The Royce White Show - November 8th, 2025

Summary

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The Royce White Show – November 8, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Royce White
Date: November 8, 2025

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Overview of the Episode

This episode of The Royce White Show takes listeners into the thick of current political and cultural conflicts, focusing on the urgency and necessity of conservative and MAGA/“America First” political action. Building on comments from Steve Bannon and his own campaign experiences in Minnesota, Royce White examines why the conservative movement must "seize the institutions," the failures of Republican leadership, the dangers of ritualized intellectual debate, the Israel-Palestine divide within the movement, and the spiritual challenges underpinning America’s identity crisis. The episode is equal parts fiery populist sermon, campaign diary, and political treatise on what is at stake for conservatives leading into the 2026 midterms and 2028 presidential race.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Urgency to "Seize the Institutions"

• Steve Bannon's Warning ([03:10])
  • Bannon gives an impassioned plea: if conservatives do not act decisively now, "some in this room are going to prison, myself included" and "you're never gonna have another Trump."
  • Bannon calls for urgent, maximalist strategy: "We have to codify what President Trump has done by executive order."
• Royce White's Response ([05:19])
  • White echoes Bannon, explaining that convenience and complacency have eroded American citizenship: “Inconvenience, convenience, will be the death of freedom.”
  • The battle is existential: "I can’t guarantee that we win, but I can guarantee if we lose, some people will go to prison wrongfully, unjustly, and some people will die in the COVID of darkness. That is almost a certainty." ([08:40])

2. Debate Over Filibuster and Institutional Norms

• White addresses the strategic dilemma around the use or elimination of the filibuster:
  • If conservatives "nuke the filibuster" to pass their agenda, they risk undermining the institution permanently, but "all the easy answers are behind us" ([10:37]).
  • Critiques slow-walking and obstructionist tactics even by GOP establishment in Senate.
• Notable Quote:
  • “If we’re gonna nuke the filibuster and we’re saying we’re gonna go right now, then let’s go. If not, don’t even play around with it.” ([12:55])

3. Failure of Conservative Intellectual Leadership vs. Donor Class

• White distinguishes between the donor class (pro-globalism, pro-free trade) and intellectual leadership (arrogant, spiritually unmoored).
• Takes aim at those who treat politics as an academic debate:
  • “While they tried to win a debate that lacked the spiritual foundation...the Marxists and progressives took over the institutions. You lost the academic intellectual debate.” ([13:42])
• Charges both establishment and intellectuals with failing to defend Americanism against leftism and globalism.

4. Populist Energy vs. Establishment Republicanism

• White recounts the Minnesota GOP establishment's resistance to his candidacy, even after he secured the party's endorsement ([35:42]).
• Names party figures who undermined him: “Temple Empty. Rudy Boshowitz, Norm Coleman, Michelle Benson, Paul Gazelka, Kendall Qualls didn’t respect the endorsement. No, it wasn’t that. But I guarantee they will show up in May and say, endorse me...” ([36:12])
• Connects his experience to Trump’s: “It’s all the same things they said about President Trump...But the one thing you have to admit...for the first time in 35 years, a Republican presidential candidate opened up the doorway for new people to come into the party.”

5. Culture War, Citizenship and the Israel/Palestine Divide

• White addresses the deep splits within the GOP and MAGA movement over U.S. support for Israel:
  • “I'm no enemy to Israel. I've supported Israel on a number of occasions...but the side is: American citizens come first, our nation comes first, our citizens come first.” ([23:50])
  • Accuses some on the left of using the Israel issue to delegitimize America: “They’re only using the argument to say Israel is an illegitimate nation to make the same claim about America.”
• Criticizes weaponization of antisemitism accusations:
  • “The broad use of the word antisemitism in this country right now is absolutely despicable. It’s reprehensible, it’s dishonest.” ([27:00])
  • “It’s no more honest to say that every critique of black people is rooted in racism than it is to say every critique of...Israel is rooted in antisemitism.” ([54:48])

6. Urgency and "Game Clock" Metaphor

• Using sports analogies, White stresses the need for urgency:
  • “As an athlete...you're down 20 points. You have to recognize the urgency of the situation...a team that doesn't feel the sense of urgency is almost destined to lose.” ([19:32])
  • Connects lack of urgency in the GOP to job security—win or lose, the party insiders keep their influence.

7. Disaffection & Non-Participation Among Conservatives

• White raises alarm at low conservative turnout:
  • “In Minnesota, for example, 1.4 million Christians and conservatives of voter age did not vote in the 2024 election. You could take that for what it’s worth… [but] at a spiritual level, you, 1.4 million Christians and conservatives need to vote. You need to participate.” ([56:00])
• Encourages precinct-level engagement: “Go to caucus in February...Precinct strategy. It’s not rocket science.”

8. Religious and Spiritual Undercurrents

• Frames the struggle as fundamentally spiritual, not just political.
  • “I am the genuine article. I am that ultra MAGA Christo nationalist, Just right candidate. Not far right, just right.” ([57:51])
  • Calls out the hypocrisy of GOP donors who say “we have too many Christians in the party” and “poor people shouldn’t have kids. I believe in abortion in that sense. Poor people shouldn’t have kids. Are you kidding me?” ([56:47])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Steve Bannon:
  • “If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included. They're not going to stop. They are getting more and more and more radical, and we have to counter that.” ([03:10])
• Royce White:
  • “Inconvenience, convenience will be the death of freedom.” ([05:19])
  • “If we lose...some people will go to prison wrongfully, unjustly, and some people will die in the COVID of darkness. That is almost a certainty.” ([08:40])
  • “All the easy answers are behind us. Everything going forward is going to be tough...That’s our duty. That’s our sacred honor to deal with the tough choices.” ([10:51])
  • “America comes first. American citizens come first. It’s very simple. It’s not political astrophysics, no pun intended.” ([14:04])
  • “The intellectual thought leadership of the conservative movement’s problem has been [thinking] this is some exercise of highbrow intellectual debate...while the Marxists took over the institutions.” ([13:42])
  • “The Republican establishment in this country is just as dangerous as the Democrats.” ([45:09])
  • “We may even get deeper to the right, the just right. We’re not the far right, we’re just right.” ([42:42])
  • “Are you an American citizen? Do you believe in having a country? Do you believe that America should come first and American citizens should come first? That’s really all it boils down to. This isn’t difficult.” ([54:30])
  • “If you leave your territory to the demons, don’t be shocked when demons come out of it.” ([59:42])
  • “This may actually be the last chance we have to save this country and deal from reality. But the reality starts right here, inside the Wire.” ([62:00])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Bannon's Opening & Call to Action: 03:10–04:52
• Royce Responds: Seize the Institutions, Filibuster Debate: 05:19–15:08
• The Conservative Donor/Intellectual Divide: ~13:42–15:08
• Sports Urgency Metaphor and Movement Fractures: 19:32–31:25
• Israel-Palestine & Antisemitism Rhetoric: 23:50–32:25 and revisited at 51:33–54:48
• Minnesota GOP Establishment Critique: 35:42–41:05
• Voting Disaffection / Precinct Power: 56:00–57:50
• Closing Spiritual Mission: 57:51–62:00

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Tone & Style

• Broadly confrontational, populist, and urgent.
• Royce White blends campaign rhetoric with talk radio directness: “I know you don’t want to hear it. You don’t have to support me. Listen, I’m going to tell you the truth. You don’t have to listen.”
• Spiritual and patriotic undertones throughout: “That’s our duty. That’s our sacred honor...”
• Frequent use of rhetorical questions and direct audience address.
• No-nonsense, “smash-mouth” approach to political commentary.

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Final Takeaways

• Royce White and Steve Bannon both sound the alarm that the next few years are decisive for the conservative movement—loss means not just political defeat but catastrophic reversal of constitutional freedom.
• White sees the root problem as spiritual decay and elite hypocrisy, not just electoral tactics—calling for a return to principled, populist conservatism and mass participation.
• The Minnesota battle serves as a microcosm for national GOP struggles, illustrating entrenched resistance to the America First/MAGA surge.
• Political rifts over Israel and accusations of antisemitism are fracturing the conservative base. White warns against both leftist manipulations and the establishment’s refusal to prioritize American citizenship.

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For listeners seeking a rallying cry and a glimpse into the ideological battlefields of the modern conservative movement—from DC to the heartland—this episode is a must-listen.

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God is my witness, if we lose the midterms and we lose 20, 28, some in this room are going to prison, myself included. They're not going to stop. They are getting more and more and more radical, and we have to counter that. And what do we have to counter it with? We have to counter it with more action, more intense action, more urgency. We're burning daylight. If you look across every aspect of this, we have to codify what President Trump has done by executive order. Right? We have to codify it. And people say, well, they're just going to be messing with Bill campaign Senate. We got to, we've got to put aside these structural barriers and get on with it. President Trump today gave to the Senate when they came over for breakfast, even Lindsey Graham, some of the guys he liked, and some of these institutions. I understand this is a very tough decision to make. And you're going to see some people in the conservative movement that not in a million years, because I talked to him today, quite frankly. I had Hawley on the show this morning, Josh Hawley, and he's talking about it. I'm trying to play the institution. Well. Well, they called me up this afternoon and said, let's go through the 10 reasons we need to do it. And these are heavy hitters on what I would call the constitutional limited government constitutionalists in our movement. And they're about to come out over the next couple days and make this argument because they said, look, we have to understand that if we don't take this to the maximum, a maximalist strategy now with a sense of urgency. And in doing this, seize the institutions. If we don't do that now, we're gonna lose this chance forever. Cause you're never gonna have another Trump. Right?

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We will not give up a single right guaranteed out of the Constitution. You know, I'm always Gonna talk about the real things. Okay, free the Uyghurs. If I'm gonna die, I'll die now right here fighting you. Let me be a shield. Let me be what's wrong in this country is our sense of American citizenship is lost. It's lost. Inconvenience, convenience, will be the death of freedom. This is my show, and on my show, I control the conversation. Welcome back to the Royce White Show. I'm your host, Royce White, here in the belly of the beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters of the Ultra MAGA and America first movement. And you got to hear the words of the great Steve Bannon and take them as serious as you possibly can. I was on Real America's Voices morning show the other day, and I was asked a question about the filibuster. And it's an interesting question because I think fundamentally we have to consider two, two scenarios. In one scenario, we don't do what we have to do in order to keep, you know, the Senate and the house in 2026 and then go on to, God forbid, lose the presidency in 2028. And then the filibuster becomes essential. But if we're like Steve just alluded to and mentioned, if we're going to go pedal to the metal right now, full steam ahead, we have to make sure we win. And this is the, this is even more the brass tack and fundamental about what Steve is saying, just how important it is to win right now. If we're gonna crush our opponent, then let's just do it. We don't need a song and dance. We don't need a celebration. We don't need some build up pep rally. Let's just go. Let's just go. And it may in fact happen, and I'm in favor of it, and I'll talk about that in a moment. But you know, if we. The reason we have to win. And like I say in my intro for please call me crazy, and you should watch, last night I ran the debate between Phyllis Schlafly and William Buckley Jr. On the Panama Canal from so many years ago. And she really, when you listen to the debate, Phyllis Shafley is like the godmother of maga, really. I mean, she's just laying it out. And William Buckley, you know, William Buckley's having trouble keeping, keeping a lid on her. She's a firecracker, bright spot in the woman history of American politics. And this country that, you know, this, this country and, and the MAGA movement and where we are Today. But in my intro, I say, you know, if we don't, if, you know, I can't guarantee you we win, but I guarantee you if we lose, we will die. And I reiterate that here today, I can't guarantee that we win, but I can guarantee if we lose, some people will go to prison wrongfully, unjustly, and some people will die in the COVID of darkness. That is almost a certainty. Almost a certainty. So what makes it even important that we win even more so than that is if we lose and we strip some of the institutional, some of the legacy of the institutions as they were, we can never bring them back with credibility. Like the filibuster, for example. I mean, you know, it's kind of a dangerous game to play in some respects, but we're in dangerous times. So all the easy answers are behind us. All the easy questions, all the easy answers are behind us. Everything going forward is going to be tough. And that's what we chose. That's it. We have to be responsible for that. That's our duty. That's our sacred honor to deal with the tough choices of where we've brung, where we've, you know, brought this country to the place that we've brought this country to. But if we do it, you know, if we go, we can never bring back certain legacy institutions, or let's say they will. It will. They will be forever undermined in their integrity and in our credibility. So if we're gonna nuke the filibuster and we're saying we're gonna go right now, then let's go. If not, don't even play around with it. Don't play around with it because we may need the filibuster. And part of the reason why I'm running for United States Senate and part of what I think is valuable for politicians in general is to be able to filibuster, to be able to stand up there and allow the American people to see exactly who the rest of their elected representatives are, exactly who the people that represent them are, that's probably one of the most fundamentally important aspects of our American political system, in my opinion. But without fair elections, without all these other things that uphold the integrity of our nation, of our citizenship, of our rights, of our Constitution, without some of those other things, I have to agree with Steve and say that the filibuster is a fugazi, especially when you see how the Senate is using it now, or not using it, you know, or how. And let's say not using it because why would a majority Republican Senate, you know, need to. Need to filibuster much anyway? But not to say that when you have partisan control that a filibuster is impossible. But we're not happy with what this United States Senate is doing, even under the control of Republicans. Slow walking through President Trump's appointments, slow walking through the agenda, calling votes that are unnecessary. John Thune, you called an unnecessary vote on the tariffs. The tariffs are working. The tear. We know the tariffs work from history. You go back to Jackson. We know that the tariffs can have a positive impact on the economy. We know that. We know that. I'm in here in Minnesota, and for the first time, gas prices are down around, I don't know, 230, you know, low $2 range, which is a huge improvement from just six months ago. So, you know, I agree. And we need to seize the institutions. People have to understand this. And this is the problem. This has been this traditionally. This has been the problem with the intellectual thought leadership of the conservative movement. The problem with the intellectual thought leadership. And I'm not talking about the, you know, the donor class, the verticals that do lead into that, that intellectual thought leadership. The donors have a different motivation. The donor. The donor class, the Koch brothers and all these other guys, they have a different motivation. They see the world through a, you know, a free trade globalization framework. They just want to be in control of it. They want to be in power. That's not the way of things anymore. That's not the MAGA movement and the America first movement interpretation of, of where this country needs to go. We detest globalization. We detest how free trade has been manipulated. We detest H1B visas. We detest the idea of focusing on going to Mars before we secure our own borders or before we deport all the illegal immigrants that are here in our borders. We detest these things. American citizens first. It's very simple. It's not, it's not political, you know, astrophysics, no pun intended. It's not political astrophysics. It's basic. American citizens come first. America comes first. American citizens come first. It's very simple. But the donor class of the conservative movement and the intellectual thought leadership have two different problems going on. The donor class, they're ideologically bought into what is going to benefit them. Globalism works for them. That's why the neocon Rhino establishment often votes in favor of globalist policy. The, the intellectual thought leadership of the conservative movement's problem has been they, you know, they think this is some exercise of highbrow intellectual debate. And while they tried to win a debate that lacked the spiritual foundation, the moral foundation to have any true congruence, any, any, any real premium on, on, on not having contradiction while that took place, the Marxists and the rest of the, the, the progressives or the atheists or the Satanists in some respects took over the institutions. You lost the intellectual debate. You lost the academic intellectual debate. And part of the reason is because you were arrogant. There was an arrogance in it. And subtly, I do believe that that intellectual thought leadership echelon of the conservative movement took on a small portion of what the donor class's real motivation is. We're going to talk about, you know, that and some other things here as we consider what it means to have to seize the institutions. Seize the institutions because we see what they, we see what they did with them and we know what they'll do with them out of revenge. They're not shy about it. They're not hiding it. So we have to become comfortable with what you know, with what all of this means. You're watching the Royce White show here on Real America's Voice, headquarters of the ultra Magna America First Movement. I'm in the belly of the beast. Minneapolis, Minnesota. We'll be right back.

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Foreign welcome back to the Royce White Show. I'm your host, Royce White, here in the belly of the beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters of the Ultra MAGA and America first movement. Seize the institutions. This is no longer a highbrow political debate. I know everybody's having a lot of fun with it around the country because for the first time, everybody can be the star in their own movie. They have access to social media and then become, you know, a political sensation overnight in some cases. And we see it happening time and time again and we appreciate it. I love to see it. I love to see all the people waking up to the corruption, waking up to the, the way of the world, the, the real way of the world, the way that corruption runs our politics. I love to see it. I love all the people who are, are, you know, content creators and, and contributing to the political conversation. I love that more people are involved in the conversation. I love that more people are involved in the political dialogue. More people are participating in this country's political process. All of that's great. We have to realize we're late to the game. We have to realize that our enemies already have a head start on us and we have to be serious about that head start. It's like being in a basketball game. I liken it to being in a basketball game. A lot of, and some people would consider athletes, you know, somewhat crazy, but, you know, because of our, you know, our intensity, I think, and I think a lot of people even here in Minnesota, even in the Republican Party, they are very uncomfortable with my level of intensity. And we're going to show you a clip from a recent Minnesota Republican Party BPOU meeting or BPOU candidate forum, where I had to lay down some smash mouth populism. But as an athlete, let's say in a basketball game, you're down 20 points. You have to recognize the urgency of the situation. You have to change your pace in real time because that clock keeps ticking and the coach can only call so many timeouts. You have to be able to recognize the direness of the situation and change your momentum with enough Runway and enough time to actually win still. And a lot of, a lot of teams Lose games, you'll see it. You know, watch the NBA this year, which you know, is NBA rigged, is it not? You know, all of that will be, it's very, I'll say this, very hard to rig a game completely. Very easy to shave points. Let's leave it at that. It's not easy to fix the outcome of a, of a game in totality because there's just too many moving parts. But to cover a spread that can be done with some efficiency. But watch, watch the NBA. Take a, take a moment. Watch the NBA. I know, I know they're super woke. You know, pro China, pro lgbtq, pro vaccine, pro, you know, censorship in some sense. But watch a game so you can understand what I'm talking about. There are many teams that lose games. Usually when a team loses a game, it's because they didn't have the sense of urgency and didn't identify. They didn't properly identify when that sense of urgency needed to change. Now part of the problem with that in the NBA for example, or professional sports is they're getting paid a lot of money to do it and their pay is guaranteed. The pay is going to be the pay whether or not they win or lose. Apropos to our political situation, especially here in the Republican Party. Again, I'm going to show a clip in a moment in the next block of, of this candidate form. Part of the reason why they don't change their urgency quick enough is because the pay is going to be the pay whether they win or lose. The next reason is because the season is so long, people get this sense that there's going to be time to fix things, that it's going to be a long season. And it is, I mean a seven month season in the NBA is super long. And I don't mean to make it about basketball, but my point is if you've ever participated in sports, if you've ever participated in team sports, you, you know that a team that isn't, doesn't feel the sense of urgency, is almost destined to lose. It's only by sheer luck that they win. That's what Steve is saying. We have to seize the institutions. We know who our opponent is, we know what our enemy will do. We know what they've done, we know what they're capable of. We know what they are sure to do if we don't win. If we don't take this moment to apply a maximalist strategy, we have to go full blown MAGA now. It can't be a highbrow intellectual debate anymore. They lost the debate. A man can't become a woman. They lost the debate. We're undermining the debate. And I'll say it again. The fact that the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the MAGA movement, the America first movement, is coming back down to an argument about Israel, hey, I get it. The MAGA movement and the conservative movement, the Republican Party, American citizenship and our political framework should be rooted in our view of foreign policy, because the inception of this nation was rooted in a view about foreign policy and foreign relations in some sense. So I get it. It's an argument that needs to happen. I hate to see that it's fracturing the movement. I hate to see that it's fracturing the party, but sure as the sun will rise, it. It is. I'm experiencing. I'm on, I'm out on the trail. I can tell you firsthand, this Israel conversation is splitting the movement. And look, Laura Loomer's right in some regards and saying, you know, this could be the reason that we lose Tucker Carlson's right in some regards, saying, hey, we still have to talk about it. We still have to address it, because it is fundamental and it is a fundamental. And it makes me sick. You guys have watched me on the show. I'm no enemy to Israel. I've supported Israel on a number of. A number of occasions. And I feel comfortable doing it and still saying, I am 100% ultra MAGA and America first. Any day of the week, I would discuss the history of Israel, our current relationship with Israel, or any other, you know, question regarding this with a person like Tucker or Nick Fuentes, no problem. I have no hesitation to do that at all. People tend to not want to talk about any of these issues with me because they know I'm airtight and I'm not really on a side. There is no side. The side is American citizens come first, our nation comes first, our citizens come first. That's the side. For example, you know, the people, I do believe I said this on my podcast the other day. I do believe the people who try to say Israel is an illegitimate nation are doing so to make the same claim about America. Some of these leftists like Mamdani who wave their Palestinian flags have no real interest in the Palestinian people. They have no real remorse for the Palestinian people or real remorse for the tragedy and the loss of life that comes with war. They're willing to get us into a war when it's advantageous for them, when it fits their political agenda, when it doesn't. Then all of a sudden war is bad. The Ukraine is a perfect example. They had no problem, they had no problem walking Ukraine and the rest of the European Union into a full blown kinetic conflict with Russia. When it's Israel and Palestine, all of a sudden, oh, we feel bad for the Palestinians. What about the Ukrainian women and children? You feel bad for them. You feel bad enough, you know, for them to, to try and stop that war? Or is our bloodlust in our, you know, ancient rivalry from the Commonwealth with Russia worth as many lives, as many lives as we need? So you see the contradiction. But, but my, my contingency is that a lot of those people on the left don't care about the Palestinians whatsoever. They're only using the argument to say Israel is an illegitimate nation to make the same claim about America. And you can see the intellectual, you know, you can see the intellectual thread plain as day. It's not by accident that the progressives and left would make an argument that any nation built upon stolen land or conquered land is an illegitimate nation. That would essentially mean that almost all nations are illegitimate in some sense. So we can deduce why an Alex Soros and George Soros are in favor of Imam Donnie, regardless of this, this third tier argument about whether or not Israel or the Palestinians are right in that conflict. The fourth tier, the next tier, is an open society with no borders. If a nation is built upon stolen land, then it is by default an illegitimate nation. We're not going to let you say it about Israel. We're not going to let you say it about America. Israel is a legitimate nation. They want a war for their territory. With that being said, the use, the broad use of the word anti Semitism in this country right now is absolutely despicable. It's reprehensible, it's dishonest. It lacks righteousness, it lacks sacred honor. You can love Israel, you can love the Jews. You can, you can support who you want. That's, that's part of your right as an American citizen. Hell, you can donate to whatever causes you want. That's another part of your right as an American citizen. But you do not have the spiritual, you do not have the, the spiritual green light to play fast and loose with terminology that has great political significance and weight without being challenged on it. You don't have that right. That right you don't have. You can try it. But, but sure as the sun will rise, American citizens, blue blooded American citizens will challenge you. I see. Oh, there's a sharper. Every Fox News every morning, it's obnoxious every week. The rjc. That RJC event was was abhorrent. Floyd Money Mayweather I mean, give me a break. Give me a break. And then the RJC says that I'm anti semitic because I made the claim that Israel is an ethno national country. It's an ethno national country. You can't just go live in Israel if you want. That's why Glenn Beck is on his show a year or so back begging the Israeli High Council for dual citizenship. I don't even know if he was begging for dual citizenship. He may have just been asking for Israeli citizenship, which is ridiculous. And I like Glenn Beck. I think he has a great beat on things. But no American citizen should be asking any other country for citizenship under any circumstances whatsoever. You don't understand the fundamental value of citizenship. There's a rise in anti Semitism. Well, if you want to broaden the definition to anywhere or anybody you need it to be to fit your political agenda, of course there's going to be a rise in anti Semitism. You change the definition. 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Hey, listen, it gets deep. I was endorsed, and there were six people in the Republican Party who still endorsed my opponent in the primary. Here we go. Name names. Can I name names?

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No. Oh, no, no, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Wait. What now? We can't name names. Transparent history. Let it go. Nah, we're not letting it go. Six names. Six names. The same names that say the MA is a problem. Six names. Temple Empty. Rudy Boshowitz, Norm Coleman, Michelle Benson, Paul Gazelka, Kendall Qualls didn't respect the endorsement. No, it wasn't that. But I guarantee they will show up in May and say, endorse me. They will say, endorse me. I may run for governor next time. We'll see. If Tom tells you to run, brother. They wouldn't endorse me even after the delegates and the officers of this party made a decision. And the problem in our party is rules for me and not for thee. That's very Democrat. And liberals and I know we don't like this confrontation. Well, Royce was a bad candidate. Royce has too much baggage. Royce has legal problems. You know, Royce owes child support. It's like it's all the same things they said about President Trump, Stormy Daniels, he's got people suing him. He said, grab him by the in the locker room thing. And it's all the same thing. But the one thing you have to admit, and we talk political strategy, the one thing you all have to admit, this is not really debatable, is that for the first time in 35 years, I'm 34, born in 91. For the first time in 35 years, a Republican presidential candidate opened up the doorway for new people to come into the party. That's a fundamental fact. So you can say he's as bad of a candidate as you want. And you can say I'm as bad of a candidate as you want. But the funny thing is, some of those Somali Republicans that live down there in Minneapolis, they voted for me. How do you explain that? I got more votes than almost any other Senate candidate in the history of the Minnesota Republican Party. And none of our four Congress members would support me. 36.8 because new people voted for me. That's why new people voted for me. New people said, know what? We know what. We may not agree on everything, but there are some people we can count on to tell us what they really think, tell us like it is. And there are some people who come from in the machine. And there is a machine. And if anybody tells you that there's not a machine with special interests and lobbies and the McMillans and the Cargills and the Dave Frewenshaws and the rest of the lobbyists from right here, Minnesota, that run your state, and the Tom embers who get $10 million a quarter but never donate a single dime to push Republican Party in the cities. I lived in the state, I lived in the twin cities for 31 years and I never saw one Republican representative here. Never once did I see a Republican Party officer in the Twin Cities. And you wonder why your capital has been left to Marxist. Because you left to the suburbs and you left people in charge who were too afraid to go where you wouldn't go. That's why they don't like me. That's why they're afraid of me. That's why they want to stop me from talking. Because they know I'll go where they won't go. I'll go push. I'll go to Cedar Riverside. I've been to Cedar Riverside. I'll go to north Minneapolis. I'll go to St. Paul. I'll go to places that they, that they raise money. They say, oh, look how bad the cities are. Of course they're bad. Of course the cities are bad. They've been raised by Marxist educators for 35 years. The only way we change it is if we can go there. The only way we change it is if we're willing to go. If you're not willing to go, fine. Show up here all you want to, but the reality is nothing will change. You do the same thing, you'll get the same results. Tim Pawlenty, Tom Emmer and the rest of this Republican establishment has had control of this state for 35 plus years. And that's why this state is in the condition it's in right and it's not only one second, and it's a microcosm of the country. I know you don't want to hear it. I know you don't want to hear. You don't have to. To support me. Listen, I'm going to tell you the truth. You don't have to listen. It's a microcosm of the country. It's a microcosm of the country. The conservatives have had the House and the Senate the same amount of times as Democrats, the same amount of time. Your leadership has sold you out. They lie to you. They asked for your endorsement, and they deny the endorsement. Endorsement when they don't. That's the truth.

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Welcome back to the Royce White Show. That was a clip from Republican Party, Minnesota Republican Party candidate forum in Dundas last week. You know, you gotta say it. You have to say it sometimes. And I can't in good conscience sit there on this campaign trail of 2020 leading up to the midterms in 2026, and, and see Kendall Quals, who everybody likes, you know, because he fits the, you know, he fits the prototype. We love these prototypes. I don't fit the prototype and I like it. And by God, please do not let me be elected or supported for superficial reasons. If you want to support me, it's because, you know, I understand the fundamentals, you know, what my policy is. And in my, the spiritual position of my policy, I mean, it's on a spiritual level, fundamental level. I truly, that's why President Trump can endorse me or not. I'm still going to support him. It's, it's not a pay to play thing for me. I support President Trump because I understand the value of citizenship and I understand what it means for a man to risk his life when he doesn't have to to save the country for everybody else. That's why I support him. It's not contingent upon what he does for me or what the MAGA movement does for me. So it's very hard for me to sit there with people who I know for a fact do not fundamentally support the Mag In America first movement. Yet they, they bring up President Trump's name. They pretend like they, like they support them. They pretend like they're happy about the things that are happening, but their donors, the verticals, they, they, they detest them, they despise them. And I'm giving you the example right there. In 2024, the Minnesota Republican Party went full blown MAGA for the first time in recent memory. And that scares the hell out of the establishment, not only here in Minnesota, but across the country. We seem we see the same fear here in the Minnesota Republican establishment that we see across the rest of the country. This MAGA movement may be here to stay. And even more scary for them is the America first movement may be the next iteration. We may even get deeper to the right, the just right. We're not the far right, we're just right. We may be even going further to the right and that scares these Trotskyite neoconservatives. In 2024, for the first time, the Minnesota Republican Party went full blown maga. I won an endorsement against the establishment and then I went on to win a primary against the establishment. After I won the endorsement, the entire party, the entire party establishment had this freak out or what can we do? Who can we call? Who can we go find to help Joe Schmo Frazier get across the finish line with his Ukraine first warmonger mentality? Who can we call? Let's call Tim Pawlenty. Let's call Norm Coleman, Rudy Boshowitz, Michelle Benson, Paul Gazelka and Kendall Quals. They all endorsed my opponent in the primary. Even after the delegates of this Minnesota Republican Party made their decision clear. They undermined mind. And what they said is the rules are for thee and not for me. And that's how the elites work in this country on both sides of the aisle. It's disgusting. It's despicable. It makes me want to spit on the floor. I think the way I went about it is nice because I want to spit at their feet because that's how serious it is and that's what Steve is saying. This is no longer some pleasant game. This is no longer a Mr. Nice Guy. Let's win an intellectual highbrow debate about the nuances of history and policy and all. We know who these people are. But just as much as I know who the progressives and the leftists are in this state, who the Tim Waltz is at the Ilhan Omars are, just as much as I know who they are, I know who Tom Emmer is. And it doesn't much matter to me what the President says about it because I'm here watching him. I'm watching him and I'm watching his people. For example, when the President of the United States says we have to go to same day paper ballots to have a country fundamental, it's not a casual thing. The integrity of our elections isn't some casual opinion. It's not an 8020 issue. It's the whole issue Keep the main thing, the main thing, are our elections secure or not? We need to go to same day paper ballots with identification. You say a black person can't get ID spit at your feet. Of course we can. Of course we can get identification. Same day paper ballots with identification. So why are there all these Republicans and Scott Presser, God bless him, he's, he's in, you know, he's trying to get people involved, which is, which is the right thing to do. But, but what is the message on the integrity of elections? Are we doing same day paper ballots or the Minnesota Republican establishment going to continue to go on with the chase the ballot early voting? You can't have it both ways. You can't have it both ways. I'm not going to sit there and listen to Kendall Quals put on this MAGA Persona when I know that his donors don't really support President Trump at all. They'll use him. They'll ride the wave and the momentum, but they don't really support the ideas. They don't really support the ideas. And their condemnation of me as a candidate is a microcosm and it's a proxy for their condemnation of the President. Let's talk about Stormy Daniels. Let's talk about how he can never win with suburban white women. And he won and they still don't accept it. That's why what's going on in the United States Senate with the Republicans in power is what's going on and the President has to fight it every single day. So I give him some grace and some leniency with how he has to navigate that. 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Welcome back to the Royce White Show. I'm your host, Royce White, here in the Belly of the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. And I know, I know it's a lot for Saturday mornings. We're going to get to a daily show. At some point in time, you know, Real America's Voice and I are going to figure out the, the perfect time slot to have a daily show. And that way we can spread around some of this holiday cheer here before the Thanksgiving and Christmas season. But it has to be said, a lot of people think, oh, Steve, you're an alarmist, Steve. Steve Bannon's an alarmist. You know, he's fear mongering. It's not fear mongering. It's not fear mongering. When a transgender jihadist, a transgender jihadist walks up to a Catholic school, church and opens fire on little children, it's not. It's not alarmism, it's realism. We have to crush these people. And I don't mean kill them, I don't mean physically harm them, but I do mean use the levers of power, seize the institutions. We know exactly what's going on. We can see it plain as day. The constitutional crisis is afoot. And the ultimate question here, and people don't even want to go there because they're scared of the implications. They're scared of the answer. Especially in the conservative movement, we're afraid of the answer. We're afraid of what? Asking the question will, will, you know, Will will give us. Where does the military fall on this whole deal? All across the country, they just put another guy up. His name is Patrick. I don't know. I don't even know his last name. Patrick something. I don't. I should know his name. I don't. Because when I look at him, it's all this. They, they go and find an ex Marine, an ex Navy guy, ex CIA, ex State Department, ex, ex veteran. Oh, it's the same motif. Every single Time. And they believe that if they can find a military guy who will say all the right things, who has a squeaky clean background or a background they can, you know, that they can, that they can clean and he says he believes in God, then you'll, you'll follow him, you'll support him. It's the motif until you get the Dan Crenshaws of the world. And the Dan Crenshaws of the world are absolutely ridiculous. They're absolutely ridiculous. They lie and they use the valor. They use their sacrifice really to besmirch the rest of the veterans in this country, many of which don't agree with this, this global dollar empire play police all around the world, foreign policy, many of which, like Tulsi Gabbard, like Pete, in some respects they don't believe in that philosophy. Are we willing to break ranks with those who push that in this party? It's another guy and he's came out of nowhere. Now he's running for governor and fine, as many candidates as you want. Doesn't bother me in the U.S. senate race because we know the MAGA movement is out front. We know the MAGA movement has taken the Minnesota Republican Party by storm. And the America first movement is right there to, to back it up. American citizens come first. America comes first. American citizens come first. That's it. Bottom line, full stop. It's not difficult. It's not political astrophysics. It's not the laws of thermonuclear dynamics. It's pretty basic. American citizens come first. And the backtrack to this, this entire thing about, about, you know, Israel. I hate to see it. I hate to see it. I've been, I think I've been one of the most even, you know, even handed people on the entire topic. And I'm not doing it to try and, you know, be lukewarm. I can just talk about it the way it really is. Yeah, there's anti Semitism, yeah, there's racism. But it's no more. It's no more. It's no more honest to say that every critique of black people is rooted in racism than it is to say every critique of, of, of Jewish people or Israel is rooted in anti Semitism. Both things are equally ridiculous. We can have a conversation about black people in this country and black communities, and we should. That doesn't make people racist. We can have a conversation about the Jewish lobby or AIPAC or the RJC or Israel in this country. That doesn't make people anti Semitic or Jew haters. And the fact that you would even try that is so intellectually dishonest. Your moral integrity comes into clear question Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, whoever else. Your moral integrity is on full display when you make the claim. Any criticism whatsoever of Jewish people, of the Jewish lobby, of the Jewish community of Israel is somehow automatically rooted in anti Semitism and Jew hatred. Absolutely not. The only other man I've let sit in this chair to host this show, which is one of the highlights of my young life. One of my favorite things to do is this Saturday morning show. The only other man I've ever let sit in his chair and host my show the way he wants to, without any notes, without any this is what you should talk about. Do whatever you want is a Ukrainian Jewish man. But he just so happens to believe in Christ. So take that for what it is. But if it was Jew hatred, then I would hate Jews no matter what. I would hate them whether they believed in in Christ or not. And I don't care whether a Jewish person believes in Christ or not. And honestly, as far as where we are right now today, I don't much care whether you believe in Christ or not. I know where I'm at. I know I believe in Christ. I know I'm a Christian. And I can advocate for Christianity on behalf of your spirit and really on behalf of your life, because I do think the Bible is a document that helps people's lives in great respect. But I don't much care. Are you an American citizen? Do you believe in having a country? Do you believe that America should come first and American citizens should come first? That's really all it boils down to. This isn't difficult. And if you want to play this game where you expand the definition of antisemitism the same way that the lunatic left expanded the definition of science and spirit to fit their transgender psyop, then you go right on with them. Let's get ready. Here's the thing. In Minnesota, for example, 1.4 million Christians and conservatives of voter age did not vote in the 2024 election. You could take that for what it's worth. Are they voting and being miscounted? Are they voting and having their votes changed, or did they really not vote at all? All three. Tell us a story. Maybe there's a combination of the 3.1.4 million Christians and conservatives in the state of Minnesota did not vote in 2024. That is crazy. But you know what? I don't. I don't condone it, but I understand it. I understand when people are fed up and discontent with the, with the political process. They don't believe that it actually matters because look at how we've allowed this country to be run. Money runs this country. We've allowed that. That's a problem. If we don't, if we don't rectify that, then we undermine the process, our political process fundamentally. At a spiritual level, you, 1.4 million Christians and conservatives need to vote. You need to participate. Go into your caucus, go to caucus in February. You don't like your Republican candidates, you get your butt to caucus so you can have a say in who the candidates are. Precinct strategy. It's not rocket science. But at the same time, at the same time, when I watch a Republican establishment in their vertical donors talk about how we have too many Christians in this party, on the record, bunch of donors, Minnesota elite business people who say they're conservative. We have too many Christians in the party. And, and, oh, by the way, I believe in abortion. I think poor people shouldn't have children. Ask Professor Penn about it. I'll have him on next weekend. He'll tell you. He's in that business elite class in the state. He was there at the, at the, at the fundraiser. He can tell you who the person is. Specifically. We're going to start naming names. Minnesota elite business conservative donors. Too many Christians in the party. And I don't think poor people should be having kids. I believe in abortion in that sense. Poor people shouldn't have kids. Are you kidding me? So, so when I, when I come across that, it becomes clear that on a spiritual level there are Christians out there in that 1.4 million who say these people are not who they say they are. Well, I am. I am who I say I am. I am the genuine article. I am that, that ultra maga Christo nationalist, Just right candidate. Not far right, just right. I'm that guy and I'll hold the line. But you got to participate. And the thing you got to understand is it's going to be uncomfortable because along the way, I'm going to have to call these people out for the next 12 months, until election day and beyond. I'm going to have to call these people out at the events, at the forums, at the conventions. I'm going to have to call these people out and they're not going to like it. It's going to ruin us a couple of weekends. But it has to be done. It has to be done. Hell, I'll trade some of these crystal nationalists they're all worried about, and let's get some of these people down there in the Twin Cities who also don't feel any connection with the Republican Party. Like I said, I grew up in the twin cities. For 35 years I've lived in the Twin Cities and not once have I seen any Republican representation. If you leave, if you leave your territory to the demons, don't be shocked when demons come out of it. When demons manifest, demons have to be challenged. They have to be rebuked and refuted. They have to be vanquished in some cases. And that's what Steve Bannon saying about seizing the institutions. We know who these people are. We know what their motivation is. They can, they can pretend like there's some intellectual highbrow debate. There's no debate. If you think a man can become a woman, there's no debate. The debate is over. And if you think our foreign policy in our, in our national, our domestic policy is, is going to be based on this type of non reality, you got another thing coming. I hope the administration and the rest of the, the, the people there in D.C. understand the seriousness and gravity of this situation. Seize the institutions. This may actually be the last chance we had. We all celebrated that President Trump won, but between now in the midterms and 2028, this may actually be the last chance we have to save this country and deal from reality. But the reality starts right here, inside the Wire. It's been another episode of the Royce White Show. I appreciate your viewership and listenership today and in the future. War Room with the great Steve Bannon is next. God bless you. Godspeed, God bless America. God bless President Trump. We'll see you next weekend. Thank you.

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