The Charlie Kirk Show, September 8, 2025

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show — September 8, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Charlie Kirk, joined by Alex Marlow, Vivek Ramaswamy, Senator Rick Scott, Megan Basham
Date: September 8, 2025

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Overview

This episode explores the rising crime rates and perceived decline in public safety in American cities, contrasting the situation with cities like Seoul and Tokyo. The discussion covers the consequences of progressive criminal justice reform, race and media bias, the role of national identity, and the political implications for the upcoming elections, particularly focusing on the mayoral race in New York City. There are also conversations about the failures of religious leaders in addressing certain societal issues and a deep dive into cultural trends, especially relating to family, marriage, and happiness among American men and women.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Crime and Safety in American Cities vs. East Asia

• Seoul/Tokyo vs. American Cities:

  • Charlie Kirk shares experiences from South Korea and Japan, highlighting the utter cleanliness, lack of crime, and high societal trust in these countries ([06:10]–[16:00]).
  • Contrasts these cities with the decay, crime, and lack of public safety in U.S. cities, attributing problems to progressive criminal justice reforms and tolerance of crime.
  • Quote:

    "As soon as you walk out of the hotel, there's no bums, there's no people asking you for money. ... You walk six miles, everything is clean, orderly. They take pride and responsibility over their public spaces." — Charlie Kirk [10:07]

• Specific Tragic Incident:

  • The murder of Aryna Zarudska, a Ukrainian refugee, on a Charlotte train is discussed extensively ([16:00]–[24:00]; [55:29]–[73:04]).
  • Charlie Kirk and guests argue that such violence is directly linked to failures in U.S. criminal justice and racial equity policies.
  • Quote:

    “Situations like this are nearly daily occurrences in our cities. ... She survived a war but couldn’t survive progressive criminal justice reform.” — Charlie Kirk [15:24]

• Comparison with East Asian Law Enforcement:

  • Law and order, strict sentencing, and a high-trust society were credited for public safety in countries like Japan and South Korea ([44:11]–[49:00]).
  • Kirk denounces claims that gun control alone explains East Asia’s safety, instead citing cultural cohesion and homogeneity.

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2. Race, Media Bias, and the Narrative Around Crime

• Selective Outrage and Media Silence:

  • Widespread frustration is voiced about national media failing to cover the murder of Aryna Zarudska, while incidents like George Floyd’s death received intensive coverage ([56:24]–[66:12]; [76:14]–[84:37]).
  • Guests argue this reflects a deliberate narrative bias that highlights crimes fitting progressive racial themes and ignores others.
  • Quote:

    “If a random white person stabbed a black person for no reason, it’d be an apocalyptically huge national story. Instead, no one seems to care when a white woman gets stabbed to death.” — Charlie Kirk [56:11]

• Analysis from Breitbart’s Alex Marlow:

  • Explains that corporate media’s silence about certain crimes is due to ideological alignment and incentives to protect the left (and by extension, their parent corporations) ([77:48]–[84:37]).
  • Quote:

    “It just shows you...that they have the easiest opportunity ever to get a little bit of credibility just by writing up the biggest story in America. And they won’t even write it.” — Alex Marlow [77:54]

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3. Political Implications: New York City's Mayoral Race and National Trends

• Zoran Mamdani’s Mayoral Candidacy:

  • Extensive discussion on Zoran Mamdani, a socialist-running candidate, and the implications for NYC ([23:35]–[34:51]; [30:19]–[34:42]).
  • Criticism of his shifting political identity for electoral gain, and fears that socialist policies would destroy NYC’s long-term viability.
  • Quote:

    “He did a poll, that won't work for the campaign. ... I'll go back to where I really am as soon as I get elected. I mean, what a joke. Don't trust somebody like that.” — Vivek Ramaswamy [30:55]

• Republican Messaging and Solutions:

  • Calls for the GOP to address affordability crises, rising crime, and to offer tangible solutions—rather than ignoring issues that drive young voters toward left-wing alternatives ([24:45]–[27:33]).
  • Vivek Ramaswamy emphasizes the need for practical reforms (e.g., housing supply, bail reform, sentencing standards) and for focusing on financial literacy ([24:45]–[27:33]).
  • Quote:

    “Young people are going to turn towards socialism if they feel like they don’t have skin in the game, like they don’t actually own assets…” — Vivek Ramaswamy [26:00]

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4. National Identity, Immigration, and Social Trust

• Japan and Korea as Case Studies:

  • Kirk argues that the ethnic and cultural homogeneity of countries like Japan and Korea leads to higher public trust and lower crime; he warns against mass immigration as a threat to this order ([35:39]–[44:11]; [44:11]–[49:00]).
  • Suggests America cannot import unlimited diversity without endangering social cohesion, though he acknowledges America’s unique “propositional” identity.
  • Quote:

    “If you do not have a picture of national identity, then you’re gonna be in a lot of trouble.” — Charlie Kirk [37:42]

• On Diversity, Immigration, and ‘Left-Wing Colonialism’:

  • Kirk denounces the pressure on Japan to accept mass immigration, calling it a form of “left-wing colonialism” ([40:20]–[44:11]).
  • Quote:

    "Left-wing colonialism equals open borders. It is a soft form of imperialism." — Charlie Kirk [42:05]

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5. The Role of Christianity and Religious Leaders

• Failure of Pastors to Address Urban Crime:

  • Megan Basham, local Charlotte resident and author, criticizes Christian leaders for vocalizing outrage over incidents like George Floyd while being silent on crimes like Aryna Zarudska’s murder ([56:24]–[73:04]).
  • Quote:

    “They got on board with these DEI policies, and now they have suddenly very much backed away from...issues. ... That compromise comes with costs, and we're seeing that now.” — Megan Basham [72:28]

• Religious Influence on Policy:

  • Critique of churches for aligning with progressive causes in 2020 and not owning up to resulting negative consequences in public safety ([69:28]–[73:04]).

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6. Gender, Family, and Cultural Trends

• Polls on Happiness, Marriage, and Children:

  • Discussion of an NBC News poll showing a sharp divide: Trump-voting men prioritize children and family, while Harris-voting women value career success and financial independence above all ([84:37]–[89:27]).
  • Kirk and Marlow read this as a sign of declining family values, increased narcissism, and societal unhappiness among liberal women.
  • Quote:

    “Liberal women are less happy and more lonely. ... Modern women have become incredible narcissists. And that’s not an accusation; it’s just what the data shows.” — Charlie Kirk [90:53]

• Encouragement of Traditional Values:

  • Strong emphasis on returning to traditional family structures; promoting marriage and childrearing as life’s greatest fulfillment ([90:53]–[97:30]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Crime Reform:

  “We do not have enough people in prison in America. ... We need to fill them up with these types of disgusting people.” — Charlie Kirk [16:11]

• On Lawfare and Political Weaponization:

  “Lawfare lives on. It is the biggest threat right now to the MAGA movement. ... They’re working night and day to try to make Trump’s life difficult.” — Alex Marlow [89:27]

• On Socialist Governance:

  “The best way to combat the popularity of socialism is probably for people to try what the fruits of socialist policy really are.” — Vivek Ramaswamy [32:14]

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Important Timestamps

• [06:10–16:00]: Kirk’s observations on Asian cities, cleanliness, and safety
• [16:00–24:00]: Details on Aryna Zarudska’s murder; initial reactions
• [23:35–34:51]: NYC Mayoral race discussion; Zoran Mamdani’s “rebrand”
• [27:46–34:51]: Solutions GOP should propose; political dynamics in NYC and Ohio
• [35:39–44:11]: National identity, immigration, and societal trust
• [55:29–73:04]: Interview with Megan Basham: Charlotte killing, pastor response, impact of racial equity reforms
• [76:14–84:37]: Alex Marlow on media bias and the mechanics of news coverage, law and order as electoral theme
• [84:37–89:27]: NBC poll discussion: gender, marriage, and happiness divides
• [90:53–97:30]: The case for traditional family structures; closing thoughts

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Flow and Tone

The episode is assertive, polemical, and often combative, mixing news analysis with culture war rhetoric. The tone is urgent and frequently moralistic, with persistent calls for returning to traditional values and for the right to reclaim dominant cultural narratives on crime, family, and national identity.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show weaves together America’s crime problem, failures in leadership, media bias, the rise of socialist politics in cities like NYC, and broader cultural shifts undermining family life. By drawing contrasts with Japan and South Korea, the show illustrates how trust, cultural coherence, and strict law enforcement build safe societies. The discussion is critical of racial equity reforms, major media, and American religious leaders for failing to address real-world consequences of progressive policies, culminating in a call for cultural restoration rooted in faith, family, and civic duty.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Alex Marlow]

The Charlie Kirk show starts now. Well, I think that you have to understand that DC is different than every other city, but also for us, robberies are already down 33 and carjacking is already down. But wouldn't you want them down?

[Zoran Mamdani]

Wouldn't you want to down even further?

[Charlie Kirk]

I know they're saying they're going down.

[Zoran Mamdani]

But wouldn't you just take that extra help?

[Megan Basham]

The Trump administration says it will crack down on sanctuary cities. New York Times reports Boston is being targeted because of its policies to limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities. Now, in response to the reports, Mayor Wu released a statement saying today Boston is the safest major city in the country. Because we have worked to build trust in the community. We will not be bullied or intimidated into abandoning the efforts. Make Boston a safe home for everyone.

[Terrence Bates]

We know what it's about and it.

[Alex Marlow]

Has nothing to do with fighting crap. And it has. Honestly sending National Garden has nothing to do with immigration either.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

What it has to do with is.

[Alex Marlow]

He'S trying to set the stage for interference in the elections in 2026 and in 2028.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We've seen that Donald Trump use the law as a suggestion. He believes that it's something that he's above. And what he's showing is that he's willing to utilize any tool, whether those real or imagined, to shape this race. We are confident that no matter what formulation this race takes, whether it's me versus three candidates or me one on one with any one of them, will win the race. But what we cannot stand is the affront to democracy and the idea that it is a president who could pick the next mayor of the city and not the people of that same city.

[Charlie Kirk]

I believe, Kelly, that a lot of this has to do with politics and nothing to do with keeping communities safe. As you stated, if we are already decreasing our crime stance, why shouldn't we push and decrease even more? Why shouldn't we make one less victim of violence in the city of Chicago? I feel that the governor and the mayor are refusing to accept the president's help, both in terms of the National Guard as well as with additional federal agency support here in the Windy City, because they don't want to be viewed as capitulating and working with the President of the United States for their own political purposes. One wants to be president. One hopes to remain mayor, and they think that their path to victory lies in standing up to Donald Trump.

[Alex Marlow]

There are a lot of patriotic Americans who work in the administration or work at the departments or in the military who have led us know things without, you know, having permission to do so.

[Terrence Bates]

And so I would call some of.

[Alex Marlow]

That rumor, but, you know, well sourced rumors. Why would you. Department of Defense. Listen. Be quiet. Listen. You don't listen. You never listen. That's why you're second grade.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We're not going to war.

[Alex Marlow]

We're going to clean up our cities. We're going to clean them up so they don't kill five people every weekend.

[Zoran Mamdani]

That's not war, that's common sense.

[Terrence Bates]

Right now, the top one for earners in the city. We need that tax revenue to pay for some of the things you're talking about. How do you pay for it if they're gone?

[Zoran Mamdani]

And my vision is not one where they leave, it is one where they stay. It is one in part by showing them that asking them to pay more in taxes would increase even their quality of life. Many of my opponents, chiefly Andrew Cuomo, would prefer to debate a mythical version of myself than the person that I actually am. They would prefer to focus on tweets from 2020 as opposed to the platform of 2025.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

What you're really saying is truths of 2020.

[Alex Marlow]

You've evolved from that, you've changed from that. You've changed your views.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yes. Those are out of step with the.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Campaign that we are running. And it's been clearly out of step with how you feel.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yes.

[Alex Marlow]

So you've totally changed your mind. Yes. Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

You have benefited from this country, but you don't support the system, the economic system that perhaps you benefited from, is that right?

[Zoran Mamdani]

I love this country. And I'm also a New Yorker who has loved this city. And one of the things that I love most about city are its parks and its parks. And the Parks Department was founded by a socialist mayor of New York City, Fearo LaGuardia.

[Alex Marlow]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is a foolish man, full of foolish and vapid ideas. And that was on display again this, this week in front of Congress. This wholly unqualified man in charge of 25% of all government spending. President smart enough to know RFK Jr isn't belong in that job. But after he won, he wanted to show everybody I can do whatever I want to do because this Senate will be compliant no matter what I do. And I'll put the greatest vaccine and public health denier of the last 20 years in charge of public health America. It's a human middle finger, George, to everybody who opposed him. Charlie Kirk. Every day there's a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive, Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go. Okay, everybody, Radio stations across the country, honored to be with you as always. You can email us freedom charliekirk.com and we hear in the we are here in the Bitcoin.com studio. I am back fresh from Asia on Wednesday evening. Once we finished the program, I boarded a quite long flight from Los Angeles all the way to Seoul, South Korea. I was there to first speak at an event called Build Up Korea. I learned a lot while I was in Korea, and we're gonna be talking about that throughout the program. We also have Vivek Ramaswamy and Senator Rick Scott joining us in just a minute. I learned a lot. And this event, Build Up Korea, was basically a America Fest, a AM Fest carbon copy. It was so much. It learned that people really love Turning Point USA aesthetics. Look at that. That's not a Turning Point event. That's not Student Action Summit. That is Build Up Korea. And I was thrilled. I'd call it Korea Fest, but it was practically just America Fest. They love America, whether it be the pyrotechnics, the lights, the intro videos. It was basically exactly what we have proven to be successful at America Fest. They brought to Korea. It was really something to be able to meet with the South Korean patriots. Their country's totally under attack. We're going to talk about this a little bit later in the hour. The ruling party is arresting pastors, going after political dissidents. And South Korea, which is an American protectorate, is quickly becoming a less and less free country. South Korea has a ton of problems. They have the worst birth rate in the world. They have the highest plastic surgery rate in the world. And those two things really should not be the same. If you think about it, the really high plastic surgery, shouldn't people want to also then be simultaneously be getting married and having children? That's something worth exploring. So we spent some time in South Korea, and I have a ton to share with that. Then I went to Tokyo and spoke with the Sancito Party, which is a populist nationalist party that is rising up in Japan, all about kicking foreigners out of Japan, because now There are over 3 million foreigners in Japan that are very quietly and secretly finding themselves into Japanese life. They want to erase, replace, and eradicate Japan by bringing in Indonesians, by bringing in Arabs, by bringing in Muslims. The same things that we have been fighting for here. Whether it be lawfare in South Korea or mass migration in Japan, this is a worldwide phenomenon. But the thing that was the most striking and it connects with the news today in America. The thing that is the most incredible is what happens when you walk outside of your hotel in South Korea. I got up quite early the next day. I mean, your body clock gets all messed up in trips like this. So the fact I slept 7 hours and woke up at 5:30 local is like an accomplishment. Usually if you're coming from America, you wake up at 2 or 3am and you're all messed up. So I Woke up at 5:30 and I said, I'm gonna go get a cup of tea and go explore the city. And I did by myself. And it was amazing. As soon as you walk out of the hotel, there's no bums, there's no people asking you for money. They don't really put up with graffiti at all. This is the streets of Seoul, South Korea. And I walked. I walked six miles all throughout downtown Seoul, South Korea. And it's a pretty amazing thing, whether it be walking through public transportation, whether it be walking through public parks. Everything is clean, orderly. They take pride and responsibility over their public spaces. In fact, Blake and I, one evening, Blake said, charlie, I have to show you the subway station. I said, the subway station? I said, blake, is that safe? And Blake chuckled. He said, safe? The whole country is safe. I said, why is that? He said, well, they don't bring third world people and put up with 14 repeat career criminal offenders. Here's just one little taste. This is Blake and I in the subway station, not actually on the subway itself in Seoul, South Korea. Play cut 284. This is immaculate. It compared to what we're used to, right? This is unbelievable. Wait, so this is a subway Blake, you're kidding me. This card and you would scan in with it. It's only about a buck every time you get on, maybe a buck 20. All right, where are we going? This way. Do they have restrooms down here? They probably do. Although I've never used one of these things. Oh, these? Oh, this is a crane game. Like, is it all rigged? Yeah, something like that. It's all. Oh, they do have R. Okay, yeah, great. Some of them are. The video goes on for quite some time. The amount of filth, crime and violence that we put up is insane. I remember I asked someone at my hotel, like the doorman, concierge. I said, hey, is it safe to be here in South Korea. And he didn't speak great English. He said, safe. What do you mean safe? Are you worried about getting mugged or things getting stolen? He said, oh, no, no, no. Things are safe in your room. No, no, I got that. But like, you know, walking the streets of Seoul and I was trying to, of course, overcome the language barrier, you know, are you worried that if you're on a bus or a subway, something is going to happen to you? Like a car accident? No. Like, are you worried that someone's going to come and do something? Do something. It was as if I was communicating not just a different language, but a different planetary reality that someone would feel unsafe in a major city like Seoul, South Korea. Now we are a wealthier country than South Korea. We founded South Korea, which I will talk about later this hour thanks to heroism of General MacArthur. And now as I'm coming back from Asia and I'm looking what's happening in Washington D.C. chicago, and of course, the breaking news of this new footage we have of the stabbing murder of the 23 year old Ukrainian refugee Irina Zarutska, a young white lady who was stabbed to death by a black criminal by a complete stranger on a train in Charlotte. Now, you might have not seen this footage yet. This is becoming national news and the left is doing everything they possibly can not to talk about it. The media is very uncomfortable about this story. If you watch this video, this guy was sitting minding his own. She was minding her own business. He was minding her own business. She was also dressed in like baggy clothes, comes up, takes out a knife, stabs her to death. 14 times he was previously arrested 1, 4 times. 14 times he comes up and just stabs her to death. Situations like this are a nearly daily occurrence in our cities. And I'm coming back from two nations, Japan and South Korea, that are poorer than us, that are not as populous as us, and their cities are not just safer, they are different planetary realities. As if I went to Saturn and we live on Mars. We do not have to live this way. You can create a society and a culture where you can get on a train or a subway and not be Arena Zarutska and get stabbed to death in the neck because some black criminal decides, I'm just going to go do it. 14 times he was previously arrested and all of the Koch brother funded liberal criminal justice BS is the reason why guys like him are still on the streets. 14 times. Let's put this back up on screen in Irina Zarudska. Why did she come to America? She was fleeing violence in Ukraine. It turns out it's more dangerous on subways in Charlotte, North Carolina than a war zone in Ukraine. The Associated Press wrote zero stories about this over the weekend. Pbs, New York Times, npr, Wall Street Journal, BBC, cnn, Washington Post, Reuters, msnbc. Zero stories. Now they're finally fixing that. But the stories they're writing, like this repulsive headline from Axios this morning. The gruesome attack of the fatal knife attack in Arena Zarutska on a light car rail in Charlotte has MAGA influencers seeking to elevate the issue of violent urban crime. Oh, this is all about MAGA influencers now. Oh, it's not about the fact that a white Ukrainian refugee was murdered just because she was white. Everybody knows that. Obviously. Stabbed to death. And by the way, the other sick part, which has now become the new urban way, everyone just kind of sat around and didn't administer first aid for 90 seconds, just glued to their phones. We don't have to live this way. She survived a war, but couldn't survive progressive criminal justice reform. We should be more like Seoul in Tokyo. We'll be right back. Democrats. America has a republic, not a democracy. Fact check. True. Okay, everybody, welcome back. We don't have to live this way. Crime is a choice. And we're going to build that out throughout this episode here. And you guys should subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast episode the the focus of our leaders trying to say, well, we need criminal justice reform. We need more people in jail. We do not have enough people in prison in America. We do not have enough people in jail. We don't have enough people that are arrested on the side of the streets. That is a constant theme of this program. I want to tell you guys about why refi.com this Wednesday we are back on tour. That's right. This Wednesday we have a major event that is brewing at Utah Valley State University. It's whyrefi.com that is the partner with us on this campus tour. If you know anybody that has privately held student loan Debt, go to yrefi.com if your private student loan debt is keeping you up at night and ruining your life, go to yrefi.com Bad credit is accepted. 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They vilified three strike laws, but we shouldn't let them. They work. We need to arrest more people. We need more criminals. We need less accommodating criminals and we need bigger prisons. We need to fill them up with these types of disgusting people. Stay right there. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email US as always, freedomarliekirk.com, vikramaswamy and Senator Rick Scott join us, two great men who are in New York City right now trying to warn about Zoran Mamdani and what he represents. Welcome to you both. Vivek, I want to start with you, Vivek. This attack in North Carolina was obviously preventable. There's a racial component to this as well, which is a black criminal which assaults and stabs a white woman to death. And the media wouldn't be bothered when George Floyd overdosed on the sides of the side of the street in Minneapolis. Everyone decided this was the most important thing since Pearl Harbor. Vivek Ramaswamy running for governor of Ohio. What are your thoughts of this situation more broadly, the crime issue in America?

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Yeah, look, I mean, what happened in Charlotte's unconscionable, but at the same time, we wouldn't be talking about it here if it were just a one off. This is part of a national pattern. You look at my hometown of Cincinnati, look at the incidents of just a few weeks ago which share some of the same dimensions you just described. Charlie, you look at what's happening in places like New York City where I am with Senator Scott today, to la, this is something that represents a broader breakdown of respect for the rule of law in the country. And you know, in this broader conversation about who are we as Americans, that's a core part of who we are as Americans, as we believe in the rule of law. That's part of what founded this country. And the degradation of the respect for the rule of law I think is almost even more frightening than any one individual incident. And that's what we're going to have to turn around, frankly. Ohio, where I'm looking to govern, we've got. We're the state of cities. You got Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Akron, Youngstown. It's sad to watch the cities in the heartland of the country to our coasts go down the tubes. But the good news is we know how to. We know how to solve the problem you were talking about. Some of it bring back actually sentencing standards that reflect the standards of the crimes. Bail should not be granted to somebody who is a repeat offender with ease and with, you know, smooth as water. Now, for many of these people to get back out, juvenile crime is a major issue after the COVID school closures deal with the juvenile courts, even for people who are older, juveniles in ways that actually recognize violent offenders and even would be criminals for what they are. Common sense. But what we're missing is leaders with the spine to see it through. That's a big part of why I'm running in Ohio. We're going to get it done in Ohio. And frankly, if places like New York or otherwise fail, we bastions like Ohio, like Florida, like it's been in the past for people to actually pack their bags and move. And that's what we're creating.

[Alex Marlow]

Senator, Senator Rick Scott from Florida is with us. Senator Scott, what. What is your take on this situation? And we. I do want to talk about New York here, but what can the U.S. i mean, you know, acting as if the U.S. senate's going to do anything, unfortunately, is laughable because, I mean, not you, but your colleagues are quite lazy. But theoretically, what could the US Senate do to prevent repeat offenders like this from prowling our streets?

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Well, first off, you know, your heart goes out to this lady's family. I mean, I mean, you just command. You're sitting on a train, all right, and then all of a sudden some guy starts stabbing you and killing you. Meet if you think, you know, I mean, Charlie, this bothers me so much. You know, the biggest thing you can do, and I've got, look, I have two daughters, I have seven grandkids is you can't imagine anybody in your family in that situation. So we've got to do at every level of government whatever we can do at the federal level, whatever we can do at the state level whatever we can do at local level. We have to enforce our laws. We've got to put criminals in prison. They need to serve their entire sentence. Right. We cannot be soft on crime. I mean, I want my family to be safe. I want your family to be safe and the next family to be safe. So what can this, what can the citizen do is for federal crimes, right, for federal crimes, make sure the sentences are stiff and people serve their time on top of that. We need, we need to help our local law enforcement every way we can. I'm very appreciative what the President has done in D.C. what this guy's done. I mean, D.C. is a place where I didn't want to walk around. Nobody wanted to walk around in D.C. it's not safe to walk around in D.C. what he's done in D.C. is he's made it a place that you can walk around. Now there's way more people outside now walk around in D.C. than there was before the President brought in the National Guard. So. But every mayor, every governor, and we've got to all say this is the most important thing we ought to be doing right now. Keep people alive, keep people safe.

[Alex Marlow]

Senator, what is. Just a minute here. We're going to blow both the brakes, but really quick. Why are you, why are you in New York? What is the significance of that, of your trip?

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Well, what I'm trying, what Vivek and I are trying to do is give people in New York enough information to make better decisions. This idea that the center of capitalism, New York City is going to elect a socialist that wants to defund the police, eliminate opportunity, open up a, a city run grocery store is okay, is anti Semitic. I mean it's just socialism is horrible for everybody. So what we're trying to appear to do is just get people to think about this race and how bad it's going to be for New York City. Now more people are going to move to Florida. Right. More people are going to move to Ohio. But you know, is it good for the people that are stuck in New York?

[Alex Marlow]

One second.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Good for the people.

[Alex Marlow]

Yeah, we got it. We're going to just, we have to just segue for a second here. Extremely important email is freedom. Charliekirk.com Stay right there. Senator Rick Scott, please continue and finish that thought.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Well, it's bad for a country that the center of capitalism has somebody that wants to get rid of the police. This is, he's. They're going to continue to make under socialism this place will be New York City will be an impossible place other than for billionaires. What he's going to do on housing, he went, he wants to put a cap on rent. Well, that means if you're, if you own the building, are you going to put any more capital into it? So I lived in public housing growing up. Who grows up, who grows up in public housing? Boy, this is where I want to be the rest of our life. Right. Public housing doesn't work so long term and that's this. This place is going to become a disaster. It'll be scary to be in New York City. And so I hope they come to their senses and elect a capitalist.

[Alex Marlow]

Vivek. What? It looks as if the odds on favorite are that Zoran is going to win. Why is that? I mean, you are a political expert in some ways. You've run for president. You're going to be the governor of Ohio. What is the appealing, what is the appealing element of Zoran Mamdani?

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Well, you and I talked about this when you visited Ohio, Charlie, which was a great visit you had. I mean, I think that part of this is a wake up call also for Republicans to understand we can't just sweep the issues he's talking about under the rug. It's that his solutions are completely harebrained. But you think about the affordability crisis. It is real, especially for a lot of young people. Think about homeownership getting outside the reach of being able to afford as a 30 or 35 year old, even if you're working hard and playing by the rules. Is that a real problem? Yes, it is. But how are we going to fix it? It isn't through rent controls. It's through increasing the supply of housing, cutting through the red tape that stops new home construction, land use restrictions that stop new home construction. That's the kind of solutions that we need to be talking about. And so I do think it's a kind of wake up call for Republicans, the same thing. What's the difference between the wealthy and everybody else? I mean, we're sitting here in New York City today, but across the country, including New York City. What's the difference between wealthy and anybody else? Whether you own an asset that compounds. You got to get that started at a young age. Young people are going to turn towards socialism if they feel like they don't have skin in the game, like they feel like they don't actually own assets that they watch somebody else becoming a billionaire off of. But the better solution to that is let's start with financial literacy. Let's start with parents putting away $10,000 in the S&P 500 at a young age. Every kid is going to be a millionaire if every parent does that for their kid on the day they're born. And is there a role for the government to play to potentially create incentives in that? I'm open to it. And so I think we got to think about the future of capitalism, which I embrace wholeheartedly. I think it's the best system known to the history of man to lift people up from poverty and we shouldn't apologize for it. But how do we create capitalism that everybody's actually able to enjoy the upside of? And I think that increases our long run commitments to capitalism rather than socialism. And that's the conversation we need to be having on the right as well. And so, you know, as Senator Scott said, we're here to inform people, hey, hopefully they can vote for the right person in the ballot box, but if not, inform them of alternatives. Come to Ohio when I'm governor, frankly, you got a lot of conservative minded, common sense, rational, patriotic people in New York. Yes, they do exist, exist in big numbers. And many of them are going to unfortunately have to choose to leave. And I want them to come to places like Ohio, where I'm leading hopefully back to the leadership position of the country. But when we think about the country as a whole, one of our learnings as conservatives, as Republicans is that we too ought to be talking about the affordability crisis because we're the ones that actually have the solutions to address it. But that's what we got to step up and do instead of just sweeping it under the rug, especially for young people who I think are really tuned into these questions of participating in the upside of capitalism and affordability, which I'm all in favor of.

[Alex Marlow]

So we've about a minute and a half here. Vivek. What? Just give our audience a quick update. How are things going on your very important campaign in Ohio? And then I want to segue more to some tape here of Zoran.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Yeah, look, things are going well in Ohio. Running unopposed in the Republican primary and what should be a red state. This is the cycle that solidifies whether Ohio is a red state or not. And I think that we want to permanently solidify that in the midterm year of Trump's second term. But one of the things I'm most focused on that's resonating is educational reform, bringing standards to our public schools. And frankly, Charlie, a lot of people even who are independents, even former Democrats are coming our way for that issue alone. So. So I'm excited on. On bringing some of those reforms. Bring down property taxes while improving education. People in Ohio, thankfully, are loving that and I'm hopeful we're going to be successful.

[Alex Marlow]

Stay right there. We have 30 seconds. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. I want to play some of this new tape. Zoran Mamdani is doing his magical rebrand tour right now. He's probably getting a little bit nervous that a late surge of common sense New Yorkers could displace him from the mayor's race. But that whole race is such a mess. You get Eric Adams, who he's just getting no traction. You got Andrew Cuomo, who's the worst. Zoran might be the next mayor of New York City. Stay right there. 100% American made and darn proud of the Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email as always, freedomarliekirk.com here at the Bitcoin.com mobile studio. I want to tell you guys about patriot mobile. It's patriot mobile.com Charlie. That is patriotmobile.com Charlie. I realize there are many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there are new ones popping up all the time. But here is the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that is Patriot Mobile. Not only are they leading the way in the new red economy, but Patriot Mobile also outgains the competition when it comes to technology. Patriot Mobile is only one of three carriers with access to all three. Is one of the only carriers with access to all three major networks. That means exceptional national wide coverage along with ability to have multiple numbers on different Networks. Go to patriotmobile.com Charlie that is patriotmobile.com Charlie or call 972 Patriot. Go to patriotmobile.com charlie or 972 Patriot. Let's go to this cut right here. This is Zoran Mamdani. He says he's a Transformed man. Play cut 299.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Many of my opponents, chiefly Andrew Cuomo, would prefer to debate a mythical version of myself than the person that I actually am. They'd prefer to focus on tweets from 2020 as opposed to the platform of 2025.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

What you're really saying is that those.

[Alex Marlow]

Tweets of 2020, you've evolved from that, you've changed from that.

[John Jubilee]

You've changed your views.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yes. Those are out of step with the campaign that we are running and it's.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Been clear out of step with how you feel. Yes.

[John Jubilee]

So you've totally changed your mind.

[Alex Marlow]

Yes. Okay. Senator Rick Scott, is he a changed man? Senator SCOTT, what a joke.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

I mean, listen to what people say. I mean, this is what the guy believes. He believes in his heart. Oh, but it won't work for a campaign. He did a poll that won't work for the campaign. So don't, don't trust, no, don't worry, don't worry about what I said before and how I've acted in my life. Look at what I'm running on, because that's all I want you to think about now. I'll go back to where I really am as soon as I get elected. I mean, what a joke. Don't trust somebody like that. By the way, if you can take, oh, I love the police today, but I hate him yesterday. And you trust them. You have to be an idiot to believe that.

[Alex Marlow]

So, Vivek, let's play another piece of tape here. Let's go to cut 305.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We've seen that Donald Trump use the law as a suggestion. He believes that it's something that he's above. And what he's showing is that he's willing to utilize any tool, whether those real or imagined, to try and shift. We are confident that no matter what formulation this race takes, whether it's me versus three candidates or me one on one with any one of them, we'll win the race. But what we cannot stand is the affront to democracy and the idea that it is a president who could pick the next mayor of the city and not the people of that same city.

[Alex Marlow]

Vivek, your response?

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Well, look, I mean, he's usually, he's using this to his advantage. He's clearly a skilled politician. He has a completely boneheaded wrong policy ideas, but he's trying to use everything in his favor to really go to the New York electorate and putting him into office. And frankly, that's the dominant odds of what's going to happen. But the bigger picture, forget the horse race of this particular mayoral election. I do think that sometimes, sadly, a country, a great nation like ours, needs to actually learn the lessons of what the alternative looks like. And unfortunately, if he is elected, which I'm not rooting for, but if he is elected, let us at least use it as a country to learn the lesson. The best way to combat the popularity of socialism is probably for people to try what the fruits of socialist policy really are. That's probably what's coming to New York City if he's elected. The good news is we still have our system of federalism. People can pack their bags and move. Like I said before, I'll say it again. We're going to make Ohio a haven for people who share the values of this country, including capitalism, to come thrive. But every once in a while, there comes a time where if people really lose their way, Thomas Jefferson said it, well, the government we elect is the government we deserve. And if that's what New York City elects, then in some sense it's a lesson that deserves to be learned for the country. And I hope some good still comes out of it. So I'm not rooting for that outcome. But if that's where we're headed, frankly, I don't think engineering some other alternative outcome is the answer. It's actually true learnings of the deep lessons underneath. And just think about the sad reality also, that the entire country, I've even been meeting old friends in New York City who would have never voted for Andrew Cuomo in years, are now praying that it's Andrew Cuomo. I mean, look at where we are. He's a guy who got rid of cash bail. He's a guy who was opposed to fracking, who was against nuclear energy, and he is somehow the savior that everyone is is praying and hoping for. Think about where we are and what that says about where New York City is, and in some measure, even where certain directions of our country's currents are headed. We got to turn that ship around in a bigger way. And I think it's going to be deeper than just, you know, messing around with the horse racing of this particular election in one mayor of one city that matters. This is a symptom of a deeper issue in our country, and I think the only way we're going to get around it is reviving the ideals that made our country great the first time. Meritocracy, the pursuit of greatness, the rule of law. Bring it back. Don't apologize. That's who we are. And I think that's really the moral of the story at the end of this.

[Alex Marlow]

Senator Scott, final thoughts on Zoran Mamdani, who looks to continue to be on pace to be the next mayor of New York City.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

I don't know one person that's moved from Venezuela that's a socialist. I don't know one person that's moved from Cuba and Florida that's a socialist. So people have lived under socialism, know, it's really bad. Ultimately, it only ends up in everybody being broke. And so if you want people to have the opportunity, like Vivek had, I had, you had to live our dream. It's all tied to capitalism. It's all tied to opportunity and freedom. So I hope New York comes to their senses. I hope this doesn't happen to them. And. But there's going to be bastions of opportunity, and that's going to be Ohio and Florida.

[Alex Marlow]

Senator Rick Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy, thank you so much and keep up the great work. Thank you both.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

Bye bye. Thanks. See you, Charlie.

[Alex Marlow]

The other component of the Mamdani thing is that he's a foreigner. He's obviously not an American. We've said that repeatedly on this program. And that ties into the second part of my trip to when I went to Japan. I think we can all agree that if 10 million Pakistanis went to Japan, they don't become Japanese. Japan is a very unique country. And objectively, Tokyo might have been the most impressive city I've ever visited. From how clean it is, from how seriously even the just everyday workers take their job. The bus drivers wear white gloves. They bow when you go on. They take their little job so seriously. But there is an effort underway in Japan, as there was a big effort underway in Europe and our country, to bring in a bunch of foreigners and to say, well, you know, they're Japanese too. Japan could maybe assimilate 10 Pakistanis or 100 if they didn't take any more right away. But a million, and we know they're not assimilating at that point. And we saw a little bit, you know, just a little bit in Tokyo, you know, Muhammadan there, Mohammed in here. Ooh, that's interesting. I didn't know I was in Paris. I didn't know I was in London. But the point is this, and this ties with Zoran Mamdani. If you do not have a picture of national identity, then you're gonna be in a lot of trouble. Now, America's picture of national identity is different than Japan's. Japan is tied to their ethnicity, and that's okay. It works for them. And it's unbelievably impressive. We have a different picture of national identity. We are, of course, a people and also a propositional nation. We're both. Japan is something different, though, and they should be allowed to be different. Japan is not a propositional nation. Japan is a people. They are an ethnicity. They are genealogy. And it's worked incredibly well, for them, they are one of the oldest and greatest cultures and civilizations. But isn't it just so striking as you're looking at a picture of Tokyo right there, isn't it so striking that the globalist forces, they want to try to destroy any culture, any city that is working and functioning. So there's a major movement in Japan, it's called the San Sido Party, that is ascendant. And they are calling out the private, quiet infiltration of foreigners into Japanese society. And I'm cheering them on because here I am as an American wanting Japan to remain Japanese. It would be a, it would be a demerit for the planet, it would be a demerit for the world if all of a sudden Japan fell the same way that Paris fell. And they do things differently. They're not a Christian nation, they are a Shinto nation. They are one that has traditions in Japanese culture and the samurai and duty and honor. And I think that's awesome. In fact, dare I say, I actually want the diversity amongst nations. Our national identity changed after the second great immigration wave, the 1910s and 1920s. But we are still a nation founded on Christian European settlers with norms and customs and faith, faith emanating from Western civilization, from Christian civilization. And you shouldn't want to change America and you shouldn't want to change Japan because we, we already know what has happened when you change Paris and you change London. National populism is a check against globalists. And we shouldn't go impose into Tokyo being like, well, Tokyo, you guys are too Asian. Let's just, by the way, let's apply the left wing framework. What's so interesting is, do you know they're calling Japanese racist for not wanting to take immigrants. Oh, you're racist because you don't want to take a bunch of Arabs in your country. You're racist because you don't want to take a bunch of Indonesians in your country. And Japanese are like racist. What do you, what does this word even mean? What do you mean? It is a purely western moral framework that we're overlaying against a multi thousand year great civilization. So here we, as Westerners, we can't help but be, you know, somewhat colonialist and imperialist. So left wing in imperialist colonist forces are coming in and scolding Japanese politicians for not taking immigration. And honestly, Japan does not want to commit political and cultural suicide and we commend them for that. Japan should close its borders. Japan should say, nope, we're going to figure out our birth rate problem. Which the Japanese birth rate problem is bad, but it's not as bad as Korea's. Left wing colonialism equals open borders. It is a soft form of imperialism. And I saw it firsthand because the country works. It is an objectively functioning country. It is not South Africa, it is not Angola, it is not Bangladesh. You don't have to go in search of a solution like, whoa, we have major problems in Tokyo. And by the way, how often do you hear from politicians here in America? We'll be very careful. We might end up like Japan. End up like Japan? You mean where you can ride the subway without being stabbed in the neck? Where everything works and the streets are clean and people are polite? Yes, Japan has issues. And I'm going to talk about that throughout the program, by the way, which is that there are problems in Asia that I'm glad that we actually have a. We have a different diamondism, a different energy, a different entrepreneurial spirit that you don't have there. And I think that's significantly lacking. But they have a stable, orderly, beautiful, lasting society. And that's a really important thing. And not only that, I felt welcome, I felt honored, I felt received. But we should keep Japan Japanese. And people say, well, Charlie, they have gun laws. Well, before they have gun laws, they have third world laws. You don't need all these gun laws if you, you know, you don't. It's okay if everybody owns guns. If you don't have like a third worlder's coming into your nation that don't abide them and then commit a lot of crimes. Stay right there. Email us freedom charliekirk.com in spirit. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, everybody, our campus tour resumes on Wednesday. Let's go to cut 53, please. You guys know how it works. Open mic. We're here for a couple hours, so get comfortable. So you would get rid of all borders? Yes. What species is the baby in the womb? It's a human, therefore they should have human rights. No, he's a liar. You're a typical leftist because you only care about yourself, not about the other people. It's very clear by how you're acting. What can I do to save the country? You answer that question every single day. You are doing something that is bigger than you. A lot of people. How are we doing?

[Zoran Mamdani]

I'm on the move like a runaway.

[Alex Marlow]

You'll turn it back up and cut your pace. I do not care what the others say. Listen, I told you that I did not come to play. We about to take it to higher heights History's waiting when I arrive Today.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Is a dawn of a new and I'm about to shuffle now they cannot hold me down when you will win.

[Alex Marlow]

Then you learn from your losses we.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Came from the bottom and now we the bosses the future is your so.

[Vivek Ramaswamy]

What will you choose?

[Alex Marlow]

If you get it your all, you got nothing to lose. Okay, everybody, that is the American comeback tour. American comeback tour.com starting this Wednesday. Let's go. Utah Valley State University or Utah Valley University, September 10th. And then next week I will be in Colorado at Colorado State University. And then we have University of Minnesota twin cities on September 22nd. Then we have Virginia Tech on the 24th. In between that I'll actually, after that, I'll be debating at Dartmouth University and then a Utah State University on September 30, Montana State University on October 7. October 9 is University of North Dakota. October 21 is Indiana University. October 27 is LSU. October 29 is Ole Miss. And more to be announced. That is just a little teaser. And Dartmouth College. I'm sorry, Blake. Yeah, yeah, I have to correct. It's not Dartmouth University. It's Dartmouth College. Oh, yes. They take themselves so seriously. So what I shouldn't do is I shouldn't be like, it's great to be here at the University of Dartmouth. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. I want to see you at our campus. Tour Tickets are free. Americancombactour.com okay, everybody, welcome back. Email. Email us as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. We're here@the bitcoin.com studio. Japan has a high trust society. So does South Korea. And they do not have a. A massive influx of foreigners that are constantly changing and eroding the trust structure. Now in Japan, not only are they tough on crime, they have the death penalty and their jails are really intense. And one of the, one of the aspects that I think that was so telling of the entire trip is that it shows that we in America have actually done the hard things, but it's the very simple things. Crime is not hard to solve. You just have to stand up to the Democrat soft on crime, you know, open prison, prison reform nonsense. You need political willpower, to be perfectly honest with you. And far too often we as Americans, we put up with stuff we shouldn't. Now the left say, well, gun laws are why Asia is so safe. Now, mind you, I'm not Even getting into the fact that the no gun crime. How does the left then explain the no muggings, the no stabbings, the no graffiti, the no homeless and the no bums? How do you explain that? Let me tell you right now, Japan has no lack of knives. Go to any sushi restaurant. They're everywhere. And they say, well, strict gun laws equaled nice stuff and no crime. It is a complete misnomer. No, they have high trust society is what they have anyway. So let's go to another thing here. I think we might have another piece of tape here. Okay, we don't have it. So coming back also from this trip. Okay, let's play cut 285. Okay, everybody, I'm here in Seoul, South Korea. As you can see, everyone, they have these like inflatable cushy chairs. Everyone is reading this would last about 35 seconds in most American cities. You can have nights, you can have nice stuff. Crime is a choice. We shouldn't put up with it. South Korea doesn't. We should neither. This video really bothered the left. It went completely viral and they said, oh, the cushy chairs are there because they have gun crime. Nope. It's actually nothing to do with gun crime at all, actually. It's that they have a high trust society. They don't have a city that is littered with third world foreigners. They don't put up with homeless people and they don't put up with crime. They have community. They have people that trust each other. They speak the same language. Actually, unlike our nation, we're a country increasingly of foreigners. I mean of gun control, not gun crime. It's not an issue of gun control. And the, the other takeaway when it comes to a high trust society is you must have a serious picture of national identity. We do not have a picture of. And it's again, I'm not saying it's racial. It is racial. In South Korea and Japan, they've decided to govern that way. And it's actually a really nice place to live. I'm not even prescribing that to the United States of America. We have a different mission statement. We are both a people and a proposition. Some people don't like that we're a proposition. But part of our national compact is propositional. It's not simply just a people. But if you are only a propositional people and you are not a people at all, if you're just a proposition and not a people, you have it. You don't have a nation if you're just an idea. I Used to believe this garbage like 10 years ago. America is just an idea. Not true, by the way. Let's just put 312B roll. These are just pictures of luggage sitting unattended outside convenience stores in South Korea. Let me show this to you. Do you think this has anything to do with gun control? People just leave their stuff out and open outside of a convenience store in South Korea. Look at that. You just leave your luggage. You can go shopping. You just leave your stuff. No one's going to take it literally. We were at the South Korea airport and Blake and I walked around. I was like, blake, where's your bag? He's like, oh, I left it at the airport. I left it at the gate. So what do you mean? He's like, yeah, no one's going to take it. You just leave your stuff laying around. Does gun control have anything to do with that? Is that having to do with gun control to the American left? No, it's not a high trust society. You just leave your bags around. No one cares because no one's gonna take it. It's a civilized society. We could live this way. We decide not to. We decide to live in this high crime infested, violent third world place. And again, we are the greatest nation ever. But this is a problem. We shouldn't have to live when it comes to crime. These are basic quality of life issues where you can just have a big roller bag, be like, yep, I'm just going to leave it on out here. I don't need. I know. I don't need to guard it. They don't have an attendant. They don't have a security guard. They have one thing that we do not have. They have a high trust society. We should try to restore it. Second hour, coming up, foreign.

[Terrence Bates]

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[Alex Marlow]

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[John Jubilee]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Alex Marlow]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[Alex Marlow]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Alex Marlow]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[John Jubilee]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[Alex Marlow]

Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page and we're here@the bitcoin.com studio. Joining us now is Megan Basham, author of Shepherds for Sale and daily Wire culture reporter. Megan, I'm so glad to have you on here. You live in Charlotte, where the killing of Aryna Zarutska occurred, who was an incredible person. A Ukrainian refugee comes to America and was murdered in cold blood for no reason. A senseless killing by a black person. If a random white person simply walked up to and stabbed a nice law abiding black person for no reason, it would be an apocalyptically huge national story used to impose national sweeping political changes on the whole country Instead. Megan Basham, no one seems to care when a white woman gets stabbed to the death. Her death. Why is that?

[Megan Basham]

Yeah, that was pretty shocking to go, you know, for two weeks now. None of our Major media outlets have covered her at all, not run one word. They finally started to cover her a little bit this morning, but only because of the massive public shaming, because this video was so very shocking. And what I really want to emphasize here, Charlie, is that this is not a dangerous part of town where Zarutska was killed. It's a very lovely, popular part of town. Bustling restaurants, trendy restaurants, boutiques. My family and I go there frequently on the weekend. So this was an area where you will see families on the weekend. She's a young woman, 23 years old, a refugee, and getting off work at a pizzeria and gets onto that light rail. So, you know, the initial reaction of our Democrat mayor was appalling. She said that she. She didn't mention Irina Zarutska at all in her initial statement. Instead, what she called for was compassion for the perpetrator, who she said is suffering from mental illness, just like cancer or heart disease. So we're supposed to have empathy for him as some sort of victim. And she said that we cannot arrest our way to safety, which is, of course, ridiculous. Yes, we can. If we put people behind bars when they're a public threat, we can have safe public streets. But, you know, just to go a little bit more into the weeds on this, I want to let you know that our current governor, who was then attorney general, his response has also been appalling. So back in 2020, within two weeks of George Floyd's murder, he had not only issued public lament. Well, I think at this point we can say it was not a murder, but he issued public lament right over George Floyd's death and instituted a new task force for racial equity in criminal justice system. So he initiated an entire task force for George Floyd's death, but it took him longer to acknowledge Irina Zarutska's death. It took him two more days than it did to acknowledge George Floyd, even though this happened in his own state, where he is governor. So if you look back at what that task force that he implemented in 2020 did, they specifically called for more lenient pre release policies, meaning they wanted low bail or no bail for minority offenders. They also called for decriminalizing homelessness and quote, unquote, public behavior, meaning being a public menace on the streets. So these were the very policies that allowed this perpetrator, Decarlos Brown, to be on the streets. He did, in fact, receive pretrial release back in January on his most recent arrest, because he's been arrested 14 times before, including for grand larceny and breaking and entering and assault with a deadly weapon. And almost every time he has been released and given fines and community service and probation, he has not been behind bars where he belongs. And so these were the direct policies that came out of that racial equity task force.

[Alex Marlow]

I have so many questions here, so let me just ask a micro question. Has this been talked a lot about in local communities in Charlotte, North Carolina? Are people understanding the racial element here? That a random black guy murdered a white woman? Is it shocking the community? What. Walk us through what's happening locally here, Because I would imagine it should be.

[Megan Basham]

Yeah, I think it is. You know, one of the things you're hearing is that this was a light rail that we all felt perfectly safe using just a few years ago. And we don't feel that way anymore because of these policies, you are suddenly seeing an increase in homelessness in the Charlotte area. You know, we came here in 2016, and when we first got here, you really didn't see panhandlers, public disturbances on the street. You see that now when you go into our uptown metro areas. And so I think so many people are feeling that. And when you look at the increasing rates of crime in Charlotte, you can trace it back to 2020. So our last homicide high was in 2020, when the black Lives Matter riots were occurring on our streets rates. And the second high of homicide rates in Charlotte were now 2024. So we don't have it for 2025 yet, but for 2024, when they were up 25% from the year before, when these racial equity policies started taking effect. So, yes, I think people are very much waking up to the fact that, you know, all of these sort of Black Lives Matter DEI push policies are having a direct impact on our safety because the argument was, for the sake of racial equity, we need to not jail black offenders. We need to give them fines and probation. And look, Charlie, this guy's mother decarlos. Brown's own mother tried to get him involuntarily committed. She has said he was not safe to be on the streets, and she actually tried to do something because she knew he was a threat. And instead, we have a criminal justice system here that was sold out to social justice instead of actual justice.

[Alex Marlow]

So now I want to transition to the Christian element here. So you have a great book, Shepherds for Sale. You've also called out all the wokeism stuff. Has Stephen Furtick, whatever his name is, spoken out against this because he was really big Elevation Church, big BLM guy about George Floyd Has Stephen Furtick, the popular mega church pastor, has he spoken out against the black criminal who killed a white woman on a bus because he's in Charlotte?

[Megan Basham]

You know, I haven't specifically checked on what Steven Furtick has said, but it feels like if he did speak out, that would certainly be something making news in our area. And I have heard nothing about that. In fact, I have heard nothing from many.

[Alex Marlow]

Weird. That's strange.

[Megan Basham]

Yes. From the social justice pastors who are very popular in this area. Derwin Gray is another. I have heard nothing from him. And so you have so many of these church leaders who got on board with Black Lives Matter, they got on board with these DEI policies, and now they have suddenly very much backed away from, quote, unquote, political issues. Now that we're starting to see the fruit of what these policies have borne, and it is actually the innocent citizens of North Carolina who are bearing the brunt of these policies.

[Alex Marlow]

Why is it that pastors were so quick to talk about the drug overdose of George Floyd, but they won't talk about this?

[Megan Basham]

Well, I think it's pretty obvious why. You know, at that time there was a desire to curry favor with the progressive wing, to be winsome. And so that's why they really want to appeal to the, I would say the elite class of our society. And when they look at the elite class, they see the New York Times, the Atlantic, cnn, and those are the people who they want plaudits and applause from. And so those are the people that they will go out and appeal to. And yet, when you see crimes like this, where this horrific stabbing of an innocent young woman who came here from a war torn country, and it actually turns out she probably would have been safer in her war torn country than in a large American city, they go very, very quiet because they, because that is not appealing to that particular urban upper class professional that they want to appeal to. So suddenly we had so much politics from these people prior to Donald Trump's election in 2025, and now we hear nothing from them. Now it's, let's not politicize the pulpit, even though this is a moment for pastors to speak into, because you have a community that is hurting, that is scared, and they want to know, you know, what are some of the answers to this kind of pain. And look, the Bible does have answers about justice. If a man like this had been incarcerated and punished as he should have been when he initially broke into people's houses, when he committed armed robbery, when he committed assault with a deadly weapon, then he wouldn't have been on the streets to commit these crimes. But they don't talk about those elements of biblical wisdom that tell us that the government exists to terrorize the unrighteous and the wicked, not to ensure that the innocent can be terrorized. And that's exactly what's happened in this situation.

[Alex Marlow]

I'm going to send a tweet to Mr. Furtick, Fertnick, whatever his name is in the break. Megan Vashem, stay right there. Alan Jackson Ministries.com Go to AlanJackson.com Charlie it's Alan Jackson Ministries.com we're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries. And today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called the Culture and Christianity Podcast. The Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Allen's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies to the issue we're facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump and the White House and the issues in the church. The Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging and you can find it on YouTube, Spotify. Wherever you get your podcast, be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. Go to alanjackson.com Charlie that is alanjackson.com Charlie alanjackson.com Charlie email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com so just to repeat, the largest pastor in Charlotte, North Carolina is a guy that is Steven Furtick. He's got tens of millions of followers on social media. He posted endlessly about George Floyd. Endlessly. And yet he has not had a single tweet of a murder in his own city. It's really weird, isn't it? He was really upset about a drug overdose of a black guy in Minneapolis, but not a murder of a white woman in his own town. Be right back. Researchers then the cdc.

[John Jubilee]

Yeah.

[Alex Marlow]

May not be saying much. It's the Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us. As always, freedom. Charliekirk.com I want to tell you guys about why refi.com that is yrefy.com why refi is incredible. Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion. Why refi is refinancing distress or defaulted private student loans. You can finally take control of your student loan situation with a plan that works for your monthly budget. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefi.com do you have a co borrower? Why refi can get them released from the loan. You're going to skip a payment every six times, up to 12 times without penalty. It may not be available in all 50 states. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com let's face it, if you have distress or default to student loans, it can be overwhelming because of privacy loan debt. So many people feel stuck. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com private student loan debt relief yrefi.com email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. That is again, the Charlie Kershaw podcast is doing quite well. That is the Charlie Kirkshow podcast page. Stay right there. We'll be right back. Welcome. Email as always, freedomarliekirk.com how is your health doing, Megan? I know you've been fighting some serious stuff. Give us an update if you feel comfortable sharing.

[Megan Basham]

Yeah, absolutely. And thanks for asking. So I was diagnosed with stage three colon cancer last Thanksgiving and you went through some rough treatment. But post that, I have been declared no evidence of disease. Praise God. So we're just continuing to pray for no recurrence. And now I get the fun part of being told I need to put weight back on. So, you know, I'm enjoying life.

[Alex Marlow]

Oh, I want that. That would be a dream kind of prescription from a Go to In N Out burger. I could do that quite well. And we have lots of them here out west. So, Megan, you wrote this amazing book, Shepherds for Sale, all about how our pastors are selling themselves out to the highest bidder on this racial issue. Though I know you've mentioned it. It's so frustrating because again, we have a catalog of the current kind of Christian ruling class of what they did. Carl Lentz, who's obviously been disgraced, George Floyd should be alive. It's not acceptable to kill him. Blah, blah, blah. Steven Furtick. This is what Steven Furtick said. He said, quote, he said, if you only post a simple prayer emoji and scroll on. We need to challenge the system and sickness that created and enabled the death of George Floyd. I am part of the problem is what Steven Furtick said. I mean, I could go through the list of just the nauseating Christian leaders. And I just, what is it getting better and how do we call out this from some of our Christian authorities?

[Megan Basham]

You know, I don't know if I would say it's getting better. I haven't seen any of this leadership come out and say, you know what? We were wrong and they were wrong. Because what they did was accept false narratives that we had a policing system in our country that disfavored black Americans. And that's simply not true. The data does not show that. And so they were backers of policies that have now made us more unsafe and have led to incidents like the death of Irina Zyrutska. And so what I have found mostly is that no one's really coming out and repenting of that. They're just trying to sweep it all under the rug and pretend like it never happened. I mean, look, I want to be clear. The president of the largest Protestant denomination in the US The Southern Baptist Convention, told Southern Baptists that they needed to use the phrase Black Lives Matter, that they needed to lend that support to a Marxist organization that was trying to dismantle police systems. So there has been, you know, a real cost to that. They were out marching with these people. And now we see what that ideology and that policy has brought. I mean, we can see it in Chicago. We can see it in D.C. prior to a couple of weeks ago, and we see it even in previously very safe cities like Charlotte, where the homicide rate has exploded. So as we look at this, you know, it's really frustrating to me to see some of these pastors trying to pretend like they weren't a part of that. In fact, what you're kind of seeing them do now is reposition themselves and they're using more conservative language. I have seen that. I can give you the example of someone like that as former SBC president Pastor J.D. greer, who pastors a large church here in North Carolina. You know, he was very much a part of backing social justice and Black Lives Matter. And now he's suddenly using more conservative language, but he's not acknowledging the part that he played in that. And that's what I'm seeing again and again, is that, you know, I think they know that there's egg on their face, but because of that, what they're doing is just trying to. They're calling it the Great Rehab Tour. They're all going on their great rehab tours to sort of pretend like, hey, we weren't a part of that. And you will not hear them talk about Black Lives Matter or social justice anymore, even though they were so instrumental in promoting that movement back in 2020.

[Alex Marlow]

I think you're right, and it shows that we've made a lot of progress, but we still have yet a lot of work to do. And so I just. The Christian world I know, is becoming more center, right? It's becoming better on this. Not every pastor has to comment on every issue. The reason why Steven Furtick is necessary is that it's happened in his hometown. And so he felt necessary to call out George Floyd overdosing on drugs in the streets of Minneapolis, but something that happened in his own city and that is inescapably biblical. It says that your city matters, your nation matters, your hometown matters, and the welfare of such. Final thoughts. Megan Basham, author of Shepherds for Sale.

[Megan Basham]

Well, yeah, and I really want to point out that when they did that, it didn't have no impact. They gave aid and comfort to a deceitful, destructive movement. And so those policies that came out of that deceitful, destructive movement are exactly what are making our cities unsafe right now. And that is why we are seeing things like young women being murdered on a light rail train just when they're trying to get off work and go about their business, because we dishonestly bought into something that was simply popular at the time. And that compromise comes with costs. And we're seeing that now.

[Alex Marlow]

Arena Zyritska would be alive. 14 times this guy was arrested. Felony larceny, aggravated assault with a weapon. Megan Basham, email us, as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. We'll be right back, everybody. Subscribe to our podcast. Alex Marlowe next.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump continues to stand up for religious liberty during a meeting with members of the White House Religious Liberty Commission at the Museum of the Bible. This morning, the commander in chief delivered remarks saying that we have to bring back religion in America. He also announced having donated his family Bible to the museum in order to be put on display. But arguably most importantly, he used the stage to support students practicing their faith at school.

[Alex Marlow]

In many schools today, students are instead indoctrinated with anti religious propaganda.

[John Jubilee]

And some are even punished for their.

[Alex Marlow]

Religious beliefs and very, very strongly punished. It's ridiculous. I'm pleased to announce this morning that the Department of Education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to prayer in our public schools. And it's total protection.

[Terrence Bates]

And speaking of faith, the president attributes the two failed assassination attempts against him to God's protection. Jury selection in the case of the man accused of trying to assassinate then presidential candidate Donald Trump is underway as we speak. Ryan Ruth's trial is off to a bit of a rocky start, though, as the judge overseeing the case is banning him from asking a number of politically charged questions of the potential jurors. Ruth is representing himself in the case despite having little knowledge, having little to no, excuse me, legal training. He's accused of trying to kill Mr. Trump while he golfed in Florida last September. Federal Judge Aileen Cannon is blocked off four weeks for the upcoming trial, even though prosecutors don't expect it to last that long. The 59 year old has pleaded not guilty to attempting to assassinate a major presidential candidate, assaulting a federal officer and several firearms violations. At least five people are dead, 12 more hurt after terrorists open fire on a bus stop in Jerusalem and send people running for their lives. As you can see in this video, Hamas is applauding the attack but not claiming responsible responsibility at this point. In the meantime, the Israeli military has reportedly surrounded Palestinian villages on the outskirts of the nearby city of Ramallah in response to the attack. As for the shootings, police say a security officer and a civilian at the scene are said to have shot and killed the attackers. It all went down at a busy intersection in north Jerusalem. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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[Alex Marlow]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie, you couldn't have scripted this. I mean it felt like this story was out of 15 years ago or something that the media wasn't covering it. After all of this purported hang ringing, that hammering that's been going on, that they've been really looking themselves in the mirror, see where they've gone wrong, why the media is the least trusted industry of any industry in America and then they have the easiest opportunity ever to get a little bit of credibility just by writing up the biggest story in America. And they won't even write it. They won't put one column inch into it in the New York Times, the Washington Post, completely ridiculous. But it's something that we all could have seen coming. And it just shows you what we discussed on your show like five days ago. Charlie, this shaping up to be a law and order election. The next election as of now, it's a long ways off. Law and order is the number one topic and you could see a 14 time a guy been arrested 14 times a Ukrainian refugee out of nowhere. There's no context for it at all. There's no provocation at all. There's video of it. This is the nightmare for the left so long as we get the word out and that's why the media covered it up.

[Alex Marlow]

And yeah, it just talk more about this. So let's go a level deeper here Alex, because what, how do these newsrooms operate? Because what you're defining, what we are articulating is a conspiracy. We are articulating a silence conspiracy of media networks that intentionally do not cover. How does this work in practice? Is there a group chat where they say no, we're not going to do it? Obviously I think that's unlikely. But. But is it also that they just have a, they have a narrative that they're trying to accomplish and they all know the goal because when you go, when you have a dozen outlets, msnbc, New York Times, BBC, Wall Street Journal, abc, cbs, NBC, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they all technically have different owners and different editors and different reporters and not one covers this story. What's going on here? Is there a. How do they harmonize with such incredible efficiency?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, they're so coached up and they've been coached up for decades on this. And you've been so kind to promote all my books lately. But my first book, Breaking the News, which I Wrote about four years ago. I tracked this. It's all corporatism. It's all about that. The corporate boardrooms of all these media companies are controlled by people who want Democrats elected. They see that they're the true oligarchs. You're Bernie Sanders talking about oligarchs. These are the real oligarchs. And the problem is you cover stories like this and it looks bad for the left because they want to talk about George Floyd where there's no element of racism that was involved at all. And they treat it like that was the biggest racial hate crime of all time, even though George Floyd was on drugs and was resisting arrest. So then you have an example like this where you see a black guy stabbing a white woman for no reason. How else could you view this other than as racism? If we looked at the world through the lens of the establishment left, and so they know if they cover this clear example of racism, then that nullifies times 100. Any of the George Floyd covers they've already done. So they can't cover it. They have to ignore it and hope it just goes away. Because to cover it reveals that they've been lying to us the whole time, which they have been.

[Alex Marlow]

And so the to go. I just. The incentive structure of the media is so broken, and we've been waiting for their collapse, and they're not quite collapsed, but they're definitely in a situation of decay. You could say the right wing world online has been largely covering this and has been kind of keeping it alive. Why did this become a bigger story just because of the video? What about the video was so animating? Because it was very interesting. I was in Japan and South Korea and someone in Japan mentioned, hey, Charlie here, what happened to the Ukrainian girl in America? I said, yeah, didn't that happen two weeks ago? Because I actually saw the story when it originally happened. I said, Ukrainian refugee? No, no, no. It just happened. And actually didn't just happen. It happened two weeks ago. Just the video was just out there. Can we get the still image of this though, just on screen for dramatic effect? Alex Marlowe. Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

So first of all, to your first point, I think it's really important to note that the incentive structure, you use the word incentive structure. These media companies all lose money. They all lose money and that's why they stay in business, because they protect the corporate status quo. You take a company like abc, which is part of abc, Disney, so the ABC News can lose money because they're protecting brands like the Disney brand, which can make a Lot of money through theme parks and through movies and through streaming and stuff like that. So ABC exists to cover for the Disney brand. NBC, NBC, Comcast, Universal. NBC News loses money. NBC News is designed to keep the NBC, Comcast, Universal, that entire structure afloat. And if you look at their board, it's all top Democrat donors and people who are fat and happy living off of America's largesse. And those are the type of people who are being protected by these newsrooms. That's why they don't do stuff like report on China accurately, because there's no incentive to, because their corporations all make money off of China. You look at New York Times boardroom, it's all people who are AIG and Facebook and all these executives from all these other major corporations. And once you see that, then you understand what they're choosing to cover and what they're not choosing to cover.

[Alex Marlow]

So.

[Charlie Kirk]

But to your point about the video, the video shows the innocence of it. This is public transportation. Small white blonde girl and a black guy who's in a rage out of nowhere. No provocation at all, no interaction at all. The clear nature of I'm seeing this person, I'm taking out all the rage I've ever had in my life on, on her. Like that. And that there's. It's unequivocal because of the video evidence. There's no way to spin it. There's no way to act like there's any sort of a justification or explanation for it. And that does make it all the more powerful.

[Alex Marlow]

Alex, there's another. I want to shift gears here a second. I think that's the right analysis. There's a new poll out. According to NBC News, Steve Kornacki released it from men who voted for Trump versus women who voted for Harris, men who voted for Trump. They asked what was the important to personal definition of success. 34% of men who voted for Trump believe having children is more important than anything else. Even more important than financial independence and a fulfilling job in career. For women who voted for Harris, 51%, the most important thing for them having a fulfilling job and career. The last thing, the least important thing for women who voted for Harris is having children. The leap. This is, this is like a bombshell, shocking thing. We knew that some of this existed, but we did not know it was this dramatic. The last thing, the least important thing for them is having children. Having children is right there at 6%. Being married is 6% at the very bottom of the poll. I guess it's technically second to last because fame and influence is the last. But based on what I was looking at, Alex Marlowe, what explains this? Why do so many Democrat women want to die alone?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it is remarkable. And they've all been coached up. And it's the way that we've run our institutions from our culture to our media to the way things are promoted online. You look at your famous. Your favorite female podcast host, aside from the great right wing political ones. But if you're. It is not a right wing political show host by female. They probably got an episode on why I waited to have kids or why I don't need a man. All of that stuff happens all the time. And it's getting through to people who look out on the world and they feel like, well, it sounds very expensive to have kids. It sounds very hard. And all of these cultural inputs are saying that you're going to be less happy. And the left tries to deny our biology constantly. It explains the whole trans phenomenon. They teach people to deny their biology non stop. Just look at the whole what we witnessed last week with Robert Kennedy, all these people who deny science, trying to lecture him on science. That is the nature of the world that we're living in. And telling women to not have kids clearly has had an effect on some people. But there has been a backlash. And you're seeing that in the positive side of this poll, which are young men who are seeing more than ever having children is a positive. That is a complete rebuke of the system, which is telling young men that what you need to do is you need to play the field, you need to be free, to be able to sew your wild oats or whatever. That was the environment I grew up in, Charlie. But there's been people like you, people like me who are out there saying, actually it's really rewarding to get married and have a family and have children. That's the best thing you can do. Clearly, that message is getting through. So there's a huge level of positivity with the men. But the women, I feel bad for them right now because they're getting lied to by everyone.

[Alex Marlow]

Yeah. And again, so it's just more about the polls. So women who voted for Kamala Harris, liberal women, they were asked what are the top three things to rank them. And they didn't even have to consider kids in marriage being top three. Let me just read the entire poll. This goes to show why liberal women are so unhappy, why so many liberal women are on antidepressants, why so many liberal women are just neurotic and just so unattractive to young men because their number one thing is fulfilling job and career than having the money to do things you want, having emotional stability. What all this hyper narcissistic liberal women inherently are incredibly narcissistic. Fulfilling job and career, having money that you want. What's the number one thing for men? Men want children. Now, what's amazing is that conservative women too, Trump voting women did not put children as a top five goal. This is a problem that transcends political lines. This is a, again, it's way worse, obviously on the left, but it's still bad on the right. And it's the men who want kids. It's the men who want children. It's the men who want marriage. What again, we have a minute remaining here. What are the implications of this for our politics? Alex Marlowe.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we need a rejection of modern feminism which has told women that you'll be happiest if you, if you are actors, act like a man. And this is something that is not true. I think they all know it's not true. But there's also the problem, which is that life is expensive and people want to make money as much as possible. And so thus they will maybe tell themselves that I'll be happiest if I focus on that and not on family. But the focus has to be on family. And you have to use that to drive you to create a family unit that creates a lot of success. So we just need to keep the positive messages coming as much as we can. Control it, Charlie, and pray that it gets through to as many people as possible.

[Alex Marlow]

Alex Marlow is author of Breaking the Law. That is breaking the law. I have so much more to say about this. It's just a shocking poll. And again, this is bad. Civilizationally, everybody where women who voted for Harris. The least important thing, second least important thing is having children. Bad news. That is a hyper narcissistic generation of women that will have a lot of cats, a lot of antidepressants, a lot of wine and no children. They follow their leader, Kamala Harris has no biological children. Stay right there. Alex Marlow. What do we have, guys? Oh, email us. As always. Freedomarliekirk.com do me a favor, Take out your phone and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. I now know what I think we should invest in. I think that a high growth industry in the next 10 years will be veterinarians. I think we should invest. What is a good veterinarian stock or like a harbor away my dog stock. Find that for me. That will be a growth industry. Be right back. The future of America and the future is bright. Here is Charlie Kirk. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always, freedom. Charliekirk.com Alex, why don't you plug your book here? We have about two minutes and then I'm going to do a final segment here. So this will be our last segment together. Alex, plug your book. Other things you're working [e-mail] yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you Charlie. Very relevant today because with the Eugene Carroll ruling from the 2nd Circuit, the most absurd lawfare case that I document in breaking the law with a cruel unusual punishment at the end, I think the Supreme Court is going to throw out at a minimum the punishment here. But this was all cooked up by Reid Hoffman and by George Conway to try to get Trump embarrass him before the election. So lawfare lives on. It is the biggest threat right now to the MAGA movement. They're working night and day to try to make Trump's life difficult and try to make whoever falls in his in his footsteps. Charlie, people like you and me me, I make our lives very, very difficult so that we can't operate in this space without getting harassed by the legal system.

[Alex Marlow]

What was the E. Jean Carroll state? I saw a little news on that just minute riff on that for a second, Alex.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah. She they so Trump is appealing basically on the same grounds of the Letitia James verdict, which was the penalty was thrown out for being cruel and unusual which I predicted in breaking the law because the eighth Amendment, which it was similar thing happened with Eugene Carroll. That was the one where Trump allegedly raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman. The case is completely absurd start to finish. I got a big thread on my X feed if people want to go over there and check that out. You can read all the details. They're hilariously absurd. And she asked for $15 million and the judge rewarded her 90 million. Why? No one knows. But Trump tried to get that thrown out and the 2nd Circuit upheld it. But it'll go to Supreme Court and I think it'll die there.

[Alex Marlow]

Alex Marlowe, author of Breaking the Lock. Great to see my friend. Thanks so much.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks, Charlie.

[Alex Marlow]

Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. The Charlie Kirk show podcast page is where you could download a couple episodes. Right now we are number eight in Apple News, which is really great considering we didn't do an episode on Any breaking news for about four or five days because of my trip to Asia, we're number nine. We just went back one slot, which is. Okay. It's Megan Tucker and Charlie Kirk show. Top three conservative podcasts out there. I'll take it. Megan is a great person. Tucker's phenomenal in that it's a one, two, three combo. Boom, boom, boom. Megan Tucker, Charlie Kirk Show. Subscribe to our podcast. We'll be right back. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. This poll from NBC News is remarkable, and we know this, and this is. This is a fact. Liberal women are less happy and more lonely. What's funny is when you say this to liberal women, they scream at you that they're super happy, and it's so obvious that they're not. Quote, young liberal women are especially prone nowadays to reporting poor mental health. This was the discovery that Zach Goldberg made almost five years ago, pouring over Pew data in the spring of 2020. Further research in 2022 found that depression has surged among liberal high school girls in the last decade, and only about half as much so amongst other high schoolers, especially conservatives. And the hatred of Donald Trump fills the void for so many of these people. And coming back from Asia, I could tell you, you do not want to live in a country of declining birth rate. If you have a declining birth rate, then they say, we need more people because we have a declining birth rate. The study goes even deeper here, why the mental health of liberal girls sank first and fastest. We are a decade into the largest epidemic of adolescent mental illness ever recorded. It's time we started treating social media like automobiles and firearms. I'm not so sure about that, but. So for men who voted for Harris, being married was ranked last. But what's amazing is that women who voted for Donald Trump being married was really low on the ladder. The top thing for women who voted for Trump is achieving financial independence, having a job or career. You feel fulfilled, owning your own home, being spiritually grounded, which is okay, that's better, having enough money to do the things you want to do. Modern women, this polling shows modern women have become incredible narcissists. And that's not an accusation. It's just what the data shows. And maybe it's true, maybe it's not true. I could tell you on college campuses, it's 100% true. Men are worried more about duty and obligation. That's why men are going back to church. What am I supposed to do? What Should I ought to do what is the essence of my existence? Getting married and having children is a values based decision. And women have to stop thinking about themselves all the time. Me, me, me, my body, my choice, my decision. Yes, of course you have the freedom and the agency to do that. But not only are you ending up miserable, the country is suffering because of it. This poll shows more than the right versus left thing that the values of American women have been corrupted. The values of American men haven't really been corrupted. Actually, there's a lot of problems with men. But men want what is the best. Men want to get married, men want to have children. Men don't just want to have. Well, the most important thing is to be able to have the money to do the things I want. It's completely irrelevant. A bunch of trinkets, a bunch of trips, a bunch of selfies, traveling the world. There is also the marriage effect. The Atlantic.com writes quote, A common narrative is that commitment and motherhood makes women unhappy. New data shows the opposite is true. We know this. We've said this forever. Instead of my body, my choice, it should be my family, my community, my church, my country. Instead of my body, my choice, it should be my kids. Your body, your choice will end up having you miserable. And we, again, we've said this forever, but now we have an abundance of data to show. TheAtlantic.com shows that marriage makes you happier. Wow, what a concept. And whenever I go to these campuses, Charlie, I'm super happy. Why would you say I'm not happy? Screaming into the mic and, oh, I can't this Wednesday. This thing's about to explode. Because we talk about traditional gender. Traditional, not gender, sex norms. And you know, some people say, well, you know, I could do it all in this Wall Street Journal piece that shows that women can do it all. For some women, yes, but some women actually don't want to do. Married mothers are the happiest women in America. The data shows it. Married women with children, 40% happiness, no children, they're the least happy. Actually, unmarried with children are the least happy, interestingly so. You should get married and have children and then they don't want you to own any homes. They want you to rent and be single and be happy. I'm sorry, we need to reject this entire paradigm, but this shows that young men are in a very good spot. Young men want the best stuff, if you want. If this poll showed that men were not wanting children, that would be a problem. But isn't it amazing the women hilariously it's the women that get the most fulfillment. Once they end up having the children, they're like, wow, something's unlocked in me. Yeah, it's called the biological beauty that God built inside of you. If you look at this data right here, though, men who voted for Trump having children, 34% of the most important thing. You think that men are career driven? No, no. Men would rather have kids rather than being financially independent. Something strange is happening here. Usually it's the biological clock inside of women that is going off. Now it's the biological clock inside of men. You know what it is? It's God given direction. Men are natural leaders. So men know that they must lead society towards having lots of children and lead women towards having lots of children. The silver lining is that if men are coming around, women will likely kind of come around so much here. My message to the women of America. Get married and have children. You'll be happier and the country will be better off. See you guys tomorrow.

[Charlie Kirk]

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