THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, DECEMBER 17TH, 2025 (EP.#5004)

Summary

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON – EPISODE #5004 (DECEMBER 17, 2025)

Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: December 17, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Special Guests: Steve Stern, Jake Seawolf, Julie Kelly, Peter Navarro, Luke Niferatos, Marcus Fronmeyer, Mike Lindell

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of "The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon" focuses on the escalating political and cultural battles in America and abroad, from election integrity and federal government decisions in Colorado to international conservatism and economic conflict with China. The show includes calls to action, updates on key investigations, deep dives into alternative political movements (notably Germany’s AfD), and anticipation of a major primetime address by President Trump later in the evening.

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SEGMENT BREAKDOWN AND KEY DISCUSSION POINTS

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1. Federal Retaliation in Colorado and Activism for Tina Peters

[03:24 – 11:44]

• Stephen K. Bannon launches into a warning for Colorado:
  Bannon asserts that recent moves (e.g., the National Center for Atmospheric Research and Space Force elements leaving Colorado) aren't random but intentional acts of retribution against Colorado officials (specifically Governor Polis) while "our girl" Tina Peters remains imprisoned.

  • “Every federal dollar spent in Colorado ought to be removed until Tina Peters, a gold star mother, is brought out of that prison.” — Stephen K. Bannon (04:13)

• Steve Stern describes grassroots mobilization:

  • Announces a major election integrity call, with up to 100,000 people planning to ring Governor Polis at 1pm ET to demand Peters’ release.
  • Election security and the push for “no mail-in ballots, one day voting, no machines, no illegal aliens voting” are at the forefront.
  • Steve Stern: “This is one of the most important meetings of the year for your group. I want everybody to make sure they know the time and where they go. What do you got going?” (05:13)
  • Encourages online engagement and provides contact info for activism ([e-mail]).

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2. Self-Reliance, Family Responsibility, and "Prepper" Culture

[11:44 – 12:35]

• Jake Seawolf (My Patriot Supply) pivots from practical prep to heartfelt fatherhood:
  • Shares that, as a new dad, he’s pondering not just “would you die for your kids” but “are you willing to live for them” and do the uncomfortable work of ensuring family security.
  • “Dying is easy… My question is, are people willing to live for their children? Are you willing to live for your family? Are you willing to do what it takes to make sure that they have food on their plate every day no matter what the circumstances are…?” — Jake Seawolf (10:41)
  • Bannon and Seawolf urge audience to embrace preparedness as rational given turbulent times.

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3. Jack Smith’s Deposition and the DOJ’s Trump Investigations

[12:35 – 17:37]

• Julie Kelly updates on Jack Smith’s (former special counsel) testimony before Congress:
  • Calls for accountability and transparency, arguing the American public deserve to see Smith questioned in public after “$50 million spent… on that criminal pursuit.” (12:52)
  • Reveals “well-timed disclosure” that the FBI Washington field office did not think there was probable cause for the Mar-a-Lago raid and resisted DOJ pressure.
  • “June 3, 2022, after cooperating with the Archives, after cooperating with DOJ, let that degenerate midget, I call him J. Brat, three FBI agents to walk around Mar A Lago… It was a recon mission. And three days later, Jay Bratt started to push for the armed raid…” — Julie Kelly (15:27)
  • Bannon presses for movement on broader DOJ accountability and asks what she hopes to hear from President Trump’s evening address.

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4. Marijuana Executive Order, Midterms, and Parental Activism

[20:13 – 23:13]

• Bannon and Peter Navarro: Call to action against the rumored marijuana executive order:
  • Guest Luke Niferatos (SAM) says, “This executive order would be the biggest move by any president in modern history to normalize drug use… Don’t normalize drugs. That’s got to be your message.” (21:41)
  • Bannon stresses Trump’s history as “the most anti-drug president,” arguing against perceived political pandering ahead of the midterms.

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5. Navarro on Trump’s Global Economic Strategy and China Tariffs

[23:29 – 31:27]

• Clip and live analysis:
  • Navarro highlights the “three-dimensional chess” of Trump’s tariffs, stating, “What President Trump understands is this three dimensional chess that’s known as the international trading system… It's essentially a global tariff wall against mercantilism and in this case, the mercantilism of China.” (23:50)
  • Cites Mexico and Europe imposing their own tariffs as evidence of successful, coordinated pushback, and calls for patience with the “Main Street agenda.”
  • Predicts market gains as evidence of Trumpian strategy.
  • Navarro: “People got to be patient with the Trump agenda. It’s a Main street agenda. Main Street’s going to hear from the boss tonight.” (26:41)

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6. Interview: Marcus Fronmeyer (AfD) on German Populism and a USA–Germany Conservative Alliance

[37:07 – 47:27]

• Intro by Bannon:
  • Explains context: Germany’s conservative "Alternative for Deutschland" (AfD) rising in polls despite establishment resistance and attempts to marginalize or demonize the party.
• Marcus Fronmeyer on AfD’s Mission and Persecution:
  • “We’re quite new… In about 10 years, we became the strongest party in Germany… We try to make Germany great again and fix all of these problems.” (37:07)
  • Describes anti-AfD tactics by establishment parties, use of the intelligence apparatus, and ballot bans.
  • Argues AfD’s rise is fueled by public backlash to mass migration, economic decline, and the sense that “working class people and young people… are defending the civilization and culture of Germany,” as elite parties promote “cancel culture” and an open borders agenda.
  • Predicts AfD victory in the east and growth in the west due to economic hardship: “I’m quite optimistic… soon the AfD will be also the leading party… In the east, we have no need for a partner.” (45:46)
  • Describes threats of bureaucratic sabotage should AfD win.
  • Concludes with an invitation for international support, especially from US conservatives: “I think we have a lot of things in common with the MAGA movement… I believe it’s important to tighten our cooperation.” (38:07)

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7. Anticipation of President Trump’s National Address

[51:33 – 54:03]

• Mike Lindell (Minnesota candidate) previews expectations:

  • “He’s got to give us a big message of hope… people’s safety, the fraud… our welfare programs that have been robbed blind by these illegals…” (51:33)
  • Urges President Trump to address election security and the broader “message of hope and uniting the people.”

• Bannon outlines wall-to-wall Real America’s Voice coverage for the President’s anticipated address and ensuing analysis.

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• Bannon on Federal Pressure in Colorado:
  “Hell, they ought to move out the Air Force Academy… Every federal dollar spent in Colorado ought to be removed until Tina Peters, a gold star mother is sleeping on a steel slab cancer survivor is brought out of that prison.” (04:05)
• Jake Seawolf on Fatherhood:
  “Dying is easy… are people willing to live for their children?” (10:41)
• Julie Kelly on DOJ Overreach:
  “This was a well timed disclosure… The FBI, of course, did not believe that there was probable cause, at least the Washington field office…” (14:53)
• Luke Niferatos on Marijuana Order:
  “This executive order would be the biggest move by any president in modern history to normalize drug use.” (21:36)
• Peter Navarro on Tariff Strategy:
  “It's essentially a global tariff wall against mercantilism… that’s the epiphany of the article in the Financial Times…” (24:05)
• Marcus Fronmeyer (AfD) on Elite Resistance:
  “They tell them because, for example, of our past, we have to be more responsible… But you also need to offer especially young people something positive about your own country.” (41:52)
• Mike Lindell on 2024 Message:
  “It’s got to be a message of hope… we want secure elections… that’s in his messaging tonight.” (53:20)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR KEY SEGMENTS

| Segment | Timestamps | Key Voices | |--------------------------------------------|---------------|-----------------------| | Colorado De-Funding and Tina Peters | 03:24–11:44 | Bannon, Stern | | Fatherhood and Self-Reliance | 11:44–12:35 | Bannon, Seawolf | | Jack Smith Deposition & DOJ Investigations | 12:35–17:37 | Bannon, Julie Kelly | | Marijuana EO and Parental Pushback | 20:13–23:13 | Bannon, Navarro, Luke | | Trump’s Trade Template, China Tariffs | 23:29–31:27 | Navarro, Bannon | | Marcus Fronmeyer on AfD and German Politics| 37:07–47:27 | Bannon, Fronmeyer | | Anticipating Trump’s Address | 51:33–54:03 | Bannon, Lindell |

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OVERALL TONE & STYLE

The tone remains combative, urgent, and activist, with Bannon and his guests frequently referencing existential struggles—for the nation, movement, and individual families. There’s sustained opposition to federal bureaucracy, deep state actors, pro-globalist policies, and mainstream media, with a heavy emphasis on self-reliance, direct action, and international alliances between like-minded conservative movements.

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ADDITIONAL RESOURCE LINKS (as mentioned on-air)

• Election integrity info and grassroots activism: Steve Stern ([e-mail])
• Advocacy on marijuana policy: learnaboutsam.org
• Peter Navarro’s content: peternavarro.com
• Marcus Fronmeyer (AfD): X (Twitter) @MarcusFronemaier
• RAV wall-to-wall Trump speech coverage: Real America’s Voice

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This summary provides a comprehensive outline and highlights of War Room #5004, capturing its activism-driven spirit, tactical updates, and commitment to challenging both American and international political establishments.

Transcript

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We're going to deconstruct Colorado. As long, as long as polis got our girl in prison, this is what you can expect. There's going to be much more of that. Steve Stern talk to me about what we're doing special today and a lot of it's in her memory until we get her out of prison. But I will tell you right now, actions being taken these are not random events. You should get Polis and Griswold should understand some pattern recognition here and the citizens of Colorado. It's on you. You need to put pressure on them not it's not coming upon us coming upon you. But I got to tell you, you're going to start seeing these are that national the National Science foundation. The atmospheric thing is moving out the space things moving out. Hell, they ought to move out the Air Force Academy. They'll take it all out. Every federal dollar spent in Colorado ought to be removed until Tina Peters, a gold star mother is sleeping on a steel slab cancer survivor is brought out of that prison. Steve Stern, talk to me today about what you're going to do. Sir. This is one of the most important meetings of the year for your group. I want everybody to make sure they know the time and where they go. What do you got going? This is in honor of Tina Peters. We just changed everything and Peter Tickton is going to come on. And at 1 o' clock Eastern time we're going to have 10,000 to 100,000 people call Governor Jared Polis. There's the number. Don't start calling till 12 o' clock Eastern time. 303-866-2471. We've had enough of the Governor Peter ticket is going to update us on this. We're having our election security call today from 1:00 clock Eastern Time to 4:30. We're going to have a special guest on Stephen Bannon hopefully gets on. Cleta Mitchell will open it up. She's going to talk about what is happening on Election Integrity. If you'd like to get on, email me while I get off here@s. Stern1054gmail.com we'll get you a link. We're going to have Steve Gruber on. He's going to be talking about what's happening in Michigan. If you'd like to see this and you can't get on when you email me, go to Stern American Rumble. Go to get her. Go to Cloud. Hub Lindell tv. Yeah, Mike's voice got better. He's going to come on today talking about we're going to, we're going to be. It's going to be on. It's going to be on our Rumble. It's going to be on my personal getter site. It's going to be in the on the worms getter site. We're going to have everything it starts at what time? What time should people get up? Is it 1 o'? Clock? 1 o' clock Eastern time. Cleta Mitchell will come on directly there. We'll have Steve on. We'll have you on. We'll have. We're going to talk about everything else. I know we don't have limited time so I want everybody to go we're going to blow it all out. Now the question president said the other day he's got overwhelming, unbelievable, you know, material now. Ballots, machines, all of it. You got Kurt Olson doing it. Give me a minute. What are you anticipating from the president? States of what he's got. He's got evidence now. He said he's got evidence. He's going to be dropping it very shortly. What are you expecting, sir? Well, I'm hoping today he's going to say no mail in ballots one day voting, no machines, no illegal aliens voting. We're going to have Joe Hoff talking about that today with Colonel Conrad Reynolds. We've got a lot of people talking about that today. We're also going to be talking about Canada and how Dale Richardson is seeing what's happening where people can't even talk about the government. So this is happening all over the country. Now on top of everything else we got dance Mariglio coming on. He is going to be putting this out to Europe today. I have a good friend in London. He's putting it out. This is going to go to 7 million people. We hope more. It's going to be fantastic. Again I know we'll have limited time. 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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Peter Navarro]

Right?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

What about the probable cause yesterday? You know, the Washington field office, as you've told us so many times, were not fans of President Trump. In fact, they hated President Trump, but they told the FBI and there was not probable cause. How big a deal is that going to be in this, in this deposition today?

[Mike Lindell]

Right.

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So obviously this was a well timed disclosure by Senate, by the Senate and House Judiciary Committees as well. And look, this confirmed a Washington Post 2023 article that I've reported on numerous times that revealed this tension between the Washington FBI field office, led at the time by Stephen Dantuano, who we've talked about extensively, who was promoted to head up the Washington FBI field office after pulling off the Whitmer fednapping stunt in the Detroit FBI field office. Dantuano then oversaw the extensive January 6th investigation as well as the pipe bomb investigation. But it appears he was the one. He and several of his agents out of the Washington field office pushing back on main justice, especially Jay Bratt, George Toscas, people we've talked about, who are no longer with the department in pursuing immediately this raid of Mar a Lago. So this tension lasted over the course of two months. This was confirmed by these emails released yesterday. And then of course, the big bombshell is that the FBI, of course, did not believe that there was probable cause, at least the Washington field office, that there was not probable cause. That we know the President and his team and lawyers had been fully cooperating with Joe Biden's vengeful DOJ for over a year and a half, continuing to produce documents. 15 boxes they sent voluntarily to NARA. 38 more documents they gave to Jay Brett on June 3, 2022, when the President let Jay Brett and three FBI age voluntarily into Mar A Lago that day. This is very important, Steve, and I want to reiterate this. June 3, 2022, after cooperating with the Archives, after cooperating with DOJ, let that degenerate midget, I call him J. Brat. Three FBI agents to walk around Mar A Lago under the pretext that they were looking for more classified documents. It was a recon mission. And three days later, Jay Bratt started to push for the armed raid of Mar A Lago for more alleged government papers.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The President wants to have the poison dwarf Jay Bratt. Real quickly is Jack Smith. Take the fifth.

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Are we making any progress? I'm saying, are we making any progress on the impeachment of Boseberg? Ma', am, before you go get about a minute.

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Not that I'm aware of, no.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Good Lord in heaven. Good. Give me 30 seconds. Julie, what do you want to have the President say to the nation tonight?

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Love you, ma'.

[Peter Navarro]

Am.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Great job. A hammer from Chicago Economics, Navarro and marijuana next. Next in the war room, I got.

[Mike Lindell]

American faith.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

In America's heart.

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War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, marijuana. The executive order is gonna be signed today or tomorrow. Luke, you join us. You're the head of this parents group that have been fighting this. There's a rumor out there. Bobby Kennedy's in back of this. Is that true? You know, we're not sure.

[Peter Navarro]

We're hearing some rumors that actually he.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

May have told the President not to do this. I haven't been able to confirm that. But what we're seeing in the reporting, Steve, is that it was two marijuana CEOs that were in the Oval Office in his ear on that. Everyone else in his administration said, don't do it, Mr. President. This isn't good for the American people. But those CEOs we don't know what they said or what was discussed in the Oval for two hours, but it's been widely reported they're the ones that were able to get the President over the finish line on doing this executive order. So today we need a call to action. If you want to find out more about this. Where do they go right now, Luke, what do they read? And then you guys will help supply the phone numbers they should call. But right now, I want everybody just to get informed. We try to get somebody on the other side of this. I couldn't find anybody. We couldn't track down the CEO obviously. Luke, where do people go? Because you're going to happen today or tomorrow. Well, it's hard to defend drug pushing, so I don't blame him.

[Peter Navarro]

No.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Go to learnaboutsam.org, find me on X. Luke Niferatos. We have all of the stuff there. This executive order would be the biggest.

[Peter Navarro]

Move by any president in modern history to normalize drug use.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We are asking for President Trump to follow his own advice. If you go to my X account right now, you'll see the video we just did where we're taking Trump's words. He's telling kids, don't do drugs. This is the advice that the President himself needs.

[Peter Navarro]

Don't normalize drugs. That's got to be your message.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Call the President, call the White House right now. He should be listening to the people, to the parents who have been harmed. All of you out there know you have families that have been impacted by this drug. He needs to hear from the people over these executives. He should listen to his own heart. There's never been a more anti drug president than President Trump is 92nd. Hell, we got 14,000 fleet Marines and sailors in a carrier battle group, a strike force amphib ready group. Tonight I'm sure he's going to address the American people all to stop. He's blowing up drug boats coming here to kill people. He's stopping fentanyl. He's just named you name Fentanyl, weapon of mass destruction. No president in our history has taken more action to rid the plague of drugs from the American people than Donald Trump. Full stop. There's not even a second, not even a close second. This is why this is so. It's strange. It's quite strange. But that's why I want people one more time. I wanna go to your site, I wanna get the information and then I wanted to take it from there. Where they go learnaboutsam.org and then find me On X, Luke Nifferato.

[Peter Navarro]

So you can find everything that you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Need in those two places.

[Peter Navarro]

And here's the final thing. I think the reason why he's being.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Sold on this is it's a midterms play. They're saying it's for the politics. Listen to me loud and clear. Whatever people think about marijuana as medicine.

[Peter Navarro]

Marijuana is no treatment for Trump derangement syndrome at the midterms. It's not gonna solve the problems.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let's deliver for the American people with the economy, with the things that really matter. Thank you, Luke. Appreciate you. Thank you. We've, we've got a great clip today from one of the president's closest advisors. Let's go and play it. And then we will bring that advisor on the show.

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In writing about how.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mexico is imposing new tariffs on Chinese goods. This is a big deal.

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And how it reflects a broader shift among US Allies. So walk us through why this is.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Significant, what it says about the direction of President Trump's 2026 trademark agenda.

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As we look at your op ed in the Financial Times saying Mexico's China tariffs show the rise of Trump's trade template.

[Peter Navarro]

So what President Trump understands is this three dimensional chess that's known as the international trading system. In the beginning, the president imposes protection, defensive tariffs on the world, right? But starting with China with the 301s. Now, how does China respond? Instead of dumping a lot of product here, they're stuck with a bunch of product, so they begin dumping it all over the world. Mexico has been a primary target, Europe, but it's Africa and Latin America. So what we've been doing as the trade team with Jameson Greer, Howard Ludnick leading the way in these negotiations is pointing out to countries like Mexico and continents like Europe that, hey, if you're going to have a prosperous economy and all this is going to work, you've got to develop the same kind of tariff protections as we put them in. It's essentially a global tariff wall against mercantilism and in this case, the mercantilism of China. So what we saw last week, which is an epiphany for the world, is the Mexican Senate voting to impose tariffs, which are roughly similar to the levels we have on China and Europe as we speak, is adopting similar measures. They've already imposed tough measures on China against steel, on EVs. And what it's showing, Maria, to all of those out there in your audience and the rest of this country is that President Trump, we're not doing this alone. This is a Global push. And that's the epiphany of the article in the Financial Times that this is a coordinated global strategy. And I think the most important part of the piece, Maria, is talking directly to China. I've been saying this for more than 10 years, that China, if it's going to be a good neighbor and prosper in this country world, rather than creating conflict, it has to create a social safety net for its people so that they save less and consume more. It's extraordinary, Maria, that a communist country, a people's republic, has virtually no pension or healthcare benefits for their people. It's absurd. It's absurd. And what that does is it forces, it forces the people of China, the hardworking, the Lao Baijing, as Steve Bannon likes to call them, the working class, the MAGA folks of China, they've got to save upwards of 50% or more. They don't consume. And so the Chinese Communist Party exports to the world and steals our jobs in factories and weakens us and everybody else around. So that's the importance of that piece and I'm glad that you pointed it out to Wall Street. If I may, Maria, I want to point out one historical thing today. I don't if you remember this, but on your wonderful program Sunday morning futures on April 6th of this year, I the Dow was down dripped below 40,000. There was all the tariffs. That was the 38,000. And what did I do? I predicted 50,000 on the Dow. And what we're seeing is this stuff takes time and where we're at, we're in, we're in striking distance now of 50,000 on the Dow did the same thing on election day in 2016. I said we'd hit 25,000. And I point this out. People got to be patient with the Trump agenda. It's a Main street agenda. Main Street's going to hear from the boss tonight.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He, he did on election day or the day after election when we were named the winner in 16. Peter did go on squawk and do that. And of course Stephen K. Bannon, the CEO of the campaign and the transition, fired him as a spokesman. But it did hit it. Navarro, Maria Bartiroma, why is she not in the administration? I mean she's a rock star. And of course if you're going to give us a shout out to the Lao Beijing, we're always going to have you on. Talk to us about what this analysis shows us, Dr. Navarro.

[Peter Navarro]

The top line, Steve, is simply that the president in his three dimensional chess world is running a global strategy we're always criticized for not cooperating with our allies, but in fact what we're doing is we're bringing our allies right along with us to stand up to the mercantilism of China. I mean, the reality is we come out, the boss comes out with a hard tariffs on China dating back to the Section 301 tariffs in 2018, right? We begin to erect this defensive protectionist wall to protect our national security or manufacturing base, whatever. So what China immediately did, and you can see this in the charts, is they just start sending their product everywhere else around the world and they start like trashing the markets like in Africa, in Latin America. Mexico is like a huge dumping ground and of course Europe. And so what we've been doing is part of the negotiations where our reciprocal tariffs brought these countries to the table. Mexico, Europe, whatever is we say, hey look, in addition to all the things we want in terms of you cleaning up your act, screwing us, you also need to protect yourself and thereby us against Chinese dumping. And lo and behold, they're doing it. And you know, some of it's kicking and screaming. I mean Europe, Europe is. They got the memo. But half of Europe is controlled by China. But it's a big deal, Steve. It's a really big deal. And I'm so happy Financial Times saw the wisdom of it. You know, you think about it like the Financial Times, global newspapers, like Navarro's publishing something about Mexico and America. Like, how does that matter? Well, here it does, baby. Here it does.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, we gotta bounce. I'm track you down. I'm gonna ask Bonnie if we keep you up past your bedtime tonight, give you your warm milk later because I want to get your thoughts after the President States addresses the nation tonight. It's going to be massively important. We're doing wall to wall coverage all the way to probably 11:00 clock tonight. Dr. Navarro, where can people get you, where can they find your pieces? You're writing great stuff. The Financial Times of London, the paper of the Globalist put this up. Maria Bartiromo loved it. The Warren posse loves it. Where do people go to get more information about you, your social media coordinates and Peter Navarro, your website?

[Peter Navarro]

Yeah, well, peternavara.com is the crossroads for everything. And then I've got X Getter and Truth, Real P Navarro and just check it out. What we're doing, Steve, is a lot of videos now, 60 second videos on the top breaking economic stuff and things like that. So a lot of information in the war room is, I mean you guys you guys are the tip of the spear, man. And I think your audience should never forget how important they are in terms of what's going on. And we gotta win that election in November 26, so people need to kind of realize what the stakes are.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I'll be around.

[Peter Navarro]

Try to remind everybody every once in a while.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I'm sure the president's gonna lay out the plan tonight. Dr. Navarro, great article. Push them all out. Plus the book. You went to prison so the audience doesn't have to. Thank you, sir. And say hi to that lovely Bride, the newlyweds, Dr. Peter Navarro. Incredible. We're gonna go to Berlin next. Alternative for Deutschland. You'll see what happens when somebody talks about, hey, let's work for maga. Let's work with maga. They try to shut him down. Berlin and the Bundestag next in the war room.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, Gold has been on fire recently. So has Silver. Make sure you go check out. Take your phone out and text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898 you get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. This is where they talk about 401ks, IRAs, all of it tax deferred methodologies. Right now, silver is an ounce is worth more than a barrel of oil. I think that's an inflection point, folks. Remember, it's not the price of gold or silver. It's the process that drives value. That's what we've taught you over the last couple of years. Remember we started this and gold was, I don't know, 1000 bucks an ounce, 1100 dollars an ounce, now over 4000 and silver's over 60. So go talk to the experts at Birch Gold, Philip Patrick and the team. And Philip's going to be in Amfest, going to join us hopefully on Friday. We do the show out there. So make sure everybody's, Philip will be there to give you advice in person. And he's really excited about coming out at Saturday night at the New York Young Republican Club. Remember, this is one of the most based groups in America. They've done such amazing work. They had the annual, their annual gala and Jack Posoba gave the keynote. But before then, one of the folks from An Alternative for Deutschland, I remember we had Beechers van Storch on here, I don't know, two weeks ago, 10 days ago, when she's talking about that weekend where alternative for Deutschland AfD was leading in the polls of all the German political parties. And there was tons of stories coming out of Germany of how not just politicians, but the authorities, the elites in Germany that have driven the country into the ground and particularly driven the economy. With this, as we had Dave Walsh on time and time again about how the elites in Germany have de industrialized Germany with this wild embrace of the culture of climate change and how they went to net carbon zero and really took the third largest economy and one of the greatest industrial powers in mankind's history and almost destroyed it. She came on, we talked about that they're trying to use every means in the world to break Alternative for Deutschland, to break the voice of the people over there who are facing many of the same issues that were here in the United States. Marcus Franmeyer, the vice chairman of the party in the Bundestag where they actually have tremendous political power, came over to the, to the gala as every year we have people from Orban's party and Front Nationale and of course Nigel Farage and also from Alternative for Deutschland. There's a lot of commonality, a lot of camaraderie, really enjoy these folks. But this talk on Saturday night because the crowd has had a few adult beverages, so it gets pretty wild. But he gave a very serious talk and made a point that when I heard it and people told me, called me up that night and said this was amazing. He talked about an alliance between MAGA and Alternative for Deutschland that we work on so many of the same things and we've had AFD people on here forever. It was just an interesting idea. And I invited him on the show and he joins us this morning from Berlin. Marcus, first off, just talk about your role in AfD, the direction of AfD, and then I want to get into your proposal that you hit us with on Saturday night in New York City. Sir.

[Marcus Fronmeyer]

Hello, it's a pleasure for me to be in your show and yeah, of course I will start to talk a little bit about the AfD. We are quite new party. The AfD was founded in 2013 and in about 10 years we became the strongest party in whole Germany up to our polls. We have not just two parties in Germany. We're the strongest party at the moment with 72% of the voters. You know, we really try to make Germany great again and fix all of these problems. Problems what you just mentioned, when it comes up to the energy crisis in Germany, the crazy taxes in Germany or when it's about a mass migration. And I think we have a lot of things in common with the MAGA movement, with the Trump movement in the US and yeah, I believe it's important to tighten our cooperation.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Marcus, tell us how. Because German politics after World War II, over the next 40 or 50, 60 years, got pretty ossified. You had the Christian Democrats, you got socialists, you got Greens. How did Alternative for Deutschland, what do you mean? First of, what was the alternative you proposed? And how did you guys kind of catch fire? And now you poll with the authorities trying to destroy you and put informants in there, all of it, the state going out of its way to destroy you. What was it that you guys did that really caught on and has changed the face of German politics to that you can't go to any globalist in any country, or you can't read the Financial Times or the Economist and that they think that you guys are neo Nazis, you're fascists, and you're the biggest danger really to world stability outside of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement? Sir?

[Marcus Fronmeyer]

Well, I think, you know, we are competitor to the old parties and of course they try to fight with whatever they can do against the AfD because in fact, if we gain more and more votes, if we're stronger, they lose a lot of money and also mandates in the parliament. And I think this is, it's a simple thing. That's the reason they're not ready to share something. For them, we're a competitor and they try to fight with whatever they can. I mean, they're even using a domestic intelligence service against the AfD. They try to ban us from the ballots, to remove us from the ballots for now. It even happened that some of our guys who tried to be a candidate for mayor, for a local mayor, for him, it was not allowed to be a candidate because in their point of view, he's against the constitution and so on. So to make it short, what we face in Germany at the moment is really something, what I would not any longer describe as a democracy. They really try to forbid and ban the AfD just because we're quite successful. And the question is, why the AFD is that successful? The answer is simple. The other parties, they opened the borders. In 2015, we had to face a mass migration. It was like crazy. Millions of young people, especially from Muslim and African countries, entered Germany. Now we have a situation that every 18 minutes people are attacked by a guy with a knife. And you know, normally the person who is attacking our citizens is not born in Germany. And that's a huge problem. What we have to face at the moment, they're not willing to integrate, they're not willing to respect our rules, to be a part of society. Most of them even not ready to find a job and do something for this society, pay taxes and so on. So it's actually, it's simple. And to be honest, you cannot be successful as a party or a movement if you allow that this kind of things are happening in your own country.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Marcus, here's where I think in America it's hard for us to kind of grapple with what is happening with you guys. Germany has had such a great impact on Western culture, Western civilization, music, painting, literature. What is it about your elites that they feel, I mean, why is it working class people and young people that are defending the civilization and culture of Germany, yet you have these well educated elites that are globalists that want to welcome the world in and radically change Germany. What is their pitch? What's the elite's pitch to the German people about this?

[Marcus Fronmeyer]

Look, I think they try to give people in Germany the feeling that they're responsible for almost everything what happened, you know, worse in the world. They tell them because, for example, of our past we have to be more responsible than other countries. And don't get me wrong, I think it's important that the Germans are able, you know, to, to remember what happened in the past, also the dark sides. But you also need to offer especially young people something positive about your own country. Otherwise it will be not, they will be not able to identify with Germany and what the elites are doing. They telling people you have to, for example, rebuild Gaza, you have to rebuild Ukraine, you have to be responsible for what happened in Syria and so on. And this is what they offer them also nothing positive about our own heritage, about our own culture. This, this what happens in Germany at the moment. In my point of view it's based on negative aspects and on cancel culture and on the idea that, you know, that a country should have no borders, everyone can come to Germany no matter what. So it's, it's, you know, it's a bit, they're going crazy to make it short.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But I think one of the reasons they're going crazy is that these are smart, cunning people. They look at the math, they look at your intensity, they look at the eastern part of the country. Young people, they understand unless they do something undemocratic and deep state to basically crush you, that inevitably you're going to take power and you guys are going to run Germany. Do you believe that the deep state elite in Germany is prepared to turn the country over if you win by democratic means? Which looks like you guys are on a roll. Do you think they're prepared to take turn leadership of the German nation over to alternative for Deutschland? Sir.

[Marcus Fronmeyer]

That'S a really good question. I mean I can tell you now what they already announced. They said for example, that if the AfD would win the elections, for example in the east of Germany, they would start to delete all files and information from the domestic intelligence services. And so I'm quite sure that they're not really ready and willing to, to let AVD in power. I mean they start to have this so called firewall. In my point of view it's really a kind of undemocratic idea. They try to tell to all other parties and to the society if you're cooperating with the afd, you're normalizing right wing extremism and so on and that's the reason why we have this firewall. All other parties can just cooperate between each other, but not with the AfD. So in fact they steal the voice of millions of people in Germany because they cannot be part of a democratic process. This is what happens at the moment. So, I mean, in the east, I'm pretty sure that soon the AfD is that strong, that we have no need for a partner. There's no need any longer for cooperation. The party, you know, up to the polls we will get something like 39, 40% of the votes. And in Germany, this is enough to be in power alone. But in the west of Germany, it's a little bit different. You need to know that the west of Germany was all the time something like a powerhouse. Especially my region, I'm from Baden Wurttemberg, it's in the southwest of Germany. And companies like Mercedes Benz, like Bosch or for example Porsche are located in my region. And because of the, you know, of the weird political styles, style and actions of the cdu, the party of Merz, and also because the regional cdu, this region of Germany is really suffering. Every month about 200 companies are bankrupt. We lose a lot of jobs in this region. I would say it will be, if we cannot stop this, something like a Detroit, you know. And so there's a big change. So I'm quite optimistic. I mean, it's sad on the one hand, but on the other hand, I have to say because of this, what happens in the south of Germany soon the AfD will be also the leading party of the in the west. We are now the number two in the west and I'm quite optimistic that soon we will be number one.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Marcus, we got a bounce. Where's your social media? I'll talk to you afterwards. People are very excited about your talk about alliance between Maga and AfD. Where do people go on social media to find out more about you, sir.

[Marcus Fronmeyer]

I'm on X. My name on X is Marcus Fronemaier and you also can find me on Instagram and Facebook, TikTok and so on. So just, you know, search for my name and you can support us. It would be amazing because we need a lot of support. I'm running in 2026 for the regional election.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We do support you. We love you guys. We love alternate for Deutschlande. I'll talk to you after the show. Marcus Frondmann, thank you a lot. Thank you so much. Thank you for a great speech. Short break, back in the worm in a moment.

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[Mike Lindell]

Well, I think the citizens of Minnesota, I think it's kind of the same nationwide. But he's got to give us a big message of hope and that includes the safety, people's safety, the fraud. It's not just Minnesota. Minnesota is just the tip of the spear what's getting everything opened up. You're hearing now all over the country, this goes far and wide. Our welfare programs that have been robbed blind by these illegals and not just Somalians. Maybe this stuff goes far and wide. And you know, I bringing that up and then the economy, I hope, you know, he gives people hope because there's a lot of people that don't believe it's moving good. There's some people believing it is going great and a lot of maybe he reveals new things that need to come out. You know, one of the things I've said we've got to get our shipping prices down. It affects every consumer thing we buy from groceries to products and that becomes the price of, of diesel fuel. And there's so many regulations that were put into place over the last 10 years that these got to be looked into. But he's done it before. We brought those prices down. So I hope he gives us a great message here of hope. And then also, Steve, election platforms. I know he even announced it the other day. He's got big news coming out about the you guys, not just about the 2020 election, but all of our election platforms to secure him. There's a poll coming out tomorrow, I believe by Rasmussen. That is how do the people feel in this country about our house, you know, how high up our elections, secure elections. And I did one in Minnesota in August and it was in the top three of their concerns as me running for governor. And Steve, I think you're gonna find out everyone in this country, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, you want secure elections. And I hope that that's in his messaging tonight because he has really hit that hard. I know this for a fact over the last eight months. Well, actually for four and a half years, as you know. So I think, I just hope it's a great message of hope and uniting the people tonight. I think that people, because he's fighting here in Minnesota, he's fighting all the stuff going on here, all the fraud. Then you got Waltz and all these people coming out going, nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. We're going to ban. We're going to ban guns. That's Waltz's new one. We're going to ban guns. People need to hear his voice and the truth of what's going on and then get the hope. I think that's really important that the message gives people hope.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We're going to toss to the Charlie Kirk show now with Andrew Colvette in the team. They got posted and coming up, we're going to be back. You got Gruber, you got Eric Bolling, all of it starting at 5, wall to wall coverage. Speech starts at 9. Return to the speech. Afterwards, we're gonna have all the analysts and folks that are close to Real America's Voice on. We're probably gonna go until we run out of things to talk about which will be, I don't know, 11 o'.

[Mike Lindell]

Clock.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But stay tuned to Real America's voice all day. Mike Lindell, they love the fact of what you're doing. The posse has your back. You've been so impressive. I got to tell people around the globe, the world media is taking this 100 times more serious. I mean, you know why? Because they understand Mike Lindell is a guy can beat Tim Walls and turn Minnesota maga right. Because Minnesota got a lot of patriots up there, Right? They're just looking for a leader. But we got to cut, we got to cut to the chase. This is Christmas. We want a deal. Talk to us about deals, sir.

[Mike Lindell]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you. Most powerful promo code in the business. God bless you, Mike Lindell. You're a good man. Charlie Kirk show next with Andrew Corvette. We're back at 5:00pm Eastern Eastern Standard Time and then 8:45 tonight in Studio 6B for the address of the President of the United States.

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