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Rosemary Jenks
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Laura Ingraham
And where do people like that go to share the big L Maga Media. I wish in my soul, I wish
Steve Bannon
that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It is Thursday, April, the 9th of April, in the year of our Lord 2026. Eric Bolling, thank you for sticking with us. We're going to go back to the broader war now, not just the one that's inside our wire. So oil.com, oilprice.com those guys are interested in oil and they're interested in money. Right. They're not really political. They do make a lot of discussion about politics related to oil. But you go to oilprice.com to really get up to speed. It's one of the sites you go to to get kind of information. Correct. Am I right about that?
Eric Bolling
Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. I wouldn't say it's in depth, but you definitely get a much better view of what's going on in the oil market than watching cnbc, certainly. But yeah, again they deal with futures prices, which is all that's traded in New York. I deal with people who are actually refiners, producers, transporters, and those are the folks who really going on in the oil markets. Those are the ones who tell me and again, some of them benefit from higher prices, some of them benefit. The refiners benefit from lower prices. And I get the same answer time and time again. We're headed higher. Honestly, I don't. Where's the end? Where is the end? J.D. vance and Islamabad Iranians want to control the strait. How about this? How about none of it really matters to us? We get a lot of most of our imported oil. We have about a 7 million deficit per day. We get a lot most of that from Mexico, Canada and we have Venezuela at our fingertips to make up the balance. Just whatever negative would come out of him, out of us saying, you know what, your ball. We're going to go bring oil Prices down. Oh, he didn't follow through. Who the hell cares? The American public will be happy because gas prices will come down. Certainly happy coming into an election cycle as important as this one.
Steve Bannon
Okay, let me. Let me just quote from this. Tehran takes the straight in the premium. At the same time, control of physical flows have been fully taken by Tehran. Satellite tracking between 1 March and 7 April shows only 92 tankers carrying crude, refined products and liquefied natural gas leaving the Gulf through the Strait of horrors, of which 60 were either Iranian owned or transporting Iranian cargo. Among the remaining 32 vessels, roughly one third were destined for India. The implication is clear. The strait has not been formally closed, but it has been operationally nationalized. Now, you keep talking about the oil markets. Totally fungible. Do we actually have the option if we were to walk away? Because yesterday, I think in the NATO meeting, the NATO General Secretary, who President Trump was very close to, he likes this guy a lot. And they really worked together well to try to get the European nations to meet the bare minimum of their financial commitments to really building independent armed forces that can work together in what is called an alliance. And I believe part of the bad news was he just said, look, these people don't have the political will. But more importantly, they don't. They. If they haven't invested in their armed forces, where they really cut it is in their navies. The Royal Navy is a mere shadow of itself. The French Navy is not anything what it was. The Italian Navy is tied up not stopping migrants from coming from North Africa into Italy. So they really not going to be of much help here. Do we really have. Since you keep telling me the market's fungible, Is it a possibility? Is it actually, do we have an option of not having the Navy go in and open this up to say, you know what, pox in all your houses. We're out the straight of her moves is your problem. You go fix it. Because if you tell them it's their problem, even with Japan and the South Korean Navy, which punch way above their weights, there's just not. Just not a. It's just not possible for those people to keep it open over a long period of time. They just don't have the resources and the maritime capabilities, sir.
Eric Bolling
Okay, so, Steve, very, very little of our oil petroleum comes through the Strait of Hormuz. Yes, we do get helium. We get some byproducts, jet fuel, butane. But it's a tiny fraction of what we use and certainly what we import. That comes from friendlier countries. I'm just trying to figure out why we are risking billions upon billions of dollars. Trump is risking his kind of reputation as a badass globally if he backs down to this little Iran military that we allegedly have obliterated. Why do they still have the strength? How about you just go, you know what? It's not our fight. You deal with it. Europe, you're at risk. Asia, you're at risk. You guys deal with it. It's not going to affect our. It does to a certain extent. When I say fungible, it's like money. It's all oil. But in order for it to be perfectly fungible, the Middle Eastern oil would have to spike $50, $60 a barrel higher than the West Texas Intermediate, which is not going to happen. If it does, it'll come back down. And it would take that much to make up the difference of transportation and the cost of retooling a refinery. And no one's going to do that because the minute it comes in conjunction again back to where it was, they have to retool the refinery back to the. To their own Middle Eastern crude again. It's fungible, but not perfectly fungible like money. So my point is, we. This is not our fight. Listen, you want to what? You know, what was our fight? Obliterating their ability to deliver a nuclear weapon. And allegedly, according to everyone, including everyone you talk to, even the other side, we've done that. We've blown them into the dark ages as far as being able to prohibit them from delivering a nuclear weapon to the United States if they started up again, bomb the facilities again, they'll never get it. But there's. I see no reason, other than saving face to stay to play this game about the straight of hormones. Do you know how long they would charge $2 or a dollar a barrel in the straight if we weren't playing ball with them? About five minutes. Because India, Asia, Japan, Europe, they'd all say, screw you. No, we're not going to pay your dollar per barrel. I mean, remember, a typical oil tanker through that, that straight is 2 million barrels. There's big ones with 4 million. So every oil tanker at 2 million, a big one at 4 million, there's at some point they're going to say, screw you, Iran. No, we're not playing this game anymore. Supply and demand. See, money always, always slicks. The easiest path, and the easiest path is for. Is when we get out. Right now, us staying in there is more bullish to the oil market than us just leaving. Now, I get it. You know Trump, I know him as I know him a long time. You know him better. Can he do that and still feel like he, you know, he has a way of declaring a victory on things and he should just do that. We pull out. We eliminate objective met. No more nukes. You guys play around. You guys deal with the lunatics trying to charge you more for oil.
Steve Bannon
Eric, where do people get you back here at 4 o'? Clock? We'll do a changeover today. Handoff. What your social media and your other show. Where do people go?
Eric Bolling
Eric Bolling. Across all social media platforms and YouTube is where you get the edge, which is non political about male performance. But this is too big of a moment in time. I think these discussions, Steve, that we're doing it in the morning and in the afternoon are, are highly needed for the folks who realize exactly what's going on out there. Again, watch War Room. You find out what's going to happen next. Watch Fox. You find out about puppies cooking segments and what just happened.
Steve Bannon
We get, we, we commit to the audience. There'll be no puppies on War Room. Okay. The Eric Bolling I remember. I remember. I remember the old Navy. My kid brother's a naval aid air. They had a recruiting poster, right? Sign up or we'll shoot the dog. And they had the thing, the gun to the dog's head. I guess that was funny back in the 1980s. Maybe now people take umbrage with it. Thank you so much, Eric Bolling. See you this afternoon. I still my argument. Thayer's going to join us in a second about Napoleon. He would scale up. He said he can't fix. He'd tell his marshals he can't fix the problem you got now take it to the next scale. Fix it there, but fix it. If you're going to set out to take Vienna, take Vienna. I'm more and more, I'm just saying why deal with these intermediaries that are lying and retrading you at every possibility. And this is why we have all this confusion. Just say, hey look, we'll stand down if we have to, like we are until May. And we'll meet with the Chinese cameras probably we'll go principal to principal. President Trump in the room with Xi. This is cut out all the middlemen, particularly the Pakistanis. Cut them out. Cut out the Revolutionary Guard. They're only living on the cash that the and I believe support for their weapons systems that the Chinese Communist Party have given them. Chinese played their card. They're very involved here as we knew and said the entire time. So let's deal. President Trump principal to Principle Xi. We're gonna get back to that in a second. By the way, Birch gold, now more than ever, learn about why the dollar is the prime reserve currency and what that means, the responsibilities and the obligations of that. We've got a great free eighth installment in the end of the dollar empire. Go birchgold.com, promo code Bannon Endothedollar Empire. Get the eighth, immerse yourself in it, then talk to Philip Patri and the team. In times of turbulence, gold has been a hedge for thousands of years. Find out why and find out why it's inextricably linked to the US Dollar. And it's not, should not be lost on you. They're trying to get that toll paid in the, in the Strait of Hormuz, in Chinese currency. In the risk that they're taking in Chinese currency, they've also done it well, maybe doing crypto, too. That's how dicey the Chinese currency is. That's how they're trying to force it into the situation, to break the petrodollar. You learn all about this with talking to Philip Patrick's team at Birchgold. Do it today. Brandon Hall, I just had Chip Roy on here. We're talking about the geopolitics of the world and this fight and the negotiation, and President Trump's got this strategy and he's hammering away and he's getting hammered. But to me, the bigger fight and the urgency and the emergency and the imminent threat. The imminent threat ain't coming from Tehran, folks. Not buying it. Haven't bought it from the beginning, not buying it now. Imminent threat is coming from CARE and these Muslims down in the great state of Texas, and they're on a march. And as I said, it's not about whether the Revolutionary Guard and the mullahs and whoever's left as the ayatollahs and those guys are winning or not. They think they're winning. They believe they're winning, and they believe they have the initiative in the great state of Texas, even with what we did on Proposition 10 and other people coming to the barricades now. And you see, when we did a call to action, so many patriots turned up to stand in front of the microphone and have their voices heard in this Texas education board. You've got a terrorist organization in CAIR that is rallying their people, and they believe they are winning. Let me repeat that. They believe in their heart of hearts they're winning and they believe that they can see down a decade or two where the state of Texas is part of Islamic republic that's called the United States of America. That's their plan, and they think they're on a path to execute on that plan. Brandon hall, how are we doing down in Texas, sir?
Brandon Hall
Well, you're absolutely right that they do believe that they're winning. But I'll tell you, Steve, their plan to take over this state, the state of Texas in our nation, it stops right here at the State Board of Education, because we're going to make sure not only are we going to play the defensive game and make sure that they don't infiltrate our curriculum here in the state of Texas, we're actually going on the offense to erase historical revision that's been in our textbooks for a long time. That erases the Christian foundation of our country. They want that Christian foundation erased. They want to paint our founding fathers as racist and Manifest destiny is bad, so they can create a void that they can slip into. But I'm happy to report to you, the war Room posse showed up in a big way this week. And I'm happy to tell you, Steve, it's actually working. We're still fighting through this. We're still debating it. We're only on second grade right now, so we have to finish everything else today. We've been working very hard on this, but I'm very pleased with the direction things are headed right now. And a lot of that is because of the attention that you've put on this and the great patriots in the war Room posse.
Steve Bannon
Well, let me talk about. We got a minute. I want to hold you through this. It's, look, we got the easiest job in the world. We meet people like you, we see these causes, we just cut the microphone on, and then it's the agency people using their agency. Tell me what the difference was when you saw these patriots come to the microphone in Austin the last couple days versus what we saw back, I think in October, November, when 91 people showed up and 89 of them were Islamists, sir.
Brandon Hall
Yeah, we did have over 91 testifiers back in August and November. And, you know, care has been showing up time after time. Designated foreign terrorist organization. So the room will be full of their people, and we'll have, like, one or two patriots that sign up to talk. And so the media portrays it as everybody wants, you know, the CARE curriculum, and everybody wants what they're trying to do. And now our side actually overwhelms the other side. And so people see, actually patriots in the state of Texas, they want true, accurate, patriotic history. That's Texas and America first.
Steve Bannon
Brandon, hang on for a second. I'm gonna hold you the break. Lesson from Texas, you are the Calvary. You are the ones in this audience. You're coming for the besieged homesteaders. It's like a John Ford movie. You're the heroes. And we can win if we don't quit. Short break. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. The MAGA movement is a grassroots movement. We win when the grassroots are motivated and take action and people use their human agency, full stop. We have a long history of doing that since President Trump came on the scene. We have a long history of doing that and even beforehand with the Tea Party. But President Trump took us 30 years into the future by him stepping in and walking away from his business and walking away from his media empire and business empire and all that. But the lesson is the. And this is why they haven't been able to replace Trump or the Republican establishment are dying to do it because they can't get to low propensity, low information voters. And it's not that people don't. A lot of people in these countries don't care about politics. It's just not part of their life. Now, those who understand that something's wrong with the country respond to President Trump and respond to the MAGA movement. And you can see whether it's the Commonwealth of Virginia or the state of Georgia or what's happening in Texas with Ken Paxton, I can speak dozens and dozens and dozens of examples of what's going on in this country. You know Steve Stern, the precinct strategy. Yes. And we're not winning every day because you're not going to win every day. History shows you. Human nature shows you're not going to win every day. You're just not. The key is to be resilient, to be antifragile. Right. You know what's kind of antifragile? Who's resilient? Those Persians that are dug in over there in Tehran. Face facts. They're resilient. They took a bombing. They've taken a bombing that's virtually unprecedented for its concentration, probably in human history. And if it's not, you got to compare that to what we did over Nazi Germany and how we firebombed Tokyo. And those are pretty extreme examples. Our movement is absolutely antifragile, absolutely resilient. And we have a history. If we don't quit, we eventually win. Nothing that we're doing now or working on, including in Tehran, including in the Strait or Hormuz is more important than what is happening at a deck plate level in the state of Texas. Because the enemies of this republic, and they are enemies, the enemies of this republic have targeted Texas as the jewel in the crown of this union. And they are very focused because the economy and the people and everything they've targeted and the lesson that we're learning, and you've learned this the last couple of days of the Texas Education Board, you are the Calvary. There's nobody else coming to save us. The people coming to save us. Are you in this audience and you saw it the last couple of days. This Texas Education Board is fascinating because you have an open mic. People can come and give their opinions. And the flooding of the zone of grassroots people from their heart. You don't need a PhD in education. You don't need to have gone to an Ivy League college. Hell, you're a Texan. Just come up and tell us the way it is. And it was so powerful, Brandon, this is what's given you guys momentum to sort this out. Now, I guess we're going to go all the way through today and into tomorrow till we finally put this to bed. And this will be a crushing blow to the Islamists because they thought they had a victory and they thought they had a victory because people just aren't paying attention. They got too much to do in their lives. But once you put the spotlight on this, patriots sit there and go, I'm not going to let that happen. Number one, I'm not going to let it happen to my kids and grandkids. But more importantly, I have an obligation to everybody that came to that state and worked for decades and decades and decades to make it the jewel of the crown. Because if you've gone through Texas and traveled through Texas, you understand there's a couple parts of that state that you don't come to mind that we can turn this into an economic paradise. Brandon hall, your thoughts, sir?
Brandon Hall
Yeah, Steve, I think you're absolutely right. We're working on history standards right now. But someday the history books are going to be written about what happened when the Islamists showed up in America and Texas to take over. And I think what the history books are going to say is that the state of Texas woke up before it was too late. And we took our history back, we took our country back. And we're actually going to promote patriotism in America first to our children and their incredible history. Because history is such a gift that we have to give to our children, their Heritage is Americans and. The people who won two world wars back to back.
Steve Bannon
Yes sir.
Brandon Hall
They can find, they can find me at Brandon Hall TX. They can go to sdoe.texas.gov
Eric Bolling
yeah.
Steve Bannon
Are you putting up real time? Because this thing's going to correct me if I'm going to go through today and it's going to continue into tomorrow.
Brandon Hall
We will get an initial vote by the end of today. It might go pretty late but we'll have an initial vote by the end of today.
Steve Bannon
And you'll keep us up to speed? We'll get you in the afternoon but you'll keep us up to speed on social media about what's going on?
Brandon Hall
Sure will. And you can go to sbwe.texas.gov to follow along on the live stream as well.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Let's get that Grayson Mo. If we put that live stream up, I want to follow that today. Thank you, sir. Great patriots, sir. It's the little guy that has driven. We've had great leaders. We've had tremendous leaders in this country. Just been incredible. You go back and look at the history of this country though it is when the little guy puts it on their shoulders. The man and woman out there, the silent majority that we've had from time immemorial and particularly at the American Revolution when they put it on their shoulders, guess what? We win because these are tough people. Okay. I've got a lot to do in limited time to do it. Let's play. I got Rosemary Jenks. You gotta understand there's an amnesty bell out there folks driven by Republicans. Let's see Laura Ingraham talking to one of the biggest wimps in the House. And then we'll bring Rosemary in documented
Laura Ingraham
and no matter what. Do you mean how,
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
you've got to stop using the legally here, right? This, this in the shadows. They're not legally here dealing with this for 25 years. I don't know what shadows you're looking at but they're not in the shadows. They're working in restaurants. Some are.
Laura Ingraham
Others are of course many, many of
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
them fraud in California. But this idea, that's why this bill given amnesty. They're not already given amnesty. Why do you come on television and say that the president has been trying to remove people from this country. The only reason they're not being removed is because we don't have strong Democrats and Republicans to support it.
Laura Ingraham
No, Laura, criminal aliens 100% should be removed from this country. Period. And the bill provides for that. I don't want anyone to getting a Waiver. I don't want anyone getting a free
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
pass in the legislation.
Laura Ingraham
If you have committed. You have committed a crime. Yes, I have, Laura. If you have committed a crime, you should be removed from the country. Period. Number. Number two, what we are trying to do is say if you have been in the country for more than five years, in other words, if you came here during Joe Biden's administration, you don't qualify. You determine, don't qualify under this legislation.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
All of this sounds great. It's.
Laura Ingraham
It's very clear question. It's very clear. You have to be in the country before 2020. Yeah, you have to be in the country before 2020. So anybody who came, please. All right.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
Please determine. Please tell my audience. Because they're very smart.
Eric Bolling
Yep.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
How does an immigration officer determine millions and millions determine continuous presence. And tell me the considerations they take into account to determine that.
Laura Ingraham
Well, look, if they, if they cannot prove that, if they cannot prove continuous presence, they wouldn't qualify for this. You have to be able to show to meet the. I just asked you a question.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
How do you determine it?
Laura Ingraham
You have to be able to meet the qualifications of the program. And that means the Department of Homeland Security is going to deter. They are going to make the determination. Determination as they always have rules based on the current structure and guidelines that are in place. But the bottom line here, Congressman, you can I make a few points because this actually matters. Yeah. E Verify is part of the bill.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
You bet it does.
Laura Ingraham
Okay, so you actually, you. And it's part of the bill. And we want to verify that every single person who would be employed in this country is here legally. If you're not verified, you wouldn't be able to lawfully work, and we would hold those businesses accountable. The bottom line of the Dignity act is very straightforward. You have to be in the country for more than five years. You cannot have committed a crime. You cannot collect government.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
Okay, That's.
Laura Ingraham
You have to pay a fine. You must pay back taxes. It's not false, Laura. You must pay back taxes, Congressman, and you must be employed. Those are the terms here. Here's the terms.
Congressman (unnamed, possibly a Democrat)
Congressman, you know how much I like you, but you can't come on this show and say to my audience that you canyou canyou can't have committed a crime to be eligible under the, quote, dignity act, because there are several crimes that are, quote, nonviolent that do not qualify for inadmissibility. And on top of that, there, there are multiple instances, including family unity, public interest, and just discretion on the part of immigration officers. I can't imagine Democrat immigration officers under a Democrat president in the future was going to hold this strict. You know, we're not going to let any criminals in gang member affiliation wide latitude.
Laura Ingraham
They're going to do.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, let me have it. You got the happy talk and then you got Laura trying to field strip this guy and she is, I, I like Laura a lot. She's a tough broad. And you see it right there. I got another tough broad, Rosemary Jenks. Rosemary, this thing's an abomination, right? This is an insult in the middle of all the fights we got now we got an amnesty bill. We got a minute here and then I'm gonna hold you through the break. Can you tell folks how awful this thing is, ma'? Am?
Rosemary Jenks
Yeah, this is, it's ridiculous. Steve. There are 20 Republicans led by Salazar, Maria Salazar and Mike Lawler who are basically passing off this dignity act which should be called the SAW act for Screw All American Workers. That's what it should be called because that's what it does. It screws low wage workers. With mass amnesty. More than 10 million illegal aliens would get amnesty and then their families would start coming in. But it also blows open the door on higher skilled immigration. It more than doubles employment based green cards. It says that if you have a STEM degree, if you're a foreigner who gets a STEM degree in the United States, then you get to stay. You know, it, it is screwing every level of American workers and they're, you know, screaming and yelling, it's not amnesty. It's not amnesty. Yes, it is amnesty. It is mass amnesty and it is mass immigration. And it would end deportations for a minimum of two years. ICE could not deport any illegal alien for at least two years to give them all a chance to apply for their amnesty. It's lunacy.
Steve Bannon
Rosemary Hanger, for one second, this is what you're dealing with, folks. But that's reality. You've got to combat it. Short break, Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. While we're talking about Texas and immigration, Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot call. Today you're going to talk to their call center, somebody with an East Texas accent that's going to walk you through all the benefits and why they're the best phone service in the world. Just remember, you wouldn't be having this. We wouldn't be able to mount this defense in Texas if it was not for Glenn's story and Jenny's story, who are two just extraordinary individuals. This company is based on Christian values, supports the causes you think are important. And this also happens to be the best phone service out there. So call 972 Patriot and do that today. Make sure that you talk to the folks. They'll tell you about it and you get a free month if you tell them. From the War Room. Two other things. Number one, Medicare complicated. Getting more complicated articles out every day. End the confusion. A data company called Chapter is prepared at 845-war- Room. That's a free no obligation consultation. They will walk you through your plan. If you're not on a plan, they'll go through various alternatives. If you're on a plan they'll break it down for you about how you can make it better. 8:4:5 War Room. The feedback we've gotten from the War Room posse is extraordinary. I think they've saved people on average 1100 bucks plus got them out of plans that are just ridiculous. That's chapter at 845-war- Room. Do it today. Rosemary Jenks. I just want to hit rewind for a moment and just go back. You say this is screw American workers bill. Just take a minute or two and go back through this thing because a lot of people are just hearing about this and I'm going to talk at the end about why this is a legislative possibility. What they can do because you've had 20 Republicans not squishes. These are people that are traitors. Right. Led by Salazar and Lawler who are two of the worst. Salazar is probably worse than Lawlor. Walk me through just once again why you call it the screw America worker, the SAW bill.
Rosemary Jenks
Yeah. Because every level of American worker, whether you're low wage, medium wage or high wage, you will be screwed. Screwed by this bill. It screws American low wage workers with mass amnesty of more than 10 million illegal aliens who would get permanent right to be here and legal permission to work. It screws mid and high wage American workers by more than doubling green cards for employment based immigrants. It blows open the, the door for high tech American workers. It codifies optional practical training opt. It allows anyone who, any foreigner who gets a STEM degree in the United States to stay permanently. I mean the, the damage that this bill would do to American workers is unfathomable. This is, you know, Lawler says well if the, if we don't pass this now the Democrats will pass amnesty. This is the Democrats amnesty bill. It's mass amnesty, mass immigration and zero deportations. Because as the amnesty starts ICE would not be allowed to deport a single illegal alien. Hey for at least two years while they have A chance.
Steve Bannon
Salazar, Salazar, Salazar and Lawler. I want you to suck on this. And why? You're traitors and you ought to be run out. They got to be turfed out of Congress. She's worse than he is and he's terrible, but all 20.
Rosemary Jenks
The other thing, Steve, is we need.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, go ahead, ma'. Am.
Rosemary Jenks
They claim that they have zero tolerance for criminal aliens in this bill, and that is an absolute fabrication. The bill includes very specific waivers for criminals. If you're convicted of multiple misdemeanors, you get a waiver. If you've been deported, you get to come back and apply for amnesty. If you illegally voted, you get a waiver. So this. If you're in a state or federal gang database, that information can't be used against you. This is lunacy. Oh, and by the way, it also gives amnesty to all of the employers who have been hiring all of the illegal aliens because none of the information in their applications can be used to hold the employers accountable. It's disgusting.
Steve Bannon
Okay, I'll do a rant this afternoon when I can have a couple more warpath coffees, get jacked up and come in hot. But Rosemary, most importantly for this audience, because we immerse them in information and then they can use their agency. Where do they go to you, because you've dedicated your life to this. You're one of the great patriots in this country. Compare her to Salazar. Rosemary Jenks has defended American workers from the first time I met her, years ago, decades ago. So where do they go today to find out about this bill and the lies? But look, I don't want to hear about criminal aliens and bad guys. Yes, of course we're gonna get the bad guys out, but that's just a SOP So people sit there, go. No mass deportations. We're gonna deport all of them. Every one of them. They're all gonna go. They all have to go. And we should have a tension. Stop all these scams, like the H1B scam. Stop it. Send them all home in a 10 year minimum, 10 year moratorium on all immigration. Then we got time to kind of set this thing up, sort it out, make sure American workers are the priority above all, and set up an immigration system that's kind of fair, but it's going to take a decade to do that, and we need a timeout. Rosemary Jenks. Where do people go today?
Rosemary Jenks
If you go to iaproject.org, iaproject.org we have a fact sheet. If you type in the search bar, Salazar or or Lawler, you'll find a list of the bills that they have sponsored. And the Dignity act is one of those. We have fact sheets on it. We explain all the things that they're lying about. So iaproject.org or follow us on X@iaproject.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. You're amazing, Rosemary. Thank you. Get it today. Immerse yourself in the information. Then I'll have a great rant on this this afternoon. Thank you, ma'. Am. Appreciate you. Dr. Thayer, kind of one of our resident strategists, I want you to go back. You mentioned something on this show a couple weeks ago about Napoleon. Talk to me about when Napoleon had problems that looked like they were like Gordian Nacho couldn't do it. He would say, I want you to scale this. He would tell his marshals, first off, he says, it's your thing that you got to figure it out. It ain't my job to figure it out. It's your job to figure out. He would tell him, scale up your problem. Talk to me about that and specifically apply it to the current situation in the Persian Gulf, in the Strait of Hormuz, in the entire war with Iran right now, sir.
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, Steve, thanks for having me today. What Napoleon did is recognize the logic of escalation, that with a great coterie of marshals as he had marshals and generals, these were individuals who could be trusted and they could be trusted to execute his vision of the plan. He had the objective and he was confident in assigning them their missions, knowing that they would be completed. He also emphasized the importance of focusing on the objective. Very importantly, there's one thing on which to focus and that's going to have to be changed, achieved. Final point with respect to Napoleon is that he recognized that he was the master of improvisation. And here he reminds me so much of Trump. Napoleon said the battle begins and the issue develops. And what he meant by that is he's going to start the battle, he's going to start the campaign. But because Napoleon was a master in art of the deal, he was a master, essentially a with a mind for war, genius for war. He was always going to be able to out fight his opponent who didn't have Napoleon's skills, didn't have Napoleon's abilities. So if we apply that to Iran today, what do we see? We see that President Trump is recognizing that however valuable the Iranians are as interlocked marketers, Beijing is going to really decide this issue, that China has a dominant voice, an important if not dominant voice in Tehran. So the question of who rules in Tehran is going to be decided in large measure by Xi Jinping because of the dependence of Iran on communist China. So President Trump is recognizing that if he takes this to be resolved with Xi Jinping, as you've suggested, that has advantages for the United States. There is a modest coincidence of interest here that Beijing wants oil out of the strait as the US Wants the strait open. President Trump, like Napoleon, is a master of the deal. They both have a genius for, for war in their respective fields. Right. Napoleon, obviously kinetic Trump in everything else as well as the kinetic. So he's going to be able to out fight Xi Jinping and get him to place the appropriate pressure on Tehran. At the same time, there's US Military might and US Military in theater, obviously that could be called, called upon equally to go back to the kinetic, to go back to warfare, if that's going to be required. So we want to recognize, I think, the similarities between those individuals and to recognize that President Trump, again a master dealmaker, is going to be able to ensure that he's using Beijing to put pressure on Tehran to bring to resolution the issues that we have at hand and to ensure that the fragile pieces.
Steve Bannon
Look, first off, the history of the Persians. The Persians have been negotiating for, I don't know, 3,000 years. They fought the Greeks, they fought the Romans and now they got the Americans as the. Also the British, I guess the British were subterfuge and the Americans, so they've taken on the best of the West. Right. These guys also have a bureaucracy that goes back long before the mullahs. They're kind of an organized hierarchical society as far as this goes. And they have a way of negotiating which is just to tap you along. History shows it's just to tap you along. Why? Given the fact that we've defanged them and declawed them a lot and our military operation go through the punch list has been very successful. I just don't know now because they're double dealing you all the time. You see it even the beginning stages of this ceasefire where they're putting out this maximalist thing which President Trump said, I do it in the trash can and you guys are lying because we're actually dealing with another document and we're pretty far down. We've at least got some sort of basis of agreement. They're just going to. All they're going to do is observe and lie constantly. And the powers. This is a great power. You've told me, hey, the whole world is shifted now from the global war on terror to a great power struggle, particularly the two great powers, the Chinese Communist Party in the United States of America. And this is a global conflict. And they are so far deeper inside the wire here than we are there. So they're inside the wire taking this fight to us here every day at universities on Capitol Hill, on Sequoia Capital, the premier venture capital firm. You look at finance, you look at all of it. They're deep inside of here, and they also think they're winning. So why wouldn't we have Trump, who's the master dealmaker and China's always been his central thesis, particularly how he's running him out of the Western Hemisphere. And just have a mano a mano with xi in Beijing May 13. It's on the books.
Taj Gill
I don't know why.
Steve Bannon
We're dealing with grundoons in Pakistan who are totally controlled by the CCP, 100%. And also they're Iranians. Just say, guys, let's put a pin in it. I'm going to deal with your paymaster and we'll figure something out. Dr. Thayer, your thoughts?
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, two thoughts, Steve. Most folks don't know that During World War II, Iran was occupied. The British took the southern half of Iran and the Soviets occupied the northern half of Iran. They didn't ask permission, they just occupied it. And the point of that was to ensure that aid, lend lease aid, could flow from ports on the Persian Gulf into the Soviet Union through the Caucasus. So the Soviets and the British just acted. They didn't ask Iranian permission. Likewise, British President Trump meeting with Xi. I think there's a strategic logic there. China has. Communist China has an interest in having this resolved so that they can have access to that oil. President Trump has. Beijing has real influence in Tehran. And so what Trump is doing is encircling them diplomatically. Right. You've got the Chinese working on the right flank and we're working on the left flank essentially to diplomatically encircle Tehran.
Steve Bannon
Dr. Thayer, hang on one second. We're taking a short commercial break. Scott Besson is talking about a naval quarantine in the Gulf Oman. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, scaling up the problem. Dr. Thayer, thank you so much for your thoughts. I'm going to have you back on. We're going to drill down this more of Napoleon and Trump and how do we think through this situation? We're currently. I love that the battle begins and the issue develops. Napoleon had a certain way of saying things. It was great, doc. Where do we go to get your writings until we get you back on.
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Oh, Steve at Brad Thayer at X and Bradley Thayer at Getter and Truth. Thanks very much.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Thank you for taking time. I know you're over at cpi, the great group that coordinates so much activity. They're absolutely spectacular. What Senator DeMint and Mark Meadows have done is just absolutely, absolutely extraordinary. Talking about scaling up. Okay, two things I want to make sure everybody goes. These are free consultations. Whether it's Tax Network USA or chapter, you get a free consultation. So take advantage of it. Call 845-WAR-ROOM. It couldn't be simpler. You get on a phone with one of their advisors, you walk through everything of where your situation is with Medicare. You do it. It's very confusing. It's meant to be confusing. These guys don't come in from a health care perspective. They are coming. They are a data driven company because they've looked at all with the hundreds of thousands of perturbations on this Medicare, which is so confusing. That's why you need to talk to experts and they'll lay everything out in front of you. 845 war room. Also all Family Pharmacy. The feedback we've gotten on this from the War Room is fantastic. These are guys looking for your medical freedom to do that. It's not just taking on big pharma, but you have to do it through the distribution system, these big drug chains and of course the middlemen, the McKesson's of the world. Get your freedom today. And the way you do it, you can go talk to them for free also. And you just check it out. You can compare and Contrast. They have 400, I think, available medicines, vitamins, all of it. And they got licensed professionals, pharmacists, licensed medical professionals that can give you the prescriptions that you need. But you got to start the process. AllFamilyPharmacy.com go check it out. They use Bannon code 10, 10% discount plus they're passing on the overhead savings to you. So go check it out. It's totally free. Go check it out. See if it works for you. All Family Pharmacy. That's all one word. Allfamilypharmacy.com, promo code Bannon 10. You get 10% off. So talk to those folks today. Taj Gill, thank you for joining us. Taj, I know you've got many of your colleagues and comrades and compatriots that have served over there that are very upset about what's going on. But today, hold it. Full stop. Taj Gil did you shave?
Taj Gill
I did shave, dude. Spring shaving.
Steve Bannon
Taj, you look like you're about 11. Where's my Tage? Where's my warrior Tay? What the hell's going on? Did your wife make you do that? Or is that. Is that just a spring cleanup, or what are you doing here?
Taj Gill
Yeah, it's just a spring cleanup. It's spontaneous, and it's like, hey, I'm gonna shave.
Steve Bannon
I should let you know, I knew Taj for about a decade. He was my head of security. I knew him for about a decade, and one day, Tej, I guess, shaved and showed up. I didn't know who this guy was. Say, hey, who's this new guy over there? They go, that's Taj. I go, holy. Imagine that beard is a serious beard. Tej, you're now a founder and creator of the best coffee company ever. And we know that 17,000 five star reviews. Don't take it from Beardless Tage and don't take it from Stephen K. Banner. Take it from folks that our war room posse members that have tasted it. Go. Just go to the website and read the comments. That's what's amazing. But, Tage, tell me about all the innovations. You've got a whole raft of new products. You got a whole raft of new flavors today. More than anything, brother, I'm telling you, through this show, I need to. I'm going to put on a fresh batch of warm coffee as soon as I get off here. And of course, my baby is the. Is the dark roast, because you guys took about two years to perfect this. And I absolutely love this talk to get a minute or two, tell us about the company, what you got, and why people should go check it out, particularly people that are not really coffee fans or think that you got to dump milk and sugar into coffee.
Taj Gill
Yep. We're rolling into year five, so people love it the way we roast it. We roast it on a perforated drum, and by doing that, we don't burn any of the beans, not even the tips of the beans. It's called tipping. So that's how we get that smooth taste of low acid content is from not burning the coffee. And people love it. You know, you don't need milk, you don't need sugar. You. You can actually enjoy the. The flavor of the coffee. So that's. That's. That's our selling point is, you know, drink it black. It's low acid content. It's the best coffee. And like you said, Steve, the Mariners blend, that's the most popular Everybody wants dark roast and people love our dark rose. It's. It's our best seller. You can drink the dark roast straight black. And we have it in K cups. We have it in ground. We got a whole bean, we got two pound bags. And then we have decaf. We have espresso, the summer blend. The summer blend is pretty amazing. That one has Jamaica blue mountain coffee in it and it's so smooth. I drink that stuff all day long. The summer blend, it's incredible and flavored. Our latest flavor we dropped was the salted caramel. And that one, that's dangerous. It's addicting. It's so good. It's so sweet. So if you're after a sweet coffee, try the salted caramel, the Italian frogman espresso. We did that so you can drink it straight black. We did a light espresso. It's still got a bite, it's still got a little bit of bitterness. But you can drink it straight black. You can actually enjoy the espresso real quickly.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go today and how they contact you?
Taj Gill
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Looks like lost him. Mike Lindell had to go last night in your governor's race. And what do you got? What deal you got for us today to close the show? We froze. I guess we're going to do it. I guess we're going to do it ourselves. And with Charlie Kirk. I tell you, we'll get Mike back up at 5 o' clock today. Go to go to mypillow.com promo code war room for all the sales, all the specials. The Charlie Kirk show is next. Oh, Mike Lindell, we got you. Maybe for 30 seconds. No, no guts. Okay, we're just take it. Just drop it. Charlie Kirk show is next. Posos. After that we're going to be back here. We'll do a turnover with bowling at between the 4 and 5 o' clock show. We will be back here at 5 o'.
Brandon Hall
Clock.
Steve Bannon
The show is going to be intense. I can already tell you we got something special cooked up in the 6 o' clock hour. You're not going to to want to miss it. Make sure you take your phone out though and Text Bannon at 989-898. Birch Gold's got a free no obligation small brochure that you can understand. Investing in golden precious metals in the age of Trump. Do it today. Talk to Philip Patrick. Team, we're back at five. Don't miss it. We're going to be on fire. We'll leave you with the right stuff. Charlie, Kurt next. We'll see you five.
Episode #5286 – April 9, 2026
In this episode, Steve Bannon hosts a high-energy discussion focused on three main themes:
Throughout, the discussion highlights the importance of grassroots activism, American resilience, and maintaining a strong national identity, while drawing parallels between historical and modern strategies.
Guests: Eric Bolling, Dr. Bradley Thayer
Market Dynamics & U.S. Interests
“Very, very little of our oil petroleum comes through the Strait of Hormuz... I see no reason, other than saving face, to play this game.” – Eric Bolling (05:05)
Iran’s Control & Geopolitical Chess
“This is not our fight … Supply and demand, see, money always, always slicks the easiest path… us staying in there is more bullish to the oil market than us just leaving.” – Eric Bolling (06:01)
Europe’s Weakness & Alliance Fatigue
China’s Role & the “Petrodollar”
Negotiation Strategy: Trump as the New Napoleon
“President Trump is recognizing... Beijing wants oil out of the strait as the US wants the strait open... Trump, like Napoleon, is a master of the deal.” – Dr. Bradley Thayer (34:02–36:38)
Guest: Brandon Hall
CAIR and “Islamist Infiltration” Claims
“The enemies of this republic have targeted Texas as the jewel in the crown... because of the economy and the people and everything they've targeted...” – Steve Bannon (17:00) “We're going to go on the offense to erase historical revision that's been in our textbooks...” – Brandon Hall (12:44)
Grassroots Patriot Response
“Now our side actually overwhelms the other side. And so people see, actually patriots in the state of Texas, they want true, accurate, patriotic history.” – Brandon Hall (14:10)
“If we don't quit, we eventually win… Nothing that we're doing now or working on... is more important than… Texas.” (17:00)
Call for Continued Engagement
Guests: Laura Ingraham, Rosemary Jenks
Contentious Congressional Debate
“If you have committed a crime, you should be removed from the country. Period.” – Laura Ingraham (22:00)
Critique from the Right: “Screw American Workers Bill”
“The Dignity act... should be called the SAW act for Screw All American Workers… it screws low wage workers. With mass amnesty. More than 10 million illegal aliens would get amnesty...” – Rosemary Jenks (25:35–26:05)
“If you're in a state or federal gang database, that information can't be used against you. This is lunacy…” – Jenks (30:44)
Bannon’s Call to Action
“Send them all home in a 10 year minimum, 10 year moratorium on all immigration. Then we got time to… make sure American workers are the priority above all…” – Steve Bannon (31:34)
On Energy Markets and U.S. Security:
“We're headed higher. Honestly, I don't. Where's the end? ... How about none of it really matters to us?”
— Eric Bolling (01:32)
“The implication is clear. The strait has not been formally closed, but it has been operationally nationalized.”
— Steve Bannon (02:47)
On U.S. Military Involvement:
“Why are we risking billions upon billions… Trump is risking his… reputation as a badass globally if he backs down to this little Iran military… Why do they still have the strength?”
— Eric Bolling (05:05)
On Texas Cultural Battle:
“Their plan to take over this state… it stops right here at the State Board of Education… we're actually going on the offense to erase historical revision…”
— Brandon Hall (12:44)
“You are the Calvary. You are the ones in this audience. You're coming for the besieged homesteaders. It's like a John Ford movie. You're the heroes.”
— Steve Bannon (14:43)
On Immigration Policy:
“This is the Democrats amnesty bill. It's mass amnesty, mass immigration and zero deportations.”
— Rosemary Jenks (29:06)
“Salazar and Lawler… you're traitors and you ought to be run out. They got to be turfed out of Congress.”
— Steve Bannon (30:25)
Napoleon/Trump Parallels:
“He recognized that he was the master of improvisation. And here he reminds me so much of Trump. ... Trump, like Napoleon, is a master of the deal.”
— Dr. Bradley Thayer (34:02–36:38)
| Timestamp | Segment | Speaker(s) | |-----------|---------|------------| | 00:07–02:47 | Introduction, deep dive into oil market, Iranian influence | Steve Bannon, Eric Bolling | | 05:05–07:59 | Strategic discussion: U.S. interests in Hormuz | Eric Bolling, Bannon | | 12:44–14:43 | Texas school board fight, CAIR’s influence | Brandon Hall, Bannon | | 21:18–24:10 | Immigration debate: Dignity Act | Laura Ingraham, unnamed Congressman | | 25:35–31:34 | Rosemary Jenks’ critique of Dignity Act | Rosemary Jenks, Bannon | | 34:02–39:47 | Napoleon/Trump strategy, Iran/China/U.S. maneuvers | Dr. Bradley Thayer, Bannon | | 43:51–47:36 | Warpath Coffee, grassroots business promo | Taj Gill, Bannon |
This episode blends fiery commentary, strategic analysis, and mobilizing rhetoric. The War Room presents a worldview where culture, economics, and geopolitics are inseparable—and where the “little guy” is the only reliable defender of American interests, both at home and abroad. The battle lines: Texas schools, U.S. immigration policy, and the shifting global oil market—each portrayed as existential fronts in a larger struggle for the nation’s soul.
Listeners are urged to stay informed, join the grassroots fight, and build resilience in the face of entrenched opposition.
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