THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4796)

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: War Room with Stephen K. Bannon (Ep. 4796)

Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Mary Holland (Children's Health Defense), Dr. Peter Navarro
Episode Theme:
A fiery deep dive into key battles over vaccine policy, government weaponization, accountability for political persecution, and remembrance of Charlie Kirk’s legacy, all within the broader MAGA movement’s current crossroads.

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Overview

This episode of War Room centers on three main axes:

• Impending controversy around vaccine safety reports and government transparency, with a focus on autism, Tylenol, and the wider vaccine regimen.
• The legacy and strategic impact of Charlie Kirk in the MAGA movement, especially after his recent tragic assassination, and how the movement must respond and continue.
• Dr. Peter Navarro’s first-hand account of governmental persecution, his new book, and the call for holding political adversaries “accountable” to ensure a free America.

The tone is combative, urgent, and highly mobilizing, pairing fact-driven advocacy with emotional appeals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vaccine Safety, Autism Report, and Tylenol Controversy

(Main segment from 03:30–11:43)

Steve Bannon introduces Mary Holland (Children's Health Defense) for an update on the much-anticipated "autism report" regarding vaccines and recent news leaks alleging a link between Tylenol and autism.

• Mary Holland clarifies:

  • The afternoon’s White House event is not the awaited autism-vaccine safety report but is focused on Tylenol's effects, following leaks.
  • Tylenol is toxic to babies’ livers, but the scientific consensus in the CHD community is that vaccines, not Tylenol, are the greater concern in the autism epidemic.
  • “Vaccines are what needs to be focused on ... this is just kind of a baby step.” (Mary Holland, 05:20)

• Bannon’s deep skepticism:

  • Fears this Tylenol focus is a diversion by Big Pharma and government to diffuse the urgent scrutiny on vaccines.
  • "If we don't finish what we started here, then the whole thing was like, what are we doing, right?” (Steve Bannon, 06:47)
  • Criticizes HHS and media for downplaying or mishandling the narrative; warns the MAGA movement against losing momentum.

• Mary Holland’s response:

  • Insists the CHD and Bobby Kennedy are committed to seeing the real data released and will not allow this issue to “fade into memory.”
  • “If this is a sideshow, we’re not going to let this go. … The vaccine safety data link ... has not yet been opened up.” (Mary Holland, 09:09)

• Resource Roundup:

  • Mary directs listeners to childrenshealthdefense.org and their Twitter/X platform for real-time coverage and data.
  • Announces upcoming CHD conference in Austin, Nov. 7–9.

Memorable Quotes:

• "Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." (Bannon, 02:38)
• "One in 31 children are diagnosed with autism, which is simply to say toxic exposure, induced brain injury." (Holland, 05:20)
• "This Tylenol thing stinks to high heaven ... and then you’re never going to see a report. It’s just going to ... fade into memory." (Bannon, 08:29)

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2. The Legacy of Charlie Kirk and MAGA Movement Staffing

(Begins 12:05, Core: 14:31–16:28, 39:14–49:27)

Tribute and strategic lessons:

• Jack Posobiec leads a tribute, urging listeners to continue Charlie Kirk’s mission:
  • “If you believe in America, stand up. If you believe Charlie Kirk represented the best of us, stand up.” (Jack Posobiec, 12:18)
  • Bannon and Navarro stress that Charlie Kirk was instrumental in vetting and placing loyal, ideological staff during Trump’s transition, avoiding “bad personnel who wanted to make bad policies contrary to President Trump’s agenda.” (Navarro, 14:31)
  • Navarro: "Personnel is policy... We weren't going to make that mistake again," referencing failings in the first term.

Kirk's assassination contextualized:

• Navarro recounts his last meeting with Kirk, underlining his closeness to Sergio Gore and the critical role they both played.
• "Now Charlie is with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Sergio Gore is heading to India's ambassador. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of the role those two young men played." (Bannon, 16:09)

Call to action:
The call is not to mourn, but to continue Kirk’s work in both “spiritual and secular” spheres.

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3. Navarro’s Book & the Weaponization of Government

(Core segment: 21:37–31:57)

Book premise:
Dr. Peter Navarro introduces his new book, I Went to Prison So You Won’t Have To, calling it a blueprint on “the weaponization of our government” and a “wake up call.”

• The book chronicles his arrest, “perp walk,” and details what he calls bipartisan government persecution of Trump allies.
• Highlights the case of FBI agent Walter Giardina, connecting him to high-profile investigations (Crossfire Hurricane, Russia Hoax).

Notable arguments:

• Navarro connects his and others’ prosecution to a grander effort to dismantle the MAGA movement.
• He emphasizes, “If we don’t hold them accountable, they’re going to do it again. … It names names.” (Navarro, 21:37)

Bannon amplifies the warning:

• "If you think they're not coming for you, you are absolutely dead wrong." (Bannon, 28:47)
• Navarro calls for the audience (“posse”) to make the book a bestseller, framing it as a collective act of resistance:
  • “When I say hold them accountable, I mean put the son of a bitches in prison.” (Navarro, 31:30)

Book and Contact Information:

• Navarro directs listeners to Amazon.com and his Substack/presence on X (“Real P Navarro”), Getter, and Truth Social.

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4. Current Political/Economic Landscape and Calls to Action

(Approx. 39:47–end)

Bannon on government shutdown and spending cuts:

• Predicts a government shutdown, frames it as a necessary test to define essential vs. non-essential service.
• Laments government overreach and spending; calls for either “massive cuts” or new revenues (advocates for tariffs as a solution).

On H1B visas and economic strategy:

• Critiques the Commerce Department’s handling and understanding of the H1B visa program.
• The message: focus on American jobs, manufacturing, resisting “globalists.”

Foreign Policy:

• Rapid summation of the week’s global issues: UN, Israel, Ukraine, China.
• Repeats that Trump “can’t do it all alone,” warning against establishment (both parties) undermining his America First agenda.

Continued remembrances

• Reiterates the critical loss of Charlie Kirk but emphasizes Erica Kirk and others are carrying on his work: “It is a great loss ... But now it’s for we the living to continue his work.” (Bannon, 46:53)

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• “This is the primal scream of a dying regime.” (Bannon, 02:38)
• “One in 31 children are diagnosed with autism … Vaccines are driving [this].” (Holland, 05:20)
• “We have to take this thing apart brick by brick, and we have to do it now.” (Bannon, 28:47)
• “Personnel is policy… We weren't going to make that mistake again.” (Navarro, 14:31)
• "If you don't think they're coming for you, you are absolutely dead wrong." (Bannon, 28:47)
• “I mean put the son of a bitches in prison.” (Navarro, 31:30)
• "If you believe in America, stand up. If you believe Charlie Kirk represented the best of us, stand up." (Posobiec, 12:18)
• “Autism is too serious. One in 31 kids. We’re not letting this go.” (Holland, 11:26)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:30 – Start of main show content, Bannon sets context (CDC, autism report, Tylenol, vaccine debate)
• 05:20 – Mary Holland’s key breakdown of the day’s controversy
• 06:47 – Bannon rails against government/Big Pharma diversion tactics
• 09:09 – Holland assures continued CHD advocacy and clarifies data gaps
• 12:05–16:28 – Charlie Kirk tribute, legacy, and the importance of staffing—“personnel is policy”
• 21:37 – Navarro unpacks his imprisonment, launches book, connects to broader weaponization narrative
• 28:47 – Bannon’s urgent rallying cry: “They’re coming for you”
• 31:30 – Navarro: “Put the son of a bitches in prison”—accountability demand
• 39:14–46:53 – Bannon economic/political commentary: spending, shutdown, MAGA priorities
• 46:53–49:27 – Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s legacy and the movement’s future

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Resources & Next Actions

• Children’s Health Defense (CHD): childrenshealthdefense.org
• Mary Holland/CHD on X (Twitter): @childrensHD
• Peter Navarro: PeterNavarro.substack.com, Real P Navarro on X, "I Went to Prison So You Won't Have To" on Amazon

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Final Notes

The War Room’s core message in this episode is one of rallying MAGA resolve:

• Never let bureaucratic or media narratives dilute the fight for parental choice, governmental transparency, and anti-establishment accountability.
• Hold the political establishment “accountable”—which, per Navarro and Bannon, means severe legal repercussions for perceived abuses of power.
• Mourn and honor Kirk, but double down on vetting, organizing, and fighting.

“It’s left now to we the living to follow. Take Charlie Kirk’s work, his great work, and drive it forward.” (Bannon, 57:25)

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This summary covers all major themes and calls to action, highlights major moments and timestamps, and preserves the impassioned, direct language of the hosts.

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[Steve Bannon]

Monday, the 22nd of September in the year of our Lord 2025. Welcome back to the War Room. Dr. Peter Navarre is going to join us momentarily or we're going to reconnect with him momentarily. MARY holland's we're slipping in Mary Holland because MARY I thought, okay, so keep it simple for me, Mary because we this is been a big day that's coming on the 28th of September. I thought maybe I'm wrong. I thought we had committed or there was a commitment by the end of the month, but the date had basically been picked as 28 September, the autism report. And what I mean by that, this is what Rand Paul was talking about in his grilling of officials the other day about the cdc, the doctor of the CDC that got let go by the president, that this whole thing about the regimen of vaccines for babies right in the report that people have been working on for a long time was going to come out on the 28th and that dealt with the vaccine regimen and what had to go into, I think 60 or 70 vaccines now into babies, as you keep referring to the $1.5 trillion industry that is now set all against this we've have today. And then it kind of came out over the weekend. There's going to be an event this afternoon, I think at four o'. Clock. Right. I believe that's at the White House also. I think especially this morning it's been bumped till four in all the media leading up to it, it appears to be a leak about Tylenol and pregnancies and autism. Just help me out here this afternoon. Are we going to get the autism report? That is really the thing that people have been focused on. Is that going to come on the 28th? Is it going to come sometime later? And what is this today we're going to see? And why is Tylenol even an issue here, ma'? Am.

[Mary Holland]

So we first learned about this announcement on Friday, President Trump mentioned it in the press conference that you covered, Steve. And then he mentioned it again yesterday in his remarks at the event for. In honor of Charlie Kirk. I wasn't expecting this. I do know that the leak suggests this is focused on Tylenol. Tylenol is toxic to the liver and babies can't metabolize it. But this is not the autism report. I pray we'll get the autism report by the end of the month. Bobby Kennedy, as secretary, said we would get that in an April announcement. One in 31 children are diagnosed with autism, which is simply to say toxic exposure, induced brain injury. I don't know that he's going to talk about other factors. We know that Tylenol is not what's driving this epidemic. Steve, vaccines are driving. 88% of cases of autism are plausibly regressive. In other words, a toddler or a baby has some kind of environmental exposure and they tank. And we know that vaccines have aluminum, they have Mercury, they have polysorbate 80, they have all kinds of things, formaldehyde, that they cannot metabolize, they cannot detox. Vaccines are what needs to be focused on. I don't know that that's the focus of what's going to happen today. But this is not over. This is just kind of a baby step, sort of. We saw at the advisory committee.

[Steve Bannon]

Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? Because, hey, you know, the way Washington works, you toss out something and Big pharma, then all the media says, okay, it's over. That's what they did. Boom. And then we lose momentum on the big enchilada. If we don't, if we don't finish what we started here, then the whole thing was like, what are we doing right? Particularly put forth the data. I'm not even saying in the banning. I want to just get the official data out so we can adjudicate this in the public. And, and MSNBC can't say, the Children's Health Defense, a bunch of wing nuts. It's a cult around Bobby Kennedy. And, and we can. This is why, and I'll be honest with you, I think hhs, and I'll be blunt, Stephanie Spear and the entire crowd over there, I think they've done a horrific job of putting forward the evidence that's overwhelming about this topic. And I'm just concerned that, you know, and this looks. There's no tougher group of hombres than Big Pharma. This is a cash cow. It's a cash machine. And they're just not going to sit there and go, oh, Mary Holland and Bobby Kennedy and in the war room and a bunch of harpies over at the Children's Health Defense, they're going to genuflect at that. They're going to bend to that. That ain't going to happen. They're coming at this as hard. You're going to see the hardest of the hardball played in Washington. So tell me, make me feel better because the process to date has not been great. I'll be honest. The CDC thing on the vaccine, it was. And not just that, I gotta. But hang on for Dr. Malone, they literally lifted. They lifted from this audience and Naomi Wolf, basically the research that this audience did under Naomi Wolf and Amy Kelly at the CDC thing and then did it on card tables like it's some kind of sideshow. That's not the way to do it. It's not the way to do it. It's just not the way to do it. If you're going to be serious about this and HHS has not proven to us in the war room that they are serious about actually laying out the data in a super professional way and in a Washington D.C. kind of big way with scale because it's all minor league baseball. And I got to tell you, this Tylenol thing stinks to high heaven. Not the fact that Tylenol causes it, but to do it today and then you're never going to see a report. It's just going to kind of fade into memory. Make me feel better. Mary Holland.

[Mary Holland]

I don't believe that, Steve. We're going to see a report. And Bobby Kennedy, whom I've worked with for many years, is really about data. He really is about science. And they haven't gotten all the data they need. I believe the data is going to show overwhelmingly that vaccines are the driver for vaccine induced autism, vaccine induced brain injury. But I agree with you, today may be something of a sideshow. Tylenol is not the primary cause. Vaccines are the primary cause. We know that from lots of different sources of information and we cannot let this go. And let me assure you, CHT is about ending the epidemics of chronic disease as Bobby Kennedy is. And if this is a sideshow, we're not going to let this go. We're going to keep pushing that. We have to keep going until we get the real data. The vaccine safety data link is the repository of information and that has not yet been opened up.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, fine. Hopefully I will be able to coerce you into joining us after Four o'. Clock. Real America's voice will cover it live. Obviously we'll have analysis of it in the five to seven hour live on on War Room because this is all important. It's one of the, this is what the Maha and the MAGA movement have worked together on. And we're at a critical juncture in the enemies of this data, the enemies of the truth in this regard are legion. And they're, they all, they play a smash mouth. They don't know any other way. They've got a $1.5 trillion cash count and they ain't going to give it up. Mary Holland, where do people go to get all the backup information we need for today? Right. And then we'll hopefully see you or.

[Mary Holland]

One of your colleagues this evening at childrenshd on x. At childrenshd on x childrenshealthdefense.org tons of information there and we put out a free newsletter, Defender. We are on top of this. We'll be covering it today as well.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you Mary.

[Mary Holland]

And our conference, Steve, that we hope you'll be at November 7 and 9, Austin, Texas.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm going to do this. Give it again. Where do people go to get access to the conference?

[Mary Holland]

Come to our website, childrenshealthdefense.org we would love to see you there. We're going to have phenomenal speakers including Steve, but we're having a lot of phenomenal speakers and it's a chance to be together and strengthen this community that is making a difference. We're not going to let this go, Steve. Autism is too serious. One in 31 kids. We're not letting this go.

[Steve Bannon]

No. The epidemic is unbelievable. Your guys work has been unbelievable. Let's just strap in for a big fight. Thank you Mary. Appreciate you.

[Mary Holland]

Thanks Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, 4 o' clock today, real America's Voice. We're going to cover this all live. Their conference. We're going to do a ton of media around that the show, all of it November 7th to 9th. Let's go. I've got a cold open for Dr. Peter Navarro. Let's go and play it today. I want to ask every person in this arena and the millions more watching.

[Jack Posobiec]

Around the world, will you make sure.

[Steve Bannon]

That we continue to build upon what Charlie Kirk started?

[Jack Posobiec]

I want to ask each and every.

[Steve Bannon]

One of you today if you believe in America, stand up. If you believe Charlie Kirk represented the.

[Jack Posobiec]

Best of us, stand up. If you believe in the power of.

[Steve Bannon]

Charlie Kirk, his mission, his courage, his conviction.

[Jack Posobiec]

Stand up.

[Steve Bannon]

Charlie, we miss you. We love you. We Wish you were here with us today. We will never forget you. Rest in peace, my brother, Sergio Gore, right there, not particularly well known to the public, but was a grundoon. He and Stephen Miller were two grundoons on the staff of Michele Bachman when I met them, I don't know, a decade ago. Oh, in the summer of, when was it? The spring of 2010, when I made a film about Michele Bachman and Phyllis Schlafly and other women of the Tea Party movement called Fire from the Heartland. And he was the comms director at the time. Now he's the head of White House personnel. Peter, the reason I played that people don't realize, I think enough the role that Charlie Kirk played on the transition. I mean, Peter Navarro knows this better than anyone, because Peter Navarro has been with President Trump since, I think, 20, early 2016, late 2015, early 2016. But President Trump and Jared were obviously familiar with your work before then, about China and about manufacturing. But you know better than anybody how important it is to get MAGA type people, people that think in the MAGA philosophy into the White House, into the agencies. And Sergio Gore, Charlie on transition and Charlie in the in, up until a week ago, was absolutely essential. Working with Sergio is just an outside advisor on vetting people and make sure we got the right people in there. And you saw it every day. I know it's been one of your big things that you've always said, hey, you got to get the right people in these slots. Your thoughts, sir?

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Steve, the last time Bonnie and I saw Charlie, it was just a week or so before he was brutally assassinated. Where did we see him? Right in Sergio Gore's office on the second floor of the West Wing. And Sergio and Charlie were joined at the hip. But when the president won the election and we go into that period known as the transition, that's where the dictum, personnel as policy really comes into play with a vengeance. Because in the first term, in 45, we did a horrible job. Let's just say what it was. We got bad personnel who wanted to make bad policies contrary to President Trump's agenda. Mattis, Tillerson, Mnuchin, Cohn. I mean, just a whole list of bad guys. We weren't going to make that mistake again. And President Trump entrusted two people, not one, but two, to make sure that we did it right this time. One of them was Sergio Gore, the director personnel. But the other was Charlie Kirk. And when you said I had to smile a little bit when you said Charlie on the outside, well, Charlie was on the inside as well as the outside. And that's how last time it was just natural going in. Hey, Charlie, what's up, brother? And now that that's not happening, I think it hit Sergio hard. But, but he, he rose to the occasion like so many of the speakers did yesterday. Sir. And they got it done.

[Steve Bannon]

Yep. We're gonna take a short commercial break or I go with Charlie's pipes. This issue of the right people, we, we built up a bench over that time with the, with Project 2025 and CRA and Stephen Miller's. You've got a bench and you got policies. It was important to get him in there. And Charlie Kirk was a warrior on the pressure with Sergio Gore. Now Charlie is with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Sergio Gore is heading to India's ambassador. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of the role that those two young men played in making sure that President Trump got the exact right people. MAGA people, people that are loyal are tough and determined to execute on his policies. Short Break the book I Went to Prison so youo don't have to the Meaning and Purpose of it. Next with Dr. Peter Navarre.

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So Dr. Navarro, in this inflection point, Obama says it, Bannon says it. So many people. We're in an inflection point. Right now in American history, we're going to go one way or the other. Why now is it important for this audience to get your book, to read it, to think about it and to share it with people? Sir.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Steve I went to prison so you won't have to is a tale about the weaponization of our government, bipartisan interests. And I was thinking about your cold open. And when you say we're going medieval on them, I don't know if it's time to go medieval on them, but it's damn old time to go Old Testament on them. And I went to prison so you won't have to. His Old Testament style calling for accountability. I called it the sixth stage of grief. We're going to have to go through with Charlie Kirk accountability. And what I went to prison so you won't have to is about is a long journey. I took you took it with me on separate tracks. Defense of the Constitution, defense of executive privilege under attack, purely bipartisan interests. Everybody who put you and I in prison, Steve, was a Democrat, from the Congress itself to those who were at the justice system, to the jury, even to the appeals court. And the punch line of I went to prison so you won't have to is simply that if we don't hold them accountable, they're going to do it again. And just who the them are. See, that's the beauty of I went to prison so you won't have to. It names. Names. I mean, if you start with who put me, for example, into prison. It started with an arrest at Reagan Airport of me and my fiance, Bonnie. I call her Pixie in the book. She writes many of the chapters. It's in diary form. And the guy who was responsible for five armed FBI agents inside the gangway taking me down, perp walking her, putting me in handcuffs, putting me in leg irons, putting me in John Hinckley's cell. There's a funny chapter called the ghost of John Hinckley. You can read that in the book. Walter Giardina. And what's interesting about my case is it's a microcosm of everything they did to everybody else that are near and dear to you and me, Steve, whether it's you going to prison, Rudy going bankrupt, John Eastman, Jeff Clark losing their law licenses, forked attempts on Donald Trump to put him in prison, two assassination attempts. And now, of course, the awful, brutal, brutal assassination. Charlie Kirk. I mean, the them are those who are in power who will use whatever powers they have to do that to us. And what I'm calling For in I went to prison so you won't have to is for the book to be a wake up call, Steve, a wake up call. That if they can do that to us the way they're doing it, bank from bankruptcy in prison to a horrible assassination, then if we don't hold them accountable for that, they're going to do it again in 2026 if the Democrats get back control of the House. You know damn well exactly what they're going to do because we know what they did before. It's going to be impeachment. Impeachment, impeachment. There's going to be Russia hoax. Russia hoax, Russia hoax. And the beauty of I went to prison so you won't have to is this guy, Walter Giadina. He's the thing, the thread that's woven through the whole plot against Donald Trump and the rest of us. Because it was Giardino who not only put me in leg irons, he was the guy, Steve, who allegedly, according to FBI whistleblowers, green lit the steel dust, the fake Clinton document which got the whole Russia hoax going and begat crossfire hurricane. That's the guy who put me in prison. He was also responsible for other operations. He was on the Mueller report for eight years. Steve, you and I have watched Democrats in power try to overthrow the government.

[Steve Bannon]

But Donald Trump or interfere with. Yeah, but Trump. But, but Trump, finally. He must have read your book the president because finally on Friday had enough of it or is it Saturday? He put out hey Pam, love you baby. But nothing happening on this stuff. And he made it. It was Halligan. He made a decision. He got rid of the guy in Eastern or they got rid of the guy in Eastern District and put Mary Halligan in there. And he literally went through chapter and verse, kind of the guy's talking about here's I just want to make sure everybody understands something. Peter Navarro was the senior adviser to President Trump and one of the central reasons his philosophy and understanding of China is one of the reasons President Trump won in 16. He then was in the government. And this brother fought every day for the American worker every day and for this country against the Gary Cohn's and the Mnuchins and all the globalists. Every day Peter Navarro is in the cockpit fighting. What is his reward for that? What is his reward for that? In Reagan National Airport, one of the most crowded of so many prominent people going around, they drag him and his girlfriend or his fiance. Now they drag him off a plane about the board, right. Knowing they could have done anything Gone to his lawyer, anything. Dragged him off on the, on the causeway. Shackled him like a murderer, by the way, something they didn't do to the kid in Utah. He was never shackled coming in and then put him in leg iron. So he went, crossed away to humiliate him and to show you what's in store for you, big guy, and all the people around you. If you're going to defy us, the guy that did that should be in prison. Now. This is why the book's going to infuriate you, and this is why you need to read it and think about it, because they're coming for you. The point of Navarro's book ain't about him and not about Bonnie. Peter Navarro's tough enough. Steve Bannon's tough enough. We can go back to prison. Trust me, we'll be fine. It's you. And if you don't think they're coming for you, you are absolutely dead wrong. And 26 or 28. And that's why it has to be a not you say, I understand that you're in the White House. You need to do that. I'm for much more than accountability. We have to take this thing apart brick by brick, and we have to do it now. And finally, President Trump, God bless him, and had a belly full of it. All the excuses, all the tapping along, which I've been saying, getting tapped along and boom, drop the hammer and say, hey, look, I love you, but hey, these guys are still walking the face of the earth.

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And I'm going to start putting some people in there if you don't. So get on the program and get on the program now. Trump's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. Somebody's got to step up and do what I gave. Why did I, at the Student Action Summit in July in Tampa, talk about this very topic? It has to happen now, now, now for the president, for the country and for you, this audience. Peter Navarro. We're going to spend an hour tomorrow and we're going to, I'm going to play the book talk the C span. But ours will be a little more, you know, it'll be, let's say this will be more exciting. I'll get worked up for an hour, six o' clock tomorrow night on. On War Room. Where do people get the books or. And where do we find out? Our launch in. In New York was cancer because of Charlie. But we're going to redo something in New York or D.C. or something. We'll get organized in that but where do people go today to order this incredible book?

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

See, yeah, I want to put out the bat signal to posse. Posse, I need you right now. Right now. Go to Amazon.com buy I went to prison so you won't have to because it is our wake up call. It's what we have to explain to the American people that if we don't hold them accountable they're going to go after us again. I went to prison so you won't have to. Pretty simple. Amazon. I know the power of the war room and what I'd like you to do when you go to Amazon, go there and look at what the rank is right now. That's part of like the page, right? And then buy the book and then in about, I don't know, eight hours because it takes a little bit bit of time, go back and look at that and if that thing's not down to the top 10 books then the posse is sleeping too much and they need to get out and help out because this book isn't about me. Steve said this. It's not about the woman I love so dearly who they perp walked and treated so fairly. It's about you. It's about this country. It's about holding these people accountable. And Steve, just to be clear so you don't think I'm going soft on you when I say hold them accountable, I mean it's put the son of a bitches in prison. If the evidence is there to support what you and I know to be our allegations which appear to be 100% true and we know who needs to start going to prison. We know, I mean it's everybody who.

[Steve Bannon]

Was involved with the weight the weight.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Of the world and going after you and I and everybody else on our side. Every one of them.

[Steve Bannon]

Hey the way the way the world, the way the world on his shoulders he finally had a belly full of it said hey look, you're not going to read my inner office memo so I'll put it on truth social. Note to self take what does he put at the end? Appreciate the attention to this matter. Peter Navarro where social media where do people get you sir?

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Peter navarro.substack.com Real P Navarro on X Can I when I say that but you know it's out there. I'm a getter and on true social but today posse just Amazon I went to prison so you won't have to a love and law fair sir. I buried the leads to you. How did we get through the segment here without mentioning this great guy named Steve Bannon wrote the forward to I went to prison so you won't have to buy the book just to read his forward.

[Steve Bannon]

Tomorrow night at 6 here on the War Room, our 6 o' clock show. Dr. Navarro and I spent an hour going through the book. Thank you brother. Thank you for making this happen today. Short break. Back in a moment.

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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Steve Bannon]

We will achieve American greatness and we.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Are just getting started.

[Jack Posobiec]

They say our reputation.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Needs a new.

[Jack Posobiec]

Coat of paint and a delicate melody But I say I like the bruises Cause the melody don't mean a thing we don't have the strength to the.

[Mary Holland]

Evildoers have no idea what they have done. The cries of this widow will echo like a battle cry.

[Jack Posobiec]

I got American parts I got American we're not going.

[Steve Bannon]

To tolerate this stuff anymore.

[Jack Posobiec]

In America's heart Go on, raise the flag I got stars in my eyes I'm in love with her and I won't apologize they say that we need changing as if all the founding fathers seem to get it wrong who would I say say that I still believe in the greatest innovator liberator, cultivator freedom.

[Steve Bannon]

Know.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I suggest you take a look inside man I think you change changed already you went and lost your pride But I'm American made I got American parts I got American faith.

[Steve Bannon]

In.

[Jack Posobiec]

America's heart Go on, raise the flag I got stars in my eyes I'm in love with her and I won't apologize Dress her up so you don't recognize her she still be there if you wake up in the night.

[Steve Bannon]

Because.

[Jack Posobiec]

A mother can always find her child even when that child don't know he's lost. I'm American American made Got American parts Got American faith in America's heart Go on, raise the flag I got stars in my eyes I'm in love with.

[Steve Bannon]

Her.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I won't no I won't apologize I'm in love with her and I won't apologize I'm in love with her and I won Apollo just.

[Steve Bannon]

That'S the great John Kahn, of course. One of my favorite songs, the anthem of the Tea Party, American Heart slowed it down, different tempo. And of course, Dan Fluitt, my producer and the the author of the great photographic book Rebels, Rogues and Outlaws with the real America's voice. The team cut that. We'll be playing that on a continual basis. Just absolutely fantastic tribute to Charlie Kirk on the day after when we talk about Quo Vadis at noon. We're going to toss to we're going to toss to the Charlie Kirk Show. I think they got Nick Sorter is in today with Andrew Colvett on the show. I think Jack Bosobik is also going to join him, some others. So it'll be on fire as it normally is when we toss over there. It continues on. And that's his Charlie's work continues on. And you can see, I think from Erica Kirk, you have an extraordinary young woman now in charge and a true partner of Charlie Kirk. So the work continues and finished what he started. I want to emphasize again as we go through everything and look at the cr, I believe you're going to have a government shutdown now. And maybe this is the best thing to find out essential versus non essential workers. But no way. The Democrats are not working with President Trump. And the city, the town's gone. The Jewish holidays are this week. I don't think the House is back to October 1st. Well, the government runs out of money. It stroke a midnight on the 30th. Of course, I'm very interested to report what exactly the total deficit's going to be for the years. For this year, I said it was $2 trillion because we're working off Biden and Pelosi numbers. I might also add with this whole thing about the, you know, President Trump spent two minutes with Elmo yesterday. We're in this situation. For all the Elmo fans out there, where are the cuts? Where, where's all this fraud we found? Because in fiscal year 25, I'm just talking about cash money, we're going to have a $1.9 trillion deficit. There was the cuts came from the actual cuts came from Russ Vogt and his team over at omb. And there I think you're talking about a total, I don't know, 14, $15 billion. Got to get it sorted. But next year, you know, a CR means we're still working off of Biden, Pelosi numbers, I'm pretty sure. But if you got to go essential, non essential, let's do it. Tough decisions are going to have to be made or the time for easy decisions. Decades and backwards political classes kick the can down the road, fought Trump and people said, well, the populist movement wants more spending. No, the populist movement wants to be free from this overbearing government that's in their lives in every aspect and bankrupting them and impoverishing their children because government spending, this massive Keynesian experiment we're trying right now is not working. It's not working. This is why I was a huge advocate during the reconciliation that you got to raise taxes for the, for the wealthy. You're going to come to that conclusion. Very little do we put on the war room. Eventually doesn't happen. Pretty good about understanding process. It's going to have to happen. You're going to have to find. So you got two ways to do this, folks. Either cut spending massively or you got to get revenues from other places. Now the President TRUMP Is 1,000% correct or what? Peter Navarro argued for years that the tariff revenues are going to be extraordinary. And they are so far. I mean it's kind of mind blowing. Scott Besson talks about $4 trillion over the 10 year budget cycle, which is about 400 billion a year. You take the 10 years, nobody counted on that. And Apple came out on Friday and said there's been no impact at all on the tariffs in the. And I think it's the iPhone 17. As much as they argue about that, you notice they're not on that every single second of the day. That how tariffs are going to explode consumer prices and make consumers impoverished consumers. No, what's impoverishing consumers is, is the, is giving jobs, giving jobs to foreigners instead of American citizens. I'm going to break down hopefully this afternoon, maybe in the 6:00 clock hour, if not tomorrow, the H1B. It's, you know, just simple advice to the Secretary of Commerce. It's a scam. Let's just shut it down. It's within your power to go back to the President and take that proclamation you got that lays out all the, in the first part of the proclamation, you, you make the case to shut it down and then you don't shut it down. And what I'm going to do, because we have, we've been so, you know, focused on, on Charlie's situation and the great speeches yesterday that haven't had a chance to cut it. The Commerce Secretary who is kind of in charge of this area in his description said, and this is why I said at the time, he's, he said it's $100,000 per year for the. I think he was talking $600,000 coming up on HP and I said that's impossible. If you got to do that, you got to shut the program down because that makes it so economically unfeasible. And of course later Caroline Levitt had to come out and confirm, oh no, it's just $100,000 up front. Which I said had to be the Case. Well, the Secretary of Commerce. And then he said it was for renewables, it's not for renewals. Carolyn Levitt had come up correct. Yo, dude, you're the Secretary of Commerce. These are not tiny details in the document. These are not in the footnotes. This is the deal. You're supposed to be a deal guy. You got to understand the own deal that you put before the President. I'm not sure if that. All I'm saying is the Secretary of Commerce sat up there and gave not just erroneous information, patently false information, that during the show, in a hot take, I can sit there, go, that makes no sense. Because if that's true, then, hey, we kind of won the whole program. Just shut the program down. Then you found out it's not for renewables. It doesn't cover the 500,000 foreign students that are here. That other, the other way. They gotta feed them through here, right? And it doesn't cover. And it's not $100,000 a year. Oh, but besides those, that's the heart of the deal. When you make a deal, it says, hey, this is the basic architecture. These are the key points. Those are the key points. They didn't even know them. Either didn't understand it or patently lied about it. You pick them. I'll play the. We'll get it cut this afternoon so you can see it. Don't take it from me. See it with your own lying eyes. So if that's the Secretary of Commerce, what information is the President of the United States? Again, Trump's got the weight of the world on his shows now. You got the UN this week, they're trying to, you know, make a two state solution. Israel says not going to happen. You got that. You got the Ukraine situation. You know, President Trump keeps going ham very disappointed in Russia. I think. I think Putin ought to take a warning there. And what we don't want to do is get sucked into even a broader, more expanded Third World War. And of course, there's some people pushing and shoving over there. You can see this is some of the drone activity. Then you got the situation in Latin America. You've got the situation of the Chinese Communist Party, President Trump and the TikTok situation, everything then this. And he has to give Pam a wake up call. Hey, I keep seeing Brennan on TV and Comey on TV talking smack. What are we doing here? Maybe you need to staff up some people. Boy, I don't know where we heard that before. Thank you. War room. The president can't do it. By himself. He cannot do it by himself. He's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. The weight of the world on his shoulders, you know, trying to turn the economy around, trying to give a supply side tax a last shot. So we talk about production capital, bringing jobs back, manufacturing jobs, he can't do it all. And one of the great hidden losses of Charlie Kirk is as a vetting, knowing the people, knowing really what's MAGA and what's phony maga. Charlie was Sergio's kind of right hand man of that. And they did a magnificent job at the beginning of the transition. It was a disaster because you had a lot of guys like Lutnick had all these great people from Wall street. They're all Democrats, all gave to Kamala Harris. That's exactly what you don't need. And we still got too many of them. But Charlie working with Sergio and that's why he was back there so much, particularly in the first six months of the administration getting ready for the college tour, he got more focus on that. But man, he was every day there in Mar a Lago and then later. And it is a great loss to this nation as everything he did is a great loss to this nation. But now it's for we the living to continue his work. And when I say his work, both the spiritual and the secular, which in Charlie Kirk's world was inextricably linked and that's why 100 million people turned in to view it yesterday. Short commercial break Back in a moment.

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[Steve Bannon]

You've been Mike Lindell busiest guy around outside of President Trump. Yeah. I do want to thank real America's voice yesterday, of course, Turning Point. To be able to put that together in a couple of days, monumental. The scale of that was incredible. And the flow of it. It's one thing to get scale right, it's another thing to get flow right. Flowed so perfectly. And we'll make sure real America's voice played again, I think, on the loop last night. We'll maybe set aside and do it again sometime this week. It's just I think great with the music and the witness that people had and the revival spirit and the government officials. Powerful. Don Jr. Powerful. The president of states fiery. Well, maybe talk about some of his comments in the afternoon show too, particularly about the situation of forgiveness and President Trump's interpretation of that. It's quo Vadis, whither thou goest. It's left now to we the living to follow. Take Charlie Kirk's work, his great work and drive it forward. We're going to pitch, as we always do at 12 noon Eastern Daylight Time to the Charlie Kirk Show. Sitting in today will be the great Benny Johnson and Andrew Colvette, the co host. Maybe they add a couple of three people during the show, I don't know, but it'll be on fire. Post those after that. Great. Steve Gruber and I want to thank Steve for coming out to Arizona and doing the show. Steve will be at 2 or 3 right after POSO and then Eric Bolling and hopefully we'll get to our show organized enough to do do a handoff to us, although they may do the signing at 4 o'. Clock. Anyway, we're going to be jam packed this afternoon. We're honored, as we always do, to end with the right stuff and to toss it to folks that have the right stuff. Charlie Kirk embodied that and his organization embodies that. The young men and women that pulled that off, both the Kennedy center and what they pulled off last Sunday. Extraordinary. We'll toss now to Andrew Corvette, the co host of the Charlie Kirk show and the great Benny Johnson. If you haven't seen Benny's Witness yesterday, extraordinary. And that's why we put a short highlight in that cold open, which I want to thank my team. A monumental cold open. We'll make sure it gets out. Everybody can see it again. We will be back at 5pm Eastern Daylight Time when you will be back in the war room. The Charlie Kirk show is next.

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