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Monday 29th December year of Allure 2025 we're going to get to the Ukraine situation from yesterday in Israel today. In a moment, Dave. Brett, you've got some other observations on this situation of American citizens interests being put first.
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Sir yeah, most all this covered by Rosemary Jenks at immigration accountability project iaproject.org go support her right now. All political views are my own, but we made some big press in India a few weeks ago when we reported with your great podcaster, 72% of H1B visas in the world come from India, only 12% from China. There's a marker right there. And of that, 220,000 H1Bs are coming from one district, one processing center in Madras, India. That's three times the legal congressional cap. So we made some huge news there. I just want to do a few quick summary points on the Somalia thing. The one thing I haven't heard yet First, Assistant U.S. attorney Joe Thompson said during a news conference that federal officials suspect a significant portion New York Times A significant portion of the roughly $18 billion paid out by Medicaid to Minnesota programs was Fraudulent. The Hill leads today with, well, there's a few millions. And, you know, Nick Shirley's out there doing better reporting than the New York Times and the Hill, and they're just deceptively covering it. Right. The press has been along this the whole time. Two more stats. One defendant in These cases submitted 1.4 million in fraudulent claims using some money to buy cryptocurrency. Next point, 80,000 Somalians, roughly in the Twin Cities. 85% language other than English overall. Bottom line. Point which Rosemary Jenks raised is this mass immigration project is over. We need to end it. We need an absolute moratorium for years. And people email in and say, oh, but I know this good person. And the problem is the corruption and this mass fraud has hurt the innocents. That's what people don't get. You need a policy rule that solves this corruption because it's gotten so bad. And that. That 12 billion we're talking about, that's just in one state. Wait till you see the nationwide numbers that emerge from this scam.
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Oh, this. Okay, remember, this is why they've got sanctuary cities. This is why they won't let they go to court so that President Trump can't federalize the troops to protect ice. They're adamantly. The Hill they'll die on is the mass deportations because that guts their political power. This is all about their political power. Dave, hang on for a second. You're going to stick with me. We've got a lot to go through. So let me bring in Kurt Mills first off for the overview on Ukraine. Then I got Thayer and Ben with me. So, Kurt, just walk me through your. Because President Trump has put in a massive effort in clearly on this. I'm not sure when I hear the press conferences and all this back and forth, they keep saying it's close. I'm not sure what progress is actually really being made, because I then see the readouts later from the Russians and they're pretty adamant there's not going to be. There can't be any security guarantee, can't be any troops. They're pretty adamant about what they've got and they're pretty dug in. And they keep shelling. I mean, over the Christmas holiday, the shelling of Kyiv was about as bad as you got. And now they're shelling the port of Odessa. They continue to grind on. They say, absolutely, we will not do a ceasefire, we won't do anything. What's your overall assessment of what's really happening here?
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Well, I think it's pretty tough we're closing in about a year of President Trump's second term here, and this is now, fair or not, going to be remembered as Trump's war unless he can wrap this up. I think Trump is clearly invested in this. He brought them to his home, he brought Zelensky to the United States once again. He has his entire top cadre there, pretty much. But I think there's a genuine concern that either the administration or the President himself doesn't fully understand the brief here. The Russians are fine with the war continuing. This war was, I think, a strategic mistake by Vladimir Putin, but he's recovered from it and they're slowly grinding territory and they're able to project power deep into this country, as evidenced by this sort of savage attack on Kiev over the weekend. It was clearly a negotiating tactic and their demands are pretty hard line. Behind door letter A is a set of demands that they can live with. And behind door letter B is keeping the Russian war machine going, which is very tied into their economy and their entire social contract at this point. So from Putin's perspective, you know, two and a half years removed from the Prigozhin coup, this is win, win.
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When we had the 28 points or whatever, were we really actually much closer to a deal before Marco and the globalists got involved here and then retorqued this? And my point is that we could walk away. You can't walk away from Minnesota and Somalia, you can't walk away from Chicago, you can't walk away from what Mondami is about to turn New York City into. That is the United States of America and our greatest cities. And they've turned it into, they've turned these into hellholes, which is a cash machine of how they generate it. And this is why we're having this event in Texas, because they're trying to do in Texas the exact same thing they've done in Chicago, they've done in Minneapolis, they're doing in New York. And this is why you end up with a Mandami, a guy from Uganda that's now the mayor, you know, a Marxist jihadist that now is the mayor of New York City. But you can walk away from Ukraine. The eastern, Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine has nothing to do with the vital national security interests of the United States. So our option here is just like, hey, guys, we tried. President Trump's put in a monumental effort. I mean, he should get the Nobel Peace Prize just on what he's done to date. But the 28 point plan we had was closer to reality of something that could happen until Marco and the globalists got involved. And now we got, now we got Zelensky making up his own plan and showing up. I'm just not sure how much progress is happening, particularly when you read the read of the Russians. It's pretty, it's pretty standard on what they're saying they're prepared to tolerate and they're not. And they've kind of won on the battlefield. And unless the Europeans are prepared to put in troops, money, arms of which none of them are because they're all broke and they haven't funded their own defense for decade after decade after decade because they leaned on the United States to do it. So I don't really understand. I guess I don't know if it's performative or what, but I don't see this thing getting done with. And Zelenskyy's talking about. He asked for a 50 year security guarantee, sir.
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Yeah. As Congresswoman Greene said over the weekend on the, on the successive meetings between Netanyahu and Zelensky, can we just do America for a little while? Look, the President is very interested in foreign policy, and as far as I'm concerned, that's good for business for me personally. But it's clear that the administration in its first year was somewhat distracted by foreign affairs. And part of that has been their inability to wind down the two major wars, one in the Middle east and one in Eastern Europe, that Washington is frankly a financier of. I think you're quite right. In the mid Autumn, when the 28 point plan first came through, that was a set of demands that was pretty close to ending the war. And you could tell because one side was amenable and our side, the Ukrainians and the Europeans, were pretty aghast. That means we were pretty close to the Russian understanding of what it would take to end this war, which is what it's going to have to be, or else it's just going to be status quo. And more and more militarism for the Ukrainian government in Kiev. And I think that's pretty clear. You know, Zelenskyy doesn't sound like a man who's really close to making a deal. He said that Putin is this evil person. Regardless of what you think of that, that's not how someone talks before they're about to shake someone's hand unless there's something we don't know. And yes, you're qu right. Rubio, the Secretary of State, is the ostensible chief diplomat of the United States. But he seems pretty averse to diplomacy. He's a hawk on Russia, Ukraine, He's a hawk on Middle Eastern issues. And of course, he's an uber hawk on this sort of Venezuela distraction. And so it's very curious why he's considered to be so competent when his core function diplomacy. We've seen a widening of these wars this year, not a narrowing.
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I mean, President Trump, look, he says, look, I want to stop the killing. And he's put so much time and effort in this. I do agree, even, look, you have to deal with the facts that you have. He was trying to wind down the kinetic part of the Third World War and do it as rapidly as possible. But the geopolitical reality, particularly in Ukraine, is that the Russians. The Russians have, you know, they don't have a history of backing the tanks up and giving up territory that they took on the battlefield. That just happens to be reality. And if the Europeans got something to say about it and do about it, then go with it. It's not that we're holding it back. France has a lot of talk. They're broke. The Fifth Republic's about to collapse. Starmer's got no money, no troops, no arms. Germany's now heading towards a major financial crisis because of their nutcase cult like net zero carbon regime to deindustrialize themselves. The Italians. Meloni talks a good game, but she doesn't put any money them do. That's why the Russians look at this and think it's a joke. The only thing the Europeans are going to do is steal their money, the $300 billion. And when that was finally, when Hungary and Poland stood up and said, we're not going to do that because you do that, they said that's an act of war and they could come blowing up over here and we're not going to have it. That got shut down. So hang on for a second. Just stay right there. Because I got to ask you about Netanyahu. Dr. Thayer, you've got some issues with this thing of security guarantees. Just walk me through. You've got a couple of bullet points you think that people ought to be aware of. What do you got? Sure.
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Steve, great to join you. First point is that this is something the United States should not do. It's important to recognize what a security commitment is. A security commitment is a pledge by the United States that it will use all of its might if necessary, including a nuclear, employing our strategic nuclear arsenal to advance the particular end. So making a security commitment to Ukraine means we're pledging if it comes to it, to use nuclear weapons for Ukrainian security. We're making Ukraine the 51st state. And Ukraine is not the 51st state. It is not a strategic interest of the United States. So that commitment is dangerous in that respect, and we shouldn't do it. We don't make security commitments lightly, and we shouldn't do it in this instance. Moreover, it doesn't.
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What, Hang on. What about this issue of the timing on it? Duration. You give a 15? Because right now they're talking about a 15. Zelensky asked for 50 years. They're talking about 15 years, but a time limit on a security guarantee. What does that actually mean?
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Well, that's a lie. That's a pie crust. It's made to be broken. You don't say, I'll fight a nuclear war for you for 15 years, but 15 years in one day. I won't fight a nuclear war for you. Right. So the 15 years is just a stalking horse to make the commitment, get the commitment landed. So it's not in our interest. It's just the reverse. It prevents the US from improving our relationship with Russia because now we're tied to Ukraine for 15 years. Purportedly, it's going to prevent any rapprochement with China. Second big problem with this is it ties us down to a new commitment at a time where we're hard pressed to deal with the threat from the prc. The center of gravity for our national security is the prc, the People's Republic of China. And this agreement allows really all of those who want to threat deflate, right, minimize the China threat and focus the threat on Russia, say that Russia is a threat to continue that China is the strategic center of gravity for us. And we're supremely foolish not to see this at a time where Beijing is turning up the heat on Taiwan like it hasn't before with the new exercise Peace Justice 2025. And the last point, Steve, is that this really is in the scope of our interests. The PRC wins if we make this strategic commitment to Ukraine and we lose. Right. Xi Jinping is going to be dancing in the street if we do this, because the US Will be occupied in a sideshow for US national security, and Russia is compelled to remain dependent on Beijing as a result of it. It's as dangerous as the blank check that Germany gave Austria Hungary in July of 1914 that allowed Austria to escalate. So, look, we didn't, you know, Xi.
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Jinping, I tell you what, hangers, hang on a second. We're gonna get back to you take a short commercial break. Yes, the CCP is doing a massive live fire naval exercise, or I guess it's all hands on deck exercise, showing how they can envelop Taiwan even as we speak. In fact, Captain Fennell will be on tomorrow. We're going to break all that down, but just a little love tap from the CCP about the chip manufacturing Goliath that is Taiwan. Short break. Back in the room in a moment.
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Welcome back. Kurt Mills, Breaking news on Reuters. What do you got for us?
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Yeah, it appears the Russians are claiming that Zelensky and his military attempted a drone strike on Putin's residence. Not entirely clear which residents, of course, how many homes the Russian president has is a matter of some speculation. Regardless, the foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, says this will change the Russians negotiating position down in Florida. So this looks like a potential 11th hour. You know, real gum in the works here. And you know, whether or not it's true, whether or not the it was actually an act of extreme belligerence by the Ukrainians or the Russians are merely claiming as such, I think that sort of checks out that we don't have. We are at an incomplete point on this deal, which is that President Trump, for all of his efforts, is not going to get the Russians and the Ukrainians to agree to something, at least anytime soon, unless the facts on the ground really change. And look.
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The Russians are pounding Kyiv and Putin keeps saying we're not going to have any ceasefire. And Zelenskyy and this crowd gives as good as they get sometimes. Like if they did this attack, they've been very aggressive in the drone attacks. But if this is even true or close to being true, it shows you we have very little control over the situation on the battlefield. Right. Guys are just slugging it out and going to do what they're going to do. So, Harnwell, your thoughts on this? I know you as head of our international bureau in the Eternal City, you keep your beady eye on this. What do you got for us? Well, look, let's start off with the 50 year term limit, the ask on behalf of Zelensky, because I know that's what we've been discussing on the show so far. My view on that, And I think Dr. Thayer makes some valid points, especially on the idea that 15 years, which is what apparently the US is committed to, is only a token in order to shoehorn the the US in into this and then it will obviously be ignored and extended further on. But my observation on this to start off with, is that the whole 50 year thing, the whole thing is theater, Steve, as I see this, right, the 50 year thing was only ever a theater, theatrical, fake negotiation point so that President Trump could then sort of bring it down to 15 and then come back and say, look, what a great negotiation I've obtained for the American people. Of course, the war audience knows that 15 years is appalling in and of itself. This is a defeat for the America first movement for the reasons that we've been saying right from the beginning of this war, from when Biden was still in the White House, no one ever made the argument and attempted to explain what America's vital national interests are in this. And therefore, as an extension of that absence, 15 years to safeguard what American interest is the question that needs to be asked. Look, so that's the first point I would make about this. This is a defeat for the America first movement. The second point I would make is I think that, you know, and I don't want to take too big a sweeping hit at my own side on this, but I get the impression somewhat, Steve, that folk in the administration are concentrating on the wrong election cycle. They're preening themselves the front runners in the administration for 2028. And they ought to be far more concerned about the midterms because at the present rate, the way things are going, President Trump is going to be impeached after the midterms and that will obviously have a dynamic on 28. But let's talk about 28.
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Well, Steve, I hope you and all the war room posse had a wonderful, blessed Christmas. I know that we certainly did. Here at the Pozo household, we've been praying our rosary daily, and we're making sure to keep all the demons at bay at this wonderful time of our Lord's coming to Earth. Steve, every year at Christmas time, during this break, sort of, you know, when people aren't always going live at Human Events Daily, we run a special series where we do deep dives. People remember the China Files from a couple of years back. Then we did Chronicles the Revolution. We did Tales of the Christians last year. This year we're back again. We're going back to the foreign policy. This is what everyone asked us about. And what better time to do this? President Trump holding his meeting with Zelensky. The phone calls, multiple calls. Now we're hearing with President Putin meeting with Bibi Netanyahu today. What are we doing at human events? It starts at 2pm Eastern. Tales of regime change. Why has the US government and the US establishment embarked in these wars across the Middle east and Eurasia? What is driving it? What are the real factors that are behind all of these efforts? And we come up with a theory. Steve, I think you're gonna love this. We call it the theory of the Two Georges. This is our two Georges theory of American foreign politics. And here's how it goes. Foreign policy. You got George Bush and George Soros. So the theory of the two Georges, George, is something we developed as we were working on this because we go through today's Afghanistan, then we go to Iraq, then we go to Syria, and then we go to Ukraine. And for the neocons who've been very, very upset with me for the last week or so, buckle up, because we are gonna be discussing all of your work for the last 20 or so odd years where you've been sending American dollars and America's sons and the best of middle America to go and die in the sandbox. And we talk about the two Georges, George Bush pushing the war, and then George Soros, the money extraction, the financial extraction, and pushing the system of globalism, the system of LGBT agenda all the way across these areas. So, Steve, this is going to be something that the entire war room posse is going to want to lock into. Because as you watch these scenes play out President Trump holding these high stakes meetings, it will give you an understanding of the. And Trump understands all of this. Trump understands all of this indelibly. He knew all of the cast of characters at the time. This is one of the things and President Trump talked about the very first debate when he went after Jeb Bush. This was one of the things that animated him to get involved in politics in the first place when he saw the insanity of the Iraq war and the neocons pushing for it. That's why the entire war room posse needs to lock into this series Tales of Regime Change. And we've got great cast subject matter experts, Joshua Lysik, Mike Benz even joins us.
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Can you hang over a second every day. And I believe we're talking to, talking about get it up on the war room rumble page as well.
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Yeah. No, no, no. We'll stream it as it comes across. So now that I got you and Kurt Mills is here, I want to talk about this afternoon. I think it's 4:30 and we're going to cover it live. Bibi's making, I don't know, his fifth trip to the White House or Mar a Lago to see the president. And we know where the Israel first crowd stands on this. And he's making his pitch once again for the Greater Israel Project. And now they've got a problem with Turkey providing guarantee. Look, I'm not a two state solution guy, but the Israel first crowd brought this on themselves. They've got a two state solution in Gaza with Qatar writing hundreds of billions of dollars and the Turks are going to provide security and they don't like that. And they're trying to unwind what President Trump's doing there. They're also, you know, maniacally focused on once again, now it's ballistic missiles. They got to come with something else. Since they've already their one trick pony about the nuclear program is kind of President Trump ended that with the 12 Day War. But you were pretty viciously attacked. I mean, isn't a lot of this Israel first crowd just vehemently anti Catholic and anti Christian? Mark Levin attacking you for saying the rosary and showing your rosary at turning point. Doesn't that show just a vicious anti Catholicism and anti Christianity perspective of this Israel first crowd, sir?
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Well, Steve, I don't know if he speaks for all of them, but I'LL simply say this. The last week has taught me and confirmed for me more than anything else I think in my entire life the power of the Holy Rosary. And I've got mine right here. This is my brand new rosary which I received custom made. It's a Polish inspired rosary. So we've got Maximilian Kolbe, we've got St. Michael the Archangel as well. We've got Saint Pope John Paul II there. So you know, really just an amazing custom rosary. Put the links up to it online for people if they want to get their own made and look, it's really simple folks. It's really simple. In our time, in times like this, we need to focus on the things that are higher than us, higher than our own interests, higher than our own self interests. And when I stood there at the memorial for Charlie and held up my rosary, that was an invocation of God. That was an invocation of the saints, an invocation of St. Michael. And I don't know why Mark Levin chose that picture of me to attack. But I'll simply say this, Mark, if you want to come pray a rosary with me, you're more than welcome and I will always welcome you to do that. And in fact, I hope that Mark watches the Regime Change series that we've set up at Human Events daily because a lot of his work is featured very prominently in it.
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He's, he's like a, his reaction, Jack was like a vampire. When they see the, when they see the Holy rosary, right, it's like a vampire all of a sudden they start, their heads blow up.
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That venom right away he's a very. Hey. He's apparently anti Catholic. You could not see, you cannot see, you cannot see that photo of you at Charlie's, at Charlie's memorial service and attack it. Would he call you a crackpot after some guy called you a piece of for putting it up? That shows you everything. They're very anti Catholic. Okay. Variantly anti Catholic.
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This is something my family prayed for hundreds of years and we're never gonna to stop. Ever.
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Yeah, I don't know if you can pray this away. Don't think you can pray this.
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We. We're going to go to, we're going to go to Kurt Mills, Jack Boba. We're going to talk about the Greater Israel Project. What Netanyahu selling today. Short commercial break. Back in the war in a moment.
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Okay, I can post. So Jack, just hang over a second. I want to get you in on this with Kurt Mills. So Kurt, but in the logic of Netanyahu, he does have, I mean he's sitting there going, hey, the serious situation is because the new regime there, the isis, al Qaeda regime is a Turkish proxy. He's got now Turkey is going to be in the mainland of Israel in Gaza as a security guarantor. Witkoff and Jared are meeting with Egyptians, Qatar and Turks last Friday for an all day meeting without the Israelis. Everywhere he looks, even if you look at this Somaliland and Somalia situation, the United States, I think as you correctly observe all the time, kind of invited Turkey in years ago. So everywhere he looks he's got Qatar writing checks and he's got Turks providing security. And in the Greater Israel Project. That doesn't make sense because they're saying Turkey's a big problem for us, sir. So what do you expect? Today he's coming, he's pitching a new expanded war with the Persians, but he's also going to make a pretty hard pitch about you got to stop this whole thing in Gaza right now. It's not going to work. Hamas is not going to disarm. I can't allow the Turks to run the place. And in Syria, you're basically America, you are the running dogs for the Turks in supporting this radical Islamist regime up there.
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Sir, I think he'll be a little careful on Gaza because the president has such pride in the peace deal that they brokered in over the autumn. So additionally, they're going to see how many people they can just kill, frankly and get away with it. Just this morning they announced that the Israelis assassinated the Hamas spokesman some time ago in replacement of another guy basically. I think on Gaza it's probably status quo.
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But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, Hamas, but Hamas, Hamas is also just look at the deal. They're not actually bending over backwards to disarm. I mean, I think that they've made a calculation here that they're going to keep until somebody actually forces them to do it. And right now they haven't decided on which country's going to do it. Even Qatar and the Turks don't want to do it. I mean Hamas is Sitting there going, we're not going to ever really fulfill the last part of this. Right. They're not going to disarm because they're saying if we disarm, they're going to kill us all. Correct?
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Yeah. I mean, there's no coherent way to achieve the core. This is classic Israel, which is genius of tactics, incoherence and strategy. There's no coherent way to, quote, destroy Hamas, which is the stated war aim of Netanyahu. Hamas is a reality in Palestine. It's very possible a deal could be brokered that could blend some of the more moderates into a future Palestinian government. But as of today, there's no real plan to move these people or just murder them all or to have any durable process that gets rid of Hamas is basically an armistice. And the Israelis are seeing how quickly they can violate it or how much they can violate it. As for the wider Middle east, yeah, Netanyahu is going to do what he normally does, his business as usual. He's going to come to Washington, or he's going to come to Palm beach in this case, and he's going to come with a list of demands and new wars that he wants while Washington to underwrite. And he's going to have a particular pressing nature this time, as opposed to all the other times that he's come to President Trump. Because Netanyahu is probably running for reelection in Q1 of 2026. And as you mentioned earlier in the show, he has changed the goalpost on Iran. It is now ICBMs, the missiles, which is, you know, had been sort of floated before, but it's an entirely new metric, basically, in the public sphere. And then as for the Turks and the Qataris, yeah, I think it's pretty clear for all of the investment that Israel has put on Iran, meanwhile, sort of Turkish Qatari access has emerged that has checked Israel's ambitions in the region. And they're going to keep asking Washington to intervene on its behalf. You see basically Israeli mouthpieces in Washington.
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Already arguing, but President Trump, the architecture of this coming off the Abraham Accords looks like it's pretty set. I mean, President Trump actually has and is very close. Obviously, there's some big things that still have to be done, but you're a million miles closer to a real deal there than you are in the Ukraine, where the two sides are slugging out and going after each other. Attacking Putin's home. Putin is over Christmas is really cutting out the power and the heat in the capital of Kiev. Here, President Trump's Got an architecture and you do have sit downs. Looks like progress is being made with Jarv and Wyckoff, with the Turks and the Qataris all the time. So what is the argument actually they're going to make today that could get any traction with, you know, because Jarrett's going to be there, Wykoff's going to be there, that could get any traction with the Trump administration?
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I just think residual sympathy for the Israelis, residual deference to Netanyahu. There was reporting over the weekend in Axios that basically Netanyahu has exhausted his will with pretty much everyone on Trump's team other than Trump, which is curious given their torrid relationship the last 10 years. But I think the reality is you're right, but there's a major X factor that makes, I think, the Middle east portfolio potentially more unstable, which is that if there's a new war that opens up in Iran and if the Israelis get their long sought after goal of regime change there, they'll pivot to other players in the region, whether that be Turkey or Pakistan, who knows what's next. And it's a sort of permanent engine of Netanyahu's political project. He needs the wars to keep going. It's not even about victory. It's related to the lack of a plan to get rid of Hamas. He just needs the war to keep going in order to survive politically. And in that sense, Netanyahu may be remembered as the greatest enemy of the Israelis.
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People. Hang on for one second. I got Philip Patrick by phone. I've asked Philip to jump in here. I'm going to get to Jack Basopi and Kurt. Back in a second, Philip. Everybody over the weekend wants to know what's the situation with Silver? What is Birch Gold looking at? Because this has been. It's been a crazy ride in the last 72 hours. What do you got for us, sir? Yeah, I think silver just reminded people what kind of market this really is. It ran to $80, dropped $9 almost instantly. It wasn't a failure. This was a stress test. People have to remember Silver doesn't just drift higher like stocks. It surges, breaks, it resets, and then it keeps going. Gold tends to move first, Silver follows. But it's never polite. We saw a massive run this year, essentially on the back of fundamentals, and then we saw a big drop this morning, about $9. What happened when Silver spikes this fast? Leverage tends to pile in, momentum traders chase and paper positioning starts to stretch, and then what we see is margins start to rise. And this time it wasn't theoretical. On Friday, Comex officially raised margin requirements on silver and other precious metals. When that happens, we cans don't get to argue fundamentals. They either post cash, they sell and that's what happened. This was a structural sell off. People have to remember silver is thin, it's leveraged and air pockets are normal. Every major silver bull market looks like this. It's violent upside, violent reset and then a stronger base. This is price discovery, not a top in the market that we're seeing. I take it this is also not for the uninitiated. How do people get access to to you right now? Because I know people have tons of questions, particularly people who have participated in gold with you over the last couple years about this. Every time anybody posts something it goes viral and I know people are very focused on this. So where do they go to get the best thinking from Birchgold it's very simple. It's birchgold.com Bannon again. Birchgold.com Bannon that'll get them access to the information. A ton of stuff on on silver as well as gold and of course access to the end of the dollar empire reports as well as the Patriots edition as well. They've got until January to get that. So birchgold.com forward/bannon Philip Patrick, thank you so much for coming in from London by phone. Appreciate you. That's the dedication those guys have. Even on holiday they will jump on. Jack. Jack Besopic still with me. Poso your thoughts about Kurt Mills, what his comments, his observations in this meeting this afternoon with Netanyahu.
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Well Steve, I think it's very clear to understand that political ramifications have always played a huge part of this. You and I talked about this last summer during the anti Iran operations where Bibi Netanyahu very barely held on when a vote of no confidence was being held in the Knesset. So we know that politics have driven these decisions quite a bit. We also talked about this vis a vis Ukraine because you see the leaders of Western Europe, one of the main reasons the leaders of Western Europe, the eu, they don't want peace with Russia is because they're using the threat of Russia, they're using the threat of war to distract their populations from their cratering economies that are completely being sucked dry. The German manufacturing sector that's completely collapsed, collapsed. And the massive migrant crisis that they've been enacted, that's been enacted upon them, raping the little girls, destroying their Christmas markets, blowing up their churches, setting everything on fire. And that's been going on for 10 years now. But what do they do? They say, oh, no, you gotta worry about Putin. You gotta worry about Putin. So the law of the war drags on. The ability they have to use that as a scapegoat to distract from what's going on in their own backyard. So the populace will be more scared about that than they will what's actually happening. But Steve, we do talk about this. You mentioned you call it the Greater Israel Project. Well, what we do in specifically the Iraq war episode of Tales of Regime Change is we go back to all the way back to 1996 and to a document made by Richard Perle. And Richard Perl at the time was working for a study group with Bibi Netanyahu. And this was called the Clean Break document. Now, Pearl, he himself had been a staffer for Scoob Thompson. And this. So he goes all the way back. He's in the firmament there. He's in this neocon administration of George H.W. bush, which then many of which translate over to the administration of George W. Bush. So, Steve, when we talk about the two George's theory of American foreign policy, George Bush, George Soros, one of the ones that we have to dig into is this Clean Break strategy. And in that strategy they lay out that the best plan for peace for the state of Israel would be to go throughout their neighbors, go throughout the Middle East. And this is all documented. Everyone can go look at it. The document's been out public for a long time. And they say what we need is a series of regime change wars with all of the Arab countries surrounding us. So what do they look at? They look at Iraq, they look at Syria, they look at Libya, they look at all of the countries. Lebanon is a huge part of this. And then the final, what they would call the head of the snake is Iran. Regime change in Iran. Now, fast forward to last summer again, what did we see? President Trump says we're gonna take out the nuclear sites. But we also heard a contingent of people calling for full on regime change in Tehran. Mark Levin specifically was one of the people who was screaming. You could go watch the video screen screaming, pounding on his desk, demanding that President Trump go for a full on invasion of Iran. Full on boots on the ground, full on American troops being committed to this project the same way that he supported it in Iraq. So what are we talking about here? We're talking about a project that goes all the way back to the 1990s. That's not being done, that was not created for the security of America. It was created for the security of another state. And it can't be separated from the George W. Bush administration because it was produced and executed by many of the very same people.
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No. Where do people go, Jack, to see this? Starting a day at 2 o' clock on Human Events Daily. Where do people go? What's your social media?
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Yeah, we're up on Human Events Daily. I want everyone to subscribe to the podcast because just in case the Twitter's been doing weird things to my account. So not sure what's happening there. So you got to subscribe to the podcast Humanevents Daily. Go and see it there. And it's funny, Steve, Speaking of all of this, how all of this started when back on December 22nd, I broke the story that it was in fact Mark Levin's stepson who brought Jonathan Pollard, the convicted traitor, into the US Embassy in Jerusalem.
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Wow. Funny how Mossad works. Funny how Mossad works. Well, Jack, you're getting the better of this anti Catholic, anti Christian approach. It's not going to work. Jack Posobic, thank you. Looking forward to 2:00'. Clock. Maybe get you back on the evening show. Kurt Mills is going to short commercial break. Back in the warm in a moment. Thank you, sir. We will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Kurt Mills this is why we got Posobec today at 2. That's going to tee up the BB. We're going to live stream it everywhere. It's going to tee up the BB meeting folks. Just like yesterday. We're going to have to play it by ear. Supposed to start I think about 4:30. We're going to have coverage wall to wall all the way through our shows in the evening. But as you know, you have no earthy idea how long these things are going to go. Kurt Mills Thoughts?
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Yeah, no, I'm still sort of reeling from a Jack Posovic reference of the Clean Break memo. I'm going to have a pep in my step the rest of the day. I suspect this is a memorandum that was Prepared for future Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by Richard Pearl and David Wurmser, who later became key Bush administration officials, I think is basically the Rosetta Stone of modern neoconservatism. Its goal, and in the subtitle was securing the realm, quote, unquote. And the realm of course was Israel. So this is American officials writing for a future Israeli prime minister and sort of monolithic Israeli prime minister. Highly unusual. Very weird. Definitely not the pure pursuit of US national interest.
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Yeah. Where do people go for all your writings today? You're going to be hopefully helping us with this coverage this afternoon. Where do people go?
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Sure. It's urt m I l l s on x urt mills and the magazine was founded in 2002 by Pat Buchanan and friends against said Iraq war. And you can find us at ww.theamericanconservative.com we actually just launched this month's cover piece today by Nick Rowan. It's all about the Ukraine, Russia war. He was in Kiev a few weeks ago before the latest round of. There it is. Ukraine's fading Western dream before the latest round of bombing and these new negotiations. So yeah, check out the magazine. Check out my.
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It's getting rough. Yeah. Say a prayer for President Trump, man, as he tries to work that one in this one today. Talk about God. Get the pressure of the world on his shoulders. Kurt Mills, thank you so much brother. Look forward to seeing you maybe hopefully this afternoon. Although I don't know how much we're gonna know. It starts at 4:30. The thing could last for a while. Anyway, we're gonna play it by ear, folks. Mike Lindell, we got a couple of minutes. You were great this morning earlier. Now you're going to come back and sell me a pillow. What do you got? Right on. Well, what we're doing everybody, this is a War Room Posse exclusive. We did have items that we didn't get sold for Christmas. This is the New Year's sale that we're doing. You got the six piece mattress toppers made in the USA and the MyPillow Premium save 50%. 149.98 is low on the on the mattress toppers. But here it is, the War Room free shipping sale exclusive. So get those big ticket items and the Giza dream sheets. We had one whole, whole shipment come in right at Christmas so we didn't get it in time. But they're in now. I'm going to leave them on sale for you guys. 29.98 as low as 29.9, 8. So go to mypillow.com war room and there you see it. We just got in. Member the cross as we ran out. We got those in. They came in on Monday. So you get the crosses. We're going to leave them. You save $80 a piece for the War Room Posse and Made in the usa. And so you've got all of these specials that we have for Christmas and we've added to them for this New Year's special. There you see the mattress stopper and our mattresses. We're all back to work. Everybody making our mattresses 100% made in the USA. We're all back to work. Everybody making our mattresses 100% made in THE USA. Take advantage of that free shipping. And that's the one thing that has raised prices all over our country is high price shipping. It's free with my employee paid, employee owned company. We thank you. Promo code war room 800-873-1062. Say hello to my wonderful USA agents that answer the phone. Mike Lindell, fight on, sir. Everybody goes today and support MyPillow. Appreciate you, sir. Most powerful promo code in the business. Joe Allen, you and I are going to spend some time in the evening show, but I want to give people a heads up over the weekend. State of the Union Dana Bash spent the entire hour, I Think yesterday on AI DeSantis. Bernie Sanders are now all waking to the fact of what we've been preaching here for a while is that this is one of the most important, if not the most important issue facing us. Sir.
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Yes, Steve, you know, it's as if they trained an AI on the war room, fed it into Jake Tapper and Bernie Sanders and said give us a socialist version. It was, it's very good. I think that people like Bernie Sanders have learned what the abbreviation AI stands for. It's very cute sometimes to hear him talk about it, but it's also really important that he has the gut to actually stand up to the tech companies. A lot of people on the right don't. You do have Ron DeSantis. You do have Senator Josh Hawley. And they also featured Senator Katie Britt from Alabama speaking about this. And the real issue I think that the War Room Posse needs to focus.
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On in this is the immediate, the.
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Urgent issues that AI brings up and that's going to be social psychological issues. State of the Union featured Jonathan Haidt, the social psychologist. He has been on this for a long time. I take many of my own cues from him and these are going to be among the most important issues. These are going to be some of the most important laws passed, child protection laws, laws that, that insist that the companies, when they know the AI systems are causing AI psychosis, that they simply pull the plug and stop it. So I think it's very, very good that you have Bernie Sanders in there taking some of his final swings in his career. I also think that it's oftentimes pretty humorous to hear him talk about the future that he's only just discovered.
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No, and not just that. Bernie Sanders and that entire group of corrupt Democrats are the ones that made the oligarchs Bernie Sanders, where you been? Where you been on antitrust? Where you been on anything that could have broken up this mess? You've been around forever and now you're gonna come. Don't think, hey, don't think. Bernie ain't thinking about 28. Joe Allen. He's got a spring in his step. Those guys, they got nothing else to do. So it's just all talk, talk, talk. But you're, you're correct to see the socialist version of it. Anyway, Joe Allen, we're going to get back to you. Keep fighting. Joe's traveling. We got a lot of developments on where Joe's going to spread the word talks he's going to give, etc. Okay, Charlie Kirk show picks up next. Andrew colvette poso at 2. We're going to stream that. We're going to be back. I think Netanyahu's at Mar Lago 4:35 o'.
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Clock.
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We're going to cover the whole thing live. We got a lot to do this week. A lot of work to get through the end of the year. We're going to run through the 10 ape here at the worm. How's that sound? Okay. Right. Stuff will take us out. We'll be back at five o'. Clock. See you then.
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Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Date: December 29, 2025
This episode of War Room with Stephen K. Bannon centers on the enduring geopolitical crises in Ukraine and the Middle East, mounting concerns over U.S. border and immigration policies, and the principle of putting American interests first in foreign and domestic affairs. The panel of commentators—including Dave Brat, Kurt Mills, Dr. Thayer, Jack Posobiec, and others—offer critical analysis of the Trump administration's handling of the Ukraine war, debate the logic of U.S. security commitments, assess the latest maneuvers in Israeli politics, and touch on the broader implications for U.S. global strategy and domestic stability.
(04:11 - 06:36)
(06:36 - 17:37)
(29:17 - 42:26)
(45:25 - 49:41)
Bannon's Manifesto Statement:
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people…” (03:23)
Jack Posobiec on Prayer & Political Resistance:
“The last week has taught me and confirmed for me more than anything else…the power of the Holy Rosary. …In our time, in times like this, we need to focus on the things that are higher than us…” (30:39)
On the Anti-Catholic Accusations and Religious Liberty:
Bannon and Posobiec repeatedly critique conservative media pundits for alleged anti-Christian bias.
(53:21 - 55:23)
(58:05 - 59:43)
For more details, tune in to the next War Room or explore commentator contributions at Human Events Daily, The American Conservative, and Real America’s Voice.