THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, DECEMBER 30TH, 2025 (EP.#5031)

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: War Room with Stephen K. Bannon – December 30, 2025 (Ep. #5031)

Main Theme and Purpose

In this episode, Stephen K. Bannon and his panel focus on the fallout from a major welfare fraud scandal in Minnesota involving members of the Somali immigrant community. The conversation quickly broadens into a passionate, often incendiary, critique of U.S. immigration and refugee policy, its economic and political consequences, and calls for mass deportations and a 10-year moratorium on all immigration. Panelists repeatedly accuse both major political parties, but especially establishment Republicans and business interests, of enabling the current system for electoral and economic gain, and demand aggressive action to "clean up" America.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Somali Community, Welfare Fraud, and Public Response

[03:16–07:50]

• Speakers: Jacob Frey (Mayor of Minneapolis), Steve Drazkowski, Peggy Flanagan (Lieutenant Governor MN), Stephen K. Bannon, Mike Howell, Steve Cortez
• Context: After initial Somali-language remarks by Mayor Frey, a succession of local political figures and commentators affirm the importance of the Somali community, condemn bigotry, and insist on unity.
• Key Quote:
  • "The Somali community here in Minneapolis has been welcoming and has shown love towards me, and I appreciate it. ... But we have to be honest at times with the problems that we're having in our community." — Stephen K. Bannon (08:33)
  • "I will continue to stand with the Somali community, to be with you, and to do all I can to return the friendship and community that the Somali community has shown me." — Peggy Flanagan (06:36, 28:51)

2. Accusations of Scapegoating and Federal Politicization

[05:29–07:50]

• Steve Cortez criticizes the politicization of the DOJ and FBI, and says the Somali community is being scapegoated by the far right:
  • "Those people are being scapegoated ... and that community is being scapegoated in a way that certainly serves the far right... and that's inappropriate. Absolutely." — Steve Cortez (05:29)
• Steve Drazkowski and others respond by accusing federal agencies and the mainstream media of waging "war" on ordinary Americans.

3. Bannon’s Framing: Immigration as a Systemic Threat

[10:00–14:27]

• Bannon launches a monologue blaming "deep corruption" for mass migration, tying it to election strategy ("they have to import these votes"), and calls the entire system a "boil [that must be] lanced."
  • "This is the deep corruption in how they bring the invaders in, how they pay for the invaders on your money. ... They have to import these votes." — Stephen K. Bannon (10:41–14:27)
• Bannon claims a coordinated left-wing plot to transform the electorate and supports the use of National Guard and mass deportations.

4. Statistical Comparisons: Trump vs. Eisenhower Deportations

[14:28–16:18]

• Mike Howell (Heritage Oversight Project) argues that Trump's deportation numbers are falling far short of Eisenhower's 1954 mass expulsion:
  • "The Eisenhower administration one year alone removed about 30% of the illegal population. ... Trump’s first year ... way less than 5%, if we’re even being generous." — Mike Howell (14:28)
  • Claims self-deportation figures are inflated and urges dramatic increases, with “two-commas” (millions) in annual deportation numbers.
  • Suggests that worksite enforcement must become a top priority—targeting not only "criminals" but all undocumented individuals.

5. Business Interests and Political Obstacles

[21:28–24:28]

• Bannon and Howell both allege business interests—particularly agriculture, hospitality, construction, and the Chamber of Commerce—actively block enforcement to keep labor costs low:
  • "Big business here wants cheaper wages ... They've imported the world and they're fine to do that to drive down wages." — Stephen K. Bannon (21:28)
  • Howell calls for an end to all welfare or public services for undocumented immigrants as a deterrent.

6. The Blame Game: Republicans and Democrats

[36:43–42:30]

• Steve Drazkowski and Steve Cortez argue the immigration problem is bipartisan, blaming both establishment Republicans (notably Tom Emmer) and Democrats.
  • "Mass migration from the third world into the United States was a bipartisan failure." — Steve Drazkowski (36:43)
  • "You are one of the arsonists who cause this fire ... Tom Emmer ... the internet is forever. We know what you did and we have the receipts." — Steve Cortez (42:30)
• Both accuse Emmer and others of hypocrisy, having previously championed resettlement and only changing course after scandal struck.

7. Mass Deportation as a Solution

[26:55–28:04, 45:48–48:54, 54:04–61:18]

• Mike Howell lays out a mass deportation plan, advocating for a "whole of government exercise" and a “reset of expectations”:
  • "Your priority now is quantity, not quality. ... We need two commas in the deportation numbers regularly, in the millions." — Mike Howell (26:55)
• Rosemary Jenks argues that worksite enforcement is vital and calls for criminal prosecution of employers hiring undocumented workers.
  • "We need employers going to jail for hiring illegal aliens. They’ve been getting away with it for 30 years. It needs to end." — Rosemary Jenks (54:16)
• Consensus on the panel is that a "10-year moratorium" on all immigration is necessary, both legal and illegal.
  • "A ten year moratorium on all immigration until we get to the bottom of all the [scams] ..." — Stephen K. Bannon (41:53, 45:48)
• Jenks points to both parties and Congress as ultimately responsible and criticizes the E-Verify system’s lack of mandatory use.

8. Scandal Fallout and Political Promises

[30:54–32:52]

• Mike Lindell, running for governor, decries the scandal as "the biggest cover up of the biggest fraud in United States history" and demands prosecution of all involved, including politicians.
  • "It's disgusting. They gotta be put in prison, all the ones that did this and it's gotta be accountable right up to the governor ... that he let it happen under his watch ..." — Mike Lindell (30:54)
• Repeated accusations are made about ballot harvesting operations in the Somali community—described as "not a bug, [but] a feature" of the local system.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going amid the evil on these people."
  — Stephen K. Bannon [09:59]
• "I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved."
  — Stephen K. Bannon [10:25–10:40]
• "It is different [from] Eisenhower. ... There are illegals spread through multiple industries and geographically across the entire country. ... The chief funders of the Republican party are in part these industries."
  — Mike Howell [24:28]
• "It's a big problem even if you take the fraud out of it. ... You gotta stop these programs that they're taking advantage of. You've got to put the ones that are here illegally—get rid of them immediately, deport them."
  — Mike Lindell [38:51]
• "It is time for us to prioritize Americans. And if it takes a scandal of this magnitude... to shake Americans and to wake them up to this reality that this country belongs to us ... that is actually the moral choice."
  — Steve Drazkowski [46:13]
• "Every single thing that President Trump does... can be undone when he leaves office. Unless Congress does something, anything. Congress needs to step up."
  — Rosemary Jenks [59:12]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Somali Community Statements & Scapegoating Response: 03:16–07:50
• Bannon's Opening Monologue/Framing: 10:41–14:27
• Comparing Eisenhower & Trump Deportations (Howell): 14:28–16:18 & 24:28
• Panel Critique of Both Parties, Tom Emmer Focus: 36:43–42:30
• Mike Lindell Calls for Prosecution, Ballot Harvesting Allegations: 30:54–32:52
• Mass Deportation Solution Outlined (Howell, Jenks): 26:55–28:04, 45:48–48:54, 54:04–61:18
• Calls for Employer Prosecution & E-Verify Mandate: 54:16–61:18

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Tone & Language

• The tone is direct, combative, and often polemical. Speakers use vivid language ("war against you," "boil to lance," "primal scream of a dying regime," "purge walk politicians"), regularly accuse their political opponents of malfeasance or treason, and demand uncompromising solutions ("all have to go," "two commas in the deportation numbers").
• Sympathy is intermittently expressed for ordinary Americans, but immigrants—particularly Somali refugees—are discussed in overwhelmingly negative terms. The rhetoric consistently frames immigration as an existential economic and cultural threat.
• Moments of intra-GOP critique are unusually blunt, particularly the exposure of Tom Emmer's previous pro-Somali refugee initiatives.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode of "War Room" is a full-throated reaction to a welfare fraud scandal involving Somali immigrants in Minnesota, which Bannon and his panel leverage to launch a sweeping condemnation of U.S. immigration and refugee policy. They excoriate both Democrats and establishment Republicans for allegedly orchestrating demographic change, undermining the American middle class, and stymieing enforcement efforts for political and business gain.

The main remedy advanced is mass deportations—on a scale exceeding Eisenhower's infamous 1954 campaign—and a full moratorium on all new immigration, legal or otherwise, for a decade or more. Worksite enforcement, criminal prosecution of employers, and an end to all "benefits" for undocumented immigrants are demanded as immediate steps. Hostility, not just to illegal but legal immigration, and open scorn for business interests and Chamber of Commerce Republicans define this episode. The ethos is populist-nationalist, anti-corporate, and resolutely anti-immigration.

Additional Resources

• Follow @cortezsteve and @itsyourgov (Mike Howell)
• For further analysis, listeners are directed to CortezInvestigates.com and the Oversight Project reports.

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Transcript

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[Steve Drazkowski]

Fry dokemagalada Minneapolis damaan shaab ka Somalia Kay yamid Mogadishu Getaway Hargeza Bosaso bedabo Kismayo wahan raba in an idim sego Minneapolis wa magaladina wahad kamid tijin laf dabarka magaladan ka digesa boshado isku duban sidasta u madewen Donald Trump u siou rugo sharki Minneapolis wa magalo garnesa wanaga iyo kemaha ad ledehin ugo danben t wahan idin leahe aid wanaksen aid mubarak Damantin wahana idin reginaya inad orti fian la kadatan dadkina ad jai Shaheen My name is Jacob Fry, Mayor of Minneapolis, and I want to speak directly to the Somali community. Whether you come from Mogadishu, Getaway, Hargeza, Bosaso, Medoa or Kismayo, Minneapolis is your city. You are a vital part of the fabric that makes our city strong, diverse and united. No matter what policies may be introduced by President Donald Trump, Minneapolis stands with you and values who you are and what you bring to our city. I wish you all Eid Mubarak and I hope you have a wonderful time.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

With your loved ones.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Donald Trump's justification for the travel ban hinges on one Egyptian national who allowed his hatred for Netanyahu's actions to spill over into violence against innocent Jewish people. In Colorado, that logic is dangerous. Holding entire nations accountable for the actions of a few individuals is the very same fallacy. Here in Minneapolis. People of every background have broken the law, and when they do, we hold them accountable as individuals. That's how justice works.

[Steve Cortez]

The question is, you know, why is this a priority? In a different kind of way, the politicization of the DOJ and the FBI is undeniable. So whether they are reliable narrators is the big question. And this is what happens when you weaponize and politicize federal agencies that are not meant to be, you know, politicized. And I think the American people are right to ask the question, well, can we trust you? And that's a sad thing to say as an American. Let's recall, too, that there's also other scandals in other states. For example, the Mississippi welfare scandal. And this is not unique to politics. Americans know that. But, of course, the other factor here is that because it looks like the Somali population in Minnesota, the Somali immigrant population, may have been involved in some way. Those people are being scapegoated, and that community is being scapegoated in a way that certainly serves the far right. And so that's also something to keep an eye on. And that's inappropriate. Absolutely.

[Peggy Flanagan]

Salaam alaykum. My name is Peggy Flanagan. I am the Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota. And I'm really honored and humbled to be here with all of you today. I am incredibly clear that the Somali is part of the fabric of the state of Minnesota. I think about my friendship with Nimco. We've been friends for almost 25 years. And when I think of being part of Minnesota and growing up here, the Somali community has always been a part of my Minnesota. So I want to just encourage the community to know that we're with you. We've got your back. I am here shopping today and just encourage other folks to show up, support our Somali businesses, support our immigrant neighbors. And I know that things are scary right now, and just know that there are more people who are looking out for you. There are more people who are here to support you than you know. I will continue to stand with the Somali community, to be with you, and to do all I can to return the friendship and community that the Somali community has shown me. Thank you so much.

[Steve Drazkowski]

So this is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you. This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat. And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When you hear the vice President of the United States talk about now white people won't have to apologize for being white. That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing. So we're here today to say, enough of this. We're here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The Somali community here in Minneapolis has been welcoming and has shown love towards me, and I appreciate it. Over the last three Years we have been working together to try and address some of the real serious problems that.

[Mike Howell]

We have in our community. We have to be honest at times.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

With the problems that we're having in our community. And we need our community to help us fix those problems together because it's real and it's serious.

[Mike Howell]

At the same time, if people have.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Taken anything that I have said out of context in a way that's caused.

[Mike Howell]

Harm, I apologize and I'm sorry for.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That, because that's not my intention at all.

[Steve Cortez]

We stand with the Somali community every day. There are more than 8,000 Somali Americans who call greater Boston home. These are our neighbors, doctors and nurses, teachers, first responders, Boston police officers. You cannot talk about any achievement that the city of Boston has had in safety, jobs and economic development, in education without talking about the Somali community that has lifted our city up. We are proud and we are grateful for our Somali community and for our Somali American neighbors. Boston and the country are clear that hate has no place in our society. We will use every attack to actually strengthen and expand the services available to empower and work alongside our community members who are already doing so much good in the world and setting an example for the rest of the country.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going amid the evil on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

[Steve Drazkowski]

It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War room.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Use your hook. Stephen K. Ban.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's Tuesday the 30th of December, year of our Lord 2025. We've got a lot of wood to chop here in the war room today. So we're gonna get on with it. How we're gonna go about this. First off, there are two great pieces. There's a lot more clips we're gonna play the audience. We understood the audience can only has a capacity to take so much in a morning, particularly in what is a holiday week. And I know your head's blowing up as it should be. We could have put the defenses of this fraud. It could have gone on forever. But you have to understand this is a feature of the system. It's not a bug. This is the deep corruption in how they bring the invaders in, how they pay for the invaders on your money. And if you're struggling, I just want you to understand the politicians are laughing at you. These illegal immigrants are laughing at you. The way they brought them in here. They're laughing at you. They're laughing at you. You're struggling, you're working, you're paying for this. They're making hundreds of thousands, not millions of dollars, and they're laughing at you. And it has to be stopped. Now you've got doj, you know, FBI, everybody surging. Okay, fine. We can figure out why they didn't surge quicker or what they actually were doing. But now you need, you know, all hands on deck on this. And I know that at treasury and the IRS and Treasury, money laundering and other operations are all this. And many in many states, you're going to see, as I said yesterday, we've been saying for weeks, this is in every blue state, this is the reason they're going to the Supreme Court on the mass deportations. This is why they are fighting President Trump so hard on him being commander in chief and federalizing the National Guard to go in and support ice. This is why they're fighting the ICE raids. And so this has to be solved. And there's only one way to solve it. You got to shut down the money immediately. You got to perp walk the politicians, the administrators, and the actual recipients themselves that did this. And then they have to be mass deportation to get these people out of here. This just has to be. And it's going to be a fight. You just see right there, whether it's the mayor of Boston, Michelle Wu, or whether it's Waltz in Minnesota or the Lieutenant Governor Flanagan, who I think was a Catholic or was a Catholic in hijab. This is a fight. And they're dug in because without these illegal amnesty, refugee, illegal aliens, call them what you will, they can't win elections. They cannot win elections because they don't have the votes. They have to import these votes. So this is going to be the fight right now to make sure that we can lance the boil. So I'm going to start today kind of an overview. I want to bring in Mike Howe. Mike, particularly, there's a Bloomberg article, and I want to start at the broad, because you're saying, hey, we got a problem here. And the big problem is this whole thing of mass deportations and how actually we're going to get these folks out of the country and do it expeditiously, humanely, but it has to happen. And they're saying there's some rifts inside, not just the Trump administration, but also the MAGA movement. I don't happen to believe, I think it's more about actually how we execute on this. But I don't want to steal your thunder. You've been one of the warriors on this. So take us through what Bloomberg says about this moment in time and what we're talking about, about cleaning up this nation and getting the illegal alien invaders, whether they're phony, asylum seekers, refugees, illegal aliens that came through, the Biden administration brought in here, all of it. Sir, the floor is yours.

[Mike Howell]

So thank you, Steve. About a month ago, I released a paper which is a deep statistical comparison of the 1954 Eisenhower operation for mass deportations and this past year under President Trump in his second term. Now, recall, President Trump on the campaign trail said he's going to beat Eisenhower, which is the record deportation numbers, and said that multiple times over. That is the standard that was set. And unfortunately, and there's a lot of reasons why, some political, some that can be fixed, some that are just harder to deal with, but the reality is the administration is significantly off pace to meet Eisenhower levels. The way I broke down the imperfect data is The Eisenhower administration one year alone removed about 30% of the illegal population. And now we're looking at this Trump first year where it's way less than 5%, if we're even being generous. The actual deportation numbers are probably going to be at year end, a little over 300,000. You're going to be greeted with a bunch of other numbers used to make up higher figures that are based on estimates and what I call funding numbers. And this is all complicated because the administration has stopped releasing the actual numbers. Even Democrat administrations on a monthly basis release the ICE number. So suffice to say, we were told mass deportations would happen and it's not. We're getting mass communications and kind of, you know, Mimi Edgelord stuff from the communication staffers. But on the ground, we're closer than a little better than, than Obama and we're dealt a far worse hand because of the invasion of the Biden administration. So a lot needs to change. The administration needs to go on offense instead of being on defense. They're too afraid of Democrats saying you can only deport criminals. They don't want to do worksite enforcement because special interest is poking out of the political divide. And you're right, it's not a divide in the MAGA base. It's a divide in the elected leadership and special interests that are asserting kind of the limiting principle on the administration's deportation efforts.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, let's go back. Do you include. Because one of the things they point to and Rosemary Jenks, she'll be on later. She backs up. There's around 2 million that have just self deported. Seeing that the enforcement efforts were coming, just figured life is going to be too hard in the shadows in the gray zones because these gray zones are going to have a spotlight put on them. Do you include the 300,000 is the reported number of actually extractions. Right. And a lot of that is just focused on bad hombres. But have you did you calculate in here to get to the. Because you're also dealing with a different denominator. I mean Eisenhower didn't have to deal with an administration before him that had basically set up a system for 10 to 15 to 20 million illegal aliens come in here on top of everything they do on all these scams on the VISA side. Hang on, I'm gonna hold you. We're gonna get into this this morning. Also other breaking news. We're gonna go Taiwan. We got geopolitics and capital markets in the in the second second hour of this morning. If you're following capital markets, Gold's going to finish I think this year. Best year it's had since 1979. Okay. Silver on a tear and then a drop and then a tear is as Philip Patrick said, it's best probably talk to Birch Gold and find out what's going on there. Take your phone out and text Bannon. B A N N O N 989-898 get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals. No obligation, totally free, all of it. Most importantly, you get contact with Philip Patrick and his team. He is overseas, is in London but his team's working 247 as they should be. So make sure you make contact today. Historic times as the BRICS nations of the world's beaten up on the good old US dollar. Find out what's going on. Short commercial break we're going to get to all of this this morning on the mass deportations to come.

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This is where mindset comes in.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Mike Howell]

Yeah. So a lot to unpack there. Of course it is different seven years from Eisenhower. The judicial system's out of control. There are illegals are spread through multiple industries and geographically across the entire country. Whereas in 54 is primarily the Southwest and in Ag. But putting that aside for a second and going through some of the other things, you flagged the 2 million number. With all due respect to my colleagues that pumped that number is an estimate based on survey data. It is not the best available data source and I frankly think it's wildly too high. And the best data source would be the illegals that actually took the thousand dollars to self deport. We offered monetary rewards for them. I bet you that number took the 1,000, which is up to 3,000 over the holidays. It's probably less than 100,000 and there's a reason why that number is not out. And so statisticians who support and want to, you know, give the administration, some have come up with what I think is frankly a funny number and a little bit of wishcast. It's not the best available number as it relates to special interest that is I would say one head of a two headed snake we're dealing with right now. Yes, we need to understand that the chief funders of the Republican party are in part these industries and they have particularly, you know, deep connections to this administration. Whether it's the agriculture sector or hospitality or restaurants. People in the MAGA base need to start viewing them the same light. We talk about the Chamber of Commerce, it's the same deal. And we also need to make it as economically impossible for illegal aliens to stay in the United States apart from just, you know, working. That means the schools they treat as daycare, the health services, all the other welfare programs that end up trickling money down to them. It should be prohibitive Economically, for them to be here and remain here. Second is the political problem. A lot of Republicans don't want to talk about anything but deporting, you know, criminal illegal aliens. They want a rule where basically you can't get deported until you kill someone. And that's a really dumb rule, but politically it's free chicken for them because they can just talk about criminals. And the administration, unfortunately has given into that wing of the party. If you look at dhs, his website, you're only going to see things about worst of the worst. They aren't going to be talking about worksite raids and stuff. And so the base needs to fix the politics of this and reset kind of the agenda to be the one that President Trump promised and laid out. I think that's how we get over the hurdle.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What's your recommendation if you were in the Oval to smart in Mar a Lago and went in for a cup of coffee with the President, what are the two or three things that Mike, how would say, Mr. Mr. President here? It's pretty straightforward. It's going to take political muscle. But here's what I would recommend you do to get to the heart of this mass deportation problem.

[Mike Howell]

Yeah. So I would first start off by saying that this, next to the accountability agenda, is what the Trump 2's legacy will be judged on and frankly the entirety of it. And so we got to do it and it's not being done now. And I think people have caught up to that fact. And so to do it, a firm reset of expectations across the government that this is going to be a whole of government exercise to push not only the deportation levers, but every other advantage illegals get from the feds and the states to make it as impossible for them to stay here. So not just ice, we're bringing in everybody. Number two is you got to go to where the illegals are. And that is, you know, worksite enforcement and then other force multipliers like the parents of, you know, anchor babies, you can, you can, you can remove in larger numbers when you focus on quantity instead of just the quality. That's the safe political and the worst of the worst. And so be thinking that your priority now is quantity and not quality. And once you do that and the numbers start to get commas in them. We need two commas in the deportation numbers regularly in the millions. Right now we got one comma. But once you start doing that, people get the message and illegals will self deport. They're not self deporting now. Nowhere close to 2 million. But once you actually deport, they'll start self deporting. So that would be my message.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mike, how. Where does. I want to make sure people read. You know, you got New Year's Eve, it's going to be a little slow New Year's Day. I want people to get access to your information. Where do they go?

[Mike Howell]

Yeah, follow me on XOW tweets and the oversight projects at itsyourgov. And the paper's up there and we're frequently pushing it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mike Howell, thank you so much. Great way to start the show. Fantastic.

[Mike Howell]

Thank you, sir.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mike House is given to you with the bark on. We're all trying to help here, but we got to get serious about this. Let me play. I got Mike Lindell. I want to play. If I can quickly. Can I play the Lieutenant Governor and Governor Waltz again from the Cold Open? I want to play some people just. Yes, yes, yes. I know. I want to rub your nose in it. But let's go ahead and repeat this so we can get Lindell's observations.

[Peggy Flanagan]

My name is Peggy Flanagan. I am the Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota. And I'm really honored and humbled to be here with all of you today. I am incredibly clear that the Somali community is part of the fabric, fabric of the state of Minnesota. I think about my friendship with Nimco. We've been friends for almost 25 years. And when I think of being part of Minnesota and growing up here, the Somali community has always been a part of my Minnesota. So I want to just encourage the community to know that we're with you. We've got your back. I am here shopping today and just encourage other folks to show up, support our Somali businesses, support our immigrant neighbors. And I know that things are scary right now and just know that there are more people who are looking out for you. There are more people who are here to support you than you know. I will continue to stand with the Somali community to be with with you, and to do all I can to return the friendship and community that the Somali community has shown me. Thank you so much.

[Steve Drazkowski]

So this is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you. This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat. And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When you hear the Vice President of the United States talk about now white people won't have to apologize for being white. That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing. So we're here today to say enough of this. We're here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Enough of this. Mike Lindell, you're running for governor. Let's say you got the lieutenant governor right there cosplaying a Muslim, and then you've got the governor who's directly responsible and accountable for this mess.

[Mike Lindell]

Sir, it's disgusting. I mean, this is the biggest cover up of the biggest fraud in United States history. I mean, everyone, they gotta be put in prison, all the ones that did this and it's gotta be accountable right up to the governor that he let it happen under his watch, everybody. And right now, Steve, this came out yesterday, Lisa Damon, the head of the speaker of the House, a Republican, by the way, a person I'm running against for governor, they come out yesterday and go, yeah, we knew about this last February and boy, the Democrats waltz said nothing about it. Well, what did you guys do about it? I mean, this should they should have been sounding the alarm for us, for us in Minnesota that, hey, this is going on. They should have went to the and got this push, went right to a police report and say, this is, this is so blatant. There's no children in these daycares. I mean, and Steve is despicable. And then they act like, oh, we all want this Somalians that, we want them there in Minnesota, that they're part of our part of support these communities. Their waltz is trying to cover up and deflect, deflect, deflect. And Minnesota media, when this came out, Steve, back in January, KSTP came out with a big report on this fraud finally. And the Republicans, they did like Lisa Demons did, they did nothing as far as I'm concerned. That's why I'm running for governor. You know, when you hear something like this, you take care of it that day. You don't let up the gas. You get, you know, it's action we got. You better fix this now. You get rid of these programs. I don't know why they were set up in the first place. All these daycares, you need that they are. And by the way, Steve, one of the daycares that actually had children had so many violations, they put them under probation or whatever and they still got $8 million.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, hang on for one second.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Sure.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Commercial break the reason they do it, Mike James and Keith broke it. They have a ballot harvesting operators. Somalians run a ballot harvesting operation. This is not a bug. This is a feature of the city system I'm going to get you to read Daily Signals got Jarrett Stepman. He's got an article about this. This is the way they fund it. This is the way the system works. They're laughing at you. They're laughing in your face. Your hard work, your effort, your tax dollars. All of it. Short commercial break Modern day Holy War.

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[Steve Cortez]

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[Steve Drazkowski]

Let the Republicans off the hook here because mass migration from the third World into the United States was a bipartisan failure. For example, Tom Emmer, the number three House member on the Republican side from the state of Minnesota, was ardently in favor of this mass invasion of Somalis into the United States. And it has been disastrous. Even outside of the outrageous fraud. Yes, this criminality is the most offensive aspect of it. However, for most Americans, it's not the crime that matters so much. It's the mass migration that competes with Americans in the labor market, that competes with the them in the housing market that makes their life unaffordable, that makes the standard of living for working class Americans decline. We know that nationwide right now, the majority of immigrant headed households in America are on some form of welfare, a means tested benefit from the American taxpayers. That means we are not doing immigration correctly. And I say this as an immigrant son. We have as American citizens every right and I would argue every obligation to say that immigration exists to serve the existing citizens of the United States. And if it does not, we need to stop it. So of course stop and prosecute criminality. But there's a bigger issue here of who are we prioritizing? And the Dems overwhelmingly and too many Republicans simply want to prioritize foreigners over American citizens. And this horrific example of abuse of generosity from American citizens I hope will compel a much bigger conversation about what we're doing with immigration.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, Amer was he made himself head of the Somalia Caucus. You got the person you run against, the woman you run against the speaker. She's another disaster. They've all been disasters, right? Some are just kind of looking the other way and going along with It. And of course, the radical Democrats are trying to change, radically change the United States by bringing in the third world hero, which they can then control with tax money stolen from taxpayers. Mike Lindell, what are you going to do about it?

[Mike Lindell]

Yeah, this Lisa Daymond, she's just the speaker of the House. These guys have done nothing. See, it was perfect right there, what they just said. This is a big problem. Even if you take the fraud out of it. You got to stop these programs that they're taking advantage of. You've got to put the ones that are here illegally, get rid of them immediately, deport them and. And you've got to relook at every. You've got to relook at these programs if they're even needed because you know, they're bringing in, they're not helping the people that are here. And all these people, like one is Keith Ellison.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What is one is Keith. When is Keith. When is Keith Ellison, the radical Muslim Attorney general of Minnesota Governor to stop attacking your Christian centers for trying to get people off drugs and start going after the Muslim community here that's ripping off, committing felonies every day. When is his prejudice against Christians, his anti Christian bias going to be diverted and to go after all the Muslims that are ripping people off and walls and Flanagan, I think she's Catholic. Go up Flanagan cosplaying a Muslim. Right. Just. It's humiliating for her.

[Mike Lindell]

Well, someone needs to investigate them, Steve. They need. You need to investigate them. It's not going to change. Keith Ellison has turned it up on me now because we also have not just my Christian network, but my foundation where you have a replacement for these welfare platforms that are put into place that people are using the fraud and then people coming in and taking advantage of these. And he's not going to let up, you know, and we can only pray that they get exposed. And if they were part of this, they need to be put in prison too. What they're doing to our country, starting with Keith Ellison, it's despicable. It's illegal. They don't love our. He doesn't love our country. He's got their completely different agenda. And it's an evil agenda, Steve, is pure evil. You know, one of the things coming back to me as one of the first things as governor, I mean, you got the Minnesota flag right here, but there's also a statue sitting in the capitalist satanic statue that's got to go immediately. They gave Waltz an award because he's, you know, back to Satanists or whatever. It's disgusting. These people are evil. They're running our state. They're letting all this happen. It needs to change. And you can't have the establishment of these people. Like the speaker of the House yesterday that comes out, they knew in February this Lisa Daymond, and I'm sorry, I want to be the next governor of Minnesota. I will take care of these problems immediately. And by the way, everybody, we need your help. Mike Lindell gov.com We need it now. We're going into all these debates in January with people like Lisa Dama. I'm going to be debating them, these governor debates. There's like 12 candidates. I need to be the one and I need your help. Mike Lindell gov.com Steve okay, Mike, thank you so much.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Keep fighting. It's a fight that we need for the country. Minnesota, the new beating heart of this Cortez, Emmer, the entire Republican establishment. You don't get 20 million illegal alien invaders into the country. Plus all the scams we're calling for. We've been doing it for a while, but now we gotta bang the drum even louder. A ten year moratorium on all immigration until we get to the bottom of all the because every visa program, every immigration, the legal immigration there are all scams. All of them are scams. H1B visas being the worst. Steve Cortez, your thoughts, you know, regarding.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Tom Emmer, with friends like these, we don't need opponents in the political arena. So here is the message to Tom Emmer from patriotic Americans. You are one of the arsonists who cause this fire and you do not then get the privilege of complaining about the damage caused by the very conflagration which you helped to start. All right? So show a bit of humility and honesty. Right now, Tom Emmer is coming out with tough guy statements stating how he's going to start expelling Somalis using rough language in his post. Guess what, Tom Emmer, the Internet is forever. We know what you did and we have the receipts. And speaking of receipts, if we can show, please, chart number one, which I sent over, this is from the Minnesota to Star Tribune, not exactly a right wing publication. And there you have it in the headline from 2015, Steve, you mentioned Keith Ellison, the radical Muslim in Minnesota. Keith Ellison and Tom Emmer, guess what, they're chums together. They created the Somalia Caucus together all the way back in 2015. And by the way, Tom Emmer also, you can go to my social media. I show the receipts. Tom Emmer also verifies this in his own words. Words on his own social media posts from that time. He also castigated one of his constituents in Minnesota who complained about the influx of Somali migrants who just pointed out the reality that they are not assimilating into American society. And what did Tom Emmer do? He played the race card very predictably. So realize that we're not just up against the Dems. Yes, the Dems are unanimous in their radical open borders, pro Third World extremists. But there are a lot of pro business Republicans, many of them in positions of great power, like Tom Emmer, number three Republican on the House side, who are totally aligned with the radicals when it comes to these migration issues. And I've been dismayed, unfortunately, in the last 24 hours or so, Steve, to see a lot of very good folks on the right on social media who have been retweeting these tough statements in the last 24 hours from Tom Emmer. Now, I hope that they're just. Just ignorant of the reality of who he is and not complicit with his dishonesty and his hypocrisy. But it's really important for those of us in the patriotic populist movement to realize who our real allies are here. This mass migration from the third World, which has been so destructive to the United States and destructive way beyond this fraud. Yes, the fraud is horrendous and offensive in every way and criminal. And a lot of people need to go to prison for a long time. A lot of people need to get deported. But the bigger offense against the American people is the importation of a replacement population in a very deliberate way that competes with Americans every single day in the. In the labor market, in the housing market, in the educational markets of the United States and makes life harder for working class Americans while it enriches a credentialed elite who benefit from this kind of borderless globalism. So Tom Emmer and his ilk need to be called out by the right. And if there's a silver blessing to this horrendous event in Minnesota, it's that hopefully it's going to wake a lot of Americans up, that not only do we need to stop illegal migration, we need to significantly restrict and in my view, stop legal migration to the United States, at least temporarily.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, temporarily for me is 10 years. That's what it's going to take.

[Steve Drazkowski]

I'm fine with that.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

10 year more term in all. Steve, one question. You know, Hal brings it up. The Bloomberg people notice it right away because it's a business issue that you have Guys like Emmer, they're hiding behind the bad hombres. We got to get the criminal element out here, the bad hombres. And that whole wing is trying to. Trying to make sure we don't get to mass deportations. Your thoughts on that?

[Steve Drazkowski]

Look, of course, prioritizing the bad hombres makes sense. Get the dangerous people out first. But this deportation operation needs to be far bigger than that, because, again, it's not just the brazen criminality. Once they're here in the United States, let's remember they're all criminals for trespassing into our home. And anyone who breaks into your home is de facto a criminal. But let's, let's of course, prioritize the most dangerous ones. But again, when it comes to everyday quality of life, when it comes to prosperity for Americans, when it comes to getting your children into the flagship university of their state, let's remember how much life has been degraded, how much quality of life have suffered from illegal migration to this country, and I would argue from far too much legal migration to this country, from far too many worker visas, from far too many foreign students, especially from China, at American schools. It is time for us to prioritize Americans. And if it takes a scandal of this magnitude from a third world hellhole, Somalia, where 1/3 of their GDP is based on. Reminiscent, by the way, think about that for a moment. If it takes a scandal of this magnitude to shake Americans and to wake them up to this reality that this country belongs to us and that there's nothing merciful, there's nothing compassionate about prioritizing people from across the world. Before you prioritize the people who live down the street from you, the people in your community, your American brothers and sisters, that is actually the moral choice. It's the logical choice. And it's what the American people have demanded and deserve. They demanded at the ballot box. Now we must fulfill that. Donald Trump has done amazing work at closing the border. Now we need to accelerate the deportations. They cannot be limited only to people who committed additional crimes once they broke into our country. And again, hopefully, this scandal in Minnesota, and I think the scandal will widen. Right? We see a lot of evidence. Similar things are happening in Columbus, Ohio, similar things in Maine, probably all over the country. Hopefully, this scandal is going to wake people up that this country belongs to us. And there's nothing selfish about saying that. As a matter of fact, it is actually the altruistic thing to say, I am my brother's keeper. My brother is an American who lives in my neighborhood who is struggling right now. And we need to take care of him, we need to take care of his family before we worry about Somalians who mass migrate to our country, don't assimilate, and then have the gall to rob us blind and to take advantage of our generosity. And they are then protected by powerful people like Tom Emmer who wants to now pretend that he's a tough guy and he wants to pretend that he's a pro sovereignty America first patriotic populace. No, he is not. And we're exposing him with his own receipts.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, coming in with the tough guy hockey routine Right. When it's already been exposed by other people when he was part of the problem. Let me repeat this Republican establishment is a big part of the problem here with these radical supporting these radical Marxists and jihadists. Steve, where do people go to get your investigative reports, all your content?

[Steve Drazkowski]

Yes, Please go to CortezInvestigates.com Cortez with an S at the end can also follow me on X Twitter. I'm ortezsteve. Thank you so much, Steve. Appreciate it. Happy New Year.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Happy New Year. Do I have Glenn's story? Is Glenn's story up yet? Okay, we're tracking on Glenn's story. Can I put up? So today Kash Patel just announced, the FBI just announced, I think they rolled up in Texas at least one individual who was planning a terrorist attack. They say he's ISIS affiliated. We'll get more information on that. We are going to be in Texas on the 9th of January for an event. Yeah, if we can get the graphic up there in the link to the page. Gert Wilders and myself are going to be there, plus others. That's who is announced so far. We're going to have an event on the 9th of January at Grapevine, Texas, and we're going to talk about the Islamization of the state of Texas and what you can do as a Texan to roll it back. It's going to be a powerhouse night. Wilders is the most well known, I think, of the leading politicians in Europe that foresaw this and has been fighting it for 20 years. Short commercial break we're gonna turn in the war room in just a moment. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp.

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This is where mindset comes in.

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[Steve Cortez]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

WAR Room.

[Steve Drazkowski]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Rosemary Jinx joins us. So Rosemary, before I get to there's an article out about what the Trump administration is doing and you've got some ideas on that and how the courts are trying to fight him. But just give me your overall assessment of what you've heard so far this morning, ma'.

[Mike Howell]

Am.

[Steve Cortez]

Well, I would say first of all that Mikel is absolutely correct that we have to focus on worksite enforcement. If every illegal alien in this country doesn't recognize that every step outside his door he takes takes puts him at risk of deportation, including going to work, he is not going to self deport. The only way to get the self deportation numbers up is to do worksite enforcement. We need employers going to jail for hiring illegal aliens. They've been getting away with it for 30 years. It needs to end. We need some examples made and we need serious worksite enforcement if those deportation numbers are going to go up, up. We have, you know, Tom Homan promising 10,000 additional ICE agents and that's fantastic. We need all those agents but they're going to have to focus on, on worksite enforcement. I also completely agree obviously that we need a 10 year moratorium and that should be a no brainer at this point. The fact is that both parties in politics are complicit in our immigration system. They designed it, it's working exactly as they intended for their cheap buddies and it needs to stop. Now's the time. We cannot have our young Americans doing everything they're supposed to do and not be able to afford to start a family, not be able to afford to to own a house. And yet their taxes are paying for foreigners in our country to steal billions of dollars through fraud. It's disgusting. It's unsustainable. It's got to stop.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You know, was Ecclesiastes tells us there's a time and a season for everything. And of course for many of you, particularly folks who go back with us to the Breitbart days and to some of the films we made about this back, I don't know, 2000, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, some of the huge battles we had in those Years. In fact, Dave Bratt, our co host here and the chairman of your organization, really won. Coming out of nowhere, the biggest upset, I think in at least primer is the cause. The first time a sitting majority leader in the history of this nation had ever lost in a primary. That was Eric Karner down in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia, against Dave Brat. And Brad had nothing, had a couple of nickels to rub together. And it was on this issue, right? Where would you recommend. And so you've shifted now. You've shifted because you used to be at NumbersUSA. NumbersUSA, CIS, you guys did all this analysis for years, was the, the backbone of really this movement to make sure put American citizens first. But then you shifted over and we talked about this a lot. You shifted over and formed this new organization because you said, hey, look, the math is the math. And now you've got President Trump, you've got an entire. We've changed at least the voting base of the Republican Party to focus on this and understand what a huge issue it is. And this. And the audience is 1000%1. For the good of the country, for the good of their fellow citizens and for their children and grandchildren and their communities. Everybody's united in this. But there's a huge headwind. And you have to address the fact that you've guys got guys like Tom Emmer. They're going to work. Forget all these illegal aliens in here and all these migrants in here. And then the moment the spotlight gets put on them for the, not just the theft, but the way the system's organized, organized to perpetuate this and to empower them and to give them money. Right? And that's. And then they vote for the radical left. You know, all of a sudden Emmer is like, he's tougher than Mike Howe. Well, this is the hangup we have right now to shift to mass deportations, which is fighting President Trump nonstop. They want to focus just on the criminal element. And the business community is fighting nonstop behind the scenes to make sure we don't segue, to really get to the heart of it. The heart of it is that, hey, you got 10 or 15 million, 20 million illegal aliens came in on Biden's watch. They all have to go. They all have to go. If you allow any of them to stay, then you're just sending a signal in the future that people can come and just, and just do it. There's going to be no enforcement and no penalty for actually trying to do it. But it's the business community that's Fighting you. How do you segue to get to worksite enforcement? And what industry sectors would you recommend the administration start in, ma'?

[Mike Lindell]

Am?

[Steve Cortez]

So, first of all, I just want to say that, you know, every single thing that President Trump does, and he has done some amazing things on this issue, really fantastic, Made a massive difference in this country. Every single thing he has done can be undone when he leaves office.

[Mike Howell]

This.

[Steve Cortez]

Unless Congress does something, anything, Congress needs to step up. One of the most important things that President Trump has done in the Republican Party is to shift it away from the Chamber of Commerce and toward Americans. That needs to continue. We've got more members, more Republican members of Congress who actually believe in America and Americans. But there aren't enough yet. Yet. And we need to change that. We need to put the blame for our immigration system squarely where it belongs, and that is on Congress. Both parties of Congress, they designed this. They have to fix this so that it can be fixed permanently. And the first step in that, of course, is a moratorium in order to get to worksite enforcement. All we have to do is for President Trump to give the order to ICE to start focusing on worksite enforcement. The obvious industries are, unfortunately for President Trump, hotels, restaurants, the hospitality industry, the agriculture industry, construction. You know, we. We have seen a lot of complaints from employers in, for example, Texas, construction companies saying, well, we can't get construction done because we don't have any workers. Well, guess what? If you've been hiring illegal aliens for the last 20 years, that's your own fault. We have a system called E Verify that is free to employers. They can use that system to ensure that their workforce is legal. They should be using it. If they're not, it's their own fault. And too bad for you, because we must get every one of these illegal aliens out of our country. That is the minimum, minimum that we have to do to ensure that Americans have good jobs, that wages can increase. I mean, it's just a simple matter of supply and demand. If you tighten the labor force, wages go up. That's the point. We want wages to go up so Americans can afford to live. And by the way, it'd be a nice benefit if they didn't have to pay billions of dollars in fraud by foreign nationals.

[Mike Lindell]

No.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

No taxes that go to. These guys are laughing in your face as they get wealthy and you grind away. Hang on for a second, because some specifics. The Trump administration is tightening the screws. Of course the courts are going to fight them. Who's my jinx? Also, the wall Street Journal. My favorite paper. The editorial section, which is really my favorite. They're so pro war room, pro maga. They're up in arms. They're saying there was no stealing of any election down in Georgia. That's all nonsense. All a bunch of conspiracy theory from the war room posse. We'll try to get to that in the second hour. Stick around.

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