THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4492)

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode 4492 – December 12, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon" zeroes in on political fractures within the Republican Party, the fight over redistricting and judicial appointments, the ramifications of President Trump’s AI executive order, ongoing battles over state and federal authority, and the saga of Tina Peters. The conversation features Steve Bannon, Mike Davis, political commentators, and former Congressman Mark Walker, delving into grassroots conservative activism, skepticism of establishment maneuvering, and the tension between populist MAGA leaders and both Democratic and Republican elites.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Republican Division and Indiana Redistricting

[00:34–01:34]

• Indiana Republicans rejected Trump-backed efforts to gerrymander the congressional map.
• 21 Republicans crossed party lines in the state senate, signaling waning fear of Trump’s retaliation.
  • Steve Bannon: “You have people in Indiana, Republicans who maybe six months ago would have never dared cross Donald Trump... People elected us to represent Indiana, not to represent Donald Trump. Nobody was saying that months ago.” [00:50]

Insight:
The episode frames this as evidence that Trump’s grip on the party—and the “unitary executive” idea favored by think tanks—may be slipping, at least in specific state contingents.

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2. Corruption in Minnesota

[01:34–02:24] – Stephen K. Bannon

• Minnesota’s political culture likened to a “criminal gang.”
• The upcoming exposure of state-level corruption could serve as a “stadium version” of American political rot, contrasting the impenetrable opacity of Washington D.C.

Notable Quote:

"Minnesota... is about to face a meteor that's going to destroy it all. Those people are not going to be. Some of them won't even want to be in America in a year or two... The damn thing is a criminal gang."
— Stephen K. Bannon [01:34–02:24]

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3. Trump’s AI Executive Order & States’ Rights

[03:01–05:00] – Steve Bannon & Mike Davis

• Trump’s executive order (EO) on artificial intelligence:
  • Limits states’ ability to regulate AI.
  • Creates a national framework and AI litigation task force.
  • Threatens funding cuts to states mandating altered AI outputs.
  • Proposes federal law overriding most state rules.
• Supporters hail this as a counter to China; critics see it as an “assault on states’ rights” set for legal challenges.

Political Commentary:

• AI policy is seen as favoring large tech companies over workers—potentially alienating working-class Trump voters.
  • Political Analyst: “If you look who's probably the biggest beneficiary of his policies, it's the companies... The people who could suffer could be the working class, could be people who voted for Trump, who might lose their job or feel threatened by it.” [04:00]

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4. The Four Cs and Grassroots AI Policy Pushback

[08:57–13:43] – Steve Bannon & Mike Davis

• Discussion of the “Four Cs”: children, conservatives, communities, creators.
  • Mike Davis credits War Room listeners and the Article 3 Project with blocking AI amnesty in Congress.
  • AI policy must now directly address the Four Cs in any legislation, or federal preemption will be denied.

Notable Quote:

“This EO sets up where there's going to be a legislative task force that comes up with legislation that provides federal preemption but addresses the four Cs... This is a big win for the Article 3 project and the War Room Posse that were very much at the table and driving this process.”
— Mike Davis [08:57–09:50]

Insight:
Opposition from grassroots conservative networks forced tech interests and lawmakers to compromise away from total regulatory amnesty for AI.

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5. Tina Peters Pardon & Alleged Judicial Abuse

[19:22–23:38] – Steve Bannon & Mike Davis

• Trump’s attempted pardon of Tina Peters—a Colorado county clerk convicted of state crimes—is dismissed as legally irrelevant and a political move.
• Davis characterizes the prosecution and imprisonment of Peters as “malicious,” claiming she is being abused and left to die in prison for questioning election outcomes.
• Urgent call for listeners to pressure Governor Jared Polis to commute Peters’ sentence.

Notable Quote:

“She was a 69 year old woman who they put in prison for nine years... This is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results. And it's sick.”
— Mike Davis [19:50–22:11]

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6. The Senate Blue Slip & Filibuster Fights

[24:34–27:42] – Mike Davis & Steve Bannon

• “Blue slip” tradition allows home-state senators to veto federal judicial and U.S. attorney nominations.
• Davis says the “old bus tradition” is blocking Trump’s nominees, and calls for its abolition.
• Argues even more vital is eliminating the legislative filibuster:
  • Mike Davis: “Don't be stupid here. The next time Democrats control the White House, House and Senate, they are going to nuke the legislative filibuster... Let's beat them to it. So, so they can't control all three brands.” [27:42]

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7. Delayed Religious Freedom Nomination (Mark Walker Interview)

[33:03–42:24] – Steve Bannon & Mark Walker

• Mark Walker, nominated as Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom, has been waiting over eight months for a Senate hearing.
• Highlights the bureaucratic bottleneck—unofficial “gentlemen’s agreements” can stall nominations, sometimes from home-state Republican senators.
• President Trump personally intervened recently, expressing frustration.
• Walker underscores the global stakes—religious minorities relying on U.S. advocacy—and calls for grassroots pressure on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Notable Quote:

“The fact that somebody would think that they should have the wherewithal to push back on President Trump's agenda when he's got the weight of the world on him... we ought to be doing everything we can, much like the Democrats... Big fights to take on.”
— Mark Walker [38:41]

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8. Abbott, Texas, and the “Color Revolution” Challenge

[46:59–51:20] – Steve Bannon & Colonel Pete Chambers

• Pete Chambers announces a run for Texas governor, criticizing incumbent Greg Abbott and the establishment for failing to secure the border.
• Accuses Abbott of performative (not substantive) opposition to illegal immigration and Islamic law, claiming a “color revolution” threatens Texas.
• Advocates for outsider, grassroots, “wartime” leadership.

Notable Quote:

“This is the time of cartoon character legislators and, and, and this Hegelian dialectic and optics is over. We need a wartime governor. This is a, this is a soft war, but it's, it's a hybrid and threat and it is a color revolution.”
— Colonel Pete Chambers [51:20]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “You have people in Indiana, Republicans who maybe six months ago would have never dared cross Donald Trump... People elected us to represent Indiana, not to represent Donald Trump.”
  — Steve Bannon [00:50]

• “Minnesota... is about to face a meteor that's going to destroy it all. Those people are not going to be. Some of them won't even want to be in America in a year or two... The damn thing is a criminal gang.”
  — Stephen K. Bannon [01:34–02:24]

• “This EO sets up where there's going to be a legislative task force that comes up with legislation that provides federal preemption but addresses the four Cs... This is a big win for the Article 3 project and the War Room Posse.”
  — Mike Davis [08:57–09:50]

• “She was a 69 year old woman... This is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results. And it's sick.”
  — Mike Davis [19:50–22:11]

• “It's a BS 100 year old bus tradition... home state senators get an absolute veto over the President's pick for U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal... These home state senators do not want to give up the ability to hand select the U.S. attorney who could prosecute them...”
  — Mike Davis [26:40]

• “Don't be stupid here. The next time Democrats control the White House, House and Senate, they are going to nuke the legislative filibuster... Let's beat them to it.”
  — Mike Davis [27:42]

• “The fact that somebody would think that they should have the wherewithal to push back on President Trump's agenda when he's got the weight of the world on him... we ought to be doing everything we can.”
  — Mark Walker [38:41]

• “We need a wartime governor. This is a, this is a soft war, but it's, it's a hybrid and threat and it is a color revolution.”
  — Colonel Pete Chambers [51:20]

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Key Segments and Timestamps

• Indiana Republicans Reject Trump Redistricting Plan: [00:34–01:34]
• Minnesota Corruption Discussion: [01:34–02:24]
• Trump’s AI Executive Order, States’ Rights Debate: [03:01–05:00]
• AI “Four Cs” and War Room Activism: [08:57–13:43]
• Tina Peters and State vs. Federal Pardons: [19:22–23:38]
• The Blue Slip and Filibuster Fights: [24:34–27:42]
• Mark Walker on Delayed Religious Freedom Post: [33:03–42:24]
• Pete Chambers vs. Abbott: Texas Primary & Border: [46:59–51:20]

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Tone & Style

The tone is combative, urgent, and anti-establishment, with Bannon and guests expressing deep skepticism toward both Republican elites and Democratic power structures. The language is direct and populist, focusing on “fighting for the people” and decrying bureaucratic, globalist, or tech-elite overreach. There is also an explicit call to action for grassroots activism, especially in judicial nominations and high-profile conservative legal fights.

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Takeaways for First-Time Listeners

• The War Room frames itself as the rallying point for grassroots conservative action against both establishment Republicans and Democrats.
• Central ongoing battles include state and federal power struggles over redistricting, AI, and nominations.
• The “Four Cs” (children, conservatives, communities, creators) now drive MAGA-aligned tech policy skepticism.
• Trump’s base is expected to pressure Senate and state officials on nominations and "justice" issues like the Tina Peters case.
• Both AI and judicial nominations are painted as the next frontline electoral issues.
• There is a consistent theme of vindication for War Room activism in stalling or redirecting policy and legislative outcomes.

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This summary is crafted to ensure clarity and structure, capturing the episode’s breadth, style, and strategic focus for anyone who missed the broadcast.

Transcript

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[Steve Bannon]

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Night. Indiana Republicans have rejected the Trump backed effort to rig the state's congressional map. This is big news folks. 21 Republicans cross party lines to defeat the measure in the Republican controlled state Senate.

[Mike Davis]

That's more than half of the entire.

[Steve Bannon]

Republican caucus idea cooked up, you know, in, you know, years ago that Donald Trump was going to be all commanding and all power, that there was going to be unitary executives, executive power, you know they cooked up at Heritage Foundation. It's, it's, it's already falling apart and it's falling apart because that's not the way America works. It's never been the way America works. It's never the way America will work. I mean you have people in Indiana, Republicans who maybe six months ago would have never dared cross Donald Trump are like wait, wait a second, wait, wait. People elected us to represent Indiana, not to represent Donald Trump. Nobody was saying that months ago.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let me tell your audience as fact Minnesota as it exists now politically in terms of the people and celebrities and celebrity congress people and so on that are on our TV all the time is about to face a meteor that's going to destroy it all. Those people are not going to be. Some of them won't want to even be in America in a year or two. Really? I promise you. It's so bad.

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What do you mean?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, the corruption is so bad. The levels of financial malfeit feasance are so high. Not only was there not vetting, but there was opposite vetting. Let's find. I'm not letting you into this government before we you prove you're more corrupt than me. You know, you have to be at least as corrupt as me if you want to be part of this thing. Okay? Otherwise we'll sell each other.

[Steve Bannon]

Sounds Democratic.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The damn thing is a criminal gang which is just the right size is big enough to, is big enough to get people's attention, but it's small enough for people to still, like, see it in a snow globe. How it really works, see, Washington's too far fricking big a corrupt enterprise for us to even see one tiny part of it, you know, but this Minnesota thing will allow us to sort of watch in almost a stadium version, how our politics works and how our people lie and how the money gets sucked up and how it gets redistributed. And it's not going to stop President Trump.

[Steve Bannon]

Trump has signed an executive order limiting states power to regulate artificial intelligence, creating.

[Mike Davis]

A national framework to keep the US Competitive.

[Steve Bannon]

The order launches an AI litigation task force, threatens funding cuts for states that mandate altered air outputs, and calls for a federal law overriding most state rules. Supporters say it's key to counter China, while critics call in an assault on states rights, with legal battles expected in.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

On AI if you look at who he's with at these events, if you look at who he socializes with, if you look at who he talks to, and if you look who's probably the biggest beneficiary of his policies, it's the companies. And there's. There's a certain logic that we do have this technological war that ultimately I think will dictate war itself in terms of who gets to the best AI the fastest. But there's another side to this, and this is the one that the administration has largely ignored, which, which is it's going to have an effect on jobs. If you start to automate things, somebody, at least in the short term, suffers from that. And what you see here is the president, David Sachs, saying, listen, we need unfettered regulation. We need these companies to be able to move as fast as possible. We don't want states to get in the way, despite the fact that we have a federal system, despite the fact that states do have the right to regulate different companies on their terms in their states. The danger there, and this is the one that really puts them at odds with, with maga, with your Steve Bannon's of the world, is that the people who could suffer could be the working class, could be a lot of people who voted for Trump, who might lose their job or who feel threatened by it. And I think that's the bet if they're wrong. And right now, if you looked at AI as a political candidate, it's as unpopular as a lot of the president's policies on the economy or the inflation. People are very worried about it. And so he is betting not just, not just his presidency on it. I think that Republican brand, because Republicans have had to fall in line.

[Steve Bannon]

First off, will this work? Will President Trump's pardon actually free Tina Peters? No. This is a lawless act. It's an act of intimidation. It has no basis in American law. Our system of government gives states authority to run their own criminal justice systems. As you noted, there was a trial, there was a conviction by a jury that there's an appeal to the state courts. All that is happening under the rule of law. This president doesn't respect the rule of law, but he doesn't have authority to undermine how we operate our judicial system here in Colorado. It's ultimately going to be opportunity for a lot of people, but right now, people are saying, I'm afraid that it's going to raise my energy electricity bill because of data centers in some states. I'm already seeing that. I'm worried about my job, I'm worried about surveillance. And they don't yet see or feel that opportunity. And that's where you get Steve Bannon. A lot of the MAGA hardcore saying the Rollog Archs are leading the president astray and that he's going to be in a bad place for his base and for a lot of America.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Is basically three pieces now. It's the have, the have nots and the have lots of. And the have lots are. Anybody who's heavily invested in AI or building one of these companies or an adjacent company, if you're in that batch Joe was talking about it earlier, that's what's propping up the economy and the S&P 500, you're getting rich as hell right now. And if you're in the stock market like Trump is right, the stock market is booming. There's parts of the economy that are extraordinarily strong. Other countries would they envy what we have. But where you see the pain, where you see the angst, is with people who are not heavily invested in the stock market, who aren't benefiting from AI and in fact could suffer from AI. And that is going to be, I think, the topic of next year. I would pay a lot of attention to this. I think it will dominate who ultimately wins the election.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going.

[Colonel Pete Chambers]

Medieval on these people.

[Steve Bannon]

I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people. People have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Mike Davis]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie?

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be safe.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Friday 12th December Year Overlord 2025 we're going to get into the Tina Peters pardon and how that plays into the effort behind the scenes to get Tina Peters free and out of prison. Also the let's, let's take it head on the massive loss yesterday in Indianapolis for not only did we not go nine zero, we only got seven two. So we'll address that. What has to happen there to turn that around. But I want to start with artificial intelligence. Mike Davis by phone. Mike, the eo, what the executive order did was set up that you have to have, you're going to have a federal framework right now in a process which David Sacks is essentially going to oversee or run. This is far from defeat because they basically concede your four Cs have to be part of this. I actually think it's got to be even broader than that. But just walk me through your thoughts right now. The EO the morning after as we get to do start the hard work, sir.

[Mike Davis]

So I do think it was a productive first step with this executive order that the Tech Bros have understood that they can't just get federal preemption and no federal rules of the road, which means federal amnesty. So that this EO sets up where there's going to be a legislative task force that comes with, comes up with legislation that provides federal preemption but addresses the four Cs that we care about, children, conservatives, communities and creators. And so that's a big win for the Article 3 project and the war room Posse that were very much at the table and driving this process. So that's good. There are some issues with the eo.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Just take a second and explain to people the fight, the initial fight was they wanted total amnesty absolutely nothing. And really, no, no really even regulatory apparatus at all. Just accelerationists. Acceleration is accelerationists. They, they didn't get preemption because this says there's going to be a federal regulatory apparatus. And they specifically, I think it needs to be broader than the four Cs, but they very specifically add the four Cs in there to show that that specifically has to be taken care of. Right. So moving in Is this all part of a negotiating process? We've gone from AI amnesty and leading to, if it's preemption, it's got to have a federal regulatory apparatus around it because the states quite frankly got to say so here. And they're never going to agree to it, correct?

[Mike Davis]

Yeah, that's correct. And that's a major, major win because remember, four months ago in the big beautiful bill, at 2:00 in the morning, this was heading to victory. It was going to be included, this AI amnesty was going to be included in the big beautiful bill. And it ended up going down 99 to 1, including Ted Cruz, the lead sponsor, voting against his own legislation. After the War Room Posse went into action and lit up the Senate and let people know that we're not supporting AI embassy. And so here we are, four months later, there was talk about putting it, putting this AI amnesty into the National Defense Authorization Act. The War Room Posse teams up with the Article 3 project. And we lit up the Senate again and they backed down. And then they are very much going to address the four Cs because they know they have to because we've created that political frame so they have to address these four Cs or they know they're not going to get federal preemption. So this is a big win for the Article 3 project. It's a big win for the War Room Posse, frankly, it's a big win for President Trump because this would not have gone well for President Trump if they would have won. These AI pros would have won in bad amnesty. And then, for example, you have these AI platforms with peddle bears that are talking sexually explicitly to kids, pedo bears. The states can't do anything about it. And there's, you know, there's federal preemption and no federal rules of the road that would have ended badly for President Trump. So this, these four Cs are going to be good for everyone, including especially President Trump.

[Steve Bannon]

I, I think that he, you know, I think he realized after the two face plants, because what Sachs tried to slide into the big beautiful bill and to the NDAA was absolutely open field running. There would be no controls whatsoever over the accelerationists and AI. And I think President Trump and you can see his handprints on this in crafting the thing that you got to have some sort of federal regulatory apparatus. Now let's talk about DeSantis and Newsom. You know, California's put some laws up. I think they got SB53, which is kind of modern context. That's that really where they want to know where the companies are going, etc. DeSantis has really stuck I think more to the 4C's what is going to happen now at the state level? What, what is your. Because DeSantis, these guys are not going to back off. Right. A lot of these governors are saying hey, we have a responsibility here to protect our citizens. And you know, we're not that we don't believe David Sachs in this crowd. Mark Andreessen put the citizens of our state first, particularly children and creators.

[Mike Davis]

Sir, that's just it. I mean look, I get the point that the tech bros are making that you have these terrible laws like in Colorado where I live where they're essentially, they want WOKE AI, they want DEI AI, they want censorship against conservatives. They actually want their AI machines, their algorithms to, to pump out DEI and WOKE nonsense. And so I guess the tech bro's concerns about that, that if you have to, you know, yes, in order to comply with Colorado statute, you have to change your algorithms. And so there it creates a bad outcome. And so I'm not totally opposed to preemption. I get why they, why they would want a, you know, one rule of a road to them. But they have to have a rule of the road. They, I mean they again, they have to address, at a minimum they have to address the four Cs in order to make sure. Look, as you know Steve, we tried this with the tech pros. We gave them section 230amnesty, you know, 20 years ago or almost 20 years ago. And look what it led to. It, it led to Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple that, that politicians shuttered small businesses and canceled conservatives and others with whom they disagreed. They became these big tech platforms became trillion dollar monopolist that did the government's bidding and did the Democrats. But we're not going to let that happen again. And so we're going to proceed more cautiously, more smartly with AI, with AI than we did under section 230. And I think that this framework.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on for one second. We'll take a short break. Mike Davis, the Viceroy that artificial intelligence next.

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[Mike Davis]

So, I mean, I think that they finally concede among the AI crowd that in order for them to get preemption, they have to address the four Cs. And so this is total victory for the Article 3 project in the War Room Posse. We won. We're at the negotiating table. We were working with President Trump's AI team and working. We propose legislation and we're working on that. And to their credit, to David Sacks's credit and the AI team's credit, they're working with those in good faith, right? You know, I don't know. I don't think it was malicious what they were doing before. I don't think they were malicious. Maliciously trying to screw us. I just don't think that they, you know, have been around Washington, D.C. or the legislative process very much. And so this is probably new thing for David Sacks to come to Washington and deal with the swamp. And, you know, again, I do think he's. He's trying to work with this in good faith. I don't think he's a bad person. I actually kind of like him. I disagree with him. I disagree with him on all this tech bro stuff, but he's not a bad guy.

[Steve Bannon]

So in the hundred pages of proposals you gave them, your point is it was too late to incorporate that into what they were trying to do. The NDA. So they stepped back. This process, you're highly confident that because the hundred pages is just a start, but it's pretty substantive. On the four Cs, you believe or you're comfortable telling the audience that some version of this you believe is going to be in there and you're going to have to do it anyway or DeSantis and these guys are going to be taking it to court and slowing it down.

[Mike Davis]

Well, I mean, if they don't address the four Cs, they're not going to get federal preemption because we'll crush them again like we did the last two times. And so, and I, and I told them that, I said, if you want preemption, you're going to address the four seats, otherwise you're not going to get preemption. So it's, they get it. And I think that unless they have our blessings with the Article 3 project in the war room, I just, I don't think, I don't see any path where any legislation would pass.

[Steve Bannon]

I want to shift to Tina Peters for a second because you've been the viceroy has been one of the folks working on this also with many, many other people. President Trump did go through the pardon process on a federal level. And of course, immediately I think he had the Attorney general, we played it in the cold open saying this is irrelevant, this is state. But it's much more complicated than that, is it not, Mike? And their alternatives people are pursuing right now to make sure that we can free Tina Peters.

[Mike Davis]

It is outrageous what is happening to Tina Peters. She was a county clerk in Colorado again, where I live. And the Democrats, Attorney General Phil Weiser and the Democrats Secretary of State Janet Griswold, two partisan monsters teamed up with the local DA and this, you know, this judge, this local judge, and they put Tina Peters in prison for nine years. And they can come up with any excuse they want for doing this. But it came down to this. Dana Peters questioned election results and these Democrat operatives and their weak Republican rhinos who went along with this. That's what it comes down to. This is a malicious prosecution. It is heartless, it is humane, inhumane. It's just awful. She was a 69 year old woman who they put in prison for nine years. Now they have her in solitary confinement, that she's getting abused by other prisoners. She's being abused in this prison. I mean, they have her in solitary confinement and they're saying they're doing that to protect her. According to Tina Peters, allies who have reached out to me, it's just. It's sickening what they're doing to her. This is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results. And it's sick. And so I look, the president cannot pardon Tina Peters for state crimes. That has to come from the governor of Colorado. And so even if this Democrat, Governor Jared Pollack, does not want to pardon her, he can at least commute Tina Peters sentence. She suffered enough. She's dying in prison. They're killing her in prison. So that's one thing the War Room Posse can do is go to article3project.org, article number three project.org and one of the action items is to contact Governor Jared Paulus and tell him to show some decency and commute Tina Peters sentence. She suffered enough in prison. We don't need to kill this woman just because they have political disagreement.

[Steve Bannon]

Not to get too hard, not to get too far ahead of things. But it is, you know, they took her up on state because they realized in federal. She would, you know, if there was federal charges, ultimately, if we got back in power, you know, she could be pardoned. But Griswold's hands, I mean, Griswold's got dirty hands here at a federal level.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Right?

[Steve Bannon]

Isn't a lot of this about the preservation of records and records about the 2020 stolen election, the process for all of that? And Griswold herself is dirty here. And I'm sure that's being looked at by a number of people, sir.

[Mike Davis]

Griswold is a malicious artisan slob, and she should really be ashamed of herself. I don't think she's capable of shame because she's such a terrible human being. But what Jenna Griswold did here to Tina Peters is monstrous. Jenna Griswold is a partisan slob, and it's disgusting what she's done here. And yes, we should. I'm very happy that the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, and Harmeet Dillon, the head of the Civil Rights Division, opened up an investigation on the Colorado prison system. And that's almost certainly going to include the mistreatment of Tina Peters in these. In these Colorado prisons.

[Steve Bannon]

Mike, one last topic, and thank you for taking time away to join us by phone. But you saw what happened in Indianapolis last night. But this is inextricably linked with the progress we're making on getting legislation and nominees. We got Mark Walker, who's going to be on the show right after you bounce. That's been, I think, eight or nine months and hasn't been confirmed yet. This issue about blue slips, and I know Senator Grassley's working through this right now, but this issue about blue slips and the issue about the filibuster, because. And I think President Trump has been adamant about this, unless some things change, he's not going to be able to implement his plan. And you got both the blue slips for the judges and really for the U.S. attorneys. And you've got this, you got the situation of the filibuster. Can you take the blue slips first and explain what it is to the audience and why President wants changes and why he's so upset about it?

[Mike Davis]

Look, and I get that. I've been fighting with people all night on X and all morning on this issue. I hate blue slips. I got rid of blue slips for circuit judges when I was the chief counsel for nominations eight years ago, I worked for Senator Grassley. We got rid of blue slips for circuit judges. And so that's how President Trump was able to confirm a record number of circuit judges. I tried to get rid of blue slips for U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal, but there was way too much opposition in the Senate to getting rid of those, including from too many Republicans. And that's the issue. What angers me is when people are blaming this on Chuck Grassley, my old boss. This is not a Chuck Grassley problem, it is a Senate Republican problem. And so what needs to happen is if we want to get rid of these blue slips for US Attorney, US District Court US Marshal John Thune needs to work with the Trump White House and round up 50 signatures, at least 50 signatures from Senate Republicans, including every Senate Judiciary Republicans, saying that they will vote to confirm U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal nominees who lack blue slips. Right. That is that. That is going to be a very tall order, because here's the problem. Too many Senate Republicans do not want to give up their blue slip. So it's but to blame Grassley for this is what really pisses me off, because it's not Grassley's false. It's he doesn't have the votes if they don't have. If you have Senator John Kennedy, for example, or Senator Thom Tillis saying they're going to vote against these nominees who like blue slips, then Grassley can't get them out of the committee.

[Steve Bannon]

But by the way, just for the audience, blue slips is the way that senators in their states for, for US Attorneys, US Marshals and certain judges can actually override the President's choice. Correct.

[Mike Davis]

I hate blue slips. It's a BS 100 year old bus tradition in the Senate where home state senators get an absolute veto over the President's pick for U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal. And I, and I again, I say this somewhat jokingly, but it's not really a joke. These home state senators do not want to give up the ability to hand select the U.S. attorney who could prosecute them, the U.S. district Court Judge who would oversee the trial and the US Marshal who would escort them to prison. Again, I hate blue slips. We need to get rid of them. But if we want to be smart and actually when, we should actually direct our energy to fixing the problem instead of directing our energy to dividing the Republican Party and going after President Trump's most effective Senate ally, Chuck Grassley.

[Steve Bannon]

We got about 30 seconds. You're a traditionalist, but you agree that we got to get rid of the filibuster and we have to do it now.

[Mike Davis]

There's no question we need to get rid of the filibuster for legislation. We got rid of the filibuster for nominations. Now you can get nominees confirmed with, you know, 51 votes or 50 votes. In the BP, we needed the spirit. We need to do the same thing with legislation. It currently requires 50 votes to pass most legislation. I would say the Senate Republicans, don't be stupid here. The next time Democrats control the White House, House and Senate, they are going to nuke the legislative filibuster. They're going to add states like Puerto Rico, like D.C. they're going to pass the Supreme Court. It's going to be good by America if we, if we let that happen. Let's beat them to it. So, so they can't control all three brands.

[Steve Bannon]

The Viceroy. Thank you very much. I'll put your social media and Article 3 up. Thank you. Mike Davis.

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Colonel Pete Chambers]

Was not.

[Steve Bannon]

It was not. It was not. We said that at end the beginning but the Republican establishment is trying to thwart President Trump at every level. So the fight he has is not just with these radical Democrats. Every day you see that in the hatred coming from the Democrats and the media and the in the established order in this country is something I've never seen before. I mean I don't know how the guy takes a day in and day out, day in and day out. It's getting Dangerous.

[Colonel Pete Chambers]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

He's already had. He's already gotten through a couple assassination attempts. But the bigger fights with the Republican establishment, and you can see this in the Senate, where the establishment still controls the United States Senate. On the Republican side, you don't have any really the effort on filibuster is not getting traction. Let me be blunt. There's no movement on the blue slips. The whole discussion about doing, you know, allocating $2,000 per American citizen coming out of the tariff revenue, not really getting any tract you're seeing on. There's no recess appointments. In fact, now I don't see really a lot of effort to get his appointments through it all. Just had Bridge Colby, I think the other day, a couple of deputies even at the committee level. I want to bring in Mark Walker. Now, Mark was a former congressman. Sir, you've been nominated to be the ambassador. Explain what your role is. Ambassador for faith religious projects. It's a, it's kind of a global mandate. Now more than ever, we need this. Correct me if I'm wrong. You were nominated eight months ago, sir.

[Mark Walker]

Yes, in, in early April now, more than eight months ago. And the position is ambassador at large for international religious freedom. This was a position written up by Republican legislation. They dragged Bill Clinton kicking and screaming in 1998. He did set into law. I would be the seventh ambassador for such, which is. There's an intelligence component to this as well. But our job is to advocate for those people, whether that's Syria, whether it's in China, the Middle Eastern countries, Africa. We've seen this recently, a lot of the persecution, targeting, blasphemy laws, even even rape, pillaging and killing of these folks, and specifically most of it driven by Islamist groups, whether it's Boko Haram, ISWA Al Shabaab and others. But yes, this is important position. It lists this position as the principal advisor to both the Secretary of State and to President Trump on all things that are international religious matters. And as we know, a lot of these wars are driven by these false religions. And so, so yes, we're, we've been anxious about it. We've traveled back and forth to D.C. nearly every week, meeting with senators and, and a lot of support that we do have across the board from cabinet members, from senators, but we've not been able to get the hearing quite yet. And to say the least, it's been frustrating.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, let's go through your background for a second. You're very respected and it's not like you're a bomb thrower. This I Think was what you are, someone that's very well known. You've got a very defined track record. You've been a man of action and delivered a lot. You're respected by people on both sides. The president thinks the world of you. This is why I think confuses people. You've got all the credentials, you check all the boxes. You're a safe pair of hands. You've got a lot of support. So why are you on the war Room on 12 December on a Friday, heading up to the Christmas holidays, and you haven't had a hearing yet, so we can get you confirmed and get you to work on all over the world. This issue is blowing up everywhere. So I think that's what confuses people. What's been the problem?

[Mark Walker]

Yeah, I, I think it comes down sometimes. You know, we don't have what they call the blue slip for specifically nominees. That's more in the legal side with judges and appointments. But they do have sometimes these gentlemen agreements where if you have one senator that's maybe pushing back or kind of giving a wink and nod to the chairman of a, in this case, the chair, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, they do slow play that out. We've got great support. John Thune has been great, the entire leadership. We have unanimous support across the leadership in the Senate, those on the committee as well. It's just that we're trying to get through and in fact, this is breaking. I've not revealed this yet to anyone. Had a great call with President Trump last night, who gave me his word. He's working on it. I don't expect him to be able to track hundreds of appointments or nominations, but he was gracious to take a call and I kind of gave an update and, and we're looking forward to him having him help push. But the point I think you're making, Steve, is that the president shouldn't have to be taking time, trying to singularly go out and try to find each nomination and push through and then go get another one. When he names these people, he's vetted them, and trust me, you have to go through all kinds of divestations. You have to go through all these security clearances that's been done since the summer. And for President Trump to have to weigh back into this, it's unfair to him because it's pulling away from something else. This is, I believe, a very important position. We have tons of nonprofit groups that are out there pushing, writing letters to the president and everything else. So we're anxious to get started. Unfortunately, it Looks like we may have to go through a renomination process because the last hearing, I believe took place yesterday. But we're still fighting for this. And yes, we're not historically upholstered, I guess considered a bomb thrower. But I'm proud to have the highest pro Trump policy scorecard when I served in Congress there, and even serving and doing so there in leadership. But don't let the ministry background fool you. If we need to scrap or fight or stand up for what we believe in, we're not afraid to do so.

[Steve Bannon]

Congressman, you've also been a team player. I mean, you've taken a couple. Not just have you supported President Trump's agenda, there's been some, you know, people have, hey, can you do this? You've got a track record of putting the MAGA movement, putting the country, putting your state of North Carolina before yourself. I mean, you've got a demonstrable track record. So this is what I don't understand. Why are we the president who's got the weight of the world on the shoulders, he knows you very well. It's a slot he considers important. The reason we know he considers it important, you were in his first batch, you know, back eight months ago when everything was going on, we're flooding the zone, it's Days of Thunder. He selected you to do this. He wanted somebody to get on with it. You know, he solved, you know, eight wars. We're going to have Erik Prince on here in a moment to talk about how difficult it is of President Trump. They're trying to denigrate what he's done, how some of these countries are at each other's throats. Right. And your billet would be to make sure that the interest in faith based folks, their interests are come to the table and you've taken incoming for the team. How can we possibly be in a position, I mean, there's gotta be somebody to blame for this. How could we possibly be in the position to have the president I states now with everything he's got going on, refocus on a guy he nominated that he thought important enough that he do it at the beginning of the administration. Now we're in December, at the end of the year, he's not done. And now we're going to have to go through potentially another process, sir.

[Mark Walker]

Yeah, I think it comes down to, without kind of beating around the bush, a hometown home state senator that needs a little encouragement from President Trump that I shared last night. And look, sometimes personality conflicts or what have you, and I get that if Your feelings were hurt in a campaign three and a half, four years ago. But here's the thing. The fact that somebody would think that they should have the wherewithal to push back on President Trump's agenda when he's got the weight of the world on him, when he's taking flack every single day from the left, they're trying to ruin him. You even mentioned, as far as assassination attempts and everything else, we ought to be doing everything we can. Much like the Democrats, when Joe Biden puts somebody forward, they line up immediately to support their president because they've got bigger fish to fry, bigger fights to take on. So we hope, even though we've got, we feel like 50, 51 senator support, in fact, we may even have a Democrat or two that ends up supporting us. We're working on that as well. That's, that's yet to be seen. But, but the bigger thing is, is I don't want to be so much focused about me when, when each and every week after President Trump named me this or nominated me, this last week alone, I met with people from, from Ethiopia, from Burma, from, from Iraq, from, from Syria. These folks are begging out. In fact, I was in London recently when a sweet lady named Baroness Emma Nicholson came up and she put her hand on my chest. She said, congressman, she said, america is the last hope for religious expression. And she said, the reason why is because America is the only country where it's written in your law, please stand up and advocate for the people that no longer or do not have that ability to be able to stand up for themselves. So we're excited about taking on this role, to be that beacon of hope, to be that light, to be an advocate, to be the President Trump's principal advisor on this matter. But we've got to get through this hearing to be able to, to get up and moving and, and hopefully we are, hopefully we're getting closer every day.

[Steve Bannon]

Is anything, what, what can this audience do? Because obviously this is top of mind. The religious aspect is top of mind for the activists that watch War Room and are part of the war Room posse. What, any guidance for us, anything we can help. Is this actually going to have to go now through a renomination process?

[Mark Walker]

There are some technical procedures that, that a senator can reach out to the cloakroom. I won't get into the weeds, but, but probably so because the Democrats will use this to their advantage by, by, by, by being blocked. Now, Democrats can reject any kind of extension, forcing President Trump to once again have to go through Renomination process. So we're now probably looking at January. But to answer your question, we'd love for your audience to reach out to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and encourage them to have a hearing on, on the ambassador for international religious Freedom.

[Steve Bannon]

We will take care of that and we will do that. Sir, what's your, what are your coordinates? Social media. How do people catch up with what you're working on and everything you're going to be doing as the ambassador? Because that will happen.

[Mark Walker]

Thank you, Steve. Appreciate the opportunity. Appreciate this is important to you in the audience. That's Rep. MARK Walker. Rep. MARK walker, they can look us up on all different social media handles. We're keeping people up to date on this and it's an honor to be president. Trump has asked me to do this. We're ready to fight. We're ready to get out there and happy to do so and grateful that you would take the time and let us share our story a little bit.

[Steve Bannon]

No, it's obviously very important. It's very important to this audience. I know it's very important to the president and it also gets in this situation of why we've had this, had this morass. Congressman, thank you so much for coming on and we're going to keep up to date on this and have you back on. Thank you, sir.

[Mark Walker]

Thanks a lot, Steve. Take care.

[Steve Bannon]

Here's the thing. It's not just the president has to get involved here right again after he's already nominated a guy. These people put their lives on hold. They put their entire lives on hold. And the in the vetting process is extraordinary. The financial vetting process, any conflicts, all your background. The vetting process is just absolutely a grind and this has been in process for eight months. President Trump wanted this done right away. He wouldn't have put this in the first wave of his nominations if it had not been. And this gets to the point of people working with President Trump in a horrible environment, a horrible environment. President Trump needs as much support as possible, particularly from the Republican establishment. And you're seeing in the Senate where these things are being blocked. You know, the blue slips, filibuster the nominees, the tariff, the tariff deal for the people. Short break, Back in a moment. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more.

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[Steve Bannon]

We're going to do more artificial intelligence in the next hour. Also, Erik Prince is going to join us. Talk about what President Trump is up against when he's doing these, trying to put these peace deals together and where he's trying to guide people to peace like in Ukraine, Middle east and guess what, in Venezuela. So we'll get to all that. Home title lock's got a special 14 day free. You get to check out their $1 million triple lock protection. Every dream you've ever had is in that home. Also, 90% of your net worth. It is essentially your savings account for retirement. Make sure with advances in AI and cyber, rogue lawyers, rogue accountants, rogue relatives that nobody can get their hands on it. Nobody. Hometitleock.com, promo code. Steve, you get a 14 day free trial on the triple lock protection, which basically gives you 24 hour monitoring. You get alerts if anybody's messing with your with your title in the rudimentary system we have throughout this country. And if all else fails, they'll put up a million dollars for legal and all else to make sure that they're in the fight. Shoulder to shoulder with you to get your title back. But don't let that happen. Hometitlelock.com promo code. Steve, talk to Natalie Dominguez. She's the head of education over there. Came on a couple of years ago on our recommendation. She's done an amazing job, remember, with the war room, every time we get a sponsor, you get access to the senior people that run the company and they'll spend as much time as you need to explain their products and services. So go take advantage of it. Today. Colonel P. Chambers joins us. Colonel, we're talking today about the Republican establishment fighting President Trump. His biggest battles right now are not even with the radical Democrats, although he's hammering those guys every day. It's really the Republican establishments is trying to thwart him at every, every turn you've announced, sir, I would say charitably, a long shot bid to be the governor of Texas. Now, number one, what's the problem with Abbott, who's been there for like a half a century, and why do you think it's necessary to announce, you know, step out of your life, all the good you've been doing to say, hey, I want to take this guy on and I think I can do a better job. And that better job needs to start now.

[Colonel Pete Chambers]

Sir, I believe that completely, sir. And you know, you have to excuse me. I'm on the campaign trail, so a little raspy. But understand this. The bottom line up front for me is that this nation is in the throes of a color revolution. And if you, if we haven't seen it, we need to, as a watchman, announce it. That's what I do. If I'm a forcing function in this state, then I'll be a forcing function. But when we put our name in the hat, we went up against that establishment to include folks from my side, the Republican side. And that's okay. We have no problem with that because Texas is the target, as the domino of the flyover states. It is the target. And I know too much. I've witnessed too many sentinel events on Operation Lone Star, on that border, on the COVID mission, watching the conditions being set for disenfranchisement, destabilization, and then currently where we are in a, in a fight amongst our own party and we got to do like Braveheart, we've got to unite the clans. We can do it grassroots, if you will. We the people, we can do it. But it's, it's a long shot. This is straight up, you know, Normandy. We're at point two, Hawk. We're going straight up the hill.

[Steve Bannon]

Colonel, explain. Let's go to take a specific example, because you had Biden and you've had the Republican established for years, but why did Abbott and other senior Republican officials in state government, in the state legislature, why did they not use the powers that they have, which are substantial, to close the border during those horrible years of President Trump in the wilderness when 12 to 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders came across? And a lot of half, at least half of those are more through the great, your beloved state of Texas, sir.

[Colonel Pete Chambers]

Yes, sir, absolutely. On Operation Lone Star, when we kicked it off for me three years ago, getting to the Border. We could have stopped that then. We as a state could have stopped that then. That was under the Biden administration. The border was wide open. 12, 500 a week came across 1254 miles of Texas border. Now for me as the guy that's looking for a needle and a stack of needles down there, not only the task force surgeon, but a liaison to special operations, when I called for specifically a designation of fto, Foreign Terrorist Organization with my team to the governor's staff, it fell on deaf ears. And I get it. We, we sometimes have to follow, we do have to follow the orders of our civilian leaders. However, when we advise these things, we don't do it because we believe or don't believe anything other than the facts and Operation Lone Star, unfortunately. And I, and I'm, I'm going to tell the honest truth here was an optic versus reality which was we had literally 30,000 in my estimate, bad actors come into the state of Texas alone. This is under trend, CCP actors and other born actors, especially from the Middle east where we're. Now we're looking at a Sharia problem in the state of Texas to include two Sharia law courts up in Dallas. And it cannot happen. It cannot be under the state or federal constitution.

[Steve Bannon]

Is, is, is Governor Abbott getting the joke by declaring a Muslim brotherhood and CARE a terrorist organization? Or is this just more, is this another Lone Star? Is this just more optics?

[Colonel Pete Chambers]

Yes, sir. And you have Brian Harrison on frequently. And he gets it and he understands it. There has been a declaration, if you will, of a foreign terrorist organization without teeth. And when you say that you've outlawed Sharia law, which is what the governor has said, when you look at the fine print, because the devil's always in the details. When you look at the fine print, it outlawed certain practices that not the word Sharia is not even in the law. It's not even in the strongly worded message. And so we've got to get past that because somebody asked me last night, what are you going to do different than Abbott? Here's what I said. I said, well, I'm not going to lie to you for 11 years, right? I'm a term limit guy anyway. So I'm going to come in, we're going to fix the problem because this is the time of cartoon character legislators and, and, and this Hegelian dialectic and optics is over. We need a wartime governor. This is a, this is a soft war, but it's, it's a hybrid and threat and it is a color revolution.

[Steve Bannon]

Colonel, can you Hang on for a second. We'll hold you through the break. Colonel Pete Chambers is with us. He's running for the Republican nomination in the great state of Texas against Governor Abbott. The incumbent been around for a long time. Erik Prince is going to join us about the heavy lift President Trump has throughout the globe. We're also going to go back to artificial intelligence. Joe, Joe Allen and others are going to bring us, get back to us and hopefully get Ben Hornworm pretty packed in the second hour. We're going to leave you with the right stuff. Pete Chambers has got it. Mark Walker's got it. Eric Prince has got it. The question is, does the Republican establishment got it? I don't know. They're fighting President Trump every second of every day. What happened yesterday in Indiana is a disgrace. Full stop. Short commercial break Back in the War in about two minutes. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing. You are listening to me, which, let's.

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