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Eric Bowling
If I, if I can give you bad news at $5 and 813 cents away from all time high in diesel fuel. Bond report is worse. As we talked about this morning, something happened Friday afternoon. The bond players jumped in. They were waiting on the sidelines hoping that prices would come down, wouldn't get involved. When, when Trump came out of Beijing without a deal to open to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, they just piled into the fear. Premium and interest rates started on Friday. Yesterday they continued Today they jumped even higher. So 30 year pushing 5 almost 5 2. Now the 10 year, almost 47 which is violently elevated my friend. Violently elevated.
Steve Bannon
So wow.
Eric Bowling
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Steve Bannon
Thank you brother. Well, great. We'll, we'll talk to you tomorrow morning on this morning show. Thank you. Eric Bowling. Fantastic. The afternoon bond report from Eric Bowling. Okay, we are packed for the next two hours. Well, let's go. We got a cold open. John Solomon's with us. Degrasse is with us. So much is going on and just to tee it up folks, that's Correct. The judge rescinded the order for the observers for the Georgia Election Board to be in the bunker. I'm not kidding you. This is the way it rolls in Georgia. Sally Grubbs is going to join us. Cold open, John Solomon, let's hit it. Given that you've spent months trying to encourage, persuade the president to endorse John Corn in the Texas primary, and given that the NRC has and he invested heavily to help Cornyn win that primary, how personally disappointed or frustrated are you with the president's decision to endorse Kennedy Cashman today?
John Solomon
Well, I think you all know my position on this issue. I've made it very clear for months now. And Senator Cornyn is a principal conservative. He is a very effective senator for the state of Texas. But I know none of us control what the president does. He made his decision about that. That doesn't change the way I feel and I am certainly supportive, I will continue to be supportive of Senator Cornyn. His reelection.
Katie
He closely contested Republican runoff for an open Senate seat in Texas. President Trump just threw his support behind Ken Paxton snubbing incumbent John Cornyn. That election is next Tuesday. Today, voters in six states will cast their ballots in primary elections, most notably in Kentucky, where the President is actively campaigning against the GOP incumbent Thomas Massie, and in Georgia, where the President has yet to back any of the GOP candidates who hope to unseat Democratic incumbent John Ossoff. This endorsement is, is it tricky? Is it risky for the president to endorse Ken Paxton, the controversial lieutenant governor out there? I'm sorry, the Texas AG out there, or is John Cornyn not as popular as he once was?
Greg
Well, I think both could be true, Katie. At the same time, to be honest with you, it is tricky because, you know, their public polling has been all over the place in this race. Most polls have it as a, you know, two or three point race between Cornyn and Paxton. And furthermore, the real concern is that Paxton, who is scandalous, plagued. Katie. I mean there's, we don't have to go through all of the things that are in Ken Paxton's past. They've been litigated. They've been all over the place. He is going to get into a race against James Talarico, a dynamic, young, very well funded Democratic nominee and state representative, and that's going to be a very tough race. Now, Texas is still red. Like, let's not forget that. Greg could talk about Georgia, which is has turned the corner, is no longer a reliably red state. Texas has been reliably red for a very long time. It is getting blue, potentially. It is not purple. It is red. So the Republicans should still win. Now, the bigger issue here is that the entire Senate Republican political operation has been oriented toward attacking Ted Paxton for the last several months. So now they're going to have to turn on a dime and, and spend hundreds of millions of dollars boosting Ted Paxton, or not, or maybe just say, we're not going to win the seat, we're not going to spend the money. But I don't think that's going to happen. I think they're going to have to spend the money. And the real hope is from Republicans that Donald Trump's political operations, all of his various super pacs and organizations that are in his control or ostensibly in his control, will spend 3 to $500 million part of that, to boost Paxton, Paxton in this race. And Paxton is going to need it because, again, Talarico has a lot of money. Democrats have a lot of money, too. So. And there's no doubt that John Cornyn is not as popular as he once was. He likes to point out he's been a reliable vote for Trump. He's voted with Trump 99% of the time. All of that is true. But he's been in office for a long time. His work on gun legislation did hurt him with some elements of the Republican base. And, and I think people are ready for something new. I think the polls in the primary showed that. So, yes, it's risky, but also, this is, this is the direction Republicans are going, and they're going to have to try to make it work for them in a. In what's expected to be a bad year for the gop.
Katie
Cornyn getting the snub, what is it going to mean for Texas?
Mark
Yeah. So, Katie, this is something that has been an ongoing drama for several months now on what the President was going to do when it came to this race. He's obviously much more naturally aligned with Ken Paxton. Donald Trump is the reason that Ken Paxton actually was not convicted in his impeachment trial in Texas a few years ago. Trump convinced members to vote against that. But what this means is that Senate Republicans are. Could very well have to spend 100, maybe $200 million to ensure that they keep control of Texas against Democrat James Talarico. And that is something that is absolutely terrifying to Republicans, especially as their map is only growing and trying to keep hold of the Senate.
Katie
So, Mark, when you're looking at the money spent in Texas, if you're not looking at Texas turning blue, which is I guess always, you know, the white whale. What other races are you looking at in terms of being endangered by this expand in Texas?
Mark (continued)
Well, if I could comment on Texas for just a second, Katie. I mean the points well taken here is that even under the best case scenario, the reality is that Republican Republicans are going to have to spend 1,200,300 million more dollars than they would have had to spend otherwise. This should, this should be a safe seat for Republicans and John Cornyn is a very safe senator and they've got a very, very talented Democratic nominee on the Democratic side. So Talarico is really good. Cornyn would have been probably taking the race and may still he wins the race. But there's no question that Paxton is a much, much more vulnerable candidate to Talarico. So it's just, this is, it's weird that it came so late, first of all, but it's clear that Trump just couldn't help. I'm sure he resisted the advice he got from smart Republicans. And the senators up there. They all wanted corn because they want, they don't want that money spent in Texas. They need to spend in other places like North Carolina and Ohio, Iowa, all these other places. So it's just, it's going to be a huge drag on the money and it just, it's just a, it's a self inflicted blow that was unnecessary.
Steve Bannon
Tuesday the 19th of May, year of our Lord 2026. What an afternoon. Beyond crazy. Also, just throw it in there. The judge rescinded his order from this morning. There are not going to be any observers allowed into the bunker in metropolitan Atlanta. Sally Grubbs is going to join us. Chip Roy got a major infusion from a donor today in that race. We'll get there. Degrasse is here to talk about that. John Solomon, lead off, Solomon. First off, this was as much about John Thune not getting with the program and President Trump loves Ken Paxton, but this is John Thune. I mean the president, as you know, you were up this morning, couldn't even go to it. We did an hour. The president at the ballroom making his pitch because he gets up and looks at the Hill. Your old newspaper. First two stories Thune and Senate Republicans look for off ramp on ballroom. Second is that personally John Thune personally said we're not going to do the weaponization fund and we're not going to do, we're not attaching Save America to any bills. That's not a way Donald Trump wants to have his morning Diet Coke. Right. And seeing that this was a shot across the bow of the United States and the leader of the Senate is saying, I'm not a lame duck, bro. Your thoughts?
Harmeet Dhillon
Well, he certainly is a lame duck when it comes to the Save America Act. This man cannot get a piece of legislation that is 80% popular with the American public. I think that is a political failure to find me another political leader in an earlier generation that couldn't get an 80% thing there. He doesn't want to make senators actually debate like the Calhouns and the Clays did in the great Congresses have passed. And he's really. Other than the big beautiful bill, which was a great success for all members of Congress, he hasn't really put much of the Trump agenda the last two years. And he shows his true colors. The first time, he doesn't get something he wants from the President. He's turned down the president on five or six things. For the first time, he can't get his buddy John Cornine into the seat or to the endorsement. He turns on the president. I think you know something about loyalty. He. When it's that thin. Right. So listen, there's no chance that a Republican's not gonna win that Senate race. Talarico is gonna be redefined very quickly. I hear all these things, and you just played that sizzle. I mean, Ken Paxton just won a statewide Senate race or a G race very easily. It's ludicrous that the race is in play. The real question now is, does Donald Trump make John Thune's life miserable and try to create pressure to oust him? Because I don't think Jonathan is very popular with about a third of his caucus right now.
Steve Bannon
No. All we need is 27 votes, folks. I'm with John. I think they're very upset, and I think it's time to make a move. Now, you've got a great piece up from this morning on California with Herme Dillon, the team Georgia. You've been covering Georgia. And we had. They got a secret bunker. A judge gives them the Georgia Election Board. Five members of the Georgia Election Board. Sally Grub's going to just go be observant. Since nobody knew about this and it's against the Georgia code, it just gets rescinded an hour ago. Is Georgia. Is Kemp running a third World banana republic, Sir?
Harmeet Dhillon
Yeah. I don't think it's Kemp. This is all Brad Ratzenberger. I think Kemp would not pick such a silly fight. Right. I don't think Kemp would pick a fight on the voter registration rolls. Nothing to hide in Georgia is what I think Governor Kemp would say. Remember, Governor Kemp came to the rescue of President Trump and got really Scott, alongside of President Trump in 2024, patched up the differences. This really is a Brad Raffsenberger thing. Ratzenberger is an election nerd. He likes the election bureaucrats. And at the end of the day, I think this probably goes to the Georgia Supreme Court, probably gets overturned at some point.
Steve Bannon
Well, it won't get overturned tonight. Hopefully it gets overturned before November. Your California story, why is that of national importance, sir?
Harmeet Dhillon
Well, three weeks ago we reminded everybody that that perfect election we were told to swallow in 2020, the one that was the most secure in election history, wasn't right. We now know that China and Iran and others intruded in foreign. And there was also other business. The second thing we had to swallow is any time in the last five years you raised any question about election integrity, even if you had a factual predicate to do so, you were called an election denier by the media and by the Democrats. And it's kind of funny because most of the people that raise these election integrity issues aren't deniers at all. They acknowledge elections occur. They want to make them more secure. They want to make them more safe, more trustworthy. We well, over the last couple of years since the President came back into office, this Justice Department has uncovered dozens of cases of election integrity fraud. And it isn't just one non citizen voting here. This in California is going to turn out to be a systemic effort to hijack elections by registering people under false pretenses. That's what this woman admitted to. And when you look at the, excuse me, the plea agreement, Steve, there's a mention of the facilitators. This is clearly this plea deal is designed to roll up on larger players in the California liberal and Democratic establishment. This is a first step to a larger case here. And if you prove it went on in the nirvana of liberal dreams of California, you can prove it went on anywhere in the country. I want to remind people one other story we broke a couple of years ago. This scheme, this pay to play registration scheme, which violates federal law, looks very similar to what the Michigan State Police referred to the FBI back in 2020 when they found a place in Muskegon, Michigan that was basically a fake ballot farm. That case got sent to the FBI, but the Chris Wray FBI killed it. The Cash Patel FBI has revived that. One of the questions I think we're all going to have over the next several weeks is, is There an operation like this in most of the battleground states where either House, Senate or presidential races are at stake. And how much more can we learn about it in the next couple of months before 2026 rolls around? But election deniers we are no longer. We are actually been validated time and again on serious election integrity issues that the left wants to keep pretending don't exist. This Justice Department, Harmeet Dhillon, Todd, Blanche, Cash Patel, not going to let that election denial line go along any longer. They are now proving the case. They're delivering the receipts. Look for a lot more of these indictments in the next few months.
Steve Bannon
John Solomon, you follow us in what, 45 minutes? We'll let you.
Harmeet Dhillon
45 minutes. Kick things off with Senator Rick Scott. Tonight we're going to have some fun.
Steve Bannon
Rick Scott, now that's a man that looks to me like a potential leader
Joe Allen
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United States Senate. Start telling.
Mike Lindell
War rooms.
Steve Bannon
War rooms all in. War rooms all in. Thank you, John Solomon. Thank you, sir. Rick Scott. Now that's an interesting idea. H. Let me think about that for a second. Okay. Philip Patrick was going to be on tonight but it's too crazy. It's too wild. It's too much hot politics. What's happening around the country and how the MAGA movement, the war in posse is having an impact all next
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Steve Bannon
Okay, we're going to be in Texas. We're going to be in Georgia. We're going to go. We're going to be everywhere next couple hours. Just stick around. First we're going to go with Alex DeGrasse. DeGrasse. One of the smartest and bravest, most courageous political moves ever was was Ken Paxton deciding At the Spur, you know, with just hours ago, because they had Cornyn with all the lies and misrepresentations. President Trump was going about to endorse him when Caroline Wren came, this concept said, hey, throw down. Make the Save America act it. Tell him you'll step aside if Cornyn, if. If Cornyn jumps on board and gets it passed. Of course, everybody knows Cornyn had no interest in that. That's what the leadership is. Ken Paxton did it and literally changed political history. It was an incredibly courageous move, but it's been so much more than that. The grassroots really gotten back to this one. Alex Grass, your thoughts?
Alex DeGrasse
I think it's great. I think ultimately, Steve, you know, the turnout, the energy is super important across all these races. I know you were talking about in the earlier block, and I mean, people are just really fired up about this. And of course, it's always complicated when it's an incumbent senator and you've got votes, and the president obviously is weighing all types of things. And I don't really buy some of this stuff that was in the cold open. I mean, a lot of this stuff has been litigated. Right. The, you know, the, the charges against him in 2022, you're not feeling.
Steve Bannon
You're not. You're saying it's not. You're. It's not gonna be 300 million. That's all the left just throwing out stuff like that.
Alex DeGrasse
I agree. I mean, look, Tal. Rico, I think, is really flawed. I mean, I think he's.
Steve Bannon
He's a freak. No, he. No, no, no, no. Not flawed. He's. He's a freak. People don't know. Once they start peeling him back, it's gonna. He's a freak. Okay, This. A guy that's still in the seminary. He's never had a job. He's a freak. He's a. This guy's weird. So that's. That whole thing is going to come. They're. They're going to do that. They're going to peel that back, like in Texas. Go ahead.
Alex DeGrasse
He's got a girlfriend. I mean, I don't know. You know, so he's talking about that. It's kind of out of nowhere. I try to look that up.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, yeah.
Chip Roy
He's got.
Steve Bannon
He's got a girlfriend. Yeah. Okay. I want to see. I haven't seen the pictures yet. I'm not buying that one.
Alex DeGrasse
Bring her out on the trail and, you know, maybe have her speak on your behalf and stuff, because I think people would be interested in that. So, anyway, all really Bizarre stuff. And I think, you know, I think that it's really important for Ken and he's got to get money. So I think people really got it because he's going to need some money because take it or leave it tall, Rico is a freak and he's going to have a lot of money. So in that regards, they're right. And the left is just obsessed with Texas. But, you know, we've heard this like the last three cycles and I don't think they've ever even gotten closer than 11.
Steve Bannon
How much of this, how much is. How much of this is a shot across the bow of Jonathan. President wakes up. President doesn't go out in the hot sun with serving breakfast on the table for his health. He cancels meetings. He go because he's doing the AI thing today. We're going to get to all that. He's doing all kinds of things. He's got the war, he's got his national security. He's out there in the hot sun for an hour extemporaneously just going through, talking about all the different things he brings. Because the Hill newspaper has John Thune says we're not going to do weaponization. I don't agree with it. We're looking for an off ramp on the ballroom. And we're not putting the save. We're not clipping the Save America act to the fisa. We're not doing anything. We're not doing. You're a lame duck. You got to accept your lame duck. Trump put a shot across his bow that, hey, lame duck this, sir.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, I mean, look, I think that from what I'm reading, of course, in the press, there's obviously a lot of, you know, contention there. I mean, there's a lot of priorities that the President has in the Senate. I think it's just been obviously really frustrating. On one hand you've got a lot of the nominees are through, which I think it's a positive thing. And other hand, you've got obviously seems to be some friction on whether it be the ballroom, security, Save America, which is obviously the cornerstone of President Trump's agenda. And we have to figure out a way to pass that. I mean, to me, even if they need to maybe just scale some of it down, maybe take some voter ID and all of it's obviously key, but they have to figure out a way forward. I think ultimately it's incumbent on the Senate to try to.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, the President. The president. You're not going to call the President up and say, hey, the parliamentarian is saying we can't do weaponization. He doesn't, he doesn't roll like that. It's not. You got to come. You're supposed to be a solutions provider. You're a leader. This guy hasn't led anything. 27 votes removes him. Is that correct, sir?
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, that's right. So I think, you know, I mean, I think we really need options on the table to try to move all this stuff forward. So, you know, I haven't, you know, I'm not aware some of the specifics, but, you know, I think it is a big message to folks. I mean, people are going crazy about this one. I mean, this one, this is a big one. And I think, you know, for us, Steve, that were there in the dark periods, which I love that President Trump sort of referenced because that was a really small list. Of course Ken was there. And obviously, yes, there's no such thing as a perfect politician, but, you know, Ken was there in the breach. I mean, really, when that number was very small in terms of.
Steve Bannon
I'm going to read that. I'm going to read. Yeah, I'm going to read his true social post. 750 words in the second hour. It is very moving. This is a grassroots victory. Degrasse, you guys, you and Caroline just led the fight. Incredible. We got to run through the tape for next Tuesday. Early voting is urgent. This is a grassroots effort. Of course. Cassidy finishes third. Cornyn is got the. Has got now a race that looks like very tough for him. These incumbents. I mean, it's never happened. And that's why the least during Politico is how furious the Republican senators are at Trump. They're not furious at Cornyn. Right. For not doing his job. They're furious of President Trump. So this can be interesting, Degrasse, where do people get you? In fact, your strategy on this redistricting is what's made the House competitive and within hollering distance of holding the House. I think the Senate's. If you don't remove John Thune as leader and get somebody in there like a Rick Scott that's prepared to put some energy into these things and try to pass President Trump's agenda, I just don't think. I think Georgia's gone. I think North Carolina's gone. You're just not going to get the grassroots. Grassroots is sitting there. I'm not going to do this. I'm not knocking on doors for Whatley. I'm not going to, you know, knock on doors for whoever is it Buddy Carter and in Collins, they're just not going to do it. There's just not that. It's just not the fire. You can tell. I think Ohio's in play. I think Alaska's in play. I think Maine's in play. And we got big, big, big worries. Where do people go for you, sir.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, I mean, look, I would love to see everyone come together. You know, that's really what. Because all this is so important. I mean, you look at we did in the House, Steve and I just was meeting with all these candidates. So we had a sort of a meet and greet with all the frontline candidates. And I was given some donations and helping out. I mean, really, we've got some great guys and ladies on the offensive in some of those key seats that President Trump won. So on the Senate would be good, I think, if we can all come together. Hopefully we really do need a Kumbayasi.
Steve Bannon
No one wants to say that. We're going to. Are you going to send. You're in the war room, dude. You're going to send Kumbaya here. I think we ought to all come. We come together when we have victories like today. Karl Rove is gnashing his teeth on Fox. Cornyn is out in Texas. This is. Hey, once we take them out, then we can come together and have a victory. Degrassco's Kumbaya Army.
Harmeet Dhillon
Give me.
Steve Bannon
Give me your social media, dude. Get back to work.
Alex DeGrasse
I'm at. I'm @DeGrasse81 on X Truth Instagram. The whole thing we'll get. But yeah, everyone got to vote. Big one in Texas. Nothing's ever finished.
Steve Bannon
Why did you let. Why did you, like Caroline go over for the picnic or the. The congressional picnic? She needs a food taster. Why are you not there? I don't want Caroline Wren tasting any food this afternoon. They're going to be slipping something in there, so she got to watch that.
Alex DeGrasse
I'm on my desk working. But I'm glad Carolyn's up because she deserves, you know, she was really the force behind all this. And one day that will be Wren.
Steve Bannon
So Bomber command, Caroline Wren. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much. Chip Roy. Other big news out of Texas. I guess you got an infusion of cash today. It was announced. So the level playing field. Are you running through the tape, sir? Are you resting on your laurels?
Chip Roy
Yeah, Steve, we're finishing strong. I'm out on the campaign trail, as you can tell, in my truck. I think we've put about 40,000 miles on it this year. We've been Hitting event after event. We were with Ted Cruz on Sunday. We were. Yesterday we were traveling the state. Now we're up near Dallas Fort Worth. So we're going to keep our foot on the gas. Yes, we got a significant pop of cash from a handful of donors over the last two weeks. And that's level the playing field in a material way. And we're getting our message out. Running a strong close.
Steve Bannon
What is this when you're out with the people, what are people saying this race is going to come down to? A decision about what, sir?
Chip Roy
Number one, that they want someone that's going to carry forward the strong Attorney General's office that Ken Paxton has been leading. Number two, that they need someone who's an attorney, who's actually practiced in a courtroom that they believe has the skills and the competency to be able to deliver. Number three, someone who has got a proven record of standing alongside President Trump. Now, you know, my opponent is trying to attack me on that front and say that I haven't been there. And we're making very clear that I've been delivering alongside President Trump that we put out, you know, we've delivered on the big beautiful bill. So much so. And you know this, Steve, that I've got California PACs running ads in this primary against me because we delivered on repealing green new scam subsidies. As you know, cuz we were in the fire a year ago, right now, it was because of my efforts that we were able to stop Murkowski, Collins, Tillis, the rest of the senators from watering down the good stuff we wanted in the House. Now, you and I wanted to go further, but we got literally the best we could get to get something finished for the President. And my opponent's trying to say, oh, Chip, you know, his team put out some truth socials against you in December of 24. Well, that is true. And he's running ads on that. But what they don't then say is that we worked with the President to deliver on the big beautiful bill. My point being, yes, I stood against a clean debt ceiling increase. Steve, neither you nor I know anybody in the war wanted to raise the debt ceiling $6 trillion.
Steve Bannon
We fought it.
Chip Roy
We fought it.
Steve Bannon
We fought in the President. And the President understood that. I talked to him and said, look, we just can't. It says something. We just can't do that. We're just psychologically, this is why McCarthy got turfed. So.
Chip Roy
Right. No, that's exactly right.
Steve Bannon
That's a guy that. That's a guy that says that. That's that's just cheating. Where do people go to follow your campaign? Where they go to see the if they're in Texas, where they go to see where you're going to be so they can go see you and ask a few questions. And online, where do people go if they want to donate, volunteer, all that. Where they go, Chip?
Chip Roy
Yeah. Chiproy.com they find me on X Twitter on chiproytx. I'm in Rockwall tonight. You can look online and find the address where we're going to be tomorrow. I'm going to be in Georgetown. I'm going to be down in Austin standing with our law enforcement against our crazy DA down there, Garza, that's endangering the people of Austin. And then I'll end up down in New Braunfels at a good event event back in the district in which I currently represent. And then I got to fly to D.C. steve, because we've got to go past the funding for ICE and Border Patrol and I got to keep working with my staff to go after Islam and introduce legislation to make sure we're standing, standing against the radicalization of our country through the Islamification of Texas and America. So I'm hard at work burning both ends of the candle as a member of Congress and running for ag.
Steve Bannon
Run through the tape, sir. Early voting this week.
Chip Roy
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Game day is next Tuesday, the day after Memorial Day. Thank you, Chip Roy. Let's put up Chip Roy's site and social media. Where you go. Okay. Next, when we come back on the break, we'll go to the bunker. Sally Grubbs is a member of the Georgia Election Board. Is actually because the judge ruled not so fast. The judge rescinded the order from the morning show. I kid you not. The judge rescinded the order. Sally Grubbs is not in the bunker. You know where she is on the war room. Next.
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Steve Bannon
We are we've done Texas, we've done we've done California. We are now going to do Georgia. South Carolina's on deck. Also, the artificial intelligence executive order I think is being signed even even as we are here. It's closed the press but we'll get Joe Allen in a moment. Sally Grubbs, you're a member of the five member in the entire state of Georgia. There's only five citizens on the state election board. Your fiduciary responsibility to make sure these things run properly according to Georgia code. Georgia code specifically says you can't do these things with, you know, without public scrutiny without the officials being there, et cetera. In the bunker. You guys went to court. Judge agreed this morning as we left the war room at 12 noon, that Sally Grubbs was going to have a ringside seat as an observer. Ma', am, you're not in the bunker. Why did the judge rescind? Is this a banana republic down in Georgia? What is going on?
Sally Grubbs
You know, Steve, it sure feels like it, because Even on the SCB, you know, our counsel that comes from the AG's office is conflicted out of this matter because we are a state agency and they also represent the secretary of state. So we're sitting here without counsel at this point in time. That would have to be approved through the governor's office, is what I'm told. And so it's very frustrating. STEVE apparently, the order that was entered this morning was an ex parte order, and the secretary was not there and didn't have, I guess, representation. And they claimed that they did not have noticed of this. But it's so funny because we we talked about it in public at our SEB meetings back in March, in April, in May, our chairman reached out to the secretary of state's office. We tried everything the nice way we tried to get entrance by asking permission, even though that's what the the code said, is that everything that the secretary does should be in public. And so then the judge rescinded the order. There' apparently a hearing that will be scheduled on the books for May 28, but of course, that's going to be after this election. So the best we can hope for at this point in time is for this to be corrected before the general election, and we'll have to go from there.
Steve Bannon
STEVE yeah, but it's a principle. It's a principle that after years, this thing was stolen in 2020, after years of working on this and going to court and spending all this money. ABBEY LO these guys come down there, after all this, the bad guys are still having their, you know, they go into a court, they rule on something, then they go back, they claim something else. Next thing you know, it's not good enough to say we're going to correct it next time. People have been saying, we're going to correct it next time, all for six years. It ain't never corrected. Georgia should be embarrassed and humiliated. It's a great state. It's a state that is an economic power throughout the world. And here you saw in Fulton county what they did there. It was a joke. It mocked everything in Georgia. And now this is Just ridiculous. And when a judge issues a TRO and then rescinds it hours later, and an observer, a member of the Georgia election board, is not allowed in something when it's right there in Georgia code, it just looks ridiculous. And people just going to give up on elections, right? Yes. We'll solve it next time. Where there's no guarantee you're going to solve it next time because it's just going to be more of the madness, ma'. Am.
Sally Grubbs
You know, Steve, it is more than madness. I mean, I eat, sleep and drink this all day, every day. For six years, I've been doing this, spending time away from family, from work. It's cost me plenty of money. But I'm going to continue to fight because I feel like America is worth it. You know, Georgia is the largest state east of the Mississippi. It is a wonderful state. Our number one producing thing is agriculture. We feed people in Georgia. You know, we have wonderful state senators who are farmers that put food on the table of Georgians. And what's such a shame is that you have a secretary of state that is now behaving in the same manner. And as the commission chair in Fulton county, like when they say, oh, we don't want the ballots, we want them destroyed. We want to destroy the ballots. Oh, the FBI has the ballots. Well, we want them back. So we're going to spend, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars having Abby Lowell come to get the ballots back.
Katie
Why?
Sally Grubbs
Because they wanted them destroyed. It makes no sense, Steve. It just absolutely makes no sense. It drives you crazy.
Steve Bannon
But this, I think you and the rest of your team and the folks in there stood in this breach for six years are American patriots and heroes. And when the history of this time is written, it was the folks like you that stood in, refused to bend is the reason we're celebrating 250 years of American independence. You're exactly like the Patriots in 1775 and 1776. So honored to have you on here, Sally, since you're not going to be since you're not going to be in the bunker tonight, watch your social media so people can follow you since you will have Internet, ma', am, at first
Sally Grubbs
vice chair, Georgia gop. But as soon as I leave my office, I'm headed to Cobb county, where there's been a dumpster fire all day long with pull pad issues, long wait lines. There's been issues in Cherokee county, and guess what? Fulton County, Gwinnett County, De Gabb County. So it's time for me to get to the bottom of what's going on there, Steve?
Steve Bannon
Georgia. Unbelievable, ma'. Am. Such a great state. Such great people. This thing's got to get sorted. Sally Grubbs, thank you you. Honored to have you on here.
Sally Grubbs
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Jordan Pace going to join us in a minute from South Carolina. Huge developments down there on the redistricting. I've got to go. Right now in the. Believe in the Oval Office. They're signing an executive order on artificial intelligence. We got a cold open. Our own Joe Allen is here to break it down for us.
Sally Grubbs
The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution.
Greg
All. What happened?
Steve Bannon
Okay, I struck a chord. But I think we're at the cusp of using AI for probably the biggest positive transformation that education has ever seen. And the way we're going to do that is by giving every student on the planet an artificially intelligent but amazing personal tutor.
Katie
Only a few years ago, AI was not a factor in our lives.
Steve Bannon
We're going to give every teacher on the planet an amazing artificially intelligent teaching assistant.
Philip Patrick
Last December, Time magazine selected its Person of the year for 2025. And it was this time it was the architects of artificial Intelligence. Interesting. One way to say this is that within three to five years we'll have what is called general intelligence, AGI, which can be defined as a system that is as smart as the smartest mathematician, physicist, you know, artist, writer, thinker, politician. Every classroom, every hospital, every laboratory, every person and every relationship you have. I know what many of you are feeling about that. I can hear you. There is a fear.
Steve Bannon
There is a fear.
Philip Patrick
Fear in your generation. If that the future has already been written, that the machines are coming. What happens when every single one of us has the equivalent of the smartest human on every problem in our pocket?
Steve Bannon
Social media rewrote the discovery model. AI is rewriting production as we sit here. I know it. Deal with it. Like I said, it's a tool. Hey, like I said, you can. You can hear me now or you can pay me later.
Philip Patrick
What does it mean to be human in the age of AI? What does it mean to be a child to an adult? To be a leader?
Sally Grubbs
This was. This is. Here's what's happening. We're using a new AI system as our reader. Yeah. Yeah. So that is. That is a lesson learned for us.
Philip Patrick
What does it mean for economics? What does it mean for jobs? You know, all of that.
Sally Grubbs
I am so sorry. There's plenty of opportunities. I hope to take some really good pictures and to celebrate you with your loved ones as well. Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Are we going to do the rest.
Philip Patrick
Yeah, because we as humans have never had a competitor that is not human but of similar or greater level of intelligence. And it is unpredictable what we human will do. He used to say that what would happen is in magic, when people don't understand things, they either decide that it's a new religion or they take up arms. And so he would say, well, are we going to take up arms to AI or make it a new religion? And I said, I hope it's a religion because it's, I benefit from the religion. I guess,
Steve Bannon
I guess we're doing, getting our job done here. Joanne Joe Allen Vox Populi, Vox DEI People are not happy and they're letting it be known they're not happy, particularly with all the gobbledygook they're being spoon fed by AI Sir.
Joe Allen
Yes, Steve, what you heard there is the voice of the human being against the machine. It turns out that you can spoon feed people propaganda about how great it is, that the machines will be smarter than you, they'll do your job better than you. Eventually you won't have a job except for to maybe create AI slop until the entire planet is filled with AI goop. Yes, it turns out that Gen Z sees through all of that. So that was four different commencement speeches that were booed. Three of them because the speakers were boosting AI and one of them because the names that were supposed to be read off at Glendale Community College in Arizona, the names got, they glitched out. The AI that they programmed to read out the names glitched out so they didn't have their names read. And you know, people would say, oh well, you know, these sorts of mistakes happen, blah, blah, blah. No, it's completely unacceptable. And it definitely, it symbolizes the entirety of what they're trying to do. From Silicon Valley on out to education, to corporate life, to government agencies, to the military, they are flooding every aspect of human life with these autonomous agents, these non human minds. And as it turns out, it doesn't create a utopian environment. It makes everything irritating. It makes people feel demoralized. And yeah, I'm actually, I'm really thrilled, Steve. You know, sometimes you, you wake up and you think, you know, will everyone just simply bend the knee to the digital God? Well, it turns out that all across the country, from the data centers to the universities, people are sick of it. And I think the winds are at our backs
Steve Bannon
and we're going to have a little work to do. But we've had work to do before on the executive order coming Out. Everybody take a deep breath. We're going to get this done right. When things are like, oh my gosh, hang on, take a deep breath. Everything's going to be fine. What I find interesting is these kids have been at the very cutting edge of having AI crammed in on them for education. So they're not truly getting a real education. The AI slop just being dumped on them. And then you get these lazy like Glendale Community College. How hard is it to put together your commencement list when I hear, oh, we depended upon AI and it did wrong. Dude, it's a. It's a graduation list from Glendale Community College. How can take number two pencil, get a pad of paper. We're just going to do it and read them out. I don't see. This is the problem. And these kids are seeing it all the time. Plus the job opportunities we know for kids coming up, particularly the kids that have sacrificed and worked the hardest. Not the Joe Allens of the world, the Steve Bannon's. We weren't stem, we weren't double E majors. Right? We weren't those things that guys were working at 3 in the morning ever since they were in high school or grammar school. No, the cutting edge of the kids, yes, there's a few select. But by and large that generation is not seeing the opportunities. Why? Because of everything related to this technology and the arrogance, Joe. Of our betters. That would be the oligarchs, right? Just cramming down. You saw how unctuous they were because they never in a million years you saw a couple of them like, wow, what's happening here? They were shocked that the peasants actually had a say. So in this Joe Allen, just hang. I know you got to bounce for a meeting. I just want you to hang for a second. I just got one more question about the. About the executive order. Also, Jordan Pace from the house in South Carolina. A lot going on there on this renditioning. We are packed all the way through the 7 o' clock hour. In fact, I've had to ask Philip Patrick or Birchgold to come in tomorrow. We got a lot to talk about. Interest rates, capital markets, all that Bannon. B A N N O N 989898 the ultimate guide for Investing in Gold and Precious Metals in the Age of Tron. Get it today from Birch Gold.
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Steve Bannon
Joe Allen, I know you got a bounce. You got a big meeting. Where do people go to keep up with you all the content? As soon as we hear about the executive order, we are going to promulgate that, sir?
Joe Allen
Yes, Steve, I'm at Joe B O T X Y Z on X and joebot xyz and also, Steve, if I can just say, you know, these kids, they, they definitely give a lot of inspiration. And all the people showing up to these data center sites and these town halls, nobody really wants this. People are not going to take it. But something that has to be remembered. This is a lifelong fight. These guys may be hated, but they definitely have the money on their side and they have a lot of levers of power at their disposal. So, you know, it's a lifelong fight. But I think there's every reason to keep going.
Steve Bannon
Joe Allen, great work. As soon as we hear about the executive order, I'll track you down after the show. Thank you, sir. Have you on tomorrow morning to talk about this has to be mandatory and has to have some sort of regulatory approval. So let's see what happens. Who's somebody going to take the somebody take the under on that? Do I hear it in the chat? Jordan Pace, S.C. sir, historic fight down there. Where do we stand right now?
Jordan Pace
We are closing in, Steve, on the, on the House side of this redistricting fight, we've dispensed with the more than 600amendments that the Democrats filed. We've got through those. We're closing in on the last speeches. We'll have vote on second reading probably within the next 30 minutes or so. Third readings tomorrow, it'll go to the Senate, and that's when the crunch time really, really gets crunchy and we'll have a rapid move through the Senate is the hope. So that's who we need people to call is their state senators. If they're watching South Carolina, get this done expeditiously.
Steve Bannon
No, we're putting that up just for the logistics because what you've done is magnificent there. The governor's on board. Just walk me through the process of when does it come out of the House and go to the Senate? Because we're trying to converge all the energy, that kind of inflection point.
Chip Roy
Right.
Jordan Pace
So the House will be essentially finished with it tonight. Second reading, third reading is basically perfunctory. It's a necessary there's no speeches, no debates, nothing. It's just a vote tomorrow. So the Senate will get it in their hands tomorrow. They have to have a couple of committee meetings to give it the due process, give folks time to interact with the maps and have their say. And we think it'll be on the floor of the Senate Senate this Friday and early voting would start well on every other race starts next Tuesday, the Tuesday after Memorial Day. So the Senate has got to get this done basically over the weekend for this to actually get into effect and be in place to give South Carolina a shot at having basically getting rid of Jim Clyburn and his 34 year old reign of terror over the 6th district in South Carolina.
Steve Bannon
One thing my understanding is that you don't need a two thirds vote. The way that you guys are structured this is this going to be a majority, is that correct in the Senate?
Jordan Pace
That's right. It's just a majority to pass the bill. The South Carolina Senate, though, has a million and one arcane rules about filibustering and sending people down. And there's a lot of tools in their toolbox to delay it. And it's a, it seems to be a bipartisan effort to delay it because they know just as well as we do that time is of the essence.
Steve Bannon
Burning daylight. Jordan, where do people follow you? You've been putting up some great stuff. Social media. Where do people follow you to stay up to date on all this?
Jordan Pace
Yeah, it's a Scott Pace is my handle on X at jscottpace. And then the South Carolina Freedom Caucus is trying to put stuff out as fast as we can on our socials, on Facebook and on X Instagram everywhere else. We're trying to keep folks updated as rapid fire as possible and we'll continue to do that as it, as it moves through the Senate.
Steve Bannon
You've been doing amazing job. Want to thank you sir. Appreciate you, appreciate it.
Jordan Pace
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Okay folks, get focused because got to get this. 70 in South Carolina, Jim Clyborne, they said the reign of terror down there very, very, very important. And only a center vote is standard between MAGA in the country in South Carolina and freedom. We'll get more on top of that again tomorrow. Give you the numbers, all of it. Mike Lindell, Jenny Story is going to join us in the second hour. What we're packed or in the story, but we're going to kick off with Jenny Story. We've got others coming on just absolutely. Garland, Favorito and George is going to join us. We're packed. Mike Lindell. Mike, you saw in Georgia when we left you this morning, they had a judge say, hey, you could have supervisors, you could have the Georgia election board right there in the bunker in Fulton county or in the metro Atlanta area. Now not so fast. They rescinded it already. Poor Sally Grub. And they've had nothing but problems Throughout Georgia all day. She's going down to Cobb County. But Fulton County's got problems. All of us got problems. Where do we stand with you, Mike Lindell?
Mike Lindell
It's so. It's so corrupt. You know, Brad Ratzenberger, you know he should be put in prison. Steve, I've said this for five years. This is unbelievable. This judge like an hour ago. I'm reading it right now. My team just reported it to me. You can't make this stuff up. It's like you're fighting the biggest mafia that ever was. And. But everybody keep fighting. Keep fighting and we keep moving on because there's only one truth. And that truth will be revealed. And Ratzenberger eventually will be right behind those melted down prison bars from those machines, as far as I'm concerned. Disgusting.
Steve Bannon
Steve, where did we stand with you, sir, to get you into to become the next governor of the great state?
Mike Lindell
Well, I got great news, everybody. There's a poll coming out tomorrow and I heard some preliminary numbers. So. So I'll announce that tomorrow, Steve, on the show. And they. But I am in first place. I can tell you that. We'll see by. I'll give you the numbers tomorrow.
Steve Bannon
Whose poll is it?
Mike Lindell
This is a poll that is.
Harmeet Dhillon
I forgot the name of it.
Mike Lindell
It's one of the. It was going to be Taffenburg or Ratzenberger, but it was another one that they work with. And this will be coming out tomorrow. I don't know that.
Harmeet Dhillon
I don't know the exact name of it.
Steve Bannon
It's not a poll of yours. It's an independent poll.
Mike Lindell
Yeah, yeah, independent poll. That's independent poll. This is a Nasha or this is. This is the poll of the people from Minnesota. Now, not just, not just some straw polls, everybody. This is the people's poll.
Steve Bannon
Okay? Talk to us about a deal. We'll talk about your polls in the morning. We're very interested in running for governor. We want you to win. We want one deals. When deals collide.
Mike Lindell
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Steve Bannon
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Date: May 19, 2026
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: John Solomon, Katie, Greg, Mark, Harmeet Dhillon, Alex DeGrasse, Chip Roy, Sally Grubbs, Joe Allen, Jordan Pace, Mike Lindell
This episode of The War Room PM Edition, hosted by Steve Bannon, provides a sweeping, high-energy commentary on major GOP political maneuverings, especially Donald Trump’s controversial endorsement of Ken Paxton over John Cornyn in Texas, the impact on broader Senate races, increased pressure on Senate GOP leadership, ongoing election integrity battles in Georgia, and a segment on public skepticism about the rapid encroachment of artificial intelligence into daily life. The panel combines original reporting, firsthand accounts, and in-the-weeds political analysis, sustaining a blunt, confrontational, and populist tone throughout.
| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------|----------------------------------------------|----------------| | Texas Senate Race, Trump Endorse | Analysis, panel reaction | 03:01–09:11 | | Leadership Feuds: Thune/Trump | Internal Senate politics | 09:11–13:01 | | Election Integrity: Georgia/CA | Voter fraud, legal battles | 11:46–15:37 | | Alex DeGrasse on Grassroots | Populist insurgency, Texas breakdown | 18:15–24:44 | | Chip Roy on AG Campaign | On-the-ground updates, Trump loyalty | 24:44–28:42 | | Sally Grubbs/Election Board | Georgia election board saga | 29:26–34:53 | | AI Executive Order, Gen Z Skeptic | AI pushback, commencement stories | 35:08–41:09 | | Jordan Pace, S.C. Redistricting | Defeating Clyburn, legislative process | 44:46–47:35 | | Mike Lindell Updates | Georgia politics/Gov race/Polls | 48:35–End |
This fast-moving, combative episode captures the tumult within the GOP as MAGA forces and Trump loyalists force upheaval in Senate races, while simultaneously battling election rules and the encroachment of technology on American life. The tone is urgent, populist, and adversarial, with a pronounced call to grassroots action, skepticism of both legacy institutions and emerging tech, and a deep emphasis on loyalty to the Trump agenda. The audience is encouraged to remain vigilant, get involved, and prepare for more political battles ahead.