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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Saturday the 18th of October. Yerver Lord 2025. We're here in Texas today, north of DFW. I've got Brian Harrison joins me for this hour. And because we're focused on grassroots in Texas, we've also got Lee Wams Gon is Wams Gon is going to be with us. She's running for the Senate. She's going to join us, co host for the next hour. We're also juggling all the, all the information we're getting out of the Moms for Liberty Summit down in Orlando, Florida. And we're going to be going shortly About Marine Corps 250, the 250th anniversary celebration commemoration in Camp Pendleton today and amphibious assault. You're going to get to see live that Amanda Head, John Solomon's partner is going to be out there hosting that. We're going to get all this. Michael Pack, the great filmmaker is going to join us in a moment. One of the best filmmakers about the United States Marine Corps. I want to go back to the summit, Tina Deskovitz. Tina, quite frankly, you teed it up yesterday for us. But, man, this thing is on fire. The energy, you can feel it. The multi generations, the turning Point. We took the whole segment from the Turning Point kids coming up to the Turning Point video to Benny Johnson's just amazing witness. Talk to us about your feelings this morning as your summit is literally on fire.
Tina Deskovich
Oh, it's been such a powerful morning. Unfortunately, I've had too many tears already this morning through the Charlie Kirk tribute. Having those K on stage, seeing the future of America here with Moms for Liberty this year has been very moving and remarkable. Right now on stage, while we're out here, is Benny Johnson with our dad's panel. And I was in there for the first few minutes of it. The crowd just keeps going crazy in there. So I think they're doing a really good job. I know Terry Schilling is out there and on the stage and he has seven kids and he just announced that number eight is on the way. And the crowd just went wild.
Steve K. Bannon
Unreal. And then Benny committed to, I think, number five. Tina, what's the. What do you want to see come out of this? You've got great speakers, high energy, a broad range of folks. But what is, what's the purpose? What are we trying to drive towards?
Tina Deskovich
Well, ultimately, we're here to educate and empower, to give parents the tools they need to go back in their communities to save not only our country, but we're realizing Western civilization. It's becoming a much bigger, more broad mission. We do this work, and so that's the grassroots hard work that's going on here. But at the high level, it's just great to be together with your people that believe the same, feel the same, have the same mission. That's what brings the energy and the excitement and the inspiration and really fills all of their cups to be able to go back and do this.
Steve K. Bannon
What was it that you did in starting this parental rights movement that so triggered the teachers unions? I mean, obviously, we gotta be blunt. You've got an enemy in the teachers unions. They've targeted Moms for Liberty as one of their single biggest problems. And they want to make sure you never get another school district seat, that you're driven out of the schools, you're driven out of the libraries. What was it that you guys brought that drove the teachers unions go absolutely nuts?
Tina Deskovich
I think it was that first year when we won like 200 and something school board seats. Out of the blue, they. They were panicked. They've had such a strangle stronghold on education for decades. You know, when you go in and you meet school board members. I served on a school board. I was shocked at how many were former teachers union members. You can't be a member while you're on the school board, but you still have the same ideologies in your brain. And what was happening is you actually were negotiating. So if you're a teachers union member and you leave the teachers union once you're elected and you're negotiating with the head of the teachers union for everything, salaries, taxes, when school starts and stops, all of these things, you're just negotiating with yourself. There's nobody at the table. There's nobody representing kids or parents. And it's my opinion that that's why education just tanked in America. So Moms for Liberty comes on stage. We're like, oh, not anymore. Parents are taking this back. And started with the school board races, you know, we've upset all of their policies and their agenda. We call them out for their nonsense, and of course, they're our enemy.
Steve K. Bannon
Bo, you talked yesterday when we started the broadcast with you anchoring for us in Orlando, that you're a new dad and you're there and you keep looking for the dads, the dads for Liberty. And it's become a. It's become pretty big. Right. Benny's on the stage right now. What does that mean to you?
Bo Davison
Well, it means a lot. Tina was just talking about that, saying she was catching some of the panel. I think it's a big thing, for one thing. And I think, Tina, maybe you could address it, too. Is there a future for Dads for Liberty? Will there be that? Benny has intimated it. Maybe it'll happen. But I'm thinking about, Steve, just the things that I need to be thinking about as a new father. School choice, parental rights, parenting in the digital era, screen time, all the things that are being discussed here. So, as I mentioned to you yesterday, Steve, it is a learning experience for me. And so I kind of want to just ask Tina as well in terms of being a new dad and for all those new dads out there, as I look to my school choice for my kid, what are the two or three things I need to be thinking about right now in preparation for the. For what's coming for me?
Tina Deskovich
Yeah. Number one, it's actually very basic. Is the school using phonics to teach your child to read. For at least a decade now, America's been on this quest for a new way to teach reading. And obviously it's not working. We only have a third of kids in America that can read proficiently by fourth grade. And so number one question when you walk in is, are you teaching phonics? Like, how are you teaching my kid to read? And so, you know, you can go to momsolibly.org and we launched M4L academy.org where we are giving. That's where all the tools and resources are located. And we put together a back to school toolkit. There you can see the questions that you should ask the teachers and the school to try to select where you, not only where your students should go to school, but you know, what's happening to your child in that school. We also provide opt out forms. So if there's something that's going on there that you don't want to participate in, we've given you sample forms and letters that you can use to opt out of the things that might be not in alignment with your values.
Bo Davison
Yeah. And Steve, you know, I also think that in line with what Tina said, Florida, being here in Florida has set a standard. It set an example, I think, for what the rest of the country can follow. And I gotta say, Steve, thank God I'm in this free state of Florida to raise my child. But these are things I've got to be thinking about now. And I know there's a lot of dads out there that may not even know what Moms for Liberty is. But as Tina just said, you can go on the website and find the resources that you need right now. And that's what I'm going to do.
Steve K. Bannon
Yeah. Yeah. Tina, your social media, the website, where do people go? We're going to be covering this all day. It's absolutely amazing. But I want to make sure people get the inside baseball.
Tina Deskovich
Momsforliberty.org is our website. I'd ask everybody to join and become a member. It's free. And you can be a dad and be a member too. You don't have to just be a mom. So do that so we can stay in touch and we can tell you the things that are going on within our organization. You can catch us on all social medias. Mom number four, Liberty. And I'm Tina Deskovich on all socials.
Steve K. Bannon
Tina, thank you so much. Bo, we'll come back to you. I know we got a bunch of interviews and Bo, make sure you fill out that your your membership of Moms for Liberty today and we'll do it in the break. Okay, we'll come back to you guys as well. Tina. Tina love, let's roll. So the free state of Florida. We have two Anchors in the MAGA movement. And look, Ohio's amazing. Georgia's amazing. You know, you got all these amazing states that Arizona we got. They've got the bedrocks. Right. But the foundational elements of Florida and Texas. And you guys are very competitive with each other. Competing. Now, I assume that none of these problems we're talking about. It's because, folks, that I know so many Texans, and it's kind of their own republic. They're so proud of the University of Texas. They're so proud of Texas A and M. University of Texas. They brag all the time about their education system. So I know that all the issues that Tina's talking about in education couldn't possibly be in the state of Texas.
Brian Harrison
Now, as a native Texan who loves this state, who likes to believe that the state of Texas is or should be number one in just about everything, I hate to say it as an elected official here in Texas, Florida is just straight up kicking our butts.
Steve K. Bannon
Is that serious? They are.
Brian Harrison
They're running circles around you. The Moms for Liberty thing, school choice. Florida has been leading the fight against teacher unions. And the state of Texas, you know, I. I think just passed probably the biggest teacher union bribe in the history of America last session called HB2. Almost $10 billion. No, the teacher unions. Yeah.
Steve K. Bannon
Do that. How could that possibly be?
Brian Harrison
Because it's how we.
Steve K. Bannon
This. This is the Texas Republic of Texas.
Brian Harrison
I know one.
Steve K. Bannon
It's a right to. Where you guys hate unions?
Brian Harrison
We are. Well, the people do. Yeah. The government is all about the teacher unions here in the state of Texas. In Florida. Talk about empowering parents. I mean, they started the parental empowerment movement and 30 years ago, passed Education Freedom to let parents pick where to choose to send their kids to school. Texas, I think the only Republican state left that didn't have anything until a few months ago. But unlike Florida, where it's actually universal and every parent can get to send their kid where they want. In Texas, our school Choice bill, only 1% of parents even get to benefit from this thing. And all the rest of the money was shoved over to the teacher union.
Steve K. Bannon
Since you've paid, you know, you're paying the teachers union. You've done this $10 billion bill. The results must be amazing. It's worth the cash you're giving them.
Brian Harrison
Oh, you either laugh or cry, but it's an existential crisis, and that's why I'm so grateful. For what? The movement, Moms for Liberty, not just in Florida, but across the country, because we have liberal indoctrination Everyone knows about this. We talk about, you talk about it all the time. But it's not just the liberal indoctrination is going up, but the fundamentals of education are plummeting. And even in Texas. This breaks my heart, makes me angry. Actually, only 24% of Texas 8th graders are proficient in reading. Full stop.
Steve K. Bannon
Full stop. Not in the state of Texas. Not as proud as you guys are.
Brian Harrison
Only 23% of Texas 8th graders are proficient in math. So it's generational crisis.
Steve K. Bannon
How can Abbott and these people, how can the political class in Austin accept that?
Brian Harrison
Because the reality is for too long, the teacher unions, which again, the state of Florida has been doing battle with and the state of te Texas, by the way, should be leading the fight against the liberal, Marxist, leftist, progressive teacher unions. Instead, we're taxing Texans out of their homes to subsidize the teacher unions. Everything that Trump supports.
Steve K. Bannon
Walk me through that. Connect that. Those.
Bo Davison
Yeah.
Michael Pack
Okay.
Brian Harrison
So the way it happens is so people pay property taxes wherever you are in Texas, you.
Michael Pack
And you don't.
Steve K. Bannon
And you don't have a state income tax.
Brian Harrison
So the problem, you don't have a state. So the property tax is right. We have them, but they don't have to be the highest in the country. We have the highest effective property tax rate in the country. So wherever you are in Texas, when you pay your school property tax bill, I'll walk you through this. What happens is local districts, they don't take that money and do what you think they're doing with it, which is give it all to the teachers.
Steve K. Bannon
Right.
Brian Harrison
We should be prioritizing the teachers in the classrooms. What they're doing, they're taking that money and then handing it to liberal extremist organizations like the Texas association for School Boards. The tasks of these groups and what they do, they take this taxpayer money and then they weaponize it against conservatives values, against their beliefs, against their children. And they pay for lobbyists to go down to Austin to lobby for more money for the teacher unions to put boys in girls sports, to have, you know, men in girls bathrooms. This is what you're paying for if you pay, when you pay property taxes in Texas, these school districts are handing it over to these taxpayer funded lobbying organizations and they are lobbying the state government to do everything that conservative Republican Trump voters oppose.
Steve K. Bannon
We got a minute or two before we go to break. We're going to bring Michael Pack, the great filmmaker of the United States Marine Corps is going to join us to kick off the coverage for Marine Corps 250, which we're going to toss the baton to. Pass baton to Amanda Head at noon here on the War room. What do people do here in Texas to fight that? Then if they're going to sit there and go, hey, we want great education. We don't want the unions driving thing. It's ridiculous that Florida and Texas are the leaders of kind of the freedom and liberty movement in the country because they're the railhead of maga. How can you possibly have this in Texas? How do you break it?
Brian Harrison
Well, I tell people all the time, the most important, and I think Moms for Liberty, I don't think they would agree with this. I think the most important, most impactful office, political office in America today is your local school board. So, number one, we got to have real conservatives run for local office. That's super important. But number two, demand that the governor of Texas, Lieutenant governor, and the Texas legislature stop giving even a single penny to the teacher unions and that we've got to stop this egregious practice called taxpayer funding lobbying, where we take property taxes and hand it over to liberal extremist lobbyists to force the Texas government to again put money back in the hands of teacher unions.
Steve K. Bannon
You're paying for your own demise. I mean, this is what's unbelievable.
Brian Harrison
Yeah, no, we're. We're funding the very destruction of the next generation. The indoctrination.
Steve K. Bannon
It's almost like a Greek tragedy where the hero's strength is actually used against him, to destroy him.
Michael Pack
Right.
Steve K. Bannon
The. The great prosperity and entrepreneurial spirit and the hard work of the populist nationalist. MAGA is actually used against. To destroy their children and their grandchildren.
Brian Harrison
And it's happening without the knowledge of Texas voters because Texas voters wouldn't stand for this if they knew about it. And that's, that's why I'm so grateful to the posse and war room crowd for raising awareness. Because when Texas voters and voters across the country, when they see the truth, they don't stand for it.
Steve K. Bannon
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Jesse Grapes
So I arrived about 20 minutes, 15 minutes after this fight had begun. And it was at, I guess I would call it a bit of a stalemate. And the reason I say a stalemate is because wounded Marine inside, Staff Sergeant Chandler organizes a rescue party. They run in the room, try and shoot everything that moves so they can pull this Marine out. As soon as they run in, what do the enemy do? They're smart. They throw grenades in the room. As they walk in the room, they, they blow up. Now I've got two more Marines wounded. The other two wounded Marines fall into the kitchen, and they're trapped in this kitchen. So now I got four Marines trapped in the house because no one can go in this living room without getting blown up. Another rescue party goes in, led by a corporal. Corporal Wolf goes in with a sergeant, and they try and go in. Corporal Wolf gets shot in his flak Jacket falls on the floor. Sergeant Byron Norwood gets shot in the head, killed instantly.
Brad Castle
Then First Sergeant Brad Castle realizes that there are men in extremis hurt. He can hear the screams. He enters the house. He grabs Marines nearby, takes them in with him, begins to develop the situation inside the house, and in the process of maneuvering to an empty room, engages and kills a man at close quarters and is wounded in the process by a enemy above him. And in fact, he and his partner, his buddy, Lance Corporal Nichols, both are stitched down their legs with AK47 fire.
Jesse Grapes
These guys are in a very good position. The enemy there was not a very easy way to get to them. And at the same time, all of these rooms, the structure is very solid. The construction Iraq is very sturdy. Steel rebar, reinforced concrete, and sometimes triple layer brick. You couldn't shoot a missile through some of these walls. And so we couldn't bring any heavy weapons to bear, couldn't bring any grenades to bear because we had too many of our own men wounded on the inside. So basically all we could use was our hands and our guns. So another Marine, PFC Boswood and myself, started taking this sledgehammer to the steel grate of this window.
Brad Castle
So the Lieutenant goes in without their protective vests and plates on, et cetera, through the bars of a window that they manage to pull aside. This all in extremis. There's firing going on. There are grenades being thrown in the house. There's groups of Marines separated and trapped by this very effective defense scheme. And Grapes goes in with Boswood. They identify the threat above them. They work out a scenario to. To suppress the enemy above them.
Jesse Grapes
We got four or five guns pointed up at these positions. And just like you'd imagine with a countdown. Okay, you ready? I'm not sure, you know. Okay, well, we're gonna go on three. Make sure you don't run in front of our guns, because we're gonna be shooting. And the old ready, set, go. And then we start unloading on these guys upstairs. And these two selfless Marines run across this kill zone not once, not twice, but four times to pull Marines out of there. And we had some Marines in some pretty bad situations. Lance Corbell, Nick or PFC Nicholl was bleeding really bad from his leg. First Sergeant Castle was carried out by those two Marines who aren't carrying any weapons, but still holding his weapon ready to fight. And they were in bad shape, so we had to get them out of there as quickly as possible. But we still had these two guys in the house. And they weren't going anywhere. And we weren't going anywhere until the job was done.
Brad Castle
They managed to get everybody out of the house alive. And Byron, they managed to get Sergeant Norwood out of the house.
Steve K. Bannon
I was honored to be the executive producer of, I think, and I've been told by many Marines, one of the most powerful films ever made about the Marine Corps, the last 600 meters, the director, writer and director, Michael Pacht. And Michael, you chronicled, which I think is so important, these kind of forgotten battles, which are huge really, if you look at them, huge Marine Corps history in Iraq, in the Iraq war. The first battle of Fallujah, the Battle of Najaf, and then the second battle of Fallujah, which is kind of the Mack Daddy, one of the most intense battles in the history of the Marine Corps. You do it through the eyewitness account of the Marines that fought there. Tell us about it.
Michael Pack
Well, in fact, you're right, Steve. Fallujah and Najaf are the biggest battles America has fought since Vietnam. And the purpose of the film is to tell the story, the ground truth in the words and deeds of the people who fought there. Not whether the war was right or wrong, but what happened in these battles. To tell it as a battle story, as if it were Gettysburg or Iwo Jima. And I think the right way to honor the men and women who've risked their lives for us is to celebrate what they did in battle. That's how they want to be remembered. Not discussing PTSD or anything else. They want that to be remembered in a fair, truthful way. And as you know, Steve, we don't really sugarcoat these battles. They were horrible meat grinders, and we depict them that way. And that's what counterinsurgency urban warfare is like. And the film is, you know, as you know, Steve, we completed a long time ago, 17 years ago, and for PBS and finally they're putting it on this year. But it's actually more relevant than ever now that, you know, if you look at wars in Gaza or Ukraine, they are very similar. And future wars will be like that, too. And we need to honor these, these men and women. They're mainly Marines. That's the Marine. You know, you're celebrating the Marines today, but Army, Air Force, too, but, but mainly Marines. And they are heroic. You can see it in that clip. You know, Jesse Grapes, he never would say this. It takes Willie Bules to say it. Imagine going into Hell house where your. Your, your fellow Marines are pinned and taking your Kevlar and armor off to go in.
Brian Harrison
It's.
Michael Pack
It's mind boggling that.
Steve K. Bannon
No, the heroism. That's why today on we're gonna have a celebration of this film after what, over a decade, 17 years. PBS is final point. I gotta give a little history. In fact, I'm gonna hold you through the break. I gotta juggle this with mom's lure, but I gotta tell the story. So Pac, so he's first off the longest standing guy that hung in with President Trump in the first term. Three years would not been to Mitch McConnell. They destroyed Michael Pac and says he's my hero because they destroyed Pac. Every day when he was gonna take over Voice of America and everything. And he says, I'm not gonna stop, I'm gonna get confirmed. And eventually Trump says, stick in there, we're gonna get you confirmed. It happened. But in the Bush administration, Michael was put in to basically be the content. Cuz it was so out of control to be a content guy. The left went nuts. The Bush administration folded, as they always do. But going out the door, they told Pac, hey, we'll give you as much money as you need or money to go shoot the phone book if you want to. And Pac, Kimmy had this idea that, hey, this war in Iraq, it's so high tech. You got, you know, everything from Schwarzkopf, national advance, all make a thing about the high tech part of the war. And Pat goes and does his research. He comes back in about six months. He goes, hey, you know what? I actually realized I'm wrong. That this war is going to be fought at the gunman to gunman. It's going to be down to 600 meters. And that's why this film is so incredible. You actually see what Marine rifle squads go through. This is when they call them grunts. You're seeing the grunt work. I mean, Michael, it's so intense because it's all eyewitnesses accounts of these battles in Iraq that really the media never covered. Particularly the urban warfare that they had to go through.
Michael Pack
Sir, I think that's right. And that accounts for today. The veterans of these wars are not adequately celebrated. I'm glad that you're doing it. Whatever you think of the war, these young men and women risk their lives for us. So I'm really happy that they are getting a chance to be celebrated. And their efforts were heroic, as you see in that clip. But throughout the entire 90 minutes of the film. And we see it from the level both of the people on the ground and the people, the grunts, as corporals and sergeants, but then a couple levels up to the one star generals that were actually in the field. No one back in Washington. Yeah, we think it's ground truth what it's like in these battles and that's the way to celebrate the Marine Corps is to understand what it's like to fight. So I think it's great that PBS is putting it on. It's going to be on the day before Veterans Day November 10th at 10pm all around the country. So I think it's a great time, a great slot. So we're happy to do that and.
Steve K. Bannon
We'Re happy to celebrate the Marine Corps November 10th. It's also the Marine Corps official 250th birthday. We're going to be doing a lot with Michael. We're not going to be out in panel today, but we're going to do a lot around the 10th. Also we're doing aren't we doing on October 30th, are we doing a live screening of this in Washington?
Michael Pack
We are indeed. We're screening it on October 30th and we're going to try to get a lot of veterans to come. My wife, who's my business partner and was an executive producer along with Steve, is working to reach out to all of them. And a lot of them you don't want to come. Not all of them are even in the area. I mean, it's been a long time. You know, we were lucky to be able to interview them two years after the battle when their memories were fresh and they look like they do in the footage now it's 17 years later. They've all had their own complicated lives, but many of them really want to come and those that aren't coming want to watch it and tell their families to watch it. And you're right that even though it's never been broadcast on pbs, it's sort of people have heard about it, people talked about it, you and I. Steve took it to a bunch of military bases a while ago to raise money. So people have heard it. They've been waiting for it. People remember it even 17 years later. I think it's broadcast and its screening will be a big event and I hope we can get some of the veterans from the Trump administration to come too.
Steve K. Bannon
We're going to do it big. Michael, hang on for one second. I gotta the I gotta have you tell the story when you come back. On the day of Marine Corps 250 out in camp Pendleton. Just extraordinary. Michael Pax is the nicest, gentlest calmest guy. Why they hate us. Why are they so fierce? Contact. They threw him out the first time, Right. They won't show his film after 17 years. They've never put it on PBS and they paid for it. And three years of torture to get confirmed to get confirmed by the United States Senate in President Trump's first term. Short commercial break we're coming back to pac. We're in Texas with Harrison. We're going to the Moms to Liberty Summit in Orlando, Florida. Back in a moment. When your company earns unlimited 2% cash back on all purchases with Capital One, that's serious business. So Stephen at Sandcloud got a serious business card, the Spark Cash plus card from Capital One. We used our 2% cash back to help build our retail presence. Savvy Steven. And we get big purchasing power so our business can spend more and earn more.
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Find out more@capital1.com SparkCashPlus here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, today in the war room, we are going we're in Orlando with the Monster Liberty Summit. We're here in Texas. Talk about the grassroots movement, this burgeoning grassroots movement in Texas. We're also going to be at Camp Pendleton. Real America's Voice. Amanda Hedgehog for Marine Corps 250. I want to go back to the Marine Corps official birthday, which is the 10th of November. Michael, you got to be so proud that now, 17 years ago, they financed this film. As soon as they saw it, they go, no, we're not showing this because it's not about the politics of Iraq. It's about the heroism of this young generation. And they wanted no part of that but to select you to be what they're going to show on the evening of the 250th anniversary. The commemoration of the Marine Corps is very powerful and here's how powerful the film is when MICHAEL we took it around a bases and we showed it to Marines and they loved it. It was, it had an impact on them because it said, look, this thing doesn't put it, it's no phony glory here. This is not a Hollywood production. This is just, this is just grit and determination and true the essence of courage. When you have to do it against all odds, you're just going door to door and you can tell the entire time, this is a thankless, thankless job. Right? So you took it around, though, to force recon. Now, the Marine Corps, they don't have a Special Forces. They say they're all Special Forces, but the special force of the Marine Corps is what's called Force Recon. And these are the ones that hit the beach, particularly in the Pacific. Early you took it around to, I think, a gathering alumni of Force Recon. These guys got to be in their 80s or 90s at the time. And Pac Joseph, cause afterwards it says, he says, hey, you know, I'm taking it to the bravest of the brave. All these guys sit there and go, I couldn't, I couldn't do what these kids do. And Pac's sitting there going, hold it, hang on. You're the bravest of the brave? What are you talking about? And he said, hey, In World War II, we were hitting the beach, we clear cut everything. You don't give up an inch. You don't, hey, you're not taking any prisoners. We're just going, right? Because with 17 and 18 year old kids, what these guys did, men and women had to kick down those doors and go in and what, 250,000 people in Fallujah, they sucked them all in. They wanted all the bad guys from Chechnya, they wanted all the bad guys in one place and they had to go door to door, room to room, to clear it. Michael, pack your thoughts about the Greatest Generation's greatest saying that this was more powerful than anything they had done.
Michael Pack
It was very moving. I wish the veterans of the film were there with me. They were saying that, yeah, when they were clear island hopping in World War II, when they were in Iwo Jima or any of those islands, they were sent to the islands ahead of everybody else.
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Michael Pack
They're forced recon. But they said if we, as they used a politically incorrect word, if we saw a Jap, we kill them. That was it. We didn't have to think about it. These guys have to sort stuff out. Who's civilian? Is this woman carrying water, feeding her family, or is she hiding an ied? They have to sort things out that they would never have been able to do at 17. And they were really amazed by their courage and by the sophistication required of these young men and women. It was really moving. I mean, after we showed the film, there was silence. I thought, well, I wonder what they're thinking. And then they came out with all the stuff and they all agreed, absolutely, every one of them felt the same way. And so I think the audience will feel that way too. By the way, Steve, you're always saying I'm a nice guy, but I do think that the opposition to me, both when I was working for President Trump and previously, you know, at CPB and elsewhere, wasn't personal. I never thought the people who were out to get me didn't like me personally. Most of them didn't know me. I think it was all about maintaining the left's complete control of the media and they did not want to give an inch. And in both of many of these cases, I represented a little bit of a crack and even a little crack was not enough and was too much rather. And they wanted to destroy me for that reason, not because they disliked me. It was never personal. And you know that as well as anybody.
Brian Harrison
Steve.
Steve K. Bannon
Mike, you're Michael, you're a true hero. Where do people go to get to the company, to your content, social media? And once again, 10:00pm Eastern Daylight Time on the 250th birth commemoration of the birthday of the Marine Corps, November 10th nationwide on PBS. And then give the October 30th what we're going to do and how can people possibly get tickets for that?
Michael Pack
Well, my social media is michaelpack on X, but I recommend they go to our websites. The one that for the last 600 meters is manifold Productions, M A N I F o L D productions.com and the one for our more recent work is Palladium Pictures, P A L L A D I u m pictures.com but you can navigate from any of them. And we have a lot of other content, including other ones about war, but about politics and history. And a lot of them are free or streaming somewhere. And I recommend them all. And we have this event on October 30th. It's at the Navy Memorial. If people want to come, they should probably reach out via our website. My wife is in charge of those invitations. And and they're going kind of fast. And maybe, Steve, it's an event you could even cover. But of course you will be there, so that'll be good. And veterans will be there, too. So it'll be a way to honor people in person. And we hope we can get Pete Hexaf or Tulsi Gabbard or someone from the Trump administration that was a veteran to come to honor these veterans that are there and sort of in advance of the anniversary of the Marine Corps.
Steve K. Bannon
And Veterans Day to the tip of the tip of the spirit. Michael Pack, thank you so much. Honor to have you on here this morning.
Michael Pack
Thank you, Steve. Great to be on your show.
Steve K. Bannon
Let's go to bo. We're going to go back to the Summit We've got some very special guests. Bo Davison is there for an interview. Bo, what do you got for us, brother?
Bo Davison
Steve, you're going to love this. We talked earlier about the generational components, the generational legacy of Moms for Liberty. And I'm joined now by Reagan and Owen. These are two junior patriots, and I just found out about this just minutes ago. But basically, they've started a pilot program for Turning Point USA for middle schoolers. So we're talking about even the generation even younger than what we see at typical Turning Point USA events, which is incredible. And they've got these Build a Bears, which we'll get to in a minute. But Owen and Reagan, I want to talk to you guys first. So, Reagan, you're the president of this new chapter.
Brian Harrison
Chapter.
Bo Davison
And then when you're the vice president. Is that right?
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
Yes.
Bo Davison
All right. So, Reagan, why did you start this?
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
Well, so I went to SAS this summer, and I met Charlie, and I, like, not hung up, hung out with him, but, like, I talked with him for, like, four days. And then I. I didn't. I brought it up to him. Why don't we start a middle school chapter? And it was like, at first, and then it was. It was like, okay, then we'll start the program and we'll try it. And so if everything goes well, then it will be open to pretty much the whole world next year. If everything goes well this year.
Bo Davison
And it's going well so far.
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
Yes, it is.
Bo Davison
And this is in Land O' Lakes, right? Land O Lakes. Okay, Owen, tell me more about it and your role as vice president.
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
Yeah, so we started me a couple, like, last week ago. We were. And we were at the me we were doing, like, just grouping up, seeing all the people who joined. And then we celebrate Charlie Kirk's birthday after. And when we post it on our Facebook and social media, it went really viral.
Bo Davison
Wow, that's incredible. Reagan, tell me about. You got to meet Charlie. You got to hang out with him for a bit. I'm so glad you got the chance to meet him. What was that like? And like, what did it mean to you now since you've been inspired to start this new chapter?
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
It was very special for me. So a fun thing was. So we were. I was listening to him speak, and then he actually signed my 4H jacket on air because it was the first time that 4H was represented at a TPUSA SAS event. And it was. It was just like my. Not mind blowing, but, like, more than that. It was like life changing for Me.
Bo Davison
It's kind of funny that you had to convince Charlie to do it, because I would think he would see this. He'd be like, yes, yes, yes, we need to do it. But thankfully, you have started it. It is a pilot program, and I want to get to these bears. So, Owen, you go to Build a bear, and everybody knows you can go build a bear, any kind you want. But these are special. These are like Charlie Kirk bears. Right? So explain that.
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
So we went there and we got bears. We found, like, a suit where he wears the. His old fans.
Bo Davison
Let's take a look at it. Go ahead.
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
And then we have his shoes, the.
Bo Davison
Red tie, the microphone, the Starbucks. Can you see the Starbucks cup? That's awesome, too. Okay, so that's your design.
Michael Pack
All right.
Bo Davison
And then some of them actually play messages. So, Reagan, you have one. If I could see it, that when you press the button on his hand. And we're going to put this as close to the mic as I can. Here's what happens.
Brian Harrison
Do it for me, Reagan. It's time that we start talking to.
Steve K. Bannon
The next generation, not talking down to the next generation.
Brian Harrison
And that's what we're doing.
Bo Davison
It's time to start talking to the next generation and not talking down to them. That's what's in there. So, Steve, you can hear that in these Build A Bears that the brilliance of this. They've not just designed the Build a Bear, they have actually put an audio recording of Charlie's voice. The level of innovation, of charisma, of leadership of these new junior patriots is blowing my mind right now. The fact that they would think to not just start the chapter, but then have this tool, this educational tool of a Build a bear.
Steve K. Bannon
Hey, Reagan, let me ask you a question, because I knew Charlie, you know, extremely well, and, you know, he was a obviously very unique guy. He followed us on Real America's Voice for four years. And knowing how Charlie thought when Charlie. Because he's always thinking about how you mitigate risk, how you do things and drive organizations. But Charlie was very thoughtful in thinking through what did you. How did you talk him into it when you originally said, I don't know, I got to think about it. What did you tell. What did you tell Charlie Kirk to sell him on the idea?
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
Well, so it was like a maybe idea at first, like I said. And then, so what happened was he was like, okay, let's do it. We'll give it a try. We'll see what happens. And so that's how it got started. And so. So Far, everything's going well. And we had our first meeting on October 14th, actually.
Steve K. Bannon
So amazing, guys. Just fantastic. How do we get. They have social media. Is there a website? Bo, where do we go to follow them?
Bo Davison
It's a good question.
Steve K. Bannon
I don't know.
Bo Davison
With junior patriots. I don't know. Do you have social media?
Reagan (Junior Patriot President)
We do. We're on Facebook and Instagram for club America. Junior patriots club.
Steve K. Bannon
Okay. They froze. Okay. Let's just make sure we get it up. Amazing talk. Talking Charlie Kirk and talking Charlie Kirk is something. Charlie was very. Had a certain way that he rolled. I just think it's great. That's one of the best stories I've heard. It's also one of the reasons I never work with kids or dogs. Right. They said they're complete. They steal the scene. No. Absolutely fantastic. And I think it's so great that they came after Michael paak and you talk about the sacrifice. And this is why I say the reason. Even as dark as you think it is the reason I think. And I said this on the Tucker interview the other night. I feel absolutely great. Because you see this younger generation, I think the young men are the most based generation in the world. And one of the reasons I said guys from 18 to 30, the reason is is what their uncles and brothers did in the Iraq and Afghan war. And you see these, you're going to see this in the last 600 meters when you can impress the force recon marines at peleliu and Tarawa. And they sit there, go, hey. What these kids did is in much more, you know, it's much more powerful than what we did because we were just clear cutting and told you don't back up an inch and anything in front of you, you're just going to get shot. These kids had to do it differently. That's passed down to America. And you see these kids right there just doing a great job. Okay, we got Harrison. A lot of news report out of Texas. We're going to get to it. We're going to take a short commercial break. Want to make sure everybody birch gold. Take your phone out right now. With gold blowing through 4300 bucks. It's time. I think that you need to know the process. It ain't the price of gold. It's how it got there. And remember the big, single biggest change, it went from a hedge, which we've talked to folks about how it's been a hedge for 5,000 years. Something's changed. As Philip Patrick and the team has walked you through it's now becoming a central asset like back in the 19th century of money center banks are particularly central banks as they think through fiat currency. Make sure you understand it. Birchgold.com promo code war room or promo code bandit. I guess in this regard you get access to that in Philip Patriot theme or take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. You get the free and ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Do not forget silver. Short break, back in a moment.
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Steve K. Bannon
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, welcome back. I want to thank our production team, everybody working in Denver today. Also my production team here on the road in, in Texas. Just a great job juggling things. Of course we're going to be tossing to Amanda Head and the team out in Camp Pendleton. So today across the country doing all this live and I want to thank Harry and the team at, at the summit just doing an incredible job. The reason I wanted to come down here, I felt I needed to come down here to Texas all the great, you know, sponsorship we have the Texas people and we have a huge audience in Texas. And every time we've asked them to do something, whether it's fight to the in the Paxton impeachment effort or recently in the redistrict which would not gotten done without this audience. And really putting your shoulder to will with the other grassroots Texas is under people understand the centrality of Texas in American history, in American culture, in American mythology. Remember John Ford said when, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend, right? Texas, Texas is known all over the world, right. Not just for westerns. But for this ethos of what Texas is about, it's the reason that Texas is a target. Now. We just had this antifa thing John Solomon talked about. I want to talk to you about that. Internationally they're coming, but also internally we, we make a big deal here, how we thwarted. Because when I was at Breitbart, it was, you know, source is coming to Texas putting $300 million. You got, you got a bait, what Beta O' Rourke and all these folks. And we said we beat that back. But in the process I learned in beating it back there was something deeper than just Soros. We have a problem that's deeper than just Soros's money. We have a culture and there's no place in this country with a bigger divide between the MAGA grassroots populist nationalist base and the political culture. Not even just the politicians, a political culture. So walk me through that first. And I want to get to the Zantifa.
Brian Harrison
Well, something I know you and I have spoken about many times, Steve, and the posse gets this. I mean we, we need to never lose sight of what time it is in America right now. We're in a battle for nothing less than the future of western civilization. And I firmly believe, as goes Texas, so goes the nation. As goes the nation, so goes the world. And even though the state of Texas you talk about the divide between sort of the rhino weak liberal establishment and sort of the Trump supporting conservative, the pro liberty base voters of Texas, it's just as big a divide between the perception of Texas. You know, people believe Texas is the number one state for liberty, freedom, low taxes, low regulation, small government, prosperity. But the reality is we've just been coasting on that reputation. Even though Texas isn't talked about as a battleground state politically very often, make no mistake about this, I firmly believe Texas is the crown jewel in the less planned to conquer our nation. If we lose the state of Texas, we'll never have a conservative Republican in the White House. And in Texas, voters got to know this. We're not always going to have a bold strong president like Donald Trump in the White House. And it's going to be incumbent on the big states to hold our country together. Especially the next time we have some leftist progressive in the White House like Joe Biden who was, you know, undermining law enforcement, throwing the border wide open to bring in 10, 20 million illegals and, and terrorists and drug cartels and everything else. So Texas is the line of the same. It's a straight line, but from Texas to the Future of our country and the future of Western civilization. And we've got a weak establishment, liberal sort of core body of people that have been controlling this state for a generation now, too long if you ask me. And they're totally lost touch with the Texans and with our ethos. Rugged individualism, self reliance, freedom, liberty. These are the principles. They made our state and our country great. But, but far too often establishment weak Republicans are selling out the voters of the state of Texas. And in doing so, they're selling out the future of our country.
Steve K. Bannon
No, this is why it's more insidious than just, you know, the money of Soros and Soros's kids in these left wing groups.
Brian Harrison
Right.
Steve K. Bannon
Because you can kind of see that coming. But to know that they already really control the school system here, that it's not an independent school system. You got the teacher juniors who are some of the worst you've got. This infection has hit the, you know, people in Texas are so proud of the University of Texas system, Texas A and M system, Texas Tech and the private schools. And you see that this cultural Marxism is so deeply embedded. All the work that you guys have done and still they're doing. And only if you add them, only if you go in and say and show video of these professors. But that's just the surface of it. It's a systemic problem, right?
Brian Harrison
I mean, why does it, it take people like me going on shows like War Room and showing undercover video and audio of leftist progressives who have been put in charge of our most cherished institutions like my alma mater, Texas A and M. But I mean, here's the bigger question. Why the hell are leftist progressives being put in charge of anything in the Texas government? It's absolutely outrageous. So not only are we not this low tax state like people think, I mean, highest effective property tax rate in the country. I have people in my office, Steve, all the time in tears. They don't know how they're gonna be able to stay in their homes and their property that have been in the family for generations have paid for and for what? So the Texas government can fund. But what's basically that the Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, agenda of DEI and transgender indoctrination. Hell, we give it $1.5 billion. We voted this just this last session to liberal Hollywood. I mean, the worst type of crony corporatism and corporate welfare is going on down here in the state of Texas. Taxpayers are being forced to fund the indoctrination of the, of the next generation, all at a time when education rates are plummeting and we've got to, we've got, you know, people got to take their heads out of the stand. And unlike in D.C. where sort of the teams identify themselves, you know, radical Democrats, left wing media in Texas, people think if an elected official calls themselves a Republican that they support President Trump, they support the principles of our founding, they support freedom, liberty. And the reality is I've never seen anything as undermined, as duplicitous, as dishonest as elected Republicans who campaign saying, all vote for me. I'll stand up to the radical left. I'll fight the Democrats. But then when nobody's looking under the pink dome in the Capitol of Austin, they vote to empower those very Democrats and collude with them to destroy liberty in our great state.
Steve K. Bannon
Brian had one of the most powerful jobs in the first term, which is chief of staff over at hhs because that's such a behemoth. One lesson we've learned here in the war room in Texas, if you expose it, people jump on and go, no, that's not going to happen. We've had huge victories. It all comes from the same thing, getting information out to the, to the Texas grassroots. Once you get them on something, they can't be stopped, they can't be beaten. And the establishment in the state knows this and the left knows this. I've asked Brian to stick around for the top of the next hour. We're also going back to, we're going to go back to the summit. Hopefully Lee's here. She's out door knocking today, as every candidate should do, trying to get Lee. And then obviously we're going to do a transition to Amanda head and Marine Corps 250 live all day today, all afternoon today from Camp Pendleton, California, where the Marines are going to show you what an amphibious assault looks like. I think a couple, three things will be blowing up today. So if you want action, stick around on Real America's Voice. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Make sure take your phone out for our sponsor Birchgold958Bannon. B A N N O N.958No, no, Birchgold at 989-898 text that right now. You get access to Philip Patrick and the team in the ultimate guide for investing in Gold and Precious Metals in the Age of Trump. Do not forget silver. That's where we wrote it up for both. See you back here in a moment.
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Host: Stephen K. Bannon
This episode of “The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon” takes listeners deep into the heart of grassroots conservative activism, focusing especially on education, parental rights, and American military heroism. Broadcasting from Texas, Bannon features prominent guests, including Texas State Representative Brian Harrison, Moms for Liberty co-founder Tina Deskovich, filmmaker Michael Pack, and more. The show covers highlights from the Moms for Liberty Summit in Orlando, commemorates the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Marine Corps, and explores the challenges and opportunities facing Texas as a linchpin in America's cultural and political landscape.
Guests: Tina Deskovich (Moms for Liberty), Bo Davison (new father, RAV contributor)
Segment Start: [02:45]
Summit Energy & Purpose:
Tina Deskovich describes a vibrant, emotional atmosphere, with multi-generational involvement:
“It’s been such a powerful morning…seeing the future of America here with Moms for Liberty this year has been very moving and remarkable.” ([02:45])
Benny Johnson and Terry Schilling’s “dad’s panel” heats up the crowd, and parents are celebrated for their activism.
Mission & Impact:
The group’s original mission—winning over 200 school board seats in its first year—caught teachers' unions by surprise.
“They were panicked. They’ve had such a stronghold on education for decades…Moms for Liberty comes on stage. We’re like, oh, not anymore. Parents are taking this back.” ([04:39])
Deskovich emphasizes empowering parents with practical tools (e.g., reading instruction methods, opt-out forms).
“Number one question when you walk in: are you teaching phonics?...You can see the questions that you should ask the teachers and the school…” ([06:37])
Dads for Liberty:
Call to Action:
"You can be a dad and be a member too. You don’t have to just be a mom." ([08:05])
Guest: Brian Harrison (TX State Rep.)
Segment Start: [09:27]
Comparing Texas and Florida:
Harrison admits Florida is ahead on school choice and fighting unions.
“Florida is just straight up kicking our butts.” ([09:27])
Texas recently passed a $10B bill supporting teacher unions; its school choice measures reach only 1% of parents.
Dire Stats:
“Only 24% of Texas 8th graders are proficient in reading. Full stop… Only 23% are proficient in math.” ([11:10])
Taxpayer-Funded Lobbying:
"They take this taxpayer money and then they weaponize it against conservatives values, against their beliefs, against their children…” ([12:06])
Call for Action:
Appeals for stronger grassroots involvement, urging parents to run for school boards and lobby for funding reforms.
“The most important, most impactful office…in America today is your local school board.” ([13:21])
Bannon summarizes:
“You’re paying for your own demise…We're funding the very destruction of the next generation.” ([13:57])
Guests: Michael Pack (Filmmaker), Cpl. Jesse Grapes, 1st Sgt. Brad Castle
Segment Start: [16:36]
Real Heroism in Urban Warfare:
Recounts harrowing battles faced by U.S. Marines in Iraq, especially Fallujah, through first-person testimony.
“They have to sort things out that they would never have been able to do at 17. And they were really amazed by their courage and by the sophistication required of these young men and women.” (Michael Pack, [31:25])
Describes near-impossible choices and the “meat grinder” of urban counter-insurgency.
"We don't really sugarcoat these battles. They were horrible meat grinders..." (Michael Pack, [21:41])
Film’s Significance:
"The Last 600 Meters," completed in 2008 but suppressed from broadcast for years, now set for national airing on PBS:
"I'm glad that you're doing it. Whatever you think of the war, these young men and women risked their lives for us." (Michael Pack, [24:55])
Live screening scheduled October 30 in Washington, D.C.; PBS premiere on Nov 10th, the Marine Corps’ birthday.
Guests: Junior Patriots Reagan (President), Owen (Vice President)
Segment Start: [34:53]
Reagan and Owen lead a pilot TPUSA middle school “junior patriots” chapter; their innovation includes custom “Charlie Kirk Build-a-Bears” with recorded inspirational audio.
“It’s time to start talking to the next generation and not talking down to them. That’s what’s in there…” (Bo Davison, [38:05])
Their initiative won Charlie Kirk’s backing, generating viral attention and highlighting youth originality in conservative spaces.
Analysis with: Steve Bannon & Brian Harrison
Segment Start: [43:33]
Texas as the “Crown Jewel”:
“Even though Texas isn’t talked about as a battleground state…Texas is the crown jewel in the left’s plan to conquer our nation.” (Brian Harrison, [45:42])
Institutional Capture:
“Why the hell are leftist progressives being put in charge of anything in the Texas government?” (Brian Harrison, [48:18])
Tina Deskovich on Parental Empowerment:
"Ultimately, we’re here to educate and empower, to give parents the tools they need to go back in their communities to save not only our country, but...Western civilization." ([03:39])
Brian Harrison on the State of Texas Education:
“Only 24% of Texas 8th graders are proficient in reading. Full stop.” ([11:10])
Michael Pack on Frontline Courage:
“Imagine going into Hell house where your fellow Marines are pinned and taking your Kevlar and armor off to go in.” ([23:16])
Junior Patriot Reagan, on Meeting Charlie Kirk:
“He actually signed my 4H jacket on air because it was the first time that 4H was represented at a TPUSA SAS event…and it was just…life changing for me.” ([36:44])
Steve Bannon on Texas’ Legendary Role:
“Texas is known all over the world…Not just for westerns. But for this ethos of what Texas is about…that’s the reason that Texas is a target.” ([43:33])
The episode is uncompromising, passionate, and urgent—a blend of grassroots activism, institutional critique, and reverence for American ideals and sacrifice. Bannon, in his inimitable style, frames the struggle as existential—against not just “the left” but an entrenched establishment within Texas and the broader American system. Inspiring and occasionally confrontational, the episode calls listeners to vigilance, involvement, and pride in American and Texan heritage, while celebrating parents, youth activists, and military heroes alike.
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