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Trita Parsi
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that. But you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Trita Parsi
MAGA Media I wish in my soul,
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Stephen K. Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Sunday 12th April, year of roller 2026. President of the United States. Been talking to Maria Bartiroma. We're going to pull some of that in a moment. Huge news overnight. Not just that we walked away from the negotiating table. First senior level meeting between the United States and the Iranian government in 47 years. Took about 15, 20 hours. It appears, I think, that there were no modified group of 10 points. Looks like the Iranians dug in on the points they had and were up in our grill, I would say. And now we've gone to a naval blockade. We'll get to all that. I want to thank our sponsors. Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon. Talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Do it this weekend. Get up to speed on what's going on because the end of the dollar empire may be upon us. Ain't going to happen overnight. But what does it mean for you and your family's financial stability? And what does it mean as gold, physical gold as a hedge against times of financial turbulence? Also, Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot call right now. Talk to someone with an East Texas accent about what it means to shift switch over to the best phone service out there. And you tell me you're from the War on Posse, you get a free month. Okay? Free month. Trina Parsi, your assessment you I think you're coming on the show has been pretty fruitful in the fact that I think it's given an audience a broader understanding of our enemy because I think that it played out pretty much as we thought it would play out in Islamabad. Sir.
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Trita Parsi
Thank you for having me on, Bannon. And I very much appreciate your conversation with Sam Ferris. Early on and much respect his analysis. And I watched him on your show. I do have a different perspective on what will make things work at this point. But I think what we saw here, if the story is true, if what JD Said is that the US Went there and insisted on zero enrichment, then we should absolutely not be surprised that this didn't go anywhere. We should be surprised that that was the US Strategy because zero enrichment was not Trump's red line. It was Israel's red line. Trump shifted the goalpost to adopt the Israeli red line. That's why we ended up having the war last summer, and that's why talks back then collapsed. Had he stuck to his original red line, which was no nuclear weapons, which is very different from zero enrichment, we would have had a deal by now. So if it turns out that that actually was the US Position in these talks, then it raises questions about the sincerity of this entire operation or whether halfway through those talks, apparently there was a conversation with Netanyahu that the US Delegation once again shifted its goalpost to adopt what the Israelis had put forward. If that is the case, then we shouldn't be surprised at all. However, I think we should also keep in mind that we don't know more than 5% of the real story here. There may be a lot of other things going on and it may very well be so that mindful of the fact that we do have another nine days left of these negotiations, everything we're seeing right now is a negotiating tactic, including the threat of closing or doing a naval blockade on Iran, including walking back from the table right now, and that there may be another round coming up in which both sides have the first round assessed each other's strengths and then the next round, Iran will act on that assessment. And perhaps there still is a way out. My bottom line, though is still I don't think there's going to. The likelihood of a deal is low, but the likelihood of a return to war I don't see as particularly high either. Rather, both sides will pull back. They will control certain things. But I don't see Trump going back into a full scale war with you on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You said this before, you think that and you've been pretty adamant. You didn't even see us getting a deal now, but certainly no signed instrument. You know, Mark Levin's out there, wants us to read the Potsdam Accord and then the surrender document for the Japanese as a framework for tactical nuclear weapons. You kept saying, hey, look, this is not going to be like Japan in 1945. You're not going to be on the. You're not going to be on the USS Bush with the Iranian signing and surrender document. Do you still think is that what you see is that somehow there will be some accommodation of what's going on in this and that it will just kind of drift on?
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Trita Parsi
Sir, if you want escalation, you should push for surrender. So when Mark Levine is pushing for surrender, it's precisely because I think he understands that will ensure that this issue does not get resolved and we get more and more war, which is exactly what he and the Israelis actually are looking for. So I'm not surprised to see that someone like him would be pushing for that. The whole issue about a naval blockade I'm very skeptical about as well. I mean, look what would happen. First of all, the US Already has frozen all of Iran's funds in foreign banks, about 100 to $120 billion that the Iranians have not had access to for several years at this point. This happened on the Trump one. There's no more money out there to freeze. Essentially, the Iranians have shifted over, increasingly using the Chinese currency or using crypto because they can't use the dollar. Secondly, if there is an actual blockade, the United States would have to then take tankers that are no longer Iranian in the sense that the oil on those tankers will have been bought by China or some other state. That's a conflict with China. This is something the US has not done yet for a very good reason. So that's not a targeting of the Iranians, it's a targeting of the Chinese or whoever else is buying it. The same is true if it goes for any of the countries that have now negotiated some sort of a toll fee with the Iranians, which is Turkey, which is China, which is India, which is Pakistan, the very same country that hosted these talks right now. Moreover, that escalation will likely be countered by the Iranians by having the Houthis close the Strait of Aden as well. And then you have a Red Sea problem in addition to the Persian Gulf problem. There's a reason why this is not going to work, because we don't have an escalatory path out of this war. I've said this on this show several times. That's why I was happy to see that there were negotiations. But negotiations need to be coupled with reasonable and realistic negotiating positions. Again, if it is true that the full story is that we went there with a zero enrichment demand, that's not a sincere and serious negotiating position, nor would it have led to serious negotiations.
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Stephen K. Bannon
One of the reasons I like the naval blockade. I mean, my theory of the case is that going to Pakistan, Islamabad and even dealing with the theocratic regime and the Revolutionary Guard, you're dealing with intermediaries, the people that fund them and are getting them weap are the Chinese Communist Party. And President Trump ought to be principal to principal in Beijing in the middle of May. A great way to do that is to blockade it and stop all the oil going to the Chinese Communist Party. You have to get somebody's attention, right? You've already bombed for 38 days or 39 days, bombed the regime. And I said the solution to this problem is not under the rubble in Tehran. Right. So do you believe that forcing this using as a forcing function to talk about the principal sponsor of Iran, the Chinese Communist Party, will lead to any benefit?
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Trita Parsi
Sophia, I don't think the Chinese are the principal sponsor of the Iranians. They are the main trading partner, but they're the main trading partner of a lot of different countries without being able to sell their oil to China. That will be a huge blow to the Iranians, but it will also be a huge blow to the Chinese. And there's a reason why in all of the previous efforts to prevent Iranian oil from being sold, ultimately the US did not stop oil sales to China because that would have led to a direct confrontation with the Chinese. I don't think we're ready for that. I don't think that would be fruitful. I don't think there will be a meeting in May in Beijing with Trump going there. If we take this path now, is it valuable to perhaps try to do something to put pressure on the Chinese for them to put pressure on Iran? That logic I understand, and I think there could be value in it. But I don't see the Chinese playing ball if they see that the US Is adopting a position of demanding Iran's surrender and capitulation, which is what zero enrichment entails, because that's a losing proposition for the Chinese in that scenario. They will more likely just counter that pressure on the US Itself instead of putting pressure on the Iranians.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Trito, you've been pretty good about forecasting the regime's mindset about where we go from here. They had and Eric Bolling read it, they had to have it prepared in advance. But when the vice president advance went to the sticks and then left the most brutal part of all the communique was from the Revolutionary Guard, which really disparaged the Americans, the military, US As a people, everything we stand for, and said, hey, bring it where do you think this heads from here?
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Trita Parsi
I mean, this is both sides are doing brinkmanship at this point, right? For JD to go and give that press conference very, very. And essentially put all of the effort or the explanation on the nuclear issue and saying that the Iranians have not done anything that would guarantee that they're not building nuclear weapons and saying that it's not just about building nuclear weapons, it's about having the capacity that's in reference to zero enrichment. That is seen by the Iranians as brinkmanship. And what we have seen in the, you know, the way that the Tehran government reacts, it's actually not that complicated. Complicated. It's just tit for tat. We do brinkmanship, they do brinkmanship. So when in the jcpoa, when the US Started offering concessions, the Iranians started offering concessions, sometimes people in Washington look at Tehran and think that there's some sort of a superiorly difficult enigma on how to explain how they're calculating. It's actually profoundly simple. It's just tit for tat. Any kid could figure it out. And if we're doing brinkmanship, they're going to do the same thing. Now, again, I want to say I wouldn't be shocked in a week or so there is another round. I'm not saying it's likely, but I'm saying I wouldn't be shocked because neither side, despite of the brinkmanship, have said that diplomacy is completely over. Neither side have explicitly said we are not going to meet again.
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Stephen K. Bannon
As you said, there's still, I think 10 days ago in this ceasefire. Trita, I want to thank you so much for joining us, taking time away. We know you have big demands now in the media. Where do people go? Particularly your social media feed, which I think is very enlightening.
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Trita Parsi
Thank you, Steve. So they should go to tparcy on X, Orida Parsi on substack or go to the Quincy Institute's website, quincyinst.org
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Stephen K. Bannon
thank you, Trita. Appreciate you taking time.
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Trita Parsi
Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Eric Bolling, your thoughts? I know you got a bolt. Your closing thoughts until we get some trading later in the evening this day in the United States and we'll have you back on tomorrow. Your thoughts?
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Eric Bolling
Yeah, I'll hit you up, Steve, when oil opens up around 6 Eastern here, one final thought. In the last maybe two hours or so, the Saudis announced that they've reopened that east west pipeline. Seven million barrels a day will flow through that. Here's my thoughts, Steve. My final thought is, look, I Don't know that. I agree with. Treat is a brilliant. He's doing great analysis. But I'm not sure that the intent was to have a naval blockade and then confiscate the oil on the vessels, maybe just block it from getting through. China shouldn't have an issue with us because of that. They should work their other issues out with Iran in mining the strain, keeping it impassable. I will tell you that there's the option of the Saudis increasing that pipeline from a 7 million to maybe a 10 million and maybe some of the other Middle Eastern countries building into the pipeline. It may take a little while, but look what that does. It removes the Strait of Hormuz as the bargaining chip for the fanatical Iranian government. If they don't have that one choke point, they have nothing. Steve, they have an oil production that they're going to have to sell somewhere to keep their economy afloat. They can't sell it if they can't ship it, they can't stay afloat and you starve them to death. I'm not sure if it's Trita or Pattis that said it, but that's the way out. And it probably is. Go around the Strait of Hormuz. And the only way to do that is shipping it very expensively around the globe. Or build some pipelines and maybe we help our allies in the region build those pipelines for cost, for a price. Our oil companies will get some work out of it as well. It just eliminates the need to destroy a civilization, risk American lives, and it feels like the right thing. I mean, one final very quick thought. You can enrich uranium not to the level of weapons grade. You can enrich uranium for power plants. And there is a big difference there. And we could have, you know, maybe the deal is we'll have the monitors and this time, you know, steadfast and hard access to their level of uranium that they're enriching. That may be the solution. Maybe it's two parts start. We're going to go around you using pipelines and we're going to go take a look, let you enrich, but not to the level of weapons grade.
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Sam Faddis
Eric.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Eric, thank you so much. Taking time on Sunday.
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Trita Parsi
What?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Your homework assignment between now and the time markets open, you come back on tomorrow morning is I'm gonna get you a copy of the Potsdam Accords and the surrender instrument for the Japanese that they designed. Missouri. Thank you, bro. I appreciate you, sir. Okay. Stick around. Postos going to join us. We got Captain Faddis Excuse me, Sam Fatis Captain Fennell in the war room.
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Martha Stewart
is Martha Stewart from the Martha Stewart Podcast. Ever wonder how to make hosting look effortless? Here's a secret when prepping for cooking and baking, get ahead of the mess with new Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper. Just lightly wet the counter so the paper grips. Lay it down and drips and spills stay on the paper, not on your counter. Cleanup is as simple as lifting it away to reveal clean counters. Effortless it is thanks to Reynolds Kitchen's countertop prep paper. Wet it, set it, prep it done. Available in the Reynolds wrap aisle at Walmart.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think when you're diagnosed with cancer you crave a semblance of normalcy and control and so work allowed me to be me. So I think it's really important that companies stay flexible.
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Cancer Patient
Cancer in a diagnosis can be all consuming, but it doesn't have to be.
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Trita Parsi
Research shows there is a significant connection
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Research Narrator
between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery.
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Trita Parsi
We can make work a better place
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Cancer Patient
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Stephen K. Bannon
One thing is as we go through the days and weeks ahead, obviously economic warfare is going to come back to the forefront of this and the instrumentality when nations use about economic warfare. It's the reason we did end of the dollar empire. It's not that we want the end of the dollar empire, it's the forces that converge to end it. It's a construct that's been with us since the fall of the British Empire in World War II. In the aftermath and the rubble of World War II, a new world system was put in place. The economic system was the predicate of that was the US Dollar. Bretton woods, that is now it looks like coming apart. We had a major milestone of that, as Bloomberg reported, as we've talked about here for months. They finally caught up with it. Where gold backed assets are greater now than dollar backed assets. And one of the reasons is, as Trita said, the ability of the United States and as Sam said, the ability of the United States to basically dip into the world's banking system through the Swift system and others and be able to not just freeze assets, but since the Ukraine war, seize assets. Not just freeze assets anyway. Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon get up to speed on all of it. You'll understand current history better, you'll understand where this is going and it will help you with your own financial life. Birchgold.com, promo code bandit and get to Philip Patrick and the team captain Fennell, what do you believe as we leave you, not just the workings of the blockade, but what do you believe? The objectives, at least the objectives that the president has communicated to Admiral Cooper in centcom.
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Captain Fennell
Sir, it's clear his truth. The social post was very clear. We're going to institute a blockade to seal off the ability of Iran to make any money from either their toll booth or the ability to sell oil on the global market. So that's going to be shut down. I've got to believe that the president just didn't come out of that, you know, out of the blue and that there's plans to do that. And we now have resources that are refueled and refreshed and new carrier coming in and we'll be able to effectively implement this. And it affects, as we talked about last week, these five rings of John Warden. You know, we talked about going after leadership and the field and military forces and what this effectively does. Instead of bombing the organic essentials ring, the second ring outside of leadership, we're effectively cutting off their energy sector, gas field, all of these refineries, all that goes into that. We don't have to bomb it. We can just bottle it up and lock it up and they will not be able to do anything against it. They don't have a Navy, they don't have an air force, they don't have submarines. So the worst thing that they're going to do is they're going to take the remaining ballistic missiles that they have and the drones that they have and they'll try to launch them in some kind of desperation salvos against GCC states or against these existing pipelines that Eric talked about. But in effect, they will be strangled and they will be cut off. And it's like a wrestling match or WW or mma. You know, you're going to have somebody in a chokehold and they're going to lock out at some point. And I think that's what the President is doing. And let's just remember in this pause, the Iranians have probably started moving around and shifting and doing things because they haven't had daily strikes. Well, guess who's been monitoring all that? Guess who's been watching people come out and military forces come out of their underground caves and do things? We have. And we know where they're at. And so all new targeting data has been developed from this break. So not only are we refueling ourselves and refreshing our air crew, allowing sailors and aviators to get downtime to rest, but the intelligence community has gone in and reaped a whole new harvest of information. And we're going to mow that down as well. That's what's coming.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Captain Fadis, Captain Fennell, thank you so much for joining us here on a Sunday, changing your schedule around for your insights. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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Captain Fennell
Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Now the naval blockade is implemented. So Sam Faddes Trita brings up a good point. And Trump, look, Trump's always a disruptor. He's always looking for leverage. He's going to call audibles all the time. We do have technically 10 more days in the ceasefire, but this is going up the escalatory ladder pretty quickly. You're telling them, hey, you're not getting any more. Cap got your assets frozen. You brought it up in the negotiations. The 27 billion, even that's non negotiable. Plus what I froze before, it ain't happening. And I'm choking you down when it comes to your lifeline of cash money from the Chinese Communist Party in India. So it may be 10 more days in a ceasefire, but he's already gone up the escalatory ladder and said, no more cash, no more resources for you guys. Sam Faddis.
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Sam Faddis
Look, Steve, psychologically, from the standpoint of somebody who's been face to face with the IRGC and their intel guys and their nuke guys. The worst thing on earth you could do would be go back after they just spit in your face and gave you the finger, as you said, and, and agree to sit down with these guys. Honestly, I would be telling them, look, we agreed to a ceasefire based on your. Your representation. You were going to negotiate in good faith. You didn't. The ceasefire expires. Give him a date. Screw them. I mean, that's the way you have to. To talk to them. And again, I'm all for the blockade. This is something I've recommended for a long time. It is not enough. You are going to have to strangle them more and they will lash out. And they got drones they can build in a garage, so there's no such thing as a count on how many they have. And are they going to hit a US Warship? Highly unlikely that they're going to do that. And are we going to shoot down 95% of them? Absolutely, we are. But if they fire, if they fire several hundred of them at a desalination plant or a major production facility and only a handful get through, that still has the potential to really, really critically damage the world economy. They're going to play the Houthi card. I mean, the Houthis are not in the game right now because the Saudis bribe them. They're paying them billions of dollars to sit on the sideline. That's what that game's about. But that could change. That could change tomorrow. And we got it. I mean, literally, the. The Saudis for real, pay the salaries of the Saudis, pay the salaries of the Houthi fighters. That's how that game works, Middle east stuff. And you got to seal the land borders. You got to shut everything down. By the way, just on the Iranian Trita. Look, the Iranians enrich uranium for exactly one purpose, to build nuclear weapons. It has no conceivable civil use. In fact, when you enrich it to like 60%, it is completely useless. You can't put it in a reactor. It's. It is only. There is only one purpose for enriching uranium. To build the way they are doing it is to build nuclear weapons. So them saying we won't build nukes, but we'll keep enriching uranium is on its face, duplicitous. It's ridiculous. It's absurd. Come on, man. Your entire program is based. The only reason you do all of this is to build nukes. You would not keep enriching uranium that you then can't use for any other purpose. Let's just call them out on this stuff. Let's not play games with them.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sam, where do people go for and magazine and where they go on your social media, sir?
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Sam Faddis
Annmagazine.substack.com and Real Sam Faddis on X and Getter and every place else.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I'm going to talk to you after the show. The president was throwing down hard on Maria Bartiromo about the stolen 2020 election, which I know is a topic very close to your heart and mine. Thank you, sir. And the Patriots in Pennsylvania. Thank you, sir.
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Sam Faddis
Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Dr. Bradley Thayer, your strategic overview of where we stand right now, sir, on this Sunday, the day after the failed negotiations.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, Steve, just to add to what your great lineup has already touched on, I think that this is going to play to our strengths. A blockade plays. Iran may have influence at the Strait of Hormuz, but we own everything else. So if there is going to be a blockade, if we're moving towards that standpoint, that's playing to our strength. We do want to call attention to the fact that the CCP is backing up Tehran. And the reports on weapons transfers, of course, are alarming. We want to make sure that the CCP is not supplying Iran with the fuel or ballistic missiles. And when we start to touch on the proliferation issue, Steve, we want to keep in mind that the CCP transferred is widely suspected that the CCP transferred nuclear technology to Pakistan, including a nuclear weapon to Pakistan to help them with their nuclear program. So we want to watch Communist China very closely here as we move towards this is not just the Washington versus Tehran, but Beijing.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Do you agree that President Trump has sent a shot across the bow of the Chinese Communist Party by saying if he's blockading every ship coming out, most of the ships that are of any importance are heading to, are heading to East Asia, through Malacca, South China Sea and up, and to fuel them. I mean, he's just told Xi, hey, you're not, no more games, right? This is a classic Trump, no more games move, sir.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Absolutely. And we want to make sure that the Communist China doesn't do something that they would regret, right? Do something foolish in terms of helping out Tehran. Trump wants to leverage Beijing to help to use, of course, Beijing's great weight in Tehran to resolve this situation.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But he said yesterday, he said yesterday on the White House lawn that you, if people said, hey, there's reports that they're sending manpads and they're arming the Iranians. He said there'll be very bad news. If that is true, do you believe President Trump will back that up with dramatic action against the ccp because we know they're arming them, right?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Yep, absolutely. They are. And Sam made that good point about it's also the land pathways. Right. So there are going to be there are other ways to get into Iran. Blockade is going to be extremely important. But we want to watch land pathways into Iran from Pakistan in particular. So there's a lot to do and there's a lot to watch in terms of what the CCP is up to and what their plans are.
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Eddie Hobbs
Yeah.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on one second. We'll go to short break. You've also got your eye on Ireland. We're going to go there next. Dr. Thayer is going to tee us up. I think we got Eddie Hobbs, Michael Walsh, Jack Bosobi is going to join us. Also packed on a Sunday morning. Back in a moment.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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There's a huge vote in Hungary today about is Viktor Orban going to continue to remain in power after 16 years already in power. And of course, Viktor Orban, not just a friend of the show and
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Trita Parsi
a
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Stephen K. Bannon
friend of everyone here, but also one of the mainstays in the nationalist movement in Europe. But on the other side, the folks have been the most docile. The Irish are finally now stepping up and saying, hey, I think we've had a belly full of this. Eddie Hobbs joins us. Eddie, can you get us up currently what's happening in Ireland? It looks like the beginning of an open revolt, sir.
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Sam Faddis
Yeah.
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Eddie Hobbs
Well, the action overnight was quite significant. I mentioned to you on the program the last time we spoke that I thought there was an error in actually blocking the refinery. So they sent in the heavy units, which is the guarded public order unit. These are kind of black uniformed, masked, you know, full kit people trained, trained for heavy duty riots, you know. But they were facing farmers and truckers that were completely peaceful. So they cleared the place. Down in front of the refinery there was pepper sprays being used. It was very, very unpleasant. There's a lot of it on social media. And then at 3 o' clock in the morning, they also did the same in Galway over in west of Ireland, in front of another refinery there, another major depot. But then this morning, they decided at 3 o' clock in the morning, again without asking the truckers and farmers would they kindly move their heavy machinery, request to move it. They just simply at the same type squad ended up coming in. It was about 300 members of the Guardi arrived into O' Connell street and basically, you know, pushed them out. You know, they were just ordered to leave. And there was a lot of again, there was some confrontation there overalls. So that's what's happened. So I mean, effectively the protest people have punched hard for three days in a row, boxed in the government, government pushed back hard through the police force. There was some army involvement in terms of heavy vehicle. And this raises all sorts of concerns. So there's an awful lot of, you know, high levels of emotion today about what's happened here. And, you know, it's a very dynamic situation, Steve. We just have to see how it unfolds.
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Stephen K. Bannon
How is this playing with the Irish people? I mean, in the MAGA movement in the United States, a pretty significant portion of us are hammeredhead mix that are over here. We're shocked all the time by seeing how docile the population in Ireland is by these overlords from Brussels. And now to call out the army against a protest of farmers and truckers, the backbone of the nation. Where are the people coming out in this?
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Eddie Hobbs
Well, I mean, you have to understand that a large proportion, a high minority of the population are effectively part of the state economy. And so you should just whenever you look at numbers. But there was a poll just published in one of the Sunday newspapers today before these events became known where, you know, 56% of the population were completely behind them. I actually think that's rising as we speak as a consequence of what's happening. The blockades are still ongoing throughout the country. So the standoff continues on. The leaders of the movement are obviously coming under pressure. I mean, that's to be expected. You know, you've had farmers pulled out of tractors, you've had pepper spray being as I mentioned earlier on. And you know, these are get tough tactics from the government. And the reason they're getting tough is because they know that this is very, very close to a national strike. And there's calls for one over the next number of days. So people are really getting, you know, when you push back, as you know, you get a harder pushback from the population. And that seems to be the dynamic that's currently underway.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Eddie, where do people go depending upon your show and your social media feeds for information about the true information? All the traditional media in Ireland, it was all state propaganda. So where do people go, Eddie?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well,
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Eddie Hobbs
you'll get me on Counterpoint Eddie Hobbs, which is on YouTube and on Facebook and we're on Instagram and we're on X getting out all the material. But can I just say this, Steve, before we finish, there's some very good work done by an Irish economist, Sinead o', Sullivan, which shows really what's underneath all of this. People might look at the numbers, but the numbers are very significant. When you track the level of wealth that Ireland has created against the actual delivery of infrastructure and public services, we're way, way, way off where we should be. There's a massive gap between the wealth being generated and the actual improvement in health services and all the rest of it for the population. And that gap really is a constant problem because of housing deficits, which are huge, health deficits, which are huge. You know, we built the National Children's Hospital. It was the most expensive hospital in the world, you know, per bed. And so it goes on. So there's been a complete failure really, of the governance structure in Ireland for many decades to actually deal with the proper running of the country. And each of the political parties is terrified of taking that particular role on. Meanwhile, parties on the left who would be traditionally in favour of a larger state, you know, are all led the three major political parties, including Sinn Fein, who are, by the way, pro Islam, pro open borders, etc. All of these parties are led by left liberal women. And we've just elected a president to run the country who's coming from the same stable. And so we've had a godless Christmas and we've had St Patrick reframed as Ireland's first asylum seeker. So all of this is bubbling away in the background and it's all feeding into what's going on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's perfect. By the way, Sinn Fein was trained by the plo, so no doubt they're Islamists. Eddie, thanks. We'll stay on top of this. Look forward to having you back on the show in the next couple of days.
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Eddie Hobbs
Thanks, Steve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Incredible. Michael Walsh, our own Michael Walsh is in Ireland by phone. Michael, your thoughts on this, sir?
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Research Narrator
Well, Eddie just summed it up pretty well, Steve. And let me add a couple of other things from an outsider Irish American perspective, as I'm sure you can appreciate, what you're seeing here is possibly the turning point in breaking what I call the racket in Ireland. Ireland does not have, in any sense of the word, a representative democracy. You can have any flavor of ice cream you want, as long as it's vanilla. You have left vanilla, center left vanilla, hard left vanilla. You have a system that all votes go to this uniparty, which is gives the illusion of choice, but gives no choice, really. In the substance of it. And one of the examples Eddie brought up was this children's hospital which was created by Simon Harris under his administration as one of the under ministers back in the day. It's millions and millions over budget. It still hasn't opened yet. And someone pointed out basically you have Scandinavian levels of taxation and you have Somali levels of service for the people. And I explain as the unpopular outsider here, it's because this racket sits on three, it's a three legged stool. It's the government itself, which is a unit party with only illusory populist nationalists that's considered far right and neo Nazi, frankly. It's the media, which is paid for by the government. They support these media outfits. And the third thing are the NGOs which do things the government technically can't do. But it's a giant kickback machine. Steve, you and I and I know a lot of our listeners know the history of Tammany hall, which was run effectively by the Irish immigrants once we got to the United States in the late 19th century. And that's basically what this is here. It's a self replicating racket and why they're so scared of this. And I was just talking to our mutual friend Declan Ganley, who lives up the road from me here. This is a grassroots revolution in a way that's never been seen before here since, I don't know, the 1920s maybe. It's farmers, it's ordinary people, it's businessmen, it's entrepreneurs, it's truckers, it's haulers, it's tompagay in the pub when I was home at my local recently, at Mass after Mass today, everyone's talking about it, but everyone is supporting the need for the truckers to do this in order for the Irish people's voices to be heard and they are not heard. And the simple reason is that this is a lonely windswept rock with terrible weather in the middle of the North Atlantic. And it has become the dumping ground for the EUSSR's social problems. So diversity has ended up here, immigration has ended up here, asylum has ended up here. Any problem that Europe wants to bury, it has its accommodationists and collaborationists in the Irish government to accommodate them. And it's a sad truth about our people, Steve, but this is the result of 800 years of being a slave state to England that you either leave and find your own way in America, Australia, Canada or somewhere else, or you become a bureaucrat to serve the new master. The old masters were in London, they're now in Brussels. They're now Ursula von der Leyen. And that's the simple explanation.
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Stephen K. Bannon
800 years as a slave state. Our forefathers left it. As Mike Walsh, Michael Walsh says. Michael Walsh, where do people go to keep up with your commentary? Your find out your books and your social media where they go, sir.
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Research Narrator
Basically just X right now, Steve. So I'm at the amanuensis, which is a word for someone who writes for someone else. So A M A N E U S I S I'm keeping up the commentary there because, as you know, I'm in the middle of two other book projects and that pretty much occupies all my time. But I think we've got to make this point about Ireland. There's 40 million of us and they are scared of the diaspora. They are scared of our reach, our power, our celebrity, our money, everything. And we need to help our Irish brothers and sisters crack this racket so that they have a fair chance for the first time since the Normans invaded, probably in 11, whatever it was, to have their own culture, preserve their own culture and have the country they want to have. And that's what's at stake here.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Michael Walsh, once again, thank you for framing this properly. Appreciate you, brother. I'll talk to you after the show.
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Eddie Hobbs
Thanks a lot.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We think you're just a Polack, but you're much more than that, sir. You've got Irish roots also. Your thoughts?
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There are some accusations, there are some alleged questions. But look, Steve, the people of Ireland have been mistreated for far too long. First they were mistreated by the English. Now they're being mistreated by Brussels. And you can see those politicians who sit up there in Dublin and do the bidding of their masters in Brussels. They are not doing the work of the Irish people. First, they flood the island completely with Third World Somalis to rape the daughters of Ireland. Then they sit there and they take away the fuel. They go in with all the green taxes and all the green regulations for the petrol in Ireland. They won't give fuel to the farmers, they won't give fuel to the people. They won't give fuel to the hospitals, even the children's hospitals, because the masters in Dublin do not care about the children of Ireland. They do not care about the Irish people. And the Irish people fought for far too long to achieve independence for their island to have to be. To let it go and submit and get on their knees and give the throat, show the throat, right? That's what you used to have to do show the throat. No. It's time and in high time for the people of Ireland to rise up. And Steve, I'm seeing videos of Catholic priests holding masses in the back of trucks, standing with the Nationalists and the patriots of Ireland. That's the way forward.
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Jack Hanger, for one second, I'm gonna keep you. I need your thoughts on the naval blockade. Dr. Thayer is also with us. We're gonna try. We got a D block to go and we're gonna jam it all in. I want to thank our sponsors, particularly Birch Gold. Take your phone out, text Bannon at 989-898. Get the ultimate guide. It's totally free, and there are no obligations ever. For Birch Gold Ultimate Guide for Investing in Gold and precious.
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Cancer Patient
But, Mr. President, you wrote on Truth Social this morning saying that we will begin the process of blockading any and all ships trying to enter or leave the Strait of Hormuz. And at some point, we will reach an all being allowed to go in and all being allowed to go out basis. So tell us what you're trying to accomplish with this all out.
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Donald Trump
All out out?
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Research Narrator
Yep.
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Donald Trump
It's called all in and all out. There'll be a time when we have them all come in and all come out, but it won't be a percentage. It won't be a friend of yours, like a country that's your ally or a country that's your friend. It's all or nothing. And that'll be. That won't be in too long a distance. No, we're just bringing the ships up. We got a lot of ships that we're bringing them up. We think that numerous countries are going to be helping us with this also. But we're putting on a complete blockade aid. We're not going to let Iran make money on selling oil to people that they like and not people that they don't like or whatever it is. It's going to be all or none. And that's the way it is. And it'll be. You saw, you saw what we did with Venezuela. It'll be something very similar to that, but at a. At a higher level, doing well at all. They're getting killed. I could take out Iran in one day.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Let me have it.
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Donald Trump
I could take out.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Let me have it. Jack Posoba, former naval officer or naval person as he used to refer to Churchill. President Trump just reiterated what we said on the show. It's a naval blockade. Nobody goes in, nobody goes out unless the United States Navy and the commander in chief decide that they can Your thoughts, sir?
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Look, Steve, it's real simple. These negotiations kicked off and even prior to the finish, which I agree with some of the other analysts, they're not sure if this is completely finished. But here's what is finished. The idea that Iran can utilize federally, shut down the Strait of Hormuz is done. And here's why. Because the United States Navy sent a couple of Arleigh Burke cruiser Arleigh Burke destroyers cruising up in there and they said, wait a minute. The Iranians came out and said, hold on a second, we didn't give you permission to do that yet. You know what the Navy said? The United States Navy does not ask permission. The United States Navy goes where it needs to go and it does not ask permission from anybody except the President, United States, the Commander in Chief and the Lord God above. That's the only person, the only entities the United States Navy asked permission for. Steve, this is about freedom of navigation. And who provides that freedom of navigation on the high seas? It is the United States Navy. This is internationally recognized waterway, all right? This is, this is governed by the unclass, the UN Convention, the Law of the sea. The United States Navy is providing for that freedom of navigation. And if any of our other partners or allies or who, who, whoever else, China, Russia, whoever it may be, would like to participate in that freedom of navigation, well, I'll tell you where you can go. The address is 1600 Penn. The guy there, he loves to work the phones and he's waiting for your call.
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As a former destroyer officer that was in the Strait of Hormuz in the North Arabian Sea, in the Gulf of Oman, this warms the cockles of my heart. However, sir, is this not the beginning? Because as the Revolutionary Guard shifted the center of gravity of the battle, as Napoleon of Klosp tells us, from Tehran to the Persian Gulf of the Stri Hormuz, we just shifted it to the Gulf of Oman, the global oil markets, the North Arabian Sea and Beijing. Is this the beginning of the confrontation of the Chinese Communist Party in the United States of America, sir?
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Steve, I have been saying until I'm blue in the face straits, everyone is focused on the wrong straight. What did I say? Everyone's focused on the wrong straight. And then what came out earlier this week was Xi Jinping sitting down with the opposition to Taiwan, the Kuomintang, sitting down talking about peaceful reunification of the Taiwan Strait. Everything that President Trump is doing right now is about targeting China. And we are all hurtling towards this meeting May 14th in Beijing. There Zhongnanhai, the Forbidden City, right in the gate of heavenly Peace, Tiananmen Gate, Tiananmen, Guangzhong itself. And President Trump is doing everything looked at Venezuela came first, then comes Iran. He's systematically working his way through China's power modules, the arterial powers of the Chinese empire. We used to talk about this, the dragon as they put their belt and road. Well, what's President Trump doing?
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Research Narrator
Doing?
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Stephen K. Bannon
He's snipping the belt.
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You came on, you came on in January 20th, I think of 2020 and you talked about you were the first guest when we shifted from impeachment to warm pandemic. And you said at the end of the show that Xi did not no longer had the favor of heaven. Do you believe that he has it today, sir?
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I do not believe that Xi Jinping has the favor of heaven or the mandate of heaven. I do not believe the Chinese Communist Party has ever had it. And what they do is they use brutal repression and brutal tactics to make the populace believe that they have the mandate of heaven, that they have the best interest of the Lao baijing of the Chinese people at heart. But ultimately they do not. And we are seeing right now that perhaps the mandate of heaven may have fallen may, may have fallen in a place a little bit closer to Washington, D.C.
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jack Posobic, social media, you've become the Associated Press of the MAGA in America first movement. And watching all this. Where do people go?
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It's Ack Posobec, of course, Human Events Daily. We're doing the daily sit reps. If you guys are following, you know that I did take a little detour yesterday to ruin the entire political career of one Congressman Eric Swalwell with a video that I received last night as well as verification of that video which I then posted. I'm told that there is more to the story that you know remains to be seen and potentially other Democrats elected individuals who may be involved and we're just going to leave it at that right now to continue to work my sources.
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We go from the sub, we go from the sublime to the less sublime. Love you, Jack. I'm going to call you later about deploying Kevin Bosoba tireless and talk to you after.
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I might not get him back.
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Dr. Bradley.
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Donald Trump
I know.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Meet a good girl over there. Dr. Bradley Thayer, give me a minute on Ireland before we go. We got about 60 seconds. Your thoughts you follow this closely on the Ireland and the Irish people, sir.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Farmer and trucker strike that you've seen since Tuesday has been the government claims to have broken it. It's a grassroots revolution. Very importantly, the Irish people are fed up with not the fuel prices certainly but it's the housing crisis led by. And immigration. Right. Which fuels the housing crisis. So at least one out of every five people living in Ireland is not native born and it may be as high as one out of every four people now living in. In Ireland.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Wow.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Is not native born. That's a dramatic change. Right. That's a huge change happened in the last last 20 years, Steve. And it's been accelerating.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What's your social media? What's your. What's your social media. I need people
- [53:34]
Dr. Bradley Thayer
and get her.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We'll see. Have you head Back on tomorrow. Dr. Bradley Thayer. What a show. What a lineup. Thank you. Thank Real America's Voice. We're going to be back at 10aM Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow morning. Make sure you go check out Birch Gold. Do it today. Text Bannon B a n n 989-898. Talk to Philip Patrick in the team and do it today. We'll see you tomorrow at 10.