Real America's Voice — "THE ROAD FORWARD" (Nov 23, 2025)

Host: Dr. Tim Clinton
Guests: Bishop Calvin Koberis, Dr. Rob Pacienza, Gary Bauer, Chaplain Bob Page
Theme: Thanksgiving, Faith in America, National Challenges, and Hope for the Future

Episode Overview

This special Thanksgiving edition of Real America's Voice takes listeners on a reflective and uplifting journey through the intersection of gratitude, faith, and pressing American issues. Host Dr. Tim Clinton brings together prominent Christian leaders — Bishop Calvin Koberis, Dr. Rob Pacienza, Gary Bauer, and Chaplain Bob Page — for in-depth conversations on division and unrest in the nation, the power of gratitude, the need for revival, and the enduring hope rooted in faith. This episode urges the audience to pause, give thanks, and focus on what unites Americans, while tackling tough current events.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Thanksgiving: National and Spiritual Significance

• Thanksgiving History Recap (06:54, 12:59):
  • Dr. Tim Clinton recalls the origins of Thanksgiving and its status as America's busiest travel week, highlighting its deep spiritual and national roots.
  • Quote: "Thanksgiving is the most busy travel holiday of the year... Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, into his courts with praise, and be thankful to him. Bless his name, for the Lord is good..." (Dr. Tim Clinton, 06:54)
• Encouragement to Slow Down:
  • Guests and host urge listeners to take the holiday as a chance for soul searching, reflection, and deep gratitude.

2. State of the Nation: Division, Challenges, and Exposés

• Open Borders and Child Welfare Operation (04:47, 10:01):
  • Discussion of ICE's new operation to check on nearly 500,000 children placed with unvetted sponsors, some exposed as traffickers or abusers.
  • "Every child rescued is a reminder of why we do this" (Citing Kash Patel, 04:47)
• Epstein Files and Political Fallout (04:47):
  • Commentary on Congressional efforts to declassify the Jeffrey Epstein files, with implications for major political figures.
• Violence and Social Unrest (11:48):
  • Noting increased assaults on ICE agents, anti-ICE protests, and what is viewed as the "raging left."
  • "The raging, violent left stuff... now we're watching it. It's unbelievable." (Dr. Tim Clinton, 11:48)
• Expose of Government Corruption (41:47):
  • Gary Bauer references declassified CIA/FBI reports tying former officials to the Russia investigation, expressing relief and caution.

3. The Power and Practice of Gratitude

• Personal and Spiritual Reflections (13:47 – 16:27):
  • Bishop Koberis shares a poignant story about his mother's illness, highlighting how peace and gratitude persist even in suffering.
  • "No matter the pain, the severity of the challenge, God is still good... be at peace as you reflect upon the goodness of God." (Bishop Koberis, 13:47)
• Science and Soul of Thankfulness (14:54, 15:40):
  • Dr. Clinton and Bishop Koberis discuss research on gratitude’s ability to reduce stress and increase well-being.
  • "It changes you. It changes your body chemistry. It relieves you of stress and anxiety and so much more." (Dr. Tim Clinton, 14:54)

4. Faith’s Role in America’s Future

• Revival and the Next Chapter (24:44 – 27:25):
  • Dr. Rob Pacienza expresses hope as younger generations return to church and pastors speak out, suggesting the end of the "secularism age."
  • "We are seeing the beginning of a movement... not through political strength, but crying out to Almighty God." (Dr. Rob Pacienza, 24:44)
  • He predicts a choice between "neo-paganism" or a resurgence of Christian worldview in public life.
• Faith over Fear (28:28):
  • Dr. Pacienza encourages listeners to turn to scripture and practice daily gratitude as a way to counter anxiety and fear from national crises.
  • "The answer to fear is the presence of God... the more we practice gratitude, the more our faith increases, the more our anxiety decreases." (Dr. Rob Pacienza, 28:28)

5. Religious Liberty and American Tradition

• Thanksgiving as a Christian Holiday (30:20):
  • Both Dr. Clinton and Dr. Pacienza assert that Thanksgiving is inherently about religious liberty and gratitude to God, not merely prosperity or abundance.
  • "This is not only an American holiday, it is a Christian holiday..." (Dr. Rob Pacienza, 30:20)
• Inspired by Founders (45:21):
  • Gary Bauer discusses the spiritual heritage from the Pilgrims, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and how seeking God’s blessing is essential for the nation's survival.
  • "The American experience... none of it's possible without God." (Gary Bauer, 45:21)

6. Overcoming Hardship: Stories of Faith and Service

• Military Service and the Meaning of Home (53:48 – 54:55):
  • Chaplain Bob Page shares from his decades of serving military heroes, the sacrifices made, and the comfort found in belonging and homecoming.
  • "Going with them and bringing to them a sense of purpose and calling... so that everyone can live safe and free..." (Chaplain Bob Page, 54:55)
• Coping with Tragedy and Writing for Hope (56:22 – 62:13):
  • Chaplain Page recounts the tragic loss of a young man, which inspired his book God is Still For You. He tells of the importance of hope built on God’s unchanging character.
  • "Even when life is confusing or bruising... you can know that God is for you." (Chaplain Bob Page, 56:22)
  • He cites the ultimate hope: "The ultimate way that we know God is for us is that he sent his son so that we could be forgiven and live free from the fear of death." (Chaplain Bob Page, 61:08)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On national revelations:
  "If there was any dirt on Donald Trump in the Epstein files, it would have been released by the Biden administration because they had the files for four years and they didn't release anything." — Gary Bauer, 04:47

• On American division:
  "There's a lot of division in the country. However, that is to be expected when you're trying to reveal the truth. And the devil is in the details." — Bishop Calvin Koberis, 09:35

• On gratitude in hard times:
  "No matter the pain, the severity of the challenge, God is still good. Right now, personally, my mother has dementia... but yet, because of her memory loss, she's at peace. Be at peace as you reflect upon the goodness of God." — Bishop Calvin Koberis, 13:47

• On faith’s future in America:
  "I actually believe that we're nearing the end of secularism... I'm hopeful... that it's Christianity and the Christian worldview that will rise to the top." — Dr. Rob Pacienza, 26:18

• On hope amidst loss:
  "Even when life is confusing or bruising, you can know that God is for you and he will work together with you through your greatest pain..." — Chaplain Bob Page, 56:22

• Founders’ faith:
  "They want to come to the new land to plant the cross of Christ and seek and find religious liberty." — Gary Bauer, 40:22

Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:37 – Episode theme and special guests introduced
• 04:47 – ICE welfare operation and Epstein files
• 09:35 – Bishop Koberis on national division and spiritual warfare
• 13:47 – Gratitude and personal suffering (Bishop Koberis)
• 24:44 – Dr. Rob Pacienza on revival and faith in America
• 28:28 – Gratitude as antidote to fear (Pacienza)
• 41:47 – Gary Bauer on CIA/FBI corruption, abuse of power
• 53:48 – Chaplain Bob Page on military service and meaning of home
• 56:22 – Tragedy and the genesis of God is Still For You
• 61:08 – Anchor of hope in Christ (Chaplain Page)

Closing Reflections

Dr. Tim Clinton concludes by urging listeners to actively practice gratitude this Thanksgiving, reciting key Psalms and encouraging the audience to "bring alive the thanks in Thanksgiving" even amid adversity, loss, or the turbulence of life.

“Make a list of five things. Take the time to pause and thank God for them every day. Watch how it begins to transform your Thanksgiving...” (Dr. Tim Clinton, 63:05)

For further connection and encouragement:

• Coral Ridge Ministries: CRM TV
• Chaplain Bob Page: bobpageauthor.com

"On your worst day... you're able to go back to that reservoir of memories and that reservoir of gratitude that you've been practicing and be reminded, no, it's a lie of the devil that God's against me if I'm in Christ, that God is for me on my best days, God is for me on my worst days." — Dr. Rob Pacienza (32:10)

A timely, hopeful episode for a nation in need of both truth and thanksgiving.