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Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
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Apollo Pappas
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Mike Davis
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Apollo Pappas
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Steve (Guest Analyst)
May have even done it last summer. Maybe have done it within days of this conflict. Then it became regime change and now it becomes open the Strait of Hormuz. How is it our problem, the Strait of Hormuz? I mean, we don't even get much oil through the Strait of Hormuz to these shores. It's a Europe problem. It's an, it's an Asia problem. It's not our problem, it's an India problem. I think he was so smart to say, it's your ball. NATO, China, your ball. You open the straight, we've done our job. But then he just went back to let's bomb them into, into submission, into the Stone Age, which the oil traders said, that is not good because these people won't relent. Even if they're in the Stone Age, they'll still use whatever capacity they have to kill Americans and to blow up infrastructure and make oil prices go higher because it hurts Trump and hurts Americans.
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Steve Bannon
Do you think they're also saying, do you think they're also saying, we've looked at the Royal Navy, we look at what France has as naval assets. We've looked at the Italians, we saw the. As I was hammering every day last summer, what a poor job they did in assisting the American strike forces. Carrier strike groups down the Red Sea against the Houthis were really, the Americans took it all on. I think the French sent a corvette, the British sent a destroyer. France sent a frigate, but no real support. Do you think the world's oil markets are sitting there going, President Trump says that they're going. We're not buying that.
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Mike Davis
They can't.
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Steve Bannon
You're the United States. You're the United States Navy. You're the heir to the world navy. You're the most powerful naval force. You keep free navigation, all. Was it Straits of Malacca, the South China Sea, Hormuz, the Red Sea, the Suez Canal. It's the United States Navy that keeps it open. And if you're telling me you're pulling out, then I don't think this thing's getting result. I don't care how badly you bomb the Iranians, they still got enough of these kind of Houthi type guys on the, on the coast down there. And most of those are not Persian. I think a lot of them are just kind of these better ones that are down there, these Berbers, I think they're better ones down there with these rockets that can try to, they're essentially pirates that are doing the pirate craft right now. Do you think that, you think the world's oil market does it. When President Trump says it's your problem, they get nervous. They don't want to see. They get, they get Keir Starmer hosting a 40 nation, you know, today, everybody talking but they say, hey, I have Trump in the United States Navy or I've got Keir Starmer in 40, you know, you know, Balkan company countries.
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Steve (Guest Analyst)
Sir, here's I think, Steve, I think, yes, I think the oil market is waiting to see actually what happens. Boots in the sand or not us here's what I believe. I from the bottom of my heart, I believe if we said we, our job is done here. We blur a their nuclear capacity, we're packing up, we're going home again. We don't get a lot of oil through that strait to the US Shores. It's your job. You know, who is risk? Europe has risk, China has risk. They'll get it open because you know who, who these, the Iranian customers are and the Saudi customers are both sides of the strait. The Chinese and Europe, they'll get the thing open.
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Mike Lindell
Yeah.
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Steve (Guest Analyst)
Right now this thing's staying closed to give the middle finger to Donald Trump and the American people. If we walk away, they will absolutely get that thing done, either militarily or through negotiation. I believe that from the bottom of my heart. And until you hear that until we get out, the oil market's not going to relent.
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Steve Bannon
When Bolling says negotiations, he means they'll pay the pirates to $2 million per ship or whatever the pirates, whatever those pirates charge. Eric, a social media. We're going to bounce down to our show. Great, great report. Hopefully see you tomorrow. Where do people go?
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Steve (Guest Analyst)
Yeah, and Eric Bowling all the time, Steve. But you know, these, these discussions we're having are crucial. We have people in the chat saying like it or not, we've been, we've Been right on a lot of stuff right here. Right here. Real America's voice 4 to 5. Also on mornings in the warm occasionally. Steve, good having you on, brother. Have a great show.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you. Thank you for doing the transition here. Appreciate it. Okay, we're going to get back into the war and geopolitics in the second hour, but there's a lot we got to talk about in this first hour. And I've got Mike Davis, also Tina Peters. Team, we've got a brief cold open for the viceroy. Let's do that. And the viceroy will join us momentarily.
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Cancer Survivor / Advocate
Did his attorney General Pam Bondi. After growing increasingly disappointed with her job performance, Trump says Bondi will move into a job in the private sector and that deputy AG Todd Blanch will now serve as the acting ag.
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I
Well, I mean, let's not forget Blanche the other day at CPAC said, why wouldn't you want ice at polling locations? So that is something that Donald Trump wants. So if you pay attention to the way that he's talking, it feels a little different than it in the past and much more in line with Donald Trump. I mean, this whole list of people, these are lawyers, these are legal folks. These are some of them with differing levels of perspective from the legal community. I'm sure at least it knows that better than I. But at the end of the day, it almost doesn't matter. And this goes across the cabinet, at the end of the day, Donald Trump and maybe depending on what the issue is, someone like the deputy White House chief of staff Stephen Miller, they are calling the shots, Right? Same thing with dhs. When he, when he got rid of Kristi Noem out of that job job, it was because she wasn't doing what he wanted to. But the kinds of things that he is asking these folks to do are sometimes, according to judges, not me, illegal. And more importantly, are operating in a world, a political world that just doesn't actually exist in the one that we live in. And he doesn't believe in separation of power. So you can be the figurehead of these organizations. But at the end of the day, Donald Trump and some folks at the White House are going to be the ones that are going to be running those organizations across the administration. And frankly, if Donald Trump had his
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Cancer Survivor / Advocate
way across the government, well, Bondi did everything she could during her time as the nation's top law enforcement officer to do Donald Trump's bidding. What tipped the scale, according to Ms. Now's reporting, is that Trump grew, quote, frustrated with Bondi's inability to successfully prosecute several individuals whom he considers political enemies and has argued should face criminal charges. It is not that Bondi did not try to deliver Trump's revenge. When Trump directed her to prosecute his perceived enemies in a public Truth social post back in September, she took her marching orders. But here's what happened to the most high profile cases. There was the failed attempt to prosecute former FBI Director James Comey when the case was thrown out by a judge. There were three failed attempts to indict or prosecute New York Attorney General Letitia James. And a grand jury rejected an attempt to charge six sitting Democratic lawmakers. Three sources familiar with the matter tell Ms. Now that EPA administrator former Republican Congressman Lee Zeldin is on a short list. But it's not clear that any other person in that post can and will have more success with Bondi's failures. The second high profile firing of a Trump cabinet official in less than a month.
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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Apollo Pappas
country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon (Sponsor Reads)
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Steve Bannon
It is holy Thursday the 2nd of April in the year of our Lord 2026. In this hour we're going to have John Eastman is going to join us a little later about yesterday and many other things on the legal side. Tina Peters team including Apollo Pappas will join us about the Tina Peters situation. I want to start with the viceroy. Mike, you have been at the forefront of what I would call talking about and assisting on this. The greatest crime of the century, the stealing of the 2020 election, everything the deep state did, there is movement. We know we have a top flight U.S. attorney down in south south Florida that's working on this. There have been other efforts as you've chronicled here in the war room with Tish James, with with Comey. There has been a huge lack of just resources and and horsepower at both main justice and with the US Attorneys and the US Attorneys are kind of your, you know, your light infantry or light cavalry compared to Main Justice. The bring in the heavy guns, you've only got. I still think 14 U.S. attorneys, you still got the blue slip situation. Why do you think? Was it because Pam Bondi, the system's just moving too slow or the system's moving as the system moves? I mean, why change out? And given Pam Bondi's. Obviously, Pam's got some shortcomings, but you're in the middle of it right now. And to change, folks, with confirmation hearings, etc. Do you think it. Do you think it slows it down, or you think this is actually a pretty good move by the president?
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Mike Davis
I want to say this. First of all, I am one of Pam Bondi's biggest fans. I always have been and I always will be. Pam Bondi is bold. She's fearless. And just over a year as the Attorney General of the United States, she brought monumental reforms to the Justice Department. She hired people, she closed down. She hired people, she fired people, she closed down politicized investigations, and she opened investigations to hold people accountable. And there are a lot of things the public does not know right now about what Pam Bondi has done. And. And we're going to see the fruits of that bear out over the next several years. And so I think when people look back at Pam Bondi's tenure, they're going to see that she got a lot done, a lot more than all the Republican AG predecessors of her combined. She had bigger balls than all of them combined. And so I say hats off to Pam for doing a phenomenal job. She had an impossible job and she got a lot done. Now we have Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch, who was Pam's deputy.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. One second before we talk about Todd Fleeting up and other possibilities, because I think there's a pretty deep bench out there. You said impossible job. I just want to make sure the audience understands this because obviously Pan's got some shortcomings, but she's got a heart of a lion and she went in there. Part of the shortcomings. I just want people to understand this. She was in court, or she had main justice in court every day. We've had, what, 35 or 40 times they've had to go into court with these federal judges to talk about President Trump's main policies and fight a third of these up to the Supreme Court. The man hours involved in that, particularly when you're understaffed. And I don't think. I think We've done, particularly the war room, not a good enough job of telling people that if you think the Republicans hate MAGA because of mass deportations and they hate MAGA because of America first foreign policy. And they hate MAGA because MAGA wants President Trump's populist, nationalist economic policies of tariffs to bring jobs back. One of the things they really hate is that there is a, an actual effort to make sure that the best talent on the right and in the Republican Party does not go, as most people do, to take a tour at justice, to get that resume box checked off and then to go on to greater things at a law firm, at a prestigious law firm where you're on the fast track to make partner. I mean, Pam Bondi, for all her shortcomings, that there was an open conspiracy against President Trump and the Trump administration to make sure she didn't have access and present, therefore President Trump doesn't have access to the top flight legal talent that happens to be out there on the right. And that when you have to then go and defend, because you know, Mark Elias, you just saw it last Friday in Georgia, you had to have people from Main just to take their time and go down, argue the evidentiary hearing for five hours. But they had to prepare for that. That's happening every day. And that just. And when you don't have that many resources, when you're that understaffed, when they've blue slipped, these U.S. attorneys, you only got, I think 13 or 14 of them. Right. Or the ones you get through, you know, have been approved by left wing Democrats. You're going to have. And I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just saying the reality, and I don't think we've done a good enough job of telling people what the reality is on the siege against President Trump and his administration. Mike Davis. Yeah.
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Mike Davis
And let me just remind people, President Trump had to go through all of the lawfare before the election. Three years of trying to throw him in prison for life four times, bankrupt him for nod fraud, that Gene Carroll nutjob tried to take all of his money. I mean, it's just throwing him off the ballot, taking off his head. That was just the beginning. Remember when, when President Trump got back into office, we saw the unrelenting judicial sabotage by these Democrat attorneys, these Democrat plaintiffs and these Democrat judges around the country trying to sabotage the will of the American people. And it was Attorney General Pam Bonte who, who broke through that sabotage and actually beat it. She went to the Supreme Court like 30 times. And she won like 95% of the time. No attorney general has done more for article to the presidency and the Constitution than what Pam Bondi did in one year as the Attorney General. And that's not hyperbole.
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Steve Bannon
Mike Hanger for a second. We're going to drill down on this more because there's a continuity here of using Lawfare which they use the most and they've perfected it. Now let's be blunt. Number one, we have not perfected if we don't do it. And our defenses against it are pretty rudimentary. They've done this the entire time Trump came on the scene. And hey folks, take your number two principle out down out and write this down. You think you wait till they take the House of Representatives. They take the House. They're already planning and plotting what they're going to do. They're already got these law firms like Covenant Burley and others plotting Short Break
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Stephen K. Bannon (Sponsor Reads)
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Martha Stewart
is Martha Stewart from the Martha Stewart Podcast. Ever wonder how to make hosting look effortless? Here's a secret Getting ahead of the mess with new Reynolds Kitchens Countertop Prep Paper Just lightly wet the counter beforehand so the paper grips and stays in place. Then lay down the Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper so drips and spills stay on the paper, not all over your kitchen counter. You can roll out dough, prep a party spread or cook alongside family. When you're done, cleanup is as simple as lifting the paper and revealing that clean counter underneath. Effortless. You can use it for cooking and baking, prep and even crafting, especially when you need extra working space because when the mess is already handled, you can focus on what matters, the food, the people and the moment. It may look effortless, but now you know. It's Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper. Take a tip from me. Wet it, set it, prep it, done. Make it easy. Make it with Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper available now in the Reynolds scrap aisle in Walmart.
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Steve Bannon
In the 30 front war. In the 30 front war, where the radical left and the Marxist left and even the jihadists have a striking advantage is in the the, the weaponization of the law full stop. And you can see it at every level. We talked about jury nullifications and they're teaching jury nullification to basically folks on the street to get into these juries. If it's anything to do with ICE or anything to do with the Trump administration, justice to void it, regardless what the facts are. We saw this in Dallas in the murder case of the gang member. I think you just saw it partially in New York City with the police officer that was gunned down and they took away the capital murder charge. You see this jury nullification, that's just one aspect. Look, we're going to have Apollo Pappas on here in a second. Mike's going to jump in. But talking about Tina Peters, that's just at the state level. But they had Norm Ison and Abby Lowell. Abbey Lowell's one of the most expensive lawyers in this country, folks. He's the big ticket guy. He's down arguing in Georgia for five hours in a courtroom and guess what? As well as our Justice Department did, which had to take the time to go down and argue that they landed some blows last week on the evidentiary hearing to get the ballots back. Radical law schools, radical law professors, the Ivy League schools at the feeding system for the first place. These law firms. Why do you think Boris had the strategy to go after the big law firms initially and try to break them? Because these law firms, Covington Burley is a perfect example, right? You had these law firms that had to be broken because they were doing pro bono work and basically putting their best partners on it to do various things on immigration and other things to break our system. This is where I am not making excuses for Pam Bondi and her performance. You have to judge that, but you have to contextualize what Pam Bondi was up against. And if there's any area, any area where they have a distinct advantage and a huge advantage is this whole lawfare legal. And here's why. Because the Republicans and the traditional Republicans understand corporate America is woke and progressive. And just because we've taken some training programs, that means we don't. Don't mean we haven't changed it. We haven't changed it at all or barely change it. It's their mentality. They won't get hired by these big corporations for the big ticket legal work. And so therefore they say, no, you can't go work for Pam Bondi. You can't go work for Todd Blanche, you can't go to work for the Justice Department. You can't be a U.S. attorney at that level. It's all about talent. And then it's about critical mass of talent. And look what Pam's had to put up with of all these cases every day. Remember the first when we were flooding the zone? Every day we'd have Mike Davis and others on here to talk about, hey, they're going to court today. They're going to court here. They're doing this, they're doing that. All takes resources. Eventually, at Fort Apache, you just run out of horsepower. Mike Davis. And I think that's a reality. And people should is a continuum. This is a continuum. It's a process. They started with Trump and the MAGA movement because they understood this was a disruptive populist nationalist movement that would break what the system is in, the globalist system. And they came after Trump to eliminate him and to do everything illegal in the first term. When that didn't work, that's when they stole the election. They stole the election to send him away when he came back, which they were never expecting. Now you have a whole nother set of fights. And Jamie Raskin, these people applauding today with these big law firms for when they take the House and if somehow they take the Senate and somehow they take the White House in 2028 and I gave a speech six months ago, and I think it was Mark Meadows Group. And I said, folks, unless you hunker down, unless you hunker down and start win and keep winning elections that we haven't shown that we can win yet without President Trump on the ballot, that everybody in this room that is dedicated to this cause, irrespective of what you've done, you're gonna go to prison. Because this is how they play smash mouth. And I don't. I think people, they look well, Pam, Bonnie's thing. And let's just put another person in. We have a systemic problem now. Thank God. Mike, as you know, we have a pretty good bench, I think, of people who step in here, but that's just at the top level. We need grundoons, we need the hoplites, we need the firepower of a mass insertion of talent into both main justice and then at the U.S. attorney offices. Mike Davis, your thoughts?
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Mike Davis
Yeah, I mean, look, as we talked about, I think Pam did a phenomenal job. She did a thankless job. She was able to plow through a lot of the judicial sabotage, including monumental wins at the Supreme Court of the United States for the presidency, for Article 2, for the Constitution, for President Trump. She won more times at the Supreme Court on the biggest cases than any attorney general before her. And that's going to be her legacy. She also fired a lot of bad people within the Justice Department. She hired good people. She closed politicized investigations. She opened good ones. Remember, it took two years for Jack Smith to indict. I think people forget that. And that was with all the resources that Jack Smith had, where every good lawyer at every good law firm and every good AUSA around the country was beating down Jack Smith's door to go prosecute President Trump and his allies. We have a different dynamic, as we've talked about, where we do not have the bench that the left does. Even the Republican attorneys who you would think would want to help don't want to do this because they don't want their careers destroyed by the left. But regardless, we're charging ahead. And Acting Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche is taking the baton from Pam Bondi. He is going to charge forward. We have good US Attorneys like my friend Jason Redding Kenone down in the Southern District of Florida. You saw the special grand jury opened up in Fort Pierce in January. I think you're going to see some movements down there. You're seeing news reports about subpoenas going out, hundreds of them. You hear news reports about how Brennan could be a target of this investigation. So I would tune in down there. We are going to carry forward with accountability, and we have no shortage. I said this to you before, Steve. There's no shortage of good people who could step up right now as Attorney general. I have a list of 10. I mean, we have Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, who's at the top of the list. Other Justice Department officials are people like Harmeet Dhillon, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Judge Jeanine Pirro, the D.C. u.S. Attorney. I don't think John Sauer wants the job, the Solicitor General. He's doing a phenomenal job as the Solicitor General. But then there are people throughout the administration you're hearing about EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin, FTC Chairman Andrew Ferguson would be phenomenal. My friends, OMB General Counsel Mark Paoletta. He's a warrior, a friend of mine. Deputy Secretary of State Chris Landau was one of the few attorneys out there with me when it was. When it was pretty lonely defending President Trump after the Mar A Lago raid. It was people like Chris Landau and me defending President Trump. Every day on your show on Fox News. You have great senators like Eric Schmitz, like Mike Lee, a dark horse. Who I think would be great as the Attorney general is someone like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. That guy has proven for many, many years that he's bold and fearless. So there's 10 names right there who could be the Attorney General, the next Attorney General of the United States. And so we have a deep bench and we're going to charge forward.
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Steve Bannon
You've got some great names. And people know I had a big problem with DeSantis running against the President. But I think he's done a good job as governor. He's a bulldog on AI. I think he'd be a very interesting name to put it. I think Lee Zeldin, Todd Blanch, I think's doing a terrific job. Just fleet him up if you have to. Whatever you can get confirmed. But you got some great names on there. Pay a Letta. I mean, this Judge Jeanine. And if you couldn't get Judge Nina as, as, as Attorney General, bring her in as something else. You got Harmeet. You've got many people. I love the dag. I love the. I'd love the. I love the Eric Schmidt. I think he's a bulldog. I think you need some bull. I think you need people that got thick armor and can take some incoming. Because if you're going to crash down, I also want to throw out another name. The Guy, I never thought they should back off in the first place. Matt Gaetz, we would have gotten Matt Gates confirmed. There's no doubt that Matt Gates would be confirmed. I think Matt Gates would be.
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Mike Davis
Matt's making so much money. Matt's making so much money in San Diego, there's no chance in hell you're going to get him to go back to D.C. and take the reason.
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Steve Bannon
I don't blame it that that's the reason the. Hang on. That's the reason the Viceroy is not top of my list. You and Gates have. You and Gates have gone on to private practice? No, I want to. No, but I. Gates would be perfect. I think you'd be great. Here's my point. That's 10 or 11 we put together right before the show. We've got some firepower. I think that the Judiciary Committee in the Senate, I don't know. This is your special. You're the confirmation guy. I think they ought to huddle over with the president and president ought to walk through a battle plan saying, hey, look, here's what we need to see. Because we're dealing with the deepest scandal in American history, the stealing of the 2020 election. They don't have Abby Lowell and Norm Ice and paying those kind of tickets, those guys, those bills they're sending them if they're not scared to death about the ballot situation in Georgia. You know this, Mike. We've got the greatest scandal in American history dealing with President Trump. We've got to get to the bottom of this and we got to get to the bottom of it now. And I think it needs to be more of a team effort. I think Judicial, Senate, Judiciary has got to be brought in. We got to figure out if it's going to be somebody outside the system, how we get confirmation done quickly. Your thoughts about that?
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Mike Davis
Yeah, we, we have a deep bench and we need to move forward to get it. So Jack Smith, two years to bring his indictments. I have a strong feeling we're going to start seeing indictments and indictments in the, in the next several weeks. You know, we could see indictments by June is what I suspect. And I would say that the welfare Democrats buckle up. The fact that there is a shake up the Justice Department does not take you off the radar. You're certainly on the radar and probably more so now than ever because people are very focused on this. So John Brennan's days as a free man could be numbered.
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Steve Bannon
Mike, just hang on one second. I know you gotta bounce, but I just need some thoughts that you laid out this morning that kind of went viral about Tina Peters. I'm gonna have Tina Peters team join us. John Eastman's also going to join us. This is the Vice. We're gonna hang around for a few minutes. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Take your phone out, text Bannon B A N N o N at 989-898. You get the ultimate guide. This guide is free and there's no obligation from Birch Gold. You get to talk to Philip, Patrick and team. Philip's going to be with me for a half hour to an hour on Saturday morning. Birchgold.com get to Philip Patrick and team and do it today.
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Cancer Survivor / Advocate
I need to be healthy every day to survive it and go through the next chemo round and the next chemo round. So it's important that work was part of that to keep my mind busy for eight, nine hours. And then I had to go back and face the reality. I had a goal and the goal is to survive.
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Mike Davis
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Steve Bannon
We got Todd Blanche, we have Judge Deneen, we got Lee Zeldin, Eric Schmidt, John Sauerkraut. You've got Matt Gaetz, potentially Mike Davis, a very deep bench and many others. Andrew Ferguson, it just got some incredible names here. Mike Lee, Tina Peters, you've been very involved with this. You're in Colorado, you're part of the Colorado Bar. Although they may be coming after you given some of your comments. Just walk us through. This is not purely legal. It also is political. Where the political world meets the legal. Tell us, just tell us what happened today and your interpretation of what's going on here.
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Mike Davis
Mike Davis, what these Democrat politicians did and are continuing to do to Tina Peters is 1,000% political persecution. And the Colorado Court of Appeals, all Democrat appointees made that clear today in one of their rulings. Tina Peters was sentenced to prison. A 69 year old woman, a former Mesa County, Colorado election official, was sentenced to nine years in prison. And this Mesa County District Judge Matthew Barrett, who is, like I said, a garbage human being and let me repeat that for the Colorado Bar, a garbage human being. Judge Matthew Barrett put her in prison for nine years and he stated at the sentencing hearing when he sentenced her the reason he was doing it because is because he didn't like her views on the election. He didn't like the fact that she thought the election was stolen. Guess what? That violates the First Amendment. As the Democrat appointed Colorado Court of Appeals just ruled today when they reversed this Judge Matthew Barrett, this garbage human being, this Republican name and name only garbage judge who should resign and Harmeet Dillon, the head of the Civil Rights division should open a criminal investigation and put his ass in prison because he punished Tina Peters and Put her in prison for nine years, a 69 year old woman because he didn't like her First Amendment protected views. That is absolute political persecution by this judge. He's a complete garbage human being and he must be held accountable.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, hang on for us. And that lawyers, the appellate court didn't do anything about. I believe there are seven felonies. Right. Or aspects of seven felonies. They didn't reverse that. They sent it back to the state district judge, this guy back in Mesa county. They remanded it to him to resentence her. What, what is that? What does that mean? Because for non lawyers it sounds very confusing.
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Mike Davis
Yeah, it means they, they affirmed the conviction which they should not have done. But I didn't expect them to reverse the conviction because these are still partisan Democrat judges on the Colorado Court of Appeals. But this is such an egregious constitutional violation of Tina Peters. Constitutional rights are first and 14th amendment rights. Because this Mesa county judge said again that he's punishing her because of her viewpoints. Because Tina Peters thinks that the election was stolen. Because it was stolen. Everyone knows it was stolen. And the fact that she said that this judge put her in prison for nine years. He made it very clear at sentencing he was going to punish her more severely because of her viewpoint, because of her First Amendments protect its viewpoints. It is outrageous that he did this. This is why at the Article 3 project we've been calling on Governor Jared Paulus to commute her sentence. As we talked about this morning, Steve, I think Governor Paulus was very close to commuting Tina Peters sentence. And then these left wing whack job Democrats in Colorado like the fat Jenna Griswold, the Colorado Secretary of State raised hell along with Phil Weiser, the pussy Attorney General in Colorado, another Democrat hack. And so the Governor polis couldn't commute the sentence on his own. So I think these judges, these Democrat appointed judges are helping bring much needed justice to Tina Peters case by reversing this judge Matthew Barrett and giving him a chance to fix this. I doubt he will because he's such an idiot. He's one of the dumbest judges in Colorado and so he'll probably screw this up again. And that's when I think the governor will have to step in and commute Tina Peters sentence. You're going to put someone in. First of all, she didn't commit any crime. But even if you think that she committed a crime, she's being sentenced to prison longer than many very serious violent felons in Colorado. And this, this dumbass judge, the dumbest judge in Colorado, was dumb enough to say he did it because he didn't like her views on the election. I mean, again, I'm calling on Harmeet Dhillon to open up a federal civil rights probe, a criminal probe on Mesa County, Colorado District Judge Matthew Baritz for political persecution of Tina Peters. He needs to go to prison.
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Steve Bannon
The appellate court is clearly. Because when we first talked about this on the show, I think it was right after Christmas, right around Christmas, when it was leaked that Polis was thinking of either clemency or something with it because he's thinking of running for president. But he also sees they got other comparisons. I think he put one out of some woman that got, like, probation. He got lit up. And remember, he's in the firmament of their stars. Right? He's a guy that was very instrumental in turning Colorado from a red state to a purple state. Now to a blue, let's face it, a blue state. He deep blue. They lit him up like nobody's business. They lit him up. And so he's kind of hanging back. Obviously, he knows that this is wrong. He's kind of admitted that. But what confidence we have. This guy is demented, this judge. What he said in the courtroom about Tina, how he had her dragged away, not even let some time go to get her affairs in order, which you would let. They dragged her away like she was a murderer in this sentence. And they put her in this, this horrible maximum security prison. If he. Let's assume that he's not smart enough to listen to the appellate court kind of reading the riot act. Let's assume he doesn't do anything. What are other options? Is it back to Polis? And now Polis is jammed up because he wants to run for president. He realized he's got a problem here with the rest of the nation sitting there going, how'd you put a gold star, mother? How'd you let this judge put her in prison at 70 years old for nine years, sir? Yeah.
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Mike Davis
I would say this to Governor Polis. This is a test for you to see if you're a statesman, to see if you're willing to correct a grave injustice in your states or if you're going to be Jenna Griswold's bitch. I mean, that's what it comes down to. Are you going to let Jenna Griswold drag you around with a dog collar? Are you going to be the governor and stand up and do the right thing here? And that what does Matthew, again, I'm very serious about this. I think Harmeet Dylan should open up a criminal probe and send in the FBI and arrest this Mesa County District Court Judge, Matthew Barrett. He clearly persecuted, he clearly violated Tina Peters constitutional rights. And he did it blatantly. He did it openly. And it's complete. These Democrats like Jenna Griswold and Phil Weiser and this Republican and name only Judge Matthew Barrett, they are trying to kill Tina Peters. It's very clear. They want her to suffer and die in prison because she had the courage to speak out about a stolen election. And so they made up crimes and they punished her as harshly as they possibly could. They can go to hell, all of that. But in the meantime, I want Harmeet Dylan to put this Matthew Barrett in prison.
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Steve Bannon
Mike Davis, where do people go for Article 3 and where they go for your social media, which comes in hot every now and again?
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Mike Davis
Yeah. Article3project.org, Article3project.org donate follow us on Social media the action item again for Take Action is for Colorado residents to contact Governor Jared Paulus, tell him to take off Jenna Griswold's ball gag and commute the sentence of Tina Peters. She has suffered enough. Get her out of prison and get her out of prison now.
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Steve Bannon
Mike, if we don't have you back on over the next couple days, have a great Easter. Thank you so much for spending some time.
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Mike Davis
Happy Easter to you, to the world. Thank you, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Let's play. I want to play the clip before I bring in Apollo. Can I play the. Let's play the Tina Peters clip and I'll bring Apollo Pappas.
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Cancer Survivor / Advocate
Well, tomorrow we should know the outcome on the recent hearing about clemency for former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters. The announcement was made today in an email sent out by the Colorado Court of Appeals. Questions on clemency for Peters was suggested by Governor Polis in a social media post back on March 3rd and calls for her release by President Trump. Peters is currently serving a nine year sentence at a detention facility in Pueblo. The announcement is supposed to happen tomorrow morning at 9.
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Steve Bannon
Apollo. Well, we had that. They remanded it back to the district court. You've heard Mike, Mike had an analysis this morning and this afternoon about this. He's very focused on this and quite angry with this judge. But we are where we are. Your assessment, you host her show, you're one of her closest advisors. Tell us what you guys are thinking right now.
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Apollo Pappas
Well, honestly, I agree with a lot of what Mike said. This is still a Grave injustice. The remanding back to the trial court is at once a great victory for Tina in the sense that it recognized how grave an issue her sentencing was by Judge Barrett specifically stating that he was sentencing her because of her speech and because she would continue to speak. And that was a greater danger to the public than violent offenders. Those are his actual words. Now, the court did point that out and was very specific. They had no choice but to remand it back and overturn the sentencing. So on the free speech issue, this is, it's very good for Tina. It's a good precedent for all Coloradans. It's an issue because they essentially affirmed the prosecution itself and that's where the biggest gap is right now. So we're hoping that she can be released quickly. But the prosecution itself is using this right now. Jenna Griswold, DA Dan Rubenstein, and, you know, these other Democrat ridiculous demons. And they're saying basically that it's a victory for the prosecution and they're using it to say everything was handled right and it was a minor issue. It was not a minor issue. It was foundational, fundamental First Amendment violations that never should happen. And it's a terrible look for the state of Colorado. And I think Jared Polis needs to take this opportunity since he already himself made the comparison to the probationary sentence from his friend Sonia. He should take this opportunity right now, let Tina Peters out, commute her sentence so she doesn't have to go back to that demons courtroom and her attorneys have to go through another circus just to get her to be heard fairly. On what should be a minor issue for a first time nonviolent offender like Tina in a trial that was at best a show trial and malicious prosecution. And I do mean at best. Steve,
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Steve Bannon
hold. You're going to stick with me because I want to get, when you come back, I want to talk about what they did, affirm why that's egregious and why Jenna Griswold and remember Jenner Griswold, Weiser, they're all trying to get higher office. So they're using Tina Peters with the rabbit left in Colorado and nationwide because they raise money off her name all the time. Why is that? Because Tina Peters, like Mike Lindell and so many people, the people in Georgia, so many people in Maricopa county, these great warriors that fought to show that the 2020 election was stolen, they have to be jailed, they have to be bankrupted, they have to be othered. This is the entire, this is this entire thing because they understand that when we prove and we have the evidence there, once you get the evidence, you prove that the 2020 election was stolen, the whole thing falls apart. Their entire apparatus falls apart and they will do anything including putting a Gold Star mother into prison. Birch Gold the Books the End of the Dollar Empire. It's been such a huge demand for the print edition Patriots edition during backorder. So what we should recommend is or what we are recommending. In fact what I'm gonna do is recommend it when we come back from the break. Give us a minute.
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Stephen K. Bannon (Sponsor Reads)
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Martha Stewart
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Cancer Survivor / Advocate
I need to be healthy every day to survive it and go through the next Chemaran and the next Chemo round. So it's important that work was part of that to keep my mind busy for 89 hours and then I had to go back and face the reality. I had a goal and the goal is to Survive.
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Mike Davis
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Steve Bannon
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Apollo Pappas
Well, let me speak about. First of all, the court said that his sentencing was based on improper consideration of her right to free speech. It punished her based on that speech, went beyond relevant considerations for the charges, and they were very scathing about that part. There's a big miss here, though. In addition to the fact that he did so clearly violated her constitutional rights, there was the sentencing of consecutive sentences, an additional six month, and the, the probation afterwards or the parole. All of these things are completely egregious. But the thing that is missed in here, most importantly with regards to what they affirmed being the convictions in the trial court, is they said Judge Barrett violated her free speech. But that didn't include during her trial, Tina Peters was never allowed to mount a defense. She was barred during the trial and the jury was prevented from hearing any testimony regarding the Supremacy Clause. Her ability to do her duty and back up records. So many things that were critical to her being able to speak to her defense in the first place were never allowed into the trial and Tina was not allowed to speak about them. So there's a huge disconnect when they say that Judge Barrett violated her free speech. That is a victory. And the fact that they'll set it back to that man is egregious in and of itself, but it doesn't fix the problem. The real issue is that Jenna Griswold, who is running for AG and of course wants to look tough. Jared Polis doesn't want to get chewed apart because he wants to be president. As you said, they're all using this to dance on her name because they want to look like serious candidates. And they were all part of Griswold, the prosecutor Shapiro, DA Dan Rubenstein, the officials in Mesa county, and Judge Barrett. They should be investigated because it was a malicious prosecution and they were essentially part of a RICO operation, running election fraud and running off with the money. And they needed to take down Tina Peters. And that's exactly what her prosecution was. It was a show trial meant to cover their asses and, and make her a martyr, make her a symbol because she had the goods showing what they were doing to rip off the American people. So her free speech has been vindicated on one hand, but it's far from enough. She has a very long fight ahead of her even now with several of those issues which look like they're going to go to scotus. And the Democrats here certainly don't want to let it go because they know that their house of cards falls as soon as Tina comes out on top.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on. I'm gonna hold you over to the 6 o' clock because I want to make sure we make a proper presentation so people can come over and support you and get more information. So Apollo, hang on. Mike Lindell, before we punch out of the five o', clock, I want to get you on. You've been very close to the Tina Peters situation. They've come after you. Thoughts on that? And then on this Holy Thursday, before we go into the weekend, talk to me about a deal.
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Mike Lindell
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