THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4766)

Summary

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4766)

Date: September 9, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the dramatic congressional hearings about vaccine safety, public health policy, and the contentious political climate surrounding the COVID and post-pandemic era. Steve Bannon hosts, providing commentary and context as witnesses like Dr. Robert Malone (noted vaccine scientist and outspoken critic of certain pandemic policies), Aaron Siri (vaccine-injury attorney), and Senators Ron Johnson and Richard Blumenthal debate issues ranging from vaccine safety data transparency to public accountability and the politicization of health agencies. The episode also touches on breaking global news, particularly regarding Middle East geopolitics and US foreign policy.

Bannon frames the episode as “one of the wildest hearings” in recent memory, setting a combative and urgent tone, often questioning mainstream narratives and demanding accountability from political, scientific, and media establishments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vaccine Safety, Data Transparency, and Legal Immunity

[00:35 – 02:22]

• Aaron Siri describes lawsuits against the CDC demanding studies showing infant vaccines (notably, Hep B, Hib, polio, meningococcal) do NOT cause autism. He alleges the CDC failed to provide relevant studies, submitting only data on MMR or thimerosal.
  • “This notion that there's a mountain of studies out there that show vaccines with autism is ridiculous...” — Aaron Siri [01:00]
• Steve Bannon and Siri discuss the broader issue of liability immunity for vaccine manufacturers:
  • “If vaccines are so safe, why are they the only consumer product where you cannot sue the manufacturer for injuries...?” — Aaron Siri [02:02]
  • “It's a product that causes so much injury that it has to have liability...immunity for the injuries that it's causing. That's what a vaccine is.” — Aaron Siri [02:18]

2. Congressional Hearing – Dr. Malone’s Testimony and Memes Controversy

[03:02 – 29:00]

• Dr. Robert Malone is sworn in to respond to criticism regarding his online activity, particularly the publication of memes (some gun-related) close to the date of a shooting at the CDC building.
  • He explains the meme process (satirical, often crowdsourced, used for political commentary) and his wife’s role in curating them.
  • Malone outlines his extensive vaccinology credentials (over 100 papers, contributor to mRNA vaccine patents).
  • He frames himself as a whistleblower whose career has repeatedly suffered for challenging establishment narratives both during COVID-19 and prior crises.
• Key clarification:
  • “Russian roulette is a metaphor. It is just like any form of roulette, only it has a very severe outcome... Humor, by the way, is free speech. None of those were ones that we originated...none of them had anything to do with inciting violence.” — Dr. Malone [07:39 – 18:18]
  • On accountability requests:
    • “I'd like Lena Wen to apologize...I'd like both of them to be asked, why did you say these things during this crucial time, these things that caused so much pain, that caused so much harm, that was so divisive, that politicized public health...?” — Dr. Malone [20:50]
• Senator Blumenthal directly accuses Malone of posting threatening imagery and questions the appropriateness given his advisory role at CDC, especially during a traumatic event.
  • “And that's a pretty threatening post, I would say.” — Sen. Blumenthal [25:00]
  • “Did you consider how they would react?” [after CDC shooting] — Sen. Blumenthal [27:08]
  • Malone admits:
    • “No, I didn’t. I had to go feed the horses, take care of the farm. My wife put together the memes... Gunfire is normal in Atlanta. It happens all the time.” — Dr. Malone [27:08]
    • “Don’t you regret those posts?” — Sen. Blumenthal
    • “I don’t.” — Dr. Malone [27:38]

3. Steve Bannon’s Editorial Framing

[05:41, 07:00, spread throughout]

• Sets the stakes as a culture war over truth, public health policy, and governmental overreach.
  • “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on these people.” — Steve Bannon [04:42]
• Draws connections between legal efforts to unseal vaccine data (thanks to Aaron Siri and activist groups) and wider political movements against “Big Pharma” and what Bannon sees as collusion between government, the media, and corporations.

4. Middle East Geopolitics and Biden/Netanyahu/Trump Drama

[34:28 – 45:16]

• Bannon segues into a passionate and fiery critique of US Middle East policy, targeting:
  • Netanyahu’s handling of Hamas and Qatar, alleging secret deals and lack of coordination with US President (Trump).
  • Mainstream conservative pundits and politicians (e.g., Mark Levin) whom Bannon accuses of dual loyalty (“they don’t put America first, they put Israel first” — [34:28]).
  • Bannon laments US entanglement and lack of communication, arguing Netanyahu is reckless and endangers US interests and global Jewish communities.
• “Netanyahu and his government are destroying not only the state of Israel and going to turn it into a Jewish Pakistan. They are...turning the world against the Jewish community, full stop.” — Steve Bannon [52:24]
• Criticizes what he terms the “Greater Israel Project” and Israel’s “sideshow,” urging US restraint and focus on internal problems (border, crime, economy).

5. Government Shutdown and Fiscal Policy

[46:01 – 50:00]

• Bannon discusses the possibility (and strategic desirability) of a government shutdown to force “essential vs. not essential employees” and shrink the federal bureaucracy.
• Cites Trump’s use of “rescissions, pocket rescissions, impoundments,” projecting an imminent constitutional crisis over budget strategy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Aaron Siri:
  “We sued the CDC for the studies...they ended up in stipulated order. They gave us 20 studies. Not one of them has to do with those vaccines. They're all MMR or they're all thimerosal. This notion that there's a mountain of studies out there that show vaccines with autism is ridiculous.” [00:58]

• Dr. Robert Malone:
  “I've been a whistleblower and had my profession destroyed. ... I make a living as a licensed physician publishing a substack essay once a day, day after day, year after year after year... Humor, by the way, free speech.” [08:31 – 13:21]
  “I'd like both of them to be asked, why did you say these things ... that politicized public health during the COVID crisis unnecessarily. Why did you say those things? Do you regret them now?” [20:50]

• Steve Bannon:
  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on these people.” [04:42]
  “They're dragging us into attacking a capital of a country that President Trump is very close to...We got enough problems, okay? ... We don't need your problems. That you're instigating an attack on a country that President Trump has said we're going to defend.” [40:00]

• Senator Blumenthal vs. Dr. Malone:

  • “That's a pretty threatening post, I would say.” — Blumenthal [25:00]
  • “If you believe that's threatening, then clearly you haven't watched Netflix. We are constantly bombarded by violent images...That is not a threatening post, in my opinion.” — Malone [25:05]
  • “Don't you regret those posts?” — Blumenthal [27:34]
  • “I don't.” — Malone [27:38]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:35] – Vaccine injury legal battles (Aaron Siri on CDC litigation)
• [02:22] – Senator Johnson’s panel wrap up, introduction of Dr. Malone
• [07:39] – Dr. Malone’s credentials, meme controversy, comments on public accountability
• [21:30] – Senator Blumenthal’s direct questioning of Malone about memes, threat perception, and role at CDC
• [27:00 – 28:00] – Malone’s lack of regret and rationale for posting memes after CDC shooting
• [34:28] – Middle East analysis: Bannon on Netanyahu, Qatar, and US policy
• [46:01] – Government shutdown discussion, Bannon on Trump’s fiscal maneuvering
• [52:24] – Bannon’s closing remarks on Israel, US alliances

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Tone and Language

• The tone is combative, skeptical of mainstream narratives, frequently mixing humor and sarcasm with outrage and polemic. Bannon and most guests use populist rhetoric, often framing the issues as existential clashes between the “regime”/establishment and “the people.”
• Anti-establishment, openly defiant of government agencies, media, and global institutions; sympathetic to the grievances of vaccine skeptics and conservative populists.

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Summary for First-time Listeners

This episode of The War Room is a raw, contentious look at vaccine policy, accountability in public health, and the crisscrossing political fires of post-pandemic America and Middle East turmoil. Dr. Malone’s testimony—both defensive and self-vindicating—stands at the center, as he faces off with Senator Blumenthal over the boundaries of free speech, public responsibility, and old wounds from the COVID-19 crisis. Steve Bannon, as always, ties these battles to a larger culture war, arguing that truth, sovereignty, and American interests are on the line—whether in congressional hearings, the CDC, or in the sands of the Middle East.

Transcript

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[Aaron Siri]

The kids whose parents typically don't need these vaccines. Can I just say one thing about the autism bit? Just because it's been bandied about. You know, we sued the CDC for the studies that support that the vaccines given in the first month of life do not cause autism. We sued them because they wouldn't give it to us. We said, give us the studies that show the meningococcal vaccine, the polio vaccine, the Hep B vaccine, the Hib vaccine and the Hep B vaccine. Those five vaccines don't cause autism. You know what?

[Steve Bannon]

They provided none.

[Aaron Siri]

We sued them in federal court. They ended up in stipulated order. They gave us 20 studies. Not one of them has to do with those vaccines. They're all MMR or they're all thimerosal. This notion that there's a mountain of studies out there that show vaccines with autism is ridiculous. And I've heard the measles death in Texas bandied about. We represent one of those families. We've seen the medical records. One of those kids, I can tell you for certain, did not die from measles. He died from hospital malfeasance. That's what he died from. He wasn't even having measles when he died. And we'll be putting out a support on that. And somebody else has reviewed the medical records of a second kid. I agree we shouldn't engage in fear mongering. And if we were talking about the overview of the scientific literature instead of randomly looking at studies, maybe start with the Institute of Medicine reviews of the entire body of literature from 1991, 94, 2012, the HRQ reports, and you could see how vacuous vaccine safety science is. I'll leave with one last point. Look, if vaccines are so safe, why are they the only consumer product where you cannot sue the manufacturer for injuries to claim who's made Safe? There's been 1980, it's been over 30 years. They're telling you have be safe, hip safe. These are safe. You still need immunity. Okay, let me tell you my Definition of vaccine, Senator. It's a product that causes so much injury that it has to have liability for the injuries that it's caused, immunity for the injuries that it's causing. That's what a vaccine is.

[Senator Johnson]

Okay. So again, I want to thank the witnesses. And again, you know, Dr. Scott, I'd love to have you back and talk about treatment because again, that's. That's what kind of drives me nuts. Now, Dr. Malone, I see you just standing up. I will say that the advice of my staff is, you know, let. Let you respond to the comments made against you to the media. But if you want to. I mean, I'm gonna not. I'm gonna ignore the advice of my. My. My staff here. But you'd have to be sworn in if you want to come up here. I'll offer. I'll offer that opportunity. I'll dismiss. I'll just. Okay. I'll dismiss the other panel.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Mr. Scott, I'd like to say hello. My name is Dr. Robert Malone. I had MRNA vaccines. I know the answers to all those questions that you don't have.

[Senator Johnson]

He's not here. Close out this hearing. You want to do it? Okay.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

I've been twice.

[Senator Johnson]

Okay.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Twice during this meeting.

[Senator Johnson]

Okay, just hang on. I've got their committee rules. Hang on.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Civility.

[Senator Johnson]

Okay, so we. By rule, we have to allow Senator Blumenthal to come back here. Okay. So before I do any of this, we have to give him that opportunity. Do. Is there a time limit on this? Yeah, I know. Okay, so why don't you. Again, this panel is dismissed. We'll. I'll sit here.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

I congratulate Dr. Scott on his ability to mine three minds. Now, I've been trained and I know that one of the things you cannot do is infer intent. Dr. Scott has done exactly that. He has misconstrued what I said about Rochelle Wolinsky and about Lena. Wynn.

[Senator Johnson]

This panel. You're dismissed. Thank you again for your testimony. And you know, Dr. Scott, we might. Might get another invitation letter here sometime in the future. Okay. Thank you much.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, Senator Johnson. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Senator Blumenthal]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any the of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Tuesday the 9th of September in the year of our Lord 2025. You're in for the late afternoon early evening show. We promise you fireworks. One of the wildest hearings I've seen in a long time. That was the end of it. But the whole day was kind of like a throwdown. It was a subcommittee by or it was a committee by Senator Johnson and Blumenthal is the co chair and it was about good science of supporting analysis of vaccines. But right there you saw what Aaron Seri, one of the more controversial people in our movement and Dale Bigtree's lawyer. So Aaron, and I think, Aaron, I think I'm correct that he was going to be chief of staff for Bobby Kennedy in the transition and he got blown out because it came to him like he's anti vax. He's the worst. He's a demon and brilliant guy. I think Aaron is the person we owe because it was Dale Bigtree and the folks down in Texas that went to court. Remember when Pfizer had the information and studies locked up for 70, what, 75 years we would have never known any of this, none of it. Amy Kelly and Naomi Wolf and daley clout and 3,500 volunteers from the war room posse that went through all that data, all that analysis came out with two best selling books, the Pfizer papers. And Naomi was over at the European Parliament this week. Hangover. We're going to go back, they're going to swear in Malone and then they're going to let Malone counter anyway. Wild day and vaccines, bombing and Qatar, all kind of information. Let's go back live to this hearing and we'll jump in.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Various comments have been made about intent, meaning concerning in particular three tweets or three, they're not actually tweets. They're part of a weekly roundup of memes that my wife and I publish through our substack Malone News. We put out over the last four years thousands of essays and we get a little bit of a break. We, we put them out seven days a week but we get a little bit of a break on Fridays and Sundays by doing a roundup of memes that other people have posted previously. They're sourced from many different places and we typically cluster Them around topic areas. Now, unfortunately, the morning and just a little more context. Of course I speak here as a private party even though I am appointed as a special government employee serve at the discretion of the Secretary on the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices for the Centers for Disease Control and prevention. I have 30 years of experience in vaccine development. I have multiple fundamental patents and discoveries of which six have to do with MRNA vaccines. They were all filed between 1990 and 1991 that have subsequently issued. Those are the foundational documents in RNA vaccination history. They go back to my original invention. Disclosure about the use of RNA as a drug at the Salk Institute. Working in Inder Verma's lab in the molecular biology and virology laboratories of the salk Institute circa 1987. This predates the work of Kariko and Weissman by well over a decade. MRNA vaccines were reduced to practice at Vical in approximately 1991, again published. I hold over 100 papers, thousands and thousands of citations. I'm recognized internationally for my work and as I say, it goes far beyond MRNA vaccines. I've been asked to testify at the World Health Organization twice. I played a key role in bringing forward the new Health Public Health Agency of Canada vaccine for Ebola and got it sold to the company Merck because I believed Merck was the most appropriate firm to further develop that vaccine. And I helped get hundreds of millions of dollars of federal funding to support the development of that Ebola vaccine at Merck, which was subsequently licensed. I am a vaccinologist. I am an immunologist. I am trained as a pathologist. I taught medical school pathology for decades. But when I spoke about medical ethics early on in the COVID crisis and the fact that coercion, compulsion and enticement were not consistent with the norms of medical ethics, a discipline that I've been trained in extensively because I do clinical research. That led to my being asked to comment about the technology for RNA vaccination, having developed it. That led to an incredible wave of hate and blacklisting and defamation. Now, among those were many articles from say, New York Times, the Washington Post, Atlantic Monthly, Business Insider, et cetera, et cetera. But the consequence of this was that my consulting business that had been operating for over 20 years was destroyed. It's not the first time that I've been a whistleblower and had my profession destroyed. Unlike some of these folks as physicians that were unwilling to speak out, I have spoken out. I spoke out in particular about the death that occurred at UPenn. Having to do with Jesse Gelsinger and the use of adenovirus vectored gene therapy. And when I did that, I destroyed my academic career, which is why I transitioned to working primarily with the US army, particularly working in biodefense. I have many friends within the biodefense sector, have worked in there for years, have secret clearance from the Department of Defense, have been involved in virtually every major biodefense vaccine product that has been developed for the US Military. But I destroyed again my consulting business by speaking out about what I was observing, particularly about the bioethics of the mandates, the coercion and enticement that occurred. And since then, I've had to find some way to make a living. And the way that I make a living as a licensed physician is to publish a substack essay once a day, day after day after day, year after year after year. And as I said, every Friday and every Sunday, my wife and one of our associates pulls together memes from the prior week, assembles them around topic areas, and publishes them. Unfortunately, the morning and your initial statements conflated this the timeline, the morning of Friday when this unfortunate event occurred. At the cdc, we published one of the memes of many, including one that referenced you and your attacks on Jeannine Pierrot, accusing her of being a conspiracy theorist. But in that collection of memes there was one that used a metaphor for random chance with severe outcomes. That metaphor was Russian roulette. Russian roulette is a metaphor. It is just like any form of roulette, only it has a very severe outcome. And that particular meme meant to make a point that when you have a random event with a severe outcome, it can appear statistically to be inconsequential, but in fact it has a major impact. Hence the chamber with one bullet in a revolver and the statement that five out of six would agree that Russian roulette is safe. It is a metaphor. It is not a violent indication. It had no indication of any weapon being pointed at anybody. Then on the following Sunday, after the event that occurred approximately 5:00pm at the CDC and I concur with you and have expressed as a member of the ACIP to CDC my deep regret about what transpired. But the following Sunday, two of the memes in the collection referenced Elizabeth Warren's statement that one doesn't need 20 rounds to be a hunter. If you need 20 rounds, you're not a good hunter. And that provoked a lot of response from Second Amendment supporters. And two of those responses we happen to collect and post together one of Them specifically referenced the senator and made a statement. The meme went, well, she's saying if you need 20 rounds to be a hunter, you're not a very good hunter. And the response was, if you need to disarm the population, then you're not a very good governor. The other one was the one that you've posted. I don't believe that's an automatic weapon, but I'm not a specialist. I don't actually own any guns, except for a couple pellet guns that I use to kill rodents on my horse farm in central Virginia, about 10 miles from the home, former home of James Madison that was cited earlier as a strong supporter of an armed populace and the Second Amendment. But I'm not a gun nut. I don't carry guns. The meme was referring to the senator's facetious statement and it was poking fun back at her. And I think most would agree that humor is a very effective way to resolve tension and to discuss sensitive political topics. And our Friday funnies and Sunday strip are probably what is paying most of the bills now and allowing me to buy hay for my horses because my audience really enjoys them. That's all they were, was meme collections. Humor, by the way, free speech. And none of those were ones that we originated, by the way, and none of them had anything to do with inciting violence. You made a statement earlier that I have advocated violence against scientists. I object to that. I haven't advocated violence for anybody. And those memes do not advocate violence. The first one refers to basically a quirk in statistics, and the second one refers to a political statement from Senator Elizabeth Warren, which was intended on her part to be humorous, and the responses were also intended as humor. Thank you for allowing me to comment on your. Let's say. And by the way, I think you also said on MSNBC that I was unqualified to serve on the acip. When I heard that, it was brought to my attention, moments after you said it, I called up your office and I said, you know, the senator probably has never read my cv. Can I come in and talk to one of your staff at your office and go over this, thinking that there must be a misunderstanding? And I was given the number, the contact information, email, to set up a meeting with one of your staffers, and I would have been glad to drive up here from my farm in central Virginia and meet with one of your staffers, go over my CV and discuss your concerns? Unfortunately, they never got back to me, so I'm for me, by the way, Senator Blumenthal, I used to be a registered Democrat. I grew up in the central coast of California. What I've observed during the Biden administration completely turned me around. Like many people, like Sasha Stone, like many people in this audience, regarding the statements that were made earlier by the United States young doctor in which he cited a tweet that I put out. Actually, my wife reprimanded me. She thought that was a little too edgy. Where I commented on Anthony Fauci seeking refuge in Siena, Italy. Now, how do I know about that? Because I go to Italy a lot and I was approached by two whistleblowers, including one from the policeman's union that has been tracking Anthony Fauci's movie movements within Italy and told me about a number of things that he has been doing and asked me to get that information back to the government. So I was aware of his movements in Italy, hence the comment. And regarding my comment about Lena Wen and the former director of the cdc, the former director has repeatedly lied to the American public and then after resignation, or whatever you want to call it, has gone completely silent, not to be heard of, no testimony, no request for forgiveness, no acknowledgement of those lies. And more about those lies, I suspect may come out soon. I speculate because I'm not able to speak about what we know at the ACIP regarding Lena Nguyen. She made a series of statements about what is essentially violence that she believed should be done to the unvaccinated during COVID I'd like Lena Nguyen to apologize. I'd like to know where Lena Nguyen is. I'd like to know what she's doing right now. Not because I want to cause her any violence or harm, but I'd like her to be held accountable. I'd like both of them to be asked, why did you say these things during this crucial time, these things that caused so much pain, that caused so much harm, that was so divisive that politicized public health during the COVID crisis unnecessarily. Why did you say those things? Do you regret them now? Do you have any sense of what you did? That's why I'd like to know where they are. I'd like to have them stand up and acknowledge to the American public that they did wrong. Thank you for the opportunity to speak and to address these comments, and I'm glad to respond to any question you happen to want to ask. Senator Blumenthal, recognizing that I am under oath.

[Senator Johnson]

Dr. Malone, Senator Blumenthal, have any questions?

[Senator Blumenthal]

Just a couple of questions. I just want to make sure I have the facts right here. First of all, let me say I was unaware that you called my office. If you want to sit down, I'd.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Be happy to do so, and I'm glad to do so anytime. Thank you.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Second, you're a member of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices in the cdc, correct?

[Senator Johnson]

Correct.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Sir, you were appointed by Secretary Kennedy after He fired all 17 of the previous members. Correct.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Which I had no role in doing.

[Senator Blumenthal]

My view. Tell me if I'm wrong. Is the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, also known as asap, is a position of immense public trust.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

That's your opinion. Personally, I think the ACIP is a federal FACA committee which should be immune from intimidation and which has had mission creep. That's my opinion. I think that this committee and the. The sense of importance attributed to this committee is grossly overplayed.

[Senator Blumenthal]

The committee's role has responsibility for deciding.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

No, it doesn't. This committee has responsibilities for advising the.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Director of the cdc, only deciding, in its view, what vaccines should be recommended, and then providing that advice to the secretary or to the cdc. Correct?

[Dr. Robert Malone]

That is one interpretation. I take a much narrower view of the charter of the A CIP Having.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Had to speak, let me just say I view this committee as a one of public trust. I view it as seriously responsible for providing advice to the secretary, and that's the reason why he wanted you there. And I have no quarrel with your expressing your views as a matter of First Amendment rights, whether they were intended for humor or some other reason. But in a position of public trust, you have a responsibility. Consider the practical effect of your words beyond just your personal consideration, and you may have a First Amendment right to say what you wish. And you do. I would defend that right, but as a matter of a public official in a position of public trust, the posts that you did had consequences in your mind. I'm sorry?

[Dr. Robert Malone]

In your mind, you made an interpretation about that. Let me just say the bulk of Americans recognize humor.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Your comment is that on the morning of August 8th, hours before a gunman fired 200 rounds at the CDC.

[Steve Bannon]

All true.

[Senator Blumenthal]

You put up a post with a gun and we had it here.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Yes, it was posted.

[Steve Bannon]

You.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

You shared it with us at the beginning of the meeting.

[Senator Blumenthal]

And that's a pretty threatening post, I would say.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

If you believe that's threatening, then clearly you haven't watched Netflix. We are constantly bombarded by violent images. They are part of our culture. That is not a threatening post, in my opinion.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Unfortunately, we are also all too commonly experiencing gun violence in this country, which does not.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

That's a fascinating point because of the linkage between gun violence and certain medications.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Which does not condone any person in a position of public trust doing something that could in some way normalize it or make it. Okay, let me just ask.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

So you. You infer that that normalizes gun violence, that post about random chance.

[Senator Johnson]

So we're gonna have.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Let me just.

[Senator Johnson]

Cameron, I want to wrap this up.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Because here, I'll end it with this question.

[Steve Bannon]

Wrap it up.

[Senator Blumenthal]

48 hours after that gunman killed a police officer guarding the cdc, as a member of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices for the cdc, you posted that.

[Dr. Robert Malone]

Second one here together with another one that made it very clear that both were about Elizabeth Warren's statement, which is the one at the top of that mean.

[Senator Blumenthal]

So my question to you, Dr. Malone, is, as a member of that advisory committee to the cdc, did you think about how the dedicated employees of the cdc, the scientists and researchers and public health advocates would take that kind of post, given that they had just been through one of the most traumatic experiences of their lifetime, their building under lockdown because there was an armed gunman firing at them and killing a police officer? Did you consider how they would react?

[Dr. Robert Malone]

And Senator Blumenthal, I'm under oath, and the truth is, no, I didn't. I had to go feed the horses, take care of the farm. My wife put together the memes. I looked through them and I said, go. Go ahead and post it. Now, in terms of the traumatization of CDC members, they live in Atlanta. I used to live in North Atlanta. Gunfire is normal in Atlanta. It happens all the time.

[Senator Blumenthal]

Don't you regret those posts?

[Dr. Robert Malone]

I don't.

[Senator Blumenthal]

I have no further question.

[Senator Johnson]

Okay, thank you. Probably wouldn't even notice if you wouldn't have blown her out of proportion. But anyway, the record for this hearing remain open for 15 days until Wednesday, September 24, 2025, at 5p for the submission of statements and questions for the record. This hearing is adjourned.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, thank you very much. Another wild day on Capitol Hill about vaccines and big pharma. It's going to get even crazier, folks. This battle is now fully enjoined and Bobby Kennedy put out today the Make America Healthy Again report. Mary Holland is at the hearing today. She's going to step out and call us. Mom. Charlie. We're going to take a break. We got Philip, Patrick. We got so much to go through. It's pretty wild, but we had. That hearing was so intense. Although in Dr. Malone. I got to confess, when Dr. Malone started doing the Malone funnies years ago, I did comment, like, the second time he put it up, I said, you know, brother, we're in a fight right now over with the most powerful people in the world, these vaccine companies, and you just got to be very, very, very careful. So anyway, he and Blumenthal are getting into it. Blumenthal put up some memes that Dr. Malone put up and Dr. Malone defending it right there as head of the new advisory committee. They blew out the 17 people and put Dr. Malone in charge with others. Bobby Kennedy today. I have a couple clips of Bobby Kennedy playing after the break. Murray Howland's going to join us. Also quite confusing. Hey, I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. I told you that Hamas is not getting their money from Iran. This whole thing of Tel Aviv, Levin in this crowd about, oh, Iran, you know, they got Hamas. No, Hamas is the franchisees of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is financed out of Qatar. Netanyahu hit them today, particularly their negotiation team. I see pattern recognition here. Now. President Trump just put a true social. Didn't know anything about it. Didn't get a heads up, no warning or maybe a few minutes before. But Netanyahu, our best ally, our best ally never came and kind of looked for permission or they're attacking the Gulf Emirates now. And don't get me wrong, if you gotta attack one, hey, I'm all down for a cutter. I've been saying for a while, I don't know why we're over there, why we're saying they're our buddies, why David Sacks and that crowd's all over there. Lost on me. The railhead for the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood. However, they're gonna try to take them out inside the capital city of Doha. You might want to run that by somebody, just, you know, thinking out loud, just asking questions.

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Are saying that they acted alone, that this was carried out by the Israeli military. Israeli intelligence that it took a long time to plan, that it took months to gather all of the intelligence and that they launched the operation that Prime Minister Netanyahu authorized the operation after the shooting attack which Hamas claimed responsibility for he here in Jerusalem yesterday. They US Officials have told NBC News that the United States did get a heads up about the attack shortly before it took place. It's unclear exactly how much of a heads up the US Was given and according to US Officials, they they told the Qataris that the attack was coming. But it can't be much of a heads up because according to Qatari officials, at least one Qatari security official was killed by the Israeli strikes. So they the Israelis say they they did it. They said they told the Americans ahead of time. The Americans passed that on to the Qataris. But Qatar still had some forces in the room and in terms of its success, Israel isn't commenting on the exact results. They're saying who was targeted, that they targeted the top leaders of Hamas, say, saying they targeted the people who were tied to and Masterminds of the October 7th massacre. But Hamas has come out quite explicitly issuing a long statement and a list of names saying that the top leaders all survived, but that some of their relatives, security guards and lower level aides were killed instead in this.

[Steve Bannon]

Aren't we so see President Trump, aren't they negotiating a peace look, let's be blunt. And Tel Aviv, Levin and this entire crowd who are not really Americans, they don't put America first, they put Israel first. So their allegiance is not to. Levin's allegiance is not to this country Here. You've had it. I said it over and over and over again. Netanyahu is out of control. He's destroying Israel. He's turning the world against Jews throughout the world. And everything President Trump's done to have this guy's back, including bail him out. Bail him out on a war he started with the Persians that he couldn't finish. Number one, he didn't have the capacity, he knew he didn't have the capacity to take out the nuclear enrichment program, including the above ground which we had to put 30 Tomahawk missiles on top of and he couldn't defend the people of Israel. He was getting pounded. President Trump stepped in with overwhelming force and ended the 12 day war and everything he owes President and the United States, America's best ally. America's best ally. Hey look, I'm all for hitting the Muslim Brotherhood. Where have you heard on this? You've heard on this show from time. From the beginning, Cutter Finance. I don't understand why we were playing footsies with Qatar. Maybe I can read in the papers and see what Qatar's doing about spreading money around. They financed the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is the Hamas is the local franchisee. Netanyahu took Qatar money, Muslim Brotherhood money into Gaza with this whole theory of okay, let's take their money, see if we can't make it work. There's a scandal that he won't let be investigated. The people around him took cash money from Qatar. The head of Mossad put is putting this book out right now eviscerating Netanyahu and says he wants to run against him. He kind of in the book, he said, hey, they're taking money like crazy. And no, I had to kind of quasi investigate it with Mossad, had nothing to do with it and I'm not taking any money. The Qatar scandal in Israel is huge and you're telling Me that that guy Netanyahu organizes and thinks through an attack and didn't even give President Trump a fare thee well kind of notified President Trump's truce, says the military got notified moments before it happened. It was too late to do anything bad. What, what are we doing? What are the Gulf Emirates supposed to say? What is uae, who's actually kind of a semi ally down there are the Saudis. Not that you can trust any of them. What did I say? National conservatism at the conference last week. Gosh, Steve Bannon, so prescient. It's a sideshow. The Middle east is a sideshow in Israel. The Greater Israel Project authored by Netanyahu is a sideshow to a sideshow. And it's quite dangerous. Where are you? Tel Aviv? Levin, where is everybody? About? About. They're dragging us into attacking a capital of a country that President Trump is very close to. President Trump went to Qatar, sat there in the op. They had a thing on stage and said, hey, I've known the sheik and the family for a long time. We're going to figure things out. They've got the safety, they got the security of the United States. Hey, President Trump lays it down, it is what it is. And you don't give a fare thee well. Like, hey, we're thinking of doing this. What do you think? No, I don't think you ought to do that. And you notice they go and try to kill the negotiating teams. Hmm, I think I'm seeing some pattern recognition. Let me think. Oh, yeah, that's right. On the so urgent Thursday night when they had to go in and bomb Persia, it had to happen on Thursday evening because as Netanyahu told Bret Bear on Sunday on Fox on that special six o' clock special report on Sunday evening. Well, they're a year or so away from getting a nuclear weapon. He's been saying that for 30 years. There was no urgency. Zero. It was a decapitation attack because they tried to take out the senior levels of the military and they did take out the negotiating team that Witkoff had a meeting on the books in Muscat, Oman on Sunday. It's what they do. So I want to see him. All the cheerleading now. Oh, that's right. Fox has pivoted to Venezuela. That's their new deal. Got to get a war going somewhere. So now we pivoted to Venezuela. Not the Maduro done Ray killing. Not the Muslim Brotherhood done Ray killing. Folks, there's a lot of people in the world are killing. Okay, is that what we're supposed to do is go wander around the planet, start killing them. Hey, you know me. Let's start in Beijing. Let's roll. There's some warlords down in Sub Saharan Africa killing Christians like crazy. Let's hit there too. Let's, let's just roll. Is this what we do now? And what's Netanyahu's excuse going to be this time? President Trump put the true social out. What was not his strongest truth social. I would be outraged. You've had this guy's back. A guy that stiffed you on soleimani with about 10 minutes to go, pulls out a guy that is the first guy to kiss Biden's ass on that Saturday when the Associated Press announced it. They steal the election on Tuesday night. We're fighting like crazy. People are peeling off. We're hammering like crazy. Fucking fox is starting to get a little jiggy, right? They're getting a little jiggy by Wednesday, I think Laura Ingraham does the eulogy for Donald Trump. He's gone. Trump's gone. People are peeling off the hardcores. You know who you are. We're digging in. The election stolen. Let's figure this thing out on Saturday. The Associated press at about 2 o' clock calls it. The horns are blaring all over here. The horns are blaring all over the place. Oh, it's celebration in the imperial capital. Who's the first guy to call him up and congratulate him? Netanyahu. Netanyahu. And then today this a beauty. Hey, don't get me wrong. A lot of Muslim Brotherhood bad hombres deserve to be killed. It's the process of how you kill them. Not when President Trump says, hey, I'm trying to get a deal done here. I'm trying to get this thing organized. Because you're not going to slaughter 2 million people in Gaza is not going to happen on my watch. And President Trump knows that no nation on earth looks like they're sitting there welcoming them with open arms, no matter how big a check you write. And the Jordanians don't want them and the Turks don't want them and Egypt doesn't want them. And hey, Right. So you're going to have to figure it out. It's going to take a while. So maybe what you don't do is go kill the negotiating team. That always gets to some gunfire, some people shot up. Yes, I got that. There are people getting killed over there every day. It's the process. You don't come to the President. You don't Come to Rubio or Pete Hegseth or the massage run in the CIA. You don't go to mayor. The Texas mayor. Right, Ratcliffe. You don't go to Mayor Ratcliffe and ask him. Nobody gets a heads up. You notify the military right before it's about to go, I guess to let them know, hey, you can put your thaad systems down. These are coming from us. I mean, how does this work? We're getting sucked into this thing deeper and deeper with people, with Netanyahu always comes to us to bail him out. Always comes with us to bail him out. This is where Tel Aviv Levin and these guys Ladi Ball face, they weren't winning the Persian war. President Trump did him the biggest solid in history by sending in the bombers and the cruise missiles to end, as President Trump said, total obliteration. Did President Trump not say that? Total obliteration end the 12 day war. He counted it right up. 12 days, boom, done, over. No regime change, no we're going to march on Tehran. Not going to happen. He says get this mess sorted up. And I want it sort. I want it sorted out because for political reasons you've been screwing around with this. And listen, I still want my seven October. By this time in World War II, we had done two inquiries into Pearl Harbor. So don't tell me you got too much going on is like the excuse, oh well, the Mossad was so focused on Iran that we weren't focused on Hamas. So why is that you keep playing up Tehran. Why is it, why is it the wolf inside the door, the wolf inside the gate you don't pay attention to? You're making your problems our problems. And people in this country don't want your problems. That whole day is over. People don't want it. That's your problem. And you're instigating and causing bigger problems. We got enough problems, okay? We got enough problems. We got a carrier battle group off of Venezuela right now. We got 4,000 Marines in harm's way. We got a country they're still bringing drugs into. We got major the biggest cities, greatest cities in the world out of control. We got hurtling towards a shutdown of the government that you're either going to get a one year clean cr. Write this down. Take number two personal out right now. One year clean CR that would one year clean CR would be on Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden's budget. I think it's just a continuation. The last cr, a clean CR or from the last one that passed was back in those days or an omnibus that's going to jam you or a short cr. But no cuts. Anything we got. We have enough problems. We don't need your problems. That you're instigating an attack on a country that President Trump has said we're going to defend. I don't know, maybe it kind of makes him look bad on the world stage. A guy you guy you owe everything to. Unbelievable, indescribable, short break.

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We've moved. In fact, the president was supposed to have a signing of a proclamation that still hadn't happened. Hey. The reason is, I think there's a couple of three things that have kind of taken up the afternoon's agenda. Axios is reporting is a Brock David over there or David Brock, fantastic reporter. He's like he is to the Mossad as David Ignatius is to Langley. He's getting. When you're reading Axios, you're getting inside baseball from that guy. His. His report this afternoon. I don't think I had time put. No, I just put it up on getter. Trump's very upset. Yeah, I can imagine. Very upset. Great question from the engine room. Rescissions about the CR Is everything that's going on. One of the reasons you're having this kind of break right now is that the rescissions have been symbolic, but it shows you how President Trump wants to roll. Not just rescissions, pocket rescissions and impoundments. This is going to be one of the big things President Trump's telling him. No, I am taking out the $14 billion, the 9.4 billion in the 5 for this fiscal year. I think they may toss in a couple more. Any saying, hey, any. Anything's got to. I'm doing the rescissions, I'm doing the pocket resistance. And this is going to be wait for it, constitutional crisis. We're going to have to get up to the Supreme Court and get that one. So that's why I think they ought to cut right to the chase and go to the impoundments. But a great question. All of this is going to be part of it. They haven't shown their cards. I think the three alternatives is a Tom Cole led 90 day short CR to get you to November so then they can kick the can down the road because the holidays a one year cr. And I'm almost positive that we're still on Pelosi and Biden's number. Not kidding because I don't think you can change anything on it or you get an omnibus. Those are great alternatives, aren't they? Those are three lovely alternatives for a crowd that hates hate crs. You're going to, you're going to be loving this. You're going to be loving this in the evening of the 30th of September. I think it's on a Tuesday this time. You're going to be loving that. You're going to be excited about that. I don't think so. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. No work's been done on appropriations and they're not really going to do any work on appropriations because they're going to go this way. I say President Trump let him shut the government down. Let's do it this time. You know why? You got essential versus not essential. The Democrats are all jiggy about this. Let's take down the administrative state. This way if you're central, come to work and we'll pay for it. If you're not essential, we'll have to rethink it. Let's roll in one fell swoop. Birch Phillips going to be here on Thursday. We changed around because President Trump supposed to do the proclamation. I didn't want to get Philip in here and get jammed. Also California, the folks of California are going to be here tomorrow. Hopefully got a couple of big special guests lined up already. The video and the photos of the young woman, Ukrainian woman butchered on this train are now coming out and man, it is heart rendering. There's a photo out there when she looks up where she got stabbed at her murderer and it's a public execution. That photo will be in blazing in people's minds. I mean it's incredible. And we're trying to line up some very special guests. Talk about tomorrow morning. Birchgold.com promo code warm end of the dollar empire. It's all Happening as we said it's going to happen. You need to get ahead of the curve. Gold's what's up now. Close to 3,700. Haven't checked right now. Might have gone through 3,700. May backed off. Who knows? But it's on a roll. It's not the price, it's the process. You need to understand that. That's what we attempt to teach you with Birch, Cole, Philip Patrick and the team. Mike Lindell. Another tough, long, tough day for the war room posse. Slogging it through a 30 front war. Winning on most, being held in check in a couple, maybe losing on a couple of three. They need a special worse.

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Mike. Now, Mike nailed a big victory in Michigan. Huge victory for the electors. Need to have it now. Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada and Arizona. Four more states to go. We got to get with those folks, make sure that they lose their houses or anything like that. I will deal with that tonight. The world's best ally. I. I don't. I don't want Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham. You're going to tell me that again? You're the world's best. Here's what an ally does. They're a protectorate. They're not an ally. They never fought shoulder to shoulder with us anywhere, okay? They get us into messes like in Iran, where they tried to have regime change and lied about it. Netanyahu and his government are destroying not only the state of Israel and going to turn it into a Jewish Pakistan. They are hurting the Jewish community throughout the world and turning the world against the Jewish community, full stop. And anybody that's pitching and promoting and defending Netanyahu, you're only hurting Israel and you're only only hurting the Jewish people on a global basis, full stop. An ally. If you're an ally, like church, you come and run it by the man before you do it. That's what an ally does. You come and run it by the man. The man on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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