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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that. But you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
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Steve Bannon
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Tuesday the 9th of September, Yervalord 2025. One of my favorite people in the world has joined us in studio. The Christina Bobb on a great day in Michigan. Your new book hang with us. You're hooked up. I got Degrasse and Mitchell. Mike Lindell's with us. So Degrasse, just to finish this on. And by the way, Christina, Bob's now over at Judicial watch. Talk about a group of fighters. Barroom brawl crowd over there fitting these guys. Degrasse, just walk me through some numbers. Where are we in Ohio? Where are we in Indiana? Where are we in Kentucky? Because folks, let me be blunt. We need to do these Florida guys. It's got to happen Texas. We need another couple of three. The Democrats are full on. I want people, I want your nose rubbed in this. All this talk up here. Mark Elias every night. Oh, these are anti. California has the fifth or sixth biggest economy in the world. Roughly 40% of the folks out there vote Republican. You've got 43 Democrat seats, nine Republican. They're changing it from 48 to 4, four. New England, I think it's 25 seats to nothing for Republicans and you got 40% of the vote. They don't care. They play smash mouth. We need to play smash mouth. There's no prisoners here. This is a no prisoners. Game, Degrasse. So where do we stand with the Kentucky. Come on, folks. The good folks in Kentucky, in Indiana, I mean, this is the heartland of the country. This is the backbone of the nation. Where do we stand with these in Ohio? The brothers in Ohio, man, the brothers and sisters out there are hardcore MAGA. That's a railhead of MAGA help. Trump's winning by nine or 10 points. They're all ours. Take all the seats in Missouri. I love Missouri. Go back and get the seat in St. Louis. The Democrats would not leave that on the table. No mercy. No prisoners. Maximalists. You have to do it. Because now they're not. They play. They've already. They're more. As Degrasse said when he came on California today is more gerrymandered than Texas after we picked up the extra five. And they're going. They're a maximalist strategy. By the way, if Newsom thought he could choke out. They get the other four, he'd take the other four. They went then twice. So where are we to gross?
Alex Bruesewitz
So that's right. So Indiana. We're hoping for the one there. You know, a little bit of a logjam. So actually some news here. Bruce Schwitz, Raheem, myself, some MAGA Patriots. We're going to be there this weekend, Steve. Otherwise, I'd be up in New York and we're going to be hosting the Hoosier Leadership for America. We'll be having a panel and a massive rally with hundreds of Patriots. We're going to be going through the specifics on the redistricting, and we're going to try to jam some of these folks and get this thing across the finish line. It's going to be a huge media event. And so we're pushing the envelope. I'm going to post details to sign up for the posse. It's free event.
Steve Bannon
When is that? When is that going to be? Isn't there a state law in Indiana that Bruce Awicz and Raheem can't be in the state together at any one time? Who in the hell said who? Marco Elias. Suck on that. You got, you got, you got revolutionaries coming to Indiana. Where is it going to be? What time? Where do people go get tickets for that?
Alex Bruesewitz
I'm going to give you the details. So Senator Jim Banks will be there. He's obviously leading the fight and pushing on the redistricting front and how important this is to pick up that one seat. And it's going to be about 45 minutes north of Indianapolis. I'm Going to get the details at a hotel. It's free. I'm going to have make sure you guys can put it up. Maybe on the. You guys can put it out to folks. It's going to be, I mean, a lot. We already have about 400 RSVPs just off the gate, and it's going to be huge. So amazing. We'll get that going. But the reality is we need Missouri, if we can get that other one. Great, right. We need Florida three. We need Ohio three. Ideally Kentucky, we easily get one.
Steve Bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. What do you mean, Florida three? Florida five being soft on me five. Come on, man. That's right. I think you wait till. You wait till 20, 26 on that election day, you're gonna be damn glad you get those other two in Florida. This is maximilization because the Democrats are going to get Maryland. They're going to come back and get a couple of three. We got a net out, you know, 10 to 15 here. Net. What about Ohio? We're getting three out of there.
Alex Bruesewitz
Yeah, that's right. That's the word.
Steve Bannon
Okay, where do people go? We need to stay up on top of this every day like we did back in 21 and 22. So where do people go? You're officially taking leadership now because Mark Elias, all these guys they're into, and they're. They're getting momentum off of California. Now I'm going to have some people from California have some polling. They're going to come on this afternoon, show, like I said, everything there is subject to time availability. The president is going to be sending a proclamation. And knowing the president, he may say a couple of three words and then he may take a couple of three questions. So time permitting, we're going to do that. If not, we'll do it tomorrow morning. Degrasse, where do people go to find out exactly you're thinking on this? And also to get access to. To Alex Brucewich and Raheem Kassam in Indiana. Wow. We gotta make sure we get plenty of video and photographs of that. So where do people go to get you, sir?
Alex Bruesewitz
I'm gonna get Degrasse 81. I'm gonna throw some stuff on social. I'll work with Grace and make sure you guys can put that out on the signup form for folks. I think just quickly, Steve. I mean, Obama, you know, just with my family and stuff, they're saying, hey, Obama's doing all these fundraisers on Marcy's vineyard, which he doesn't do a lot of. Steven, I don't think this has been reported, but all of the money that Obama's raising is going into the districting operation is run by Eric Holder. They're playing absolute smash mouth. They've got, I'm sure, plans in other states and we've got to be ready. That's why we have to net everything we can now on every avenue, every vector, because it's going to be an absolute knife fight over the next four years. Steve. But thank you for everything that everyone's doing and thank you for having me on.
Steve Bannon
Perfect. Great, great report, Alex. Appreciate you. Before I pivot, I got Christina. Bob, we're getting into this great victory today in Michigan in her book Defiant because she is defiant and been with us from the beginning. Mark Mitchell, you've got some incredible polling on this. I call this generation, this young generation coming up to the most based ever. And you're like whimpering and whining, oh, it's so bad. They're not conservative. No, they're populist nationalists, man. They're coming for it. This a new generation of warriors. These young men and women, boom, they're ready to hit it. Tell me what you're pulling because I know over at the White House they're going through, they're going through your polling like they're going through the, like some archeologists would check the Rosetta Stone. Right. So walk us through what you found.
Mark Mitchell
I mean, this will punch them in the face. It's pretty obvious when they take a look at it. And there's not going to be a lot of happy talk, especially if you're a Republican Party guy. So maybe I'll get the good news out of the way first. It's like there are probably some long term things that the Republicans have in their favor, like the 2030 census, maybe fixing all the errors in the 2020 census, booting illegal aliens out of it. And maybe like you were talking about redistricting. The problem is November 26th. And I don't see a lot of action out of Republicans right now at all. It seems like they think they're just going to coast through and maintain a House majority on Trump's coattails.
Steve Bannon
Yes.
Mark Mitchell
And let me tell you, that is not the case. There's a lot of headlines out there about how conservative the zoomers are. And they are not like you said, they are economic populists. They are not happy with the way the system is. 65% of them think that it's complet, completely unfair to young people. And the numbers are horrifying 17% unemployment rates. Half of them are single. Of the people who are single, only 35% of them are trying to find life partners. Only half of them think they're confident that they'll own a home. And so we get really ridiculous results, including 53% of 18 to 39 year olds would prefer that a Democrat Socialist win in 2028. It wins by almost 20 points. And so Donald Trump, like here's the thing, his numbers have been doing better and better over the with 18 to 39 year olds, he only lost by about 4 points in our polling. But the Republicans, they're down 16 points on the generic ballots with 18 to 29 year olds are absolutely going to get crushed. They think that this like granddaddy's laissez faire conservatism where the government just steps out of the way and the laugher curve and all that stuff is going to work for these people and it's not. These people are hurting and they want change really fast. And if they're not going to get it out of the Trump administration, they're going to go into the arms of Bernie and aoc. That's a fact.
Steve Bannon
Well, go take me back to the sense of urgency because this is what you know, particularly the lower information folks are. You know, the Democrats have a target of hate every day on everything they do. That is President Trump. And that's how they're jacking people up. On our side, you have the war on posse and you have the vanguard. But if you look out there to a lot of folks, they're just, hey, Trump's in charge. You know, we have the House and the Senate, we pass a big beautiful bill, everything's fine. That is not the case at all. And in this gap between the intensity and urgency on the left is something we have to address. Now. What did you find? How bad is it?
Mark Mitchell
Well, here's a really good example. This is an 18 to 39 year old likely voter survey. I have to thank the folks at Stopping Socialism, Justin Haskins, the Heartland Institute for sponsoring this. It's free. People can go to RasmussenReports.com download the cross tabs because there's a lot of stuff in here. But here's one example. This is a sample that we weighted to a Trump -4 recalled vote. This is how it looked in November. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? Major industries like health care, energy and big tech should be nationalized to give more control and equity to the people. If the zoomers were really based that number should be a pretty low number, but it's not. 76% of 18 to 39 year olds, at least some would agree with that. Almost 40% strongly agree. But here's the problem. It's not just the Democrats. 78% of self ID Republican young people want major industries like health care and tech nationalized. That's absolutely insane. And it's a vast majority of Trump 2024 voters. So people did not vote for Trump because they're conservative. Yes, 79% of Trump 2024 voters want to nationalize major industries. We have 57% of Trump 2024 voters wanting excess wealth confiscation. These people are not just going to be happy with, you know, let's cut a few regulations, let's have some entitlement reform.
Steve Bannon
Is the economic, the economic conditions that they have. Young people in this country are screwed. I've said for years they're treated like Russian serfs. They're not. They don't own anything. They're not going to own anything. If that's the way. And I keep telling the donor, if that's the system you want, you're going to get Luigi on one end, you're going to get Mondami on the other. Okay, You've brought this on yourself. I don't know. I back these kids in that. They don't know the details of change, but it has to change. Do we have to nationalize tech or big Health? No, but I don't know why we're given massive. Let's take SpaceX. Why you're giving. It's 100% government contracts. You don't own anything. Nobody owns anything of it. 100% the government contracts. He's going to do an IPO, I think. I don't know, at what, $300 billion or something. He's just done a couple privates. The system, you have to rethink the system. These kids are not socialists, but they're sitting there, you know, kind of uneducated because we've had propaganda in the high schools and the colleges and they're sitting there going, I'm screwed. I've worked hard. My parents have worked hard, my grandparents have worked hard. My great grandparents worked hard. And they're sitting here with nothing. Don't think that's.
Mike Lindell
Exactly.
Mark Mitchell
The system works for the Wall Street. System works.
Steve Bannon
The Wall. Yes, the Wall. The Wall Street Journal did a thorough polling a couple weeks ago that said if you work hard, there's no reward at the end. 70% of the people do not believe if they Work hard or work harder. There's any economic benefit. You have to change that, that, you have to change that reality on the ground. Mark, I want to get you back on later and I'll talk to you afterwards, but I want to spend some time on the show going through the details because it couldn't be more important or more urgent in the interim, where they go on your YouTube, where they go on your social media to get, get all your information.
Mark Mitchell
Yeah, there's an urgency to change the system. That's what the 18 to 39 year olds want. They want it burned down. Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter. Honest pollster on Twitter and we have a YouTube channel too. I'm going to have a video out later today going into these in detail. Rasmussen underscore poll.
Steve Bannon
Okay, well, I'm gonna try to get you. I'll call you after the show. I'll try to get you back on tomorrow. Mark Mitchell, a shocking new poll and it dovetails exactly what the Wall Street Journal found. And you can't delay, can't kick the can down the road. You're not going to pat him on the head. I'll say just, you know, the laugh or curve, you know, Larry Kudlow in that plan doesn't work. By the by, folks, as we talk about the CR that you're gonna have to eat or the omnibus you're gonna have to eat. If we did a reconciliation, first of all, we done last time, did last time, which is at the upper bracket, either have a snapback or a 40% tax. I don't think we'd be in this situation. We're gonna be out there trying to sell the big beautiful bill. Now we have another reconciliation. Why not? Million dollars and above 40%. Put a 4 on it. Nice round number. Oh, no, you can't do that. That's socialism. Okay, then get ready. Get your ass kicked in 26 and then who knows about 28. Are you interested in winning? Are you interested in conversation? I'm not interested in conversation. All that matters is victory. Sees the institution's maximalist with a sense of urgency. Christina Bobb. Next in the war room, America's heart.
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Christina Bobb
Dan did a great job. I'm so grateful. Yeah. And like I said, he did my website as well. Christina. Bob.com and there's a bunch of his photos up there and I'm grateful for every single one of them.
Steve Bannon
Talk to me. What a. Because in the book the reason it's serendipity.
Christina Bobb
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
That you're on the day that what happened. So what happened in fact, can we get the clip ready? Let's tell me when the clips ready for Michigan The Michigan clip. I want to play that. And then. Because it's a big part of your book. Tell me about the book overall. We're ready. Hang on. Let's play the Michigan clip, and I'm gonna get Christina in here.
Michigan Judge
The courts weren't giving them what they wanted. So in this courtroom, we don't really care your race, color, creed, national origins, religious belief, or your political beliefs. But we do care about the law and that we believe that it should be applied to protect every individual equally. And I believe that they were executing their constitutional right to seek redress, and that's based the statements of all of the people's witnesses. And so for those reasons, these cases will not be bound over to the circuit court. Each case will be dismissed.
Steve Bannon
Okay, what did I. What did we just hear there?
Christina Bobb
That's incredible. I hadn't heard that sound clip, but that comes from the court in Michigan where she was hearing, basically, a motion to dismiss the alternate electors case. The mainstream media has dubbed it as the fake electors case. They were not fake electors. They were legitimate Michigan Trump electors that had created an alternate slate of electors in order to preserve their right to be, to cast their vote should Donald Trump win his challenges in the 2020 election. Dana Nestle, the Democrat attorney general, charged them all with forgery, which is ultimately what I'm charged with in Arizona and so many others. In Nevada, Wisconsin, all those cases are still open, by the way.
Steve Bannon
People think Georgia's open, Arizona's open. Nevada, Nevada and Wisconsin. Four is still open.
Christina Bobb
Yeah. Well, and Michigan was until a few.
Steve Bannon
Minutes ago, and hopefully that'll be a temporary. But you guys are also running up legal bills.
Christina Bobb
Right.
Steve Bannon
And the pressure on these. A lot of these electors are older, 100%, and the pressure and the tension.
Christina Bobb
Some of them have lost homes. I've got friends that have lost their homes because they couldn't pay their legal bills and their mortgage and everything that's going on. It is important to note, though, in Michigan, Dana Nestle brought two separate cases. The electors case was the big one. That was the one that had a whole bunch of people. That's the one that got thrown out, which is great. A great ruling by a great judge. Matt Diperno is still facing his charges, which is the Antrim county issue. And he had run against Dana Nestle. I wouldn't say 2022 or 2022. And then she turned around and charged him. He's been under indictment for two years at this point, and they still have not made a finding of probable cause. So he's still got to fight his case. They're still going after.
Steve Bannon
Well, that gets. The book is Defiant. It's. You were the lawyer of President Trump at Mar A Lago. When you talk about fighting back and talk about this in the lawfare, why is the book defiant? What does it tell us? And do you think we're punching back? We got two things, and Lindell's. We got two things. It's one to get the elections right, get the platforms right. But the other is to hold accountable the people and adjudicate publicly the 2020 election and everything that happened afterwards and hold those accountable that use lawfare to.
Christina Bobb
Come after us 100%. And so the way I like to summarize Defiant is when Donald Trump says, they're not after me, they're after you. I'm just in the way. That's exactly what this book describes. Because I had. I mean, I was just a reporter and then a staff attorney for the president in. In between elections, and I had. I was a nine. Legal matters opened against me in three years. I had the FBI, the Jupiter Police, the Palm Beach County Police, everybody show up in my house. I was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
Steve Bannon
Did they go in your house and take your stuff?
Christina Bobb
No, they. I got subpoenaed. And we volunteer, you know, voluntarily cooperated. But I was investigated by the Department of Justice, the FBI, the California State Bar, the State of Arizona, I mean, sued by Dominion. I was involved in all of it. And it just goes. It's my story, but it's also the alternate. I go into the alternate electors a little bit. But it goes to show that those of us who, you know, you get to see behind the scenes of the Mar A Lago stuff. I was there on site. I tell you all the dirty details. I give you the text messages, the emails, the correspondence prior to the raid. Because I did meet with the Department of Justice and FBI about two months prior to the raid to, you know, discuss the documents and then hold it.
Steve Bannon
Two months before the raid. And it's in the book. Two months before the raid, you meet with Department of Justice, and then they still come down and they kick down the doors and do a raid where they had the. Remember, they had the alternative where they're going to send people if they got hurt, if they got wounded, everything like that. How did that work? How did they not see the president was reaching out to them to try to work and cooperate.
Christina Bobb
Wild Steve, I cannot wait for people to read this book. It is so different from the narrative that the mainstream Media has told. So I met with the president, had his defense team, his defense counsel. I was brought in as the custodian of record. So I was brought in to be a witness for the purpose of being a witness. And I and the defense counsel met with the Department of Justice and the FBI at Mar A Lago. They. The president invited them to Mar A Lago. The president shows up to. To the meeting and says, hey, you.
Steve Bannon
Know, who was the cause? I think it's one of my lawyers. Who was. Who was.
Christina Bobb
It was Evan.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. Fabulous, fabulous guy.
Christina Bobb
Yeah. And we were like, what?
Steve Bannon
You know, and they put him through. They. They put him through the. He actually had changed law firms, I think.
Christina Bobb
Yeah. And you can see. I mean, the story's in there. You can see it. But I. The impression that I have is that they lied to Evan, they were misleading Evan and created a situation where they could lie to the court to create a situation where they could raid Mar A Lago.
Steve Bannon
Okay.
Christina Bobb
I don't think they were honest with Evan.
Steve Bannon
In other words, you're making the case here in the book that they had to set up. They wanted to go raid Mar A Lago, humiliate the president, make it a big thing that he's finally dead and buried, that, you know, now not only had he lost the election, he's an insurrectionist, but now you've had this classified information, all this. So this. This is the kill shot on Trump.
Christina Bobb
Well, don't forget, I actually think they were trying to keep the raid hidden. It wasn't. It wasn't the Department of Justice or FBI who exposed the raid. It was Donald Trump after it was over. I mean, it had been going on, I want to say, 10 hours. They had kept quiet. They didn't have sirens. It was done, like, very, very quietly. President Trump was the one who announced it on Truth Social after it was over, which is very different. We talked about this. When they raided Bolton's home, cash came out right up front, said, hey, we've got a warrant. We've got probable cause. We're executing it. He was very open, which to me, I had a lot of confidence in that. But everything took place in Washington, D.C. like all of the DOJ investigation that was all coming out of D.C. and I suspect. I suspect based on the subpoena and the fact that I got subpoenaed, had to testify in D.C. is that they were trying to create, like, a Hillary Clinton espionage type of scandal around the president. But they didn't have probable cause. They never had probable cause to raid Mar A Lago. And they couldn't even establish probable cause to get an indictment in D.C. which is why they had to transfer it down to Florida, because now they have the entire world looking at them going, why the heck did you raid Mar A Lago? And they had to say something. And so they created this stupid obstruction of justice case in Florida that everybody knew wasn't going to go anywhere. They never wanted to charge Donald Trump with anything in Florida, but they had to because they, they could not get enough probable cause to even get an indictment in Washington, D.C. you and I both know you can indict a ham sandwich.
Steve Bannon
So, I mean, Jack Smith in that crowd could not, cannot get a probable cause indictment.
Christina Bobb
Correct.
Steve Bannon
Wow, this thing is totally. Now, why are we in a situation? We got a couple. The book's defiant, right? By President Trump's lawyer, Christina Bobb. The and by the way, great pull quote by President Trump on the Christina is an incredible fighter and an incredible person. Not too shabby, not too bad. By the president of the United States. Why do people. I must keep you through the next, through this break and keep you around. And Lynn Dale's going to join us. Why should people buy this book?
Christina Bobb
Because you need to know the truth. And when the media tries to manipulate you and say, oh, Donald Trump's weaponizing justice, oh, he's, you know, he's doing this to hurt the people who hurt him. He is not. He is doing it to hurt the people who hurt us, who came after us. He is defending us by investigating what he's investigating now and going after the people who did this. And they have made it expressly clear that they will not back down. They will not stop prosecuting us. As we saw in Michigan today, they're still going after us. They will not stop prosecuting us until they are stopped. And that's what Donald Trump is doing. And if you read this, my hope is that you'll have a really good.
Steve Bannon
Understanding of that and you'll get fired up. The other thing, too, is that it's one of the powers of Rav Real America's Voice, our channel here in the war room, is that Fox doesn't touch this and Newsmax doesn't touch it now for a host of reasons. Part is the lawsuits, but also it's not something they want to delve into. They want to just get past 2020 and past all this like it never happened. That's not. Trump does not want to get past it. He wants to adjudicate this.
Christina Bobb
And it's really important that he does. And I fully support his use of the justice system. Of course, there needs to be probable cause and everything needs to be done accordance with law.
Steve Bannon
Play by the rules.
Christina Bobb
Got to play by the rules, but you got to do it. And so I think it's great that we have a president in office right now that's willing to do it, and I'm hopeful. I think his cabinet appears to be working on that. But, you know, time will tell. We'll see.
Steve Bannon
Do you think Justice Department and Cash and those guys are doing enough in this topic? I know they're swamped with everything else. They just had two huge victories. The Supreme Court.
Christina Bobb
Yeah, I think they're trying. I'm grateful that they're in there doing it. You know, we got to wait and see what happens.
Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
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Christina Bobb
Orange has never really been my color so I think I'm going to avoid that. But I mean they were trying. They were trying.
Steve Bannon
They wanted to break you.
Christina Bobb
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
And have you flip on the President.
Christina Bobb
Yeah, on the president, on Rudy, on anybody. And the great thing about I don't wish this on anybody and all of my co defendants are amazing people. You know, I want them to do well. But the great part about it is like nobody caved, you know and they thought either Rudy or me.
Steve Bannon
No, it's incredible. Of course nobody caved. You guys were all tough. That's the amazing thing, the important thing. This is why we're doing it this weekend. Peter Navarro is going to be there. His new book. He went to prison so he didn't have to. This is what the lesson of Christina Bob is is that if you don't have these people that dig in and say no way. Right. It's the only way we win. Because they want to break people. Yeah, right.
Christina Bobb
And it's scary. I mean I love to put on the tough girl Persona and be like I'm tough.
Steve Bannon
Well, you're a Marine.
Christina Bobb
Yeah, Like I like everyone to think I'm invincible but at the end of the day, I mean it's scary. It's very scary what they're doing. Not just about going to prison, but bankruptcy. Am I gonna go to jail? Am I Gonna get disbarred? Am I gonna lose my career? You know, everything that I've worked for. They burned my reputation to the ground for a while with, with some of these lawsuits about my reporting, which ended up get. I ended up getting dismissed from those cases, which is great, but. But no, they just try to destroy you in every possible way, Mike Lindell.
Steve Bannon
They've tried to destroy you, but you're indestructible. Tell us where. First off, the big news coming out of Michigan today that the Lecter's case has been dropped. We need to do that in Nevada, Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona. Right. Those are the big four left. Your thoughts, Mike Lindell?
Mike Lindell
Well, first of all, Christina, you are such a brave hero. I just got. It's so good to see you.
Christina Bobb
I love you, Mike.
Mike Lindell
They, you know, Steve, this is what like Christina said, these were scare tactics, law, fair use that hadn't been used since the 1700s to this magnitude in our country, probably anywhere in the world in history. They used it to scare everybody, to bankrupt everybody. And this happening in Michigan today, that judge making that ruling, you guys, it's like this, this will, I believe it'll set a precedence. We have broke through the biggest cover up of the biggest crime the world has ever seen. They tried to take our country without firing a sh. Now this is, you know, I won the $5 million challenge just a few months ago. You see these, these lawfare is going to start crumbling. They don't. Back then they needed to use these scare tactics. But one of the things I want to say, Steve, is as we move forward, everybody, as these things start happening. You got it? We have to get the word out that yes, this really happened in 2020 and other elections. Our elections are the worst of any place in the world. And we have to secure them. I just talked to the President the other day about this. We need everybody to spread the word. As these things start happening. This should be big news. And you're not going to see this news on Fox News, everybody. You're not. Okay, you need to see this news. Hey, these guys were charged and they were charged and it was all fake. It was all false, it was all lies. And all the people that are still sitting out there with, with all this law fair against them, I still got two, three billion dollars worth of lawsuits against me with these machine companies. But they push out years and they, you know, and they're all going to go away. And, and, but we have to spread the word so that when our great president comes out with the plan that is coming soon to secure our elections and get to where we need to, like all the other countries that don't have computers and use paper ballots and count it, that everyone in the country wants the same thing of the people. I don't care what party you're in, the people have to be behind this and see what happens.
Christina Bobb
Mike, I gotta ask you, just because you've been hit so hard on this too and so many media articles have come out against you with the amount of attacks that you got back in 2020, 2021, really up until present, with all of the articles and the stories coming out against you. When you won your $5 million issue and when you've been getting these victories, have you seen the same amount of media interest in your victories?
Mike Lindell
Oh, absolutely not. I mean, I was surprised though when it did come out, the $5 million. It did get some coverage, but you'd think that have been the first thing on your Fox News or your Newsmax going, hey, look at Mike Lindell. It was all true. His evidence is true. It is good. But you don't see that right now when they're kind of on to make where they attack me. And I use that to get the word out. So of lately the media is not attacking me. You have, if you Google my name, you see stuff that's two years, three years old. I mean it's old. So they're kind of on to me that way. But the stuff is still, the attacks still go on. Here's the news that's out of me lately. Keith Ellison in Minnesota has come after my Lindell Recovery Network, the biggest attack. I just have to get a lawyer. Just yesterday we got a lawyer that will take the case. Christina, I'll tell you one thing happening now, and Steve is at least now lawyers are really willing to come on and fight. Before you had a lot of lawyers that were afraid because of what was happening to people like you, Christina and Rudy and all these other lawyers that they were afraid to even take these cases. So that part's changing at least. But the media is horrible and the foxes of the world are just as bad as the ones that attack.
Steve Bannon
Mike, just give us, I know you can't go into detail, but just give us kind of an overview. What should we expect in the next couple of weeks when all this gets. You're saying this is going to get announced by President Trump, the White House, other people that are working on it. What can people anticipate?
Mike Lindell
I really think what's going to happen over the next. It could be up to four weeks. You're going to see a lot of evidence. We've had the evidence all along, all these evidence of stolen elections. And you're going to see so much pour out of D.C. about what really happened in not just the 2020, but other elections. And to show how our election platforms, I.e. these computers have to go, how we need, we've got to get rid of mail in balloting ballot or mail in voting. Over 100 countries have banned it. Over 130 or 132 countries have banned computers. You're going to see all this come out. And the evidence is all this stuff is going to come out first, I believe. And then we. It's our job to get the word out to everyone going. And where everyone's going, we've got, what are we going to do to secure our elections? Then the president, I believe, is going to come out with the perfect plan, as he always does, problem, solution. But when he comes out with the solution, everybody's got to be behind him. And that includes everybody, not just Republicans or Democrats. I mean, I don't care if you're conservative, liberal. The people of this country all want secure elections. And that's what I believe. That's the timing. It's going to happen. You're going to see so much in the next four to six weeks. But when they do start pouring out the information, it's our job, everybody, to get the word out. And so everyone's afraid going, hey, we got to secure our elections. I don't care what party you're in, we've got to get, we have to get secure elections here. And we need to do it before. The president said the other day he put out, we have to do it before the midterms. And now he's going to say we need to do it before the primaries in the midterms, which a lot of them are going on. Yeah, we need to do it right. I want to say one more thing. I want to say one more thing. The president knows this is his number one thing that he knows is everything revolves around that, that everything else he could be doing could end up being in vain. And we just did a poll in Minnesota. Our election platforms, everybody having secure elections moved into the top three as far as what people are concerned about when they, when they go to the, go to the, to vote for people. So in a lot of states, it's number one now. Instead of education, borders and all this, it's our election. So people are realizing, Steve, how important.
Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
Perfect. Keep grinding, Mike. In a big day in Michigan. Hopefully not too Later. Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia. Mike Lindell, thank you so much. Go down, take some calls.
Mike Lindell
Yep. All right. I'm going to head down.
Steve Bannon
Call now. Get Mike Lindell. Two things. Number one, we've been talking about the redistricting, the kind of lack of among the general Republican populace, a sense of urgency and all this. That couldn't be farther from the truth. We needed urgency on redistricting, redistricting, getting people fired up. The Democrats are all focus their fire on President Trump. Orange man bad. Orange man terrible. Orange man a dictator, all of it. This is why we need to move with alacrity on everything. And I want to thank the folks down in particularly Patriot Mobile. We're trying to work out something to go to Texas, New York this weekend, maybe Texas the next weekend. If we can work out the next day or two, we'll make hopefully some big announcements. Glenn Story in the team. Patriot Mobile. 972 Patriot put up promo code band. You get a free month of service. This is the best phone service out there because it kind of leverages off of all the installed base of all the big phone services. And here's the beauty. You call, you get somebody what they say with the East Texas accent that picks up their call center. A United States citizen. And you stop giving your money to people that hate you. You're giving it to somebody. Support your values and our causes. 972 Patriot. Patriot Mobile. Glenn Story and the team are legendary. If it had not been for those folks, we would never have gotten the redistricting done. You had Brian Harrison, all that. We had meetings down there at Patriot Mobile. Just, just absolutely incredible what Glenstory and the team has done. Also get ready for a cr. Get ready for something you're not going to be happy with. We're going to fight it. But one thing I can tell you, they're going to have big deficits. What does that mean? The IRS is looking for the money. Tax Network USA. They've solved $1 billion worth of tax problems. You got a letter from the irs. It's sitting in your drawer. Don't think it's going away. It's metastasizing. It's a cancer on you. Go to 800-958-1000 tax network USA. Tell them Bannon sent you. Get a free assessment. They can't help you. Then call the irs. But check it out first. Tax Network usa. Short break. Christina. Bob still with us.
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Steve Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Christina. Bob is. Is with us. You're over at Judicial Watch right now. I realize we can't go into details of what you're working on, but what is it like to be over there with Chris and Tom Fenton? I mean, those guys are fighters.
Christina Bobb
They really are.
Steve Bannon
That's like, that's like a group of. I love them. They're a group of thugs.
Christina Bobb
They are. It's. It's so great. I'm so happy to be there. I'm thrilled to be a part of the Judicial Watch team. And it's pretty amazing, like, just being part of Judicial Watch, you know, when I talk to folks, they ask me where I, where I work or what I'm doing, I say, I'm at Judicial Watch. And everybody goes, oh, wow, they're amazing. So I feel like I get to step into a lot of the work that they've been doing for, I don't know, 40 years or however long. So it's just an incredible organization.
Steve Bannon
Now, is election integrity that you're working on a whole wide range of things.
Christina Bobb
Things. A wide range of things. We do have a solid election integrity team, actually. We have a case going up to the Supreme Court, Bost. We've got our team. I'm not on that case, but I'm excited to kind of watch them as they go through it. And then I'm working on a lot of the lawfare, exposing a lot of the lawfare corruption. And I'm in the midst of hopefully having some good stuff to report soon, but trying to pull that out.
Steve Bannon
People, a lot of people haven't known you over the years, but you've been with us for a long time. Give us your background. You're a Marine, and you came, you became a reporter, and then you joined, actually, President Trump. Walk us through the background.
Christina Bobb
Yeah, so I am an attorney. I was a litigator by trade, joined the United States Marine Corps, did a tour in Afghanistan in Germany, came back, worked at the Department of Homeland Security. And the first.
Steve Bannon
What did you, what did you learn in Afghanistan as a Marine?
Christina Bobb
You know, at the time, it was probably a little bit different than hindsight at the time. You know, you learned the rules of engagement, law of armed conflict.
Steve Bannon
You had to sign off on everything that the, that everybody. On all the hits that they did.
Christina Bobb
Well, my boss did. But, yes, I was there for all of that. And then looking back at it, I can look at it and say, oh, it was a very corporate enterprise, so something I didn't appreciate at the time. But it's an industry. Right. War is an industry. And I love that Donald Trump is trying to end all of that. So that's great. Yeah. And then. So I, I joined his first administration. I was the executive secretary at the Department of Homeland Security and then went to One America News, where.
Steve Bannon
And that's when Homeland Security was turbulent, very turbulent. They were not. I mean, Kelly. And then the, the woman that followed Kelly hated Trump.
Christina Bobb
Kirsten Nielsen.
Steve Bannon
Kirsten Nielsen. And didn't want to implement any of the.
Christina Bobb
And that was the Miles Taylor. I worked with Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs. Like, that was the team I worked with.
Steve Bannon
Miles Taylor was the infamous Anonymous.
Christina Bobb
And then he wasn't. And then he was again. But then he swears he's not lying. Yeah, yeah.
Steve Bannon
Do you think he actually wrote the book?
Christina Bobb
I don't know.
Steve Bannon
I think the New York Times described it at the time. Navarro was all over this. And remember on this show would sit there and go, or later when we started the show is saying. He said that. The New York Times said it was a Cabinet, a cabinet equivalent position. The guy's chief of staff over there.
Christina Bobb
Deputy chief of staff.
Steve Bannon
Deputy chief of staff.
Christina Bobb
Yes.
Steve Bannon
I mean, it's, it's ridiculous. The New York Times gun deck that lied about it totally. About the, the piece they put in the Times and then later the book.
Christina Bobb
He was deputy chief of staff and there were two. As you know, there's more than one deputy chief of staff.
Steve Bannon
And so he's a grundoon.
Christina Bobb
Yeah, yeah. And then he was like, oh, Christina, Bob worked for me because I was the chief of staff. Deputy chief of staff. No, I worked for the other one. Like, he was on the policy side. I was on the administration side. So he has a.
Steve Bannon
That was a mess over there. And they hated what President Trump was trying to implement. They hated, they hated Miller, they hated President Trump. Anything President Trump did. This is folks, to understand that Everything President Trump has accomplished. This is why you gotta deconstruct the administrative state. I mean, you've seen it up close and personal.
Christina Bobb
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Where they. They actually. The politicos. But the permanent folks will just sit there and block you.
Christina Bobb
No, that's true. And I mean, Miles was a political appointee as well.
Steve Bannon
And think about that for a second. We actually picked that guy.
Christina Bobb
Right. Well, I mean, quite honestly, like, we picked Christ Krebs, too. You know, like a lot of the people who did a lot of the damage.
Steve Bannon
Safest election in American history.
Christina Bobb
He knew this, like, what is it, 24 hours after the election, it was like within two weeks that he made that statement. And there had been zero investigation. He had zero probable cause or reason for actually making that statement. But he went out and did it, and then nobody corrected it. And no, it was. It was an absolute disaster. But. Yeah, but I was part of that group. That was what I did.
Steve Bannon
When did you leave and when did you leave Homelands Security?
Christina Bobb
I left right before the election, actually, which was an interesting time to leave because obviously I am a huge Trump supporter and wanted to stay in thinking he was gonna have a second term. But I was. I was blocked. Right. I was working with a bunch of people who hated the president. So I was like, I gotta get out and maybe someday figure out how to get back in. So I left, became a reporter. It was kind of a Right. As Covid hit. And so it was kind of an odd stint to.
Steve Bannon
You were at. You were at right side broadcasting One American.
Christina Bobb
Well, I did. I did some.
Steve Bannon
You're One American. One American News.
Christina Bobb
Yeah, I was One American.
Steve Bannon
American News back. That was the. That was the. That was the highlight. That's when they were on all the cable channels and they had the best. I thought, the best news service. Right. They do these amazing packages.
Christina Bobb
Yeah. I'm really proud of the work that we did at One America News. And that's where I got to cover the Arizona audit. I was on the ground there every day. I remember that. Yeah, that was.
Steve Bannon
That was Christine, Bob, Christina, Bob. And remember the audit in that?
Christina Bobb
I was brawling by myself.
Steve Bannon
That was the Coliseum. That was the spring of 21, correct? Spring of 21.
Christina Bobb
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
And you guys. You guys are in all the way in the summer, Phoenix. God, you're bringing back memories.
Christina Bobb
I know it feels like 100 years ago, but it was not that long ago.
Steve Bannon
So where do people get them? Are you going to do any book signings? You're going to do anything? They have a Skyhorse Anything set up for you?
Christina Bobb
I don't have anything set up right now.
Steve Bannon
But you're working on things.
Christina Bobb
I'm working on that. I'd love to do some actual in in person book signings. You can get it on Amazon. It does say it's sold out on Amazon but that's a very short stint. We have the books available. They just need to get to the warehouse.
Steve Bannon
So they go buy it on Amazon and then they'll. They have to go back multiple times. Do you have a personal site they can go.
Christina Bobb
You go to christinabob.com but then they.
Steve Bannon
Don'T count towards Will they count?
Christina Bobb
Yeah it'll take you to there it'll take you to the Amazon site. So yeah. And Amazon you can buy. Don't worry about the temporary sold out.
Steve Bannon
Social. Social media. Where do people go for your accordance? The Dan Fluette created website. Where do people go?
Christina Bobb
Yeah. Christina. Bob.com. i'm very proud of that. I'm proud of the work that Dan did.
Steve Bannon
Dan did amazing. The book's been a big hit. The rogues book. But you're in that too are you not?
Christina Bobb
I am.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. The where do people go for social media?
Christina Bobb
Christina underscore Bob on X and Instagram.
Steve Bannon
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Date: September 9, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Christina Bobb, Alex Bruesewitz, Mark Mitchell, Mike Lindell
This episode of THE WAR ROOM is centered on urgent battles facing the populist right: redistricting showdowns across key states, the shifting political landscape among young Americans, recent legal victories involving the so-called "fake electors," and ongoing efforts to secure elections and challenge lawfare tactics. Steve Bannon leads a lineup of pro-Trump figures—legal experts, pollsters, and activists—in dissecting both structural and cultural threats to the MAGA movement, while highlighting stories of resilience, institutional capture, and grassroots mobilization.
(Start ~00:37; Main Segment 01:19-06:36)
"There's no prisoners here. This is a no prisoners game... The Democrats play smash mouth. We need to play smash mouth." — Steve Bannon (01:19)
"We're going to be hosting the Hoosier Leadership for America, having a panel and a massive rally... we need Missouri if we can get that other one. Great. We need Florida three. We need Ohio three. Ideally Kentucky, we easily get one." — Alex Bruesewitz (04:38)
"Obama's doing all these fundraisers... all of the money that Obama's raising is going into the districting operation run by Eric Holder. They're playing absolute smash mouth." — Alex Bruesewitz (06:36)
(Start ~07:18; Main Segment 07:18-14:11)
"65% of them think it's completely unfair to young people... 53% of 18 to 39 year olds would prefer that a Democrat Socialist win in 2028; it wins by almost 20 points." — Mark Mitchell (08:42)
"78% of self-ID Republican young people want major industries... nationalized. 79% of Trump 2024 voters want to nationalize major industries." — Mark Mitchell (10:38)
"Young people in this country are screwed. I've said for years they're treated like Russian serfs." — Steve Bannon (12:02)
"Are you interested in winning or conversation? All that matters is victory. Seize the institutions maximalist with a sense of urgency." — Steve Bannon (14:11)
(Start ~17:57, Major Segment 18:28-21:04)
"They were not fake electors. They were legitimate Michigan Trump electors that had created an alternate slate... Dana Nestle... charged them all with forgery." — Christina Bobb (19:04)
(Book Discussion 17:57, 21:04–27:08)
"Two months before the raid... The impression that I have is that they lied to Evan, they were misleading Evan and created a situation where they could lie to the court to create a situation where they could raid Mar A Lago." — Christina Bobb (23:13)
"I was... under investigation by the DOJ, FBI, the California State Bar, the State of Arizona... It's my story, but it's also the alternate. I go into the alternate electors a little bit." — Christina Bobb (21:34)
"Because you need to know the truth. When the media tries to manipulate you and say, oh, Trump's weaponizing justice... He is not... He is defending us by investigating what he's investigating now and going after the people who did this." — Christina Bobb (25:46)
(Mike Lindell Segment 31:39–38:17)
"We have broke through the biggest cover up of the biggest crime the world has ever seen... This should be big news. And you're not going to see it on Fox News, everybody." — Mike Lindell (32:01)
"Lawyers are really willing to come on and fight. Before you had a lot of lawyers that were afraid because of what was happening to people like you, Christina and Rudy..." — Mike Lindell (34:24)
"You're going to see so much in the next four to six weeks... And when they do start pouring out the information, it's our job... to get the word out." — Mike Lindell (35:59)
(43:36–49:09)
"It's so great. I'm so happy to be there. I'm thrilled to be a part of the Judicial Watch team... I'm working on a lot of the lawfare, exposing a lot of the lawfare corruption." — Christina Bobb (43:54)
This episode drives home a sense of urgency on three fronts: (1) the need to match Democratic intensity in redistricting and institutional control, (2) the existential challenge posed by the rise of a disgruntled, economically insecure, and populist youth, and (3) the necessity of confronting and defeating “lawfare” through resilience, public narrative control, and institutional capture (like Judicial Watch).
The episode features raw, combative energy—no room for compromise—paired with stories of personal jeopardy and resolve from those targeted by legal opponents. Christina Bobb’s book “Defiant” is positioned both as a call to arms and a historic record of the MAGA movement’s embattled frontlines.
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Ads, intros, and outros were omitted. This summary captures the full arc of discussion, notable exchanges, and actionable takeaways for those seeking strategy and insight at the heart of the Trump movement.