Real America’s Voice: War Room with Steve Bannon, Ep. 4768

Date: September 10, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Senator Josh Hawley, Carol Markowitz, Jake Seawolf, Sophia Karstens

Main Theme:

Unfiltered Perspectives on Tech Power, Child Safety, Education, and Political Realignment
This War Room episode features Steve Bannon and guests diving into four major stories: transhumanism and technology elites, a Meta/Facebook child safety scandal, the crisis in American education, and the political battle over California’s redistricting and its national implications. The tone is combative and urgent, focusing on power struggles between regular Americans and elite technocrats, and the risks posed by technology both at home and in broader society.

Key Discussion Points

1. Tech Elites and the Quest for Transhumanism

• Opening Context: Bannon frames a worldview split: "The elites are focused on a whole different set of issues than what impact the American people" (04:45).
• Bannon spotlights Senator Josh Hawley’s recent speech on transhumanism, critiquing Silicon Valley "oligarchs" for their obsession with extending their own lifespans through AI, while ordinary Americans experience declining life expectancy and eroding job prospects.
  • Quote:

    “These guys in Silicon Valley, these oligarchs... They're using AI to shorten the lifespans of working people by taking away their jobs... turning AI into a weapon to help the oligarchs and to hurt the working man.”
    — Senator Josh Hawley (05:57)

• Hawley emphasizes the real-world immediacy, not just sci-fi speculation:
  • Quote:

    “They're spending cumulative billions of dollars on these new wellness regimens. They think that they can extend their lifespan into the far horizon.”
    — Senator Josh Hawley (07:23)

2. Meta/Facebook Hearing: Child Safety and Profits

• Bannon and Hawley dissect Hawley’s Senate hearing with former Facebook researchers, revealing alleged willful negligence at Meta regarding child safety in virtual reality (VR) spaces.

  • Key Exchange (08:20–09:35):

    • Hawley presses on how Meta profits from children’s VR engagement, even in the face of reported sexual abuse and exploitation, notably involving Roblox.
    • Facebook whistleblower Carol Markowitz alleges that Meta ignored research and allowed dangerous apps on their platform.

      “Meta's number one bottom line is money... they will do anything, including exposing our children to the most vile sexual abuse if it means more profits.”
      — Senator Josh Hawley (08:35)

  • Markowitz details discovering pedophile rings exploiting children through Roblox VR, and Meta’s decision to ignore her warnings:

    “I flagged this to Meta... under no circumstances should we host the app Roblox on their headset. You can now download it in their app store.”
    — Carol Markowitz (08:57)

• Hawley calls for legal action:
  • Quote:

    “It is abundantly clear to me that it is time to allow parents and victims to sue this company... That begins with Mark Zuckerberg.”
    — Senator Josh Hawley (09:35)

• The episode claims Meta hid damning evidence and falsified data to the public and investors (11:29).
• Both Bannon and Hawley demand greater accountability and an end to legal protections shielding Big Tech from liability.
  • Quote:

    “Congress needs to change that. Congress needs to end the sweetheart deal and allow Mark Zuckerberg and Meta and all the rest to be sued in court by victims.”
    — Senator Josh Hawley (13:53)

3. Technology’s Role in the Education Crisis

• The show pivots to newly released data showing catastrophic declines in student skills across reading, writing, math, and science.
  • Bannon ties this directly to smartphone and AI proliferation post-2010.
• Hawley blames depersonalization and misplaced tech priorities:
  • Quote:

    “Pretty soon our kids aren’t going to be able to write a thing because AI is going to do it all for them...”
    — Senator Josh Hawley (14:54)

  • He urges returning power to parents and removing Big Tech from classrooms and curricula.

4. Political Realignment and Redistricting Fights

A. California and National Political Stakes

• Bannon and Sophia Karstens dissect California’s ongoing redistricting saga, emphasizing its national implications.
  • Karstens argues California is, by heat-map, a “red state carried blue by three counties.”

    “There’s no such thing as swing states, only swing counties... Los Angeles County is the mother of all swing counties right now.”
    — Sophia Karstens (40:39)

  • She claims that Democratic voters are leaving the party in the wake of wildfires and poor governance, citing fresh Zogby polling.
• Redistricting is described as an existential fight, with Karstens elaborating on legal, constitutional, and demographic hurdles in California.
  • She warns against the Democrats’ “gerrymandering,” and stresses the need for Republicans to unite and resist the “illegitimate disparity” foisted by Democratic control.

    “What you’re creating is a circumstance where the elected officials are choosing their voters instead of the voters choosing their elected officials.” — Sophia Karstens (46:27)

• Bannon stresses urgency, noting California as the “beta test state” for national Democratic maneuvering.
• Discussion touches on the jungle primary, party unity challenges, and the path forward if Republicans hope to recover seats (see 54:22–56:13 segment).

B. Broader Populist Messaging

• The episode repeatedly returns to themes of “power to the people,” railing against elite conspiracy, Big Tech, and corporate abuse of working Americans.

5. UFOs, Distraction, & Geopolitics

• In a brief mid-show segment, Jake Seawolf and Bannon react to new military UFO hearings.
  • Skepticism abounds, with Seawolf suggesting the issue is being used as a distraction from “the powers of money and technology trying to control this country and every person in it” (30:38).
  • The hosts see the media focus as a possible tactic to move attention away from “the administrative state, the deep state, and the beginning phase of World War III” (27:58).

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On AI and Power:

  "They're turning AI into a tool of the rich and powerful to extend their control over this country. We got to stop that. There'll be no jobs left for working people if this goes on."
  — Senator Josh Hawley (07:23)

• On Meta’s Alleged Negligence:

  "They hid it and falsified it, Steve... is there nothing these people won't do in order to make money and get power? And the answer is no. There is nothing, including taking away the innocence of our children."
  — Senator Josh Hawley (11:29)

• On Education Crisis:

  “I don’t want them [Big Tech] running our education. They’re destroying it. I don’t want them running our kids’ health. They’re destroying it. And I sure as heck don’t want them running this country.”
  — Senator Josh Hawley (14:54)

• On Redistricting:

  “California is the battlefield right now. It’s the beta test state... and we got to win this.”
  — Steve Bannon (56:13)

• On Media Distractions:

  "They're always trying to intimidate you and get you to huddle inside and just watch streaming... Since nothing else has worked... this entire UFO thing looks like another sop to the big arms merchants or the space guys..."
  — Steve Bannon (29:36)

Timestamp Guide to Key Segments

• 04:02–05:57: Bannon & Hawley on transhumanism and Silicon Valley's agenda
• 07:03–08:15: The reality and dangers of tech-driven immortality efforts
• 08:20–09:35: Meta, VR abuse, whistleblowing testimony, and calls for legal accountability
• 11:29–12:07: Meta's alleged concealment and data falsification
• 13:03–14:18: Holding Big Tech accountable, Congress’s legislative role
• 14:54–15:38: AI, smartphones, and education decline
• 37:10–43:51: Sophia Karstens on California politics, polling, and redistricting
• 54:22–56:13: Strategy, party unity, and the urgency of the coming election

Overall Tone & Style

• Assertive, urgent, populist: Hosts and guests frame issues as a populist battle against unaccountable power.
• Conspiratorial & combative: Repeated claims of elite, tech, and political class coordination to diminish ordinary Americans’ rights.
• Policy-focused but broad: Moves from tech ethics, to education, to state and national politics in a freewheeling but structured manner.
• Direct speaker attributions, strong personal opinions and grievances

For Listeners Who Missed It:

This episode offers a bracing, highly critical look at how technology, elite interests, and political maneuvering are, in the hosts’ view, corroding American freedoms and values. Senator Josh Hawley stands out as a vocal critic of Big Tech, blasting the consequences for children, labor, and democracy; Sophia Karstens provides insider perspective on the battle over California’s political map and the future of national elections. UFO hearings, meanwhile, are dismissed as a media distraction.

The underlying call to action: listeners must remain vigilant about technological and political overreach, demand accountability for elites, and mobilize ahead of critical state and national elections, with California serving as the testing ground for the next phase of American politics.