The Charlie Kirk Show, OCTOBER 27TH, 2025

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show – October 27, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Andrew Colvett (with Blake Neff, Alex Marlowe, and guests)
Episode Theme: Carrying on Charlie Kirk’s legacy, American conservatism after a leader’s assassination, the evolution of the Left, US military actions abroad, 9/11 memory politics, and online conspiracy culture

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show is anchored in themes of political legacy, the consequences of Charlie Kirk's assassination, intra-conservative reflection, the state of American liberalism, and rising geopolitical tensions. Hosts Andrew Colvett, Blake Neff, and guest Alex Marlowe (Breitbart News) explore Charlie Kirk’s legacy, discuss left-wing identity politics (especially after 9/11), analyze America’s military posture towards Venezuela, and strongly address circulating conspiracy theories about Kirk’s death. The tone is somber yet combative, combining mourning, critique, and warning against divisiveness both external (the Left) and internal (right-wing conspiracism).

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1. Remembering Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

[08:16 – 14:25]

Key Points:

• Charlie’s Contribution:
  • Alex Marlowe reflects on Kirk’s outsized impact: “He really became a journalist… the show became a place where thought leaders and political leaders and spiritual leaders would come to get the message out because they knew it was one of the best places.” [09:45]
• Style & Method:
  • Emphasis on Kirk’s ability to distill arguments: “South Park tried to make fun of him for it, but… he would focus the arguments, and that's how you convince people who are completely new. You might only have an elevator pitch…” [09:45]
• Influence and Populism:
  • The show’s populist approach—assuming listeners “might only have you for 70 seconds.” [12:47]
• Show’s Continuation:
  • A commitment to carry on Kirk’s work: “They will not silence my husband’s voice…this show was such an important piece of what he did.” [13:28]

Notable Quote:

“Turning Point is not a think tank. We're a battle tank.”
— Charlie Kirk, recalled by Andrew Colvett [12:37]

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2. 9/11 Memory, Islamophobia, & the Left’s Narrative

[17:27 – 25:51]

Key Points:

• Zoran Mamdani’s Comments:
  • A Democrat (and reportedly mayoral frontrunner) emphasizes Islamophobia after 9/11, sharing a personal family anecdote (“my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.”) [20:26, 23:33]
• Host Reaction:
  • Panel cast doubt on story’s veracity and critique focus on “Muslim victimhood” rather than 9/11’s direct American victims.
  • Data cited showing favorable US opinions of Muslims actually increased after 9/11:

    “Conservative Republicans...went from 35% favorability to 64% favorability, higher than everyone except liberal Democrats.” [21:49]

• Victimhood Politics:
  • Andrew Colvett’s framing: “He’s playing the victim like a good little communist is trained to do…weaponizing grievance politics…” [25:01]

Notable Quotes:

“The thought here is not just who the victims are…but who are the bad guys? New Yorkers…somebody who looks like Daniel Penny…White New Yorkers.”
— Andrew Colvett [24:36–25:01]

“There was a certain humbleness to the fact that he…felt like people weren’t going to give him a half an hour…might only have you for 20 seconds.”
— Alex Marlowe [12:47]

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3. The Left’s Political Drift: From Democrat to Democratic Socialist

[31:10 – 38:32]

Key Points:

• Rise of Mamnani and the Left:
  • Large rallies for Zoran Mamdani, described as communist and DSA-aligned, with a broad multi-ethnic coalition and “grievance” rhetoric.
  • AOC’s speech cited as the “Oppression Olympics,” listing oppressed groups as the city’s builders but omitting unity as Americans.
• Psychology of the Left:
  • The hosts note the shift in Democrat power from moderates to AOC-types: “The powers that be within the American left have completely capitulated.” [38:32]

Notable Quotes:

“Gone is this concept that we are one people united by our patriotism...it is simply like grievance group vs. grievance group.”
— Andrew Colvett [35:14]

“They have zero self-confidence…this white guilt is so pervasive on the left.”
— Andrew Colvett [35:14]

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4. Viral Outrage: The White House Renovation "Scandal"

[43:47 – 51:37]

Key Points:

• Media and Leftist Outrage:
  • Trump’s plans to demolish part of the White House for a new ballroom draw exaggerated left-wing criticism.
  • The hosts ridicule the lack of substance, noting how the White House has always undergone renovations.
• Right-Wing Social Media Counter-Mockery:
  • Conservative Twitter users lampoon liberal angst by posting parodies.

    “I took this iconic photo of the east wing of the White House many years ago. I can't believe it's gone.” [46:35]

Notable Quotes:

“They just act like this is Watergate number three.”
— Alex Marlowe [48:35]

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5. Online Conspiracies: Defending Charlie Kirk’s Inner Circle

[58:59 – 68:40]

Key Points:

• Context:
  • Viral conspiracy theories online insinuating Charlie Kirk’s closest staff (notably Mikey, his chief of staff) were somehow involved in his murder.
• First-Person Rebuttal:
  • Blake Neff, who was with Mikey at the assassination scene, delivers a forceful factual rebuttal:

    “I was next to Mikey when it happened…. It was clear in the moment that he was profoundly freaked out…he was like a general directing a battle.” [59:59–64:21]

• Emotional Trauma and Expectations:
  • The segment stresses the unreliability of trauma memories and criticizes rushes to suspect betrayal.
• Call for Reasonableness:

  “It is...a moral responsibility to think things through seriously, to use your reason…Do you really think it is remotely reasonable or plausible that Charlie's best friends, his chief of staff, the co-hosts of his show, his wife...conspired...?” [75:43]

Notable Quotes:

“What you are doing is bad and it is gross and it is a choice. And it’s a choice you shouldn’t make.”
— Blake Neff [68:14]

“He turned into a general on a field marshaling the troops, but for a second there obviously he didn’t know what to do. And then he clicked into gear…”
— Andrew Colvett [67:39]

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6. Venezuela & Foreign Military Policy

[82:01 – 94:38]

Key Points:

• Escalation in Venezuela:
  • Discussion of US military strikes on suspected drug boats off Venezuela.
  • Significant US naval presence, rising questions about war, and regime change talk (Lindsey Graham soundbite).
• Trump’s Doctrine:
  • Trump:

    “I don’t think we’re going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we’re just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay. We’re going to kill them. You know, they’re going to be, like, dead.” [90:35]

  • Hosts reflect on Trump’s preference for targeted strikes ("peace through strength") and skepticism that there will be a ground war.
• Risks & Precedent:
  • Blake Neff highlights unintended consequences from past interventions—instability and increased drug/migration flow.
  • Alex Marlowe questions why Venezuela over Mexico, suggests Maduro might leave if "offered a big enough bag.”
• Ethical Stand:
  • Overall, the panel is anti-foreign entanglements but supportive of targeted anti-drug operations if they deter trafficking while warning against escalation.

Notable Quotes:

“If they mess that up even once and blow up innocent people, it’s catastrophically bad. Bad for America and… you shouldn’t kill innocent people.”
— Blake Neff [85:00]

“But so far [Trump]'s batting a thousand on these moves and so he's got a lot of leeway with me personally.”
— Alex Marlowe [93:49]

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7. Reality Bifurcation: The American Psyche & Media Bubbles

[98:00 – episode end]

Key Points:

• Left/Right "Two Realities":
  • Hosts examine a viral liberal TikTok where an American relocates to Canada, fearing Trump’s supposedly fascist regime—used to illustrate left-wing paranoia.
  • Skepticism about claims of right-wing violence; claim polls indicate young conservatives are the least likely to approve of political violence.
• Cosplay Victimhood:
  • Discuss performative nature of the left’s catastrophic self-conception.

    “The entire left wants to act like they're marching in Selma…they have one model in their head for how this works and that's it.” [103:00] “MSNBC brain, or TikTok brain, whatever it is. And it's very scary.”
    — Alex Marlowe [100:28]

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Notable Quotes: Quick Reference

• Charlie Kirk on activism:

  “Turning Point is not a think tank. We're a battle tank.” [12:37]

• On Mamnani and identity politics:

  “He's playing the victim like a good little communist is trained to do…weaponizing grievance politics.” [25:01]

• On White House ballroom outrage:

  “They just act like this is Watergate number three.” [48:35]

• On defending Mikey (Kirk’s Chief of Staff):

  “It is...a moral responsibility to think things through seriously, to use your reason.” [75:43]

• On the left’s victim narrative:

  “The entire left wants to act like they're marching in Selma…they have one model in their head for how this works and that's it.” [103:00]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening & Trump on Drug Smugglers: 00:25, 90:35
• Remembering Charlie Kirk: 08:16 – 14:25
• 9/11, Islamophobia, Identity Politics: 17:27 – 25:51
• Rise of Mamnani/AOC, Left’s Power Shift: 31:10 – 38:32
• White House Renovation Outrage: 43:47 – 51:37
• Debunking Kirk Assassination Conspiracies: 58:59 – 68:40
• Venezuela and US Military Policy: 82:01 – 94:38
• Reality Bifurcation/Liberal “Selma Complex”: 98:00 – End

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Tone & Takeaways

• The episode is highly critical of the American left and skeptical of mainstream and even fringe right claims when not supported by reason (as in the assassination conspiracies).
• The mood oscillates between beseeching unity within the conservative movement and aggressively targeting the modern left’s rhetorical techniques.
• The program continues the legacy of Charlie Kirk in its style: rapid arguments, mixing data with culture war anecdotes, and utilizing sharp, meme-friendly slogans.

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This summary is structured for readers seeking a comprehensive but focused overview of the main discussions, arguments, and turning points from the October 27th, 2025 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show.

Transcript

[Alex Marlowe]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Andrew Colvett]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now.

[Blake Neff]

Why not just ask for a declaration of war?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay. We're going to kill them. You know, they're going to be, like, dead.

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The Trump administration claims they can lawfully kill people simply because they are suspected of drug trafficking. Like enemy troops, instead of arresting them for prosecution. Does that match your understanding of the law?

[Blake Neff]

Well, no.

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The military has now launched 10 attacks, killing more than 40 people, against these suspected drug smuggling boats, as you just referenced. Is the United States at war with Venezuela?

[Alex Marlowe]

Mr. Secretary, I have a big portfolio. The defense is not one of them. I think you'd have to have to ask our great Secretary of War, Pete Hexif. What I can tell you is president's committed to protecting U.S. citizens from the ravages of these drugs. Honestly, I think he's going to have a lot of political support for stopping these narco terrorists. That should be what Trump says. Not blaming it on drug trafficking, which.

[Andrew Colvett]

Is a relatively minor issue compared to.

[Alex Marlowe]

Drug trafficking that comes from. I would support military strikes on drug operations in Mexico, to be honest with you. And I think a lot of Americans would as well.

[Terrence Bates]

Not war.

[Andrew Colvett]

Not war.

[Donald Trump]

Not war.

[Andrew Colvett]

Just peace. Just peace.

[Alex Marlowe]

Just peace forever.

[Andrew Colvett]

Forever. Forever. Peace forever. No.

[Alex Marlowe]

Crazy worm. The American president has said, I can point the US Military any place I want and kill anyone I want. That eventually is going to become a principle in the domestic use of the military. Yes. He is acclimating people to the notion that the military is his private army, unconstrained by law, unconstrained by norms, unconstrained by American traditions. And that, I think. I don't really think this has anything to do with drugs.

[Donald Trump]

I won't forget that day because it was one of the first wars that I got involved in. And I love doing it. I love. It's one. It's like. I shouldn't say it's a hobby because it's so much more serious than a hobby, but it's something that I'm good at and it's something I love to do. The United nations should be doing this, but they don't do it. You know, they don't do it. They turned off my teleprompter when I made a speech. I had to make a speech without a teleprompter. They're good at that. The escalator wasn't working too well. It came to a complete halt.

[Alex Marlowe]

If we reach that break the glass moment when all of our democratic institutions.

[Blake Neff]

Have failed us, right?

[Alex Marlowe]

And we are truly in a dictatorship.

[Blake Neff]

And an authoritarian regime here has completely.

[Alex Marlowe]

Shredded the Constitution, then party doesn't matter, and then elections don't matter. And then the resistance looks completely different.

[Andrew Colvett]

We saw Jimmy Kimmel's show was canceled. We don't know what the reasons are really. It's very cloudy and murky. I don't understand what's happening right now. My industry doesn't understand what's happening right now. But what they do understand is our freedom of speech is being attacked.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Where they start seizing power is they use the courts and law enforcement agencies to sort of punish their enemies, their political rivals, and protect their friends. People thought that many of these career folks in the DOJ and FBI that the presidency would change Trump. Instead, Donald Trump changed the presidency.

[Andrew Colvett]

We don't have illegal aliens. I don't know if that's from some.

[Alex Marlowe]

Sort of sci fi message that you wish about. Well, listen, the legal term for my people were slaves. You want me to use that term too?

[Zoran Mamdani]

I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.

[Alex Marlowe]

If you're gonna run for mayor of New York City, if I have any position in New York City and you're gonna talk about 911 or invoke 9 11, you darn sure better start with the people who died in the twin towers.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's what I think. And he didn't do that. And he kind of, you know, he.

[Alex Marlowe]

Made it about his experience and his aunt and all this.

[Zoran Mamdani]

The acts of desperate men looking to salvage the little power that they still had. It was in fact a reflection of Islamophobia within our political system that has become so endemic. The focus of so many is just how much bigotry they can engage in.

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[Alex Marlowe]

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[Andrew Colvett]

Buckle up.

[Alex Marlowe]

Here we go.

[Blake Neff]

All right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett. Happy Monday to radio stations across the country. Real America's voice, Salem news channel, streaming podcast. Everywhere we are, everywhere it is, we are in a lot of places. Blake Neff is back.

[John Jubilee]

I'm back.

[Blake Neff]

You couldn't keep me away forever.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, he was. We were worried he was gonna be taking a vow of chastity and. What else? Poverty.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, there's. There's like a whole bunch. I was off. I was off. A cousin of mine is joining. What was the name of it?

[Andrew Colvett]

It was.

[Blake Neff]

There's like two names for it.

[Andrew Colvett]

It was becoming a nut.

[Alex Marlowe]

That's the.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Alex Marlowe]

She.

[Blake Neff]

So she's joined. She joined an order of nuns in a convent in Naples, Italy.

[Alex Marlowe]

And so that's actually like the exact opposite of Nexium.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes. No, I. Blake told me. Blake told me and I was like, it's pretty based, Blake, that you have a family member like that. I wish I did. I actually think it's great when people feel that type of devotion that they're willing to, you know, give up so many of the, you know, the pleasures of life or the appetites of life and to devote Their life to God. I think it's. I think it's a beautiful thing. We are also joined by Alex Marlowe, editor in chief of Breitbart News. Welcome to the show, man.

[Alex Marlowe]

I'm really glad to be here. You guys have been doing such an excellent job.

[Andrew Colvett]

Thank you.

[Alex Marlowe]

Since Charlie's passing. Condolences to you guys. First time I've got to express it in person. You guys have done an amazing job, and we're all still devastated. I miss him every day and just happy to be here next to his seat for a couple of days here.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. So you're. Yeah, exactly. Alex is actually going to join us for. Not only today, but tomorrow. He made the pilgrimage out, and we were honored to have him. And. Yeah, I mean, Alex, let's start right there. I mean, you know, you were probably one of the closest people to Charlie in the news media. You were a weekly guest on the show, at least for the last five or six months before Charlie's passing, I would say. I think it was something like that. But you, for. For the life of the show, you came on regularly. You're also the editor in chief of Breitbart. You've been a friend for years. You've spoken at the events. You know, the floor is yours. I mean, you know, this is a reality Blake and I have been navigating day in, day out, looking at that chair, being in this studio, like you said, just missing our friend, missing a leader of the country, leader of the conservative movement. And yet we also understand that Charlie would want us to keep doing this, and he'd want us to keep taking care of Turning Point and keep wanting us to march forward and support Erica in any way we can. But this is, like you said, this is your first time kind of coming back to the show and being around this. And so I want to give you the opportunity just to kind of reflect on what these last six, seven weeks. What are we at now have meant to you?

[Alex Marlowe]

Well, first of all, I'm just really just so pleased with how people took so many of Charlie's lessons to heart and people making wholesale change in their life because Charlie inspired them. I think, Andrew, you and I even talked about this briefly, privately, about how we knew Charlie was huge. But it's hard to. To picture vigils in Croatia or whatever we were seeing, I mean, after he passed, which is amazing. And also, of course, the connection to his faith is so big, how just the marrying of faith and politics is so overdue in this country. The godlessness has just gotten Way out of control. That's a huge, lasting legacy of Charlie. But apropos of what we're doing today on the show, he really became a journalist, which I would never say to his face, because that would have been an insult I would never wish on my worst enemies. But it is something that the show became a place where things thought leaders and political leaders and spiritual leaders would come to get the message out because they knew it was one of the best places to get the message out. And I just found that amazing. Of all the things he was doing, he was also a force in journalism, not just activism and social media and the campus tours. And I thought about why. And of course, the work ethic comes first to mind, but how he would hone the arguments down to a point. He would just get it so that every single point, not only did he have all this knowledge and wisdom, but the knowledge part in particular. He had so much to say, and he had so much history to back it up, so much data to back it up. But then the focusing and, you know, south park tried to make fun of him for it, but it wasn't effective in making fun of him. He would focus the arguments, and that's how you convince people who are completely new. You might only have an elevator pitch, you might only have a second or two with them. Sell me this in a sentence or two. Charlie was the best I've ever seen at that, and he really had that focus. And I hope that's something that as the show continues and those of us who follow in Charlie's footsteps and worked alongside him, I hope we all challenge ourselves to get better at that so that we can make our points crisp and precise. So we've got the data, we got the info so that people can take that and use it to grow his movement and his vision.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, you know, that's a really interesting observation, especially when you think about the south park parody of Charlie and how we were watching and we're like, wow, they actually got that one pretty right. Because he had gotten some of the arguments down to such a distilled, powerful formula that even when they were parroting the arguments on campus, Charlie had succeeded in making them ubiquitous. They'd become cultural and almost memeable. Right. And that was Charlie's power of taking pretty lofty ideas. We think of politics as being lofty, and he would make it so digestible for the common man. And you come from the world of D.C. and the think tank world, and everybody wants to prove how brilliant they are, and so they make These white papers. And Charlie was like, we're not a think tank. We're a battle tank. And you saw that up close because.

[Blake Neff]

Did he ever.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Did he say that? That sounds like something he would say.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. No, like he said, Turning Point is not a think tank. We're a battle tank.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, he.

[Andrew Colvett]

At least early. Early on, he used to say that a lot. I don't know if he. If he.

[Blake Neff]

It works. It very much is true.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, it is true.

[Alex Marlowe]

There was a certain humbleness to the fact that he would feel like people weren't going to give him a half an hour and he could entertain you for half an hour and teach yourself for half an hour. You could do the three hour podcast. No, but he said, I might only have you for 70 seconds. I might only have you for 20 seconds. And there was something that I thought was really. Even though he was a big star, that was something that I thought was very populist of him, that I'm not. I'm not expecting you to give me your whole afternoon to hear all the things I've ever done. Let me make one great point to you, and I love that approach because that's something that everyone's got time to hear. One great point. You could just throw it right at him. And that was one thing I've been thinking about a lot, where he really was the best at. And I hope that people take that to heart in their personal lives.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, no, that's. That's really well said. And, yeah, we are. We do attempt to continue on his legacy. And, you know, I'll never forget when, you know, everything happened and Erica looked at me and looked at some of the people on the team and said, you know, the show. You have to keep the show going. And I was like, yes, ma'. Am. And I was like, you know, can I ask, like, what's in your heart when you say that? She said, they will not silence my husband's voice. And this show was such an important piece of what he did. And so we're honored to be here. I'm grateful to have Blake and the team, you know, when he's not traveling in Naples taking vows that he'll regret later. Not kidding. You didn't take any vows. I just. It makes me laugh in my inner monologue to think of you doing that. No, so. But, you know, we have from Mikey and Danny and Daisy and.

[Alex Marlowe]

Is Mikey here? I gotta say hi to him.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, Mikey. I think he'll be around later.

[Alex Marlowe]

That's important to me.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. No, so. No, for sure. But yeah, this is a sacred duty that we have both on the turning point side and here on the show to sort of be that drumbeat, invite the thought leaders like yourself, be the tip of the spear and get that messaging out there time and again. And I am really excited about today's show. Actually. We're coming up, we're about a minute out from a break, but I will tease it while we still have this time. And that is the real victims of 9 11. Alex. We all know that it's Zoran Mamdani's aunt, of course, that she suffered this excruciating Islamophobia in the wake of the twin towers coming down. The victims were not the 2,977 New Yorkers and folks in the first responders and the people in the Twin towers that died. No, no, those were not the real victims. It was Islamophobia that caused the real victims after 9 11. And the reason I'm excited to talk about this is because this was, and we've said it before on the show, that one of the final like big focusing like through lines of the last couple of months of Charlie's life was he was raising the alarm bell about the influx and the Islamification of the Western world. He had traveled to the uk Blake was on that trip, so was Mikey. They traveled to the uk they'd seen what it looks like when a major world city becomes so inundated and it was terrifying. I think for Charlie it really left an impression and he would not stop talking about what he saw and he was warning about it. So we have a commercial break. Five seconds more with Alex Marlowe and Blake Neff. We'll be right back at the Charlie Kirk Show.

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[Alex Marlowe]

The hardest working radio show in the business, the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Blake Neff and Alex Marlowe from Breitbart News, also hosts the Alex Marlowe Show.

[Alex Marlowe]

Thank you for that.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Zoran Mamdani]

I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because. Because she did not feel safe in her hijab.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I have a few things to say about that. So first of all, it's not confirmed, but some people have looked into his alleged aunts. And so first, he's from like a mixed background, so I think, I don't know if we have the image of it, but he appears to only have one known aunt on his paternal side, which is the one with an Islamic background. And she was living in Tanzania when 911 happened. And there are no photos of her wearing a hijab. So this may all be quite exaggerated or possibly even made up, though we must prepare ourselves. We're going to inevitably get the, you know, the swooping with actually in the, you know, Indo yoga, Ugandan community, you know, aunt is just used as a term of respect for any older woman who's like a friend. They do that crap. So what we're dealing with that. But two, it's also just fake. Like, so some people have reacted and said like, oh, boo hoo, People didn't like Muslims much after the they murdered 3,000Americans for no reason. But the more galling thing is it's just the complete opposite of reality. You can look at the polls or you could just remember it if you're old enough like me or you guys to remember all of that, that we got this giant charm offensive towards Islam. You know, Bush came out and he said this is not Islam, that Islam is a religion of peace, even though Muhammad was not a man of peace and in fact repeatedly urged his followers to take sex slaves from enemy populations. But we can talk about that later. And so you can look at Pew Research, they asked like, you know, do you have a favorable opinion of Islam after 9 11? And it went, you know, who went up the most and how positively they viewed Islam after 9 11? Conservative Republicans. They went from 35% favorability to 64% favorability, higher than everyone except liberal Democrats. Everyone went up in how they viewed them. And then of course, we went and we spent $2 trillion nation building in Afghanistan, a 100% Muslim country, and Iraq, a 95% Muslim country. We let in millions of immigrants from the Middle East. We continue to do this. I think we let in 250,000 Afghans after that war ended. And so we basically went all out to welcome tons of Muslims. Vast majority of them are not really contributing that much to America in my opinion. A huge, a very disproportionate share of Somalis, Afghans and so on are just on the dole effectively. And then this guy, this slime ball is coming out and he's guilt tripping us because he says his aunt felt uncomfortable wearing a hijab on the subway. Nothing actually happened to her. Unlike, you know, the 3,000 people who got blown up on 9 11. And, and then he's coming in and he's saying, oh, my campaign platform is we need to up taxes on white neighborhoods so we can funnel more money to like, you know, my ethnic compatriots, which is what he's running on.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's.

[Blake Neff]

He literally says tax white neighborhoods more. That is what he says. It's just so despicable.

[Alex Marlowe]

Can we hear the clip again? There's a part I want to point out which is kind of unbelievable.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, 55. Go ahead and throw it up.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.

[Andrew Colvett]

Say it again just in case they couldn't hear you.

[Alex Marlowe]

There is that huge pause there. And you think he's going to say, my aunt was on one of the planes.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Alex Marlowe]

But instead he says, no, she couldn't take the bus after because the real.

[Blake Neff]

Bad guys here and not because anything happened. No, like she felt uncomfortable. Maybe people looked at her weird.

[Alex Marlowe]

Perfect point. It's not like she also got stabbed on the bus or she got evil eye on the bus. No, no, she felt nervous about being on the bus.

[Blake Neff]

I can think of a lot of people who feel uncomfortable in various Western going on the bus or on the train. I wonder, you know, compared to 20 years ago, I feel like something happened.

[Alex Marlowe]

Okay, three white guys here.

[Andrew Colvett]

How many of us.

[Blake Neff]

That makes people less likely to do that?

[Alex Marlowe]

How many of us are taking the bus first? Like, that's our first mode of public transportation. If we go to New York, it's.

[Andrew Colvett]

Nope.

[Alex Marlowe]

I don't think I've ever taken a bus in New York. I've been there 50 times. Like, it's the. I'm taking something else other than the bus. And the thought here is not just who the victims are, which obviously he's saying the victims are the Muslims. Who are the bad guys? New Yorkers. New Yorkers are the oppressors.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's not really New Yorkers. Let's be honest. What he's really saying. It's somebody who looks like Daniel Penny. Yeah, those are the bad guys.

[Alex Marlowe]

White New Yorkers.

[Andrew Colvett]

And this, and this is the whole shtick. I actually put out a tweet this weekend. It's a. Like he's playing the victim. Like a good little communist is trained to do. Yeah. Because what they do is they're going to weaponize grievance politics in order to say the oppressors deserve all that's coming for him. And it feels like this is a mask off moment for Mom Donovan because he's so ahead in the polls now. He is, I mean, credit where it's due, he is the most talented politician running for New York City mayor. There's not a question. And he's arguably the leader of the Democrat Party nationally, I would say. And he. So he's a good, he's a good talker, he's got a good line of bs, as President Trump likes to say. And so more on this because this really is the big story. We'll be right back.

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[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real america's Voice NEWS break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is in Japan right now after touching down earlier this morning. He's set to participate in a bilateral meeting with the country's new prime tonight, our time. This will be the first meeting between President Trump and Prime Minister Sine Takeacci. The two shared a phone call over the weekend during which Takayachi told her American counterpart that strengthening the alliance between her country and the United States is her government's top priority. The commander in chief, AKA the peacemaker in chief, started his Asian tour in Malaysia, where he signed the Cambodia, Thailand peace treaty. It's one of many deals the president has brokered in order to end wars around the globe. The effects of the ongoing government shutdown are beginning to ratchet up on the American taxpayer and travelers. For instance, the Department of Agriculture says unless the government reopens between now and Saturday, there will be no food aid distribution on November 1st. Plus, the Trump administration says it won't tap into about $5 billion in contingency funds to keep the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or snap, as it's known, up and running. Democrats ask Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins to use those funds, but she won't. The program helps about one in nine Americans buy groceries. In its post announcing the end of the benefits, the USDA writes, quote, bottom line, the well has run dry at this time. There will be no benefits issued November 1st. We are approaching an inflection point for Senate dinner. And the shutdown is also causing problems at airports from coast to coast. LAX was forced into a ground stop for departing flights thanks to air traffic control staffing shortages. Air traffic controllers are working without getting paid due to the shutdown. Staffing related delays were also reported in Chicago, Washington and Newark, New Jersey over the weekend. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy warning travelers to expect flight delays and cancellations and in the coming days. Ultimately, he says it comes down to safety. We, of course, will continue to monitor the ongoing situation involving those traffic control workers and the fact that they're not getting paid and calling out sick. In the meantime, let's get you back to your regularly scheduled programming in the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Alex Marlowe]

Fact first, America First. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show.

[Andrew Colvett]

Right now is the perfect time to ask yourself some questions. This goes for you, too, Alex. I know where you live, so you, you're going to need this. You never know when Things are going to burn down. Burn down.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Zoran Mamdani]

Growing up in the shadow of 9 11, I have known what it means to live with an undercurrent of suspicion. I will always remember the disdain I faced, the way my name could immediately become Muhammad and how I could return to my city only to be asked in a double mirrored room at the airport if I had any plan of attacking it. To be Muslim in New York is to expect indignity.

[Andrew Colvett]

Hold on. Do you have it? Does Zoran Mamdani have any plan of attacking New York City? I would wager yes, he does. He's doing it politically. He's doing it through the front door. You could argue he has vowed to.

[Blake Neff]

You know, I feel like if, if a guy went on TV and said, I am going to release every single person from Rikers Island, I think that's the plot line of one of the Nolan Batman movies. Yes, but now he's just doing it. But because he's a politician, it's a.

[Andrew Colvett]

You know, it's a justice reform plan. A good line of bs. Go ahead.

[Alex Marlowe]

But that was where Mamnani was saying he's the victim of 911, yes. Not just his aunt who couldn't take the bus.

[Andrew Colvett]

I am suspicious of him, though. He's like, I've lived under this cloud of suspicion. I'm suspicious of you, proudly.

[Alex Marlowe]

And also think about what 911 is. It is the single greatest act of intentional violence against Americans in modern history. And he's the guy who said violence is a social construct. It's like when you start adding these data points and you ignore the smile with the toilet bowl teeth grin that he's got with the porcelain whites, then it is very scary. If you were reading this on paper, when he presents it, it doesn't. It seems, oh, maybe. Maybe there's something to it. But when you actually read it, if you read the quotes, these are truly insane quotes.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, we should.

[Blake Neff]

I mean, we shouldn't even. We should be clear about what it is, because as far as I know, there's no evidence Zoran is a particularly devout Muslim in any way. I don't know that we've ever seen him pray. That wasn't for a photo op, which, in fact, it'd be fun to ask him what the five pillars of Islam are. But instead, what he is is. He's a very real thing. You see, that is very common on the left. It's like a performative. He's taking the Islamic heritage and he's emphasizing it purely to emphasize that he is, like, not American and is to some extent, anti American. It's this sort of Islam as the global religious flag of being anti west, of having a grievance against the west, of wanting to, in his case, you know, plunder and bring down the West. That. That is what he adopts it as. Otherwise he's, you know, more or less just a ordinary, you know, cranky Marxist.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I, you know, it's interesting. So he has this big rally in New York. He gets aoc, he gets Bernie Sanders, he gets Kathy Hochul, and Hakeem Jeffries are now endorsing him. And so, Alex, here's the question. Is there any daylight between. Yeah, there's. There's the route. I mean, this is like 13,000 people came out for Zoran. And you just look at the. There's a bunch of Sikhs, I believe, behind him that could be Muslim. I think those are Sikhs, but I'm not sure. But, I mean, this is. This is. He is now the really color bearer.

[Alex Marlowe]

I've never seen turbines this color.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, those are. You know, maybe they're. Maybe they're celebrating.

[Alex Marlowe]

They're really hip.

[Andrew Colvett]

The Alphabet people as well. So here, here's, here's the thing though. Is there any daylight between the communists and the DSA and the Democrat Party anymore?

[Alex Marlowe]

Kathy Hochul's quote was elect Zoran and take back America. Again, you hear them say this in the context of a rally, like, yeah, people just say stuff. But if you read these quotes, these are truly threatening. They're threatening taking back America. How could this person who just got here a few years ago and is a Ugandan Muslim immigrant, how is he gonna take back New York City? That is a truly disturbing concept. And all the Democrats are falling in line cuz he's the only one with any energy. They're so low energy that they basically have no choice but to follow aoc, which is what they're following into the shutdown. I mean, the shutdown is 100% about. Chuck Schumer is afraid of AOC to keep his job. That's what it's about. There's nothing else to it. It's just that. And then you've got all of these old whites who are going to be following Mom, Donnie and aoc, and of course Bernie, the oldest of the whites who just turned 130 this week. So happy birthday to Bernie.

[Andrew Colvett]

They have zero self confidence, by the way. And they, they. This white guilt is so pervasive on the left. The American right has largely thrown this off because it is deserving of being thrown off. But the American left, if you are a white liberal, you completely endorse this concept that you have something to appease, you have amends to make with minority groups. But by the way, we're not that far away where whites are going to be just another minority. I mean, this is how radically the demographics have shifted, even in just my lifetime. But this is what's fascinating. I thought this was a really interesting look, Alex, into the psychology of the American left. Because AOC starts giving the screeching like spiel and saying, you know, this city was built by the Irish and the Italians and the Jews and the blacks and the Latinos and the native people. It is literally line by line by line, in essentially ascending order of the Oppression Olympics. This is how she does it. But she divides everybody by their ethnicity. Gone is this concept that we are one people united by our patriotism, our devotion to country, our love of neighbor. It is simply like grievance group versus grievance group. And here we go. I'll just. In AOC's own words, 96.

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[Blake Neff]

Native people standing for themselves.

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Asian Americans coming together in Queens, in Brooklyn, in the Bronx, in Manhattan, in.

[Blake Neff]

Staten island, in this country, in a.

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[Blake Neff]

I will give her credit. I will give her credit. There is a very tall building in downtown Manhattan that was only built because of Muslims.

[Alex Marlowe]

Really tall one. Might be the tallest one. No, it is good.

[Andrew Colvett]

That was good.

[Alex Marlowe]

Blake, if you do a laundry list of which grieving group built New York, Muslims are not. Are not a part of it. Which is. It's funny because you wouldn't even think of it. Like, we would never think of this. We're prepping for a show like this. Unless they bring it up and they act like the Muslims were a big part of it, which. Which they weren't. And then just going through this laundry list of. Here are all the various groups. Let's just keep subdividing, subdividing, subdividing. It's this really coastal elite, old school liberal thought, which is not modern. It's not converting anyone. There's no one who's just hearing this for the first time and thinking, that's brilliant. These are really stale ideas that she's actually putting out there. And it's interesting because he's so much more talented than she is, and she's sort of the number two biggest leader in the party, and he just leaps and bounds. More talented than she is. She sounds so shrill, so screechy. And think about how the party, both leaders of the party, live within, you know, a driver and a five iron from each other. Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. It's just a coastal elite party. They're completely out of touch with normal Americans. And if any normal American hears a clip like that, they're not going to go, oh, I trust these people. But. So they're. They're probably going to take back New York. But then what happens next? That's the interesting question.

[Andrew Colvett]

The big question, right? So. So what you're. You rightly identified the cause of the shutdown. It's. Chuck Schumer is terrified that AOC is nipping at his heels and that she has the energy of the activist base of the. Of the Democrat Party, which is now really the Communist Party. And for a moment there, after, after November 2024, we asked the question, who. What is going to happen to the Democrat Party? Are they going to moderate, go to the middle, or are they Going to go the way of aoc. Jasmine Crockett, Ilhan Omar Zoramdani. We now have the answer. Yeah, we now have the answer. The last holdouts were Kathy Hochul and Hakeem Jeffries. And what that is, is, is actually sort of the vestiges of the old school Democrat party that was like, hey, we like capitalism, but we just like more distribution of your, your money. We're going to tax you higher and distribute more because government's the answer. But we still like capitalism. And now we're getting into this new iteration where because the old dogs have basically folded like a cheap suit, there is no uniting figure like an Obama or a Clinton that can hold together a centrist coalition. And so the power, the powers that be within the American left have completely capitulated. It's almost like, it's almost like the Germans coming into France and it's just like, you know, the country just folded really quick and the France is the, the old school Democrats here and the Germans are going, wow, we took that really easy. Zo Rom and AOC are going like, wow, that was really easy to take this down.

[Blake Neff]

I think a good symbolism of that is that the Democratic primary in New York, the top candidates were Zoran and then they were running Andrew Cuomo, who is, was not the most popular Democrat before and then had to leave office in disgrace over, you know, you can debate the merits of it, but he basically was a has been Democrat who's making a comeback where the argument was like, he's corrupt but gets things done. Yeah, sort of.

[Alex Marlowe]

This is such an underrated part of the story is that the only alternative offered to us was Cuomo and so Sliwa. Okay, but did Sliwa drop the hat? Did Sliwa drop the hat? Cuz he was never gonna have a chance with that hat. Did he drop that?

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I haven't seen it.

[Alex Marlowe]

Okay, good.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, so he, I mean, listen, here's the thing. Like a lot of people, there's a big debate online. Well, you know, Cuomo has given us no excuse to, for Republicans to vote for him. Yeah, and I get that. And you know, Cernovich, who I greatly respect, is saying, you know, Sliwa shouldn't drop out, Cuomo should drop out and they should all vote for Sliwa. I don't care which direction it goes. But I mean, to be fair, this is a Democrat city. So if you're, if you actually want to have a chance to beat Zoran Mamdani, with all the like normal people coming out to the polls. It does make some sense that it should go to the Democrat. Right. And we all understand that Sliwa basically has no, no will change.

[Blake Neff]

I don't say it should make sense to go to the Democrat. I would say it is understandable, looking at the polls to say Sliwa, even if should support him, is in a distant third. And if he were to drop out and people voted Cuomo, we could avert a really nasty disaster for New York City. And you know, Charlie and I would talk about this, that we do not abandon our cities. We do not say, oh, they just deserve this, you know, every bad thing.

[Alex Marlowe]

That happens, hey man, as a resident Californian, I can say that the right absolutely does abandon parts of the country. We've been totally abandoned for many years out there. And so it's interesting for me to watch this.

[Blake Neff]

And even then, true heroism is sometimes you actually have to step up and try to save people who are not great and don't want to be saved. And maybe that's what's going to happen. And if New York does choose this, they will get what they voted for. Very infat.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's not going to be pretty. I think we're going to talk about the ballroom in the next segment, which is just a really, another really juicy topic. We will be right back at the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Blake Neff]

Don't go anywhere.

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[Alex Marlowe]

The great reset stops here.

[Andrew Colvett]

The Charlie Kirk show all right everybody, welcome back to Charlie Kirk Show. So this is an interesting question. This is for you, Alex. I think so. We're Getting these. A lot of emails at freedom. Charliekirk.com want to read some of this? So Kathy says, how does Newsom fit in? Wondering how Newsom will fit in with this new Marxist movement led by AOC and Mamdani.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, he's a political lizard. He just does whatever he thinks will get him the most attention. Just track the podcast. Okay, so he starts the podcast, and he has Charlie on. It's a sensation. It was fantastic conversation. Viral clips are going everywhere. Blows up his brand. And he sounds reasonable. 75% of the conversation. And his stock is hot. But it's not, because if he's trying to win a Democrat primary, he's going in the wrong direction.

[Andrew Colvett]

He picked the wrong direction.

[Alex Marlowe]

He picked the wrong direction. So he does Michael Savage. He does Bannon. These are interesting conversations with conservatives. And his polls are going down in a Democrat primary. People like me are going. He's so much more interesting now. Like, now I actually can find him actually listenable. No, that's not what he needs to do in order to win a Democrat primary. He needs to adopt fake accents. He needs to act like he was a poor guy even though his dad was the general counsel for spaghetti oil. Yeah, do it.

[Andrew Colvett]

We. We should. We should show that cut. 57 macaroni and cheese. Are you talking about me? Yo, YG. YG, man. Every day.

[Alex Marlowe]

Every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just, like, fraying, man. And it just saved me, and it got me into college.

[Andrew Colvett]

So she's hustling. Well, it turns out if you throw up this image, there's an image of him and his buddies. Looks like it's pride from the 80s. And it says, Gavin Newsom with Paul Mohan, Andrew Getty, and Bill Getty posing for a Children of the Rich feature that ran in the San Francisco Chronicle because it was December 12, 1991. So children of the Rich. And he's just here. Gavin's just like, ah, you know, man, I just had to hustle. Had to go get some, shoot some hoops, man.

[Alex Marlowe]

Comes from Getty Oil Money. It's one of the richest companies in the history of the country. And his dad was a top attorney for it. And everyone knew. Knows this about him because he's a.

[Andrew Colvett]

Known commodity, owns a winery. He eats at French Laundry. Here he is just trying to be.

[Alex Marlowe]

He doesn't care because he's not a true leader. And that's what's interesting. They have a huge dearth of leaders in their party.

[Andrew Colvett]

There is no Bill Clinton or Obama welcoming back national radio. One second. All right, Blake, while you were gone, Trump destroyed a historical monument at the White House.

[Blake Neff]

I was so, yeah, I was out for two weeks, basically, and I come back to discover the number one issue in America, apparently, is Trump redecorating the White House. Like, people are freaking out so, so much about this. You'd think the East Wing of the White House, like, Democrats are freaking out so bad. You'd think the East Wing of the White White House was like a five time felon who, you know, died or something, because it's just apocalyptic. I've been seeing people are tweeting, they clearly think that he destroyed half of the actual White House. There was a tweet or someone was just in one of the rooms of the normal White House. My wife and I in the East Wing can't believe it's gone. And then there was some article that was like, they were saying the East Wing has been called the heart of America. I have lived in America for 35 years, and I have never once in my life heard the East Wing called anything at all other than the less famous wing of the White House.

[Andrew Colvett]

It literally was built after World War II, which, by the way, it was to cover up a World War II bunker that had been built there for safety during the war. And it was, you know, which is the era from, like, arguably between the 60s and 70s and the 50s, though, where most of the terrible architecture in the United States. You know, it's not even about that. It's not even about that.

[Blake Neff]

It's just, it's, it's not the White House, it's not the West Wing, it's not the Eisenhower building, and it's also not good enough. You see all this all over. They're saying, why? Yeah, like, we have to have, we have to set up, you know, tents and porta potties to have diplomatic dinners because we don't have a big enough facility to do it in the United States of America.

[Alex Marlowe]

Isn't this the point? There's so many points to be made, and we should make all of them. But isn't the point that this is a new, newish part of the building and it was built for staffers after World War II, and we're going to replace it by the greatest builder to ever be president, regardless of what you think of his politics? A guy who's so qualified to do this, it's ridiculous. And he's gonna build a ballroom so that we can host state dinners, we can host leaders from all around the world, the big shots of the all big shots can come and congregate this building, and not just for his presidency, for future presidencies. And this is the thing that kind of blows my mind with Democrats is I think they missed a concession layup here. I think they come in, they have one of these mom dummy rallies with AOC and Schumer and, and they come in and they say, thank you for building us a new ballroom, Trump. We are going to win back the White House. We're never going to give it back. And we're going to throw party after party in the ballroom. You built us. Thanks a lot. But they're not that funny. They don't have any vibes anymore. They just act like this is Watergate number three.

[Andrew Colvett]

So I think that's really funny and they should have done that. But they're not as smart as you, Alex. So. But this is, this is another viral trend that's going on. People mocking the left, faux outrage about the, the east wing of the White House. So this is from Tom Coleccio said, my wife and I in the east wing. I can't believe it is gone. And so throw this image up. I think we should have the chef. Yeah, it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so. Yeah, there it is. It's. It's one. Okay, yeah, you've got it up there. So. And then what happens is the right online just starts trolling it. So this is Tony Kennett. I'll never forget watching the Medal of Honor ceremony for Commander Miranda Keys in the east wing. Now because of Trump, it is gone forever. And then there's Chef Gruel got in, or Jack actually got a good one. His favorite Pizza Hut. He goes, I took this iconic photo of the east wing of the White House many years ago. I can't believe it's gone. No kings. And then Chef Gruel says this. What is this from? What do you. What is this? I don't know. I took this iconic vote, iconic vote of the east wing of the White House many years ago. I can't believe it's gone. No kings. So everybody's just trolling. And actually what Trump wants to build, put this B roll up of this beautiful new ballroom. And here's what we can't forget, that this is just makes every sense in the world practically and pragmatically. Presidents have been wanting an event space for these diplomatic dinners, these fine dining experiences at the White House for years. Instead, they've spent millions of dollars on tents, porta potties, all this stuff, if Trump goes off campus somewhere else, that's millions of dollars annually just in expenses for security and movement and transportation. Secret Service has to plan this out in advance. Well, I mean, we're talking thousands of people get mobilized anytime there's a movement of the president.

[Blake Neff]

You know, another great thing about this that makes this funnier, there's been this whole movement on the left people may or may not have heard of. They call it abundance. It's like Ezra Klein. It's sort of the old Obama people where they see, oh wow, you know, America's not building anything anymore. We can't get infrastructure, we can't get trains, we can't get roads, can't get buildings. And so they're trying to say like the left, the center left, we can do this. They call it abundance. And their idea is we'll get rid of regulations and zoning and we'll be able to build stuff again. And so Trump is basically doing the most abundance coded thing possible. He says, we need this thing, we're going to build it and we're going to do it fast. We're just going to, bam, building's gone. We're gonna get this new building up within a year or two, you know, unfathomably quickly. For America, where it takes 18 years to do anything and they're losing their abs, they're absolutely losing their minds.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, but here's the other thing that's funny is like the left I thought was all about progress. Out with the old, in with the new. But here all of a sudden, they're, they're clutching their pearls. They're so upset that something 50, 60, 70 years old is, has now been renovated.

[Alex Marlowe]

We're doing a big history on this today. Breitbart News and so people can see all the photos. Every renovation is met with criticism. It's usually political, but the White House has never been frozen in time. It's always been. They've always complained about wasting money. We're not wasting money.

[Andrew Colvett]

See you an hour or two. We'll be right back.

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[Terrence Bates]

Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break. Thanks so much for being here with us. CDC data shows about half of Americans are under doctor's orders to reduce their salt intake. But John Jubilee from Energized Health says salt isn't something to be afraid of. In fact, he believes it's essential for good health. Here's a testimony from one of his clients.

[Alex Marlowe]

In November, I turned 82. I looked in the mirror trying on.

[Blake Neff]

Clothes to go out.

[Andrew Colvett]

Couldn't zip a thing. I said something has to be done.

[Alex Marlowe]

I have tried every diet, bought every pill available. And so I prayed about it. And the next day I saw you on Real America's Voice.

[Andrew Colvett]

And I saw you again.

[Alex Marlowe]

And I saw you again and I looked you up.

[Andrew Colvett]

Better Business Bureau, fantastic grades. I am so thrilled to have found this.

[Terrence Bates]

Well, John, I keep seeing you week in and week out and I ain't lost a pound yet. But that's on me. That's not on you. Let's talk about this salt thing. I have to say I'm giving you the side eye because my doctors have often said, cut the salt, it will bring down your blood pressure. It's conventional wisdom. But you say there's some myths associated with salt.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah. Terrence, we've been sharing, you know, we've been crying this from the housetops since 1997, almost 30 years. We've been trying to tell people, you know, that Jesus said, you are the salt of the earth. Salt is a good thing, it's not a bad thing. Salt is God's natural electrolyte. And so, so I can tell every person that over the last 28 years, we've had so many people get off their high blood pressure medication. That's right. You heard me. Part of our protocol is to have people specifically take salt at specific times of the day in certain amounts. And they are absolutely coming off all their high blood pressure medication. Their high blood pressure naturally goes away and it comes down into the level that it's supposed to be so absolutely, unequivocally, I can tell you that, again, this is thousands of people, you know, just like you that are watching me. They thought the same thing. They said, you got to be kidding me. Now, here's the beautiful part, Terrence. Then when they go back to their doctor and they've been on high blood pressure medication for 20 years, and the doctor says, oh, my gosh, your blood pressure is perfect. I'm going to take you off your meds. What did you do? And imagine the doctors are like, what? What you did. The cellular health protocol, and part of it was taking salt. I need to find out about this. And, Terrence, we've had hundreds of doctors over the last 27 years become our clients and become our advocates, because they're not learning that in med school.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah, absolutely. Like, I'm sorry. I do trust you. We are friends. But it's such a far reach based on all the traditional medicine, if you will. And unfortunately, I've had my share. But, you know, that's such a basic, fundamental part, particularly at this age. You know, doctors always tell you, no salt. So to add salt back. Give me some scientific context, if you can.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah, well, listen, it's this simple, and I like to make things simple. Albert Einstein said, if you can't explain it to a second grader easily, you don't understand it. And our human bodies are what's supposed to be inside us. Terence is very similar to the exact makeup of the ocean. Well, have you ever accidentally swallowed a little bit of ocean water? It's very salty. It's very salty. Now, to give some, you know, to give a little bit of, I guess, grace, you know, to the old medical ways of what they taught people. Now, when people are dehydrated, if they're dehydrated, if they don't have the hydration level in their body they're supposed to have, then salt can. Salt can raise your blood pressure if you don't have your healthy level of hydration. So that's where that began to be created, is as people went from what I call being a beautiful grape, which, you know, we want to be healthy grapes, to raisins when they shriveled up Terence, and they added the salt when they were a shriveled up raisin. That's what can spike blood pressure. But we help people to be the healthy grape.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right.

[Terrence Bates]

The information is there at the bottom of your screen if you want more. I'm fascinated. I'm sure you are as well. Energized health.com, log on now.

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[Andrew Colvett]

All right, welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Blake Neff and Alex Marlowe. Alex Marlowe, of course, of Breitbart News and also host to the Alex Marlow show which we are going to have you tell us more about Alex. But first I want, we got to do a little, gotta do a little addressing of a video that went viral this, this weekend. And it's a video of Charlie's chief of staff. We made the decision, we wanted to address this head on because, you know, candidly, there's so much intrigue and I'm gonna do a generous thing. The intrigue is because people care about Charlie. Okay, so that part I understand.

[Blake Neff]

You're more generous than I'd be.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes, and that's fine. And I am going to give you.

[Terrence Bates]

The.

[Andrew Colvett]

Floor here now, Blake, because you were there and you actually interact with Mikey. You were with Mikey. You, you left the scene and then re connected with Mikey. So explain what the video is.

[Blake Neff]

All right, I'm not gonna set the scene. I'm not going to wallow in it at length. But people have, it's gone viral and people have asked us to address it and we're going to do so briefly. The video, without going way into it is by, I can't even remember the guy's name. Someone made a video that is attacking Mikey, Charlie's friend, Charlie's chief of staff, a guy all of us know, a guy who we've seen on the show here the last few weeks, they are attacking him, claiming based on a few seconds of clips, that he allegedly has, like, a nonchalant or calm reaction to Charlie's murder. And I'm just going to be blunt about this. This is a extremely disgusting attack. And I can speak to that because I was there when it happened, and I was next to Mikey when it happened. And what I can say is, again, I can't say every single thing that happened, but I want to talk about this specific, narrow thing that the shooting occurs. I am next to Mikey. Both of us hear a loud crack. We both turn, we both see Charlie, who has been shot. Both of us, I think, at about the same time, realize that that means there is a shooter who is on the scene. And, you know, you just hear the crack. So you don't know. Did it come from far away? Did it come from close? Is there a mass shooter unfolding right now? So I and him both had the reaction of, let's get out of here before we are both shot. That is not us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team. They all leapt immediately into action, and they got Charlie out of there, which was what their job was to do. My job was not to get in the way and screw this up because, like, I had to be a hero. That was not my job. I remember even running past both of us, going past the, you know, the SUV that we came in on, and me thinking, should I get in that car? And then thinking, no, that's a really stupid thing to do. And then I kept going. So I was not with Mikey or I don't remember being with him. I think I was ahead of him as we left. And then we get out and I run for. Must have. Can't have been more than 15 or 20 seconds. And then I realized there hasn't been another shot. So the shooter has likely been detained or stopped or something. Not in immediate danger. I pause, I look around me, and I see Mikey, and I see Mikey there. And I'll never. Truthfully, I will never forget what I saw, because I've seen Mikey almost every day for the past two years. I know his personality very well. He's a very bubbly guy. He's a very happy guy almost all of the time. And I'll never forget what I saw, because it was clear in the moment that he was profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before. And you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out. And Then I think he literally said to me, I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was. And then he was looking around, and then he says, I need to call Erica. And then he takes his phone and he begins calling Erica. And I don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he did that. This. You know, your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring. I remember he calls Erica.

[Andrew Colvett]

I.

[Blake Neff]

Around the same time, I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there's been a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me. I've got to go. And I remember that call, and around the time I put that phone away. And then he immediately calls his dad. He calls Robin McCoy and he says, dad, someone's shot Charlie. You need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now. And that's what he told him. And I guess it just. It's very disgusting for me as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed and then step up in the moment, because after that was called, that call was over. I saw Mikey, like, get total mastery of himself that he realized he had to step up in this situation. And he. From that point, he was like. He was like a general directing a battle where he was, you know, grabbing people and saying, okay, we need to get to the hospital and we need to do these things, and you guys need to wait here. I need to get in here to get information so that I can get it. To get it to Erica. And when we. When we learned he was dead, it was. He came out and he told us. And then he says. And he says, now none of you can say anything that you've heard because it is. Erica is not going to hear about this from anyone except me.

[Alex Marlowe]

Can I ask a question? I just been thrown into this 10 minutes ago. But the. There's a suggestion online that Mikey, Charlie's chief of staff, one of the most sincere people you'd ever meet, brilliant, Christian, kind, everyone who's he ever met in his entire life, couldn't hurt a fly. Was part of a conspiracy to murder Charlie. That's what's going on.

[Blake Neff]

It's vile. It's. It's utterly vile.

[Alex Marlowe]

Who would do this? What type of individual? Just to create content, do we think? Or is there some. What's the ulterior. I don't know.

[Blake Neff]

I think a lot of this mindset just sort of fuels itself It's. It's sort of addictive in the same way a lot of social media stuff is addictive or in the way, like, honestly, something like pornography is addictive or something like they get really. They. They almost get. They get a high off of, like, the idea of, like, that they're doing something that's daring or out there.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. And I just want to. I want to make one other point, though, and this is actually to your point, you saw Mikey do heroic things that day. I saw Mikey do heroic things. I was not on site, but I immediately flew to Utah. We got a plane. And it's not something that I'm used to, but it was like my wife went with me. We went straight over. I knew I needed to be with Erica and the team immediately just because, you know, I just knew. But that moment when I got the news, I was so shell shocked, I was not even there. But I was immediately traumatized. My brain fries like an egg. I can't see straight. I can't think straight. All I knew is that, like, what's happening? My wife came in, she, like, hugged me. We started crying together. And I can't even remember those moments very clearly. I wasn't even there. Mikey was two seconds.

[Blake Neff]

Mike has talked about that.

[Andrew Colvett]

And I asked him, I was like, do you even remember the moments after? He's like, I can't. I can't even really remember. I know I called Erica. I know I called my wife. I know I called my dad. I can't even really remember the steps I took. I can't. But here's the last thing I want to make a point of. And Charlie, because Charlie had given me similar instructions along the years, said, if anything ever happens to me, you call Erica. That is your. He drilled that into Mikey's brain so that when this moment of trauma happened, that he turned around and he knew how to do it. And by the way, I just. Last thing, because this is part of the video allegations here, is that they think they're alleging that he was on the phone immediately. He was not. He was taking social videos which he would send to our group chat, which we would then put on Charlie's social. Why the event was happening so you could see, like, the crowd come in or his interactions. And we were only two questions into this event. So he was still getting it out to all the chats he needed to do, which he did at every event. He turns around and it was so blaringly loud. I'm told you would know this better than up. This is What I'm told it was so blaringly loud and he was so shell shocked he put his fingers in his ear but his phone was still in his hand. He walks away and he's not even, not even walk.

[Blake Neff]

I want it because people are talking about that. The way it was is we had a cordoned off area with you know, rates so you could had controlled access. All the people when this happens they all get the idea we should leave before we are shot. And so there's a little narrow gap that I think people, it's not really walking, it's that everyone has to slow up to get through this little narrow choke point to get out of the area.

[Andrew Colvett]

And anyways, well, the point is he walks briskly. It does. I don't even care if he's walking, running, whatever, because again the most traumatic thing you could imagine had just happened to him. My brain fried. I cannot imagine what was going through your guys head. Being on the scene and seeing it and knowing again the security guys are jumping in. He turns and he like I'm telling you, Mikey, that day turned into a general on a field marshaling the troops, going a bit but like for a second there obviously he didn't know what to do. And then he clicked into gear eventually. It was amazing.

[Blake Neff]

Mikey was a heroic figure on that day. And I just, I really want anyone who finds like these narratives attacking him to be remotely credible. To really, really stop and think about what you are doing. Because what you are doing is bad and it is gross and it is a choice. And it's a choice you shouldn't make.

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[Alex Marlowe]

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[Andrew Colvett]

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[Alex Marlowe]

Thank you. Yeah, yeah. We're colleagues in the Salem Podcast Network. So wherever you get your podcast, you can get at YouTube, Rumble, Apple, Spotify, wherever you prefer. And it's a daily new show. I also do some great interviews. I think we did a deep dive with Scott Pressler last week, Andy Ngo, Sandra Sheehy. It's a great place to break news, but also I give you what we're thinking about in the Breitbart newsroom every day. So we've been the leaders on the anti establishment media for the last 15 plus years and as strong as ever, as powerful as ever. And it's just a great place for a daily news digest. Some great conversations, really efficient, don't waste anyone's time. We have a good time.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, you know, before we get to this Venezuelan topic, I do think it's interesting that you, you know, you were hired by Andrew Breitbart.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

He was young and vibrant and full of verve and life and he was a leader. And then he died.

[Alex Marlowe]

By the way, no one on Twitter accused me of killing him, which is nice because.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Well, I mean, if you want to chime in on that because it's completely.

[Alex Marlowe]

Outrageous and it's sad that there's such a market for this content because it's completely counterproductive to our shared goals of defeating the left is going after Mikey. It's just wild.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I know. And it's funny. It occurred to me while we were talking about that it's like, you know, the political assassination and the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. But it was an assassination. It was the highest profile political assassination since the 60s in this country. And what's really sad is that it's followed on the footsteps of it are the attempts by some, not by all. I don't want to like overblow this, by the way, I think the amount of love and the outpouring of support for the show, for Turning Point, for Erica, for all of us that have been around us, has been tremendous, really. Like, you've seen the most beautiful part of humanity. But we had a political assassination. He happened to be one of my best friends, guy we spent every day with. And so the sad part is that that assassination has led to the character assassination of some of the people closest to Charlie that loved him most, that he hand selected in these roles because he trusted them. And again, I try, like. And again, I try and be generous, Blake, because you're very generous. I do know that, like, we live in a certain era where we've learned to distrust the authorities. And by the way, a lot of these authorities have earned our distrust, whether it be Covid or whatever, and they do. Charlie was such a monumental figure, and this was such a public moment and such a tragedy that I know that essentially the world is grieving still and the movement is grieving still, and people want answers and they want to get to the bottom of it. And so I'm just trying to give grace for people. And I. And I disagree. Listen, your voice is just important as mine, but there is, like, a combination here of understanding that people. There is the. The click chasers and the cloud chasers. I get that. But there are people and they message me that have legitimate questions and they have legitimate things. This is not one of them.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, you. What I want to emphasize is, like, it is. We have a moral. You have a moral responsibility to think things through seriously, to use your reason. And a lot of really wild theorizing is a product of people being lazy in their thinking. And it's very easy to be lazy about things where, you know, maybe it's not your own. Well, being on the line, where you're not really having to commit anything. And you'll see that a lot. Where people who have normal lives and can make normal decisions in their own life will believe truly wild things about stuff that's far away from them. And I would encourage people who are buying to this truly deranged and hurtful stuff to think about that, to reasonably think. Do you really think it is remotely reasonable or plausible that Charlie's best friends, his chief of staff, the co hosts of his show, his wife, people on his, like, people who he spent years with, conspired in a vast thing to have him assassinated for, you know, underpants gnomes, like, weird reasoning. Like, there's. There's no plausible reason for any of this. And the answer is, of course, no. None of that would make sense. And that's obvious the moment you start to think about it.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, well, and, but here's the thing. We were there. We were at least I wasn't there the day but when it happened. But I've been around everything that's happened since. And so we have seen it up close and personal, just seen how traumatized everybody is. And we've, we've been the ones in the, in the embracing, in these hugs filled with tears and everybody's grieving and everybody's shell shocked. And so you see it up close and so you don't have those. But the Internet didn't see any.

[Blake Neff]

And I would just ask people to remember that because of this, even if they're just, you know, just asking questions. There are a lot of like unwell people out there who respond to this sort of thing by sending incredibly hurtful emails or showing up outside people's homes doing incredibly gross behavior. And some of those, some of those people are, are probably just generally unwell. But you have to remember unwell people are greatly influenced by the things they hear around them.

[Alex Marlowe]

They're also running interference.

[Blake Neff]

People up.

[Alex Marlowe]

They're running interference for the antifa furries too, by the way. Like they really are.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, exactly.

[Alex Marlowe]

Are they, are they getting paid by big furry?

[Andrew Colvett]

Big furry. It's an epidemic. We'll be right back.

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[Terrence Bates]

Terrance Bates here with you, your real America's voice. News break. Thanks so much for being here with us. The effects of the ongoing government shutdown are beginning to ratchet up on the American taxpayer and travelers. For instance, the Department of Agriculture says unless the government reopens between now and Saturday, there will be no food aid distribution on November 1st. Plus, the Trump administration says it won't tap into about $5 billion in contingency funds in order to keep the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP as its known, up and running. Democrats asked Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins to use those funds, but no dice. The program helps about one in nine Americans buy groceries. In its post announcing the end of the benefits, the USDA writes, quote, bottom line, the well is run dry at this time. There will be no benefits issued November 1st. We are approaching an inflection point for Senate Democrats. In the meantime, the shutdown is also causing problems at airports from coastal coast. LAX was forced into a ground stop for departing flights thanks to air traffic control staffing shortages. Air traffic controllers are working without getting paid due to the shutdown. Staffing related delays were also reported in Chicago, Washington and Newark, New Jersey over the weekend. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy is warning travelers to expect flight delays and cancellations throughout the coming days. Ultimately, though, he says this comes down to safety.

[Blake Neff]

My job is to keep the airspace safe. And so if I don't feel like I have enough controllers or enough controllers that are focused, we will slow down traffic, we will stop traffic.

[Alex Marlowe]

And that's why you see the delays in the system.

[Blake Neff]

And the job number one is again.

[Alex Marlowe]

Get people to where they're going safely.

[Blake Neff]

And if it's not on time, well, call the Democrats. Call Chuck Schumer. If you're frustrated that you have a staffing shortage and you're flight's three hours delayed or your flight is canceled, call Chuck, call Senate Democrats, because this is.

[Terrence Bates]

The reason why right now the government shutdown is the second longest in history. This week will get us into about 30 days without having the government funded. It could very well stretch into becoming the very longest government shutdown on record. We, of course, will continue to cover it for you right here on Real america's Voice. For now, let's get you back to the Charlie Kirk show and your regularly scheduled programming.

[Alex Marlowe]

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[Andrew Colvett]

All right. Welcome back to welcome back to THE Charlie Kirk show. I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Alex Marlowe in studio all day today and all day tomorrow. Thank you, my friend.

[Alex Marlowe]

Thank you for having me.

[Andrew Colvett]

Great to have you.

[Alex Marlowe]

You guys are really doing fantastic work to honor my friend. I just can't tell you how much Charlie meant to me in my life. My wife and I still talk about. We just wish he was here. I know, and I know you guys must be feeling that even more than we are.

[Andrew Colvett]

And it's just, it's, it's so true. But having our friends here with us and especially when we're able to have you guys in studio, it genuinely means a lot to us. So thank you for joining us. I really quickly want to tell you about Patriot Mobile. I realize there's a lot of options for you in your cell phone service and guess what? New ones keep popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines fighting for our God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional, exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the main networks. Or you can get two on one phone, which is what I do. I'm never without service. It's fantastic. So don't just take my word for it. Ask the hundreds of thousands of Americans who've made the switch and are now supporting causes they believe in just by having their cell phone service. Switching is easy. Activate in minutes from the comfort of your own home. Keep your phone, keep your number or upgrade your phone. You can do that too. Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you. Call 972 Patriot today. That's 972 Patriot. Or go to patriotmobile.com Charlie. Use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com Charlie promo code Charlie for a free month of service. All right, we gotta get to this. So we are. This is. You know, I would say, Blake, you are potentially the most passionate about this. I personally do not believe we're about to go to war with Venezuela. You maybe disagree, but we are bombing a lot of these boats and this is. We'll just let Kristen Welker give us the update. This is clip 62. Go ahead and play that.

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The military has now launched 10 attacks killing more than 40 people against these suspected drug smuggling boats as you just referenced. Is the United States at war with Venezuela?

[Alex Marlowe]

Mr. Secretary, I have a big portfolio. The defense is not one of them. I think you'd have to have to ask our great Secretary of War, Pete Hexif. What I can tell you is President's committed to protecting US citizens from the RAVAGES of these drugs.

[Andrew Colvett]

So now, to be fair to you, Blake, here's, here's Lindsey Graham.

[Alex Marlowe]

Can I just say quickly, it's just, I mean, how unbelievable is Scott Besson? I mean, you could tell he's just a professor. He, he's such a pro at talking to idiots. It's the, this is the dumbest question I've ever heard. I have no business answering it. Let me give you a perfectly crisp answer and treat you as if you're a respectable person, which you're not. It's just such a. I love how.

[Blake Neff]

She'S the money guy.

[Andrew Colvett]

Killing more than 40 people. No, they're called narco terrorists.

[Blake Neff]

He did run on taking out drug deals.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, check this out. So, but here, here to give you a little credence to the argument here, this is Lindsey Graham talking about regime change in Venezuela. Cut 78.

[Alex Marlowe]

It is time for Maduro to go.

[Blake Neff]

So I hope Maduro would leave peacefully.

[Alex Marlowe]

But I don't think he's going to.

[Blake Neff]

Stay around much longer now. So, but to give some context to this, because it has been building up for a while. So, yes, we're doing those airstrikes on, I guess I. On drug boats, international waters, alleged drug boats. And, you know, we've, you know, I remember, you know, we've expressed some concern about that. Just in the sense you have to acknowledge if they mess that up even once and blow up innocent people, it's catastrophically bad. Bad for America and, you know, bad just objectively, morally, you shouldn't kill innocent people. But we're all, there are signs we're building up to this. So this week, one of our warships, the USS Gravely, which is a guided missile destroyer, it's in Trinidad and Tobago. That is a small Caribbean island country. If you look at it on a map, it's 5 to 10 miles off the coast of Venezuela right next to it.

[Andrew Colvett]

Throw up the map, you can see how close it is.

[Blake Neff]

It is just right next door. So it's like sending troops to Kuwait before Iraq or something like that. We've also, and this is the really big one is we've deployed the USS Gerald Ford, one of our carriers, with its strike group. So a full carrier strike group. The guys we normally have in the Persian Gulf off the coast of China, we've deployed that carrier group to the Caribbean. And if we're sending a carrier strike group to the Caribbean, there's basically only one thing it could be for, which is potential military action against basically either Venezuela or Cuba. And it doesn't seem like we're about to do anything to Cuba. All of our gestures have been against Venezuela. Now, the justification for that, the Trump administration obviously has. We've labeled their government illegitimate. It is an illegitimate government. Totally fake elections. They're authoritarian, bad in a million different ways. They've also argued that it's the source of a lot of the fentanyl and other drugs that come into the United States. And geopolitically, it's a regime that has cozied up to. To China, to Russia, to Iran. It has built relationships with them hostile to us, and it has a ton of oil. And, you know, Trump does like to just openly talk about seizing, you know. Yeah. So it does seem like we are moving in that direction. And I will say, you know, I don't have full access to whatever intelligence they have, but much like it was with Iran, where we talked about it, and we were very fortunate, the Iran one worked out Charlie. Charlie's position, and I think our position shared is America is a country we need to be focused on ourselves. We have a lot of problems. We've had. We've basically secured the border, but now we have that big task of getting the 10, 15, 20 million people illegally here out. We have a lot of economic issues to fix because we were so addicted to illegal or just excessive migration.

[Andrew Colvett]

We need robotics.

[Blake Neff]

We have infrastructure issues. We have social issues. We have crime issues. We have a lot of problems. And repeatedly in, you know, the past 30 years, America has gone on foreign military ventures, and I don't know that a single one of them in the long run, seemed like a great idea. You know, Afghanistan. Afghanistan looked great a month later, but it was a disaster 20 years later. Iraq looked super easy in the first month, turned into a big mess. Libya looked super easy the first month. We overthrew that government, and what we got was a mess afterwards. So could we overthrow Maduro? I imagine we could overthrow Maduro in 10 minutes, but what happens afterwards? Do we end up having 2 million Venezuelans come into America as refugees? Do we end up having to run this country? So I understand our administration has, you know, a lot of valuable goals, including stopping all the drug smuggling. But we have to make sure we don't sleepwalk into a war because we think it'll be really easy. I think so.

[Alex Marlowe]

A few data points for me. First of all, if Lindsey Graham is popping off, that's just cable news content. That's punditry. That doesn't. That doesn't really matter. I know we always. You can't. He is a US Senator. He's got power and he hangs out in Mar a Lago a lot, but he doesn't count, I don't think. And I don't think that there's a lot of stuff that there's a lot of data points that suggest we're not anywhere close to this. First of all, why would we prioritize taking out Venezuela over the Mexican cartels if we're going to do something that dramatic in Latin America? I don't know if that would be the first pick, but you would think that we would have troops in Gitmo, Panama, Ecuador. Ecuador would love it if we were there because they have a huge gang problem, so they would love to see a big American deployment there. We're not seeing anything like that. But overall, I think the point that would be really interesting if we were committed to taking out Maduro, will we just pay him? Because he seems like he would probably take the bag and leave if we were really determined. That doesn't solve your problem, Blake, which is reasonable. Like, then, then do we have to rebuild Venezuela and what does that look like? That sounds like a big pain in the butt, but it does. Like, there is a bag big enough to get Maduro to.

[Andrew Colvett]

I totally agree. He would take the payday. Let's go ahead. This is. Maduro is pleading no crazy war. No career Guerra. Cut 61.

[Terrence Bates]

Not war.

[Andrew Colvett]

Not war.

[Donald Trump]

Not war.

[Andrew Colvett]

Just peace. Just peace.

[Alex Marlowe]

Just peace forever.

[Andrew Colvett]

Forever. Forever. Peace forever. No crazy war. No crazy war.

[Blake Neff]

I thought that was all in English.

[Andrew Colvett]

So, so then. And then Trump is asked about this.

[Blake Neff]

This.

[Andrew Colvett]

Let's go ahead and play. Cut 80.

[Blake Neff]

Why not just ask for a declaration of war?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay. We're going to kill them. You know, they're going to be like dead.

[Andrew Colvett]

So, okay, this is my. You were actually the one that turned me on to this clip, Alex. So this is, this is my theory why this is not going to lead to full out war. Now, I'm not saying Maduro won't get displaced. Maybe it's a bag of money, maybe it's a threat, whatever. He kind of goes into exile. The, you know, and by the way, playing in the back of my head is the fact that the opposition leader in Venezuela just dedicated her Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

So think about that as you're, as you're doing the calculus in your head. But Trump has A fixation on killing drug dealers. He goes over to Asia or Singapore and they treat drugs, drug crimes much more strictly.

[Blake Neff]

They go to.

[Andrew Colvett]

He goes to Japan. Japan treats drug crimes much more strictly. Right, so here's the thing. Trump wants to emulate those countries that he looks up to and believes that they treat drug dealers appropriately because he sees what's happening with fentanyl, where it kills hundreds of thousands of Americans over the last couple of years, and he wants that kind of country. He wants to say, if you're caught dealing deadly drugs to a young person, we're going to kill you dead. We're going to put you into prison for a lot longer. Because here's the thing, Trump believes that our, our drug, the way we prosecute drug offenses in this country is far too lenient. So he thinks, if I can just kill him in international waters, I never have to deal with them. And by the way, it sends a strong deterrent message to the narco traffickers that this is not going to be tolerated anymore. And I think they're just putting resources in the region to better be able to detect smuggling and to kill those who end up doing it. Now, the question is then raised. Alex, you brought it up. Why not focus on Mexico? I think it's a totally valid thing and I think we are in a bit of a rock and a hard place because Mexico is paying us lip service that they are getting serious about cracking down on drugs. So to invade and launch an attack in Mexico is much more politically fraught.

[Alex Marlowe]

Alex, you know who's a real villain here? John Bolton. John Bolton was tasked with the Venezuela policy in the first Trump administration and he totally blew it. So if he could have just done his job instead of just collecting data to write tell all books to try to sabotage Trump. Yeah, exactly. Scrolling away in his journal, he sat there with his cookie dough.

[Andrew Colvett]

We never talk about this.

[Alex Marlowe]

I gotta say, Maduro, I think, went to the same ToastMasters school as AOC. It felt like the same cadence for the speech. No, but overall, it's just. Do you believe Trump's peace through strength approach is credible? Where he does these sporadic bombings, he picks targets. Where it's sort of like an 8020 is going to have approval of. Well, do you really mind if he bombs a few drug dealers and most people are not going to, and trying to kind of get people on that footing, that's how he's always operated. For me, he's been fully credible on this because we now have five years of foreign policy for him and he's hit it out of the park every time. But I understand if you're just really focus solely on we got to keep America out of foreign entanglements. You should be concerned every time. That's a valid voice. But so far he's batting a thousand on these moves and so he's got a lot of leeway with me personally.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I tend to agree. Like obviously I do not want a ground invasion in Venezuela. Okay. But There are about 48 different options between boots on the ground, ground invasion and Maduro no longer being in power. And a really important country, actually, and a country that has forced a lot of immigration into like states like Florida and New York. I mean there's a ton of Venezuelans in there. And not only that, but regionally you.

[Blake Neff]

Have to be, you have to think about the flip side of it, which is are we going to war because there's just 2 million Venezuelans in Florida and they're a lobby group.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, no, no. I'm just saying we don't have to go to war in order for something good to come out of this. But namely killing drug traffickers is probably, you know, like you said, probably an 8020 issue. Okay. But obviously we are anti foreign entanglements. I just want to say that. Anti foreign entanglements. But this is our hemisphere. Real quick, Alex, I got to do a read here.

[Alex Marlowe]

Sure.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Andrew Colvett]

South Americans in general, affordable Colombians, Ecuadorians.

[Blake Neff]

And it's great, they've given us a lot of support, but it does mean that it can shape our outlook that they might really fixate on this particular issue that is less, that is less compelling to the rest of the country. And it can just, it can just be what they marinate in the same way that people in D.C. you get a lot of our war hawk people because they just marinate in a pro intervention kind of pro military industrial complex environment that makes them more inclined towards thinking, oh yeah, we can solve our problems in the Middle east by dropping these bombs, by overthrowing this government. And I think you have a good point that, yeah, Trump really despises the drug dealers. He sees this Venezuelan government as linked to that. And if he can remove it, he can mitigate the problem. But I will remind everyone that nothing causes more drug smuggling to happen than pure anarchy. We overthrew the Taliban, which had a little bit, which basically blew up all of the opium and heroin coming out of Afghanistan. We took out Gaddafi and then Libya became this endless supply of migrants sailing into Europe. It remains to this day. So if you pulverize the Venezuelan government, do you just end up where there's anarchy in Venezuela, so even more drugs are coming out of there? Maybe you cause even more Venezuelans to flee the country and then they end up in all these different places.

[Andrew Colvett]

Points well made. We're going to welcome back national radio in just one second. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So my idea for the final segment is, and I want to keep building this out, probably tomorrow with you, Alex and Blake. There is something happening to the American psyche where we are seeing a bifurcation of what reality looks like for either side. And I think it just depends on what algorithm you find yourself on. And we saw this with what happened with Charlie, right? It's like there is a certain percentage of the population that is really convinced of the most awful doomerism imaginable from the American left. They see it, you know, on msnbc, cnn, then it goes into Reddit and then it goes into these discord chats and they literally think that they are fighting Nazis. And there was a video that went viral over the weekend about an American liberal who's fleeing to Canada. And this thing goes on for like five minutes. This clip is just incredible. And it's a. It just shows. It's this window into the psyche of the left that they really think that Trump is Hitler. They really think that they're fighting fascism. Play cut 54.

[Blake Neff]

We are just literally minutes away from.

[Alex Marlowe]

The border to Canada as we flee.

[Blake Neff]

The US.

[Alex Marlowe]

Who would have thought at.

[Andrew Colvett]

Age 60 that this would be our.

[Alex Marlowe]

Day and our plan? And in our actions we just feel so scrutinized and so silenced and so being portrayed as enemies within and being portrayed as domestic terrorists.

[Blake Neff]

He hit the ground running in January, the day he was inaugurated.

[Andrew Colvett]

So what's striking to me about this clip, right, is you remember that famous Joe Biden speech, Alex, where the red in the background, he's talking about MAGA extremists and the number one threat to America is these white supremacists. So we were villainized and otherized and told that we were the existential threat to our country, but yet this guy thinks that it's our side that's doing it to him.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

What do you make of this?

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, it's MSNBC brain, or TikTok brain, whatever it is. And it's very scary. I had this convers after Trump won with a friend of mine in the neighborhood who's Indian American and works in the arts. And he was really concerned after Trump won that he wasn't gonna be able to go downtown cuz he might get rounded up by ice. And that was his thought. The guy pays a ton in taxes, has a clean criminal record and is Indian. And there's no evidence of Trump rounding up any American citizens who are law abiding. I mean, he's not doing that at all. He's going after the bad guys who are criminals. And then I thought about that a lot after Charlie was shot about how that guy was telling me I'm the problem, the guys I support are the problem. Were the ones who were taking out the innocents. And then you watch Charlie get gunned down for what he believed, what he stood for. And so I have no tolerance for these people. I hope he enjoys Canada. I don't need him here. He can say he wants, but I don't care. I don't think about these people a lot until you hear the TikTok clips. But in a post Charlie Kirk assassination world, we have a lot less tolerance. This type of language and the disparaging of our country when it's the left that has this violent streak and they're the ones who are taking out our field generals.

[Andrew Colvett]

I totally agree with that. By the way, I mean, in a post Charlie world, and by the way, every poll indicates that the left is the party, the side that is embracing violence. Our side, actually. I'm so proud of this and I give Charlie so much credit for this that the youngest conservatives, self described conservatives, are basically the most peaceful group.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvett]

They are the least likely to justify political violence to achieve a political end. And that is a lot of credit to Charlie who advocated and modeled open debate and dialogue and free speech. And so our side is saying, hey, we want to win the old fashioned way. We want to win in the marketplace of ideas. And it's the left that's actually continuing to otherize.

[Alex Marlowe]

It's blackmail fascist.

[Andrew Colvett]

Not just watch blackmail bigots. Totally. It's totally blackmail. And by the way, he gets to the end of the clip and he goes, well, I'm just going to be here for two or three weeks, Wolf. So he's like, no courage of his conviction. It's called the vacation. You're not playing anything. You tick tock clip. I'll just leave it at that. I was gonna say something nasty. Blake, what's your take on this?

[Donald Trump]

Man?

[Blake Neff]

It's just people, they really want to like they almost want to live in more interesting times than they do, which is surprising because we live in pretty interesting times as is. And frankly, it's weird to say pretty entertaining, like whatever else you want to say. So Donald Trump is incredibly funny. A lot of our politics is very wacky and entertaining. But they want to be like hyper persecuted individuals.

[Andrew Colvett]

I have a whole theory that like basically the entire left wants to act like they're marching in Selma, you know, like they have one model in their head for how this works and that's it.

[Blake Neff]

And like those women who dress up in those handmade outfits, like they really.

[Alex Marlowe]

They'Re like, oh, it's a fetish. It's a total fetish. Like this is how they amuse themselves. They pretend like the person they are.

[Andrew Colvett]

Cosplay playing as, like civil rights warriors.

[Blake Neff]

Look at Mamdani, you know, coming in and just saying, like, oh, yeah, after 9, 11, you know, we were just this incredibly persecuted group.

[Andrew Colvett]

I know. It's. It's all made up. It's all it was. Charlie used to say, it's like, whose line is it? Anywhere where the points are made up and the rules don't matter. And that's what we're dealing with.

[Alex Marlowe]

It must be so annoying in person. They must have totally unfulfilling lives.

[Andrew Colvett]

I think that's probably true, Alex. Marlo Breitbart News. He's gonna be back with us tomorrow, so check it out tomorrow. We'll. We'll talk with you again soon.

[Alex Marlowe]

Thanks, guys.

[Blake Neff]

Nice show.

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