The Charlie Kirk Show, October 3, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – October 3, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Andrew Colvett (Executive Producer), Mikey McCoy, Blake Neff, with guests Tyler O’Neill and Pastor John Ahern
Special Focus: Life after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the SPLC, Christianity’s future in Europe, audience AMA, political and cultural commentary

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Episode Overview

This emotionally charged episode of The Charlie Kirk Show grapples with the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s recent assassination. The hosts and guests reflect on Charlie's influence, analyze current events through his lens, and address themes of faith, American and European identity, political polarization, and the weaponization of labels like "hate." Special guest Tyler O’Neill, author and SPLC critic, details the organization's evolution and problematic tactics, while Pastor John Ahern joins to discuss Christianity's struggles and revival in Europe. The second hour shifts to a lively AMA with listener questions about faith, politics, and pop culture, maintaining Charlie’s original mission: bold engagement with the world, grounded in Christian and American values.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Charlie's Legacy and the Show's New Direction

• The hosts honor Charlie Kirk’s memory, discussing his courage and the movement sparked by his martyrdom.
  • Andrew Colvett: “Charlie believed that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church… We know that because he wrote it.” (43:29)
• Erica Kirk, Charlie’s widow, is highlighted as a source of ongoing strength.
• Listeners and contributors share stories of Charlie’s influence, praying for his legacy to continue shaping young leaders and believers.

2. Critique of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)

• Guest: Tyler O’Neill (Author, "Making Hate Pay," senior editor at The Daily Signal)
  • O’Neill describes how the SPLC shifted from a civil rights-focused law center to a lucrative, partisan institution.
  • Evolution of SPLC (08:33–12:30):
    • Early work: Combated the KKK (applauded by O'Neill as genuinely noble)
    • Shift in the 2000s: Began labeling mainstream conservative and Christian groups as “hate groups,” often alongside the Klan.
    • Quote: “If you are the Family Research Council, if you are Alliance Defending Freedom… the SPLC on their hate map is comparing you to the Klan.” (10:20)
  • O’Neill recounts incidents where SPLC labeling allegedly inspired political violence (e.g., the 2012 FRC shooting).
  • Explains SPLC’s business model: “They basically run this scare operation… whip [donors] up into a frenzy to make money.” (18:21)
  • SPLC now holds $700+ million in endowment, including offshore accounts.
  • Urges legal/governmental scrutiny of SPLC’s tactics; links to tech, finance, and “union busting” scandals.

Notable Quotes:

• Tyler O’Neill:
  • “It really looks like the SPLC’s hate map is, to some degree, a kill list.” (12:45)
  • “They position themselves as the premier force monitoring and combating hate in America… Everyone to the right of Adolf Hitler… is essentially Adolf Hitler.” (18:56)

3. Equity vs. Equality and “Woke” Ideology

• Charlie Kirk (archival clip): "Equity is really forced redistributionism for a desired result, which is nothing more than a totalitarian power grab." (04:17)
• Extended criticism of the Biden administration and the left for pushing "toxic ideological garbage” and conflating equity (outcome-based) with equality (opportunity-based).
• Discussion on how progressive policy frames social chaos and political violence (e.g., who is responsible, who is allowed to talk openly about it).

4. Political Violence and Media Narrative

• Hosts and guests analyze mainstream reluctance to discuss right-wing violence, alleging deflection and distortion by media personalities like Megyn Kelly.
  • Charlie Kirk: “It is the laziest pivot in American media… Megyn Kelly has a history of minimizing racism.” (03:30)

5. Christian Revival in Europe with Pastor John Ahern

• Ahern shares optimism about Europe’s spiritual awakening, despite a backdrop of secularization and Islamization.
  • Pastor Ahern: “Christianity will survive without Europe. Europe will not survive without Christianity.” (27:18)
  • Reports on large “March for Jesus” events in Dublin and Belfast—tens of thousands attending, young people prominent.
  • Sees a rising generation disillusioned with “great awokening” and turning toward Christ.
  • Quote: “Our history is a Christian history… Secular governments have been methodically erasing and undermining it.” (29:53)

Charlie Kirk (clip, 34:18) on Islam in Europe:

• “The Islamist invasion brought to you by the secular humanist European technocratic elites is making Europe worse. It’s making Europe dirtier, less safe… Islam conquers. Islam devours… Islam’s own self-story is that we will take you over. It’s totalitarianism masked as a religion.”

Reflections:

• Panel notes the symbolic decline of Christianity (Ireland: 2006—90%; now ~65%) and the need for prophetic church leadership.
• Ahern describes the "Charlie effect" across Europe—especially after Kirk’s assassination (36:46).

6. Listener AMA: Questions, Culture, and Advice

Highlights:

• Faith and Bible study: Listeners ask about apologetics, Calvinism, and how to choose a Bible study tradition (61:27ff).
• Church community: Guidance for finding brave, biblically faithful churches and the importance of in-person worship for youth (93:57).
• Immigration: Legal immigrants express frustration at the current system, highlighting how legal pathways are far harder than illegal entry (72:33).
  • Blake Neff: “We make it easier and better for the individuals who are violating the process…” (72:33)
• Taylor Swift and Conservatism: Caller notes new lyrics about family and commitment; hosts (and Daisy) discuss Charlie’s public campaign for Taylor to “get married and have kids,” connecting that to broader cultural messaging (82:29–87:53).
• Getting Adults Involved: How adult supporters can engage with Turning Point Action beyond student programs—suggestions for structure and local chapters (77:43).
• Shame Segment: Hosts target public figures (incl. Ilhan Omar) and writers like Thomas Chatterton Williams for what they describe as unfair or slanderous attacks on Charlie’s legacy and the right more broadly (65:08–70:59; 90:07).
  • “I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.” (70:59, Andrew Colvett)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the SPLC:
  • Tyler O’Neill (12:45): “The SPLC’s hate map is, to some degree, a kill list.”
• On European Revival:
  • Pastor Ahern (27:18): “Christianity will survive without Europe. Europe will not survive without Christianity.”
• On Islam in Europe:
  • Charlie Kirk (34:18, archival): “Immigration without assimilation is invasion. And Islam does not assimilate. Islam conquers.”
• On Modern Church:
  • Charlie Kirk (44:38, archival): “Are you transforming the environment you come in contact with?... Do not allow eschatology to be an excuse for you not to fight evil.”
• On Charlie’s Legacy:
  • Andrew Colvett (43:29): “Charlie believed that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. We know that he believed that because he wrote it.”
• On Immigration Frustrations:
  • Blake Neff (72:33): “We make it easier and better for the individuals who are violating the process…”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• SPLC History & Critique – Tyler O’Neill: 07:58–21:44
• European Christianity & Pastor Ahern: 26:03–46:53
  • March for Jesus and rising youth movement: 27:18–33:03
  • Islam’s influence and identity discussion: 33:56–38:00
• Listener Q&A: Church, Bible, and Culture: 60:22–94:05
• Shame Segment (Chatterton Williams, Ilhan Omar): 65:08–70:59; 90:07–91:15
• Taylor Swift Conversation: 81:48–87:53

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Tone & Style

The episode blends somber reflection and banter, oscillating between deep concern for Western civilization’s future and light-hearted, familial camaraderie. The hosts (often joined by long-time friends and contributors) defend Charlie Kirk’s legacy fiercely, calling out detractors and rallying their base around Christian revival, conservative action, and “honest” anti-establishment analysis. The language is direct, passionate, at times combative—echoing Charlie’s own style.

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For New Listeners

If you missed this episode, you’ll find:

• A moving tribute to the enduring force of Charlie Kirk’s ideas
• First-hand critiques of the SPLC and its shifting mission
• Actionable encouragement for Christian renewal, both in the US and abroad
• Practical advice on faith, culture, and political involvement
• Dynamic audience participation, illustrating the active “Charlie effect”
• Candid, sometimes pointed, cultural and political critique—always with an eye toward reclaiming what the hosts see as core American and Christian values.

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Transcript

[Caller/Listener]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now. Every Republican who's gone on TV the.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

Last 12 hours or so has called.

[Charlie Kirk]

This the Schumer shutdown. What do you say about that name? Senator Schumer, can you hear me? I can't hear Senator Schumer. Can you hear me? I don't think Senator Schumer can hear me right now. Maybe the government shut down included audio on Capitol Hill. People say, well, why can't you stop illegal immigrants or others from coming here? And the number one answer we give.

[Blake Neff]

Our constituents is when they come here.

[Charlie Kirk]

They can get jobs, get benefits. Against the law because of fraud. Raise your hand if government, if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. We do not think the comprehensive health care benefits should be extended to those who are undocumented workers and illegal aliens. We do not want to do anything to encourage more illegal immigration in, into this country. This administration has done a great deal.

[Tyler O'Neill]

From day one to remove the social.

[Charlie Kirk]

Justice, politically correct and toxic ideological garbage.

[Terrence Bates]

That had infected our department, to rip out the politics. I think that kind of proves my point.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, if we were done with that, I don't think he would be.

[Terrence Bates]

Secretary of Defense in his definition. In the Trump administration's definition of diversity, equity, and inclusion, Pete Hegseth is a DEI hire.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pete Hegseth is not qualified for that.

[Terrence Bates]

Position, and he shouldn't be in that position. So therefore, it's very tough for me and many people in America to take him seriously about anything. So that's where I stand that we're done with that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Anyways. It just.

[Terrence Bates]

I don't really take him seriously. And on the current law, undocumented immigrants are already ineligible for Medicaid, the ACA.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exchanges, and for SNAP benefits.

[Terrence Bates]

Not a single undocumented immigrant in this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a dime in federal taxpayer dollars.

[Terrence Bates]

For any part of comprehensive Medicaid coverage, not one. That's why I say Megyn Kelly and Glenn Greenwald, they don't.

[Charlie Kirk]

They don't want to talk about political violence because if they did, they would.

[Terrence Bates]

Have to face the truth. Much of what we talked about today.

[Charlie Kirk]

The greatest threat of political violence in America today is white men radicalized to the right.

[Terrence Bates]

That is fact. But they never want to have that conversation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Instead, they change the subject.

[Terrence Bates]

They redirect. They take a question about insurrections, mass shootings, and terrorism, and they turn it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Into a debate about what?

[Terrence Bates]

About crime overall. Because you have to deflect it somewhere.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, you can't.

[Terrence Bates]

You got to keep Your base, you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Got to fire them up.

[Terrence Bates]

You can't tell them the truth.

[Charlie Kirk]

Which is, I mean, so indicative of what.

[Terrence Bates]

Happens with MAGA right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

And why. So that they can recycle the same.

[Terrence Bates]

Old racist talking points. That black men are the real problem. It is the laziest pivot in American media. Megyn Kelly has a history of minimizing racism, downplaying what black people live with every single day.

[Charlie Kirk]

That is her record. And now she wants to stand in.

[Terrence Bates]

Judgment about who causes violence in this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

Spare me. Well, for an immigrant in the US is.

[Tyler O'Neill]

It means living in constant fear, and.

[Charlie Kirk]

It'S painful to see. I just hope that. That they can be treated and that.

[Tyler O'Neill]

We all can be treated under principles of equity.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

Equity or equity of outcome, which is to take from one group to another and to blame discrimination for that disparity. That is evil, and it must be opposed at all costs. If I gave $100 to every single person in this room and you came back, some people would go buy some stock on Robinhood. Other people would go out and have a nice time at the bar, and other people just lose. When you have liberty, outcomes will be different. It's a hard thing to say, but people will be rewarded for good choices, and they'll be penalized for bad choices. That's the price of liberty. And so it's very important that we communicate the differences between equality under the law, equality of opportunity, and then equity, which is really forced redistributionism for a desired result, which is nothing more than a totalitarian power grab.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie Kirk. Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with.

[Terrence Bates]

The will to deceive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go. Morning, everybody. Or I guess on the East Coast. It's 12 noon. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show. I'm joined by the one and only Mikey McCoy, the most okayest guest host. Oh, you are the. You. What are you talking about? Mediocre, Mikey.

[Blake Neff]

I'm way more okay than you.

[Charlie Kirk]

You. You guys. If anybody's mediocre, it's me. That's why they just let me, like, facilitate, you know? I don't know about that. Anyways. No, Mikey. Everybody loves Mikey. I've heard more about Mikey McCoy lately than I care to. No, I'm just kidding. Well, thank you. Yeah, no, it's. We're We're. We're so glad we. We had you on last Friday. And I was like, I think we should just make this a thing. Fridays. Yeah, Fridays with Mikey. Because we're gonna. We're gonna do hour two is gonna be ama. So we're gonna have our members submit questions, and a lot of them are gonna be about what Charlie was like or what he thought about things or. And, you know, we need you. So anyway, so. And then obviously, Blake Neff, one of the producers on the show, our not so secret weapon and sombrero wearing amigo. If you missed our. If you missed our thought crime, irl. I saw it. I loved it. It was fun. Yeah, I actually got off easy. I just had to do the first, like, 30 minutes. And Blake. Blake. We did a line change and Blake came in, so please check that out. We have a lot to get to. The SBLC is in the news breaking just moments ago. Cash Patel has officially severed ties between the FBI and the splc. It kind of had a vibe that he wasn't even aware that there. There was a tie until comments were floated on. On social media. I doubt it was impacting his job so much, but the fact that there was official tie was pretty offensive. So I want to welcome in the guy who wrote the book on the sblc, and that is Tyler o'. Neill. He's the senior editor at Daily Signal, and he also is the author of the book Making Hate Pay the Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center. So, Tyler o', Neil, welcome to the show. Thank you for making the time. I've been seeing you all over social media, trying to raise the alarm bells about the splc, and I got a lot of questions. Blake might chime in, Mikey might chime in, but I'm just going to start. Explain to me why you. What inspired you to write the book in the first place, because you were ahead of the curve. And for those who are unaware of what the SBLC is, Tyler, tell us what it is and what it's become. Yeah.

[Tyler O'Neill]

Thank you so much for having me. Let me just say it is an honor to be on the Charlie Kirk Show. You know, being. Seeing everything that Charlie did to champion free speech on our college campuses after it had been stifled for so long. And, you know, seeing him become the martyr to free speech that he was, I mean, it just. It shook me to my core. But he has been such an inspiration, and it means the world to me to be here. So I just want to mention that.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, thank you for that. Yeah, thank you.

[Tyler O'Neill]

But yeah, to answer your question. So the Southern Poverty Law center, as the name suggests, it began as a public interest civil rights law firm that represented poor people in the South. And back in the day, it believed in representing everyone. So it actually had a reverse racism case representing white men who had been discriminated against in a majority black employment opportunity. So, you know, this was a noble organization. But the leader of that organization, the main fundraiser, Morris Dees, he started realizing that he could make the most amount of money by going after the Ku Klux Klan. And this is, you know, let me be clear. The Klan is evil incarnate in my mind. I mean, they are the quintessential hate group in American history. And so every time that the SPLC sued a Klan group into bankruptcy, I think that's a win for America. But what we see in the 1980s is that this is the thing that got the SPLC attention and. And money. And we actually had the legal team at the SPLC quit en masse because they had signed up to work at the SPLC to represent poor people in the south, not to go hunting Klan groups. And all the lawsuits involving the Klan they said, were like shooting fish in a barrel. They were also disturbed by the fact that the SPLC was starting to develop ties with law enforcement that they were facing, feeding that they were guiding law enforcement to find people who were, you know, at the time, you know, real racist threats. But eventually, you know, the SPLC created those ties to law enforcement that would later become what we saw horrifically in the Biden years and even before that to some degree. So the SPLC, around the year 2000 is when they start their third iteration, they had four run out of Klan groups, they ran out of grand dragons to conquer, and they started putting mainstream conservative and Christian organizations on their hate map with chapters of the Ku Klux Klan. And they say that this hate map shows the infrastructure upholding white supremacy in the United States of America. So make no mistake, if you are the Family Research Council, if you are Alliance Defending Freedom, and if you are, you know, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, and they put you on that hate map, they are comparing you to the Klan, saying you are a violent force of hate that needs to be monitored by law enforcement, that needs to be cut off from polite society. And the SPLC takes this hate map, goes to big tech, goes to corporations, says, you need to use this to blacklist people, goes to the charitable sector, says you need to blacklist people on this. So one of the things that really drew my attention to the SPLC was in 2012 when a terrorist targeted the Family Research council in Washington D.C. they're a conservative Christian nonprofit. This guy showed up there, he used the SPLC hate map to find them. He had a semi automatic pistol and a bag of Chick Fil A sandwiches. And he told the FBI he planned to shoot everyone in the building and smear a Chick Fil a sandwich in their faces. And the SPLC rightly, you know, condemned the attack. But the SPLC hasn't taken the Family Research Council off their hate map. And if anything, the SPLC has gotten far worse. So, I mean, as you put up there on the screen, rightly, the SPLC added Turning Point USA to the hate map earlier this year. And I was the first one to realize that and break the story on X. I remember Daily Signal, but you know, this is when they're putting the largest conservative grassroots youth organization on a map with chapters of the Klan. This is so far off the reservation. I mean, you can't make this up. And yet we saw just a couple months later a man who had a transgender boyfriend allegedly opening fire and murdering Charlie Kirk in cold blood. And we don't know if he was at all inspired by the SPLC. But it really looks like the SPLC's hate map is to some degree a kill list. And this is, you know, this isn't the first time, this isn't even the second time the SPLC has been tied to to political terrorism. It also happened in 2017 when that man opened fire, nearly killed Steve Scalise at the Congressional Baseball game practice. And he had liked the SPLC on Facebook. Now every time this sort of thing happens, the SPLC says we condemn political violence. We condemn political violence. I'm sorry, they need to put their money where their mouth is and have at least one modicum of actually doing something. And taking Turning Point USA off the hate map. They need to scrap it entirely. But I've been asking directly, specifically one specific ask and they can't do that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, no, I appreciate you keeping such an eye on this. You've been exceptional in your focus and in just holding them to account. But I think we need much more than just taking Turning Point off a list at this point. I completely agree. I posted last night on X that their hate list was really just a hit list. And Elon Musk, I guess is quote, tweeted it, which good for him and he's been excellent on this ADL and sblc. And at some point it stops mattering. Tyler, if these people were directly motivated by something they saw in the splc. It creates a. It creates an ecosystem of political violence, a sheen of legitimacy to the political violence. So one second right there. I gotta talk about one of our partners here, and I'm gonna talk about Tax Network usa. The government needs more money, more of your money. If you owe the IRS back taxes, they can garnish your wages and levy your bank accounts. They can even seize your retirement or take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. You call the professionals at Tax Network usa. Their tax lawyers and enrolled agents are experts in powerful programs that may even help you eliminate your tax debt altogether. Tax Network USA is A. A rated and saved over $1 billion for their clients. Whether you have a few thousand or a few million, they can help you. So for a free consultation, absolutely free, call Tax Network USA today, TN, USA.com TNUS USA.com or call 1800-958100-01800-958-1000 or visit TN USA. We'll be right back. 100% American made and darn proud of it. The Charlie Kirk show. All right, welcome back, everybody. I was just checking out your emails. Erica was sending me some emails. And by the way, there are some about you, Mikey. I'm gonna get to those in just a second. Look at this. This is Sarah. She says thanks for keeping up the show with everything you all have faced in the last three weeks. We're here watching and supporting you. Keep up with sharing the news. Andrew, you do a great job. Thank you. And love Mikey and Blake, too. Wow. And then Mikey McCoy. I totally enjoy Mikey McCoy. This is from Carla. He has an infectious laugh and Christian wisdom. Thank you, Carla. I am very familiar with his dad, having lived in ventura county for 37 years before I relocated. So that's pretty great. Mikey McCoy. This is from Sharon. I think the ladies like you, Mikey. I get a lot of the Sharon. Yeah, the Sharon's, the Carla's, the Carlas. Is he old enough to drink? No, Mikey looks like he's about 18. Wow. You are awesome. I just turned 15. Yeah. No, Mikey is old enough to drink. Although I don't think you do, do you? I am old enough to drink. I do not drink. Yeah, exactly. Is he old enough to drink? Yes. Mikey looks like he's about 18. Wow. You're all awesome. Thanks for continuing with Charlie's show. It's so cool to see the show rating so high on Apple podcast. I agree. Thank you guys so much. We're going to be Back with Tyler in just one. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show, radio stations across the country. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Mikey McCoy. You don't have, like, a show title, but, you know, you were Charlie's chief of staff. You traveled with power.

[Blake Neff]

The real McCoy.

[Charlie Kirk]

The real. The real McCoy. McCoy. I like it. Yes. And Blake Neff, one of our producers here, our not so secret weapon, Blake Neff. So Tyler o', Neill, senior editor of the Daily Signal, as well as author of Making Hate Pay. This. This Making Hate Pay is the piece that I really want to dive into. Blake was actually the one who originally clued me in on this. Basically, it's this big racket where it's a lot of direct mail. They send it to elderly people that maybe came of age during a different time, and they fleeced them. Like, please chime in on that.

[Blake Neff]

It's like, I think, you know, Tyler can explain this, but they basically run this, like, scare operation. You know, they'll send you a letter, and they're like, the number of hate groups in America has grown by 50% in the last two years.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hate is on the rise, you know.

[Blake Neff]

And it's all they could go after. Older liberals who are, like, terrified the Holocaust is going to happen again. It's, like, around every corner, and they just, like, whip them up into a frenzy to make money. But I think you can explain more, Tyler.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Tyler, am I accurate in saying that they have just under a billion dollars in reserves? They have.

[Tyler O'Neill]

Yeah. They have over $700 million in their endowment. They have millions of dollars in Cayman island accounts offshore, which we still don't have an answer as to why a nonprofit has Cayman island accounts. But, yeah, I mean, essentially the business model is we position ourselves as the premier force monitoring and combating hate in America. And then we constantly go to our donors and say, look, hate is increasing. Here's why. Everyone to the right of Adolf Hitler. Everyone to the right of Joseph Stalin is, you know, is essentially Adolf Hitler. And so you have this situation where the SPLC puts you on this map that's not clear how you can ever get off of the map. And then they go to their donors.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a great point, by the way.

[Tyler O'Neill]

Their donors are from the George McGovern campaign. So these are the donors, the Democrats who wanted things to be further left back in the 1970s. That's where the first big tranche of donors, or actually it was 68.

[Charlie Kirk]

The big.

[Tyler O'Neill]

No, no, no. 72. Sorry. The big tranche of donors is from there. And then it's all the people since then. And now they've positioned themselves, they're working very closely with. Well, I mean we don't have entire proof, but they have a lot of disturbing ties to Antifa and the people on the ground who have been engaging in these violent riots. And so what you have with the Southern Poverty Law center is this interesting mix of these old liberals who kind of passed the torch to the new on the ground, violent leftists. And they have been making the splc. There's a big battle at the splc. Last year they were accused of union busting. And to answer your original question, why I wrote the book was partially because of the FRC shooting, partially because in 2019 we had a racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal where the founder of the splc, the co founder Morris Dees, was fired. The president resigned. It was a huge deal. Jocelyn Benson, by the way, the Secretary of State for Michigan, stepped down from the board at this time and the SPLC went through this scandal. We saw a couple of reports in the legacy media, but mostly it was crickets. And then a couple months later you had the new president of the SPLC coming out comparing the SPLC to the Underground Railroad. And I said no, we are not going to allow the SPLC to bury this scandal. And I want people to know how untrustworthy this group is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Absolutely. And this is what bothers me, Blake, is how they borrow from an actually noble past and they, they keep donning the robes of an admirable generation gone by. And you could have disagreements even with that. I certainly do. But at least there was an acknowledgement that hey, there was legitimately Klan members that were hostile to blacks in the South. I mean, I'm sure there still are, but it was actually a thing that probably needed to be addressed. Right. And the fact that they showed a little bit of impartiality, playing it both ways shows that there was some good, at least some good sense, some old school values that were in the organization that is way, way gone. And I'm actually, you know, just. We've got about a minute left but I want, I'm gonna keep going in the break, just a little bit in the stream. But what I want, I'm curious about is how do we actually go after this group with some teeth, right? They live in Alabama or they're based in Alabama. It sounds like you just laid out a bunch of predicates for legitimate investigations maybe by the Alabama Attorney General's office or maybe by the harmeet. Dhillon needs to get involved. But also they have ties to PayPal and other corporations. Am I right? So this is, I mean, we can't use like rico, right? We went through that last night because, you know, whether they're working with Antifa or not, one of the things that I've learned because of Blake is that the original RICO statutes were designed to go after the mafia. So it's not like inciting a riot is part of the statute. So anyways, we're gonna go in the break. More with Tyler o' Neill on SPLC for a few more minutes. Don't go anywhere foreign. At 10am Eastern, history sets sail. I'm going to have all folks from the Navy, national security experts.

[Blake Neff]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Terrence Bates]

Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break. Thanks so much for being here with us. It is day three of the government shutdown and President Trump is warning that there could be further firings and project cuts if the shutdown continues. Taking to Truth Social on Thursday, the commander in chief saying that he was set to meet with the director of the Office of Budget and Management, Russ Vogt. They discussed which government agencies should face mass firings and which Democrat project should be cut 47 toying with the idea of giving Americans rebate checks from new tariff revenues as well. He says those revenues are projected to reach a trillion dollars a year with some of the funds slated to pay down the national deb, which is approaching $38 trillion. As for the rebate checks to American taxpayers, the president says anything between one and $2,000 is possible. Police in Manchester, England, are calling Thursday's deadly attack at a synagogue an act of terror. At least two people are dead, three others hurt. Investigators confirmed the suspect plowed into a crowd of worshipers with a car outside the synagogue and then went on a stabbing spree. All of this happened on Yom Kippur, which is the holiest day of the Jewish calendar. The guy was eventually shot and killed. We now know he's a 35 year old British citizen who immigrated from Syria. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Sandra Colvette, executive producer of this show, joined by Mikey McCoy. You're going to be important in this segment given your background. I know one or two things about Pastor. Yeah, exactly. Blake Neff and then Pastor John Ahern. Did I get that right? Because it sounds so much better in your accent.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Yeah, John Ahern.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right. John Ahern. John Ahern. You had to know that that was going to come when you come with the thick Irish accent.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Yeah, there you go.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. I'm so glad to have you on set. You were in town and you're actually, it's one of our team members. His dad also runs a church in town and you guys were connected by that. And I was, I was like, this is amazing. So you tell us what you do. You, you are, I think it's safe to say, one of the biggest Protestant preachers in Ireland. And. But you sort of have this ecumenical call across Europe to lift up the name of Jesus and the identity, the Christian identity of Europe. And it's so powerful because you've been doing these marches with thousands and thousands of people through the streets of Dublin or Belfast and it sounds like you're going to be taking that work even beyond Ireland.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, you know, this is the reality. Christianity will survive without Europe. Europe will not survive without Christianity. And so I suppose for myself as a pastor, I pastor a church in Dublin, All Nations Church and in Belfast. But in reality, looking at the larger scheme of things in the European continent, we need an awakening. Things aren't going on the right path at present. But, you know, there have been stirrings and, you know, across Europe, there's been about 15 cities this year that have had marches for Jesus.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Pastor John Ahern]

And so there is a new generation that are turning to Christ. And certainly, I think for many of us, you know, looking at what has happened in the States, you know, even seeing the funeral of the late Charlie Kirk and just how, you know, a nation can turn towards Christ and to see that awakening that's happening because, you know, five years ago, America was in quite a different place.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, two years ago, one year ago.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Yeah. Well, the government was promoting wokeness not just here, but internationally. And we were dealing with much of that over in Europe. And so I apologize on behalf of Americans, certainly. I think a lot of us have taken hope because we're watching America and we're seeing how there is an awakening happening in real time. There's a new generation that's turning to Christ. And we believe that the hope and the answer is found in the gospel of Christ. And like I said, I mean, you know, we had 25,000 people last Saturday.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have some video of this. I want to. Can we play it for the stream so they can see it? I mean, this is, this is a big accomplishment in Ireland. Yeah, maybe getting 25. You know, here we go. I think this is clips from your march for Jesus. And it's a really powerful thing. You know, we were talking before you came on and just, you know, in politics, right, there's, we believe, you know, billboards and yard signs are actually important. The physical presence, you know, it's not just digital ads, it's not just podcasts. But this is why we have live events. This is why we do am fest, this is why we, we do gatherings on college campuses. Because that IRL in real life is so human and necessary. And so you put this big physical presence on the streets of Dublin and Belfast and then across Europe and it's. It, your, your goal of reasserting that Christian identity takes on set, it takes on flesh.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, you know, we. 8,000 people marched in Belfast about a month ago and 25, like I said, last, last week in Dublin. And one of the first things we did was to publicly reaffirm the Christian identity of our nations. Because whether you're talking about Ireland, Great Britain, or any of the nations of Europe, our history is a Christian history. It's not a Muslim history or a Buddhist history or a Hindu history or an atheist history. It's a Christian history. And you've had secular governments who have been methodically erasing or seeking to erase and undermine.

[Charlie Kirk]

Speaking of which, you know, we learned this from James Orr, Dr. James Orr, who is, he's a professor at Cambridge. He was on the show, he spent time with Charlie and when they were, you know, he says obviously it must be true if he's saying it. He's a very credible person. I haven't double checked, but when they were creating the UN Charter, there was a bit of an argument about whether we include Christianity in the charter and they opted to not.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, the EU constitution, or was it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did I say un, I mean eu.

[Pastor John Ahern]

The EU constitution, there was no mention of God. You know, particularly bearing in mind you think of the greatest achievements of Europe in terms of architecture, and art, literature. Christ was at the center of so much of what was accomplished and what, you know, ultimately created what we know as Western civilization. And so, you know, certainly for us, I believe it's something we have to fight for. And like I said, it's. You know, there's a saying that nature abhors a vacuum. And, you know, the reality is there has been a spiritual vacuum in much of Western civilization, and that's why it's coming apart at the seams.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm going to throw to Blake here because Blake traveled. Well, I guess you both did. You traveled with Charlie to the uk, which obviously is not Ireland, but close neighbor, same language, a lot of the shared history. And it really became clear to me after Charlie's death that he was a prophet and that he was calling nations to repent. And Blake and Mikey traveled with him on that tour. And I mean, Blake, you saw it firsthand. I mean, what was the reaction then? And then I'm interested kind of what the reaction has been since. But take us into that moment.

[Blake Neff]

Well, it was just, obviously, when you get in there, it's just very depressing because you have this strong sense that it's a post. It's kind of like a post Christian state. You have this. It gets really sad because you walk around central London, you have all these, like, statues and such to that are beautiful, great Christian figures, beautiful churches everywhere. But then the storefronts, Arabic language, large. You know, there's mosques all over the city as well. Obviously, a very large share of the population is Muslim. And it's like that in huge chunks of the uk I'm sure you've saw a lot of that, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just want to point out there is a decline in Christianity in Ireland in 2006. 90% of the country is Christian. Now you guys are around 65%. And so I see a lot of young people that are marching in the streets. Do you feel like it's old people that aren't necessarily aligning? And then at the same time, you see an increase of Islam?

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, you know, the last 20. The last 20 years, you know, we've had the great awokening, so to speak. But I believe we're starting to see a great awakening. And there's a younger generation who've had LGBT shoved down their throats left, right and center. You know, so many of our institutions have been ideologically captured. You know, because when you have elected members of government saying there's eight or more genders, and they've been pushing all of this radical sex Education in our schools, et cetera. And I think there's a generation that are tired of that. They've seen through that and they're looking for reality. Since COVID the number one selling book has been the Bible. And not just in Ireland, but in so many the UK and across Europe. And there is a generation that are seeking, and this is a day, I believe, for the church to be prophetic, to be bold, and to step into the gap and shine the light and show people.

[Charlie Kirk]

And this is exactly what Charlie did. It's a longer clip, it's about a minute long, but on September 2nd, so eight days before Charlie was assassinated and robbed from us, one of the last things he was really doing was raising the alarm about Islam. And I believe that God placed that on his heart because it needs to be the focus moving forward. So let's go ahead and play 150.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

You look at Europe. The Islamist invasion brought to you by the secular humanist European technocratic elites is making Europe worse. It's making Europe dirtier. It's making Europe less safe. It has no cultural identity. It's decaying and collapsing as a nation. There's no European identity left whatsoever. And the worst part of it is that it's invited. Islamism has a tendency to take over and metastasize like a cancer. Immigration without assimilation is invasion. And Islam does not assimilate. Islam conquers. Islam takes over. Islam devours. Islam is an imperialistic, parasitic ideology. Islam views itself as a conquering faith. You have to pray five times a day, pointing towards a separate nation pledging fealty to another nation. Islam's own self story is that we will take you over. It's totalitarianism masked as a religion.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And on full display, you see in The Congo, there's 70 Christians being beheaded. Nigeria, there's 7,000 Christians killed. There's been over 100,000 Christians in Nigeria killed by. Was it Boko Haram or. Yes, but that, that's when Islam fully takes over and. Well, that's when they're trying to. Right. In the uk you can get arrested for posting negatively about Islam or about immigration, about rape, gangs or anything like that.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, just we saw, we just had the attack in Manchester the other day by a guy whose name literally translates to Jihad Jihadi from Syria. Like his name was like Jihad al Shem, which is the kind of Arabic.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Rise in anti Semitic, anti Semitism. And I think a lot of it is, is rooted in the Islamization of Europe. And that's where again, you know, I don't believe politics can save Europe. I think only a spiritual awakening can. Savior returning to its roots and, you know, proclaiming the gospel. Because ultimately our battle is not against flesh and blood. People aren't our problem ultimately. It's the fact that we need to, I guess, see a new generation come to Christ and rediscover the values that Charlie spoke so eloquently of. And I mean, certainly, I think he gave a lot of us hope.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Are you seeing the Charlie effect in Europe at all? Is it too soon? Okay.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, it's funny, at the, at the march, we, we took a moment to honor him and you know, there was a big cheer from the crowd and I think there was a lot of people. You know, he had the ability, I think, to kind of transcend the world of politics and religion and I guess connect with a generation who didn't necessarily understand Christianity or Christ. But he was able to break, you know, spiritual truth down and, and present it in a secular environment. And I mean, what he did was, was so brave going into colleges because he was going into colleges during peak wokeness. And it took a lot of courage to do what he did. And, you know, I think there's a lot of people in Europe who have a great admiration for, for the fact that he was connecting a new generation with Christ.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Amen. You got a thought? Yeah, yeah, I agree. I just, I, I think Charlie would always warn and challenge. I think that Islam is probably the biggest threat to Ireland right now outside of the decline in Christianity. Well, and I think wokeism is a big issue, but Charlie said Islam's a cancer.

[Blake Neff]

It's, it's a military wrapped as a religion.

[Charlie Kirk]

It will take you guys over, I feel like. And Charlie was always very clear to break down the distinction between micro and macro. We're not saying there aren't, you know, like, you know, his. Was this his family doctor here in Arizona? I'm forgetting his name. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Is Muslim, but he's a moderate Muslim that's preaching for moderation throughout the Muslim world. But what we're talking about are these mass immigration moves, right? And the fact that the UK and Denmark and France, I mean, it's like across the board in Europe, this just massive move of people and all the population increase in the UK is coming from immigration from Muslim nations. And by the way, it's not just the first wave. They're out breeding you. They have way higher fertility rates. So. Hold on one second there, Pastor. I'll let you respond in just a second. Done with debt you're buried in credit card and loan debt. It's human nature to put it off and say, I'll deal with it later. But you need to deal with it now because Done With Debt guys have come up with a strategy and they've shared it with us on this show. They believe in aggressively going after this immediately because they know which lenders, they then know which lenders and credit card companies are doing year end accounting and need to cut deals. They even know which ones have year end audits and need to get your debt off the books. That means you need to go get started with Done With Debt in September and October. Now Done With Debt accomplishes this without bankruptcy or new loans. In fact, most clients end up with more money in their pockets in the first month. Get started now while you still have time. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com donewithdebt.com we'll be right back. More with Pastor Jonah Hearn. I've got, I've got a friend who does evangelism in Pakistan. He's, he said that the Charlie effect is crazy there. Yeah, he's been doing it for years and all of a sudden he's with all these young men. Yeah. And he tells them, you know, go out in the streets and let's start converting, you know, young Muslim men to Christianity. And he's, you know, they've been doing it for years. And people would respond, but he said all of a sudden after Charlie, he's like, he can't hold him back. They're just like going into the streets and they're praying for people. People are getting saved and people are seeing visions. You know, God is working in mysterious ways even in the Muslim world. I just got that report last night.

[Pastor John Ahern]

And that's our prayer is that, you know, that many of the Muslims that have come to Europe are going to receive Christ. And that I guess the, and this is the other side of it is that, I mean, there have been quite a few Christians that have moved from other nations as well. So, like it's not all negative either. I mean, in that, you know, many Christians that come from South America and Eastern Europe and Africa, maybe America could.

[Charlie Kirk]

Be an encouragement because we have amassed more people from out of our country than any other nation, I think in the world. And you know, it's not the same as Ireland or France that has this very distinct ethnic identity, but we do have a national identity of what an American is. And that's getting drowned out. But we've Assimilated a lot of them and we will do more. We'll welcome radio back in just one second.

[Pastor John Ahern]

I think a lot of the reaction.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show, radio stations across the country. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, joined by Mikey McCoy, Blake Neff and Pastor John Ahern from Ireland. Dublin, right, where you're based, you now see you preach from on every this, like every Sunday. Every Sunday you preach at some big venue, but it's a boxing venue. You preach from the arena, the boxing ring. That's like pulpit. Which is really weird because I had a pastor tell me last week, because we're talking about this, God's doing a new thing. There's a new wine, so you need new wineskin. The old wine skin is not going to work. And he was like, very clear with me. He said, andrew, mark my words, God will bypass most of the pulpits. And so you told me that you're preaching from a boxing ring. And I was like, well, that fits.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Yeah, well, you know, Paul said, fight the good fight of faith. And you know, we are looking to reach a new generation. And you know, we've been really blessed by Hope Church from Arizona. They've come up, they've sent a team of 20, 30 kids once a year to reach out to the college campuses, which was again something that Charlie was doing because, you know, there is a new generation that has to be reached. And I think we can, like I said, we can be obsessing over all the things that are wrong in the world without actually doing something to affect change in a positive way. And so that's one of the things that blessed me about Charlie was just like I said during peak wokeness and like I said, in Ireland, there's a suffocating left wing consensus and many, you know, Britain and many European nations are like that, where a lot of the elites are, you know, various shades of the left and there really isn't a kind of a conservative movement. You know, to see a young man going into colleges and questioning a lot of the woke craziness and exposing, you know, the fallacy of the arguments, etcetera, Was really refreshing and I think it gave a lot of us hope.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good. Well, I love that and I'm going to play another Charlie clip. But here I have a challenge for the audience too. If you are an international listener of the Charlie Kirk show or fan of Charlie kirk, email us freedomarliekirk.com email us freedomarliekirk dot com or if you're just traveling overseas, by the way, if you see the Charlie Kirk effect, I want to see it. I want to hear about it. I want to read about it. Please send us pictures, emails. We would love to hear the stories of the Charlie Kirk effect happening all around the world as Christ is. The gospel of Jesus Christ is going forth. Charlie. I know this, Mikey, you know this. Charlie believed that martyrs are the blood of the martyrs, is the seed of the church. We know that he believed that because he wrote it. And we saw that just actually recently. I don't remember talking to him about it, but I've now seen that he wrote it down, which is quite something. So please send us your stories about the Charlie Kirk effect internationally. And I do agree. I'm going to play this one piece of tape here. Cut five, please.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

Jesus called us to be salt and light. What does salt and light have in common? They change the environments they come in contact with. They don't conform, they don't affirm. They transform what they come in contact with. My question for you. Are you transforming the environment? You come in contact with your place of work? Are you transforming your family? Are you trying to lift people up? Are you trying to reject evil? It says in the Psalms, Psalm 97, 10. What do you want to be caught doing upon Jesus return? Do not allow eschatology to be an excuse for you not to fight evil. Do not allow the signs, the times, for you to be paralyzed, static, to not engage in the culture. We must challenge people to be greater, to reach higher, to be biblical, to be Christlike. And I'm telling you, this generation cannot just be the most conservative generation, but the most Christian generation as we continue to be salt and light in every single walk of our life.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pastor, final word to you this hour.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, final word is Jesus Christ is Lord. He's coming again. And it's so important that people get their lives ready for his return. And night cometh when no man can work. And so we must be about our Father's business. And that's why we're doing what we're doing is because we believe that. I don't believe Europe is lost. I really believe we're going to see a great awakening and a great turning to Christ.

[Charlie Kirk]

I pray, I will pray for Europe. I will pray for Europe earnestly, actually, because it is the cradle of Christian civilization. And it is.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Well, actually, North Africa and Middle east was the cradle of Christianity and then it came to Europe.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, but it is the birthplace of America, certainly. It's what gave birth to America, especially the ideas out of the commonwealth law, common law. A lot of our revivals that gave birth to America were inspired also from great Scottish theologians and other things. So we love, we love that part of the world and we will pray for it. And please, one more time, where can people follow you and get involved? Yeah.

[Pastor John Ahern]

All nations, ie. Yeah, that's if you type in that to Facebook, Instagram or John K. Ahern as well. Yeah, that's, that's it. And just please pray for Ireland. Please pray for Europe. We want to, we're really believing to see a great spiritual awakening.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I have a feeling, I have a feeling Charlie's gonna help you out with that. God bless you, Pastor. We're gonna do our AMA next hour. Members.charliekirk.com we'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The White House is preparing for its latest press briefing. Reporters as you can see from this live shot already in place, waiting for White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt to arrive. We'll of course, dip into her remarks the moment she takes the podium. Many of the questions she'll face will likely revolve around the ongoing government shutdown. But also happening at the White House. Today, President Trump participated in the swearing in ceremony for the new U.S. ambassador to Sweden. Christine Toretti is heading to Scandinavia to represent the Trump administration. This is her second ambassadorship nomination under President Trump. During the first administration, she was selected the ambassador of Malta, but the Senate never confirmed her for that job. Meantime, Congressional Republicans in both the House and Senate are expected to go back to the offensive. Today, the Senate will take a fourth vote to try and get federal employees back to work and federal agencies back up and running more Democrats. Democrats would have to cross the aisle, though, in order to reach the 60 votes needed to reopen the government. If not, Senate Majority Leader John Thune says there likely won't be any additional votes over the weekend, meaning the shutdown will continue into next week. Thursday, House Republicans took their case against what they call a Democrat induced shutdown straight to the court of public opinion.

[Charlie Kirk]

They have made a decision that they would rather give taxpayer funded benefits to illegal aliens than to keep the doors open for the American people to keep vital services, veterans services, health care and nutrition for women, infants and children. They would rather not pay the troops and TSA agents and Border Patrol agents. They would rather stop services of FEMA in the middle of a hurricane season than to do the right thing for partisan political purposes. It is selfish it is reprehensible.

[Terrence Bates]

We'll of course continue to cover all of this for you and keep you updated. While lawmakers on either side of the political aisle are blaming each other for the shutdown, President Trump doing what he's got to do in light of the shutdown, the commander in chief is once again taking aim at Chicago, this time by withholding $2.1 billion in funding for infrastructure projects. The pause reportedly affects a long awaited plan to extend the city's Red Line train. The Director of Management and Budget, Russ Vogt also holding on to $18 billion for infrastructure in New York, including funding for a new rail tunnel under the Hudson River. Many of the funding cuts are specific to Democrat run cities. In light of what the White House calls the Schumer shutdown, the implication is that New York Democrat Senator and Senate Minority Leader, excuse me, Chuck Schumer is responsible for orchestrating the current government funding beef. Police in Manchester, England are calling Thursday's deadly attack at a synagogue an act of terror. At least two people are dead, three others hurt. Investigators confirm the suspect plowed into a crowd of worshipers with a car and then went on a stabbing spree. All of this happened on Yom Kippur, which is the holiest day of the Jewish calendar. The guy was eventually shot and killed. We now know he was a 35 year old British citizen who immigrated to England from Syria as a young child. At least three other people are also in custody this morning on suspicion of acts of terrorism charges all related to that attack. So far, investigators haven't released a motive. Meantime, Jewish watchdog groups in the UK Report that anti Semitic incidents have increased significantly since the October 7th attack in Israel some two years ago. Well, rap group A Tribe Called Quest famously lost a wallet in El Segundo. And now the city is once again being talked about thanks to this massive fire at a Chevron plant. Officials in El Segundo say there's no immediate threat to the public safety. Plus no injuries are being reported and no evacuations were ordered. The blaze was reportedly contained to just one section of the refinery. As you see can can see from this distant shot. So far, no word on what sparked the blaze, but officials do say it all popped up pretty suddenly. Once again, we're monitoring the White House right now where White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is scheduled to be hosting a press conference at any moment now. This White House press briefing will likely focus very much on the ongoing government shutdown. The moment you she takes the podium again, we'll take you there Live so you can hear her remarks. For now, let's get you back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back. Hour two of the Charlie Kirk show on an Ask Me Anything Friday. It's an Ask Me Anything. Ask we anything. Yeah. So we've got Mikey McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff. Absolute roundabout, good man, and apparently a rising star. Mikey McCoy. People love your infectious laugh. Yeah, I'll take the ladies. Love it. The real McCoy was the title I think we settled on. I think I'm Admiral Andrew. Admiral Andrew. Real McCoy. Blake GPT. Yeah, yeah, whatever.

[Blake Neff]

Or whatever. Just like Spock, you know, Captain Kirk would get all worked up, and then I'd be like, that's most illogical.

[Charlie Kirk]

Literally do one of these things. Most illogical. Yeah. I see. Alexis says, I'm seeing Muslims all over Michigan. They're now allowing prayer in the middle of the street midday. Are they here legally? I have no idea. Some of them probably are. A lot of them are these. Refugee status. Savannah Hernandez with Turning Point Frontlines did a amazing piece on the Somalis in Minnesota, and most of them get government benefits because they're here on some sort of temporary protected status. Tons. But they just keep getting extended. Extended. A lot of these will be chain migration. Alexis, you said, hey, can I get a response on my email? And so the answer is yes, I see you. And you've seen. Yeah, it's a huge problem. I mean, I don't know. We currently apparently do not have the political will or desire to deal with it. And on some level, I understand the administration is trying to tackle a huge illegal immigrant problem, but the chain migration, legal immigration, needs to be reformed just as urgently, in my opinion. So, yeah, we do have. So if you want to be a part of our members ask Me anything, our Ask Ask we anything hour. Just join members.charlie kirk.com. we could put that URL on the lower if we can. Members.charlie kirk.Com. please join our our Members program. It's still going, still active, and you guys are really the bedrock and the backbone of this show. So first question. Anthony is first. Anthony, can you hear me? Yeah. Can you hear me, Andrew? Yes, absolutely. Hey, Anthony, welcome to the show. How you doing? Thanks, guys. All right, so got to ask this, Andrew, I know you're a Dodger fan, so it's okay, but where does the office stand with pulling for the Cubs? Where's Dan? I know you. I know. I know Andrew stands a point for the dod.

[Blake Neff]

Get him in.

[Charlie Kirk]

I will. For Charlie. I will. I will be ecstatic. Where's the Cubs win while we wait for Danny.

[Blake Neff]

I'm a Twins fan. For those who don't follow baseball, the Twins are a smoldering creature of a franchise. They're doomed forever. They will never be good again.

[Charlie Kirk]

That on. On air. What? You're a Twins? Yeah. What? It's not even your state. You're a Twinkie.

[Blake Neff]

They're next door. All right, Someone find it anyway. They're going to be terrible forever. They'll never, ever be good again. So I'm kind of just going into this, like, curtain hibernation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Come on, get in here. Danny.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

Get over here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Get over here, Danny.

[Blake Neff]

Talking to my mic. Talking to my mic.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right here. Just right here. Just talking to mic.

[Blake Neff]

You can lean in, whatever, wherever you want to go. You don't need to plug in.

[Charlie Kirk]

So. So, Danny, come over here. You got this. So Danny is from the same part of the world, roughly as Charlie. But Charlie and Danny would talk sports a lot. Big time.

[Blake Neff]

Danny is an Ohio State fan, which is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, that's sad. The number one team in the country.

[Tyler O'Neill]

National champs.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're gonna run it back this year. Except for the Ducks are gonn. Now I'm a Ducks fan, which is saying something because I'm actually a UW Husky, which. Those are our. We had an expression that rhymes with ducks that involved the name of that school. And I'm putting all this. Putting all this aside to root for Char for Charlie. Last night, we were watching the Rams 49ers game, and Elizabeth goes, since when.

[Blake Neff]

Are you, like, a sports fan?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's like, you can blame Danny and Charlie. I didn't care about sports. Now I'm a Ducks fan and a cuz fan because of this guy. So tell the audience what Charlie would submit the. The. The audience or our office to when a Cubs game was bringing a chair. Okay, here we go. Okay, here we go. You can lift it up, too. Yeah, there we go. Here we go. Yeah. I felt a little weird just leaning over. Appreciate it. All right, so how many games did. Were visible inside the. The Charlie Kirk show office of almost every day game?

[Tyler O'Neill]

Yeah, we were in the office and.

[Charlie Kirk]

The cops were playing. The game was on. Yeah. And there's. There's a time difference, too. So you would. If they were playing east coast or Central time, Central time, two hour difference. You would catch it. It'd work out. I mean, one of my last memories of Charlie in the office actually was just watching the Cubs play. Oh, really? Yeah, because we all went to. We went. We went to the wrigley we went to Wrigley Field together just a few weeks before Charlie passed. And, I mean, it was a really special moment. We walked the field, hung out with the players. Like, a couple of those images went viral. Yep. Because I guess it was, like, controversial that they took a picture with Charlie. And one of the players, Michael Bush, who took a picture with Charlie, hit. Yeah. Big home run last night. Last night. And by the way, I'm not even a Cubs fan. Anthony. But I am this year. Okay. And if they won, it's. It's okay. I know you're a Dodger fan. I am everything. Listen, I want them to get to the NLCS together, and I want to go seven, and I want. I want Matt shot. Home run.

[Blake Neff]

Will he hit it off Ohtani, though. What if that happens?

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm so okay with that. No, it's gonna be. It's. It'll be Cubs and Phillies in the nlcs. Phillies taking it. And there's a reason. The Phillies taking it. Yes. Here. My reason. Hold on. I know the shortstop on the Cubs and the Phillies and the DH on the Phillies personally. So if Danny, you should know who the Cubs shortstop is. I have a picture of him in my face. You know him. I can't hear. Dansby Swanson. Oh, who's.

[Blake Neff]

Sorry.

[Charlie Kirk]

Sorry. That's not connected.

[Blake Neff]

Who's the Cub shortstop?

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, Dance B. Swanson. See, he knows it. Yeah. So then the Philly shortstop is Trey Turner, and then the DH is Kyle Schwaber. Happened that. I know all three of them. So are you a sports guy? Like, are you. Is this your. So I. I worked in the NHL and the NBA, and I currently work in college athletics as consultants handling marketing communications. But I traveled three college World Series, and I had all those athletes in Omaha, so that's how I know him personally. And then I had Trey Turner's best friend growing up on one of my.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

College summer baseball teams.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, listen, Trey Turner used to be a Dodger, but then I think he got recruited by Bryce Harper to the Phillies. So, anyways, Phillies have a great team. I'm just glad Jack Posobuk is not here, because he would be, like, all hooping and hollering about the Phillies and. No, thank you. Anyways, God bless you, Anthony. I think it's safe to say the office is pulling for the Cubbies. Even me. Okay, so all for Charlie this year. It's all about Charlie. Yeah. Throw, throw. Cut three, 367. Up there. This was cool. The Cubs actually did this for. Maybe we don't have it if we. Here, I'm gonna. I'm gonna send it to you. Yeah, there you go. 367. This is a picture and it's 1776. Kirk. Kirk. It was. They made jersey. That's nice. Charlie and Erica. And together it was 1776. There's one more photo that's online. Didn't he run the scoreboard or something? Yes, he did. Yeah, that's right. That's interesting. I haven't seen that picture, but I remember when they were like, hey, do you want to go up with him? And Charlie was like, no, I'm taking Erica. I was like, totally cool. So, yeah, that was great. Thanks, Anthony. Next question.

[Blake Neff]

Elizabeth.

[Charlie Kirk]

Elizabeth, next. Can you hear? Hear us, Elizabeth. Hi. I can hear you.

[Caller/Listener]

How are you today?

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm. I'm well, thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

We've been praying for all of you guys. You've been doing such a great job.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

I was a full time listener and before what happened to Charlie happened to Charlie. Except for Mikey, I knew all of you were. And I knew how much Charlie loved, respected all of you and you were going to do such an amazing job continuing his legacy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much.

[Caller/Listener]

Which led me to the Charlie problem, which is we're all trying to get back to Christ and Bible study. And I went on to Christianbook.com to get a Bible with a larger font size because I'm a little bit older. And it led me down a rabbit hole. And so there were all these sections for like Apologetics, Calvinist. There was like all this. What's between apologetics and Calvinist? And how do you decide which way to go? And don't worry, I found an actual Bible study I'm going to be going to with a great church. Who, by the way, he did a Charlie Crick memorial. He had a bunch of threats. We had so many police there. And he stood his ground. You guys would love him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Amazing. I really do love that story. I will say so you're comparing apologetics, which is the defense of the Christian faith, and Calvinism, which is a particular stream of Protestantism, you know, which is sort of known by the tulip, if you will. The five points of Calvinism, which is total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints. Those are the five points of Calvinism. Even a lot of Calvinists are not five point Calvinists. They're like three point Calvinists. Or they'll say four point Calvinists. Let's keep Going through the breaks really quick. We're not done with the answer, but we gotta do a radio break. We'll keep going. Hang tight. Right Is the. Is the Greek, and that means turning around, means saying sorry and turning in the other direction. So I always think of it as you're marching straight to hell. Jesus stops you on the way. Metanoia. You turn around, you say sorry, and you march the other direction. You go towards heaven, and God wants what's best for you. God bless you, by the way. And I just love that, you know, have you already noticed just God speaking to you and. And. And is your life changing?

[Caller/Listener]

I actually kind of felt. And I don't want to be, like, supernatural, but I tell you, I felt like Charlie sent me there because it was a memorial for Charlie, and he was always talking to. I used to love your faith and freedom nights. That were my favorite. My favorite thing that he could do. And the pastor summits were so great. Find a brave pastor. I used to have a brave pastor. And my old church, I don't want to go into it, but they went into allowing gay marriage, and then they fired my pastor because she wouldn't do gay marriage. So I've been with at a church for 10 years, and now the church that I was baptized.

[Blake Neff]

So many stories like that. It's so bad.

[Caller/Listener]

I was baptized by my grandfather in my old church. So I've been meandering around trying to find a good church. And also, I wasn't the best at Bible study. It was always kind of. You need somebody who knows it. Right?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a lot.

[Caller/Listener]

It's a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. But this church is.

[Caller/Listener]

It was founded in 1750. He's a very brave pastor. He spoke about the trans insanity. He got death threats when he wanted to do the memorial for Charlie. He stood firm on that. There were a lot of police there. He's a brave man. He's a great pastor. And I just sort of felt like, Pastor Hasselback.

[Charlie Kirk]

Great. Thank you. What part of the country he's.

[Caller/Listener]

Rockland County, New York.

[Charlie Kirk]

God bless him. He passed the test. All right, go ahead, Blake.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. So I feel like I could go there, and I'm not gonna, like, be horrified what happens 10 years later, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was very hard to lose my first church. Very hard.

[Blake Neff]

I was thinking how tough that is. Like, my grandparents who've passed since, you know, they're. They. They were ELCA Lutherans. That church embraced gay marriage, everything else. So they had to leave, but they were leaving A church. They had personally helped build the building.

[Charlie Kirk]

It is.

[Blake Neff]

And there's so many little tragedies like that that have happened across American Christianity.

[Charlie Kirk]

Elizabeth, God bless you. We're going to take the next question when we. Welcome back radio. Don't go anywhere. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett here, executive producer of this fine show where we remember Charlie and we heap contempt and shame on those who choose to lie about him. Can I get that, Shame? I think we got a little sound effect for this. Nope, not that.

[Blake Neff]

Not Layla again.

[Charlie Kirk]

Shame.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, no.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, yeah, we'll get the sound effects.

[Blake Neff]

We'll probably be doing this on other things and not necessarily always Charlie stuff, but we had to lead off with this. We were debating who we would hit this week, and then I saw this in my email this morning, and I.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was like, we gotta hit it.

[Blake Neff]

This is the target. So Thomas Chatterton Williams is this very aggravatingly centrist writer. He, like, I think he lives in a castle in Europe or something. And. Yeah, and memorably last. Literally just last week, he wrote in response to the Charlie Memorial, this tweet that was essentially I. You know, I've lived in multiple different countries, but I've never felt as alienated as I did by this because I had no understanding the same guy. Same guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh.

[Blake Neff]

Now this week in the Atlantic yesterday, he has this article titled the Other Martyr. Maga has found It's George Floyd. And so he's. He's tweeting about this and quoting all of this.

[Charlie Kirk]

And.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, so that's the article. I think we have a photo of him too, if you want to show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we've got a bunch of images of this guy.

[Blake Neff]

He's like, for many. So I'll just read a quote from this. For many on the left, Floyd's asphyxiation turned a flawed and desperate man into a Christ figure, someone who bore the weight of the world's failings and in so doing, cleared a path to fix them. In the feverish weeks since Charlie Kirk's assassination, the magarite is undergoing its own religious ferment, animated by a new martyr. Just as the left used Floyd's death to justify and hasten all manner of political ends, the right is invoking Kirk's name to advance illiberal aims and silence opponents. All right, I've got, let's see, four minutes here. I'm just gonna blow this guy up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Shame. Em.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Shame. First of all, there it is.

[Blake Neff]

Shame, shame.

[Charlie Kirk]

Shame.

[Blake Neff]

So. But let's just Be real here. So, first of all, if we're just going to compare these two, I think you can judge. Yeah, I think you can to some extent judge factions by who they decide to make into heroes. So let's compare.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Blake Neff]

The life stories here between Charlie Kirk and George Floyd.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. So just coffee. How George Floyd.

[Blake Neff]

George Floyd was essentially a career criminal. He participated in a robbery where he held a gun to a woman's stomach.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Blake Neff]

He was having an account. He was repeatedly involved in drugs. He has an encounter with a police officer that ends his life because he's trying to pass a fake $20 bill at a gas station.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can I just pause right there? Two of the people that George Floyd was with that day did not freak out, and they are alive today. And just for the record.

[Blake Neff]

And just. But he is attempting to commit counterfeiting. A police officer comes in. It's not unclear, but it seems very likely. He basically swallowed a large amount of drugs he was afraid he would be caught with. He freaks out in the back of a car, which causes him to be restrained. He dies of this, basically from a drug overdose. And that is the sum of George Floyd's life, essentially. Well, also, let's compare that. Yeah. So I guess if you want to find similarities between them, you could say, you know, George Floyd, like, you know, committed armed robbery against an innocent person. And Charlie never committed armed robbery against an innocent person. So they're kind of. They're unified by this theme of robbery. That one committed it and the other did not. And, you know, he. I think he had a. You know, I don't believe he was married to the mother. He had a child, I believe.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. Charlie. That's what I'm.

[Blake Neff]

Charlie did marry a woman and then had children with her, who. And he remained loyal to her and was a loving husband and was a. Frankly, like, lived a model life for others to imitate. If you were to imitate Charlie's life, you will be happy and successful and have a great family. If you were to imitate George Floyd's life, you will probably die at a young age.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just so you're aware, he was 46 and a father of five children. So.

[Blake Neff]

Alrighty. But, like, let's go beyond that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Blake Neff]

Let's. Let's also compare it. The Floyd and the Charlie Kirk. Moments after Charlie, we had zero riots. We had zero giant mobs, like, trying to torch big cities. We had zero people, like, trying to do a revelation. We had zero statues with zero statues toppled. Whereas with Floyd, we have riots in D.C. we have riots In Minneapolis, we have riots. We have follow on riots in Kenosha and everywhere else that are basically inspired by this with, you know, some new case to justify it. We have an entire summer of Floyd with one riot after another. We have literally thousands of businesses burned, looted. We have them trying to put up this, you know, we support blm. Please don't burn us. Burned down anyway. We had a police station broken into by antifa in Minneapolis and burned to the ground while the authorities of Minneapolis ran and hid. We didn't have any of that for Charlie. We had a big rally in a stadium to memorialize him. I don't rallies longer. We had a big memorial in a stadium that was like a revival in which all the people who were there as security said, wow, nothing bad happened, nobody was arrested, no problems. It was the cleanest event they'd ever run.

[Charlie Kirk]

A total in which Erica, his widow, forgave the murderer. The. The most incredible act of Christian charity and forgiveness you will ever see in a public setting.

[Blake Neff]

So, yeah, actually, I'll give you this. If you want to call this our George Floyd, I'll take that because I'll take that comparison every day. Let's make that comparison.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll be right back. Go off, Blake. Go off, Blake. And to this, to this writer. What's his name again? What's his name again?

[Blake Neff]

Thomas Chatterton Williams.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really annoying.

[Blake Neff]

Williams.

[Charlie Kirk]

I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. That's how I feel. All right. Shame, shame. All right, all right, let's. Yeah, let's take another caller. Let's take Greg. Greg, can you hear us? Guys? What's going on? We just, we're letting Blake, you know, we all grieve in our own ways, I think, you know, Blake, go off. So that's how we're doing. We're all in that mode right now. Greg, what's your question? Just real quick, just wanted to thank you guys for everything you guys do. I mean, Charlie was one of one and you know, Grand Canyon void to fill. But you guys are doing an incredible job, I just want to say that. But real quick on immigration. So just wanted to get your take on it. I'm Polish. I'm from Poland originally. Came here in 95, you know, got my green card, went through the whole ordeal process. Now I'm a US citizen. So it's, you know, it's really infuriating what's going on with this whole immigration and I don't know, like, what is the percentage of people like myself, I'm Hoping it's bigger than just very small, but that are infuriated by all the. All this illegal stuff and, you know, just the Democrats just being, you know, throwing all these privileges and rights at them. And. And here I am like, just go through the process, like, and it's kind of infuriating to see all that happen.

[Blake Neff]

It's profoundly insulting is what it is, Greg, because it's worse than just that you went through the process and other people are getting in without doing the process. We make it easier and better for the individuals who are violating the process, where if you just show up at our border illegally, you can do some cheat code to get temporary protected status or you're an asylum seeker, and then you're eligible for way more stuff often than a person who actually comes here legally is. In terms of programs, you get a fast track to all sorts of stuff. Whereas if you're trying to come here legally as like a high skilled person, there's so many hoops you have to jump through. It's so difficult for everyone to hire you or do all of this. And it is profoundly insulting. And I think it's something that is really underrated because the claim is always that anyone who came here as an immigrant is going to be angry if we restrict immigration in any way. But I think you're a testament to the fact that no, a person who follows the law, a person who actually admires what made America great and came here for that, is going to be very angry at, you know, a faction that just treats America as a giant pile of, like, money to be looted by the rest of the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. By the way, I will like to take just a tiny modicum of credit for helping turning Charlie into Bay City immigration dude, because this is like my huge issue. And Charlie grew up kind of in a Chicago place, you know, the city of Chicago, it was losing population. So he's like, hey, we need more productive people to come. So that was kind of his base programming. And then he moved to Arizona. He's like, oh, hold on, hold on. This is getting out of hand. So I just want to say that I completely agree with you. And I would also like to say as well that for young people, immigration is a total. Like, they are the ones getting screwed over the most. Because what happens is we bring in all these H1Bs, which are technically legal, but it's a scam system. But we also bring in all these illegals that will work the hotel jobs and the restaurant jobs and the cook books and all this stuff, and Those were the jobs generations prior that were largely taken by high school kids that would be the entryway into a career. Maybe they would start their own restaurant someday, maybe they would start their own hotel someday. But they never got started. They end up getting sucked down some pathway on the Internet or some Discord channel or some Reddit thread. And this is, you know, this is what's happening to a whole generation. So we believe that you need to stop. Stop this. Americans need to get the jobs, immigrants need to go home, and we need to dramatically reform and curtail our legal immigration system so that only people like you are getting through. I saw this meme, by the way, because Rahim Kassam is a friend of the show the National Pulse as well. Great, great website. You need to check it out. TheNationalPulse.com and the meme was like, can Raheem Kassam just be the final arbiter on who gets in and who doesn't? I was like, that would be great, because Raheem is a good quality addition to the United States of America. He's a patriot. He came to the memorial, did a whole video about it, was beautiful. But the point is, there are good immigrants. But we are so fed up in this country with getting the system gamed and having our people screwed over in the process. It's a breakdown of the social compact because as a nation, we owe it to our own people to make sure they're taken. Taken care of first. And until somebody in Washington or something tank can prove to me that our people are taken care of, then I'm with Charlie Kirk on this. I'll take an immigration moratorium as far as I'm concerned. But I still like that people like you got in so little. Creed right there. Keep it going. Keep it going. Yeah. You know, so this is funny. There's a whole move. I mean, I'm telling you, things are coming out of the woodwork. I don't know that Blake is on board with this. There's a whole move of people that really want us to have a halftime show, counter programming. I'm not kidding. There's people putting up real opportunities. So I would love to hear. Email us freedom. Charliekirk.com do you think Turning Point should be involved in some sort of concert? Maybe with Creed? Yeah, maybe. I keep saying Forestry this.

[Blake Neff]

I don't know.

[Charlie Kirk]

Zach Brown. Creed would be into this. I'm pretty sure the lead singer would be. I don't know. I'm hearing that the band might not be available, but the Lead singer. Might be some. Somehow there's like a. I'm not exactly sure. We could do Taylor Swift. Michael Caboose. Only if Nickelback can be there too. Sorry, Michael Cabiz. Anyways, next question. Here we have Jill. Jill, are you there? Unmute yourself, Jill. I'm gonna have to get the shirt. I am unmuting myself. There you are, Jill. We can hear you. Hey, great. Hey. We are in Missouri and we have a bunch of adults that want to.

[Tyler O'Neill]

Get involved, like the kids.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is there anything you can do to.

[Caller/Listener]

Help us get started?

[Charlie Kirk]

So I thought about this. I've been thinking about this a lot and I actually think that we probably need to do something on the action side. So we already have an adult group and it's called Turning Point Action. And that is. You're talking about, you know, you're upset. Daisy gives me a little like preview, by the way. So here. So something they're passing, you know, you have politicians that are passing liberal laws, liberal agenda items. Absolutely. That would be a very political thing. And so we already have an adult or at least something that adults can get involved in. We have a lot of young people also involved in that. But Turning Point Action is our. Is the 501C4. So whereas turning point USA is the C3. We don't do RNC stuff. We don't do candidate stuff. It's just conservative ideas, American pro American ideas on college campuses, high school campuses. Because the C4 endorses candidates. The C4 goes and knocks doors. The C4 has an app and you can get out there and send letters, you can send postcards, you can do all those types of things through the app. So what we probably need to do is we just need to have like state chapters or something or like chapters for Turning Point Action where people can get involved in the grassroots. Because right now, you know, we launched it in earnest ahead of the 2024 election. And that was a get out the vote campaign. Really. That was the. There was, it does more. There's like again, we have a scorecard, we rate candidates, we rate elected members of Congress in the Senate, things like that. But it sounds like we need, we need to maybe ramp that up a little bit because we could create a standing army with chapters in these different states and maybe there's local chapters. I don't know where in Missouri you are, but we could do something like that. But kind of we already have what you're talking about. And you know, obviously we have our national events. AM Fest is an all ages event. So we'll have, let's say, five, six, seven, 8,000 students. I have no idea what it's going to be this year. I think we had, like, 7,000 last year, but. But beyond the 7,000 young people you had, we had 21,000 people in Phoenix. This year is going to be much bigger, just simply because there's just so much more attention. But they're. You know, you can go to those, too. And there's a whole bunch of TP action programming that's also a part of amfest. We do breakout sessions. Tyler does a great job. The whole action team does a great job there. So. So that would be my answer. Is that satisfactory to you, Jill, or are you. That's very helpful. What we're looking for, really, is the.

[Caller/Listener]

Structure to build a club underneath.

[Charlie Kirk]

At the state level, we were part of a Republican club called the Pachyderm Club.

[Caller/Listener]

It was not very satisfactory.

[Charlie Kirk]

Last year, our club raised $25,000.

[Caller/Listener]

All of that's going to sponsor kids to Amfest and the other TPUSA events. We have so far 12 people coming this year.

[Charlie Kirk]

Great.

[Caller/Listener]

And we sent.

[Tyler O'Neill]

We sent seven girls to Dallas and.

[Charlie Kirk]

One kid to Tampa. Fantastic. Fantastic. So we are.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And actually, Riley Gaines was our speaker at our event, so we are. We are totally all in. We just need some structure to help us. I was gonna say. So I'm gonna pitch this idea to Tyler. Obviously, we're drinking. We're all drinking through a fire hose right now. You can. You can't imagine. It's like every day people are contacting us about something else. But this is. This is actually something at a grassroots level that feels core to the mission and something we could say yes to. So we have coalition teams and maybe that's the way to do this. But, yeah, I think there's just so much need and desire out there. Thank you, Jill, for the idea. I will give an update if there's an update to be had because I agree with you. So thank you for your call and thank you for being a member. Members.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk.Com you can join. Help keep the lights on. You know, the future is less certain, but we are going to keep going. And you [e-mail] help us move into the future with confidence. We just love you guys and thank you so much. So next caller is Kelsey. Kelsey. It sounds like you have a T. Swift question, so if you are there, please let us know your question.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, I do have a Taylor Swift question. But I'm not a swifty.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fair enough. Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

So her new album just dropped, right? And on her track wish list, she essentially states that people want to get rich and have things or experiences, but she just wants her man. And she has a line in it that says, I just want. You have a couple kids, got the whole block looking like you. Charlie talked about getting married and having kids and even shared that he wanted that for Taylor when her engagement news came out. And I like to think that Charlie, given his. His general dislike or maybe neutrality towards her, would really love that line and would just like your guys thoughts on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I'll chime in first, you guys feel free to fill in the blanks here. But Charlie. One of the last sort of, if you will, controversies that Charlie was in was when he just said, taylor, I hope this makes you more conservative and I hope you get married, you have lots of babies. And then he said, he said, but if you don't take his last name, you don't really mean it. Yeah. And so.

[Blake Neff]

Which I still believe.

[Charlie Kirk]

I still believe too. He was actually. It's funny because he took all this heat for it, but he was. And I remember Laura Ingram asked him about it. Our Taylor Swift experts.

[Blake Neff]

Get her in the chair.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. And by the way, you're gonna have to give a baby update, Daisy as well. But Charlie actually, actually, actually in private group chat form where it's, you know, like people don't believe he was actually really happy about it. He's like, this is good. He wanted young people to look at her and see the example of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, disagreements aside, and said, I hope that they will follow in her footsteps. But just earlier, don't wait till you're like 34. 34. How old is she now?

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

30, 36, I think.

[Charlie Kirk]

But so just, you know, maybe, maybe change the three to a two and do it then.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

35. 35, turning 36 this year.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

But I will say.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, so hi.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

Hi, everyone.

[Charlie Kirk]

How's the baby? Great. Sorry, are you naming your baby Taylor Swift?

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

No, no. Blake actually thinks I should name my baby. First name turning, middle name Point.

[Charlie Kirk]

But that could work.

[Blake Neff]

Last name Baby.

[Charlie Kirk]

This turning off. How about Charlie Point Baby?

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

But okay, I will say because we've had this conversation with Charlie before where he's like, I just wish that I'm glad she's settling down. I wish she had done it sooner. And Emma and I have told him every time she. All of her last albums, if you listen to them, she was in a relationship for like Six years. And every song she's like, I want to get married. I want to have children. This person, kind of. Her last album was like, he blindsided me. He did not want these things that he said he wanted. So then I think that happens to a lot of women. Where then they end up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it does.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

32 or 33, 34.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. Men, do not waste women's time. My admonition to you men in the audience, get in and get out if, you know, you don't want to keep going. Do not linger on. Do not waste her time. That goes both ways, by the way. But that. I have seen that particular. That particular dynamic play out so many times.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

I mean, even I remember we talked about this, you, me and Charlie, when her last album came out. And that was right after the breakup. And she said, I'm. I'm mad essentially that you let me give you all that youth for free, like just feeding me all these lies to keep giving that to you. So now I'm. I'm really happy for her.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie was happy for her. That's also on the woman, though, because I'm telling you, if a man wants to marry you, what. What do you think the approach. Okay, question for the audience. I'd love to. Freedom. Charliekirk.com Tell me what you think. If you are a woman or a man who wants to get married to your boyfriend or girlfriend, at what point do you say, if you're not going to commit to me, I'm done. I'm moving on. I love you and I want this to work, but if you're not going to commit to me, I gotta. I gotta cut this off. At what point do you. Because it wasn't she with him for like four years?

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that's way too long. Yeah, that's way too long.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

A long time. I.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that's on her.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

I went on my first date. Also, if the caller's talking, I can't hear, so someone.

[Caller/Listener]

I'll.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'll translate for you. Don't worry.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

I went on my first date with my husband when I was 19.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

And essentially on our first day, I was like, either we are going to be exclusive and be in a relationship, or I'm not interested in dating you or really being your friend. And then he was like, oh, my gosh. Okay, we're. We're gonna be together now. And so it works when girls date.

[Charlie Kirk]

Major intentions known. And the other thing, too. Instantly called those four other girls and told them, no, I'm just kidding.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

Luke, if you're listening.

[Charlie Kirk]

The other thing, too is, you know, a lot of young Christian people save themselves from marriage. And so dating. And when you're engaged, that's a common.

[Blake Neff]

Weapon that worked historically.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, Elizabeth and I, our case, you know, we want to. We wanted to get it done. We wanted to get married quick. That does tend to incentivize getting married. So. Yeah, it's your point. It's a very advanced form of societal text. Yeah. Monogamy.

[Blake Neff]

And last conversation we have with Charlie, why is monogamy good? And why is traditional European Christian monogamy great?

[Charlie Kirk]

This is crazy.

[Blake Neff]

It's actually insane when you look at how much better it is than alternatives. And you look at societies that don't have it and, like, the men and women hate each other. You look at our society where men and women have way more conflict than they did in the past. The Christian view of marriage is actually so great for curbing the worst impulses of both men and women and making them work together as partners. You don't have men stringing along women. You don't have them victimizing women or preying on them women. You don't have them, like, constantly trying to upgrade to a higher status guy. Polygamy.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're right. And here. Here is 156. This was Charlie talking about T. Swift getting married. 156.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative, engage in reality more, and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge. And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.

[Charlie Kirk]

I can't wait.

[Charlie Kirk (Clip)]

Say it without laughing. You got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it. Congratulations, Taylor.

[Charlie Kirk]

He meant that. All right, Daisy. Yes.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

Okay. I just want to say back to our caller, Kelsey, your question. Emma K. Was texting me about the album last night, and she was like, I wish that Charlie we could tell him about this song because I have the lyrics pulled up here. But she's like, everyone wants to go on spring break. They want dogs that they can call their kids. They want a yacht. They want an Oscar. And she literally says, I just want you. A bunch of kids dreaming about the driveway with a basketball hoop. Settle down. Got a wish list. I just want you. And we were proven Charlie's prophetic.

[Blake Neff]

Are you gonna read the lyrics to the woods song now?

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

No, I'm okay. I don't even think I've listened to it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I do want to just ask the caller, how do you feel that your first name is going to be Taylor Swift's last name.

[Caller/Listener]

I've thought about that, and I'm a little uncomfortable, but our name is spelled differently, so there you go.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. All right. Hey, we have to wrap this segment. That was a. That was a fun one. We got Mary next, so if that's you, don't go anywhere. We're going to take your question next. Y R E F y dot com. Check out why refi right now. All right, so we. We've had just a really. This hour just flies by every time we. Are we done with Shames? Do it like, just one shame this hour, right? I don't know.

[Blake Neff]

Blake, do you want to do another Shame more?

[Charlie Kirk]

It would be fun. Two minutes to Shames. Do you want.

[Blake Neff]

Do you have one you want to hit?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, you don't. The JB Prince people don't like it when we talk about Don Lamond. By the way, I saw your email.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, man. Which one would we want to go after here?

[Charlie Kirk]

There's something.

[Blake Neff]

There are way too many.

[Charlie Kirk]

Look at this. Yes. On a Creed concert at halftime, 1 million times. Yes. Have Creed. Any rock 90s Christian band that hasn't sold out, and yes, do it. The whole USA would support you. You have the opportunity to ratio the stupid halftime show and reveal the heart of the nation. Do it. That's from Aaron. I love that. Should we do an Elon Omar shaming?

[Blake Neff]

Oh, we could do that one. Yeah, let's do that one.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have a clip.

[Blake Neff]

Let's do 138.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. 138. Sh. Yeah, shame. 138.

[Pastor John Ahern]

Shame.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so the idea that this is a white nation that needs to be.

[Blake Neff]

Preserved is a fascinatingly disgusting view, because.

[Charlie Kirk]

This country is one for the many.

[Blake Neff]

It's one for the many. It's one for everyone on planet Earth, including Ilhan Omar and her dad, who, like, worked for, like, a dictatorship in Somalia that got overthrown so that they can come here and she can marry her brother, which I'm just gonna say, because it's 100% true.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And if she thinks it's not true, like, you know, please sue me, Ilhan Omar, because I'm pretty sure it's true and it should be investigated to basically commit immigration fraud, steal a bunch of money. Like, what a disaster. Like, it's so bad what's happening in America where you can have a lawmaker come in and say, I look out for the interests of Somalia first. And there's not really anything we can do about this because she now is in the government. She is controlling the lever that would do what we should do, which is deport her back to Somalia.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is there a way to denaturalize you can.

[Blake Neff]

If you did crimes or fraud while getting your immigration, like, while getting your citizenship.

[Charlie Kirk]

That feels specific and relevant to this particular conversation. Shame, shame. Shame on Elhan. Shame. We'll be right back. Back. Maybe we should add Switchfoot to the house. I think we should. I mean, that. That song still kicks. Yeah, it does. I have to tell you about Hillsdale College. I don't have to. I get to. We love them and Charlie loved them. History, economics, the great works of literature. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. But even if you did, maybe it's time for an enjoyable refresher course. Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses. I'm going to be working on them this weekend, actually, including their newest course on totalitarian novels. In this free eight lecture course, you'll learn from Hillsdale College president Larry Arne as he goes in depth on 1984, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon, and that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels were written in the 1930s and 40s, they are highly relevant today as they show what a tyrannical government does to human nature. More importantly, they show us that faith, family and friends and country are worth fighting for. Maybe you read these books a long time ago. Maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem a little intimidating. Let Hillsdale College help you make the most of them. Go right now to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's charlieforhillsdale.com to register C H A R L I E4 hillsdale.com and learn from one of the greats, Dr. Larry Arn. Our next caller here. Where are we at? Here we have Mary. Mary, are you there? We are ready for your question?

[Caller/Listener]

I am. Hi, guys. Sorry about the background noise. We are traveling at the moment.

[Charlie Kirk]

You're fine.

[Caller/Listener]

But I want to say, you guys, I am so impressed with how you guys are carrying on the show. It's still surreal, you know, to us that, you know, Charlie's gone, but it feels like he's still here. Erica has been such a source of just power. It's been amazing to watch. But my question, I'm actually curious if you have some advice on, you know, with the current turmoil and division that's going on, what practical role do you think the local church could offer to young people that the digital world can't. That would inspire them to choose faith over fear and actually come back in person to church.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mikey? Yeah, yeah. You're young, you know, church. Yeah, I'm young.

[Blake Neff]

I've seen him in a church before. It's true.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I kind of dabble in all of it. On the weekdays, sometimes maybe I'll go to a mass or something. On the weekends, go to another church, as much Jesus as I can get. But right now, for young people, the biggest thing is like Forest Frank, hearing from Christian artists, going back to church. But then also I'm seeing from messages I'm getting are young people coming to.

[Blake Neff]

Our Turning Point events.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so a lot of them are like, wanting to come to America Fest, wanting to plug in. By the way, we do a Sunday service and worship service at America Fest. Yeah, we do every Sunday. So. And I think there is like this thing, Mary. I've been talking about it a little bit more and more and more, but this, you know, this idea of new wine and new wineskins. Right. You can't put new wine in old wineskins because it will burst. Right. That's the parable that Jesus gives us. And I think God is doing something new with the new generation. So. So don't force what he's doing into an old paradigm, into like the image that you have in your head of what it's supposed to look like. Because there is this. The old way was kind of bifurcating the gospel message and a political message or a cultural message or whatever. I think that God is saying our whole lives have to be integrated. Our patriotism, our faith. You know, they're going to call this like Christian Nationals or something. I'm not saying you need to vote for this candidate or that candidate. It might mean that. It oftentimes probably does mean that, but. But we don't have to make it about that. What we just have to say is don't bifurcate your life. Integrate your faith, just like Charlie did. And I think when it just comes off naturally and you're just honest about what's informing your political views or your cultural views, people respect that. And I think it's a lot more natural. So just, I would just say be open minded. And to Mikey's point, I think it's a great idea. Send them to Amfest. Send him to Amfest. Send them to. Or get him plugged in at local chapter meetings and just, just have community. That's the key. We're going to get to one last question here, Tracy. Who's in Portland. Tracy, what's your question?

[Blake Neff]

60 seconds.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hi there.

[Caller/Listener]

I have 60 seconds to talk, Is that what you're saying?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's a quick one. Sorry. Oh, boy.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I'll fire off the questions.

[Daisy (Co-host or guest)]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm a fourth generation Oregonian. I have two generations that follow me. So I'm old enough to be your moms. And three questions this morning. How do I support Sorter? Nick Sorter, who was arrested and released this morning.

[Charlie Kirk]

This Sunday at 10am Eastern, history sets sail. I'm going to have all folks from the Navy national security experts.

[Blake Neff]

You do not want to miss this.

[Charlie Kirk]

President Donald J. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia, aboard a mighty US Aircraft carrier. Fight, fight, fight.

[Tyler O'Neill]

Win, win, win.

[Charlie Kirk]

As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets, thunderous firepower and the full force of America's sea strength. THON display. Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack Bassovic and Steve Gruber. Real America's Voice brings you this front row seat to freedom in motion. It's not just coverage.

[Caller/Listener]

It's a this is an iHeart podcast.