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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
MAGA Media I wish in my soul.
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Joe Allen
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. That.
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Steve Bannon
Wednesday 10th December Year Overlord 2025 Nothing's more serious than what we're talking about. This whole situation with artificial intelligence, the development of it, its rollout, it's going to hit every aspect of your life. Also the national security aspects of it. And who actually is kind of overseeing it or making sure that we have at least some sort of regulatory apparatus. Remember, we're. We are the deconstruction administrative state. But like the FTC and the fcc, the way they're operating now, I think it's terrific. You have to have at least some regulatory. I do believe you can get to potentially a preemption if you have some sort of regulatory environment where the four frontier labs are not just running on their own with no oversight and really no insight into what they're doing. And you're seeing people that are pretty safe. Pair of hands like Mike Davis et Cetera, going forward with these proposals on the four Cs and they're just getting dismissed. I think the reason that people are working so hard on this was dismissive attitude of roligarchs in trying to jam in this AI amnesty into the must pass big beautiful bill. We need that for the economy and then to come back with virtually the exact same document and try to put it into the NDA, that level of arrogance just not going to wash, just not going to hack it. And I think it shows you what they think of the American people and MAGA in trying to do that. And this is where I think President Trump's being really deserved by not getting a broader picture because I believe these people give him just one side of information. And it's because, don't take it from me, we know it's dead wrong because of what happened the second time when they tried to put it in the ndaa. This was not even close the first time. At least it came to a vote in the Senate where they lost 99 to 1. That should send a signal to anybody that it ain't going to work. But to come back with the exact same thing and just be pulled, not even put up or not even have a sidebar vote on it be pulled because, quote, unquote, it lost momentum because people started to see what they were doing in the middle of the night. And this aspect on the chips has really got to be thought through. Brad, by the way, I want to thank.
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Particularly the Birchgold guys, our sponsor. Look, silver's on fire now. Over 60 bucks. Gold is on, you know, on fire again. I think it's over 4,200. It's not the price here. It's the pattern recognition of what's going on. Of course. Huge day at the Federal Reserve today. President Trump will be all over that. He's announced already that he and Scott Bessant, Treasury Secretary Bessant, are going to interview Kevin Warsh. Going to their final rounds of interviews. I think they announced. I think that might even be today or tomorrow. So a lot going on in the world of finance and capital markets. Want to thank Birchgold. Just the thing you should do now is get to Philip Patrick and the team and find about all the different methodologies you can do and to have them give you even more backup information. Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon, go get to Philip Patrick and his team today because this financial turbulence is going to go for a while. Dave, Brat, your thoughts, I know your thoughts on what Chris McGuire had to say this whole situation with artificial intelligence, I know you got a bounce, but your thoughts also about the Federal Reserve this afternoon, sir?
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Dave Brat
Yeah. Well, great comments on the chips. I learned a lot. That's a sharp guy on the war room. Spread this platform. I'll just add some of the economics around AI Sometimes the economics and the narrative gets blown up. You know, artificial intelligence is the whole economy. It's responsible for all of economic growth. Everything hinges on this. That's not true. I got a sober, safe pair of hands, as you say, economists, sends me reports. I get reports from all my economist buddies. This guy did a real good job. I won't name him, so he keeps his job. But if you take GDP growth at, say, 3%, that's what we've been talking about, and you decompose, you just break it up into its part. What causes the 3%? Well, consumption is the biggest part of the economy, so that's 2% of the 3%. Personal consumption is, you know, two thirds of the economy usually. And it is now the remaining part, the big part, nonresidential fixed investment, non residential, so non housing. So how big is fixed investment and where is that? It's pretty good. It's pretty good. But the surprising piece is structures are not up. Structures are flat up a hair. So all these data centers you're hearing about, that's not a huge part of the economy. But the good news is equipment and info processing equipment are up significantly. So it looks like we'll get some productivity gains. They'll take place within existing structures. And those together, those account for, you know, about 1% of that 3% GDP growth. And so I think it's important for us and the President and other people speaking on the economy to put, put these AI stories in context so we don't get too carried away.
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Steve Bannon
Your thoughts today on your thoughts today on, on the Fed, on Powell, the last, the last hurrah, Powell, although I don't think he's leaving. I don't think he's given up his governorship post. That's for another day. We'll talk about. I don't think he's seen the last of Powell. But your thoughts about today?
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Dave Brat
Yeah, yeah, it looks like they're going to lower rates. You know, it'll be a little bit. And so, you know, that's fine. They've been, you know, sticky. The Fed's been very reluctant. You know, they raised rates up to five and a half after the, in 2122, after Covid and after the financial disasters and they wanted to make sure inflation. Right. The famous phrase is don't let the horse out of the barn. Once inflation starts galloping, it's very hard to reel it back in. Right. So there the Fed, Federal Reserve is split on that. But Trump wants pro growth. And so, you know, they have a lot of levers in house there. I think they have too many levers. And so Besant is doing some innovative stuff on the money front out of Treasury. I hope he can explain some of that. That's very complex as well. But I think he's the guy to follow on the new monetary story and the degree of liquidity we're going to have.
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Steve Bannon
Where do people go to get all your content, sir?
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Dave Brat
Yeah, just brat economics on Getter and on X. And everybody, please, you just heard the guy on chips. You're not going to hear that anywhere else. You got Joe coming up. You got the Health Health guys coming up. I've been talking with him in the studio. Just great people on the war room. Spread this platform. If you want to save the country, save the platform. Get this platform busting. Thanks, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, Dave. Look forward to getting you back during the week. Thank you, sir.
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Dave Brat
Thank you. You bet.
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Steve Bannon
The buried Lee there drops. I was over the White House yesterday.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Dave.
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Steve Bannon
Brad, the best Joe Allen, alternative eos, everything that's going on. What do you got for me? You've been around the country, you're working very closely with these people on. There's a couple of EOs out there now, since they're not going to go the route of something right in the. Of something right into the ndaa. What are you hearing?
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Joe Allen
Yes, Steve, you've got the big push from David Sachs for his version of an executive order that one imagines will probably reflect the draft that we saw a couple of weeks ago. Basically total preemption, as much power as possible to squash state laws. David Sacks put out a tweet two days ago, one rule book for AI, and in it he's basically trying to mollify the concerns brought up by Mike Davis, the four Cs, child protection communities, creators and censorship. But his approach is to take the focus off of AI completely. Basically, he's saying that we already have legislation in place to take care of this. You don't need special laws directed specifically at AI, which, I mean, just to be quite frank, is total nonsense. It's obvious in every single case that neither state nor federal laws have done much of anything to protect children, to, to protect communities, to protect creators, or to protect people from Censorship. So I'm not really sure why he thought that would fly. You have tons of great criticism coming from people much smarter than me, Brad Carson, Max Tegmark and many others simultaneously. Steve, you have alternate EEOs, I'm sorry, alternate EOs, alternate executive orders which are being circulated right now in the administration. I know that it's in the hands of the staffers at ostp, the Office of Science and Technology Policy. It's in the hands of Vice President J.D. vance's staffers. I hope that it will be in the hands of pretty much anyone in the administration who has any will whatsoever to push back on Sachs and his various backers, Andreessen, Brockman and so forth. The two EOs, which I've only just had a chance to look at, the alternate EOs, just at a first reading, I think are extremely reasonable. And they in fact address David Sacks biggest talking point. He always talks about the woke AI. If we allow California or Colorado to dictate AI policy, which they wouldn't, but if they are allowed to pass laws.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on, but hang on, hang on. That is treating. Hang on. What galls me about that, that's treating MAGA like the morons. Oh, let's start woke out there. And that's going to frighten all the MAGA people breathe through their mouths.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Dude.
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Steve Bannon
That does not. That's only insults people's intelligence. Okay? This, this, this issue is so much more sophisticated that they see, they throw out, they think their belief, the tech bros. Is that the MAGA movement and the War on Posse are just, you know, bib overalls and breathe through their mouth. That's their mindset and that they're the masters of the universe. So they throw some woke AI. Woke AI has nothing to do with this. This is so much more serious than that. And you have guys like Ron DeSantis and others, Governor DeSantis and many others around the country working on this right now. So that's just a, a directional thing. They don't want. If they had any, if they came forward with even a modicum of. Here's what a regulatory apparatus would look like. Here's what we would do to make sure that the Frontier labs, particularly since they're taking government money and particularly since specifically because you had the CEO about the national labs that would be able to have people that could monitor what's going on and see what's going on. Because we just can't let these guys run out of control. And that's what they're asking for. Plus Chris McGuire right there just with a set of facts, proved the lie. The Chinese Communist Party is behind us potentially for years. If you just cut them off with the chips, the cc. Their whole argument is that we have to go at breakneck speed. You guys can't look at anything, you can't do anything. And for the kids, the devil catch the hindmost because we're in a race against the Chinese Communist Party. At the same time, the exact same people, the exact same people argue that the United States should give its best technology to the Chinese Communist Party so that they can be in the American stack. Right? Which is all just a blatant lie.
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Joe Allen
Go ahead, Steve. That contradiction sits at the heart of basically all of their arguments. You've got the argument that we can't slow down or China will race ahead. But they're not treating China like a competitor.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
They're not.
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Joe Allen
They're treating China like a customer. They're obviously not that concerned about them coming, going ahead if they're willing to give them our second best chips or any chips whatsoever, as Maguire so eloquently put it. But there's two other major contradictions that these guys are really resting on. Number one, you've got this argument that we need more and more immigrants. We need more and more H1BS in order to create the software to write the programming and push America ahead on AI. Simultaneously they make the argument that if we push ahead on AI, we'll be able to replace all coders. We'll be able to replace, in fact, all white collar workers and all blue collar workers. They're going to have to decide whether or not we need more immigrants and if so, what that leads to. And secondly, they also argue that the ultimate purpose of this is to create artificial general intelligence. The ultimate purpose is not just to replace workers, but to replace leaders. Who do we turn to for answers to all these problems? What expert do we turn to? They say that we will eventually some in the next two or three years. They say that we will eventually turn to AI for all answers. If that's the case, then that's the case. That's it for us.
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Steve Bannon
Elon said this was at this forum they were having and it had all these kind of Elon type people there. These were fans of his, not, not opponents and they were asking about a different question, related, kind of a subset of this. And Elon told the guy, they asked the question, he said, don't worry about it, don't worry about it. In five or 10 years, 10 years, the max, five years, the earliest AI will be making every. All decisions, every major decision, and you don't have to worry about it. And then as a throwaway, he kind of says, let's hope it's good. AI AGI. I was like, what? You can even hear the audio. You see the audience kind of, you know, his fanboys. Joe, hang on. We got a lot to talk about. Raw Egg Nationalist is going to join us. President Trump put out a national security memorandum. Basically told the Europeans, hey, I'm not so sure. Why should I deal with you? I'm not so sure you're going to be around in the next. In the next 20 or 30 years. Raw egg Nationalist is going to join us. Talk about all of that, particularly nationalism. Next in the world.
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Jim
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Dave Brat
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Joe Allen
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
No. What are you waiting for?
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Kellyanne Yates
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Mike Lindell
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Okay, welcome back. Joe. Is Joe Allen. Do I have Joe Allen up? Joe, you want to continue on? I know you had some other things to say before we turn to raw egg nationalist.
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Joe Allen
Yeah, Steve, just to finish that, the thought that David Sachs is not being honest about what this AI race is leading to. He talks about it in terms of economics, he talks about it in terms of an American Golden Age, American achievement, science, all of this. But he is well aware that the ultimate goal for all of the frontier labs is to create artificial general intelligence and artificial superintelligence. Now, if that's the case, the narrative only goes one way. Either we turn over all authority to this machine and it keeps us as pets, or turns us into biofuel, or these companies are simply holding that out for investors. They see money, they see power, they throw money at them. And so basically, AGI and ASI are just a scam. They're just a scam. Sales pitch is one or the other. But David Sacks doesn't really address any of those things. It's the same thing with the H1BS. If AI is going to do all of this, why do we need immigrants? Well, it would seem that the framework is to bring over immigrants to create the AI and then replace everyone with it. Again, either that's the case or that's just a sham sales pitch. If Sachs is so intent on having these companies direct both federal policy and the lives and economies of everyone on Earth, and he should at least own up to that fact. Similar to the China thing, right? If you need China to stay behind, why sell them chips? It's obvious contradictions. And as you say, maga and most anyone with any sense is not so stupid as to fall for that. You know, in that spirit, you have these two alternative EOs that are circulating right now in the administration. Hopefully they get to as many people as possible and get in front of the President. The most important addresses human flourishing. If we're going to live in a world in which AI saturates everything, the argument in this EO is that you're going to need to put in place policies and laws that ensure the AI is used only for human flourishing, not for human replacement, not to sever social ties not to drive people insane, but to only allow people to be more, as they put it in their words, creative, to be freer, to be more social. Now, I may be skeptical of all that, but at the very least the spirit of this centers the value on the human rather than the value on the companies and ultimately to the machine. The alternate EO on human flourishing also calls for federal state working groups so that the Office of Science and Technology Policy is in working with governors around the country, ags around the country, state legislatures around the country in order to craft policies in which states are at the very least informing the federal policy, but perhaps crafting, as they are right now, their own policies that exist side by side.
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Steve Bannon
It's very ironic that some of the people heretofore have been globalists are now so focused on states rights. Anyway, we'll go through these and we're going to go through both of these in detail, but also it shows you the complexity. When you open this up, it could be a Pandora's box. So you got it. This is why it has to be dramatic action quickly to say, you're just not going to let these people be excited. If you're just going to sit there and say, okay, the Frontier labs are going to control the national labs and the weapons labs and they're accelerationists, Devil catch the hindmost. They've told us to head into AGI.
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And just do it. You're going to have, then you're going to have a regulatory morass that's going to come up. You've got to have smart people with wisdom right now think, hey, what do we need to do to make sure we keep the lead on this? One thing we have to do is make sure that there is nothing that the Chinese Communist Party gets, I mean nothing the Chinese Communist Party gets that can make them even close to being competitive. Because what does that do? That gives you a little time here. It gives you a gap and then you've got to think this thing through. So we'll get back to the EOS momentarily. So just hang around Joe. Joe's been out throughout the country, will be back throughout the country on his tour to talk to folks about and listen to folks on artificial intelligence. In fact, everything in the Singularity, it's not just AGI. Raw egg. Nationalist joins us. I thought it was. We got you. Before you go back, I think you're heading back to the United Kingdom. Raw egg or Doc, now that you've been exposed. But I'd love raw egg the most. You're two Things, number one, you're about health and responsibility. That's the raw egg part of it, right? You call it shlonking, what, 20 raw eggs a day in the morning to get up and to start lifting weights. The other part, you're a nationalist. Talk to me about. President Trump just put out his national security memorandum the other day. And quite frankly, and one thing you've been arguing about for Europe, he was brutal about the decline of European civilization. And he actually said, maybe even the end of European civilization. Like, how do we partner with you guys when you may not be around in the next 20 to 30 years? This is one of the things you've been talking about, about being a nationalist, worrying about your own culture, your own society, different than kind of these transnational entities. Your thoughts on what's transpired since the last time we had your own war room, which I think was last week, in the middle of the week.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
It's great to be back, Steve. So, yeah, so this, I think really, this new national security strategy is a. It's a big thing. It's a big thing. And I think, you know, you can look at it from two different perspectives. Obviously, you can look at it from the perspective of the European elites, and they don't like it at all. But, I mean, they have no excuse. It was coming. They should have known it was coming. You know, during the election campaign, you had the then senator for Ohio saying, look back off from Elon Musk. Stop threatening Elon Musk. You know, maybe what we'll do, maybe we'll withdraw from NATO. If you keep censoring US Tech companies keep censoring the speech of Americans. Then you had that amazing spectacle at the Munich Security Conference, of course, where Vance directly addressed Europe's elites and said, you are the reason for Europe's decline. You are the greatest threat to Europe's future. Not Russia, not China, you, the European elites who are out of touch with the European people. But then, of course, you can look at this national security strategy from the perspective of the European people. And I think it's actually.
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It should be, I think, a great encouragement for them. Because, of course, American policy now, maybe for the first time ever, is explicitly against the actions of the European elites against their own people. So, I mean, it's about demographic change. Donald Trump is saying the US does not support the great replacement. It doesn't support the demographic replacement of the European people against their will by European elites. Now, the big question, obviously, is what's going to happen? What is, will this provide a further spur for the right wing in Europe, will it kind of drive the kind of growing populist movement that's within the kind of within finishing distance in places like Germany, France, Britain, but still hasn't quite got across the line? Or will we see some kind of really, really major reaction from European elites? So I think just last week there was a story suggesting that perhaps European leaders are thinking of ditching US Treasuries en masse as a way basically of tanking the American economy if the US doesn't play ball with negotiations on Ukraine, if the US basically doesn't agree to continue to prolong the war in Ukraine. So, I mean, it's a hinge point, it's an inflection point, I think. But yes, it speaks to all of the kinds of points that I make about nationalism, about the need for strong nations, beginning at the level actually of strong individuals.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, tell me about that. How do you coordinate? Because it's the raw egg part in the nationalists. How do you take the health, the vigor, the focus on men and what they have to do and you tie it to nationalism. Walk me through that and the linkages.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Yeah, of course. Well, it's actually, you know, it's. A lot of people question me about this and they say, oh, well, you know, what's working out got to do with politics? What's health and fitness got to do with politics? And maybe the first place I actually point people to is the pandemic. I say, look at the pandemic, look at what happened. Look at one of the most vocal groups that resisted the medical tyranny that was imposed. It was gym bros. It was gym owners in the U.S. in Canada and throughout the Western world, who actually said, look, no, we're not going along with these lockdown measures. We don't believe that it's in the interests of our health and our self preservation not to exercise, not to have access to facilities where we can work out. So, you know, that was a very, very clear example. But I think the basic idea is just that a nation is only as strong as the individuals of which it is composed. You know, if you have a nation where 60% of people, 70%, I think, as in the US are overweight or obese, you've got a sick nation. And, you know, the cost, the sheer cost, I think, of ill health in the US is, is, well, I mean, it's threatening really to destroy American society. And so that's why you've got something like the Maha movement, which is much needed and which is actually proving to be largely a unifying issue for Americans on both sides of the political aisle, or it certainly should be. So I think, yes, the basic point is just you can't have a strong nation, you can't have a healthy nation if everybody is ill. But then there are also other interesting sort of facets to this. My new book, the Last Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, I talk about testosterone in particular and testosterone decline. And we've seen a civilizational decline in levels of testosterone, the male hormone, over the last sort of 50 years. And it's testosterone that actually makes men basically men. And there are studies that show, for example, that testosterone increases in group preference, which is basically, you know, preference for your own people. So if you, if you have a testosterone decline on a civilizational level, people are less patriotic. Men are less patriotic. That's just a fact.
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Steve Bannon
Raw egg. Hang on. We're gonna stick with you. And I want to find out more. We're gonna drill down more of this, particularly what's happening in the United Kingdom with men and the nation. Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. The ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals. Silver over 60 on a roll. Find out why Birch Gold. Philip Patrick and his team.
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Joe Allen
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Steve Bannon
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Well, when I didn't really have that much more to do during the pandemic, I was. I was slonking 24 a day, which is. Which is probably even a bit excessive for me, actually. I did end up getting a little bit sick of raw eggs, but I'm down to a. I'm down to a more healthy sort of 12, which is. Which I think is when you really start to feel the benefits. And that's what I say to people, you know, if you're going to slonk, work up to 12 a day, you know, you've got to be working out, of course, you've got to be lifting weights, but you will feel a tremendous difference.
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Steve Bannon
I think it was in 1939, 1940, 41, when we first started the draft, before Pearl harbor, we knew. Our elites knew that something wicked this way comes both in Germany and Imperial Japan. So they started. We started rearming years after the British did and the Germans. But we started drafting, I think in 39, they put in the draft. I believe, if memory serves correctly, I could be off these numbers somewhat, but the average testosterone. And these are kids coming out of the Depression, right? This is a hardscrabble life for most of the country. The average draftee, I think the testosterone count was like 2,400 or some number that's just off the charts. And you see these kids in the photos, they're all in great shape because they were just lean, mean. They looked. They're hungry like wolves, right? And they didn't have a great life. They had a tough life. That's what formed the greatest generation. I think today is the average Testosterone for a man, five or six hundred. I mean, it's the number. My numbers may not be exactly right, but direction. There's been just a collapse of testosterone. Why is that and what implications that had on modern society?
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Yes, there has been a collapse in levels of testosterone. So I mean, one of the gold standard studies that demonstrates this is called the Massachusetts Male Aging Study. It was done in the Boston area from about, I think 1988 to sort of 2002, 2004, taking in a random sample of men of all ages in the Boston area, taking blood samples over time and charting trends. And it showed that there was a 1%, year on year decrease in testosterone levels across the period. So 25 years. 25. And other studies have substantiated this over a longer period in other parts of the west as well. So I mean, there is a, like Finland for example, and also Israel and other studies in the U.S. there's a civilizational collapse in testosterone levels and it goes hand in hand with the civilizational collapse too in other fertility markers. So sperm counts and sperm quality, for example. I mean, one expert, Professor Shanna Swan, predicts simply on the basis of sperm count Trends, that by 2050 it might actually be impossible for men to reproduce or for humans to reproduce by natural means because the median man will have no sperm. So one half of all men will produce no sperm whatsoever and the other half will produce so few it doesn't really matter. It's a knotty problem. It's a complicated problem. I mean, it has to do with a number of different factors. Rising obesity levels, sedentary lifestyles, stress, chronic stress. I mean, we're stressed in ways that our ancestors never were. You know, I mean, a hunter gatherer might experience chronic stress, not chronic stress, sorry, acute stress in a situation, you know, where they're hunting a wild animal or being hunted by a wild animal. But actually we're subject to chronic stress all the time and it's a real killer. But one of the main things actually that really is driving down testosterone levels and fertility are these harmful endocrine disrupting chemicals that RFK Jr talks a lot about and has made one of the central focuses actually of his Make America Healthier gain platform. These are industrial chemicals. These are chemicals that are found in personal care products, they're found in processed food, they're everywhere based. And what they do is they have, basically what they do is they mimic, most of them mimic the female hormone estrogen in the human body. And so they alter the natural balance of testosterone to estrogen. And that's bad for men and also for women, too. And it has all sorts of terrible practical effects. It drives down testosterone, it pushes drives obesity, it drives particular kinds of cancer, metabolic dysfunction, digestive disorders. Really, actually probably the whole gamut of chronic diseases that we're witnessing, this explosion epidemic is driven by exposure to harmful chemicals. And so that's one of the reasons why actually.
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I get concerned with the Maha agenda when it looks like they're, you know, like the EPA is kind of watering down these promises about pesticide regulation, for example. Because actually that I think more than anything else, that's something that we haven't paid attention to in recent decades. We've allowed ourselves to create this horrible toxic environment. We're swimming in toxic chemicals from the moment of conception. And there are hundreds, thousands of studies that demonstrate that actually fetal exposure to these harmful chemicals.
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Sets children up for life actually with all sorts of chronic health problems potentially. So, yeah, it's chemicals in particular, it's this toxic environment that we've created that's really driving testosterone decline. And I mean, the effects, I think are, as I say in the book, I mean, testosterone is the master male hormone. Testosterone is not the only thing that makes men men. And we shouldn't take this sort of crude standpoint on testosterone that just the man with the most testosterone is the most manly. It doesn't work like that. But nevertheless, testosterone is a defining factor in masculinity. It gives men libido, it gives them energy, it gives them muscle mass, it gives them confidence, motivation.
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You know, everything that we associate with men, assertiveness, courage, is driven by testosterone. And so if we're, if we're seeing as we are asserting civilizational decline in testosterone, then we're really ending up with, actually with men without chests. And that's how C.S. lewis.
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Described Western man in the 1940s when he was talking about failures in moral education. C.S. lewis said, we don't teach children what is right and what is wrong. We take this sort of value free or value neutral frame in education. We don't teach children and young men to love what they should love. As you know, the great Western tradition in education right back to the Greeks did. But he was talking metaphorically. He was using this metaphor of men without chests. Well, actually, we really are creating men without chests because we're sapping them of their testosterone from birth and it's having dire effects.
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Steve Bannon
We got about a minute or two. Make the pitch for the book. I want people to not just get it for themselves, I want them to give it as a Christmas gift, particularly to young men. Give me a minute on why someone should give this as a Christmas gift, sir.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Well, look, there's a crowded field of books about the crisis of masculinity. You've got people like Jordan Peterson, Senator Josh Hawley has a book, Richard Reeves. But none of them, I think, really get to the true biological basis of masculinity skill in decline in the west today. None of them talk about testosterone and more importantly, I think their prescriptions, because they don't talk about testosterone, because they don't talk about the roots of masculinity in biology, in the way that you live, the way that you eat, the way that you behave, their prescriptions really, I think, fall flat. So this is not only, I think, a more accurate description of the nature of the crisis of masculinity in the west and what's causing it, but it also contains eminently practical, very, very simple advice for men. How they can improve their testosterone, the kinds of ways that they can take control of their lives, take control of their diets, their lifestyles, how you can get better sleep, how you can cut processed foods out of your life, how you can avoid exposure to these endocrine disrupting chemicals and other nasty substances and begin to rebuild your life. And it also fits it actually into a framework of national renewal as well. So that's, you know, again, the raw egg nationalism thing. This isn't just about you taking control of your life for your own benefit. It's actually about you taking control of your life along with other young men and actually doing something beneficial for the nation and maybe just saving Western civilization itself.
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Steve Bannon
Doc, where do they go for your website, social media, all your coordinates, you're putting up stuff all the time. Where do folks go?
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
So Twitter, I'm BabyGravy9 on Twitter. I'm raweggstack.com for my substack, rawegnationalist.com as well, if you want. Just a quick and easy site for all the different links. And my new book is the Last Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. You can pre order it now from Amazon.com and it's going to be out on December 16th.
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Steve Bannon
December 16th. Perfect. Christmas gift, Doc. Thank you so much. Joe. Allen, tell people where, Joe, you're going to be out and about. People can actually see you, I think, this weekend. Am I correct on that?
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Joe Allen
Yeah, this is going to be a small gathering at Merriweather Academy. There's a couple of slots left. You can find the link right at the top of my social media.
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It is a boys club. So sorry, no girls allowed. And if you come, you can't just sit and do nothing. You're expected to participate. You're expected to chop wood and burn it and maybe even, I don't know, one on one fist fighting, maybe two on two. We'll see. You know, after hearing Dr. Ren speak, I think I'm going to go straight from here to the gym and then to the farmer's market to get a dozen eggs, eat all of them raw and I don't know, maybe pick a fight on the street just to see if I can up my tea just a little bit. We'll see if he's willing to go with.
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Steve Bannon
Anyway, there's a method to my madness to put raw egg Nashus in there. Where to go? People go to get all your writings right now. You're putting up great stuff every day. You're going around the country giving talks. You're working on another big project for us. Where do people go?
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Joe Allen
Go to Oebotxyze and get her and my website, JoeBot XYZ. Thank you very much, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you. Thank raw egg nationalists. Appreciate you guys holding down the fort. Joe, you're actually going to be back at 5 o' clock before Joe heads to Nashville. He's going to be back. Make sure you go check out where you can see Joe this weekend. Joe Allen, see you back here at 5 o'.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
Clock.
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Joe Allen
Thanks, sir.
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Joe Allen
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, continuing on the concept of masculinity, Kellyanne Yates, who's a etiquette expert. I have her on here for Christmas etiquette. But, Kellyanne, you teach etiquette, you teach deportment. You're kind of what the conservative Mary Poppins, I think you've been called. Talk to us about. You're coming out with a. With a book, I think, in the future, about masculinity, chivalry and etiquette, Correct?
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Kellyanne Yates
Yes, absolutely. Well, my first book is the Art of. Of a Feminine Lady. And I thought it would be lovely to accompany that with a book for the gentlemen, since this book is all about ladies and. And femininity. But I do see that there's a missing market for it because, well, look at Charlie Kirk. For me, he was a perfect gentleman. And so it's going to be a lot of focusing on chivalry and how to be confident in any social situation.
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Steve Bannon
How does one get it back in a society that's devolved as much as ours? How do you get chivalry, class, etiquette? How do you get that back in, accepted in a broad range of culture, ma'? Am?
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Kellyanne Yates
Well, my motto is you have to go back to the past to find class. And that's what we're looking at now. You have to really look at. You just go back. Even 50 years ago, gentlemen really knew how to dress. And now it's not uncommon. I was at the gas station the other day, and I actually saw a man in his pajamas and slippers. And that was unheard of, you know, a few years ago. But it's becoming very slobbish and lazy, the Western society. And I think we have to start going back to the past to look for inspiration. That's where I get a lot of my inspiration from.
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Steve Bannon
Charlie Kirk was a young man that inspired many with his humility, but also his toughness. Why do you say he's an example of etiquette and being a gentleman?
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Kellyanne Yates
Well, he always displayed perfect gentleman, in my opinion, because he was able to convey his message without, you know, making fun of people. He was very polite and he. He dressed well, of course, but he was a good communicator. And, yeah, he was a perfect gentleman. He was a Christian, and a part of that comes into it. And I. I loved him very much. He sent me a message once on social media because I did a video on the etiquette of abortion and how we should respect our body and the body of another human being. And it was just a little message because I had tagged him in my story and he wrote back to me just to say, excellent video. Great, great points. Thanks for sharing. And I was Quite thrilled at the time to receive that message. But now it means the world to me. But yes, he was a perfect gentleman. You have to watch any of his videos. You can see he was a gentleman. He was just perfect in Mike's opinion.
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Steve Bannon
Give me a minute or two on you're talking about Christian. I saw the other day about Christmas etiquette. Why? Why? What is Christmas etiquette and why is it different than etiquette the rest of the time of the year?
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Kellyanne Yates
Well, there's etiquette and everything. You know, there's etiquette, dating, etiquette, etiquette. You know, when you, a lot of people think of etiquette as a dining etiquette, a knife and fork and. But there's so much more to it than that. We're surrounded with it. But the Christmas etiquette, for example, the first day of Advent is when the Christmas trees officially go up. That's what etiquette dictates. So if you haven't got your Christmas tree up yet, I recommend you go out today and buy a Christmas tree, preferably a real one.
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Christmas cards, they are supposed to go out two to three weeks early, especially if it's overseas. You want to aim at three weeks for the card to go out to make sure people have time to enjoy it. The first Christmas card was actually sent by Queen Victoria and it's a lovely tradition.
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The favorite card for me is the nativity scene because it represents what Christmas is all about. Or a robin. Red breast is very nice too because everybody loves a robin and you can never go wrong with Father Christmas. Lovely Father Christmas card.
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Steve Bannon
Where do we go? You teach. You have an etiquette academy. You try to teach young women this young men. Where do people go? To find out more about you, more about your etiquette academy and more about your thoughts on Christmas etiquette.
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Kellyanne Yates
Lydiatiquette.com we have online classes and I do video coaching. Also available for private coaching where I fly out and do in person coaching. And we have weekend events. We do a lot of fun things.
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Can I just give a few tips on hosting an event over Christmas?
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Steve Bannon
I, I tell you what, we're gonna, we'll have to have you back on that because I gotta bounce to our own Mike Lindell, but one more time. Where do people, where do people go?
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Kellyanne Yates
It's Lady Etiquette.com and I'm on social media at the Lady Etiquette on Instagram and Lady Etika Academy on Facebook.
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Raw Egg Nationalist (Doc)
And.
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Kellyanne Yates
That'S where you can find me.
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Steve Bannon
We'll have you back on about hosting? I'll talk to my producer. Have you back on soon. Kellyanne Yates.
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Lady Etiquette. Thank you so much, man, for joining us here. Let's go and book that. Can't do the next couple days. People have to know about Christmas etiquette. Mike Lindell, big announcement tomorrow. I don't want to give it away, but Mike Lindell is going to be with us for an extended period of time starting at 11:00am Eastern Standard Time tomorrow. From the factory floor of my pillow, my favorite company. What do you got for us today, sir? Give us a deal.
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Steve Bannon
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Mike Lindell
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Steve Bannon
The Charlie Kirk show is next. We are back here live, 5:00pm Eastern Standard Time.
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