Real America’s Voice: War Room with Stephen K. Bannon (Ep. 4796)
Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Mary Holland (Children's Health Defense), Dr. Peter Navarro
Episode Theme:
A fiery deep dive into key battles over vaccine policy, government weaponization, accountability for political persecution, and remembrance of Charlie Kirk’s legacy, all within the broader MAGA movement’s current crossroads.
Overview
This episode of War Room centers on three main axes:
- Impending controversy around vaccine safety reports and government transparency, with a focus on autism, Tylenol, and the wider vaccine regimen.
- The legacy and strategic impact of Charlie Kirk in the MAGA movement, especially after his recent tragic assassination, and how the movement must respond and continue.
- Dr. Peter Navarro’s first-hand account of governmental persecution, his new book, and the call for holding political adversaries “accountable” to ensure a free America.
The tone is combative, urgent, and highly mobilizing, pairing fact-driven advocacy with emotional appeals.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Vaccine Safety, Autism Report, and Tylenol Controversy
(Main segment from 03:30–11:43)
Steve Bannon introduces Mary Holland (Children's Health Defense) for an update on the much-anticipated "autism report" regarding vaccines and recent news leaks alleging a link between Tylenol and autism.
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Mary Holland clarifies:
- The afternoon’s White House event is not the awaited autism-vaccine safety report but is focused on Tylenol's effects, following leaks.
- Tylenol is toxic to babies’ livers, but the scientific consensus in the CHD community is that vaccines, not Tylenol, are the greater concern in the autism epidemic.
- “Vaccines are what needs to be focused on ... this is just kind of a baby step.” (Mary Holland, 05:20)
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Bannon’s deep skepticism:
- Fears this Tylenol focus is a diversion by Big Pharma and government to diffuse the urgent scrutiny on vaccines.
- "If we don't finish what we started here, then the whole thing was like, what are we doing, right?” (Steve Bannon, 06:47)
- Criticizes HHS and media for downplaying or mishandling the narrative; warns the MAGA movement against losing momentum.
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Mary Holland’s response:
- Insists the CHD and Bobby Kennedy are committed to seeing the real data released and will not allow this issue to “fade into memory.”
- “If this is a sideshow, we’re not going to let this go. … The vaccine safety data link ... has not yet been opened up.” (Mary Holland, 09:09)
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Resource Roundup:
- Mary directs listeners to childrenshealthdefense.org and their Twitter/X platform for real-time coverage and data.
- Announces upcoming CHD conference in Austin, Nov. 7–9.
Memorable Quotes:
- "Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." (Bannon, 02:38)
- "One in 31 children are diagnosed with autism, which is simply to say toxic exposure, induced brain injury." (Holland, 05:20)
- "This Tylenol thing stinks to high heaven ... and then you’re never going to see a report. It’s just going to ... fade into memory." (Bannon, 08:29)
2. The Legacy of Charlie Kirk and MAGA Movement Staffing
(Begins 12:05, Core: 14:31–16:28, 39:14–49:27)
Tribute and strategic lessons:
- Jack Posobiec leads a tribute, urging listeners to continue Charlie Kirk’s mission:
- “If you believe in America, stand up. If you believe Charlie Kirk represented the best of us, stand up.” (Jack Posobiec, 12:18)
- Bannon and Navarro stress that Charlie Kirk was instrumental in vetting and placing loyal, ideological staff during Trump’s transition, avoiding “bad personnel who wanted to make bad policies contrary to President Trump’s agenda.” (Navarro, 14:31)
- Navarro: "Personnel is policy... We weren't going to make that mistake again," referencing failings in the first term.
Kirk's assassination contextualized:
- Navarro recounts his last meeting with Kirk, underlining his closeness to Sergio Gore and the critical role they both played.
- "Now Charlie is with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Sergio Gore is heading to India's ambassador. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of the role those two young men played." (Bannon, 16:09)
Call to action:
The call is not to mourn, but to continue Kirk’s work in both “spiritual and secular” spheres.
3. Navarro’s Book & the Weaponization of Government
(Core segment: 21:37–31:57)
Book premise:
Dr. Peter Navarro introduces his new book, I Went to Prison So You Won’t Have To, calling it a blueprint on “the weaponization of our government” and a “wake up call.”
- The book chronicles his arrest, “perp walk,” and details what he calls bipartisan government persecution of Trump allies.
- Highlights the case of FBI agent Walter Giardina, connecting him to high-profile investigations (Crossfire Hurricane, Russia Hoax).
Notable arguments:
- Navarro connects his and others’ prosecution to a grander effort to dismantle the MAGA movement.
- He emphasizes, “If we don’t hold them accountable, they’re going to do it again. … It names names.” (Navarro, 21:37)
Bannon amplifies the warning:
- "If you think they're not coming for you, you are absolutely dead wrong." (Bannon, 28:47)
- Navarro calls for the audience (“posse”) to make the book a bestseller, framing it as a collective act of resistance:
- “When I say hold them accountable, I mean put the son of a bitches in prison.” (Navarro, 31:30)
Book and Contact Information:
- Navarro directs listeners to Amazon.com and his Substack/presence on X (“Real P Navarro”), Getter, and Truth Social.
4. Current Political/Economic Landscape and Calls to Action
(Approx. 39:47–end)
Bannon on government shutdown and spending cuts:
- Predicts a government shutdown, frames it as a necessary test to define essential vs. non-essential service.
- Laments government overreach and spending; calls for either “massive cuts” or new revenues (advocates for tariffs as a solution).
On H1B visas and economic strategy:
- Critiques the Commerce Department’s handling and understanding of the H1B visa program.
- The message: focus on American jobs, manufacturing, resisting “globalists.”
Foreign Policy:
- Rapid summation of the week’s global issues: UN, Israel, Ukraine, China.
- Repeats that Trump “can’t do it all alone,” warning against establishment (both parties) undermining his America First agenda.
Continued remembrances
- Reiterates the critical loss of Charlie Kirk but emphasizes Erica Kirk and others are carrying on his work: “It is a great loss ... But now it’s for we the living to continue his work.” (Bannon, 46:53)
Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments
- “This is the primal scream of a dying regime.” (Bannon, 02:38)
- “One in 31 children are diagnosed with autism … Vaccines are driving [this].” (Holland, 05:20)
- “We have to take this thing apart brick by brick, and we have to do it now.” (Bannon, 28:47)
- “Personnel is policy… We weren't going to make that mistake again.” (Navarro, 14:31)
- "If you don't think they're coming for you, you are absolutely dead wrong." (Bannon, 28:47)
- “I mean put the son of a bitches in prison.” (Navarro, 31:30)
- "If you believe in America, stand up. If you believe Charlie Kirk represented the best of us, stand up." (Posobiec, 12:18)
- “Autism is too serious. One in 31 kids. We’re not letting this go.” (Holland, 11:26)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 03:30 – Start of main show content, Bannon sets context (CDC, autism report, Tylenol, vaccine debate)
- 05:20 – Mary Holland’s key breakdown of the day’s controversy
- 06:47 – Bannon rails against government/Big Pharma diversion tactics
- 09:09 – Holland assures continued CHD advocacy and clarifies data gaps
- 12:05–16:28 – Charlie Kirk tribute, legacy, and the importance of staffing—“personnel is policy”
- 21:37 – Navarro unpacks his imprisonment, launches book, connects to broader weaponization narrative
- 28:47 – Bannon’s urgent rallying cry: “They’re coming for you”
- 31:30 – Navarro: “Put the son of a bitches in prison”—accountability demand
- 39:14–46:53 – Bannon economic/political commentary: spending, shutdown, MAGA priorities
- 46:53–49:27 – Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s legacy and the movement’s future
Resources & Next Actions
- Children’s Health Defense (CHD): childrenshealthdefense.org
- Mary Holland/CHD on X (Twitter): @childrensHD
- Peter Navarro: PeterNavarro.substack.com, Real P Navarro on X, "I Went to Prison So You Won't Have To" on Amazon
Final Notes
The War Room’s core message in this episode is one of rallying MAGA resolve:
- Never let bureaucratic or media narratives dilute the fight for parental choice, governmental transparency, and anti-establishment accountability.
- Hold the political establishment “accountable”—which, per Navarro and Bannon, means severe legal repercussions for perceived abuses of power.
- Mourn and honor Kirk, but double down on vetting, organizing, and fighting.
“It’s left now to we the living to follow. Take Charlie Kirk’s work, his great work, and drive it forward.” (Bannon, 57:25)
This summary covers all major themes and calls to action, highlights major moments and timestamps, and preserves the impassioned, direct language of the hosts.
