THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4839)

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Real America’s Voice – THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4839)
Date: October 9, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Main Guests: Dave Bossie (Daily Caller, GOP strategist), Matt Boyle (Breitbart National Political Editor), Mike Lindell (MyPillow founder)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of The War Room, Steve Bannon and guests deliver fiery commentary on critical issues ahead of a "historic" White House Cabinet meeting. The episode dives deeply into redistricting battles, Trump’s recent diplomatic and trade wins, the ongoing government shutdown, economic instability in the US and Europe, and the leftward political shift in major American cities. The show maintains its usual combative, populist-America First tone, with extensive criticism of Democratic leaders, moderate Republicans, and mainstream media.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Redistricting Wars & GOP Strategy

• Dave Bossie outlines state-level GOP challenges, blaming "RINO governors" for missed opportunities to secure conservative seats (“maximization on everything else,” [01:19]).
• Specific focus on:
  • Nebraska: Governor Pillman criticized for not moving to a winner-take-all electoral system ([01:54]).
    • Quote: “Governor Pillman, it must happen. If you’re in Nebraska, you must contact his office and make sure that they hear you loud and clear.” – Dave Bossie [02:06]
  • Maryland: Gov. West Moore’s alleged plan to gerrymander out Rep. Andy Harris, the last GOP House member from MD.
    • Quote: “The Democrats are going to do this where they can. And to be honest with you, we have to fight fire with fire.” – Dave Bossie [02:41]
  • Utah: Report that GOP may create more competitive (D-leaning) districts, angering Bannon and Bossie.
• Bannon frames redistricting as "the first battle of 2028":
  “This thing’s going to be a dogfight. The 2028 campaign, the first battle of 2028 is the redistricting war of 2026.” – Steve Bannon [04:29]

2. Trump’s Recent Political & Diplomatic Wins

• Matt Boyle provides detailed analysis of Trump’s negotiating strength and “deal-maker” identity, particularly highlighting:
  • Comey Indictment: Trump’s justice department has indicted former FBI director James Comey ([07:40]).
  • EU Trade Deal: Largest ever, covering up to 47% of world GDP ([09:50]).
  • Gaza Peace Deal: Framed as the largest American-negotiated peace agreement.
    “This Gaza peace deal is the biggest peace deal in the world today... This is big boy diplomacy that President Trump has pulled off here.” – Matt Boyle [10:30]
• Boyle consistently draws a contrast between Trump and previous presidents, positioning Trump as uniquely representing US workers and “regular Americans.”

3. Economic Instability: US & Europe

• Bannon and Boyle highlight US deficit ($1.8 trillion), skyrocketing gold prices, and central banks’ response ([16:36], [19:09]).
• Europe’s Turmoil:
  • Macron struggles to form a government; potential end of France’s Fifth Republic ([20:00]).
  • Citing surging right-wing populism in the Czech Republic, Germany, France, and Poland.
  • Rising skepticism toward the EU and establishment parties.
  • Notable quote:
    “It’s the economy, stupid. That law applies to voters everywhere in the world, not just here in the United States.” – Matt Boyle [22:02]

4. Political Realignment in Europe & America

• Discussion of rightward/populist drift, with explicit parallels between European discontent and the US “MAGA” movement:
  • “Isn’t EU and the politics on the ground coming to Trump and MAGA and coming away from Ursula and Macron?” – Steve Bannon [25:12]
  • Boyle’s response: “Without question, no doubt about it. And you’re seeing it on the major issues: economy, trade, and immigration.” [25:32]
• Suggestion that even “globalists” now see Trump was right on NATO and trade.

5. Government Shutdown, Immigration, and Urban Unrest

• Ongoing government shutdown tied directly to disputes over illegal immigration spending and the census ([31:56], [38:09]).
  • First missed paychecks for federal workers expected the next day, intensifying the crisis.
  • Democrats skewered for upcoming Napa Valley wine country fundraiser during shutdown:
    “The working people's party... are going where? For their fundraiser?... Napa Valley in California” – Steve Bannon & Matt Boyle [33:33~33:55]
• Increasing crime, mass protests, and left-wing activism in cities like New York, Chicago, Portland.
  • Top Democrat influencers accused of celebrating anti-Israel incidents:
    “What happened in the streets of New York... the other night is what's coming to America... It was an out-of-control riot throughout the evening with these, with the Red Green alliance, the neo-Marxist coupled with the jihadists.” – Steve Bannon [36:06]

6. Challenges of Political Negotiation

• Bannon & Boyle express skepticism about finding anyone in the Democratic Party with enough control to negotiate an end to the shutdown:
  • “Who is Trump supposed to negotiate with, brother?” – Steve Bannon [39:41]
  • “I don’t know if he could negotiate with anybody on their side... Which one’s harder to negotiate – Hamas or the Democrats?” – Matt Boyle [39:43–40:15]
  • Describes AOC as unable to control or negotiate credibly with Trump due to party pressures.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.” – Steve Bannon [00:39]
• “This is a war for the future of this country. And, and redistricting is one of the key components, one of the key battles we must win, and we must win it right now.” – Dave Bossie [03:31]
• “Donald Trump is the dealmaker in chief... The fact is, is that we finally have a president who’s their [the people’s] regular voice in the room.” – Matt Boyle [08:39]
• “The main event is on the Eurasian landmass right now… They all came over to the group meeting in the Oval Office… talked big talk… and we’re seven weeks later and nothing because they’re all broke.” – Steve Bannon [23:38]
• “Who is Trump supposed to negotiate with, brother? To end the government shutdown?” – Steve Bannon [39:41]
• "Which one's harder to negotiate – Hamas or the Democrats?" – Matt Boyle [40:13]
• “We rejoice when there’s no more. Let’s take down the CCP.” – Steve Bannon closing bumper

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:06 – Bannon: Opening “primal scream” monologue
• 01:51 – Dave Bossie on Nebraska, Maryland, and Utah redistricting
• 04:29 – Bannon: Framing redistricting as the “first battle” for 2028
• 08:35 – Matt Boyle on Trump’s recent wins (Gaza, EU deal, Comey indictment)
• 16:36 – Bannon: Analysis on gold, central banks, and systemic economic risk
• 21:02 – Matt Boyle: EU leadership crisis and economic malaise
• 25:32 – Boyle & Bannon: Populist surge in Europe and its parallels in the US
• 31:56 – Boyle: Anticipating Trump messaging at the Cabinet meeting; focus on shutdown ramifications
• 33:55 – Critique of Democratic fundraiser optics during shutdown
• 36:06 – Riots and unrest in New York City; rise of activist coalitions
• 38:09 – Connecting census/redistricting fights to immigration and urban disorder
• 39:41 – “Who is Trump supposed to negotiate with?” – the challenge of ending the shutdown
• 41:15 – Matt Boyle: Information on his social channels and Breitbart
• 43:47 – Mike Lindell: Brief promotional segment
• 44:01-onward – Bannon: Setting the stage for upcoming Cabinet meeting and afternoon shows; closing commentary

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Final Takeaways

• The episode presents the GOP and MAGA-leaning populist viewpoint as embattled but energized, urging listeners to engage in redistricting fights and support Trump’s domestic and foreign policy “victories.”
• There is a strong narrative of political realignment (in America and Europe), government dysfunction due to ideological divides, increasing unrest in US cities, and a doom-laden warning about current economic trends.
• The hosts reinforce their core argument: only America First, Trump-style leadership can "save" the nation.
• The show closes by hyping the pending Trump Cabinet meeting as "historic," promising full coverage and further analysis in subsequent episodes.

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Transcript

[Matt Boyle]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big L Maga media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Thursday, 9th October year for Lord 2025. A historic cabinet meeting is about to commence in the White House right next to the Oval Office. Our own Brian Glenn is going to be there live. I'm going to go there momentarily. Matt Bowles about to join us, national political editor of Breitbart and I think the best reporter on politics in the country, Dave Bossi. So Dave, continue on. We got a couple minutes. I want to make sure everybody gets this and please take Dave's article and read it. We're going to have a representative from Indiana on today. You know we spend a lot of time in Indiana 9 0, just like down in Texas. Abbott and these guys didn't want to do it. The great Brian Harrison and of course Glenn story and the team down there at Patriot Mobile. We got folks fired up. We should have gotten eight seats but we got five. But we need to maxim, we need, we need maximization on everything else, Dave, so continue. And by the way, Broski's 100% correct. It's these Rhino governors, Rhino governors that are stopping it. Keep going Dave.

[Dave Bossie]

Yeah, and let me just finish with Nebraska. You know, Governor Pillman has been a disappointment on a host of issues like property taxes in Nebraska. But his failure on leadership to get rid of the winner take all, to have a winner take all and to get rid of this second Congressional district to go from a D plus or an R plus three to a strong Republican seat. It must happen. Governor Pillman, it must happen. If you're in Nebraska, you must contact his office and make sure that they hear you loud and clear. Let me just talk about Maryland for a second. In Maryland you have Governor West Moore who is a radical leftist, you know, really just an anti trumper, somebody who's made an age old mistake of you know, basically running for president before he gets reelected. But he is going to make every attempt to call a special session to get rid of the one Democrat, the one Republican seat left in Maryland, and that is Andy Harris. The current chairman of the House Freedom Caucus is from the Maryland Eastern Shore. And the governor is going to gerrymander him out. If you have the ability to make sure that contact the Maryland Republican Party, get involved in this fight. This, this is a seminal fight because Andy Harris, one is a courageous conservative and a Trump supporter. But really, it makes Maryland into Massachusetts where there's no Republican representation whatsoever. The Democrats are going to do this where they can. And to be honest with you, we have to fight fire with fire. And let me just say this. My, my, my friend Kim Coleman, while we've been on the show, just told me, she's the national committee woman from Utah, that Utah is actually doing potentially the reverse, taking four solid Republican seats and making two of them competitive Democrat seats. We cannot have governors, Republican governors. Hear me, Governor Cox, we cannot do this, okay? The future of America is at stake. This is a war for the future of this country. And, and redistricting is one of the key components, one of the key battles we must win, and we must win it right now to take, to take effect in 2026.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm going to have you back on. What I want to do is take time in the next week and go through state by state because we're going to spend time on this. And hey, Cox, I said Cox is nothing but a wimp Democrat. They're going to put Utah in play.

[Mike Lindell]

They.

[Steve Bannon]

This thing's going to be a dogfight. The 2028 campaign, the first battle of 2028 is the redistricting war of 2026. And let me tell you who gets that. We get it here at the war room. Alex Degrasse gets it. Dave Bossie. The smartest guys, the smartest operatives in politics. I tell you who else gets it. A guy named Newsom out in California. He understands his entire presidential run. He can't talk about anything in California. It's such a disaster.

[Mike Lindell]

Why?

[Steve Bannon]

What he's gonna do is says, I'm the guy that stopped Trump. I'm the guy that led to Trump's impeachment. Newsom understands his entire 2028 campaign against President Trump is predicated on the redistricting wars now. And if you look at it, the big problem we got is a lot of these pencil neck wimp governors, right? The guys you just named right there are all terrible they're terrible. They're not maga. They're not even conservatives. I mean, forget maga. They're not even, they're basically moderate Democrats and you can tell by their actions. Boss, I want everybody to read this article. We're going to have you back on to drill. I'm going to take a state like a day and drill down and get people fired up and get them on the phones. Where do they go to get the article? Where they go for your social media, brother.

[Dave Bossie]

So, so folks need to think about Florida and Missouri and Indiana and Ohio when we talk about this in the weeks to come. But absolutely, go to Daily Caller. You can get it there. You can go up on my, you know, my social media David, underscore Bossie and get the article right now.

[Steve Bannon]

It's, it's the lead on my getter. By the way, the gross number I think is 21 if you count just Texas five. That's not netting out California, but I think our gross number is your because I include three seats in Ohio to go from 10 to five to 12 to two. So we're trying to push, we're trying to do the maximums, but I think the gross number could be 21 or maybe more. You got Louisiana, all of anyway, it's complicated, but it's simple. We got to put shoulder to the wheel here. Dave Bossie, thank you. We'll have you back, brother. Thank you, sir.

[Dave Bossie]

Thanks.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve May of 2014, boss's cattle call, I tell you, guy remembers it. His, his Matt Boyle. Matt had come over, was running politics at Breitbart at the time. Matt, you remember those cattle calls? Breitbart News Radio, we were doing interview. I think we're the only guy to interview Trump that day. The Main Street, CNN and msnbc, they said, no, we went to Des Moines. That was a little after that was in January of 15, right when they did the Sherman Theater, when President Trump was and quite frankly, Trump will admit he didn't dominate that day. That day was the, remember was the governor of Wisconsin kind of gave a speech out of nowhere that everybody said, wow, this guy, you know, could be real. So President Trump, remember at CPAC a month later, I think Trump only got three and a half percent of the vote. President Trump, it was a struggle. It was a fight. Don't think anything was handed to Trump back in 14 in May. I remember turning to Jeremy Peters, New York Times, who used to cover Andrew Breitbart and the Breitbart operation. He was there and I said, hey, you know, President Trump, candidate Trump, or he wasn't candidate, says, Mr. Trump's going to come over and give Breitbart News radio an interview. If you hang around, I'm sure you could ask him some questions. And Jeremy Peters goes, the only way I could get fired by the New York Times is interview Trump. And I go, what are you talking about? And he goes, he's not real candidate. He's just renegotiating his deal with the Apprentice. This is not real. And I go, I don't know, it sounds pretty real to me. It looks pretty good. Boyle, Yesterday was historic day. You've been on. You've been on this since the beginning. You had the antifa, which you guys did a great job. You had the antifa roundtable with President Trump and all senior advisors. You had mainstream media just ask snarky questions, off topic all day. Soborough and MSNBC last night did nothing but try to stir up these insurrectionists against ICE in Chicago. And of course, on top of that, you had the indictment of Comey, the first FBI director ever indicted on two felonies. And to top it off, President Trump bringing peace to the Middle east before this cabinet meeting starts. And I know you have a huge interview with the ambassador from the eu, but I want to get your thoughts on the last 48 hours, sir.

[Matt Boyle]

Yeah, well, Donald Trump is the dealmaker in chief. It's. I mean, he set out during his campaigns, three different campaigns for the White House, he set out to that his message to the American people was, elect me and I'll be your voice in the room. I'll be your seat at the table. And the American. That's all the American workers wanted, is they've wanted a seat at the table when these big negotiations are happening, when all these globalists get together at these confabs, like, they want to have a voice in the room, they want to have a seat at the table. They want to make sure their voice is heard. And for too long, for the last several generations. For the last generation, really, for the last several presidents dating back, I think the last president we really had before Trump, that was, you know, at least somewhat of a voice for the working class in the room, was Reagan. But it's just we haven't really had a president like this really in my lifetime. Right. I was born in 87, so I don't remember Ronald Reagan as president. But the fact is, is that we finally have a president who's their regular people's voice in the room. And what do the regular people want they wanna see an end to the wars and they wanna see the trade arrangements around the world renegotiated and rebalanced so that we're not getting screwed anymore. And the fact is, is that Trump is doing this, like, every day. All year, he has pulled off some of the biggest deals, whether it's peace deals and whether it's trade deals. And I mean, this Gaza peace deal is the biggest peace deal in the world today. This is the biggest deal, peace deal that an American president has ever negotiated. Right? Like, I mean, you know, again, both world wars ended in unconditional surrender. I would have said those are. But that wasn't a peace deal, that was surrender. Right? Like, this is. This is a peace deal and this is the biggest peace deal. This is big boy diplomacy that President Trump has pulled off here. And I think that, you know, look, it's tenuous, but the key now for all of these things, whether it's the trade deals or whether it's the peace deals, is implementation. So making sure that this new arrangement that President Trump has brought to the world and on behalf of the American worker and family sticks. Right? So that's the story I'm tracking as these things happen. Yes, there's the sexy, cool announcement of the deal. We have a deal, right? Like, I was there in Scotland and I interviewed the President the morning after he announced the European Union trade deal, which is the biggest trade deal in world history and the biggest trade deal in the world today. It covers more than 40% of world GDP trade. I mean, we're talking close to around $2 trillion of trade between the Europeans and the Americans every year. So again, 45%, by some estimates, 47% even in some estimates of world GDP covered in this trade. But now it's about implementation. And that's the interview that you mentioned that I did there, that we published last night with the EU Ambassador to the United States. We go into detail about this, right? And so the question is, are the two sides moving forward with, okay, they've agreed to the top lines, they signed a deal, the leaders signed off on it, it's a new arrangement. But now, is it going to get mucked up along the way or is it going to get implemented? And as of now, as it relates to the EU deal, it looks like it's getting implemented. Both sides are pretty committed to this, which is a good thing. Similar type of a situation here with this Gaza deal. The question is, will this deal be implemented? And there's a lot of potential for roadblocks along the Way from both sides, by the way. So the question is, can President Trump use that continued American might that he has displayed the peace through strength? And you know, the peace through strength as a concept really began under President Reagan, as we were talking about there before, but that was military strength. Trump has brought a new element to this and you really, you started seeing the beginning of it in the first term and he's really fleshed it out in his second term here, which is that he uses the economic might of the United States to help make this happen. You see, the president and others have talked about how tariffs have brought peace to the world. President Trump uses the trade power of the United States to force the American agenda and what's in the interest of the American people on the rest of the world. So that that stuff is super important.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on one second. We're gonna stick to it. They're still organizing for the Cabinet meeting. I think this cabinet meeting may set records. I think the last three and a half hours or three hours, 50 minutes, I think it was the longest on record. All of it, except for a few minutes was covered live. President Trump's got a lot to say today. Cabinet officials going to have a lot to say if he goes around the table. Our own Brian Gunn is there. We got Matt Boyle. We're going to enjoy Matt Boyle and get everything out of him we can until the Cabinet meeting starts. Now gold has blown through 4,000 bucks. One of the reasons is that we told you about this shift from just being a hedge to kind of risk mitigate a turbulent world of geopolitical risk and financial turbulence and uncertainty. Something that was fundamentally changed in the last couple of months. Central banks now gold is a significant, significant part of their asset structure as they start to dump the euro. We're in Asmat bull when we get back the governor. The government of France is about to fall. The fifth Republic may be coming end in Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic. A right wing populist wins on an anti EU ticket. Ursula, our girl Ursula, I think is up for a vote of no conference today. The question we have to Matt Boyle is who in the hell were you negotiating with when we talk about the eu? Short commercial break Matt Boyle National Political Editor of Breitbart in the war room next in America's heart.

[Matt Boyle]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Mike Lindell]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Boyle]

I mean first off, Ursula survived the vote was this morning and you know, obviously Europe's a few hours ahead of us, so she survived the vote for now. But you know, I mean there was still, there's what, a 720 member parliament and I think there were close to 400 votes for her. That means that there's a couple hundred against her. But it's a divided thing. And this is one of the things the ambassador told me about that's a little bit different. Across the 27 member states of the EU, they have multi party, they don't have a two party system like we do in America where there's the Republicans and there's the Democrats. They have coalition governments all over the place and so it's a lot more complicated, a lot more difficult to, for them to get things done. Trump has a great working relationship with Ursula von Orland. They've met multiple times over the course of this year. That was one of the other things we talked about. I talked to the ambassador about. Trump seems to like that as compared with many other European leaders. She does seem to be able to deliver what she says she's going to do. And so when she says she's going to do something, you know, she can, she can back it up with action. And Trump seems to like that as, as it exists now. Sure. Like yeah, she's the leader there. But you're right that there are these problems across Europe. It's, it's very simple. As you know, as Carville once said. Right. Like you know, it's the economy, stupid. That law applies to voters everywhere in the world, not just here in the United States. So what you're seeing, and by the way your, your prediction of the 2 trillion, I mean, and they're coming in at 1.8. That's not that far under the, the over, under there. Right. Like that's pretty darn close. So that's the thing, is that these are major things that, like, that's, that, that's pretty right on the money there, Steve. Right. Like, so it's like the, you know, it's like, it's like betting the over under on a football game. And it's like you wait there in the last 30 seconds, like, please don't hit the field goal. Please don't hit the field goal. Right. Like, it's like, you know, yeah, like they, they, they, they. It's pretty darn close. It's so the, again, the. You're seeing major economic issues across Europe, you're seeing in France, of course, you know, I think Macron is too proud and too conceited to, to step aside, even though he can't get a government together. So I think he's going to try to ride it out as you know, as long as he possibly can.

[Steve Bannon]

But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang. We're about to start a historic cabinet meeting, right? It's going to go on for a while. By the way, the Charlie Kirk show follows us. It has for four years at noon, you got poso at two, Gruber three, bowling at four. We're back at five alive five to seven. So the after President Trump and I think he may actually go to Egypt or Israel on Sunday, they're talking about maybe address the Knesset or go to the last negotiation or see the hostage released. The next pivot is actually one that's ten times bigger than what's happening in Israel, because I say Middle east is kind of a sideshow and Israel is a sideshow to a sideshow. The main event is on the Eurasian landmass right now. Matt, they all came over. They all came over, including, I think Ursula was with them. They all came over to the group meeting in the Oval Office and they all talked big talk about how much money they're going to put up, how many arms are going to put up, how many troops are going to put. And we're seven weeks later and nothing because they're all broke. They don't have any weapons, they don't have any arms, they don't have any troops. And more importantly, they don't have the political will. And I think the Czech, the Czech Republic election. This guy's anti Ukraine war, he's anti eu. Isn't it actually drifting more towards Trump that ADF is rising as the leading in the polling in Germany right now? You know, our good friend, your good buddy Nigel Farage would be the prime Minister with a majority in the UK that the polling she can't run because she's barred legally by lawfare. But Le Pen would win today if they had an election in France. And those are the big three in the EU isn't eu. And the politics on the ground coming to Trump and Maga and coming away from Ursula and Macron and the Atlantis and the European first crown.

[Matt Boyle]

Yeah, without question, no doubt about it. And you're seeing it on the major issues of the economy, trade and immigration. And I think that what you're seeing is this move towards Trump, America first, economic nationalism, whatever you want to call it. Right. Like across the board, whether in all of their elections. And you're seeing it, I mean like the new Polish president who won this summer. Right. Like, I mean Nawaraki, he seems to be a pretty solid dude in the, in what you're seeing. I mean even some of the younger leaders, I think President Trump later today is going to be meeting with the president of Finland. You know, there's another guy. But I do, I do think that even with the globalist types, they're even recognizing that Trump was right about things like NATO, about things like immigration and things like trade.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes. Hang on for a second, Matt. We're going to try to keep you before the Cabinet Historic Academy. We've got a lot more to go through. By the way, he loves the Finnish guy, number one because the guy's a scratch golfer. I think he played, I think he played ncaa and I think he was thinking of, I think he tried to be a pro at one time. Trump loves this guy. He, Trump loves playing golf with him. Right. The president of Finland. Anyway, we're gonna take a short commercial break. Mad Boyle's in the house. The president's getting ready to kick off a historic cabinet meeting. We're gonna cover it all wall to wall here. Real America's Voice, the war room next.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

You know, we had our, we had our unprecedented eight hours over eight hours of coverage continuous commercial free thanks to our sponsor AMAC and Birch Gold and my Patriot Mobile on Saturday. No excuse. That was, that was Sunday. Sunday, it all blends together. Sunday, just like we had the uninterrupted for Charlie Kirk's celebration of his life out in Glendale, Arizona. And like we had the prayer vigil at the Kennedy center, of course, before we did West Point and we did Army 250, the parade. This will be the beginning. And it was so interesting. One of my colleagues has a friend, you know, former Marine, because you're never an ex Marine, former Marine that really loved our coverage. All the people we brought in from the Navy, which, you know, very special job on Sunday. And he said, look, he was so moved by us bringing the history, the strategy, the geopolitics, the shipbuilding program, everything had to go that he just hoped that Steve and the team when he pivoted, because I keep calling the Marines the junior naval service. He says when Steve and the team pivot to the men's department of the Navy, that I hope it's going to be good. It's going to be great. We're going to, we're going to bifurcate this. There's a special that the White House is going to do on Saturday, 5 to 8. We're going to have a team together. You're going to be blown away. And then the following Saturday there's going to be. Which we'll have more details tomorrow. There will be, there'll be additional details, more on Saturday. I think Saturday could be an all day event. So. And we'll cover it, of course, the worm in Real America's Voice. We'll put all the resources we have to, to cover it. To cover it live tomorrow. Also, Seaport Pier in Wildwood. Wildwood, New Jersey. Go to May gop. I think for Kate May, May GOP to get the details or Grace and moa put them out. Let's get it out to all the force multipliers. 4 to 7pm A live rally. We're going to cover it live 5 to 7 on the war room. And you got Cliff Maloney. You're going to have Pressler. We got all we have folks from New Jersey running for office. It's going to be extraordinary. Plus the, the gubernatorial candidate for the Republican Party. So it's on fire in New Jersey and this one's winnable and it's so important for us to win it. The folks are at my Patriot Supply. You know, it's one of my favorite companies because what they do is so just extraordinarily cool. Go to my Patriot Supply right now. They've Got a special just for the war room. The winner prep special bundle. I think it's $1,100, almost $1,100 of value. You get it for 697. Okay, so right there, a massive discount. Plus they throw in another $400. Over $400 of special additional gear. Now, here's how you find out about it. It's a special just for the Warren Posse. Go to my patriotsupply.com promo code Bannon to get the winner bundle, the special winter bundle, which normally would be 1100 bucks, you get it for 6.97. In addition, they throw in a additional $400 of other product. So check it out. You spend time. And most importantly, because we partner with these sponsors, we want to make sure you get access to people. They got the best consultants over there to take as much time as you want. And we got feedback the other day. They love it when the Warren Posse calls. They said, hey, we love these folks. They're true maga. They're patriots, you know, at the tip of the spear. We love the questions. We love having them. My patronsupply.com, promo code Bannon. Go do it today. Matt Boyle, you know, you've interviewed the President, so many historic interviews. You've been doing this for a long time. I tell people all the time, Boyle's the only guy that lived to tell. Working directly for Tucker Carlson, Andrew Breitbart, and Stephen K. Bannon. So give us your perspective. We're about to have a historic cabinet meeting. I'm sure the President's having kind of a pre game right now. Walk us through what we can anticipate today, sir.

[Matt Boyle]

Well, Trump is a master of messaging, right? Like, so he's always thinking through what is the message I want to accomplish with this public appearance and how do we get that message across. And I think the big thing that's on everybody's minds right now is how do we end this. Democrat Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, government shutdown, and what does that look like? So I think that we're what, nine days into it, ten days into it, Something like that.

[Mike Lindell]

I don't know.

[Matt Boyle]

I lose count these days, too, with all the days, they all blur together, but something like that. But there hasn't really been real pain until possibly tomorrow. And so this is the thing. The first government workers are going to miss their first paycheck tomorrow. And that's when you start seeing pressure points coming in. So I think what you're going to see is from President Trump, but Also from all the other people that are involved in running the government, guys like Russ Vogt, guys like who's the OMB director, guys like Secretary Bessant, people like Attorney General Bondi, Kristi Noem, et cetera, all talking about what are the real world implications if the Democrats don't reopen the government. I think the Senate has votes scheduled later on today, this evening, before they all move side of town. By the way, the Democrats, it's worth noting, have a massive fundraiser scheduled this weekend in Napa, in California, out of the wineries. Right. Like, so. They want to go raise their $30 million.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it, hold it, hold. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on. Hang over a second. Hang on a second. You tell me the, the Working People's Party, the Democrats, the dsa, what's taken over? The Red Green alliance has taken over. That's the driving motive force in the Democratic Party. From the streets of Chicago to the streets of New York. They're going where? For their fundraiser. Can I hear that again, sir?

[Matt Boyle]

Napa Valley in California. So for their big annual fundraiser. So, like they're gonna have a winery tour, right? Like so. Yeah, because the average working class person across America, you know, the bartenders like AOC used to be, can totally afford to go on a you a weekend at Napa just because. No, but like, again, they're gonna raise like tens of millions of dollars at this thing. But I think that they, the optics of doing it if they continue the shutdown are terrible, especially when service members in our military and federal workers. By the way, many of the federal workers are Democrats. Like they're dyed in the wool party line. Democrats are gonna miss their first paycheck tomorrow while their party leaders are flying out to Napa on private jets for the multimillion dollar winery fundraisers. So again, I think that the pressure point at this meeting today is gonna be seeing how they make the message of what comes next. If the Democrats keep this charade going with the government shutdown, then the second big thing to look for is of course, any new details or information about the various deals, particularly the Gaza deal, but also the other trade deals. So we'll see if Jameson Greer, the US Trade Representative, is there. Secretary Besson, again, is somebody to watch on this. Secretary Rubio, the Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. Obviously people to watch here. And then also what's happening in our cities. Like, so we're seeing what's going down in Portland, we're seeing what's going down in Chicago with the lawless Left and antifa rioters. You know, we saw just last night in, I believe in New York City, you saw left wing, you know, quote unquote, free Palestine protesters going to try to storm the blackrock building in New York City. And by the way, there's these, you know, top Democrat influencers out there.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. The media didn't cover this. What happened in the streets of New York on October 7th the other night is what's coming to America. And the New York Times doesn't want to cover it. In the Wall Street Journal and Murdoch's Fox News. They're outside of Fox. They don't want to cover it. I'm telling you, the threat to Israel and the Jewish people, as I said, the National Conservative Convention, one of the closing keynote speeches, it ain't coming from Tehran. It is New York is gonna be worse than London and Siddiq Khan. This thing the other night, I don't even know if anybody was arrested. It was an out of control riot throughout the evening with these, with the Red Green alliance, the neo Marxist coupled with the jihadists terrorizing people.

[Matt Boyle]

If you go ahead, top Democrat influencers, Steve, like people that are palling around with Gavin Newsom, doing interviews with him are literally out there celebrating it. Okay. On Twitter. We're working on a huge story on this today on Bright Bright. We're going to have it later today. So about this top Democrat influencer who is out there celebrating exactly that in New York City, what we saw the other night. But again, so getting back to the cabinet meeting though, I think that seeing what the Attorney General Pam Bondi and what the Secretary of Homeland Security Christine Noemi have in store for these things and what they are doing about this and then also hearing from them about, you know, from, from Attorney General Bondi about future accountability steps like, you know, what we've seen now with former FBI Director James Comey being indicted, are there more of that stuff coming? And then also from, from Secretary Noem about more national security threats that may or may not be looming because of the government shutdown. Of course, there are a lot of government workers working without paychecks or maybe furloughed. Does that threaten our national security with what Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and the rest of them are doing?

[Steve Bannon]

And so, but Matt, Matt, hang on, Matt, hang on one second. I just want to go back to the government shutdown, the census fight and the redistricting fight we're having right now all centers on The Democrats gun decking the 2020 census because of illegal aliens. Correct. The situation in Portland and Chicago is about crime forever. Yeah, but if they don't count the illegal aliens, they'll never take back. The House Electoral College is against them. In Portland and Chicago it's about ICE on the mass deportations, on the government shutdown. It's about a trillion dollars that they have to spend on illegal alien health care. Everything. This, the whole connective tissue here is, wait for it, illegal aliens. And the reason is they're not a political party. They have it. Look at Zorhan. Look what they're going to turn New York into. Look what London's gone to, folks. This is all of a piece. So Matt, once again, who is Trump's like in eu, who's he negotiate with? This is one of the reasons it's getting done in the Middle east, because finally he had Cutter and other guys step up. And look, I'm no fan of Qatar, but kind of is what it is in the Democratic Party. Hakeem Jeffries is a grundoon. Okay? Chuck Schumer is kind of drifting off to the side. Who is Trump supposed to negotiate with, brother? To end the government shutdown? Like, who does he sit in a room with? Who's got any stroke? Schumer's got no stroke in the Democratic Party, they think in the streets of New York, they think Hakeem Jeffries is a joke. So who is Trump supposed to negotiate with, brother?

[Matt Boyle]

That's a great question, cuz. I don't know if he could negotiate with anybody on their side. In fact, this weekend, last Saturday on my radio show, Breitbart News Saturday, I was talking to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen and I made it, cuz we were talking about both the deal in Gaza and the government shutdown with the senator. And then I, you know, he's talking about how difficult it is to negotiate both things and I'm like, like, you know, I make it aside at the end of the thing, I was like, you know, Senator, which one's harder to negotiate? Hamas. Negotiate with Hamas or the Democrats?

[Dave Bossie]

Right.

[Matt Boyle]

Like, and it's a fair question, right? Like, I don't know, like, and that's the thing is that who, who could, if let's say you put AOC in a room with Trump and she was able to work out a deal with him, would, would, would she then get pilloried by the, this radical leftist base that controls the Democrat Party? Probably right. Like, so that's the thing is that.

[Steve Bannon]

There is no Matt Matt, hang on. Hang on one second. We're gonna take a short commercial break. We're gonna wrap up. Cabin me has not started. Our Brian Glenn is there. Matt Bowles in the house. Short break. Back in a moment. Spread the word over Hong Kong we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the CCP war room.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

The cabinet me is about to start. Matt Boyle, what are your coordinates? Thank you for spending an hour with us. What are your coordinates, sir?

[Matt Boyle]

Just go to breitbart.com I'm also on X at Twitter Boyle1 and on TrueSocial. Ealmatt Boyle. So all of those places. Thanks, Steve, for having me. And our team's working hard on a lot of different things and major stories out there all the time.

[Steve Bannon]

So.

[Mike Lindell]

And you're.

[Steve Bannon]

And you're hosting and you're hosting your. You're hosting. You're hosting the Saturday morning show, correct?

[Matt Boyle]

That's correct. Every Saturday morning, 10am to 1pm Eastern Time. Bright Bar, new Saturday on Sirius XM125.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother the Patriot.

[Matt Boyle]

Thank you, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Mike Lindell]

Thanks, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Michael and Dell fighting for an election. Integrity. He's a guy. It's under the gun. Okay. I think we, I think we, we took the over and when the cabinet meeting is going to start and we won, normally they got to get, they got to get organized. There's so much going on. I mean, this is all so historic. And remember President Trump to a degree in the negotiations, kind of making it up. He's got an overall kind of vision and architecture to it. But President Trump's been known to call an audible at the line of scrimmage and make some of it up as he goes along. That's the power of being a great negotiator. I'm sure we're going to get an update. I believe this cabinet meeting when it starts, our own Brian Glenn and I think they're starting to gather. They haven't started the feed yet, but we understand they're starting to gather. So as I toss it to the Charlie Kirk show, which we've done every workday for the last four years, as we talk to the Charlie Kirk show, it may actually be live and I think it's going to be quite intense. I'm sure there's going to be an update from the president. It's going to be extraordinary. And so there's so many things going on. Or think about it. I mean, Boyle tossed in at the end, oh, by the way, he's Got to negotiate an end to the government shutdown. Well, I think there are other alternatives, and I think the president's looking at other alternatives to make sure that essential personnel are paid, I think including the military. So we'll have to see about that. But I'm not so sure that the paycheck itself, the paycheck in and of itself is enough actually to, to drive President Trump to actually, you know, excuse me, and the, to end the entire shutdown because we're winning right now and you can't give up. President Trump's never going to compromise. There is some issues about Obamacare. There's some issues that got to be sorted out with that. But President Trump is never, ever, ever going to compromise on the illegal alien spending for health care. He's just not going to do it. Because everything, if you go back to it, if they don't have illegal aliens in the census, if they don't have illegal aliens to count their congressional district districts, if they don't have illegal aliens that somehow they can get them to vote, and that's why the mail in ballots were such a scam and how they stole the 2020 election. If they don't have that, they don't have. They're a party with no power and very little stroke because they've driven the American people away because they're so radical. And you see this, don't take it from me, just say what's happening on the streets of New York. Once again. When I gave the natcon speech and it was addressed to Netanyahu and these guys, your number one problem ain't in Tehran. Your number one problem is in the streets of New York. There you have a Marxist, you have the Red Green alliance that Trevor Louden and Frank Gaffney's guys, Raheem Kassam have warned about for decades now and people laughed at him. Well, it's in the streets of New York. Just go back and look at the footage, look at the videos from October 7th of what happened in New York. It was celebratory. It was a celebratory riot, okay? They are celebrating the worst slaughter of Jews in the world since the Holocaust. That's what they were celebrating because they wanted to do more. This is what President Trump has had to step in and try to organize this peace deal. It's not easy. And of course, Netanyahu way overplayed his hand and tried to drag American into it and way overplayed his hand and he's going to end up with a two state solution that's just obvious because the Arabs are going to be in Gaza and they're going to have a security force there. And more importantly, they're going to put up the money for the, for the redevelopment. But the Palestinians aren't going anywhere. So the in the law of unintended consequences, the very thing Netanyahu wanted to do is. We told you he was overreaching. It's going to end up happening. And on top of it all, you're going to get Zorhan in New York. And for those conservatives running around, oh, he's a socialist and let him have socialism. He's so much deeper than not a socialist. He's a Marxist and a jihadist. And that's what you're going to have. Okay, we're going to toss it to the Charlie Kirk shows we've done every day for the last four years, every workday. The President, the Cabinet, they're starting to gather in the Cabinet Room. I think the feed will be live, that we're going to take it live here in real America's Voice. We are going to be back at 5 o', clock, 5 to 7. I will commit to you that we'll be on fire from what's happening throughout the day, give you not just the news, but analysis, observations, and kind of maybe even a couple of projections of what's going to happen. We'll see you back here at 5 o'.

[Mike Lindell]

Clock.

[Steve Bannon]

Leave you with the right stuff. 5pm you'll be back in the war room. See you then.

[Matt Boyle]

This is an I Heart podcast.