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And I think it's particularly rich and hypocritical coming from someone like Senator Booker because Senator Booker continues to endorse a man who would be a top law enforcement official in the state who is called for the murder of Republicans and our children. But to your point, Martha, you know, looking at Ole Miss tonight, looking at this amazing show of unity from the vice president and from Erica Kirk and looking at all of the students who are going to come out and support a healthy exchange and a good future for our country. They give me a lot more hope than the Democrats on Capitol Hill do. I remember talking to a friend of mine. I was looking to the future. I was talking about everything that was broken in the world. And I, and I said to him, things are just really, really dark. And he said, and he stopped me in my tracks. He said, J.D. you're right, there are a lot of things that are really dark out there. But despair is a sin. Now, I know not all of you are Christians, but for the Christians out there, I think that it's very important to remember that despair is actually a sin. It's okay to disagree. It's okay to criticize. It's okay to think that things aren't going well with a particular issue. But we are called to never give up hope. But I think one of the critical Lessons of Charlie Kirk's life to his dying breath. This was a man who never lost hope in his creator and never lost hope in the United States of America. So let's remember that and carry that forward as a way to remember. You are the courageous generation. That's what you are. All of you, Gen Z, you are the courageous generation. Hear me when I say that my husband believed that to his core. That's why he went on campuses. That's why he was trying to reach you. You are the courageous generation. Own it. Make him proud. The most important thing about Charlie is that he was a great husband and a great father. Erica told me probably 12 hours after Charlie had been pronounced dead. She was just absolutely devastated. She was unable. You know, if you've ever known anybody who's grieving, sometimes it's unable. They're unable to even hold a single thought for more than a few seconds. And when Erica told me, and I'm gonna get a little emotional, is that she said that Charlie never yelled at her, he never cussed at her. And that, to me, is a great legacy to leave as a husband and a father for your wife to be able to say that my husband was always good to me and Charlie was a good man. Charlie loved the word earn. Earn your voice. This is about your legacy. Each one of you in this room, everyone watching, when you earn your voice and you stand up for what is right, that is a part of your legacy, your family's legacy, just as many much as it is part of Charlie's legacy. Don't forget that. Don't ever forget that. 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I'm Andrew Colvett joined by Blake Neff in studio back here in Phoenix after an amazing, amazing evening in Ole Miss and Oxford, Mississippi. Truly one of the most amazing events that I have ever seen in person to be a part of. Blake, you held down the home fort here yesterday. Great show. I got lots of compliments from people. So well done, well done. Also, I want to do one of those dumb questions with you. We need to have time. A lot of people liked that. What we need to do is we need to have a bunch of turning point kids. Just call in, make it available to them and we'll just do a dumb question and we could turn the tables, do an ask Gen Z where we try to figure out what is six, seven. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, but I mean, just genuinely, I have not had my phone light up like that in a long time. And it was, it was really amazing to be there. Erica Kirk knocked it out of the park with one of the most, I think, morally clear, just inspiring, courageous messages. I mean, we're sort of getting accustomed to her delivering these amazing messages. I mean, what a woman. What a woman. Blake's famous lied. I mean, listen, and then, and then for to have JD come like, here's what blows me away is you do not see politicians do that. You do not see the Vice President of the United States, not in an election year, just get up and take old fashioned. Everyone's so used to politicians being very, so many layers around it. But the old fashioned way of doing things, you know, in the 1800s, you know, everyone's talking about the White House. You used to be able to just walk up and knock on the White House front door and you could ask for a meeting with the President. This is kind of a modern version of that. You know, the vice president is out there, you can get access to him. You can ask him questions. So raw. I mean, like they were asking about, you know, Israel. They were asking about what about your wife's not, she's, she's brown, she's, she's not a Christian. So gutsy to take questions like that. So. And he answered them with such grace and transparency. But like, but yet he was still authoritative. He was on the offense. He never let the question or the questioner put him on sort of like the back heel. He was, he was forward pushing the entire time. It was a triumph and it really was. Charlie would, Charlie would be so proud because he's, he believed in JD From a very early day. And we've seen him, he's always had so much promise, but we've also seen him just get better and better and way better because he's been. And the way you should get better, which is just getting out there fighting every day, getting the experience, getting the reps the same way Charlie did. No, totally. Right. And let's, so let's. Without further ado, let's play some of these clips. Let's start with Erica. Now, you know, you hear about the greatest generation and Erica really wanted to make a point last night that she believes that Gen Z. And by the way, I believe this too. As a millennial, I believe this about you, Gen Z, that you are the courageous generation. My generation is and was sort of like, you know, we're still getting over the Obama hangover or whatever we were. We got really excited about Obama in 2008 and 2012. Gen Z has a chance to be the courageous generation. And she almost like in this prophetic, authoritative tone, she spoke right into the heart of Gen Z and said, you are the courageous generation. Play cut 262. You are the courageous generation. That's what you are. All of you, Gen Z, you are the courageous generation. Hear me when I say that. My husband believed that to his core. That's why he went on campuses. That's why he was trying to reach you. You are the courageous generation. Own it. Make him proud. Yeah. Wow. I mean, you could hear her repeat, repeat, repeat. She, it was almost like she wanted to, to force their hearts to burst open and believe this thing that Charlie believed about them, that they are the courageous generation. That they really can be a turning point. Not to even use the cliche, but like in a real, genuine sense, we're seeing these signs of life from Gen Z that we have not seen in a long time that people didn't believe were possible. And Charlie, by sheer force of will and pure action, action, action, offense, offense, offense went into these college campuses changed the narrative 15 billion social media views later helps get President Trump elected. They were that they are part of the solution. I really believe that. And our job is to keep it going. Erica's job is to keep it going. J.D. vance's job is to keep it going and to earn it. By the way, Blake, you know this. Charlie's favorite word in the English language was earn. And Erica talked about that last night. I don't know if you saw that clip. If not, we can play it. Yeah, she said that a few times. I think, you know, he loved Earn because, you know, you're not entitled to anything. He loves the idea of Charlie lived that out more than anyone. Everything is earned. Everything is worked for, and the most meaningful things are worked for. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, gosh, Charlie. It's funny because, you know, Charlie started off really, really good at a few things. He earned his way to becoming really good at a lot of things. Let's play 261. Charlie loved the word earn. Earn, your voice. This is about your legacy. Each one of you in this room, everyone watching. When you earn your voice and you stand up for what is right, that is a part of your legacy, your family's legacy, just as much as it is part of Charlie's legacy. Don't forget that. Don't ever forget that. Because if there's one thing I've learned, especially being with Charlie for the past seven years, it's that the hope we're looking for is not found in Washington. It's not found in media. It's right here. All of you. This is. This is the hope. This is the hope. The kids in that room, I mean, just to put it in perspective here, by the way, and we are going to get to the JD Clips. But just to put it in perspective, there's about 27,000 students at Ole Miss. 14,000 of them registered for this event. 14,000. That arena held 10,000. So we had over half of the student body at Ole Miss registered to come to this event. We had 10,000 students. There was an additional 13,000. Hear me again. 13,000 adults that we had. Our team worked with the Ole Miss PR department to communicate with them and say, please do not come. It's going to be rainy and you can't get in. You're not going to get in. Please don't come. They came anyways. See this visual of all the people lining up, and it was, like, miles long. And. And so, you know, it's raining, it's soggy. They still lined up even when we Told them you couldn't come. You know, they wanted to see if they get into the standby line. 10,000 people in that arena standing for the entire Erica Kirk speech. They did not sit for the entire speech that Erica gave. And then Erica, of course, brings in J.D. vance, the Vice President, United States. Not an election year. Doesn't have to do this. But he takes the questions anyways. Blake, where should we go first? Yeah, there's so many different things. He answered some of them on pretty tough ones. How about we, you know, let's just do. For example, he took a question on. People have highlighted, you know, since immigration, H1BS. Immigration from India has become an issue. And he just confronted. You know, he is himself married to an Indian woman. So let's play 260. Cool. I am married to the daughter of immigrants who came to the United states in the 1980s. I do believe that some immigrants, many immigrants, do in fact, enrich the United States of America. But here's the problem we have got. We don't even know how many illegal aliens we have. We don't even know. The best guess is probably 25, 30 million people. I've heard estimates as high as 50 million. When something like that happens, you've got to allow your own society to cohere a little bit, to build a sense of common identity for all the newcomers to assimilate, the ones who are going to stay to assimilate into American culture. Until you do that, you've got to be careful about any additional immigration, in my view. Yeah, I mean, he. I love that he went right for it. There was actually Usha played a particularly interesting role in some of the questioning, and we can get to some of that. But. But what stood out to me is that he did not dodge, he did not evade. He answered the question that was asked. He didn't do the PR thing where he, He. He sort of pivoted to what he wanted to talk about. Exactly. Yeah. And I think that came through people blown away by that. And, And I, I would just say people sometimes think that we screen these questions, even when Charlie was up there. We don't screen them. We don't do anything. The only screen. Way too many occasionally awkward moments for it to have been screened. No, exactly. We don't screen any of them. We just say, if you disagree, come to the front of the line. That's it. That's the one rule. So you, I guess you do screen, but you screen for the hardest ones and the ones they try and trip you up with. And J.D. to his credit, he said it on this show when we were at the White House. He said, I want to do what Charlie did. I want to just take questions from the audience. That's how I'm going to honor Charlie. So God bless him for that. More on the other side of this break. We'll be right back. 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It looks, I mean, I don't want to presume she could have been from Bangladesh. She could have been Pakistan, Pakistani. I think she was Indian. I'm not sure she. Let's just say I think so. She asked her pretty. Like you could see she was pretty upset. She basically framed the whole question to JD Being like, listen, you guys made us spend our youth, you made us spend our lives believing in the American dream, and now you're doing all this stuff to hurt us and harm us. She didn't define what that was. So J.D. vance says, listen, we're not here to say that if the government made a deal with you and you're here legally, that we're here to take that away. But that doesn't mean that in the future we're just obligated to continue letting in millions and millions of people. There's no like, oh, we have to have forever let in infinite people. And he went through the history of immigration ebbs and the flows and the, the how we used to do it and how assimilation used to be expected of immigrants. And then this, this girl, I presume she's a student at Ole Miss, she kept asking follow up, follow up questions and then she tries to get him on the fact that he's a Christian. Usha is not a Christian. Yeah, so this is going to be two clips. Two clips, two part, two part answers. Play it consecutively. I think. Yeah, I think we should 285 and then 286. You guys can play them back to back. Yes, my wife did not grow up Christian. I think it's fair to say that she grew up in a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in either direct direction. In fact, when I met my wife, we were both. I would consider myself an agnostic or an atheist. And that's what I think she would have considered herself as. Well, you know, everybody has to come to their own arrangement here. The way that we've come to our arrangement is she's my best friend. We talk to each other about this stuff. So we decided to raise our kids Christian. Our two oldest kids who go to school, they go to a Christian School. Our 8 year old did his first communion about a year ago. That's the way that we have come to our arrangement now. Most Sundays, Usha will come with me to church, as I've told her and I've said publicly and I'll say now in front of 10,000 of my closest friends, do I hope eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly, I do wish that because I believe in the Christian gospel and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way. Blake, what's your takeaway? I mean it just. When was the last time you saw a public figure just talk about their, you know, their families, their personal life? It's a very personal thing to answer a question about. And he really just plunged into it. Gave pretty. Seems to me a very forthright answer. Seems to me too. We're so, we've gotten, it's almost shocking to see just because we've gotten so used to the, you know, the fake thing. And Nancy Pelosi goes up there and is like, as a devout Catholic, I know that, you know, freedom of choice is extremely important. That's our usual, that's the usual engagement we get on religion from people. It's this very, you know, affected piety. And that definitely didn't come off as affected piety to me. It was, it was gutsy. There are going to be people, I imagine, who like take issues with the answer one way or the other. But he just went at it, man. I, I totally agree. It's what a personal. It's personal without 10,000 people watching. If somebody was like, well, you're, yeah, that would be tough dating a non Christian, what you're doing, you know, for him to just do that in front of the world shows a tremendous amount of like self confidence and just self assuredness. And to your point, I mean, I think he's growing and that has grown in that tremendously over the years. And we've watched it and it's really satisfying. I, I just want to keep going with this gal because it seems like most of the articles I've seen from the left that are trying to attack this answer have been about this particular questioner. There was another questioner asked that was dating of foreign visa holders. Visa. Visa holding student. And you know, they're like, J.D. vance says he's gonna deport this kid's girlfriend. It was like not at all what he said. It was so funny. But this, but this Charlie might have said something like that. I know, totally. Charlie was like, well, needs to get deported anyways, let's go ahead and play254. This is talking about how the fact there's too many People, too many immigrants in the country. And we don't owe it to, you know, we actually owe it to Americans to take care of this generation, our people first and foremost. That's his job. And I thought was a great answer. 254. When you talk about too many immigrants here, what is, when did you guys decide that number? You are pushing out policies that hurt us. And these policies are not even solving the problems. These policies are just creating chaos. Okay, so, so again, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna finish answering the question. There's too many people who want to come to the United States of America. And my job as vice president is not to look out for the interests of the whole world. It's to look out for the people of the United States. Now just, I mean, by the way the crowd erupted that you heard it in the clip, but it would like if you were there, it was, it was almost deafening. The moral clarity of saying we're going to keep, we're going to take care of our people first. So refreshing. So refreshing. And you actually heard it articulated in detail in the answers. Yeah. And man, it just feels great that. Think about, you know, we're seeing what Charlie built, which is we could hold an event on a college campus and not, you know, you know, it's not at Hillsdale, it's not at Liberty, it's not at, you know, a handful of schools that we're very used to being supportive of us. It's a big public university campus and we could pack it full of people and have them just applaud at something like that. Yeah. Amen. 1500 people in that chapter, by the way. It's huge. We'll be right back with Mark Halperin. Tired of spills and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe. Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right. Sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slipcovers made with performance fabric Experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. 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We're about to welcome Mark Halperin in in just a second. But before that, I want to tell you about Hillsdale College. We just had the great Larry Arn in the studio. What a, what a great conversation it was with Dr. Arne and had some really, really wise words about organizations like Turning Point. What do you do to keep legacies moving forward, even after the founders? So I, I personally really appreciated that. But I want to tell you about one of their courses, history, economics, the great works of literature. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. But even if you did, it's probably time for a refresher course. And Hillsdale College is offering a new free eight lecture course with Dr. Larry Arn teaching it as he goes in depth on four novels, 1984, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon and that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels, written many, many decades ago in the 1930s and 40s, they are more relevant today than they've ever been. Just turn on the news and find out why. More importantly, they can show us that faith, family, friends and this country are worth fighting for. Maybe you read these books a long time ago, maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem a little intimidating. Let Hillsdale College help you make the most of them. Go right now to charlie4hillsdale.com charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll. It's no cost, easy to get started. They have over 40 free online courses that you can see there. That's charlieforhillsdale.com to register, C-H-A-R-L-I-E.com or for hillsdale.com and you can check those out. No cost to you. All right. We're so excited about this. One of my favorite guests of the show, of course, that is Mark Halperin, who I hope for this audience needs no introduction, but. Mark, are you there? Can I see you? There you are, sir. How are you? Can you hear me? Yeah. Don't tug on Superman's cape, Don't spit in the wind, and don't try to take a taxi or an Uber in Manhattan between Labor Day and Christmas. Stranded out in the public. Had to jump out of my cab and I'm sitting in a hotel lobby with a big sign that says no one may use this lobby unless you're a guest in the hotel. So it could be. Could have some excitement, some. Some Gotham City excitement coming up. Yeah, Gotham City. Yeah, exactly. Gotham City is where I want to get started, actually, because we have this clip. I saw it earlier this week and I want to know if it's. If it's still holding true. And I believe. Here we go. Yeah, it's 134. You were predicting that there was a little bit of oppo research coming down the pike. So let's play your clip. 134. I informed Spidey senses we're going to see at least one more piece of pretty significant opposition research dropped in this race here at the end. But we'll potential shake things up on one of the candidates, of course, on Mondami, I think. Will it have a effect on the outcome? If it's what I'm told it is, it would happen. So, Mark, that was. Got a lot of eyeballs across the social media sphere. What is the update? Are we going to see this pretty late in the game? That was basically the, you know, the consensus sort of opinion I was hearing. Why, if they had it, why didn't they release it before? What's. What's the update? Well, it's a little complicated. First of all, you know, on two way, we try to be transparent. Right. We're not old media where we know secret things so we don't tell our audience. And I was dealing with the source, who I trust over years of dealing. And this person said, we have something. We're not sure we're going to be able to put it out because we got to square the circle and dot the I's. But we were trying to. And then two things have come out since I said that, which if Mondami were being treated like a normal candidate, I think would have had a major impact on the race. But the New York Times in particular is covering him like they covered Barack Obama in 2008. It's all about rainbows and special ponies as opposed to scrutiny of the frontrunner. So one story was a video that never been out, as far as I could tell, of Mondami comparing unfavorably the New York City police, who he might be the commander of in a few weeks with the Israeli army, the Israeli military. So that came out. And then another thing came out. Since then, his mother said that he was not an American, that he didn't really identify as an American. Both of those things. I think in a normal race, normal coverage would have been explosive. My source won't tell me if those are the things they were referring to. So there might still be something else. But it's possible that one of those two things, again, which should normally shake up a race, just have it. Because except for the New York Post and me, not many people are covering these things. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty shocking thing to admit. I mean, I think it's something. And Blake, we can bring you in here, but Blake Neff is joining us here. You know, it's a pretty shocking thing actually for the mother of the mayoral candidate in New York City, the largest, greatest city apparently that we have, according to many, and for him to basically have a family member, his mother, say that he doesn't even identify as American. Here's my thought though, on this, is that essentially you have about, what is it 60 or is it 4? I might be inverting them. It might be a winning strategy. Yeah, the New York electorate is essentially, let's say half because it's either 40 or 60%. I'm forgetting off the top of my head is foreign born. So this is not necessarily really that American of a city in its present form and demographics. I mean, that's. So maybe, maybe this is actually a net net add for him. Mark. It might be. And you know, the other thing might be net add too. He basically said that the, the idf, the Israeli military laces up the boots of the NYPD and suggests they're both kind of like jackbooted thugs. Again, there'd be some constituency for that. And certainly this is an unorthodox campaign. You know, I've been referring lately regarding Mondami to Donald Trump's famous I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and I wouldn't lose support. What would have to come out about Mondami for the New York Times to read a front page story about the front runner? What would he have to do? Because when they say, well, his mom said this about him when he was in college. He wasn't in college that long ago. He's only 34. So it's not like total ancient history. So like I said, my source has gone a little dark on me and there may still be something else. But it's possible that one of those two things were the things they put out and they had the perspective I did, which is you would think at this point in the campaign they would be concerned about their place in history for failing to scrutinize the front runner. Well, it just strikes me that what could even, you know, we have early voting in New York and he has got, according to the polls, a pretty big lead, what even let alone New York Times writing about it, just what could possibly actually close that gap in the amount of time that's remaining? And I kind of feel it might be nothing. Yeah. Go ahead, Mark. Well, well. So two very prominent New York top Post columnists have come out and said basically, Andrew Cuomo is a bum, but he's our bum, that they were voting for Cuomo, Cindy Adams and Michael Goodwin. And I have seen, again, it's anecdotal, but I have seen and heard from many people, Republicans who said, I'm just not going to waste my vote on the Republican nominee, Curtis Lewis. I'm going to vote for Cuomo. And the bandwagon effect is not nothing. Right. If people think if they vote for Cuomo, they might be able to stop a socialist mayor who they don't want to see. I also think I'm predicting, I don't know this reporting wise, but I would say I'm predicting, I wouldn't be surprised if there were robocalls maybe from Donald Trump and others to Republicans over the weekend saying vote for Curtis, vote for Cuomo, because it's the only way to save the city. So if you look at the public opinion polls, you'd say the race is over. But it's hard to poll this electorate, right. Because as you know, you try to pull regular voters, people who vote on a reliable basis, a lot of Mondami supporters wouldn't show up there. So I don't know which way that cuts. But I just know, I know there's some volatility here and Cuomo could get wiped out or it could be quite close and we're just not going to know until Tuesday. And if it is close or even if it's, you know, as long as Mamdani gets below 50% where there's the sense if they'd consolidated fully to beat him I do feel like there's going to be a lot of questions asked, you know, why was there a failure to fully consolidate the field? And I've heard people complain a lot. There's a lot of pressure that was put on Sliwa to drop out and on Republicans to just get behind Cuomo. But I also heard people validly ask, okay, first of all, why is it ever okay to just say, oh, the entire Republican Party has to quit this race because Democrats couldn't get a better, you know, centrist candidate against Mamdani? But also, was anything seriously offered, like what was there an incentive given for Republicans or for Sliwa specifically, where you will get this concession? You know, this is going to be a much more conservative Cuomo government than it would be otherwise in order to incentivize the creation of that unified Mamdani, anti Mamdani coalition. I've seen Cuomo now go on with Maria Bartiromo, Fox Business, things like that. And Sliwa has claimed, correct me if I'm wrong, Mark here, but that somebody offered him $10 million to get out of the race. I haven't heard from a policy standpoint, the concessions, but it does seem like Cuomo is trying to present himself as more of a centrist. He's been hinting at the fact that there is a civil war within the Democrat Party and that he believes that the far left Democrats, Democrat socialists, like, like Mamdani, are going to destroy the party. Maybe you, maybe you have more insight for us, Mark. Well, look, Cuomo is not the most liberal member of the party by any means. He's got some very liberal positions on some social issues, but he's not, he's not a flaming liberal on economics and certainly not as compared to Mondami. So, you know, elections are a bad choice. There's three people on the ballot who are trying to become mayor. One of them is not going to win is Curtis. And I get why he's staying in. He's having the time of his life. He was very good in both debates and, and he's enjoying it. And apparently that's worth more than 10 million. So then if you're a voter, your choices are a guy who's a socialist and inexperienced and a guy who's deeply flawed and not particularly well liked, but is not a socialist and has a lot of experience. So it's a strange election. And Mondame has not been strong for the last three weeks. He was not strong in the second debate. He's not been strong in interviews. He Did a big rally with Bernie Sanders and and aoc. Karl Rove has a really interesting comment in the Wall Street Journal today about the speech he gave, basically accusing the city of being anti Muslim. And he's not closing on like a super skillful mode where he's been most of the campaign. Who knows, who knows how voters will relate to that. But I think the key thing is Curtis's vote. If Curtis Lewis, who's the Republican nominee, if his vote total is below 10, I think Cuomo can win. But some recent polls have been closer to 20 than to 10. Yeah, well, I was about to say go up, throw up 274. This is Emerson College recent poll where it has Momdani at 50%. And then if you add up Cuomo and Sliwa, you're just at 46% with 5% undecided. I suppose if all the undecideds broke for Cuomo and Sleepwa got out, maybe they could combine the vote, consolidate the vote and actually pull ahead. But this is like, you know what I perceive as going on when you're talking about this new tone from Mamdani in the closing weeks of the race here, Mark, is that it's sort of a mask off moment. He thinks he's got this thing in the bag and he's reverting to a deeper, more personal held beliefs that he's going full grievance politics about Islam and his family and 911 and all this stuff. That's the best analysis of the race I've heard from anybody in Arizona in a long time. Exactly, exactly right. The way you just said it's exactly right. And I've talked increasingly to people who are unsettled by the chances, by the prospects of his being there, not even because of his issue positions. They just find his manner to be strange and we'll see if he does win if he makes an effort to unify the city. I do worry, not in the short term, less about his policies because I still think he's going to have trouble implementing a lot of the stuff he's proposing that a lot of people think is foolish. I just think there's going to be an explosion, explosive reaction from lots of constituents, particularly Jewish New Yorkers who are just truly emotionally unsettled. Mondani disadrangement syndrome. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to take a quick break. More with Mark Halperin on the other side. We'll be right back. Time for a sofa upgrade. Introducing Annabe sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices every anibe sofa is modular allowing you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces. Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabric that make cleaning easy. Liquids simply slide right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. 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The News Agents we're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast the News Agents dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And the newsagents USA. Listening to the newsagents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. Forging an all new greatest American generation. It's the Charlie Kirk Show. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Mark Halperin, two Way tv. Gotta check him out there. And next up on the Megyn Kelly Network. Mark, I wanna ask you about last night's event with J.D. vance and Erica Kirk. We got a two minute segment here before we welcome back national radio. You're one of the best out there about, you know, kind of feeling which way the wind is blowing and predicting where it's going. I got inundated like I've never been inundated by texts and friends and colleagues people haven't heard from saying how Refreshing last night was for the conservative movement to see Erica and her courage and her grace. And JD Just taking these questions unscripted. What do you make of it? The phenomenal event, and I've been saying to people today about it, is forget their issue positions, forget what you think about Turning Point or what you think about the Trump administration. Those are just two extraordinary performers, skillful on their feet, emotional in a positive way, clever. Just the whole thing. And I keep warning these Democrats who are dismissive to JD Advanced, this guy is, maybe he's not in Trump's league or Bill Clinton's league as a political athlete, but he is damn good and getting better. And the two of them together was quite powerful. And I thought, I thought, but I said I'm too weighed this morning is everyone should watch that. If you haven't watched, go watch the whole thing because you'll learn a lot about what's going on in this country. You'll learn a lot about the political futures of those, of those potential political futures of those two. Marquis? Yeah, I think it's, you know, something we commented on before you joined us, Mark, was just how much, I mean, we saw JD early and he was good and we, and Charlie saw it early and he predicted just how good he was going to be. But we've seen JD Grow leaps and bounds. And I would even say since Charlie's assassination, you've seen JD Blossom in this whole new way with authority and just, just a strength of moral clarity. I mean, it's, I don't think we've seen the final evolution of just where he's going to land on this because every time he speaks, it's like it's, it's new, it's more powerful, it's better. We're going to welcome back national radio in five seconds more with Mark Calpern. Don't go anywhere. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Radio stations across the country, we have one more final segment. Mark Halperin, two Way tv Next up on the Megyn Kelly Network. Blake gonna throw it to you. You got a question? Yeah. So, Mark, a big thing that's been a topic on the right, especially online, but also in right wing publications, is this Arctic Frost investigation that the FBI conducted under the Biden administration. And now we're getting more details about it, which it's showing. You know, the Biden administration subpoenaed people, it monitored phones. It was looking into a lot of these groups, Tyler Boyd, including our friend Tyler. And you know, we were discussing how the, you know the press is. Well, the New York Times cover Mamdani. Well, now we have a lot of conservatives are aggrieved where they're saying the major press is not covering Arctic Frost in any way. There's no articles about it and they believe it should be a much bigger issue. Now you're good at offering a lot of perspective on these sorts of things. So do you believe this is something where they have a good grievance or do you believe this is something where they're fixating on something and blowing it up to more than it really is? Well, I didn't cover it this morning on the morning meeting and I've heard from many people as well. Look, this needs to be looked into. Special counsels are really dangerous to liberty because their whole mandate, their whole reason to be is to investigate people and indict people. And so we always have to worry, particularly now when it involves members of Congress because that's a co. Equal branch and we don't want any executive branch going after members of Congress using the subpoena power and the threat of prosecution or prosecution. So that Those are dangers 101 that we need to look at in this case. I urge everybody to wait a little bit more for the facts. When they say people were investigated or spied on, that that's those fancy words for they were investigated under, under a lawful mandate by the Independent Council. So the fact that they looked at the phone metadata on its face is not. It's not a violation of constitutional rights if it was authorized and it seems to have been. So I'm all for the press looking at it. Congress should look at it. There needs to be full disclosure. But people shouldn't jump on the word spying to imbue it with something it doesn't necessarily mean. Well, and it's, you know, you've got Senator Cruz calling for the House to impeach Judge Boasberg, who was involved in the authorization of this. I would call it spying, but, you know, whatever the word we want to use, but because it was authorized to your point, Make a good point. It does fall within the legal parameters of our system. And so we've gotta wait for the facts to come in. But was the case corrupted? Was there political bias that was injected to it? I mean, all those stuff we need to get to the bottom of. You need to know, because here's the thing. Tyler Boyer has been targeted, harassed, prosecuted because of what happened in the aftermath of 2020. And they used that to spy on Turning Point USA Turning Point Action so, so yeah, we got a dog in this fight, Mark. So we're probably gonna be a little more fiery than you and I understand the difference. I wanna finish our conversation. We got about two minutes left here, Mark. Again, seeing which way the winds are blowing. We had Rich Barris, people's pundit, and he's done some polling on this that shows that people are fatigued with international foreign policy. All the Israel talk, all the Russia talk, and while Trump's putting up wins, peace deals, that sort of thing. He was meeting with Xi yesterday, so he's making good progress, but people want to focus on domestic issues. We're starting to see these layoffs with AI. The entry level jobs seem to be drying up to some extent. It's going to impact Gen Z. Which way are the winds blowing, Mark? How, how is Trump doing? Where are we going? Make sense of it. 30,000 foot view. Minute and a half too, Mark. Well, the economy is often talked about as a political issue, but it's more than that, of course. First and foremost, it's about the real lives of real people. What's the Trump theory of the case in the economy? Less regulation, more energy production and distribution, lower prices and using tariffs to try to get America's stronger place in the world. These are his ideas. It's quite clear what this centerpiece is. Will it work? I think voters will want to see it working. Maybe not in perfection, but will it work by the midterm elections, when Republicans around the country are going to want to run on the Trump dance? Economic record that matters most, not just because pollsters say voters care about the economy. That's the real lives of real people, much less remote than what's happening in Gaza or what's happening in Ukraine. So I think there's a theory of the case there. We have to see if it works. We've had presidents who are economically successful and ones who weren't. And I think it hangs in the balance now for Scott Bassett, the Vice President and the President, Are they going to be an economically successful set of policies or not? Well, you know, what we haven't brought up here, Mark, which strikes me is the government shutdown. We're on day 30 of it. It does have an economic impact, but it also has the snap impact. You know, there's a lot of headwinds here, plus this AI revolution that's drying up a lot of these entry level jobs. And you know, I happen to agree with President Trump's theory of the case, but, you know, this could be an interesting confluence of just bad timing with some of, you know, the AI boom. And I do believe I'm a glass half full guy. I do think eventually these things are going to shake themselves out in the mix and we're going to, we're going to have new industries that pop up, new jobs that emerge. But in the short term it's gonna, it could be painful. So, you know, we're gonna see how all this goes. Mark Halperin, sir. Thank you my friend. Good to see you guys. Thank you for having me on. Good to see you both. Absolutely. More an hour 2. Got Sarah Rogers excited for you to do that interview. We'll be right back. Let's be real. Life happens. Kids spill, pets shed and accidents are inevitable. That's why you need a washable sofa that can keep up. Our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out. So you can say goodbye to stains and hello to worry free living. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics, they're kid proof, pet friendly and built for everyday life. Plus changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want. Need flexibility? 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This has been going on pretty much all morning. Yeah. Terrence, great to be with you today. We are here at the Kennedy center, and one of the biggest things that these panelists and some of these speakers are talking about today is the genocide that we are seeing in places like Nigeria and India with Christians. And they're really present, presenting some great statistics on how this could really affect the United States if we continue to allow this to happen overseas. Some of Those things were 60 to 100,000 Christians have been murdered since 2009 and just 7,000 Christians alone in Nigeria this year. So it's been very, very interesting to hear some of these things that we don't hear on the mainstream media. And it's just, it's crucial. And I think all these speakers have such a different perspective. We just heard from Congressman from West Virginia, and he talked a lot about the policy aspect of things. But then you have a pastor that just spoke from the Congo telling us about how he was barred from entering his country because he's a Christian. And so there's a lot of different perspectives we're hearing here. It's my understanding that our very own Jack Posopic will also be speaking. Am I getting that right? Yes, he will. We're running a little bit behind right now, but he's set to take a stage here in not too long. So. So we're excited to hear that. And he'll be speaking about how we can combat this and how we can ensure that our religious freedoms aren't taken away. And I think Jack Bosobic is the perfect person to do that, you know, and that's the really big thing. Talking about it is one thing, but doing something about this persecution that's happening is another. And I would imagine that's got to be part of the conversation. Some real action items and actions that can be taken to try to save lives. No, absolutely. And the issue, the question that a lot of people are having is how do we make that happen? How do we ensure that we don't let the government take away religious freedoms but how can we bring the government and bring politics and Christianity together? And one of the big things that some of these people are saying is that we as Americans, we have to put pressure in some sort on these foreign nations. And we are given our liberties through God, through the Constitution, and we need to do that and ensure that other countries have those same laws in place. And what we've really heard today is that it's not necessarily possible until we really put things into place, into stone to ensure that these people that are committing these violent acts against Christians can be held accountable. And we know that it's not really okay to fight violence with violence. And we've seen how that hasn't worked for decades. And so the question is, as Christians, as faith, as believers, how do we do that without harming others and without putting our people's lives at risk? Benny, as we watch one of those speakers up there, I just have another question. You know, as I've been listening to you, obviously a lot of the focus is abroad, but there are arguments to be made that Christians in this country, particularly under the last administration, have been persecuted as well and that they were targeted. Yeah, well, absolutely. And I'm a little surprised, honestly. Maybe throughout these next speakers we'll hear a little bit more about Christianity in America. But, you know, look at Columbia and the pro Hamas protesters that were harming Jewish students and Christian students. And there's a lot happening on our soil as well. And so I'm really hoping that some of these lawmakers speak on this a little bit more because as of now with these panelists, we've really just heard a lot of stuff abroad. But we are seeing this now. We're seeing this with the attacking of our law enforcement with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was not killed because he spoke. He was killed because of his ideals and his beliefs. And it's right there. It's right in front of our face. So how are we going to put this into action? And how is America going to put America first? Absolutely. It's going to be an interesting conversation for the rest of the day. Benny Ray Harmony joining us there in Washington, D.C. always good to talk to you. Appreciate you taking some time out for us. Thank you, Terrence, of course. And you, of course, will have much more coverage of that symposium throughout the day here on Real America's VOICE for now. Now let's take a quick break and then get you back to your regularly scheduled programming. Let's be real, life happens. Kids spill, pets shed and accidents are inevitable. 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Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening foreign welcome back. Hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. Radio stations across the country. Real America's voice streaming podcast all the things. Honored to be with you. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show and Blake Neff, our not so secret weapon. Our show is devoted to maintaining the legacy of Charlie Kirk, making sure his mission expands, grows, multiplies. And I'm really excited about this next guest because her name is Sarah Rogers. She's the Under Secretary of State, so the State Department for Public diplomacy. And I don't want to say too much, I'm going to let I'm going to kind of throw this over to Blake, but she is what is Charlie helped when you know was Was very involved with the transition and helping with certain appointees, and, man, Charlie just completely was just really impressed by Sarah, and now she has been confirmed, and it's just. It's just a continuation of Charlie's legacy. But Sarah is somebody that we got to know via you, Blake, so I'm gonna. I'm. The floor is yours. Let's welcome Sarah in. But I'm excited to listen to you guys. Of course. Of course. Yeah. Well, welcome, Sarah. We've been looking forward to this for a long time. You know, Charlie. This is someone. Charlie was asking for, people who he should pitch to the administration. He asked me. He asked a lot of people. And I remember Sarah was one of the first two people that I sent a resume for. I said, I think she was the first. Get her in something. She's extremely smart, extremely effective, extremely based, as we say, and, you know, very sad. We were so looking forward to having her on the show, and, you know, unfortunately, she couldn't come on while she was just a nominee. The Senate was taking a very, very long time on these nominees, and we finally got her confirmed only after the tragedy. But. But, Sarah, we're very, very glad to have you on the show right now. Blake, Andrew, thank you so much for the warm welcome. It is a thrill and a privilege to be here, and I will try to live up to that glowing intro. I can't promise that I'll be smart, but I can promise that I'll be based. All right, well, so I think we should introduce people to what your job is, because, you know, you're not just the Secretary of state. You're under secretary for public diplomacy. I don't know that people necessarily know what that is, but so let's just say, you know, Charlie was America First. We are America first. What is the America first framing of American diplomacy? Thanks very much, Blake. So before I get into that substantively, I'll just say it's absolutely correct that I wouldn't be here if it weren't for Charlie, for his trust and confidence, as well as that of President Trump and Secretary Rubio. And one of my greatest regrets is that I couldn't work with him longer on issues both dear to both of us. I. And like free speech during his life. So now my duty and my goal when I wake up every day in this job that I'm thrilled to have is to work in his memory for the president and on behalf of the American people to advance those goals and get done the things that Charlie would have wanted. And we still want so public diplomacy refersyou know, when we think about diplomacy, we usually think about the relationship between the American government and for foreign governments, two ambassadors shake hands, sign a trade deal. But public diplomacy, which is my silo of the State Department, deals with the relationship between the American government and the foreign public. And this is a critical instrument of national security because when we have to do something like secure a strategic port or convince a foreign populace to use our AI or our 5G instead of China's, the public barometer matters a lot. And now today, today's public is very different than the one we confronted during the Cold War. Information during the age of mass media flowed downhill. So legacy authorities like governments, like legacy media would speak and the masses in the mass media age would listen. But that's not the age we live in now. The public is online, they're more networked, they're more reactive than ever before. And predecessors of mind, both within state and other parts of the government we now know, saw this democratized, chaotic information environment and they panicked. They said we've got to sanitize and censor everything. They even tried to censor Charlie, which I worked with him on, and Blake on, as you guys know. And that is one of the vignettes, that whole Murphy Supreme Court case that we will be doing thorough truth and reconciliation on. We will be releasing documents as soon as we are able to complement the ones that have already surfaced through the Twitter files and other sources. And it is my job to hold out to the world what America's values and priorities are. And they aren't censorship anymore. They're America first and America's crown jewel value. And Charlie knew this. He lived for it. He regrettably died for it is free speech. Yeah, so we actually, we have a clip we want to put up here. So Charlie, he was starting to go abroad a lot more this year. He got to speak at Oxford earlier this year and this is one of the things he said that got the most attention. Let's play clip 292 In Britain today, 30 people a day are arrested for offensive posts on social media. According to the Telegraph, praying silently within 600ft of an abortion clinic can get you arrested. In Scotland, as a 74 year old woman named Rose just learned weeks ago, members of Parliament scold British citizens for thinking they have the right to say things, say that they do not have the right to say things that offend Muslims. So I think a lot of our, you know, our foreign charm offensives that we've gotten used to seeing stuff you know, in the Middle east where we're saying, oh, why you should be more secular or more pro gay or something. But now I think on, especially on the right, we've seen a lot of interest in, well, why don't we try to pressure Europe to embrace free speech instead of censorship? And, and do you see, like, a role in the Trump State Department where we're going to see more of that? And what are we fighting? Also lay out, what are we fighting against? What is going on in Germany and the UK that we all should care about as Americans? Blake, that is a fantastic question that I could answer in a much longer segment than this. And Charlie obviously was very fired up on this, too. So what. What's going on in the UK And Germany? What's going on is that there's no First Amendment and there's a much more safetiest approach approach to speech that has really had some absurd effects that I think even sectors of these societies are becoming quite embarrassed of. So there's a case in Germany that Americans are shocked whenever I tell them about it, and so I talk about it whenever I can, because our failure as free speech activists is that more Americans don't know it. This case, regrettably, involved a gang rape in a public park of a German teenager by nine men. Those men were all convicted. There's no question of their guilt. During their trial, their expert witness said they'd committed the rape for cultural reasons. They were traumatized by the migration experience. So most of those rapists did not receive jail time. Because in Germany, if you profess to be a minor or considered to be under the age of majority by the court, it turns out you can commit gang rape and walk free. Big surprise. But someone did go to jail in connection with this gang rap rape, and that was a woman, because a woman texted one of the rapists and called him a disgraceful rapist pig. Which of course is true. Of course he is. All nine of them are. But in Germany, that's hate speech. So the woman was arrested and the woman, not the rapist, received two days in jail. That's the kind of value system that it is our job to persuade people to abandon in favor of one based on the First Amendment. So that's Germany. In the uk, which Charlie just mentioned, there's actually a recent incident that occurred following the tragedy, so Charlie couldn't comment on it. There's a relatively accomplished comedy writer named Graham Linehan who was arrested, detained, and jailed for joking on Twitter about transgenderism. And I'll paraphrase Here, because I don't have the tweet, but it's something like if you see a man in a ladies room, you can kick him the nuts. And that apparently was. It was a threat of violence in Britain in the way that some of the Islamist demonstrations in the street apparently don't rise to. So Linehan was jailed. And by the way, I'll just say that if there were ever a case for censorship, right, it would be a memetic Internet contagion like transgenderism that targets children results in either death, in a lot of cases, suicide or lifelong permanent disfigurement or sterility. And the censorship apparatus did not protect us or our children from trans. The censorship apparatus suffocated even the most reasoned criticism of it. So really like, even, even the Steelman case for censorship fails there. Also, in Britain, as Charlie mentioned, we have people arrested for acts like praying silently or wearing a priestly collar within a visible radius of an abortion clinic. Because the idea is, in Britain, it's not merely a crime to do something like block the clinic doors, which might actually impede someone from obtaining an abortion. You're not even allowed to try to dissuade someone from obtaining an abortion. So that's, that's another shocking reality. Yeah, we'll continue this past, past the break, but it's. We've really got to lay out that there it's very bad when our closest cultural compatriots, so to speak, are just our allies or just embracing this ideology that's totally hostile. I did not realize, Sarah, that you can't wear a priestly collar near an abortion clinic. I guess the demons don't like it. So. Yeah, we'll just kind of address that real quick. Demons are more and more prominent in our discourse today. Sorry, yeah, no, they. They are real quick. We're going to keep going, but I want to tell you first about good Ranchers. Good ranchers meat is 100% American, raised on local farms and delivered right to your door. 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But we also saw that with US Aid people are or aid where people were frustrated that we were sending spending money on various programs overseas and that these or distractions, they get away from what's really important. So I assume what you do does involve to some extent spending money outside of the United States. So I thought you could explain to our audience why is it worthwhile? What is what we are going to do? Why is it worth doing? Great question, Blake. So first of all, when we're talking about the scope of what we're spending, the foreign aid budget, and this is, this is my understanding as of now, I don't have a spreadsheet in front of me. I think is about $50 billion. That is a lot of American taxpayer money. By contrast, we can do Very high impact, very high impact initiatives in the field of public diplomacy for much less. So, for example, my office just recently expanded the scholarship where we trade some of our top STEM AI, like tech guys with Hungary. So we take like the two smartest AI or math or technology scientists in Hungary, we bring them here, and critically, they don't immigrate to America. They cross pollinate their expertise with our experts, and then we send them back. So that costs less than $100,000 to do, and that actually benefits the United States instead of deluging us with migrants we don't want, or advancing some kind of nebulous NGO network in a country that doesn't want or appreciate it. So that's the first point I would make is dollars and impact. The second point I would make is about unilateral disarmament. So every time our side wins or even comes within range of it, there's this debate about, you know, do we, do we unilaterally disarm or do we wield against the left the same kinds of weapons and tactics they wielded against us? The woke left formulation of the same debate is, can you use the master's tools to dismantle the master's house? And my answer is it depends on the weapon. It depends on the tool. Some of them, like disparate impact litigation, that has a clear kind of asymmetric leftist balance. Get that weapon off the field. We don't need it. It helps them more than it helps us. But the tools of public diplomacy are tools we should use. And my answer to the left is like, I'm going to use these tools because these are our tools now. Because this is our house now. Yeah, it's. We had Biden pushing, you know, what do you want to call it? Gay space communism or whatever Tony Blinken was, you know, Charlie used to rail against this, by the way. It was one of the most, I think, clearest kind of pivots. It was like, you know, growing up, we were like, we're going to spread American democracy and American values all across the globe. And then Biden becomes president and Charlie's like, wait, hold on a second. This is a terrible idea. We're spreading, like, transing kids and lgbt. If we could spend billions of dollars to sponsor, you know, CRT and sponsor trans radicalism all around the world, it strikes me as insane that we can't spend and as you pointed out, not that much money in the grand scheme of things to instead say, actually America is going to promote freedom of speech and like conventional American liberties instead of these novel woke ones. And I'll also just point out quickly that the free speech issue as a national security nexus too, because these countries that are arresting their citizens for calling a rapist a pig, which is true, or for praying outside of an abortion clinic, are now trying to enforce their laws against American citizens and American companies. So the UK is in litigation right now with the website 4chan, based in America, no operations in Britain. The UK takes the position that merely because the speech is accessible in Britain, UK censorship law must apply. There's also an American citizen, a Trump supporter, who was confronted by UK police for posting a meme the UK police did not like. And if our tech companies and certainly our speech marketplace are subject to, to this kind of censorious safetyism, this kind of perverse regulation, we will never win the AI race against China. Our rate of advancement will be slowed and it'll affect all of our critical interests, of which free speech is one. Well, we are here at Turning Point in the Charlie Kirk Show. We are passionate about spreading free speech around the world. I used to not think about it like this, but truly, if we become an island of free speech, the last remaining island of free speech, guess what happens the next time the Democrats are going to get in power? They're going to be looking at free speech. Yeah. They're going to be looking at their European allies in the UK and say, well, they crack down on everything. We're just doing this transatlantic crackdown on speech because, you know, we live in a, in a scary world and these far right extremists are gonna, they're coming for us and they're gonna crack down. We need allies around the world that hold these values as, as top priorities. And that's why we just have 50 seconds left here, Sarah. But, you know, you should tell us what we're hoping to do by the time we have 50 seconds for the most important moment in this segment. So my honor office, when we engage in all these educational and cultural programs around the world, we hire organizations to implement them for us. These are nonprofits in the past, an assortment with which other administrations chose to work. I'm privileged to announce on this show that we'll be working with Turning Point USA to implement multiple international programs dealing with topics like free speech. More details on that to come. That's amazing. I mean, that's what Charlie wanted. Charlie, that's why he was going to South Korea, going to the UK he wanted to go to Germany, the Netherlands, and say, you know, American free speech is one of our greatest things and the whole world deserves to have it. That's a beautiful, beautiful way to end this interview. Sarah Rogers, Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, thank you both so much. Got it. Thank you Sarah. Pleasure to have you. We'll be right back. There's nothing like sinking into luxury. Annabe sofas combine ultimate comfort and design at an affordable price. Annabe has designed the only fully machine washable sofa from top to bottom. The stain resistant performance fabric, slipcovers and cloud like frame duvet can go straight into your wash. Perfect for anyone with kids, pets or anyone who loves an easy to clean spotless sofa. With a modular design and changeable slipcovers, you can customize your sofa to fit any space inside style. 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Stop watching the news and start making some the Charlie Kirk show. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett here. I just, you know, we're about to have a couple of the student leaders from Ole Miss join us because it was such a triumph. We just figured let's give them the stage. Let's give them a moment to bask in what they accomplished yesterday evening, which was tremendous. So let's just talk about, let's just throw one of these up here. 259 this is JD Vance on H1B visas last night. 259 we let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year. And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers. It's one of the reasons why the president of the United States it's one of the reasons why the president, United States and a lot of us in the administration have encouraged H1B reform. Because if you look at the H1B visa, what it's supposed to be. What it's supposed to be is that you have a super genius who's studying at an American university, who's working at a great company. You want that super genius to stay in the United States of America and not go somewhere else. What it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at a 50% discount to an American citizen. I don't think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries when we've got accountants right here in the United States that would love to work for a good wage. J.D. vance, his master class, just taking questions from students. By the way, the students were thrown a tough question. I was actually a little worried that people were going to think we screened them because there's so many, you know, conservative and fans of the administration in. In that part of the country. And, man, they came up with some good questions, I have to say. Welcoming to the show now are two of the student leaders at our chapter at Ole Miss that made yesterday evening possible. That'd be Leslie Lockman and Kent Tonos. That, Leslie, you are the chapter president, Ole Miss. You did a phenomenal job. And Kent Tonos, you are the vice president. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Show. Thank you so much for having us. We're excited to be here, especially after last night. We're coming down from it, but we couldn't be more thrilled. Okay, thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. It's an honor to have you guys here. So just take the audience into what it's like to be you. You are chapter president and vice president of this campus. You find out that JD Vance and Erica Kirk are going to be coming to Ole Miss. Like, how does this work? What. What are your roles? How'd you pull this off? Off? Yeah, I think so. I found out just about two weeks before. I think immediately I thought to myself, oh, my goodness, this is going to be the event of the year, not only for Ole Miss, but for Turning Point usa. It's the largest event in history. So I thought right away, we have to get to work. Kenneth is my right hand man when it comes to all things details, event coordination. And so I think a lot of it was tabling, spreading the word details. What would you say I have? Yes, tabling. And actually it's odd because somebody random came up to me when we were tailgating for the LSU Ole Miss game and said, do you know who the speaker is? And I said, I have no idea. And they said, I heard it could be J.D. vance. And this was far before anything was announced, anything was in the works. So I just had that in the back of my head. I was like, maybe this guy's just pulling my leg. And then the day I find out when everybody else founds out up with the announcement, and I was like, there's no way this guy is. I don't know if he was like a CIA agent or something. It was funny, but let's hope not. It's. Yeah, no, it's. It's been like a. It's. It's been a. A very uphill battle and it's. It's been phenomenal. Well, that's. That's amazing to hear. Yeah. I might have had a little advanced notice on that because I was part of the team working behind the scenes to figure out if. If we were going to be. Because we were kind of. Of getting down to the wire and it was like, oh, he's either going to do November 5th at Auburn or he's going to do October 29th. And obviously when you're working with a vice president's schedule and all the travel and all the other obligations, it's tough to get it locked in. And, man. So take us into this. To the campus, though, I mean, first, I think I would love to know how your chapter is doing in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination, but what's the vibe, the tone? How big is it? How is it growing? Tell us about those details. Yeah. So when I first took over presidency, we were looking at 200 members. It was a smaller organization on campus. It had a presence, but nothing for the size it is now. We're looking at 14,000 on Instagram, just over 2,000 on our group. Me. You know, we were prepared. We were ready. We had meetings already booked, tabling ready on the calendar. So when the whole thing boomed, we felt really prepared in moving with this whole thing. So it is. Exponentially grown students not only want to be involved with this campus, but you can see the impact it's had across the country. We've become a forefront chapter for what Turning Point USA should look like kind of a model guide. Everything from buttons custom made to what the table should be set up as to how can you do positive, conservative conversation on the campus of Ole Miss? And I'd say not only is it growth and a win for Ole Miss, but I think it's a win for all Turning Points chapters, yes. As Leslie said, we've grown exponentially and it's, it's crazy to see the access that, you know, through our group, me and just our university site, the thing called the Forum, we get almost 2010-20 people that want to join every single day. And it's just, it amazes me how many people want to be involved. And it's, it's great, it's fantastic. Wow. So maybe, I mean, it's probably too early to tell, but I mean, I've got to believe after last night's event, I mean, I mean, to your point, that was not only the biggest chapter tour stop in Turning Point's history. I mean, it was 10,000 people in that arena last night. But, and people need to understand this. Like sometimes at our events we have mostly students and some adults because, you know, there's a little room left over and we can get some. The adults sit in the standby line and we get them in as soon as all the students get seated. We had to turn away students last night. That I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that's a first in especially one of these bigger tour stops. That's a 10,000 person arena and it was 10,000 students packed to the brim, standing in line in the rain. And I'm told that you guys have about 27,000 student body count or whatever. There was 14,000 student registrations, 13,000 adult registrations. And we had to work to tell the adults, please do not come, you won't get in, please do not come. And yet they still, a lot of them came. I mean, it was truly, truly amazing. You guys have to, to. I've got to imagine after an event like that, your chapter is only going to continue to grow. Yeah, absolutely. I mean you could talk to, I mean this was really a starting point. This was the turning point. You know, it's kind of ironic, but it is really true. You see, it's, it's not only people wanting to, you know, they came to the event, they were excited, they're wearing the merch, but it's action. I think this is going to convert into voting numbers later on. I think this is going to convert to a bigger picture thinking, and I see this later on, turning blue states red. Yes. And preventing further government shutdowns too. It's another thing, you know, we see it just right now and it's great to have this positive feedback from, you know, not only our tour, but hopefully other tour stops that come along just to see the young People get involved and, you know, the conservative way is the right way. So I love the way that people view that. You know, Charlie always, he, he loved to talk to Gen Z people. He just, he loved to hear what motivated them, what had they seen to try to understand them better. So you guys have seen that there's been a conservative shift among young people. So I thought I'd ask. You've probably talked to a good number of freshmen who've just arrived on campus. Have they said what shaped them? What shapes their worldview the most? And how do they even differ from maybe seniors on your campus? What have we seen just over the past, past four years in terms of how American young people are feeling politically? I'd say that conservative values on the campus of Ole Miss have always been alive and well. But this freshman class is passionate. I think Charlize Kirk really pushed off that conversation of deeper involvement in the conservative party. I think it's one thing to, you know, go out and say you love it, but to see the persuasion of OLMs, almost everyone around you, it's immaculate. Yeah. And, and the freshmen have a different mindset. The seniors that I've talked to are like, well, am I even going to be able to get a job, as J.D. vance pointed out, you know, with the visas that we have, am I even going to be able to get a job when I graduate? Can I even be, you know, come from this accounting school and go be an accountant where I want to be an accountant, or am I going to get beat out somewhere? So it's, it's one of those things where, where the drive for our seniors is a different type of drive than the freshmen. And the freshmen are, you know, they're, they're happy, they're excited and they, they have different values. But when they get to that senior level, they'll, they'll go back and be like, well, I want that job too. So. And another thing to note also, you just brought up, we have a freshman on our team. She's new, she's, she wants to make these buttons and design them and spend hours versus, you know, if you're a senior, you know, you, you, you've gone through college, you've done it, you're a little bit, you know, but I think it's crucial to have both parts because at the end day, everyone needs to go those polls, everyone's still voting. So I think whether you're hands on at that table or stepping a little bit back just to be a part of the events, all of it is very Important to us. Well, so tell me to kind of piggyback off what Blake said. What was the reaction of students to some of the answers that JD gave? What was the reaction to students about, about Erica's speech? I mean, what are you people telling you? What are the students saying? I mean, I would definitely say the reaction has been nothing but positive. Those questions were hard hitting. I mean we sat next to each other, we were in the front row, we were seeing this happen live. I'm looking at Kenneth. I'm like some of those, you know, but I'd say he handled it so well, so delicately. I'm so proud of Ole Miss for these well thought out, developed questions. You know, you never know if kids are gonna come up there and say crazy stuff. But I felt really proud of our community that they came with strong question prepared and the reactions have been positive. I think personally we can all remember Ricky Bobby comment one, the comment of the evening. Our pages were all about it. I think that kids are hoot. I, I said later in the group chat, haha, he's got to be on exact. And so I think even how raw and, and true it was to what Ole Miss was, I couldn't be prouder. It also shows like, you know, we all don't have to agree on everything and, and they even pointed that out yesterday is like, you know, even if they have only 20% to something in common that you have, that doesn't mean you get to turn them away. That means that they can ask questions and you can even ask questions because JD even said there is no neutrality. You're always going to be biased on one side or the other. So it was great to see that last night. Man, that is great. You know, Leslie, I have to tell you, I ran into a reporter there. The, the outlet will remain anonymous for our sake here. This is off the record conversation and those do both, those do go both ways. But I will tell you, this reporter was singing your praises and she was like, we have to, you know, Turning Point has to make sure we hold on to Leslie. I, I, Are you, are you a senior this year, Leslie? No, I'm a junior and I actually just turned 20 like a little bit ago. It's just my birthday. And so it's always funny when people approach me and they're like, you're the president. And I'm like, yes. Because cool, hot, young conservative women can be the forefront of this conversation, especially at Turning Point. And I think, you know, me being the face of it, I think sometimes you get a little confused. But at the end, I dig deep. I think it makes sense. I'd say our team, I'd say our team responds pretty well. And our team is significantly young, too. And the way we work with each other is just crazy. The amount of stuff that we can work together on and get done, it's just, you know, it's pushing each other. You know, hey, we're college students, too. Well, get it. Let's get this ball rolling. I love that. And Kenneth, I didn't get a chance to meet you. Leslie, I was backstage when you met the vice president, so I didn't want to interrupt that at that moment. But I saw the way you comported yourself and handled yourself, and it was very impressive. So congratulations to Leslie and Kent from Ole Miss. They run a great chapter there that's bursting at the seams. 2,000 people on your group. Me. So congratulations, you two. Well done. Keep it up. You're making Charlie proud. Thank you. Thank you. All right. God bless you guys. Well done. Those are the. I mean, if you're in the audience, you're wondering, what's the future of America? You just saw it. And that was all made possible by their grit and tenacity and by Charlie's vision. So God bless everyone that played a part. We'll be right back. Let's be real. Life happens. Kids start spill. Pets shed and accidents are inevitable. That's why you need a washable sofa that can keep up. Our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out. So you can say goodbye to stains and hello to worry free living. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics, they're kid proof, pet friendly and built for everyday life. Plus, changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want. 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Got to say it, the whole thing, every single. I almost got it. So. And then she just kind of slides in there that the State Department works with nonprofits, groups like Turning Point to achieve certain ends internationally. And obviously we are America first through and through, but we do have a foreign interest. We have a domestic interest. A domestic. What we've seen is what Charlie's mission was, a global one. We saw that with the global reaction to what happened. But if we, if we don't have. Yes, that's exactly right. Charlie's legacy is now global. And I've, as I've said before, he belongs to history now. And the world took note. It was a huge global story. But now it sounds like there might be this opportunity to use the legacy of Charlie Kirk to expand free speech around the globe. And people like Sarah Rogers are gonna make that possible. And so we have this amazing mother. She slid right in there right in the last with 50 seconds on the clock left before I had to take a break. And then we bring in two absolute all stars from Ole Miss and Leslie, that's quite the chapter. That's quite the chapter. Two thousand students, students on their group. Me. That is the impact the turning Point is having. That is the impact of the legacy of Charlie Kirk. And so like, while all this is such a huge tragedy and you know, there's certain people online that say, oh, we're not grieving the right way or we're not sad enough, we're not crying. It's like, listen, man, we don't grieve the way the world grieves. We don't have to. We don't have to wallow in this because a. Charlie would not accept it. I walk around with that thing in the back of my head all the time. I know Charlie would not accept it. Charlie would demand that we get every last ambulance ounce out of his life and his legacy. And he gave the last final measure for this mission, for this country, for his faith. And we just don't grieve the way the world, world grieves. And there is so much good. And in this hour, you have seen so much of it, and it's just so powerful. We're going to finish up the hour. Final segment of the day, national radio, in one second. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Yeah. So Michael in our studio, he says, when I was a in a TPSA chapter at U of A in 2018, there was like maybe 15 people, which, you know, I'm sure a lot of chapters. That doesn't matter. No, you can still start somewhere. But it really shows what good leadership especially can do. Yeah. Leslie, Looks like when you take interest and then you convert that into action and activity, it's like a snowball. It just gets bigger as it goes downhill. And it was like that with Charlie. Turning Point was you could have fit all of Turning Point in this studio room 12 years ago. And then what he built it up into from there. Yeah. And Michael says, I'm sure it's way bigger now. Yeah, I actually know for a fact it's way bigger now. And we actually saw this, Mike. It was funny. Mikey made a comment about his high school, which is Oaks Christian in Thousand Oaks, California. Well, we tried to get a chapter there for a long time and couldn't get it through. And then they. So Mikey was under the impression that it didn't exist still. But they have now started a chapter and it's hundreds and hundreds of students have joined that chapter. And so in death, Charlie's legacy obviously expanded even more. And these chapters have ballooned all across the country. And I just loved seeing Leslie and Kenneth and their passion and their, their. You could just tell they. They were very dedicated. They took this like a job and they're really pouring their whole self in. So if you're a chapter member listening around the country, you have that same opportunity right now. Take this as seriously as you can. Blow it up, make it as big as you can. And you would be amazed at the amount of power and influence that you can exert on your own campus in your local community. And yeah, if there's a. It's funny because Leslie brought that up. If there's a lockdown or some sort of COVID V2 that comes out, you can be a firewall in your community to stand up to tyranny if you have this large group on a campus like Ole Miss, other places. So please, please, please, pour your whole self into it. Be courageous. Be the courageous generation. As Erica Kirk implored us, there is a little bit of other news that I think our audience would get a kick out of. There is some refugee news. Blake, what is it? Oh, yes, this is great. I just saw this and tweeted about it, but so this. There were rumors about this a few weeks ago, but it just hit. The Trump administration is formally cutting the annual refugee admission amount from 125,000 a year to 7,500 a year. And then this is what really has people, you know, you know, who extremely upset about it because they said they're going to give some priority to white South Africans who have faced a lot of violence, a lot of discrimination. We've had Ernst Roots and others on the show about this. And so they're going to say, we're going to give some priority for them coming here because they haven't really been treated as refugees by other places. And on top of that, they're often very talented people, very immediately economically useful people, and so they'll be able to support themselves. And they're facing real violence in their home country. And people are going to be very mad about this because. Yeah, but they're Western. Ish. They're Western, yet they are integrate, and they assimilate and integrate immediately into America. Skills. What you've really seen is America's Americans have gotten fed up with what is clearly the scam where we take people. First of all, they're often not really refugees from anything other than the fact that their societies are. Are really rotten and poor. And then they're deliberately brought in and they're settled where they can cause, you know, the maximum disruption. So we get all these refugee resettlements in, you know, small towns in Idaho, small towns in Iowa, small towns in the Dakotas, Ohio, in Texas, and they, yeah, they put them there. They assimilate badly. They're. They tend to not be economically. They tend to not contribute economically. Not even in the short term, but the long term. Yeah, they defraud on the dole and there's tons of fraud. I think did, did Ilhan Omar literally come here as a refugee? Or did they come here under some status? But remember her background, her dad was an official with like an authoritarian, I think even genocidal government. That's why they had to flee. And then they come here. They're part of a community that routinely defrauds the American system. And it's so obvious that what the refugee system had become for the left was it was just another lever for what their overall agenda was, which was to do the great replacement to demographically transform the United States, to just get people in by whatever door is available. Sometimes it's H1B, sometimes it's asylum seekers, sometimes it's refugees, sometimes it's just the, you know, the diversity lottery. Get them in however we can. That's always the goal. And the Trump administration has said one, we're scaling this back so you can't do that. And we're going to focus on people who will improve America the most or at least assimilate to America the quickest instead of a scam. Well, and I think if you look at, and I love that news, so 125,000 to 7,500. Massive, massive decrease, thank God. But secondly, if you look at what J.D. vance talked about at Ole Miss last night, I think the one huge big takeaway in something Charlie railed against. I could find you dozens of tweets and posts on X about this. We have to reform our legal immigration system. And I understand that there is a limitation with our current GOP in the way it is made up. But JD Vance is pointing to the future and for him to say out loud question after question, we need to reduce and reform our legal pathways to immigrate into this country. And then you pair it with that news. The future is gonna get better if we stay the course. There is light at the end of this tunnel and common sense can prevail if we earn it. Charlie's favorite word in the English language. We'll see you tomorrow. God bless. We'll talk to you soon. There's nothing like sinking into luxury. Annabe sofas combine ultimate comfort and design at an affordable price. Annabe has designed the only fully machine washable sofa. From top to bottom. The stain resistant performance fabric slipcovers and cloud like frame duvet can go straight into your wash. 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