The Charlie Kirk Show, OCTOBER 8TH, 2025

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – October 8, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice

Host: Andrew Colvett, with contributors Charlie Kirk (archival audio), Blake Neff, Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez), Terrence Bates, Katie Porter, Nate Morris
Date: October 8, 2025

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Episode Theme & Purpose

Overview:
This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show focuses on the state of political dialogue, public safety, cultural trends, and grassroots conservative activism in America, following the legacy of Charlie Kirk. The show critically addresses recent political violence, government responses to crime, the erosion of public order, shifting cultural institutions, the importance of honest conversation, and memorializes the late Charlie Kirk's impact. Key guests and commentary frame the current conservative movement’s response to threats and opportunities on college campuses, in elections, and in the broader culture war.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Historical Parallels & Erosion of Rights

• Nazi Germany Comparison: Early referencing of rights being eroded in Nazi Germany as a cautionary tale for today.
  • “In the early days of the Nazi regime, they started slowly but surely taking away people's rights. And what we're seeing now is the very same thing.” — Terrence Bates (00:30)
• Concerns about incremental losses of civil liberties, especially through escalated, politicized law enforcement or government action.

2. Urban Crime and Federal Response

• Chicago Violence Stats: 110,000 gang members in Chicago; extreme numbers of shootings and homicides in 2025.
  • “You heard me right. They had 1,200 shootings this year alone, 360 homicides.” — Andrew Colvett (00:43)
• Praise for federal intervention under Trump to address crime:
  • “Thank God we have President Trump and this Department of Justice... going in there and crushing violent crime…” — Terrence Bates (00:51)
• Discussion of tension between local officials (e.g., Chicago Mayor) and federal agents concerning protest management and public safety, with concern that a heavy federal presence may escalate tensions rather than de-escalate them (01:14).

3. Political Dialogue & Protest Culture

• Escalating Demonstrations: Reports of clashes between demonstrators and counterdemonstrators; criticism of government tactics:
  • “What they are doing and how they are approaching the situation is actually escalating it.” — Katie Porter (01:40)
• Push for de-escalation, dialogue over violence, and resistance to normalization of political violence.

4. Civil Liberties & Legal Battles

• Surveillance of ICE Facilities: Reports of anarchist groups surveilling ICE offices and doxxing agents (02:23).
• Concerns voiced about law enforcement possibly being deployed to polling stations in the future, raising election integrity fears (02:46).
• Banning Conversion Therapy: First Amendment concerns highlighted regarding state bans on conversion therapy. Discussion about the proper definition of “America” and who is allowed to define American values (03:53–04:46).

5. Turning Point Campus Activism & Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

• Raucous Campus Events: Enthusiastic report from Montana State University, showcasing the energy of young conservatives (05:42).
• The moment is described as “clarifying”—refocusing debate from “who killed Charlie” to “what we stand for,” reinforcing nonviolence, dialogue, and debate (08:07).
• “We have always been about the debate. We've always been about the dialogue. We've always been about having the conversation, because that's what America is supposed to be about.” — Andrew Colvett (08:07)

6. Political Violence Against Conservatives

• Red Mass Bomb Threat: Breakdown of a foiled bomb plot at a Catholic ceremony attended by Supreme Court Justices, linking it to previous assassination attempts against conservative judges such as Brett Kavanaugh (09:20–11:51).
• Criticism of leniency shown to would-be political assassins and fears about the eroding “taboo” against political assassination.
  • “We need a taboo on political assassination 1,000%.” — Charlie Kirk (13:16)
• The need for both cultural and judicial consequences.

7. Turning Point’s Momentum & Personal Testimonials

• Emotional reading of a listener email reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s spiritual and motivational impact, sparking reflections on his legacy and encouragement to continue his mission (17:42–19:13).
• Announcement of multiple upcoming Turning Point events with guest speakers across American universities (21:13–21:42).
• Emphasis: “The purpose is not to ‘own the libs,’ [but] to allow people like Jacob to have a better life, to have a better country…” — Charlie Kirk (22:09)

8. US Politics and Federal Policy

• President Trump’s schedule discussed, including intelligence briefings and discussions on Antifa designation as a domestic terror organization (23:26).
• Government shutdown portrayed as an opportunity to cut “waste, fraud, and abuse” (24:05).

9. Spotlight: Nate Morris for Senate in Kentucky

• Nate Morris shares the significance of Charlie Kirk’s endorsement in his Senate run against the “McConnell machine” and “Amnesty Andy Barr.”
• Focus on immigration control, opposition to mass amnesty, and defense of Social Security (29:50–39:08).
• Direct attack on moderate Republicans for using “left-coded language” regarding immigration (35:47).

10. Democrat Critique: Katie Porter

• Featured multiple times as emblematic of a Democratic “death cult” attitude, moral indignation, and lack of accountability.
• “More than 200 billion coming into the coffers in tariffs… the Women and children food program will not be cut off while the government is shut down.” — Katie Porter (03:20)
• “Katie Porter… is the sort of apotheosis of liberal politics at this point. She's what I'd call a sort of longhouse matron… the vice principal, third grade teacher who's slapping you on the hands…” — Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez) (65:16)

11. Shifts in the Intellectual Landscape

• Extended segment on the “barren” intellectual landscape of the contemporary left, contrasted with right-wing innovation, resilience, and institutional strategy (58:51–61:25).
  • “What we're now seeing is the right taking ideas…generated during that moment of subordination…and that's producing a lot of healthy policy outcomes.” — Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez) (58:51)

12. Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s Life and Influence

• Multiple segments devoted to personal reflections on Charlie Kirk’s character, his legacy of loyalty, humility, and his unifying role in conservative circles (88:03–97:15).
  • “Charlie was a loyal friend. And loyalty really is the first principle of any political movement, of any political group, and of any political act.” — Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez) (88:03)
  • “Grassroots humility and being a happy warrior” cited as essential qualities and internal Turning Point principles.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Erosion of Civil Liberties:
  • “They started slowly but surely taking away people's rights. And what we're seeing now is the very same thing.” — Terrence Bates (00:30)
• On Chicago Violence:
  • “They had 1,200 shootings this year alone, 360 homicides.” — Andrew Colvett (00:43)
• On Escalation at Protests:
  • “What they are doing and how they are approaching the situation is actually escalating it.” — Katie Porter (01:40)
• On Need for Dialogue:
  • “We've always been about the debate…we should not be using violence, that we should not be using political violence…” — Andrew Colvett (08:07)
• On Red Mass Threat:
  • “He's just got a tent in front of this church. And then when the police approach, he says, get away. I have a bunch of explosive devices…” — Charlie Kirk (10:04)
• On Political Violence:
  • “We need a taboo on political assassination 1,000%.” — Charlie Kirk (13:16)
• On Turning Point’s Mission:
  • “The purpose is not to ‘own the libs,’ [but] to allow people like Jacob to have a better life, to have a better country and people who are living out their faith…” — Charlie Kirk (22:09)
• On Immigration:
  • “He called me a nativist because I want a full moratorium on any new immigration in our country…this is the McConnell machine, and this is what they believe.” — Nate Morris (34:13)
• On Charlie Kirk’s Legacy:
  • “Charlie was at the center of what was going to happen next on the right…you can't replace someone like him.” — Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez) (88:03)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Time | Segment & Key Discussion | |--------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30 | Comparison to pre-Holocaust Germany, erosion of rights | | 00:43 | Statistics and commentary on Chicago violence, federal intervention | | 01:40 | Katie Porter on protest escalation, critique of policing tactics | | 02:23 | Surveillance of ICE; concerns on political violence at polling places | | 03:53 | Conversion therapy debate—First Amendment framing | | 05:42 | Turning Point campus energy, Montana State University event recap | | 08:07 | Re-centering conservative activism on values and debate over violence | | 09:20 | Red Mass bomb plot / Kavanaugh assassination attempt details | | 13:16 | Call to enforce taboo against political assassination | | 17:42 | Personal email read—Charlie Kirk’s impact on youth and families | | 21:13 | Turning Point campus tour schedule—future momentum | | 23:26 | President Trump’s actions against crime, Antifa focus | | 29:50 | Nate Morris on campaign, Kirk legacy, immigration policy focus | | 35:47 | Opponent’s pro-amnesty language exposed | | 65:16 | Katie Porter as emblematic of modern Democratic politics | | 88:03 | Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s unique strengths and personal warmth | | 94:19 | Final thoughts on faith, grassroots humility, and “happy warrior” ethos|

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Tone and Style

• Candid, assertive, and passionate. The hosts and guests speak frankly with emotional resonance about violence, cultural battles, and the personal loss of Charlie Kirk.
• Interspersed with humor and internet culture references: Jokes about Katie Porter (“mashed potatoes”), Antifa mugshots, and shock jock behavior (Hasan Piker).
• Mix of somber reflection and call-to-action: Particularly during the memorial segments for Charlie Kirk and the exhortations for positive, faith-based activism.

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Summary

This episode is an honest, at times raw, meditation on the challenges facing America’s conservative movement—political violence, cultural decay, compromised institutions, and personal loss. The roundtable underscores the importance of steadfast values, debate, grassroots action, and unity against radical forces. Charlie Kirk’s legacy looms large, not just as a movement leader but also as an example of humility, positivity, and effective coalition-building. The episode is a rallying cry for constructive, hopeful, and principled engagement in America’s public life.

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For further discussion topics (hour 2):

• Hasan Piker’s shock jock antics and comparison to Charlie Kirk (“the left’s Charlie Kirk”, NPR, 51:15–54:57)
• Expansion on the intellectual shift rightward as the left becomes complacent and aimless (58:51–61:25)
• Critique of local and national Democratic leadership, reflections on party identity (65:16 onward)
• Multiple lighter moments and audience email commentary interspersed throughout

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Contact: Feedback and listener emails encouraged at [e-mail].

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Andrew Colvett]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now. I chose something I know very well. I helped to build a Holocaust museum.

[Terrence Bates]

What I know is in the early.

[Andrew Colvett]

Days of the Nazi regime, they started slowly but surely taking away people's rights.

[Terrence Bates]

And what we're seeing now is the very same thing.

[Katie Porter]

We learned that the Chicago city streets.

[Terrence Bates]

Have 110,000 gang members.

[Nate Morris]

That's right.

[Andrew Colvett]

You heard me right. They had 1200 shootings this year alone, 360 homicides. When politicians choose to side with those.

[Terrence Bates]

Metrics and not their citizenry, thank God we have President Trump and this Department of Justice and this FBI going in there and crushing violent crime in order.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

For our country to be a place.

[Andrew Colvett]

Of promise and hope and opportunity for people around the globe who have called the city of Chicago their home.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

It's why we're so committed to ensuring.

[Andrew Colvett]

That we're protecting our democracy and defending humanity.

[Katie Porter]

The ongoing demonstrations in front of this building, a lot of folks are hanging out, exercising their free speech. Now there are counter demonstrators coming in. And the criminal activity the last couple of days has been counter protesters having arguments and fights with protesters. And I think that what's happening with the federal agents in the building, what they are doing and how they are approaching the situation is actually escalating it. I would ask them to stand back and focus on de escalating the situation because it is not coming from the.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Folks who are demonstrating.

[Katie Porter]

The chief asked if I wanted to meet with the mayor, and I said absolutely. Came back and just met with the mayor, and I'm so extremely disappointed he's continuing to play politics, did not commit to any of those promises, and said that he'd give me an answer by tomorrow, and I'm hopeful that he will. What I told him is that if he did not follow through on some of these security measures for our officers, we were going to cover him up with more federal resources and that we were going to send four times the amount of federal officers here so that the people of Portland could have some safety, they could have some security. Today, Jesse, we went and got a sex offender off the streets here in Portland that had been violating minors.

[Andrew Colvett]

The law enforcement threat assessment from the center for Internet Security says at least four Chicago area ICE facilities, including, including.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Broadview, have been surveilled with detailed layouts, diagrams and photos posted to what is described as an anarchist website.

[Andrew Colvett]

Also found on the website reviewed by the ABC7i team, photos of ICE agents.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Including names, faces and batch numbers.

[Andrew Colvett]

They think they can get people used.

[Terrence Bates]

To the idea and next year, I fear that what they're going to do is deploy these folks eventually to polling places and say they're protecting the vote. Donald Trump knows that without shenanigans and.

[Andrew Colvett]

Without these breaches of the Constitution that he's going to lose the Congress.

[Terrence Bates]

We're not pushing to give health insurance to undocumented immigrants. That's a lie. It's been proven to be a lie over and over again. But he doesn't care. He just keeps restating the lie because he's so afraid of the truth.

[Katie Porter]

More than 200 billion coming into the coffers in tariffs, and now we're learning.

[Andrew Colvett]

Where some of that money will go.

[Katie Porter]

The White House was just announced that the Women and children food program will not be cut off while the government is shut down. We do know it's illegal. We do know it's a violation of our rights. And of course, Jack Smith is going to have to answer for this. I'm already working on a letter to the D.C. bar, a complaint letter to file against him. He should be disposed to Colorado law.

[Andrew Colvett]

Banning conversion therapy for children. The counselor says the law violates her First Amendment rights of speech and religion. Conversion therapy is used if somebody feels like they're of a different sex than they were born. The conversion therapy is sometimes used to try to bring them back to their original gender assignment.

[Terrence Bates]

The First Amendment protects the right, I.

[Andrew Colvett]

Think here of the therapist, Ms. Childs, to say what she believes. Really, to put America first, we first have to answer what America is.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

And it turns out this was actually the subject of my very last in person conversation with Charlie when he visited Ohio on August 25, the last time I ever saw him in person. We had a very private conversation, just the two of us, one on one. What's an American?

[Andrew Colvett]

I asked him, and in classic Charlie form, he told me, I don't have the answer. But I'll tell you what it's not.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

It's not a race. I know that.

[Andrew Colvett]

But it's not just paperwork either. That much I know. I agree with what Charlie said. Charlie Kirk. Every day there's a battle for your mind Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive Fear not, you found the place for truth the voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up, here we go. All right, everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff, our not so secret Secret weapon. You're gonna love this.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Eventually.

[Andrew Colvett]

You are gonna love it. So I want to start with just a praise report from last night at Montana State University, where the Turning Point Tour, we call it. This is the Turning Point campus tour, had its next stop. And this. Look at these images for you watching at home or on the stream. This place is packed in Montana. This is not a population center, Blake. And the amount of energy in this room was so extraordinary. They were chanting, they were jumping up and down. And then Vivek Ramaswamy left his campaign in Ohio, by the way, where he's attempting to be the next governor of the state of Ohio to come speak with our students, which just again, shows the amount of commitment that the friends in the movement have for what we're doing at Turning Point. Let's go ahead and play cut 88. And just to give you a small sample of just how raucous this crowd was at Montana State University. Sorry, sorry.

[Katie Porter]

Thank you all for joining us.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we'll get started. You wonder if that could be the. Maybe that'll just be our catch all positive chant. Almost like usa.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, I could imagine just seeing that break out years into the future just as a good.

[Andrew Colvett]

I totally agree. I'll never forget the first time I heard the Charlie chant. It was actually at Politicon in that amazing jank moment that has gone viral where he went.

[Charlie Kirk]

Where he went nuts.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The viral clip. And then Charlie walks out of the venue. I'm with him, actually. Erica was there too, and it was all these young guys just go, charlie, Charlie. And I remember going like, wow, he's lucky.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's got a nice chantable name.

[Andrew Colvett]

He's got a great chantable name. Andrew doesn't want to have syllables.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, Blake's not gonna work.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

No, no.

[Andrew Colvett]

So, but you know what? This was for me, Blake? It was like a. It was a clarifying moment because we've been through a lot in the last couple days and weeks, and there's been a lot of fixation on the who. Right? The, like, who killed Charlie. Well, you know, they've got the suspect. Okay. We feel really good about that case. It's very strong. Here's what I will say, though. What we need to make this about is the what, and that is the fact that we are back on campus, that we're talking about the ideas. We're dialoguing with students. We're dialoguing about the fact that we should be having a dialogue, that we should not be using violence, that we should not be using political violence that we need to call that out and basically root it out, root and stem from this country. Because we're seeing these very disturbing trends, and that's what Turning point is. All that is. Why you wanna know why Turning point is so important right now is because we have always been about the debate. We've always been about the dialogue. We've always been about having the conversation, because that's what America is supposed to be about. And yet there's this really disturbing story that's coming out of Washington, D.C. where a man is targeting. Has been discovered with explosives. So the Red Mass. Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, all right, so for those who don't know, the Red Mass is a thing that happens once a year around the start of the Supreme Court term. It has its roots in the Middle Ages. It's like a very formal thing that. It's like a Catholic mass that's sort of dedicated to lawyers, which. It's already a scary thing. You know, religious rituals and lawyers don't. Don't mix well. But anyway, so it's a traditional thing. Get dressed up. And it's, of course, become a big deal because so many of the conservative Supreme Court justices in recent years have been Catholic. They often go to this service, and then a lot of other Catholic lawyers will attend it as well. And so this man, Louis Gary, 41 years old, he apparently was in a tent in front of the church when police arrived to clear the area, because there were going to be a bunch of Supreme Court justices there. And then this guy clearly doesn't seem to have it all right. Be all right in the head, because he's just got a tent in front of this church. And then when the police approach, he says, get away. I have a bunch of explosive devices. They said over 200, which sounded to me like, did he have just a bunch of fireworks or something? But what it was is apparently they were all homemade. There were vials of nitromethane, and it appears he was basically making homemade Molotov cocktail type things that he told officers that the vials were intended to be used as grenades with rubber bands to secure the fuse. According to court records, he was in possession of Molotov cocktails and modified bottle rockets covered with aluminum foil and treated in a pyrotechnic solution. The devices appeared fully functional. So it seems, he said, you might want to stay back and call the federales. I have explosives. Gary said, now we're fortunate. This guy just appears to have been pretty nuts. So not really capable of pulling off A complicated attack scheme, but I think he's very indicative. Just last week, we had the sentencing of the attempted assassin of Brett Kavanaugh. That guy was a lot more systematic in his approach. He figured out, how can I, you know, how can I get a gun? How can I get an approach? He had, like, wire cutters and a knife and an act.

[Andrew Colvett]

It was a serious, very serious attempt.

[Charlie Kirk]

Very serious attempt. Flew across the country to do it, and then would have done it, except he had a failure of nerve when he saw federal agents outside Kavanaugh's house, turned himself in. And then this federal judge says, you know, I feel bad for you because you'd have to go to a men's prison. And now you say you're a transgender woman. So I'm only going to give you eight years.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

You've already served three.

[Charlie Kirk]

You could be out, you know, three years from now. And then when. You know, when. Even when his own lawyer said, like, the judge got angry when someone referred to this as a political attack, because judges aren't political. Judges aren't political.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

There's no.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's no political agenda that could come into play when possibly doing one of these. And so, yeah, we're seeing this environment, this environment that people are marinating in because the left has used this. You know, they use the fascist word a lot. They use the Nazi word a lot. They really whip people up when they. Anytime there's these rulings related to things like child gender transitions, things like that, they won't say, like, oh, this is a bad ruling. They will say they're denying your existence. They will say they are trying to destroy your right to exist. They're using this totalizing. They're going to kill you rhetoric, and loony people are taking that literally.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, and, you know, this is why, in the aftermath of what happened to Charlie, it was so important that there was all of these accounts and a major hat tip to libs of TikTok. I certainly didn't have the brain space to even do this, but I saw, you know, you go on Twitter, everybody's outing these people, celebrating, because ultimately, that is a culture that's celebrating death, fetishizing political violence. And that's why I think it's important that we were trying to get some of these people fired. I think that's completely.

[Charlie Kirk]

We need a taboo on political assassination 1,000%.

[Andrew Colvett]

Also, though, you need judges to not give leniency to potential assassins. This is the direct through line between these two cases, is that you have leniency on a potential Assassin. And then, oh, lo and behold, a week later, this happens where a guy's sitting outside of where all the justices are going to be with explosives. Yeah, he's a looney tunes. He's crazy. But you have to understand, if you do not enforce the law, if you do not punish evildoers, society will fall apart.

[Charlie Kirk]

I Love this headline. NBC 4 Washington had a tweet about this. A man who had vials of liquid was arrested outside the cathedral. Impossible. Was arrested outside the Cathedral of St. Matthew. And then it has the readers added a note. The vials of liquid were Molotov cocktails.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's one of the all time great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Speaker 2 It could have been his Diet Coke.

[Andrew Colvett]

You know, one of the all time great community notes on on X. But yeah, I mean, here's the thing. We need to make sure that the evildoers are punished. We need to make sure the taboo remains in full force, full strength. And we. And that's why people getting fired from their jobs is completely appropriate. When you celebrate violence, when you act like a vile, ghoulish person or when you're like Jimmy Kimmel and you try and lie about who's behind a certain attack and then you're gonna double down on it, then, yeah, you deserve consequences and you deserve the backlash. Because the taboo is important. Taboo is important and critical for our society. But more than that, we need actual consequences. I'm gonna tell you about one of our partners here, Tax Network usa. The government needs more money. They want your money. If you owe IRS back taxes, they can garnish your wages and levy your bank accounts. They can even seize your retirement or take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. Call the professionals at Tax Network usa. Their lawyers and enrolled agents are experts in powerful programs that may help you even eliminate your tax debt. Tax Network USA is A rated and has saved over $1 billion for their clients. Whether you owe a few thousand or a few million, they can help you. That's a lot of money to owe. So make sure you call them. In just one phone call, you can start the process of stopping the threatening demand letters, stopping the aggressive collections and resolving your tax matters once and for all. But you have to act now while you still have options. For free consultations, call consultation. Call Tax Network USA today at 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com tnusa.com this movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett Blake Neff here in the Charlie Kirk studio want to tell you about why Refi. Private student loan debt in the US totals about $300 billion. About 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. So what does Yrefi do? They refinance distressed or defaulted private student loans that others won't even touch. Yrefi is not a debt settlement company and they will work with each borrower to come up with a custom solution for you. You won't be calling some faceless call center. Why Refi can reduce your monthly payment and guarantees interest rates under 6% and they don't care what your credit score is. So that is a huge, huge thing. You need to know if you have terrible credit because you've been in debt and you missed payments or whatever, they don't care. They're going to work with you on an individualized basis. Yrefi will give you a 3 minute rate check without any credit impact. Bad credit accepted. Like I said, do you have a co borrower, do you have your parents on your loan or somebody else? You can get them off, they can get them released from the loan, give mom and dad a break. You can even skip a payment every six months up to 12 times without penalty. So again, why Refi is the best they they've been so faithful to Charlie turning Point the show and we love them. You should check them out. Call 888-yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com that's yrefy.com we'll be back in a second.

[Tom Simon]

All right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Erica wanted us to read an email that we got and that is go ahead and throw this up.308. It's a really beautiful email, Blake. Do you want to read it?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, sure, sure, sure. We got this yesterday from Jacob and he says, hello, my name is Jacob. My dad introduced me to Charlie Kirk years ago and I'm so happy and grateful that he did. I started watching Charlie's videos on YouTube and his debates and his college campus tours and I just fell in love with his enthusiasm that he had to talk to the younger generation. He not only knew how to communicate, but he let people tell their side of the story and he was not afraid of sharing truth. I'm very thankful my dad showed me who Charlie Kirk was at such a young age. I'm 28 now. I have a beautiful life, beautiful wife. We have a small kitty together and we are hoping to start a family very soon. Every day I see more and More videos of Charlie just saying how much he loved his family, how much he loved Jesus, how much he enjoyed just working and doing everything into the Lord. My best friend's fiance works for Turning Point. And we are so very thankful for all that Charlie Kirk has done for the younger generation. We hope that you, Erica, and the rest of your family and the family at Turning Point USA continue to spread the love of Jesus Christ and to keep on sharing what Charlie's purpose was here on this earth. We hope you read this and we know that God's plan is greater than ours. Praying for your family and team blessings. And Jacob. Yeah, I just thought that was an amazing one. Erica thought that was an amazing one. She wanted us to read it. We, we love these testimonies.

[Andrew Colvett]

We.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're getting lots of them. We can't read all of them, but we do love to see them. Just how much Charlie was able to change people's lives for the better.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I, I took an Uber this morning and the. The gentleman happened to recognize me, and he was. He basically was. He ended up pulling out his phone and he used to live in Chicago. Pulls out his phone. He shows me a picture with him and his wife and Charlie from Chicago. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, Charlie is the best. My wife was at one of the vigils. We just love you guys. We're just so honored. He was like, I'm honored to be giving you a ride. I was like, well, thank you. I'm honored to have the ride. And, you know, and you could tell that this guy was like, charlie helped change Arizona. He moved from Chicago to Arizona four years ago. And he said, I'm never leaving, partly because of the impact that Turning Points had in this state. But he just, you know, it was just another one of those little things where you realize just how big the reach is. And I love, I love what he said, what Jacob said in this email about promoting what Charlie was for. And that's what I said last night was such a clarifying moment for me personally, because I was like, ah, this is what it's for. You know, like, we are. We are doing the hard work and our students are the absolute heroes. Charlie was incessant. He would always say these, these are the tip of the spear. They are the brave warriors, these young men and women that are. That are spreading conservative ideas on college campuses where they're oftentimes not welcomed. At least they especially used to not be welcomed. Now, I think we've. We've seen some momentum Here. And there's more openness to have these. These debates on campuses. But, you know, and then you have all our friends, whether it's Megan or Tucker or Vivek or, you know, Governor Gianforte last night was there. We have all these campus stops coming up as well, if we want to tell you about them. I probably should tell you about them. We've got one at the University of North Dakota. I believe that's going to be Glenn Beck. That's going to be tomorrow. October 9th. University of North Dakota. Wait, that's okay. That's tomorrow. That's the one. October 16th, University of Oklahoma, we got. I think Russell Brand is going to be at that, among some others. Indiana University. That is gonna be October 21st.

[Charlie Kirk]

I say the cities because people don't always.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, that's in Bloomington. Bloomington, Indiana. October, October.

[Charlie Kirk]

LSU, 27th. Baton Rouge, Ole Miss. In Oxford, Mississippi, the 29th.

[Andrew Colvett]

Circle your calendars. November 5th, Auburn University, 1. One note on the October 29th one. That's 10,000 people at that arena. So. As big as.

[Charlie Kirk]

Fill it.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, fill it. No, it's. If you live. It's gonna be filled.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you live in Memphis, you're not that far away. If you live in Nashville, you're not that far away.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yep.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you live in Tuscaloosa, not that far away.

[Andrew Colvett]

Also Auburn, we're going to have. I think Coach Tuberville is going to be there. I believe Benny is going to be at that one and some others. It's going to be a really big event at Auburn University on November 5th. So this is an amazing moment that we're seeing that the entire movement is galvanized about. And I love it because it's these focusing moments where we get to talk about what we're for. And what we're for is exactly what.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie modeled, exactly what Jacob's email was about, that. You're so right. That's what this is for. It's not to. We do the debates, we argue the issues, but the purpose of this is not to own the libs. That is a tool. The tool is to allow people like Jacob to have a better life, to have a better country and people who are living out their faith, starting families, having those families be safe and successful and. And not being poisoned by all the negative things in modernity. That is what it is for.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes. Pursue the eternal, get married, have kids. You know, have faith. The good, the true, the beautiful. These are the conservative ideas that bind us together. And by the way, they were not welcome in so many of these places until a guy like Charlie Kirk goes in and, you know, makes a way for those behind to enjoy these good things that we all believe in and we all support. And so that's what we're about. That's what we're gonna keep on doing. And by the way, the momentum is incredible. The momentum is absolutely incredible. All these new chapters are getting started and we've got candidates around the country that Charlie endorsed. We're going to have one of them on next. Nate Morris out of Kentucky. Please talk to him next. Don't go anywhere.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump has a busy day ahead at the White House, which includes receiving his latest intelligence briefing. After that, he'll participate in a roundtable on Antifa. You may remember the commander in chief signed an executive order last month designating that group a domestic terror organization. He also called for an investigation into whoever funds the group's protests and operations. 47 moving forward with his agenda in spite of the current government shutdown. While hosting Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney at the White House on Tuesday, the commander in chief alluding to the shutdown potentially being beneficial for the country.

[Andrew Colvett]

But we have a lot of things that we're going to eliminate and permanently eliminate. You know, one of the things that we have is some advantage, you could say. But because of the shutdown, which I think they made a big mistake, we're able to take out billions and billions of dollars of waste, fraud and abuse. And they've handed it, you know, to order silver platter. And, you know, Russell Vogt is a serious person, very serious person. And he's sitting there and he's getting ready to cut things. And this is something that was handed to us by, I assume, Schumer. I don't, I just don't know if Schumer has any power anymore. I look at your, your leadership, I don't know who to speak to. I'll tell you what, I'm getting calls from Democrats wanting to meet. I never even heard their names before.

[Terrence Bates]

At the moment, the Senate isn't scheduled to vote on any government funding bills today. That means the shutdown will continue at least until tomorrow when new votes on reopening the government are expected. Texas National Guardsmen are making up and are waking up in Illinois, excuse me, and preparing to be deployed in Chicago. Right now, the troops are staged at an Army Reserve center just outside the city. There are also reports that some of those Guardsmen are or will be headed to be mobilized in Memphis by Friday. Memphis police chief says a group of commanders is already on the ground in her city planning for the group's arrival. The moves are part of President Trump's efforts to fight crime and embattled Democrat cities. While Democrat Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker is suing the Trump administration over the deployment of guardsmen in his state, Tennessee's Republican governor Bill Lee is welcoming the additional resources. That's a quick check of your headlines.

[Andrew Colvett]

Early treatment from socialism saves lives. The Charlie Kirk SHOW is back. All right, September is National Preparedness Month. So it's a perfect time to ask yourself some questions, like how much food do you have on hand for emergencies? How would you get clean water if the tap went dry tomorrow? What would you do if a storm knocked out power for a week? If you're anything like me, there's some room for improvement on this stuff. Luckily, our friends at my Patriot Supply are making disaster preparedness easier and more affordable than ever by giving you over fifteen hundred dollars worth of emergency food and preparedness gear for free. They just launched their Preparedness Month Mega kit and it includes a full year of emergency food, a water filtration system that can purify almost any water source, a solar backup generator and a lot more. And here's the best part. If you go to my patriotsupply.com Kirk, you can get 90 preparedness essentials totaling over 1500 dollars absolutely free. Head to my patriotsupply dot com Kirk for forward for full details. That's my patriotsupply.com Kirk. All right. We are going to bring in Nate Morris in just a second. But first there's some breaking news on the Palisades fire.

[Charlie Kirk]

Palisades fire. So that's the fire that burned like a week plus in Los Angeles.

[Andrew Colvett]

Terrible.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thousands of homes, people turning point employees turning point donors lost their homes in that fire. So a lot of people are interested in that. I believe Gavin Newsom blamed it on global warming.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yep.

[Charlie Kirk]

But in a big development today, federal Authorities have arrested 29 year old Jonathan Rinderknecht render on alleged arson related to starting that fire. They say they claim that he began the fire on New Year's Day, which then it seems like it went out and then it rekindled several days later basically like it was smoldering.

[Andrew Colvett]

Smoldering.

[Charlie Kirk]

And this is interesting. Among the evidence that was collected from his digital devices was an image he generated on chat GPT depicting a burning city.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And this might be, this is the first criminal case I know of where their Chat GPT searches are part of the evidence against them. I don't recall that. So his initial appearance is scheduled for today and he is of course presumed innocent, but we'll keep monitoring that. We don't know what his motivation might have been. He might just be a little nuts. But if he did in fact do it. But we also pay attention.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

We have a quick news clip. 92, let's go and play the. From the press conference. 92.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Today we are announcing the arrest of 29 year old Jonathan Rindernacht for igniting a fire that ultimately burned down the Palace Palisades earlier this year, killing 12 people, destroying more than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over a thousand more buildings.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's a, it's, I mean it's important to list the toll. Right. Not only the death toll which is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Still not remotely close to being rebuilt.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's terrible. It's California by the way. There's all this, there's all these rumors that they're using some of the empty lots now to put high density housing. This is one of the premier single family home areas and neighborhoods in the Los Angeles area. And it's truly tragic if they do screw up the zoning here. So without further ado, I want to bring in Nate Morris. He's running for U.S. senate in the great state of Kentucky. He's taking on the McConnell machine, which cannot be stated enough. Nate, welcome to the show. We're honored to have you. Charlie was so passionate about your race. He endorsed you, he got behind your campaign. Let's start there. You know, tell us about what that meant for you to have Charlie's endorsement, the time you guys spent together. And I think that's the appropriate place to begin this.

[Nate Morris]

Absolutely. It's so great to be here with you all. And Charlie was such an incredible human being, as we all know, an iconic and legendary human being. And I had the great fortune of, of getting to know him as I was launching or beginning to, to look at the US Senate race in Kentucky. I'm, I'm a friend of the vice presidents and he had suggested I take a look at the race and part of the, the work that I started doing was having conversations around MAGA world and Charlie was one of the people that I reached out to and got to know and he was so encouraging and so excited about this race and finally defeating the McConnell mafia here in Kentucky. He knew what a stranglehold Mitch had had on our party, how he'd stabbed the President in the back over and over again and sabotaged his agenda. And Charlie made it very clear. He said, we need someone who's a fighter. We need someone who's strong. We need someone who's going to stand up and fight like no one's ever fought before in this position. And he knew how tough this was going to be. And what he said to me was, he said, if you do this, he said, I'm going to come to Kentucky and I'm going to help you launch this, because this is how important this race is. And. And he came to Kentucky early in the summer, and we had about 1500 people show up on a. On a Monday morning leading into the Fourth of July holiday. We had folks, young people, we had grandparents bringing their grandchildren. We had construction workers that had taken time off from the job site, that had mud on their boots that were showing up. I've never seen more electricity in a room than when Charlie filled it that day and launched this campaign. And it meant so much to us.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, well, you know, Nate, what's amazing about Charlie is he had this incredibly packed schedule. I mean, it takes an army to even keep up with that schedule. And it was like a Tetris, you know, game or something, how we packed things in. And so we were. Charlie was sort of like, very good at doing events at the times. You wouldn't necessarily do an event. Right. Ideally, you do it when people are off work or at this. No, we just had to fit them in where we could. And yet, despite that, it would. There would just be an electric atmosphere and so much energy. And so let's play a clip from that event, I believe. And this is him endorsing you. Cut 74.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

I will say this. I was looking at the race. I said, is there somebody that will actually tell it like it is when he comes out of the gate, he's like, you know, I'm here to take out the trash. And here's also Mitch McConnell. He didn't quite connect the dots. I said, but, you know, I said, I like that guy. He's willing to actually call out the McConnell mafia that have been running this state for so long and willing. Willing to get in, because you better believe there's going to be a lot of attacks against Nate once you say it like this. But you know what? Take a page after President Donald Trump. What President Donald Trump did when he went into the arena was he was unafraid to call out the political class. Do you remember what he did? He called out the Bushes, he called out the Clintons. He called out the Cheneys. He called out all the Republicans that were there prior. And honestly, he opened a lot of our eyes to the corruption and the deep state that was in front of us.

[Andrew Colvett]

That was a beautiful moment, and he meant every word of it. And I can tell you, he ended up following that up with a tweet. Go ahead, throw up. Image 303. So Charlie says the entire Mitch McConnell establishment in Kentucky is pulling out every dirty trick in the book to stop Nate Morris. They hate Nate because he supports an immigration moratorium, opposes endless wars, and represents the end of McConnell's control over Kentucky politics. And Nate, this is really relevant now because there's this clip that's going viral about one of your opponents in this race, Barr, who is. Has now been caught on camera basically endorsing mass amnesty. So explain this dynamic, because Charlie, Charlie was really against the illegal invasion. He was really against actually the way we do legal immigration in this country. He really found common cause with you in that. So explain what's going on in the state of Kentucky with your opponent.

[Nate Morris]

Well, we, Charlie and I talked at length about this crisis facing our country. We're in a crisis related to our border, related to mass immigration and mass migration from the third World. And Charlie understood this better than anyone. And we would often talk. This is a fight for Western civilization. This is not just about one political cycle. This is not about just politics. This is about the fate of Western civilization. We can look no further than go across the pond to the United Kingdom. They've lost their country, and Charlie would talk a lot about this. And that same sentiment that created the problem in the UK is coming to the United States. That same kind of thinking. And in 10 years, America is going to be closer to the UK than we would have ever imagined if we don't get tough and we don't stop this amnesty and this flooding of our borders. And my opponent, Andy Barr, we call him Amnesty Andy Barr because he is for amnesty across the board. And he talked in this clip that he refers to illegals as undocumented. I mean, this is the terminology that Democrats use. He called me a nativist because I want a full moratorium on any new immigration in our country. And if you recall, nativist is what Hillary Clinton called members of the MAGA movement. And the same breath she said, basket of deplorables. So this is what I'm up against. But this is the McConnell machine, and this is what they believe. And this is what has been paying their bills and enriching them for generations.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I Totally agree with that. A couple things you said get tough. Immigration moratorium. Listen, we have a culture that we love and we adore and we love the people in this country first and foremost. We are proudly American first, America first. And so I love what you're saying. You're one of the few that has the guts to say it, so God bless you for that. Let's hear what your opponent has to say in his own words. Cut 72.

[Charlie Kirk]

What we need in immigration reform is bipartisan. We need a bipartisan solution on daca.

[Andrew Colvett]

We do need to fix that situation.

[Charlie Kirk]

For young American, young people who are undocumented, who are brought to this country, no fault of their own.

[Andrew Colvett]

We did provide a.

[Charlie Kirk]

In the bill.

[Andrew Colvett]

That I voted for in the Republican Congress, a legalization of that group that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Provided protection from deportation.

[Andrew Colvett]

Okay, so let me just stop you right there. Anytime I hear anybody talk about bipartisan immigration reform, I instantly. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you're totally right. He's using left coded language. What's going on here? Is he like a secret? I mean, I don't know. Andy. Bart, I just want to say, but like, is he like a closeted lib in red Kentucky that just knows he got to put an R in front of his name to like get ahead in politics?

[Nate Morris]

I think so. I mean, look, he is a classic throwback to that old school rhino country club Republican, the people that have run our country off a cliff, these career politicians like Andy Barr. And he epitomizes what the McConnell machine has believed because remember, Mitch McConnell, he goes around Kentucky, talks about all the power that he's had for generations. You know, he didn't secure our border. He had enough power. He could have secured the border. He could have stopped this inflow of illegals decades ago. He didn't do it. And Andy Barr is going to take up Mitch McConnell's mantle. He's going to be the McConnell 2.0 if he were to get in that seat. And that's why he must be stopped at all costs because he is for amnesty. He wants his big business cronies to be able to have cheap labor and undermine the American.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's right.

[Nate Morris]

He wants to. He, you know, this is. Illegals are flooding our system in Kentucky. I talked to a county clerk not too long ago. They're trying to process 120 languages in Kentucky.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh, dear.

[Nate Morris]

And just five years ago it was English and Spanish and now it's 120 languages they're trying to try to process. And these illegals are flooding our hospitals, our schools. And, you know, we talk, we talk a lot about protecting Social Security in this campaign. We must protect Social Security and Medicare. But we got to start by doing that, by kicking every one of these illegals off the system because they've been frauding our system. And we know that this is the crux of what this government shutdown was all about.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I totally agree. And by the way, it's a winning issue. And you're right to zero in on it and focus on it because I think you're the only guy in this race that has any credibility on basically the most important political issue of our time, the issue that got President Trump elected. And, you know, listen, you're going up against an entire machine that has deep pockets and they're going to spend it on you Wall Street. These Wall street buddies from the McConnell machine are spending it against you. So we are with you 100%. Nate Morris, natemorris.com, right? That's how people can support you.

[Nate Morris]

Yes. Come to our website, natemorris.com be part of this movement, the Patriots in Kentucky. We need your help. The Patriots around the United States. We are up against generations of political cronies, of special interests, of people that want to flood our borders, like Andy Barr, Amnesty Andy Barr. We need your help. Be part of this campaign. And we are going to defeat Mitch McConnell, his machine and everything around it once and for all and put it in the grave in Kentucky.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, God bless you, sir. It's an honor to have you on the show. Charlie was 100% behind your campaign, and we remain steadfastly in the same position. So, you know, the machine has got to go. We've got a clear house, clean house in Kentucky. We're never going to get a senator from that state that represents the base and represents what Charlie wanted, what President Trump wants, what we want on this show. So we're with you 100%. God bless and Godspeed.

[Nate Morris]

Thank you so much. It's my honor.

[Andrew Colvett]

Wonderful. I'm going to do this ad read when we get back from the next break. We'll be back in just a moment.

[Charlie Kirk]

Relentless in spirit.

[Andrew Colvett]

You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Tom Simon]

All right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, and Blake Neff, we really want to read your email. Send them in. Freedom charliekirk.com Freedom charliekirk.com so send them in. We are reading every single one. We will continue to on this mission to Read every single email. Blake, do we have anything in the email box that is that you want to float in this? 54 seconds?

[Charlie Kirk]

I got a kick out of. Jack sent us a suggestion that what causes the bad actors is political psychosis, which he suggested is a combination of heavy weed use, using too much political social media, and playing too many video games. I don't know if that's true, but I kind of want it to be true. Weed is really bad.

[Andrew Colvett]

Feel true. We got it. You know, we got to do. We got to have Alex Berenson on the show.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, just, just, just remind people weed is bad.

[Andrew Colvett]

Just for a very good, you know, primer again, a refresher course on why weed is bad. Don't smoke weed. It's terrible for you. By the way, if you care about the next generation, you should be anti legalizing weed or making it easier to get for one reason.

[Charlie Kirk]

Enough addictive things in American life that are legal.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes. But with young people specifically, it does lead to psychosis. So. And that's provable. You can't even argue with that. We're going to welcome back radio in two seconds. We are honored on the Charlie Kirk show to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries. And today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Culture and Christianity. The Alan Jackson Podcast. There's a lot of bad things. You know, speaking of that email you just read, there's a lot of bad things that are infecting people's minds and really making the discourse online or even in person really pretty toxic. This is why podcasts like the Alan Jackson podcasts are important, because what they do there is they take truth from the Bible and they apply it to actual issues that we're facing today. So gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump, the White House issues in the church, they don't just discuss the problems, but they give practical things that we can do to make a difference with these problems. We're just going to arm you and equip you to be a better citizen and to confront the challenges of our day. And every episode, Alan Jackson gives practical things that you can take from scripture. So the Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging, and you can find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson ministry is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You can find more out more about Pastor Allen and his [e-mail] all right, so Blake, we want to go SCOTUS conversion therapy. We're going to go to FBI tracking senators, phones. We have, by the way, we have Jonathan Keeperman coming up for the entire hour. It's going to be so great.

[Charlie Kirk]

We get to talk about the shock jock Hassan.

[Andrew Colvett]

We get to talk about Katie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mashed potato, Katie Porter.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did you know about that?

[Andrew Colvett]

So just so you know, like part of our struggle with hour one today is that we have all of these topics.

[Charlie Kirk]

We had a million things to hit.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. But we keep wanting to wait for, for Lomez, otherwise known as Jonathan Kieberman. The story with Lomas, just so everybody's aware, Charlie, one of Charlie's absolute favorite guests. First of all we had him on.

[Charlie Kirk]

He was instantly like, let's have him on all.

[Andrew Colvett]

Charlie was like, we gotta have Lomas, we gotta have Lomas. So he's coming on next and. But part of our struggles. We just wanted to talk about all these topics with Lomez. He was known as Lomaz online, very popular, sort of like underground. It's so great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Anytime you dox like this like liberal who's hiding behind an anonymous account, they turn out to just like be hideous looking or something.

[Andrew Colvett]

They look somebody who would hide.

[Charlie Kirk]

They look like a Portland antifa mug shot. We have that.

[Andrew Colvett]

Put that, yeah, put the antifa mug shots.

[Charlie Kirk]

So some goo, some ghoul who also looks like an antifa mug shot at. I think it was the Guardian in the uk he doxes Jonathan Keeperman and it turns out he's like, oh he has a great family and he's a top rated professor. Top rated professor. And all the reviews when he was a college professor, he's, he's a really hot professor.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh yeah, I know all the ladies love Jonathan Huberman. So yeah, he's now out. So I don't even know what to call him. Is it Jonathan Keeper? Is it Lomas? I still call him, I call him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lomas because that's what he is on X and everyone should follow him.

[Andrew Colvett]

By the way, the antifa mug shots, hilarious. I think it was end wokeness. Yeah. You've got it credited appropriately but I think the caption was now we know why they wear masks. Like when you see them you're like.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ah, you think like they'd want to keep them up because they could take off their mask and like turn whoever sees them to stone. Like Medusa.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well they certainly have some, some evil powers but usually it's just you know, throwing Molotov cocktails at federal authorities. But by the way there's that story is still going on. And you know, I think if you could find a thread for this, this hour, it's that we want to be about what we're for. Turning Point's mission is more important than ever because the taboo against political violence is eroding, which is terrifying, by the way. One of the things that, by the way, that you said yesterday, Blake, that has stood out to me is this idea that there is this incredible incentive. Should we lose power at the executive level, should we. To commit violence against Supreme Court justices, especially conservatives? I, I don't really worry about it the other way around because we're just simply not as violent as the left in the modern era. However, why that makes sense is because if you have a Democrat president, then they killer.

[Charlie Kirk]

If the KAVANAUGH assassin in 2022 had actually succeeded in going through with it, Joe Biden could have trotted out some left wing nominee and Democrats who controlled the Senate could have confirmed that person. There is a very direct incentive and that person would have been able to serve on the court for life.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm just curious, could you in theory pass any sort of law that says if you can, just to take this incentive off the board and say if somebody is the victim of political assassination, that the sitting president would have to defer the selection to the highest ranking Republican in D.C. or something?

[Charlie Kirk]

You don't want to create incentives the other way either.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, no, I'm just saying that you. Yeah, no, but I'm saying. Well, that's true. That's true. Because if, if, you know, that's a very dark thought. This is the problem sometimes that I have.

[Charlie Kirk]

Imagine. Can you.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Now you can.

[Charlie Kirk]

Could you imagine like Bader Ginsburg?

[Andrew Colvett]

They wanted her to retire.

[Charlie Kirk]

They wanted her to retire. Like we're gonna force your retirement, Ms. Ginsburg. And no, you don't.

[Andrew Colvett]

Basically the only option is to put bubble wrap around all of them, give them lots of stuff. Security, ensure the U.S. marshals are monitoring their movements. I mean, this is, this is really sick. We should, I mean, as a culture, the fact that we're even debating this, you know, God help us pray for peace. Jonathan Keeperman's gonna help make sense of all of it. More Hasanpike piker, the shock jock that shocks that story. And more in hour two. Don't go anywhere. Jonathan Keeperman's next.

[Nate Morris]

It.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, we're back here for hour two. Andrew is.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm having a technical difficulty.

[Charlie Kirk]

Having technical issues.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, in here.

[Charlie Kirk]

But we have. Do we have Keeperman, Lomez, can you hear us?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Andrew, can you hear me? I can hear you guys. How you doing?

[Andrew Colvett]

You can hear.

[Charlie Kirk]

Excellent. I can hear him. I can hear him.

[Andrew Colvett]

Great to have you a Blake Lomas.

[Charlie Kirk]

All righty.

[Andrew Colvett]

Back and forth.

[Nate Morris]

Oh, man.

[Terrence Bates]

We were.

[Charlie Kirk]

We were just saying. I don't know if you heard us, but we were really. We were really gushing about you, Jonathan. Right before the end of the first hour, we were saying there's so many topics that we wanted to hit, but we wanted to hit them with the immortal Lomas. So we were thinking the first one to hit that would be very fun is this Hassan Piker story. We have the Shock. The Shock Jock. The Shock Jock, we're calling him now. We heard for, you know, the past year the left needed its own Joe Rogan, but it turns out that Hasan Piker is just a shock jock. See, we have. This is all the video that people are reacting to. I've got a million different things here.

[Andrew Colvett]

I can help you with this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Let's do. So this was happening during a Stream.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's clip 84 of all of America's.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Much more consequential violence.

[Andrew Colvett]

OK. It's the same reason as to why America. Kaya, please, just go.

[Nate Morris]

Just stop.

[Andrew Colvett]

Jesus Christ. What are you doing? You're being such a baby. It's just. No, she doesn't want to come over.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Here to see what's up.

[Andrew Colvett]

She just wants to roam the house because she got to roam the house when I was gone.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

And she needs to literally have the same structured, regimented. Oh, I think this clip went to Trump's big baby desk immediately. I just. I hate everything. I just.

[Andrew Colvett]

I hate everything.

[Charlie Kirk]

So if it's not clear what was going on exactly there, it looks like his dog rushes over towards Hassan and he reaches and he maybe hits something or clicks something and the dog immediately bugs out. If you've had a dog, you know, that greatly resembles if you have a shot collar, like to keep it from wandering off your house, which a lot of people have, you know, to discipline your dog. But he's just using it.

[Andrew Colvett]

The invisible fence.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, the invisible fence, by the way. But he's using it to punish the dog and, you know, make it freak out.

[Andrew Colvett]

So, so my. And I. Lomas, I think I can hear you.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Can you hear me?

[Andrew Colvett]

I can hear you. Okay, good. I just want to make sure we've got our. We got our tech working again. Here's my reaction to this. Instantly. If he's willing to do this to a dog, like, and, and on and use a shock collar to harm an innocent like dog, because he's annoyed that it walked over to him as a livestream prop. What is he willing to do in other contexts, maybe to humans? We know that Hasan has fantasized, or at least described in gruesome detail, harming conservatives.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

So this is a nasty person. I oppose animal cruelty in all forms. I want to say that and I want to call on our good friends at PETA to make an example out of Hasan. I think Hasan needs a visit from the good people at PETA. Buckets of paint, whatever they want to do. This I think is a perfect opportunity for PETA to reassert themselves into the public conscious and sort of take care of this guy who clearly has no regard for animal life. And you know, I mean this like, truthfully, it's like well known that children who become sort of psychopaths have violent ideation of various kinds, are well known to be, you know, torture animals in their youth. And I think we're seeing like a familiar pattern here. The disregard for the well being of animals very easily passes over into a disregard for the well being of people. And so Hassan, please, you know, you're going to need a visit from Pamela Anderson or whoever is coming on board from PETA. I have to tell you guys something else this morning. I'm glad we're talking about this subject. I happen to be listening to npr. You know, someone's got to pay attention to what these people are doing, okay? And I am nothing if not a good patriot. And so I was, I was listening to NPR and there was a profile interview this morning on npr. And I kid you not, this is exact language. Hassan Piker. The left's Charlie Kirk. Okay, so add. Or mean to add any additional insult.

[Andrew Colvett]

Are you, are you serious? I need to find this. This is exactly why they do not deserve your tax dollars people, because they employ people. They employ idiots. That would make. And by the way, I can't tell what comparison is more insulting. Mr. Keeperman. Yeah. Charlie Kirk and George Floyd or Charlie Kirk and Hasan Piker.

[Charlie Kirk]

At least Charlie and George Floyd were born on the same day. Did you know that?

[Andrew Colvett]

No, I did.

[Charlie Kirk]

They had the same birthday. Absolutely mind blowing coincidence.

[Andrew Colvett]

That is shocking. And well, at least there are some obvious things that you could connect a few dots. Hassan Piker. There's nothing obvious about this, but. And we actually wanted to hit this story because Charlie and Hassan had a debate scheduled that will never happen at. Was it Dartmouth? Was it at your Dartmouth?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it was at Dartmouth, yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. And you know, we, we were prepping for that, we were getting ready and kind of diving into, you know, some of his ideas, if you could call them that. I think they're just pure, like animal instincts, pun intended. So, yeah, I mean, that's really infuriate. Okay, let's just play this out. What did they say?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

I mean, they didn't really have an argument. It all boils down to the fact that, you know, Piker speaks to an audience of young people on the left. And their only way to sort of like understand comparisons in this regard is who is your audience rather than what you do or what you promote or the ideas that are animating your, you know, public activism. And I mean, like either with Floyd or with Piker, it does kind of make sense. I mean, the left is offering up a kind of valorization and promotion and celebration of degeneracy and weakness and frailty. And Hassan Piker, yes, he's got like a big Twitch show, but his life consists of, and this is his own words, seven hours a day, seven days a week in that room, shocking his dog, apparently, and, you know, spouting off on Twitch on a gamer stream. Nothing wrong with gaming. I love gaming. I'm a gamer myself. Whereas Charlie, of course, at the age of 31, has built this massive enterprise that consists of not just a show, not just the talking, but, you know, you guys have employed hundreds of people, all motivated to do good action TPUSA, etc. So there's just an obvious difference between the caliber of person here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and such an important. Yeah, that's the key difference. Charlie had a show, but the show was maybe one fourth of what he did because he was, he, he was the ultimate grass toucher. He actually went out, he met the people on campus and thousands upon thousands of people. He got involved in the admin, the staffing of the admin, that grind work. He spent two months basically living at Mar a Lago during the transition because he cared so much about the staffing of the admin. And you know, he's speaking at hundreds of churches, speaking at all these campuses, speaking at all these events, doing the endless work of building Turning Point. He very much lived in the real world and that's a huge contrast to their apparent equivalent Hasan, who lives online all day.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I'll never forget that New York Times puff piece on him that said he was a. What was it? The progressive mind in a maga body. And it's, you know, like he does lift weights apparently.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, he likes guns. Okay. So. So he's super relevant now. Like the, the, the shallowness with which the establishment media is observing our culture is truly very shocking. And that's why I love what you do with your publishing company. I mean, there's actually some depth that you're making happen within the intellectual right. And I think that's really important because apparently it's escaped the left now. It is completely vapid, vacuous commentary. Jonathan, 30 seconds.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Sure. It's a completely barren landscape. The only thing the left has at this point is their rejection of Donald Trump. It's all just reaction to Donald Trump. And this is the position the right used to be in. Just purely reaction. We are now proactive and Charlie was at the forefront of that and it's our job to sort of carry that forward now.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, well said, well said. And you know, I think we, I think we should go through the breaks with Jon too. It's just going to be too much fun. So we're going to do a quick read of one of my favorite partners and that is going to be Good Ranchers. And we'll keep going with Jonathan Keeperman, otherwise known as Lomaz. So Good Ranchers, I want to take a minute to thank this truly incredible sponsor, a partner of our show who shares the same values that we stand for on the show every day. Charlie believed in putting faith and family first. And that's exactly what Good Ranchers is all about. They're a Christian American owned company delivering 100% American beat meat, beef, chicken, seafood, right to your door. No imported junk, no compromise, no funny labels. That's really like from Brazil or something. In a time when big corporations are bowing to woke agendas, Good Ranchers is standing strong for God, country and common sense. We love Ben and Corley. They're amazing people who run this company. They support American farmers, honor biblical values and provide a product that's honest, transparent and rooted in the same principles we fight for every day. Charlie was a proud customer. He trusted them and you should too. Visit goodranchers.com use the code Kirk when you subscribe for an additional $40 off plus free meat for life. That's Kirk for $40 off plus some free meat for life. Good Ranchers. Great people. We will be right back with Jonathan Keeperman. All right, we're back for the stream for podcast Jonathan Keeperman. Explore this idea that we kind of were just touching on about the barren landscape of the intellectual left. It used to be relatively reversed, I think that's safe to say, is that the left there was a little bit more robust discussion debate the Depth. You could disagree with the ideas, but it was a more robust landscape, and the right was a little bit lagging behind. But now, intellectually, we represent the vanguard of, I think, interesting thought of powerful new ideas. How is. Why is that? How did it change? And, you know, how are you playing a role in it?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

I mean, it's a complicated picture. I mean, if I'm trying to be maximally sort of charitable, I would say that a lot of this is less so, sort of the failing of the left and rather the success of the left. So what you have is a period of cultural domination for most of my adult life, most of our adult lives. And this leads to a kind of condition of complacency. They had kind of won the fight. They had taken over academia, they had taken over, you know, the media industries of various kinds. And, yeah, this. This just leads to a certain amount of maybe laziness. It doesn't require generating new ideas to produce new stuff because you. You've won, and now you're enjoying the fruits of that labor. And during this period, especially over the last decade, the right and I include you both in this. Charlie, in this, myself and a lot of people who are now coming to the FL for. In terms of, you know, taking the lead intellectually for. For the right, we were sort of the subaltern. We were in a position of weakness, of subordination. And when you're in that position, there's a lot of freedom and a lot of space to explore new ideas and sort of find, you know, exits that otherwise, you know, would be shrouded and sort of darkness or would be taboo or whatever else. So being in that situation of being subordinate, being outside the eye of the public, allows a certain freedom of thought that is very generative. And so what we're now seeing is the right taking those ideas that were generated during that. During that moment of subordination. And now that's seeing the light. This is producing a lot of healthy policy outcomes. A lot of the stuff around American nationalism, a lot of the stuff around immigration, about the coherence of population within a country and the importance of that and what that means and having sort of shared understanding of. Of language and myth and history and where you come from, all of that, and the importance of that really did come out of this ferment on the right. And so right now we're in a position to sort of strike and feed this out to the public and kind of erase some of those gains that the left had made. There's still a ton of work to do. I mean let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Exact still owns academia and owns a good deal of the media infrastructure. So we're going to have to administratively take some risks and go out there and take control of some of these institutions. But from an ideas perspective, we are way out ahead.

[Andrew Colvett]

No. And you talk about how they still own a lot of these really important institutions, one of which we saw on full display and we're going to get to it later in the hour. What happened with Comey, the fact that he didn't get a perp walk, he got smuggled in behind the scenes. You know, do you think they would have done this for conservative? Absolutely not. It's actually wildly infuriating and we're going to touch on that later. But first we're going to get to Katie Porter and that story and we'll do it when we welcome back radio. But you know, what did you call her earlier?

[Charlie Kirk]

Mashed potatoes.

[Andrew Colvett]

Katie Porter, Mashed potatoes. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't she have something. We'll get into it. I vaguely remember the reference but this is like a really, this is the reason we have to do this next is because the shock jock Hasan Piker who can't hold a candle to Charlie Kirk is this sort of this mask off moment where you see how he really is this despicable human being. And then you see Katie Porter who just even when the cameras are rolling, she can't keep it together and act in a nice way with a very well intentioned journalist. I mean it was very. Well, we're going to get there. Don't go anywhere. We'll welcome back radio.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

All right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett here, shock jock Hassan Piker, Katie Porter. Maybe don't think that they're connected but they are because these are these mask off moments and we are seeing the character of the people of the left. This is, this is, this is my running thesis. So I first need to know Blake Potato. Mashed potato.

[Charlie Kirk]

So okay, so just, just to remind people who Katie Porter is, she's running for governor of California. I believe she's currently in the house. And so she was giving an interview with I believe CBS News.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yep. Sacramento local. Sacramento.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think we should get the breaking thing is then we'll get into the potatoes.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm just so curious.

[Charlie Kirk]

So she was giving this interview where they just ask a total, you know, that total softball question like how are you going to reach across the aisle to the people who voted for the other side in the election politics 101. Let's just play clip 87.

[Katie Porter]

What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win? Let me be clear with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race can say. So you don't like this is a necessity. Necessarily argumentative. What is your question? The question is the same thing I asked everybody. You have it written and I'll answer it. And we've also asked the other candidates.

[Andrew Colvett]

Do you think you need any of.

[Katie Porter]

Those 40% of California voters to win? And you're saying, no, you don't. No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that, well, to those voters. Okay, so.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

So you.

[Katie Porter]

I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you. You're not going to do the interview with us? Nope. Not like this, I'm not. Not with seven follow ups to every single question you ask. Every other candidate has.

[Andrew Colvett]

I don't care.

[Katie Porter]

I don't care.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lovely woman. You could just, you could feel the energy. So the reason I call her mashed potatoes Katie Porter, besides physically resembling a pile of mashed potatoes, is in 20. Let's see. This is 2023. The New York Post had some documents from, I believe her divorce proceedings against a former husband. And her former husband accused her of throwing toys, books and other objects at him during their marriage and even allegedly poured scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head during a fight.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. And I believe the person that first broke this story, the comment from one of the ex staffers of Katie Porter said, just imagine what she's like when the cameras are not rolling. All right, Lomas, your turn. What do you make of this?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Katie Porter, to me, is the sort of apotheosis of liberal politics at this point. She's what I'd call a sort of longhouse matron. I kind of like the fact that people like her in the spotlight because it demonstrates perfectly the sort of personality type that runs democratic politics and runs the aforementioned institutions we were talking about. It's just at all times you're surrounded by, you know, a vice principal, third grade teacher who's slapping you on the hands with a ruler for telling, like a joke, you know, during, you know, math lesson or something. And if this is the view that, you know, mainstream voters have of The Democratic Party. That's going to be great for us and for our agenda. So I support this fully. I wish Katie Porter the best. I want to see more of Katie Porter in the news.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, you know what strikes me is that when they can't argue their points or where they just don't feel like they owe anybody an explanation for something, they just get morally indignant. And that is a cousin to some of the, this, I believe it's all related to some of the people feeling justified to do whatever they want when they disagree with somebody, whether that's political violence, whether that's moral indignation, turning off an interview. There is this sense that they don't deserve to explain themselves, they don't owe it to anybody, which is they don't deserve to be questioned, which is like a phenomenally striking moment for somebody running to be the governor of the largest economy state with the largest economy in the country.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And also just you get that element where almost certainly this is a left leaning news operation that she's interviewing with. And you'll actually, if you talk to liberals enough or just see them in their own habitat, they often have this belief that the media is right wing. I recently saw this kook on X who said that the Washington Post. Is this like far right paper now.

[Andrew Colvett]

Oh, because of Jeff Bezos or.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

You know, just it's no passage press, I'll tell you. Yeah, you know, but yeah, you know what's, you know, what's interesting is that I will say as somebody who's had some experience in California, there's such a lack of input from conservatives now in the state that some of the journalists want to kind of get into. They want to get a piece of that action and kind of act like conservatives still play. And by the way, there's millions of amazing patriots in California. You were professor at UC Riverside. I mean, you know, I had, you.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Know, I've known Porter for a decade because she's from the Irvine area, which is where I taught at UC Irvine. And yeah, people forget California has more Trump voters than any other state in the country. There are millions of Trump voters in California. There are very good people there. I was kind of hoping that after the LA fires, California would sort of find its way back to at least a more conservative way of doing politics. That was in the air for a little while. I think there's some possibility of that happening maybe. But you know, the thing that's going on in California, I'm an example.

[Andrew Colvett]

Let me put one pause real quick. We gotta take a quick radio break. We're gonna keep going on the stream and on Rav, so hang right there. All right, Lomas, we are back. You are, you're, you're giving us your insights on California, which are really important for people to know, especially today, by the way, when they, they, they've arrested somebody in the Palisades fire. Something you just reference.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

So I mean, look, you know, California is the crown jewel of the country, that's my opinion. And it's a huge mistake for conservatives just to write it off. And it's the same problem with conservatives saying that, like they hope Mamdani wins in New York because, you know, these coastal elites deserve what they get. Well, actually we want to preserve the best places in this country and make them better. We don't want to see them to get worse. The problem in California is multifold, but one of which is that normal middle class people who want to raise kids, want to have families, want to have decent jobs, have left and they're leaving en masse. And California actually has net out domestic migration, so natives are leaving more so than people coming in. So it's a state that's increasingly run by the left, by coastal liberals, quote unquote, but also masses of immigrants who just don't have the same sense of inheritance of this place that, you know, California natives have. So it's a place that I want to see rescued. And, you know, I hope one day for a reconquista of California.

[Andrew Colvett]

Reconquista, that's, that would be a beautiful thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

It would be beautiful. And he's right about the scale of it. We're talking, we're not talking, you know, tens of thousands, if you count just American citizens moving out of California. The net difference between people moving in and moving out, we're talking, I think at this point over a half million people since COVID hit. Yeah, that's a lot of people.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Well, and I can tell you spending a lot more time in Phoenix lately that you hear about that with even the, the realtors and the housing prices and things like, things like that. Because there are a lot of Californians coming here. There's a lot of Californians going to Texas, Florida, Tennessee, the, the Montana, Idaho. It, the, the outflow is incredible. And they seem to think that they're doing just fine because they've got illegal immigrants.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just looked at myself. It's over one and a half million.

[Andrew Colvett]

People since COVID Since COVID yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

They had about net, I think 400,000 in one year at One point, it.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Was really anecdotally the townhome complex we were living in when we had our first kid and moved out. Every single family that is every single English speaking family with kids moved out over the course of 2020 that we knew.

[Nate Morris]

Jeez.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. I mean, it's a very bad negative feedback loop. It's a cycle that fuels itself because when one good family leaves, I can tell you as somebody who spent time in California, that you grieve the loss of that family and that inevitably are going to Nashville or they're going to some. And then you're just like, what am I doing holding on. And that psychology ends up playing quite a role. And so while we're on to California, I think we should just keep hitting Katie Porter. This is a 2022 clip where she is talking about inflation, Biden inflation, and how that that just reinforces the need for abortion because, you know, that's not a non sequitur or anything. Cut 95. How does inflation compare to this newly important in the sense of the Supreme Court decision pending abortion issue?

[Terrence Bates]

How do those two issues compare?

[Katie Porter]

Well, I don't think they compare. I think they actually reinforce each other. So the fact that things like inflation can happen and can become more expensive to feed your kids and to fuel your car is exactly why people need to be able to be in charge of how many mouths they're going to have to feed. So I think the fact that we're seeing this jump in expenses, that we're seeing people having to pay more in the grocery store, pay more at the pump, pay more for housing, is a reason that people are saying I need to be able to make my own decisions about when and if to start, start a family. So I don't think we're going to see them. I don't think it's about comparing them or contrasting them. I think they reinforce for people just how big of a responsibility it is to take care of a family.

[Andrew Colvett]

Jonathan Keeperman, one minute before we have radio back, is the Democrat Party a death cult?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

I mean, when you hear stuff like that, it's hard to deny the case. I mean, could you imagine looking at the price of eggs and it's $7 for a dozen of organic eggs versus $6, and you decide that's going to be the reason I'm going to have an abortion? I mean, this is like really sick, vulgar, disturbing stuff. And if that's the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party. Yes. Then I think you have to say this is a death cult.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Golly, that clip, I remember when that clip came out because we hit it on the show and Ghastly woman. It's just ghastly.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

How really is shocking.

[Andrew Colvett]

How is this woman allowed in polite Democrat society?

[Charlie Kirk]

Like how is she actually is polite democrat society.

[Andrew Colvett]

This is the polite version. This is the polite version. I mean she could be shocking her dog.

[Charlie Kirk]

She at least hasn't dyed her hair yet. Like she's not, she's not even at level eight on the scale.

[Andrew Colvett]

Where's the nose rings? Yeah, she's like the, she's wearing like a conservative skin suit or something. You know, I guess that's the OC rubbing off on her. But I mean this is really like how far we've fallen.

[Nate Morris]

Wait, hold on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wearing a conservative skin suit. She's wearing at least two or three skin suits.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, like here we go now.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

It looks like a Roald Dahl character. You've read any rolled all with your children.

[Andrew Colvett]

We're going to welcome back radio. Just one sec. Delivering six times stronger natural immunity to fake news. It's the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff and Jonathan Keeperman, also known as Lomez. I'm going to tell you about one of our partners and then we're going to talk about Comey. I think unless we have more Katie Porter jokes, I'll leave that to you. I realize there's a lot of choices out there when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there's new ones popping up all of the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines fighting for our God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the main networks. They are not only fantastic. I have a Patriot Mobile phone as well. I got two of those three main networks on my phone, which I highly recommend. You never know when you're going to be in an area where there's not service on one of them and so you switch over to the other one. It's come in handy multiple times. But Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you. Call 972 Patriot today 972 Patriot or go to patriotmobile.com forward/charlie. Use promo code charlie for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com charlie or 972 Patriot. You can call that 972 Patriot and make the switch today. These are good, good people. Patriots, and they're standing by this show and I love them for it. Do you want any more Katie Porter jokes or.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, people talk about her being kind of like a Dolores Umbridge of. People have read Harry Potter, which I think we have to be kind of pro Harry potter now because J.K. rowling is.

[Andrew Colvett]

She's pretty.

[Charlie Kirk]

Based on important issues.

[Andrew Colvett]

On Kia. She's still a lib, but she's not. I don't know. You know?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, my friends and I were debating, does she have a greater resemblance to mashed potatoes or a potato or a sack of potatoes? Different potatoes in trouble.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, here's what I was. Potatoes are great. Oh, yes. Anyways, that's more singular potato.

[Charlie Kirk]

That kind of brow is very potato shaped.

[Andrew Colvett]

We don't like to. We don't want to insult people's looks. We want to talk about their ideas. Blake. Which are just bad enough. Oh, here's one. One more Katie Porter clip. Lomas, if you'll indulge us. Cut. 94. This is Katie Porter calling pedophilia an identity. So that's. We'll see how this plays out. 94.

[Katie Porter]

This allegation of groomer and pedophile. It is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their identity, their sexual orientation, their gender identity.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, Katie Porter.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lgpt. I guess.

[Andrew Colvett]

Katie Porter. When you sexually assault and abuse young kids, that is criminal. That's not an identity. That's an action that is evil, and they should be punished to the full extent of the law. Lomas, I want to let you chime in here.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah. I find this shockingly vulgar and, like, despicable on every level. But as a political matter, I do think the existence and prominence of people like Katie Porter is a good thing for us. I mean, this is the opposition that we want to be arguing with in front of the public. It is just intuitively obvious which side is good versus bad, which side is deranged, which side is behaving in a rational way. So for all the faults of the right, and there are plenty of faults, and it's a kind of messy time in which we're trying to figure out how to move forward in this new environment. Having people like Katie Porter be the face of the Democrat party is a great thing for us. I just want to, you know, point that Out. We shouldn't be too hard on.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, it does provide a really good foil. And you kind of remind me of that, you know, very successful ad campaign during the camp during the 2024. 2024 run, which was, you know, Kamala Harris is for they. Them. Trump is for. For us.

[Charlie Kirk]

She's now. She's for the pedophile community.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, but the identity. Because that was the moment where. Where Kamala Harris basically, you know, caught on camera saying, yeah, I'm gonna fund all these trans surgeries for prisoners. Yeah, of course. It doesn't matter if they're illegal or illegal. And that clip was shocking to people. I think when people see this stuff, that this is from a prominent mainstream Democrat, and it's shocking stuff. And she's just, you know, obviously, she's got a history of treating her employees very badly, her staff very badly. I got an email here from Glenn. This will be our transition. He said, do you plan to discuss the summons afforded to Comey instead of an arrest warrant that allowed the snake to slither into the courthouse and out unseen without being perp walked into the front door in handcuffs and leg restraints like they did with Bannon and Navarro.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I wanted to have the first response to this and see if you guys disagree, because we discussed this when he was first indicted on. On our thought crime show. And I kind of thought, I'm actually okay with not having the public perp walk and, like, making a big show out of the. Out of a mug shot, because I think that's how you get into bad patterns. Look at what happened to the Democrats with Donald Trump. They were obsessed with perp walk. Donald Trump get the mug shot of Donald Trump. And now we know two years later, that was a huge mistake that made Trump stronger, that they were fixated on these superficial things. Because perp walking someone is not convicting them. It is not imprisoning them. It is not politically disempowering them. It is a superficial thing. And if you're making a case against Comey that he committed crimes, the important thing is to make sure the case is strong, that you can get a conviction of it. The important thing is not getting a perp walk of him. That is a superficial thing. So I'm gonna disagree with people a bit on that.

[Andrew Colvett]

Now, you've been consistent on this. You. You are demanding real accountability, real results. You want a real sentence. If we're gonna bring. Bring this, it needs to be. If your water tight.

[Charlie Kirk]

Comey is strong. It shouldn't need a perp walk to make its point.

[Andrew Colvett]

Jonathan Keeperman, your take?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah, I mean, I'm persuaded by this. I think Blake's right, and I think this speaks to a general tension that, you know, the Trump administration is trying to deal with, which is, on the one hand, you want to signal to your base that you're doing something and you're treating this asymmetry and power that, you know, we've seen over the last decade or at least five years. You're treating that seriously and you're taking. You're making steps. You're taking steps and making moves to rectify that asymmetry. The base wants to see this. They want to see Comey being perp walk. On the other hand, the general public doesn't want to, you know, see anything that looks abnormal or that looks too vindictive. They want normal politics. They want sober, steady, normal politics. They want real justice. They don't just want the symbols. They don't just want the ostentatious display. And so I think Blake is right. A little bit of forbearance here, a little bit of prudence from an optics perspective, which is the calculation that matters here. This is about optics, is well within what the Trump admin should do. Don't make a martyr out of this guy. Remember what happened with Trump with those mug shots that became this galvanizing moment for people on the right. It was used as a way to roil the base. We don't want to give them photographs and these events to galvanize them. They really have nothing right now. They have Katie Porter.

[Tom Simon]

Okay.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Who sold with Katie Porter, who sold.

[Charlie Kirk]

More T shirts with Trump's mugshot on at the left or Turning Point.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I don't know that we did.

[Charlie Kirk]

Didn't we have the Never Surrender? Maybe that was someone else.

[Andrew Colvett]

No, the Charlie Kirk show did, but I don't think turning.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, yeah, the separate organization. Sorry, shouldn't mix them up.

[Andrew Colvett]

But no. And listen, I am persuaded by this a little bit, but I also do want to give some credence to the base that's, I think, justifiably enraged at this double standard that we've all been forced to live through. I mean, Steve Bannon, who was on Real America's Voice before this show, was paraded around, and the indignities that he was forced to suffer are extreme. And I understand people getting incredibly pissed off about that. I understand people getting upset about what happened to Peter Navarro. I understand the indignities that lawyers that defended Trump or that helped him in the after 2020 that they've been forced to suffer through. So I completely understand the impulse, and I think it's kind of what Trump would say, though. The best vengeance is success. So if we want to get back at what we have been forced to suffer through, to your point, the success of an indictment, meaning that that Comey actually gets punished for his crimes, his alleged crimes, that he actually would serve time in jail, serve time in prison. That is success in these instances is really critical. And by the way, all of these stories about that Tulsi Gabbard helped reveal and some of the shenanigans that were going on from. It looks like the highest level with Obama and Clapper and Brennan to essentially tie Trump into this to the Russiagate scandal and basically rob two years of his presidential campaign. We haven't taken our eyes off that ball either, so. And Comey was right in the center of that. And, you know. Go ahead, Blake.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have late breaking Katie Porter takes from our viewers. Susan has a super important question. Did Katie Porter ever sit on her poor ex husband?

[Andrew Colvett]

Like, you are just, you know, what this. See, this is where Charlie would rein him in. And so it was, like, left to me and Charlie, you know, like, this is gonna, you know, send me a sign, Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you don't like it, send me a sign.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

You want Blake Neff unleashed?

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, Blake.

[Charlie Kirk]

Shot caller.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm gonna have to get your shock collar. And you won't be an innocent in this because you haven't got. Okay, thank you, Susan, for, you know, helping Blake get to get to the point. So we have another email from Jean, I believe, based on these clips you showed, Katie Porter reminds me of the woman in Broward county who have run for office and who we, the local gop, defeated with the right candidate. These are women who spout these ideas, yet they portray themselves as moms and representatives of women's issue. That's a really very key point. They do. That's what I'm saying. They present themselves as this moderate, sensible person, and then you actually, the mask off moments really, I think, tell a lot about somebody's underlying ideology. And I think that's very, very true with Katie Porter. So, okay, Ramthan, I guess, says why? Or this is Sana. Sorry, why has he given a. Why was he given a summons rather than an arrest warrant?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so that's kind of what I'm getting at. He responded to the summons. He went in, he entered his plea secretly. Well, okay, but we know what the plea was already, and we should. We are conservatives. We actually want to uphold the system. And so you do want, if a person is going to come in and respect the system, we don't need to kick in the door and, you know, drag James Comey in. And if you're going for that, I think you're too focused on the TV show of what's going on and you want to avoid that temptation. It is a bad impulse in my opinion.

[Andrew Colvett]

You do want to avoid making martyrs out of people that do not deserve the label. And I think that's ultimately where I landed with Kimmel. I was enraged at first, but I also want him, I want his show just to go away because it has bad ratings and it's costing the network too much money. And it will, he will be the, the, it will go out with a whimper is much better for some of these.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's a lot of short term emotional satisfaction from doing sort of performatively over the top or even cruel things to your opponents. And I think again, that's why I point towards the Trump stuff because there was a lot of that with Trump and his supporters and I think that's how they squandered a lot of their political advantage during the Biden years. Threw it away and they got Trump reelected. People saw it and it was very off putting and we want to make sure we don't go too far. You want justice, of course, like we want to, for example, deport illegal immigrants. But you don't want to do performatively over the top stuff with it necessarily.

[Andrew Colvett]

You don't want to give the left tools to sort of attack you and.

[Charlie Kirk]

Undermine on something that ultimately doesn't matter.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. So we're going to take a quick break and we're going to keep going on the stream and on rav. So don't go anywhere. We're going to keep going. Look at Leandra here. The Wade team. Blake Neff unleashed the way Tucker advocated for Blake. I want Blake Neff unleashed. Waiting for his super based takes on.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to have unlimited potato related takes.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

We need seven hour Blake Neff streams on Twitch.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to regret that. Unleashed seven hours of me ranting about the Roman Empire.

[Andrew Colvett]

So this is from Susan. She goes. Because we just read her email, she goes, my husband said you would never read that about Katie Porter. Lol. No, we got you. We are committed to the email freedom. Charlie Kirk.com please keep sending them Lomas. I wanna give you the opportunity just to kind of reflect on Charlie because we haven't gone there yet because my, I think I was planning on Leading with it. And then my headset. I had an issue, and we just got into the news, but I want the floor is yours. I mean.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Well, you know, this is tough. I mean, it's still raw. I know you guys. It's raw for you guys, too. And it's still taken me, like, I'm in these waves thinking about the significance of it from a sort of, like, political, cultural standpoint. And then there's also just, like, the personal element to it. And, you know, separating these two things out and trying to think about them rationally has been really difficult. And, you guys know, both of, you know, sort of, like, privately, we've had a lot of conversations, you know, before everything happened, how much I respected Charlie, and I really felt like Charlie was at the center of what was going to happen next on the right. And this was pretty obvious. This is not a novel take. It's also not hyperbole. We're seeing, even in his brief absence here, things start to kind of fray without his presence in the middle, sort of binding all of these different factions together. And he was someone who could speak to everybody. Everybody could trust him. I think one thing we're seeing, too, and even with some of the quote, unquote, controversies, like with the text messages that were revealed yesterday, not getting into the specifics of what was said, but what was revealed to me was Charlie was a loyal friend. And loyalty really is the first principle of any political movement, of any political group, and of any political act. You have to be able to demonstrate loyalty. And loyalty transcends these kinds of ideological differences and even differences that really matter, differences that are meaningful. Being able to talk to people, being able to talk to allies, people who are on your side across those differences and mediate between different parties who have disagreements on different issues. Charlie really was that guy at the center of the right. And in his absence, it remains to be seen what happens without him. I worry about it a little bit. I don't see any obvious replacement. You can't replace someone like him. The best we can do is all pitch in a little bit and try to model ourselves on Charlie's example. I've said this before previously on a podcast, but I'm 10 years older than Charlie. But in many, many, many ways, Charlie was a better man than me. And I want to be more like that. And I think people should start thinking, how can I be more like that? Not necessarily in terms of the beliefs, the ideology, although that's good, too. But how can I act as a centering force for this coalition. How can I push towards more agreement, more positive action, more policy wins, rather than how can I better serve my own ego? And a lot of people think about the latter. They think, how can I serve my own ego? Charlie never did that. And I think a lot of us could take a very important lesson from that, and I implore people to think about it in those terms. The other thing, on a personal level, you know, he's a man with a family and a wife and kids, and it's very similar to, you know, my own circumstances in many ways. And it's a tragic, tragic loss for people know him and his family. And I do want to say I have to give you guys credit one second. For what you've done in his absence.

[Andrew Colvett]

I appreciate it. We're going to welcome back radio and back to you in just one sec. All right, Final segment of the day with the one and only Jonathan Keeperman, also known as Lomez. For those on radio that didn't hear it. We're. We're. You were just talking about what Charlie meant to you, what he meant to the movement. And so, please, I don't want to cut you off.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah, no, it's fine. I mean, you know, it's hard to wrap your arms around what a big loss this was. And I was just moving into the sort of the personal tragedy of it. And, you know, we have to remember here, too, that, like, the people you see on the screens, the people talking, these are just people. These are just guys with ideas and a vision for the country. And we. You know, the thing I would like for us to do is remember Charlie as a model. And I want us to think about, from, again, a policy standpoint, what we might be able to do to memorialize him in a more permanent and durable way so that he maintains this central focus as a kind of model for how the right ought to be in the future.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. And, you know, for those of us that are here, you know, trying to make much of his legacy and remember his life and to celebrate all the amazing things that he's done, I can tell you, it's. It's the most overwhelming thing. I had a friend who looked at me kind of in the midst of some of this last week, and he said, we picked a hard job. And he's like. And, you know, in Charlie's absence, it just got infinitely more difficult. And I was like, yeah, man, that's a massive understatement. But, you know, I do. The real legacy of Charlie is one of faith. Faith in Jesus, faith in God, faith in this country. And so I know that God doesn't call us to anything that he's not going to equip us to accomplish. I know that it is a tremendous loss. But I also know that God is with us. I've never in my life felt the prayers of strangers. I feel them daily. Every day. I get so many people texting, we're praying for you. We can't stop praying for you. We can't stop thinking about Charlie. And so I know that God's plans are bigger than ours. I know that he has a vision for this country. There's a harvest that Charlie has helped ignite in this country. And my prayer is that we would not let any of the controversies overshadow his legacy, his true intent. And I pray that we would not let it divide the coalition and the movement or that it would come back and hurt Turning Point, because Charlie loved Turning Point with all of his heart.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just before we came back, Jonathan mentioned Charlie's humility. And actually that was such an important part of it that Charlie got so big, yet he was never a megalomaniac. He was never a narcissist. Every time good things happened, he'd say, all on God, put it all in God's hands. And that was so important to his growth, his staying power, and why his movement was so positively oriented. I believe, and I think that's one of the most underrated aspects of how his faith guided his actions, that the success never went to his head because the success was always something given to him from above.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Jonathan Keeberman, Lomez on X. The last two minutes. The floor is yours, my friend. Friend?

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I. Aside from just the humility, which obviously is incredibly grounding and allows people to sort of persevere and not lose sight, lose perspective, Charlie was also a positive force. And, and this is the other thing that I see, you know, creeping in a little bit to the right going forward with this kind of embittered, resentful tone where everything is sort of steeped in a kind of sense of vindictiveness and revenge and a sense of hurt that needs to be accounted for, a sense of grievance on the right. And I don't think the right should have that as the prevailing attitude. They should take instead the example of Charlie, again, which was his, this sort of positive tone, a positive vision, a sort of trust in the good to prevail over the bad that is often conflated and confused for weakness. It is not weakness. There is plenty of strength in being positive. And it's also not naivety. Charlie was not naive. And so you can be positive. You can have a positive vision without suffering from some of these other deficits. And again, I just hope that as a movement, as a political coalition, we can take some of those traits on board.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. I mean, two of the guiding principles of Turning Point from the very beginning were grassroots humility and being a happy warrior. And that's how I would sum up kind of what we're talking about. These are guiding principles that are on the side of the walls in the offices and grassroots humility. Always be willing to get your hands dirty, to lend a hand, to do the thing that is maybe not glorious or illustrious or you're not going to get your name on a marquee, but to do it anyways because it's the right thing. Get register voters, you know, hand out clipboards and tennis shoes, work. And then happy warrior. And I think that Charlie exemplified that because he always had that smile on his face. It was electric. It was magnetic and super. It was just super inviting to so many people. Jonathan Keeperman Lomas, thank you so much.

[Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez)]

Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it.

[Andrew Colvett]

See you tomorrow.

[Terrence Bates]

Terrance Bates here with your Real America's Voice NEWS break. Thanks so much for being here with us. Lawmakers around the country are just now beginning to take steps to protect homeowners from home title theft. Texas lawmakers, for instance, are working to strengthen statewide protections and add penalties for notaries who prepare fraudulent documents under a measure that's being considered in the state legislature there, county clerks would also be allowed to investigate and reject suspicious filings. However, those sorts of legislations just aren't commonplace. So how can you protect yourself? Former FBI special agent specializing in white collar crime, Tom Simon joins me now with more. Tom, good to see you.

[Tom Simon]

Thank you so much for having me on.

[Terrence Bates]

So let's talk about home title theft. How prevalent is it and how difficult is it to uncover? Well, let's put it this way, to uncover before it's too late.

[Tom Simon]

Well, uncovering it before it's too late is always the issue. Right. Is trying to find. It's very it's a very common crime. It happens a lot. The stats are not entirely clear because a lot of these things are handled civilly. And as you pointed out in your introduction, not every municipality has laws addressing this, but we see it a lot. And it's in how you asked how difficult it is to detect it. And what that requires is monitoring your home title nearly Every day. And that's a lot of work for most people.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah. And that's where home title lot comes in. We'll talk more about that momentarily. But it seems to me, just as a layman, that county clerk's offices would have some sort of system in place, place some sort of safeguards to keep people's titles safe. Even though it's public record. It seems that there will be some sort of safeguards in place, but that's not necessarily the case.

[Tom Simon]

It's not the case because by statute, the county clerk's job is not to verify the authenticity of the deeds coming in to transfer title ownership of your home from. From you to someone else. Their job is simply to record those deeds in the public record. So you're smart because you identified this as the weak link in the chain and it is because no one is watching the store.

[Terrence Bates]

Should lawmakers be doing more to try to change what has been tradition, if you will, but to update it with time, do you think? Do you see that as a place for lawmakers? Should more lawmakers be getting involved?

[Tom Simon]

Without question. I think Texas new law that I consulted with the legislature there on is a step in the right direction. A fraudulent deed transfer is a real crime with real life victims. The problem is that even the Texas law doesn't restore the home back into the previous owner's name. So that person has some hefty legal ahead of them.

[Terrence Bates]

And that's where home title lock comes in.

[Tom Simon]

Exactly. What they have is they have what they call a triple lock home protection, where they're going to do 24,7 monitoring of the status of your home title. And if there's any issues or if it's transferred or a lien is placed on it, you're going to receive notification. And if, God forbid, some bad guy gets away with stealing your home, they have a restoration team in place that's going to spend up to a million dollars to get that home back into your name.

[Terrence Bates]

Just out of curiosity, who's most at risk of becoming a victim to this sort of fraud?

[Tom Simon]

You see it a lot more with the elderly and the vulnerable. But I would argue that any American who has equity in their home, and for most Americans, that's our largest part of our net worth, is the equity in our home is vulnerable because then somebody can just file a deed with the county clerk's office with a fraudulent notary stamp, and next thing you know, that property is transferred into their name and then they can begin drawing on that with loans that they never intend to pay. Back even know it happened until the foreclosure notices start arriving in your mailbox months later.

[Terrence Bates]

And that's the scary part, I would think, is that a lot of people are victims and don't even realize they're victims until it's way too late. And then they really have to fight.

[Tom Simon]

That's the problem. And law enforcement is often just not equipped to deal with this or they'll just regard it as a civil matter. The police are great. I love the police. Right. But they're not really always on top of things like this when it comes to esoteric white collar crimes. Which is why I think people need some kind of monitoring service to keep an eye on their own home title.

[Terrence Bates]

For folks who may want to start the process with Home Title Lock, how they how can they get in contact with Home Title Lock?

[Tom Simon]

They just go to hometitlelock.com and begin that process there. The home title lock makes it easy on you. I liken it to a smoke detector in your house. You hope you never have to use it, but it's going to give you peace of mind and let you sleep better at night knowing that someone is keeping an eye on your property.

[Terrence Bates]

Absolutely. Hometitlelock.com the information is there at the bottom of your screen. Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate you giving us that information. Really useful information for those of us who are trying to protect our homes. Well, that's going to do it for this real America's Voice News break. I'm Terrence Bates.

[Andrew Colvett]

This is an I Heart podcast.