The Patriettes Podcast: Episode 47 | November 25, 2025 | Hosts: Angie, Donna, Teresa, & Guest Cohost: Julie Fehring, Soundview Pregnancy Services | Special guest: Seth Gruber Founder of The White Rose Resistance

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Program: The Patriettes Podcast – Episode 47
Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: Angie, Donna, Teresa, Julie Fehring (guest co-host, Soundview Pregnancy Services)
Special Guest: Seth Gruber (Founder, The White Rose Resistance)

Main Theme:
This lively and impassioned episode centers on the pro-life movement, the failures of the church to address abortion, the spiritual and cultural battle over life, and the hidden history of Planned Parenthood and abortion activism in America. Seth Gruber shares his personal journey, theological arguments, and insights from his documentary "The 1916 Project," which exposes the roots and development of the abortion industry and its cultural impact.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Seth Gruber’s Pro-Life Journey and Background

• Personal History ([05:20]):

  • Seth describes himself as a “former fetus,” emphasizing the humanity and continuity of life from conception.
  • Raised by a mother who directed a pregnancy resource center during his childhood.
  • Had a transformative experience scanning images of aborted fetuses for a high school project:

    "For two days straight, I'm looking at mutilated, dissected, emaciated baby parts... that was sort of the turning point for me." (Seth, [06:51])

• Conflict with Academia ([05:20]):

  • Criticizes “fake Christian colleges” that employ pro-abortion faculty and recounts being “banned” from his own:

    "I raised holy hell... and I’m still banned from that campus." (Seth [05:20])

2. The Church and the Abortion Issue

• Church Inaction ([09:05]):

  • Seth argues that the silence and cowardice of the modern American church regarding abortion is unprecedented:

    "What’s new relatively is the silence of the blood-bought Bride of Christ. That’s what’s relatively new... 1900 years of church history stands as an indictment against the last 100." (Seth, [09:05])

• Theological Foundations ([09:05–13:36]):

  • Asserts that Christians cannot be “pro-choice” without theological contradiction:

    “If you’re a pro-choice Christian, you’re committing a Christological heresy, and you’re probably not a Christian. Because… Christ was fully God and fully human from the moment of conception...” (Seth, [09:05])

  • Integrates scripture (John 1, Psalm 139, Jeremiah 1:5) and church traditions to argue for the sanctity of unborn life.

• Memorable Analogy ([09:05]):

  • Describes abortion as a “demonic parody of the Eucharist”:

    "Abortion says, 'You must die so I can live.' But Christ says, 'I must die so you can live.' Abortion is the demonic parody of the Eucharist. That’s why it uses the same holy words, 'This is my body,' but with the opposite, blasphemous meaning." (Seth, [25:00])

3. Strategy: Educating Churches and Pastors

• Julie Fehring describes widespread ignorance among churchgoers about abortion laws and facts ([18:47]).

• Sonograms as Education ([19:19]):

  • Using sonograms is an effective way to foster awareness and emotional connection for both mothers and pastors.

    “That's one of the best educations at all. And I think a lot of pastors need to come and see some sonograms to remind them, what are we fighting for?” (Julie, [19:26])

• How to Embolden Pastors ([19:45–27:20]):

  • Seth urges remembering the historic role of Christians in social transformation:

    “Whenever the Gospel was boldly preached and proclaimed, social transformation followed... We’ve just forgotten who we are.” (Seth, [19:45])

  • He criticizes Christian leaders’ attempts to remain “apolitical,” calling such attitudes cowardice:

    “You’re not strategic, Pastor; you’re not winsome, you’re not apolitical, you’re a coward.” (Seth, [26:05])

  • Practical Steps: Offers resources from the White Rose Resistance—documentary screenings, sermons, curriculum via their app ([27:19]).

4. The 1916 Project Documentary: Takeaways and Exposé

• Origins of Planned Parenthood ([37:27]):

  • Sanger’s role as Planned Parenthood’s founder, her law-breaking in NYC, and flight to England.
  • Details how Sanger and her organization targeted minorities and promoted eugenics.

• Margaret Sanger’s Eugenics ([40:47]):

  • Direct quote from Sanger:

    “Birth control means the cultivation and release of the better racial elements in our society and the gradual suppression, elimination, and eventual extinction of defective stocks... those human weeds...” (Margaret Sanger via Seth, [40:48])

• Connection to Nazi Germany ([41:53]):

  • Outlines how Sanger’s circle and American eugenicists influenced Nazi ideology and Hitler:

    "They based much of their eugenics legislation on pro-eugenics forced sterilization laws already on the books in America. They copied us." (Seth, [41:53])

• Invitation to Screening ([41:19]):

  “Any church in America can host a screening of this film right now by going to the1916project.com and bring it to your people.”

5. On-the-Ground Activism: The White Rose Resistance Model

• The White Rose Resistance includes both media/educational outreach and practical, local activism ([33:56]):

  • Mobilizing believers outside abortion clinics, “open air praise and worship activism.”
  • Taking on broader cultural issues, such as confronting drag queen story hours.

• Measuring Engagement:

  • Seth challenges listeners to measure their commitment to pro-life activism against historical injustices:

    “We all like to think we would have been Harriet Tubman abolitionists... The litmus test... is the degree to which you engage the greatest human rights violation of human history right now: abortion.” (Seth, [34:53])

6. Spiritual Warfare & Historical Perspective

• Abortion as a Modern Form of Child Sacrifice ([51:53]):

  • Connects abortion to ancient patterns of human sacrifice found in scripture and history:

    "It’s the issue that has defined God’s people throughout history, and it's the issue that defines us today... In Psalm 106, it says, 'You sacrificed your sons and daughters to demons...'" (Seth, [51:53])

• Personal Testimony of Spiritual Opposition ([54:01]):

  • Seth details the spiritual warfare encountered while filming in Germany, including his daughter’s medical emergency after visiting the grave of Sophie Scholl, namesake of his resistance group.

    “I get FaceTime from the back of an ambulance right after my wife thought our daughter was dead, hours after filming at the headstone and graveside of our daughter’s namesake... It felt as if the enemy was saying, 'You continue to make this film and you’ll be visiting your own Sophie’s graveside.'” (Seth, [58:01])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you’re a pro-choice Christian, you need to repent… You’re committing a Christological heresy.” (Seth, [09:05])
• “There’s no such thing as a potential human being. There are only actual human beings with great potential. That’s the science.” (Seth, [09:05])
• “Abortion is the demonic parody of the Eucharist. That’s why it uses the same holy words, ‘This is my body,’ but with the opposite, blasphemous meaning.” (Seth, [25:00])
• “The ignorance of the church is more dangerous for a culture than the decadence of the world.” ([19:45])
• “We all like to think we would have been Harriet Tubman abolitionists... The litmus test... is the degree to which you engage the greatest human rights violation of human history right now: abortion.” (Seth, [34:53])
• “They based much of their eugenics legislation... on pro-eugenics forced sterilization laws... already on the books in America. They copied us.” (Seth, [41:53])

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Important Timestamps

• 05:20: Seth’s personal journey into pro-life activism
• 09:05: Theological arguments against “pro-choice Christianity” and critique of church silence
• 13:36: Scriptural grounding for the pro-life position
• 18:47–19:34: The problem of ignorance among church and steps for better education (sonograms, resources)
• 19:45–26:05: Rousing call to pastors; political/cultural engagement
• 27:19: Practical tools: White Rose Resistance app, sermons, curriculum
• 33:56: Overview of White Rose Resistance local activism and mission
• 37:27–44:19: Exposé of Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood, and connection to eugenics and Nazi Germany
• 51:53–53:14: Spiritual dimension—child sacrifice in scripture, foundations of a just society
• 54:01–58:16: Spiritual warfare during the making of the documentary; personal family ordeal

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Additional Highlights

• Julie discusses Soundview Pregnancy Services: the only pregnancy center on Long Island providing medical services, with 37 years of history ([44:44]).
• The group underscores the need for grace and healing for post-abortive men and women, not just condemnation.
• Seth and the hosts share family histories of pro-life activism and encourage listeners to “measure themselves” by their present engagement in the movement ([34:53], [59:48]).
• Closing prayer focuses on courage, compassion, and spiritual battle ([61:12]).

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Summary

In this episode, Seth Gruber and the Patriettes offer a comprehensive, unapologetically bold exploration of abortion seen through the lens of faith, history, and activism. Seth’s arguments blend science, scripture, and history, while candidly indicting the church’s modern reticence to lead on life issues. The discussion exposes the insidious roots of the abortion industry in America and calls for a new, empowered groundswell of Christian resistance through education, bold preaching, and direct activism. The program is rich in personal stories, historical context, and practical advice, closing with a call to prayer and persistent action.

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[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Welcome to Tune In Tuesday. It is episode 47 of the Patriots Podcast. We're live streaming right here from the America First Warehouse every Tuesday night at 7:30pm and the America Warehouse is the.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Most patriotic venue in all the land. Thank you. I was starting to say, hey, we gotta say it. I also like that it's episode 47, but that's just me.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

That's a great number. I have that on my license plate too.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I tried to have it on my license plate.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

We're here tonight with special guest host Julie Fehring from Soundview Pregnancy Services. Welcome back.

[Julie Fehring]

Thank you. It's been so much fun to be back. Such an honor. So thank you.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Honor for us.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

We had such a great, a great time with you the last time you were here. It was such an empowering and important, important topic that we developing a whole.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

New love and friendship. It's a great thing. We can't wait to partner with you here and support this beautiful the work that you do.

[Julie Fehring]

Thank you.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Very important to us.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Close to our hearts.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Very close.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

So we are excited tonight. We have a special guest here tonight, Seth Gruber. Seth founded the White Rose Resistance and we are going to be discussing his organization and his book and the documentary the 1916 project which exposes the overall 100 year history, the hidden history of the secular moral revolution and the role it played. Planned Parenthood played in it. Seth is going to be joining us live. Are you there, Seth?

[Seth Gruber]

Yep.

[Announcer]

Hi.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

How are you doing?

[Seth Gruber]

Great. Good to be with you guys.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Hi.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Thank you for having you here.

[Francis]

Yes.

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Welcome.

[Francis]

Welcome. It's an honor.

[Seth Gruber]

The Patriots.

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Watch out.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I know it sounds a little cutesy, but we're really, we're all freedom fighters that fought on the front line. So I don't want people to be mistaken. We're pretty badass, actually. You know, we're from New York, so.

[Seth Gruber]

I can hear it, sister.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Love it.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

We want to talk. Start first by talking about your roots in the pro life movement. Tell us about your mom and how your childhood was.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, my roots are that, are everyone's roots. Actually. I'm a former fetus so I'm very grateful I wasn't slaughtered in the womb in the name of radical feminism. So I always thought being pro choice entailed a certain level of self hatred, actually. Isn't that weird? It's like, I'm pro choice. I support my mother's right to murder me. It's like, dude, that's so weird. That's such a weird thing. And so I understand the question, you want to know the story, but my roots are really everyone's roots. I came from a uterus and I'm very grateful my mother wasn't exercising her right to choose. But yeah, I was born in Los Angeles County. I was homeschooled through 8th grade, went to public high school, went to a fake Christian college that had pro abortion professors on the faculty payroll. And so I was, I raised holy hell and was a pain in the rear. And I'm still banned from that campus. It's Westmont College in Santa Barbara. But in high school, I did my senior project on abortion. And even though my mom had led a pregnancy resource center while pregnant with me, I had never seen what abortion is and does to little children. So I volunteered for a pro life ministry. I wrote a research paper, gave a speech. I was 18 years old. My senior year of high school and my volunteer hours, I was required to scan, I don't know, two or three hundred images of first trimester, mutilated, aborted baby photos on a high quality scanner and categorize them in their database. So for two days straight, I'm looking at mutilated, dissected, emaciated baby parts all in the first trimester, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 weeks old. And that was sort of the turning point for me.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

So I bet.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah, that would be for anybody, I would imagine.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I just.

[Francis]

It's such a terrifying, horrifying. That's what that was. One of the things that made me leave Seth. I'm a nurse, neonatal icu, maternal child health, midwifery. It's what made me leave the state system that I started my career in, which was an amazing place and did a lot of great work. But one room you'd be, you know, having to stand those and then the next room over, you're doing everything you can to save a preterm baby. You know, it's just.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Make it make sense.

[Seth Gruber]

We call that the insurance sanity of choice. Yeah, right. You could have on the same floor, in a separate wing of the same hospital staff, working heroically to save the life of a 30 week old fetus. And down the hall you could have the same staff intentionally dissecting and dismembering a 33 week old fetus three weeks older simply because they were in their mother's uterus.

[Francis]

That's right.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

It's insane.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah, it is.

[Julie Fehring]

It's very sad. Yeah.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

I don't know how, you know, people don't.

[Seth Gruber]

These are the questions you're not supposed to ask pro choicers, by the way. We could do a whole segment just on questions for pro choicers that caused their eyes to glaze over on top of their Joseph Technicolor coat of hair. And we call that cognitive dissonance.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

But, but we need more of that. We need that.

[Francis]

We do ask.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I would happily have those conversations and ask those questions because that's how you, you know, they don't even know why they're following it. That's the problem. You have to ask those questions.

[Francis]

Well, they haven't dissected, they haven't really gotten down to the foundational philosophy and belief system of the arguments. They really haven't. And it requires those hard questions.

[Seth Gruber]

But that's right. Amen.

[Francis]

Yeah. I'm curious about something you said before about your fake Christian college. I think that maybe that may be the case on many Christian campuses, that people like you, me and all of us sitting here might be paying great tuitions, big tuitions to send our kids to these schools. I find it remarkable. I mean, this is the same thing with the church. According to your website, it's like 93% of churches. Right. Have no real pro life stance or expression. I mean, can you talk to us about that?

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, I mean, guys like, listen, killing babies is nothing new. It really isn't. Most, actually, most of the evils we're facing right now aren't new. That's what my next film is about. We'll get into my last film, the 1916 Project. But my next film is just the glorious history of Christian resistance of 2000 years against all the same evils we're facing today that the heroes before us never saw as political. They're like, no, those are gospel Christian. Those are our issues as the church. And we're going to defend the least of these. We're going to defend women and children and the little ones. And so the reality is that like, we're actually not facing anything new. There's actually nothing progressive about secular progressivism. Secular. Secular progressivism is actually very regressive. It's a renaissance. It's a return to demonic paganism. It's like none of that's new. What's new relatively is the silence of the blood bought Bride of Christ. That's what's relatively new, is the cowardice and capitulation of the Church of the living God, who historically stood against all these issues. I guess what I'm saying is like 1900 years of church history stands as an indictment against the last 100. And we don't know the stories, we don't know the history of that stuff. So that's my next film called the Last Stand. But this is basic. Like, if you're a pro choice Christian, you need to repent. Actually, let me say this. If you're a pro choice Christian, you're committing a Christological heresy. And you're probably not a Christian. Because if to be a pro choice Christian, I guess would mean that Christ was at some point fully God, but not fully human, in violation of the doctrine of the Incarnation. Because what's the Incarnation say, right? That like the word became flesh. John 1. Right, like he's made his dwelling among us. But the Word didn't become flesh at the moment of birth. That's not following the science. The science is, is that human beings began at the moment of conception. Now, sure, they're not fully realized. They're not like fully developed like, the left loves to say that. Like, are you saying this little thing that's our nana right here that you can barely see, that's a person? Yes, I'm saying that's a person, you idiot. Because we all find ourselves on a different tick mark on the continuum of human development. But that continuum began at the moment of conception. And since then we've been gradually unfolding our full potential. There's no such thing as a potential human being. There are only actual human beings with great potential. That's the science. Okay, and so Jesus Christ becomes fully human. Yes, fully God, but fully human not at the moment of birth and at the moment of conception. Meaning that actually is God in the womb. That is a human being in the womb. So much so so that the first person to recognize the divinity and humanity of the second member of the Trinity is himself a fetus. Jesus. Cousin John the Baptist, who starts doing back flips in the uterus at the recognition of his prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity, God, man, creator in Mary's womb. And because God and his life together in the womb. Psalm 139. Fearfully and wonderful, wonderfully made and knit you together in your mother's womb. I saw your unformed substance before any of them came to be so that. Wait a second. The Incarnation. Christianity teaches us that that is God in the womb, which means that the prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity, God, man, is knitting the prenatal John the Baptist together in the womb while Christ himself is in a womb, while he's knitting himself together in the womb of a woman whose uterus he once knit together in the womb of Mary's mother. I mean, that's the incarnation. That's the wonder of our faith that we're about to start celebrating this Advent season right around the corner. And by the way, Roe versus Wade got overturned on the day in the church calendar called the Nativity of St. John the Baptist. It's a high holy day when we remember and celebrate Mary going to visit her cousin Elizabeth and when she goes to visit her cousin Elizabeth, the prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity, God, man, starts doing backflips in the uterus. Yes. The death sentence of unborn children got overturned on the day in the church council when we celebrate two unborn babies. So if you support abortion as a Christian, you're saying you supported Mary's right to murder your savior?

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Wow.

[Francis]

Wow. When you lay it out that way.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Oh, my, my, my, my.

[Francis]

Well, Jeremiah 1:5 says, Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you before you were born. I set you apart. God's word says, you can't be a Bible.

[Seth Gruber]

That was one of Charlie's favorite verses.

[Francis]

You cannot be a Bible believing Christian and not get that human life with every. Let's stop talking about sentience. It's not about that. It is about God. God shows you there's a soul and a human body there. The end period.

[Seth Gruber]

Amen. That's right.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

That's it.

[Seth Gruber]

Nailed it.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Oh, my goodness. This is, this is the first.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

You know me, I like to start off hot every time. There's no.

[Francis]

We should have prepared our audience and said, buckle up, it's going to be a hot one.

[Seth Gruber]

They need to hear.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I don't care. They got to hear it no matter what.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's uncomfortable. People don't like to talk about it. They don't. They steer away from controversy over it. But it's necessary.

[Julie Fehring]

The third rail.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yes.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

You were saying that before. Yes.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

That's insane.

[Julie Fehring]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

The churches have to.

[Julie Fehring]

When we come back from the break, we can talk to Seth about how we can get pastors to really conquer their fears and whatever is stopping them from sharing and educating about this issue. Because that is where the truth lies. So and I know both of our organizations. We endeavor to educate. Yes, and that is how we're gonna change minds and hearts.

[Announcer]

Amen.

[Julie Fehring]

As well as spiritually.

[Francis]

Let's dig into that right after this commercial break. We'll be right back.

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[Travis Holloway]

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[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Welcome back to the Patriots podcast. We're continuing with Seth Gruber on our discussion about abortion and how we were just before we cut to break, we were talking about how the churches can be more involved and Bold.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Bold, exactly.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

In bringing this discussion up. So, Julie, why don't you go ahead and what do you have to say about this?

[Julie Fehring]

Well, there's a lot of ignorance and sometimes I'm just really amazed at how little people know. As I speak, at churches all over Long island, they're not aware of our laws. Like, it's important to know your state law. It's the opposite. And we give all women choice and you know, they have free will, but we hold them up with all free services that are amazing.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

I know when the last time that you were here, you were discussing how the sonogram is such an important tool in allowing them to actually see their baby.

[Francis]

Right.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

To make that connection.

[Seth Gruber]

Yes.

[Julie Fehring]

That's one of the best educations at all. And I think a lot of pastors need to come and see some sonograms to remind them, what are we fighting for?

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

So the question right before break you were asking Seth was how do we. How do you, Seth how do you think we can embolden the pastors in the churches?

[Julie Fehring]

Exactly, exactly.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, boy, we could do a whole program just on that question, Sisters. So Francis Schaeffer once said that the ignorance of the church is more dangerous for a culture than the decadence of the world. And I think, let's put it this way, remembrance and forgetfulness are the measuring rods of faithfulness throughout the Bible and reveal that there are only two kinds of people and effectual doers and forgetful hearers. We have forgotten our great legacy. The legacy of Christendom is that wherever the Gospel was boldly preached and proclaimed, social transformation followed. In fact, when you study revival history, the first fruits of revival have always been a protection for women and children and I mean like legend, legislatively as well, like laws changed when revivals, true revivals happened when people realized that their faith wasn't just about like, you know, they will know we are Christians by our love. It was like, well, no part of love means like I'm a threat to evil and if you're going to target those behind me, you'll have to deal with me first. And that was true both physically but also both spiritually and politically. And so we just forgotten like who we are. We have these mantras in the church today of like, I don't do politics, I just do Jesus. Or these stupid empty phrases like Jesus is neither left nor right or he calls us to a third way right because Jesus is neither a Republican nor a Democrat. Which by the way, just like everything Satan says has a kernel of truth. Like obviously Jesus doesn't fit perfectly into our two party political system. But like, well, but today's Republican Party just gutted a bunch of their pro life protections for the unborn. So like obviously I voted for Trump. It was mean tweeting Orange man versus Jezebel Harris. That was a no brainer for me. Of course I voted for the mean tweeting Orange man, duh. But of course Jesus doesn't fit perfectly into our two party political system. But that doesn't excuse us. That doesn't mean that therefore you have license to just like, like Pilate, by the way, just watch, wash your hands of the politics of this messiness and say I just focus on the kingdom of God. No, you're a coward who's forgotten that the demonic evil doesn't operate just in the spiritual unseen realm. It manifests in the cultural and political realm. The things that you can see. I'm convinced, my friends, that Satan actually and every Christian should believe this by the way this should be basic, that Satan and demons actually work through individual.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

People do evil things.

[Seth Gruber]

Things. Absolutely. Okay. And that can be found in both political parties, by the way. Okay. And so like the left, by the way, how do you know what the most demonic, like, spiritual stronghold issue is in a culture when they come after children? I'll tell you. To the, to the degree that it mocks the creator. Oh yeah, you can know what the most demonic spiritual stronghold issue is in a society. To the degree that it mocks the creature creator.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

That's right.

[Seth Gruber]

So what? The freaking rainbow, okay, like, obviously that's the most blatant example. Like God flooded the whole world and killed every. Actually, God can't kill people. He just changes their location. But he only leaves Noah and his family because of what rampant sexuality, perverted, like, weird sex stuff. They were doing all sorts of demonic things. And God just says, I'm done, I'm starting over. Right? And then he puts his bow in the sky to say, I'll never wipe you all out by water again. And then the rainbow becomes the symbol of the same kind of sexual degeneracy that caused God to judge the world in the first place. Like, you can't make that up. Right? But I think abortion is maybe an even more blatant example, Sisters of that sort of mocking the Creator. So if you're a Christian, you should believe that there's an unseen realm and there's spiritual principalities. If you believe that, then you should believe that demons actually work through people. Now I'm not saying like every leftist is like possessed, but I'm saying that like when you give yourself over to evil, you're opening yourself up to demonic guidance, to demonic impact. Right? And so look at abortion. What's the primary rallying cry, sister? The. The chant that they've been doing since the 60s and 70s for abortion. This is my body, my choice. My body, my choice. This is my body. This is my body broken for you. Yes. Take and eat in remembrance of me. For I will not eat of the this bread or drink of this vine until I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom. Do you think it's a coincidence that the central phrase that the demonic left has been chanting and by the way, I'm 34, but I talked to people who were fighting abortion in the late 60s and 70s just to make sure I've got my facts right. They say they all tell me they've been chanting this since the 60s. This is the phrase.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

This is my body.

[Seth Gruber]

You Think that's a coincidence? Like, oh, so how like the character of the enemy of our souls sisters to say, you know, you know what word I'm going to like spiritually, demonically influence and download in the minds of the, of the unregenerate. You know what I'm going to give to celebrate the murder of babies in the same location that Jesus entered human history in to redeem mankind from their sins. Here's the phrase I'm going to give them. I'm going to, I'm going to influence them to chant the words of Christ at the Last Supper. So abortion says, this is my body, I break you baby for me. But Christ says, no, this is my body, I break it for you. Take and eat in remembrance of me. So, so abortion says, you must die so I can live. But Christ says, no, I must die so you can live. So as Peter Crates, the Catholic philosopher says, abortion is the demonic parody. Parody. What did I say? The most demonic spiritual stronghold issue is to the extent that it mocks perverts, right? Copycats, the Creator's design. Abortion is the demonic parody of the Eucharist. That's why it uses the same holy, holy words, this is my body, but with the opposite blasphemous meaning. Yeah, you want proof that this is spiritual? Pastor, you, you, what's, what was your question, sisters? What do you say to pastors? How do we get pastors engaged? This is the most demonic stronghold issue in our society. If you can't get the right to life right, you won't get any other rights.

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[Seth Gruber]

Yeah. Those who murder the unborn cannot be trusted to govern the born. And those who murder the unborn will one day murder you too. The longer that you talk, tolerate the sacrament of Satan. You're not strategic, pastor. You're not winsome, you're not apolitical, you're a coward. And you need to repent for letting the slaughter of 75 million babies created in the image of God be flushed down the American sewage system because you are too busy doing Rick Warren and Andy Stanley Bible studies to stand in the gap on behalf of the most defenseless in the same location that your Savior entered human history in.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

So I want to clap. Praise God. That is amazing.

[Julie Fehring]

So Seth, we need some practical guidance. What can we give to pastors what is. Let's get some practical steps that pastors that might be watching today, how can they better share about the sanctity of life in a positive, non threatening way. Because we know churches are mostly filled with post abortive men and women.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I'm about to clip that clip just now and email it to every pastor I know. That's what I want to do.

[Seth Gruber]

Well, I was gonna say probably showing them this interview, while it would make us feel really good, probably not a great way to win them to the cause.

[Julie Fehring]

We win them.

[Seth Gruber]

That's how I communicate. I'm not gonna apologize. So. But yeah, listen. So we made a film called the 1916 Project. And the number one response we got from believers all around the country. And it was so popular as a church screening movement and film that I had focused on the family calling me, saying, how the hell did you do this? Like, teach us how to screen films. Like, it took off and now it's streaming on Daily Wire plus, but we're still doing the live church screenings, like, at churches for pastors who will host it. And the number one response to that, even from, like, engaged, like, fighting pastors who were engaged, the number one response was, Seth, I've never heard any of this before. These weren't from, like, ignorant, unengaged churches. These were from informed, engaged churches who said, I've never heard any of this before. So how did I answer your first question, like, about pastors? I started with, the ignorance of the church is more dangerous for a culture than the decadence of the world. And so one of the solutions is knowledge, right? Hosea 4. 6. God says, My people are being destroyed for lack of knowledge. Psalm 88:12 says, Righteousness, righteousness cannot be done in a land of forgetfulness. And we live in a land of forgetfulness, sisters. And so to remember what we've forgotten and reclaim our great heritage, we've got to go back. And that's what we do somewhat with this film. And then we have a black robe regiment at the White Rose Resistance. And we have a White Rose app as well. It probably won't show up on my phone because cameras are weird like that, but it's just called White Rose. It's a little app. And. And we have a black robe regiment section on there. And this is our ministry, the White Rose Resistance. And so we have like 30 pre recorded sermons from our chaplain with sermon notes. So you can preach from the word of God. You're not just doing political commentary on a Sunday pastor. You're actually preaching from Bible verses and how that applies to life and the family and the culture war. And that's all on our White Rose app. And then our allies, at $35 a month or more, get access to almost everything in the app, including courses curriculum training and at $70 a month you get the book club. If you want to read books with this weird homeschool kid.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

All right, we gotta hold that thought Seth because we have to cut to break and then we come back we'll talk about it more.

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[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Welcome back to the Patriots podcast as we continue our conversation with Seth Gruber. We ended the last segment we were talking. We're just getting into the 1916 project.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Wait, but before we do that.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Go ahead.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

You just saw the last commercial of this place that we're sitting in. The greatest, most patriotic venue in all the land. I mean, you gonna come visit us?

[Seth Gruber]

Yes, absolutely.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

We would show your film. We would love to have you speak here.

[Seth Gruber]

We actually have a White Rose resistance chapter in New York. So we're not just a digital media like educational organization. We're a practical on the grounds resistance ministry. So we have resistance chapters scattered throughout the country, either volunteer led or full time coordinators that mobilize the local church to do the practical things in your community that will make a difference. And so yeah, I gotta get back to New York.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah We're a patriotic venue, but we have church here on Thursday night. So I don't know if we fall into the category, but we'd be more than honored to. That's awesome to have you guys here, show the movie, educate people. I'll keep in touch with your team because I would love, love, love to have you guys here.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yes.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Because we were. We were talking on break. We were discussing that. How do we. How do we, you know, empower the churches? How do we get the word? How do we spread the mission of the White Rose Resistance? You know, how do we do this?

[Seth Gruber]

So, sisters, I believe this crazy thing that babies are people and they don't become people when they pass through the magical birth canal. And so because they're people and they're image bearers of God, we should be as passionate and focused on protecting them and like, actually stopping their murder as we tell ourselves we would be if we were fighting slavery in the 1850s or the Holocaust in the 1940s. And most believers will say they believe the preborn child is a person, but they're not doing anything to the degree that they like to think. We all like to think we would have been Harriet Tubman abolitionists. Right. We all like to think we would have been doing something against slavery. The litmus test, actually, to whether you would have been back then is the degree to which you engage the greatest human rights violation of human history right now, abortion, which in America alone has taken over probably 75 million. 75 million babies lives. And so listen, like, y' all are in New York. I've got a heritage that goes back to New York because I'm Italian and my, you know, have Italian grand great grandparents come there and then to la, say, I love New York. And now it's got a socialist, you know, jihadist mayor. Because the church has been silent. The church has been silent on so many issues, but nowhere has that been more damaging and bloody than the. The murder of the unborn. And so we mobilize believers outside of abortion mills. Open air praise and worship activism, lovingly engaging with moms going in. But we're not. We're not just a sidewalk counseling ministry. We want to be a pain in the rear to the spirit of the age and his acolytes in the culture. And sometimes that means crashing drag queen story hours. That's gonna mean we're launching. Yeah, I knew you were my people. We're launching a C4 next year.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

That come out of my mouth. I think you're my new Best friend. I love you.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, yeah. We must have been separated at birth.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Or something too, so my family did the same thing. It's all good.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, I love it.

[Julie Fehring]

So, Seth.

[Seth Gruber]

What? Yeah, we're actually related to the Lombardies. We go back to that, actually. So I was just filming in Rome for our next film, and it was fun to get in touch with my heritage. But anyways, cool.

[Julie Fehring]

Nice. So, Seth, what are the five top takeaways from the 1916 project that you feel people really need to know? Because as you said, you know, we're an engaged church, we're very pro life, but we've never heard this before. So what are the five top takeaways to draw people to want to see this important film?

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. It's insane how much we've been lied to, friends. Most people could tell you, like, abortion, Planned Parenthood, they're the big one, right? Wasn't. Wasn't their founder, like kind of a maybe a eugenics or something like that or maybe some race? Like, that's the extent that maybe they could say, we've been lied to. You about so many things. Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and really, really the patron, she's been called the patron saint of feminism, the patron saint of abortion. I mean, like, you know, Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the world. Okay? They're also the largest provider. Here's one of the takeaways. They're also the largest provider of the pornographic comprehensive sexuality education in America's public schools. They brought so many angry mama bears and papa bears to school board meetings the last five years because of the filth in the schools. And guess what? Planned Parenthood just recently became the largest provider of cross sex hormones and puberty blockers for America's gender confused youth. So how is one organization all three of those things, because of the silence and ignorance of the blood bought Bride of Christ, who has been asleep in the light. And then Margaret Sanger, because she was breaking the obscenity laws in New York City, guys. And you're not too far from you in Greenwich Village, which is also where the Stonewall movement, right, the homosexuality movement was launched out of, like, no mistakes, that those were both from the same little village in the same part of America.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

She was breaking fruit.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, yeah, Greenwich Village. So she was breaking the obscenity laws at the times by sending, like, pornographic fils and illegal recommendations on douchebag and various contraceptive devices that were illegal at the time. So instead of being arrested by the New York authorities. Margaret Sanger, in 1914, ships her kids up to be raised by her friends, has her socialist friends in the New York labor movement forge her a passport. And she flees to England to avoid the New York law. And she becomes the first Kamala Harris, meaning she sleeps her way up the levers of power. And she meets the neo Malthusian. She meets a guy named Havelock Ellis, who is the Alfred Kinsey of the uk and he coaches her journey back to New York city, where in 1916, in the Brownsville neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York, she opens up the first illegal birth control clinic in America. That's the origins of Planned Parenthood. Planned parenthood says 1916 is their birthday. They see that as their birthday because that was Margaret Sanger's first clinic and her first board member when she founded the organization formally in 1921. Check this, this out. Her founding board member was Lothrop Stoddard, who was the exalted Cyclops of the Massachusetts KKK chapter.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

That's right.

[Francis]

And where did they open the first. What kind of neighborhoods were they in?

[Seth Gruber]

Greenwich, Connecticut. Her first clinic in Brownsville. Guys. Interesting. It wasn't in Greenwich Village. It was in Brownsville, which was a poverty stricken neighborhood largely comprised of black Slavs, Italians, Jews, and other minorities that she deemed as unfit to reproduce. Here's another. Let's see. I think I've done two takeaways, sister. Here's the third. Did you know Margaret Sanger coined the term birth control? That phrase, birth control, was invented by Margaret Sanger. And she didn't mean like helping the poor minorities control their fertility so they can be better parents to the kids they already have. Nope, that's not what she meant. Here's a direct quote from Margaret Sanger.

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[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Quote.

[Seth Gruber]

Birth control is not contraception. Thoughtlessly and indiscriminately practiced birth control means the cultivation and release of the better racial elements in our society and the gradual suppression, elimination, and eventual extinction of defective stocks. You know, those human weeds who threaten the blossoming of the finest flowers of American civilization. End quote.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Wow, that's disgusting.

[Francis]

There you have it, folks.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah, that's just.

[Seth Gruber]

And any church in America can host a screening of this film right now by going to the1916project.com and bring it to your people.

[Julie Fehring]

So, Seth, it was really shocking and interesting when I saw the film how you illustrated so well that Margaret Sanger actually influenced Adolf Hitler. I don't think a lot of people realize the impact. I mean, the ramifications of that it was shocking. I mean, it was interesting to learn, but shocking nonetheless. Can you comment on that?

[Seth Gruber]

Sure, yeah. I'll try to keep it short. Yeah. If you Google that, by the way, sister, you're going to be. Fact check, fact check. Lie. They didn't know. Listen, the reality is it's true. It's not like Margaret Sanger and Adolf Hitler were pen pals. Okay? They didn't know each other, but she was part of a movement whose activists, whose writings, whose conferences, had a direct influence on the Third Reich. Okay? Like, Sanger was in the office with all the same kind of people. So it's likely that Hitler had read something of Sanger's ideas, that we don't have evidence that they were pen pals. But it was her friends, her movement, the eugenics movement, of which she was one of the foremost articulators and defenders in America, that was a direct impact on the Nazis. In fact, the Nazis got. They base much of their eugenics legislation, guys, on pro eugenics forced sterilization laws that were already on the books in America. They copied us is what I'm saying. And so there's many ways I could answer that question. But for sake of time, here's the short one. One of Margaret Sanger's financiers friends, I think he wrote for her article magazine a couple times. They shared office spaces when Planned Parenthood was established. His name was Madison Grant. Madison Grant was the founder of the American Eugenics Society. Shocker. And one day, his assistant, Leon Whitney, who had written a book on fort forcibly sterilizing the unfit, he got a letter in the mail from a German corporal, recently out of prison and rising in the German political scene, thanking Leon Whitney for his writing on eugenics. So Leon Whitney, who had tried to convince Margaret Sanger to merge her organization with the American Eugenics Society, and he was like, we're doing the same things. Leon Whitney ran over to his boss, Madison Grant Sanger's friend, the founder of the American Eugenics Society, who had once paid to put a black man in a cage with a monkey at the the New York City Bronx Zoo to, quote, illustrate evolution, end quote. And he told Madison Grant, our writings are influencing the Germans. I got this letter. And Madison Grant smiled and chuckled and pulled out his own letter he had just received from the same German corporal, recently out of prison and rising in the German political scene, thanking Madison Grant for his book on eugenics, the passing of the great Race, and calling Madison Grant's book his Bible.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Wow.

[Seth Gruber]

The man who wrote those letters was named Adolf Hitler.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

So, Adam, before we. Sorry, just. Can you put up the QR code for Seth? I just want the audience to see that. You can even leave it on the bottom of the screen if you want. Just because we didn't put it up yet. It's a QR code with the black backgrounds. I want everybody. All right, thank you. I want everybody to see where they could find you. And just Seth, really quick. I don't know if you know where Julie comes from here on Long Island. If you want to close out, just explaining what you guys do.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

You got about 30 seconds.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

The only.

[Julie Fehring]

Yeah, we're the only pregnancy center that provides access to medical services on Long island out of three centers.

[Seth Gruber]

Yes.

[Julie Fehring]

We're 36, 37 years old.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yes.

[Julie Fehring]

We would love to have you come.

[Seth Gruber]

You're amazing.

[Julie Fehring]

So we've been standing for life here in New York. Very difficult, very challenging. Trying to, you know, educate and save as many babies share the gospel. Huge impact, right?

[Francis]

Huge impact. So when you come to the to.

[Julie Fehring]

New York, you'll have to come to.

[Francis]

The warehouse and come there. Yes, for sure.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

And we'll be right back.

[Francis]

We have to cut to break.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

We'll be right back.

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[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Welcome back to the Patriots Podcast. We're continuing our fourth and final segment with Seth Gruber. I can't believe how fast it goes.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

So fast. It does.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

So fast.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Maybe you'll come back and visit your sisters again.

[Seth Gruber]

Yes, I'd love that. We. Yeah, I'll bring the whole family. We'll. We'll hang out in New York.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

That'd be great.

[Elevate Health Announcer]

We have.

[Julie Fehring]

We do have.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

We have Seth's QR code.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

You want to keep that on the screen.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Okay.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

In the corner for him. You know, the whole rest of the. I want people to see that. That brings you right to his website. I added his logo so people can see what he does. I know you have the tour coming up, which is super cool. You have your show, the movie. And if we could just pop up soundview real quick, guys, just so j. Julie, if the audience could just take a screenshot of that, get the QR code, so you could see in Long island what Sam's Pregnancy Services does. It's even really more amazing when she'll delve into it again. It's incredible. Incredible with.

[Seth Gruber]

Amazing.

[Julie Fehring]

We do apr, too. The abortion pill reversal.

[Seth Gruber]

Yep. Abortion pill rescue, Abortion pill reversal. You have just progesterone, which the trans movement and the abortion industry use. And when they use it for their purposes, it's super safe. But when pro lifers use it to save babies, they attack it and say it's dangerous. Which tells you everything you need to know about the modern left today. But because my mom led a pregnancy center, and I've been honored to help keynote galas like that since 2014, they just have such a special place in my heart because it's. That was my mom. That was our legacy. So thank you for what you do.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

They have beautiful galas. They had 600 people recently. And, yeah, the work is incredible.

[Francis]

It is.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

So we're grateful for both of you guys, for everything.

[Francis]

No doubt. I mean, the Spiritual battle is real, and we're fighting it every day. And you're not wrong when you say, like, it really is at the. At the core of everything that we are fighting. Because if you're not going to protect the least of these and the innocence of life, what else are you?

[Announcer]

Nothing.

[Francis]

Nothing else is going to be sacred. There's nothing else that really will be sacred to a society. And we'd love to just hear for a few minutes, a little bit from you on the history, history to educate people on the history of this spiritual battle. It's like you were saying earlier in the first segment, there's nothing new under the sun. This has been going on since the beginning of time. And it's a child sacrifice is really what it is. Are we wrong or are we right?

[Seth Gruber]

The God of Moses, basically every society in human history practice human sacrifice at one point or another. Like, it's just a different mask. Like a has burned his son in the fire. Then Hezekiah routed out pagan worship. Manasseh sacrificed his son. Yet soon after, Josiah abolished child sacrifice. And the back and forth goes on and on and on. It's the issue that has defined God's people throughout history, and it's the issue that defines us today. In Psalm 106, it says, you sacrificed your sons and daughters to demons. The land is desecrated with blood, and so I give you over to be ruled by those who hate you. Those are the words of the Lord to his people regarding what? Baby killing. Baby killing. So because you continue to do that, the land is desecrated. And so I'm done. I'm done with you. Like, I'm gonna give you over to be ruled by pagan hordes who hate you because of the baby killing. Like, does it feel like we're being ruled by people who hate the church and hate America? I mean, praise God, we didn't get Jezebel Harris. But it's not like. It's not like things are all flowery and beautiful. Like, we have a nation to save. And it's because the foundations are destroyed. That's the Bible, too. The Bible says, if the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I mean, Trump was just. Who's my favorite? I love him more than most people, but he was a tourniquet. That's what I try to tell people. Like, that's what I.

[Seth Gruber]

That's what I literally say.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

There's so much, like, I love him, don't get me wrong. But it's way bigger than that.

[Seth Gruber]

He's a tourniquet yeah, right now. Yeah, now it's our job.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

God forgive us.

[Seth Gruber]

It's spiritual.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

We know. Of course, yeah. Forgive them Lord. They know not what they do. Literally you are.

[Julie Fehring]

I saw some video you were sharing, some of the spiritual warfare episodes or incidents when you were making this film, the 1916 Project. Could you just share a few things? Because our viewers, I don't think they appreciate what you went through. You went through a lot. Clearly the enemy did not want this film made. So could you just elaborate on that?

[Seth Gruber]

That's that I can tell you've done some online research listening to me. That's very kind of you. Thanks for spending the time. Thank you. Yeah. Goodness gracious. So we end the film by visiting Munich, Germany, where the first White Rose Resistance operated. So I didn't come up with that name. That was the name of a Christian resistance youth movement in Nazi Germany in 1942 and 1943. And most of the folks were in their 20s. They were in their 20s and they were trying to wake up to church. Not all of them were like born again believers, but many of them were. And one of the most significant leaders and members of the White Rose Resistance was Sophie Scholl, who we named our daughter after our third daughter or our third. Third child. We named her Sophie. And Sophie scholl was a 21 year old. And the short version is they were distributing anti Nazi leaflets trying to wake people up. And it was a social media campaign, pre digital age. And they said, if you know, why do you not act? They said, we are the White Rose Resistance, we are your bad conscience and we will not leave you alone. And the Nazis didn't know who was behind this, but they hated the White Rose Resistance. And so anyways, Fast forward to 1943 in February, Sophie and her older brother Hans go onto the campus of the University of Munich, which by that point was co opted and run by the Third Reich, just like many of the clergy. Many of the clergy. And they began to drop their leaflets throughout the university during class time when the halls were quiet. And then the bell rings and as classes release, Sophie runs three floors up to the to the balcony in the University of Munich where we filmed if you watch my movie. And she threw 100 leaflets three stories down to the atrium below. They were arrested, apprehended four days later. They had their head chopped off. And before Sophie was murdered for just trying to wake up the church, she said, how can we expect righteousness to prevail when there's hardly anyone willing to give themselves up? Individually, to a righteous cause. Such a fine sunny day, and I have to go now. But what does my death matter if through us, thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Wow.

[Seth Gruber]

And her final words before she had her head chopped off. According to the executioner who was later interviewed, her final words were, the sun still shines. So we named our daughter Sophie Sunshine, after Sophie Scholl of the White Rose Resistance. I'm in Munich. It's December of 2023. We're making this movie we had just filmed at the University of Munich. Then we visited the graveside of Hans and Sophie, their headstones where they are buried, the namesake of our daughter. And it was very incredibly moving. These are some heroes of mine. Obviously, it was always inspiring. This story was inspiring to me before I launched my ministry and named it after them. And so we wrap up filming for the day at their headstones. And in the evening, because of the time change, I get a FaceTime call from my wife, and she's in the back of an ambulance. And our Sophie had just had her first of what turned out in the next year and a half to be about six or seven different seizures. But this was her first seizure. And it was probably a febrile seizure, but we didn't know that. So her eyes rolled back. She was starting to turn blue and shaking. It didn't look like she was breathing. And it was the worst seizure she ended up ever having, was her first one. And my wife thought that she had died because she wasn't coming to for several minutes, and it looked like she wasn't breathing to this day. It's the most traumatic day in my wife's life, of course. And I get face time from the back of an ambulance right after my wife thought our daughter was dead, hours after filming at the headstone and graveside of our daughter's namesake. And so it felt as if the enemy was saying, you know, you continue to make this film and you'll be visiting your own Sophie's graveside.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Unfortunately, I believe that.

[Julie Fehring]

Horrible.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

Thank God she was.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Thank God is right. Praise God.

[Seth Gruber]

And she's our craziest, most energetic. Like, we think she was raised by wolves for the first year before we got her.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

That's all right. You'll take it all day long, right? As long as she's here and healthy. That's awesome.

[Seth Gruber]

Yeah, that's right.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

God bless her.

[Host 1 (Patriots Podcast)]

We're so happy that you've been able to join us today.

[Seth Gruber]

Well, me too. We got to do this again. You guys are our kind of people. My wife would adore you guys.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

We are totally God and country. That's what we do.

[Seth Gruber]

That's right.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah, we.

[Seth Gruber]

So you guys and your guests, you're welcome to come out to D.C. for the march for Life. Because the day before, on January 22, we have a conference called Life or Death Con. And we've got Abby Johnson, Megan Basham, Steve Dace, and more. The day before the March for Life, it is a Christian nationalist, tear down the high places, Give God a reason to show America mercy. Kind of.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

I think we should take the Patriots podcast on the road. That we can do.

[Elevate Health Announcer]

Definitely.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Yeah. I mean, I'm. Listen, I'm known to be in D.C. in January sometimes. Yeah. But I. Yeah, we would love that. Actually. We've. I've been to the March for Lives. One of there was a Pastor Joni who now moved to Florida. I've been up to Albany to fight for it. And it was a very big. It was. My grandmother was really an activist. I like, don't call it what it is. She was a. They called it right to life with the rose, the red rose that I have some of her songs, rescues. She was big, big, big into that. I spent a lot of summers with my grandmother in Florida outside of.

[Seth Gruber]

You've got a great heritage clinics, and.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

She was mentoring young mothers. And it was incredible. And I don't even think I realized the magnitude of it back then. I get very emotional now. I'm very proud of that. Our family is very. We're all pro life and yeah, of course. I mean, I can't even fathom another way, but.

[Seth Gruber]

Amen.

[Francis]

But we all have to keep doing the incredible work that you are doing and supporting people like you and giving people a platform and educating the population that, you know, this is the truth. This is what we're dealing with and this is how you can shift culture. Shift culture for Christ is really what it's about. We have to wrap up in a minute and a half, but I'm going.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

To run through a couple of announcements. But, Seth, if you want to stay for a minute, you don't have to. We do say a prayer at the end. I'm going to go really, really quick through some of these, so control them, if you don't mind. Oh, he's beating me, too. Can we start with the Scott Libado, please? On I got you threw me off. On December 6th, we have Scott Libado and the art show with a bunch of conservative artists. We're very excited. The next day, we have our first annual holiday shopping extravaganza. We have over 30 vendors. I keep adding another one. I don't know where I'm going to stick them in this room, but it's going to be a lot of shopping for the holidays. So please come down. Bring your friends. On the 13th. We do have Fred Rubino, comedian. He's fantastic and hysterical. We do have a patriotic caravan on the 14th going from the Belmore train station to Diker Heights in Brooklyn and spumone gardens. And one shout out to Kevin Downey Jr. Our good friend on 103.9. He's always shouting us out. We love you, Kevin celebrate his 60th birthday here at the warehouse on Friday night. Even though he doesn't look it. I hope I age like that. And I think that wraps it up for me. I don't know what else is in the in the folder.

[Francis]

Here we go. Heavenly Father, we thank you for guiding our conversations today as we face the heavy reality of abortion and the spiritual warfare surrounding it. We ask for your truth and compassion to shine brighter than the darkness. Lord, Soften hearts across our nation to value every life you create. Renew and strengthen your word in our hearts and minds so that it strengthens us to speak boldly for the voiceless and to offer hope and healing and grace to every mother, father and family that has been touched by this issue. Clothe us in your armor as we continue this battle. It is not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual forces and that we seek to distort your design. Fill us with courage, unity and unwavering love and put your covering over the people like Seth and Julie and all the others around the world doing this incredible work. May your justice roll like a river and your mercy transform hearts. In Jesus name we pray.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Amen. Amen.

[Francis]

As always, keep your faith strong, your.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Family close, and your freedom alive. Seth, thank you. I can't wait to have you here.

[Julie Fehring]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Host 2 (Patriots Podcast)]

Guaranteed human.