THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4875)

Summary

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THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON — EP. 4875 (October 24, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this episode of "War Room" with Stephen K. Bannon, the panel tackles the current state of American democracy, focusing on explosive allegations around the weaponization of government agencies, election integrity, and the so-called "deep state" operations following the Trump administration. Bannon is joined by guests including Mike Davis (known as the “Viceroy” and former Grassley aide), an Economic Analyst, Rodney Williams, and Jeannie Siever (Moms Against Gambling). The episode also covers pressing economic news, the ongoing NBA betting scandal, and the societal impacts of legalized gambling. The panel consistently frames the discussion as a fight for the nation's survival, frequently alluding to history, media manipulation, and urgent calls to action for their audience.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Alleged Weaponization of Government Agencies & Election Integrity

Deep State, Arctic Frost, and “Lawfare Democrats”

• Stephen Bannon and Mike Davis discuss recent revelations involving "Arctic Frost," an FBI operation allegedly used to target Trump allies and Republican senators under the guise of investigating election objections.
  • Bannon frames this as "one of the biggest scandals in American history" [13:55].
  • Davis claims that "Democrats, the Biden administration used President Trump's challenge of the 2020 election as a predicate to open up a crime," alleging illegal surveillance on nine sitting U.S. senators [15:38].
• Davis further asserts: "It is not a crime to object to a presidential election...If it were a crime, you would see Democrats in prison for objecting to Republican wins and Democrat losses in 1968, 2000, 2004, and 2016" [14:53].
• Bannon emphasizes the scale, describing the efforts as a "maximalist strategy" to dismantle the deep state in response [16:38].
• Economic Analyst underscores the narrative, positioning the 2016 Trump win as a "glitch in the Matrix" for the establishment, with subsequent events described as a "coup" and “the COVID up” via Arctic Frost [40:23].

Grand Jury Secrecy and DOJ Procedures

• Discussion referenced Jack Smith, the Special Counsel, and legal maneuvers to protect grand jury secrecy, suggesting attempts to “trap” him into subpoenaed testimony that would force him to reveal confidential investigation details [05:02].
• Bannon argues for transparency: "Why are they so scared to show their work?...It was clearly rigged and stolen" [13:55].

Selective Prosecution and Staffing:

• Panel criticizes DOJ appointees (e.g., Heather Honey, Letitia James), characterizing them as unqualified and chosen for willingness to forward “election denier” narratives [03:02].
• Bannon: "More than anything else, Donald Trump was running to finish the job he started on January 6" [06:50].

2. Economic Commentary

Inflation, Market Reaction, and Trump-era Policy

• Bannon and an Economic Analyst analyze new consumer price index (CPI) data showing inflation coming in below expectations [09:29].
• Bannon: "Donald Trump's economic plan appears...to be working because the math is working" [12:02].
• Discussion centers on real wages being up and the positive market reaction, noting how lower inflation may prompt future Fed rate cuts [09:51].
• The Analyst tempers the celebration: "Santelli said labor markets are cooling a little bit, and that's good news for a rate cut. I don't think it's good news. That's the American worker..." [31:43].

3. Media, Tech, and Information Suppression

• Bannon and Brett allege “big tech” censorship, specifically Google and Wikipedia, suppressing discussion about Arctic Frost and other deep state investigations [43:18].
• Bannon: "Tech oligarchs, the prologar, are not our friends here. You go online, you virtually can't find anything about it. It's crickets" [43:18].
• Economic Analyst argues mainstream media is complicit: “All the oligarchs are progressive Democrats...as soon as President Trump exits, they're back to the progressive Democrats” [43:18].

4. Reaction to Mainstream Media and Public Messaging

• The panel repeatedly returns to the idea that the mainstream media, especially MSNBC and CNN, are “vapor locked” and “going crazy” over these investigations and over what the War Room considers the truth about election integrity and justice system weaponization [12:02, 44:40].
• Davis: “If they’ve done nothing wrong, they shouldn’t be concerned about showing their work. But they’re freaking out” [26:41].

5. The NBA Gambling Scandal & Gambling Addiction

Breakdown of the Scandal

• Discussion shifts to rampant legalized sports betting and its impact on sports integrity, focusing on a recent NBA scandal where a player deliberately underperformed to exploit “prop bet” markets [46:20].
• Bannon: "This is something far darker...they're betting on every action on the field" [56:31].
• Jeannie Siever (Moms Against Gambling) warns of a coming epidemic of gambling addiction linked to online and mobile sports betting, referencing, "One out of five that become addicted to gambling...attempt suicide" [49:08, 58:59].
• Siever urges parents to monitor children’s devices for gambling apps [60:54], highlighting only three rehab facilities in the nation are dedicated to gambling addiction [62:00].

Societal & Moral Concerns

• Panel consensus is that gambling is predatory, disproportionately harming the poor and youth, and likened to an upcoming opioid-level public health crisis [49:08, 63:44].
• Bannon: "It's not betting like we've done for years. This is something far darker" [56:31].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon (on investigations into election integrity):
  "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies ‘cause we’re going medieval on these people." [10:30]
• Mike Davis:
  "It is not a crime to object to a presidential election...it’s only a crime...in a third World Marxist hellhole." [14:53]
• On Arctic Frost’s significance:
  “It took a whistleblower at the FBI...They had buried this so deep...about the nine senators basically being wiretapped by Biden’s regime." [23:24]
• Economic Analyst:
  "There was a major glitch in the Matrix and that glitch was President Donald J. Trump in 2016. The crime is to run a coup and take out a president...Operation Arctic Frost is the coverup of that crime." [40:23]
• On Gambling Crisis
  "One out of five that become addicted to gambling, Steve, attempt suicide. That is factual.” – Jeannie Siever [49:08]
  "There are three rehab facilities in our nation. That’s it. Three that are specifically targeted to help the gambling addicts." – Jeannie Siever [62:00]
• Bannon (moral imperative):
  "Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved." [10:30]
• Davis (on consequences):
  "When you steal elections, you rig and steal elections and then you try to throw your political enemies in prison for non-crimes, you're going to destroy our country." [28:24]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic / Segment | | ----------- | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 03:02-06:42 | Panel on election deniers in positions of government authority | | 05:02-05:56 | Discussion of DOJ grand jury secrecy and Jack Smith's legal strategy | | 09:29-10:30 | Market/economic update: CPI numbers, Fed policy, Trump economic narrative | | 12:02-16:38 | Arctic Frost revelations; deep state strategies; setup for Grassley memo and wiretapping allegations| | 23:24-28:24 | Details on Arctic Frost, whistleblower, and scale of DOJ/FBI surveillance | | 31:43-32:31 | Economic Analyst on labor markets, rate cuts, and U.S. working class | | 40:23-44:40 | "Glitch in the Matrix," operation breakdown, media suppression, big tech’s role | | 46:20-51:35 | NBA gambling scandal, predatory nature of current sports betting, interviews with Jeannie Siever | | 56:31-63:46 | Risks of legalized gambling, the addiction epidemic, and practical advice to parents | | 58:59-62:00 | Siever: gambling addiction stats, crisis resource gaps |

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Conclusion

This episode is characterized by urgency and alarm: the panel repeatedly asserts that the current moment is a pivotal fight for the country's soul, whether about alleged corruption within the government or the cultural crisis posed by exploding gambling addiction. The show delivers a blend of political analysis, economic commentary, and cultural critique, underpinned by a populist, anti-establishment tone — and frequent calls to action for the audience.

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For more details or resources on these topics (especially gambling addiction), Jeannie Siever directs listeners to www.momsagainstgambling.com and their X and Facebook communities.

Transcript

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The last presidential election, President Trump and many of his closest allies still are not over his loss in 2020, and they continue to peddle lies about a stolen election.

[Steve K. Bannon]

The New York Times reports Trump has.

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Empowered election deniers by placing them in high level official administration jobs.

[Jeannie Siever]

The nightcap is still here.

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What could the midterms look like with actual election deniers in serious jobs?

[Steve K. Bannon]

So look, I mean, going to the way the administration staffed up during the transition, and even if you want to go back before that to who ended up on the Trump campaign, who got the plush jobs with the PACs, in this case, being pro January 6th and being an election denier helps you on the resume doesn't hurt you. And that's what they are selecting for.

[Economic Analyst]

And filtering against when they have all.

[Steve K. Bannon]

These, you know, personnel fights. So look, I think that this is the key thing to understanding who survived with Trump. But also if you look at who gained power between 2021 and like 2023, it's the folks who are the most willing to take that on the chin when it was the least popular.

[Jeannie Siever]

Okay, but Fox and other outlets were.

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Sued for spreading falsehoods about voting machines.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Rigging ballots in 2020.

[Jeannie Siever]

They had to pay an enormous amount of money.

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New reporting tonight on how Donald Trump and his enablers are hijacking the machinery of democracy to enact his retribution campaign. Reuters has uncovered a wide ranging group of Trump lackeys whose main purpose is to weed out the mythical deep state from within the federal government. It would be laughable if it were not true that this was actually happening. This so called weaponization working group includes resources from the White House and at least eight other agencies, including the irs, CIA and the Defense Department. And as former and current officials face increasing danger from the President and his administration, his outspoken critics are starting to wonder, will I be next?

[Jeannie Siever]

This letter from Jack Smith that jumped out at me.

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But specifically this piece about the secrecy of grand jury materials his lawyers write. Smith is prepared to answer questions about the special counsel's investigation and prosecution, but requires assurance from the Department of Justice that he will not be punished for doing so. To that end, Mr. Smith needs guidance from the Department of Justice regarding federal grand jury secrecy requirements. Talk to me about the criminal exposure, the danger for a prosecutor in not having that be clarified.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Yeah, well, Jack Smith and his lawyers are being very smart here because arguably the Republicans in Congress and in the White House and DOJ are trying to set up a pincer move where if he is called upon to testify and has to answer questions. The only way that he can answer honestly is by divulging grand jury material, which, as we've talked about previously, is typically stuff that can't be disclosed. I think what's important to remember here is, you know, Jack Smith is, you know, we mostly see him through still images and prepared remarks. But I really encourage people to watch his interview from a few days ago with Andrew Weissman. Extraordinarily articulate, extraordinarily knowledgeable about DOJ procedures here, including these procedures about grand jury secrecy. And that really stands in contrast to the folks that he's going to be testifying in front of. You know, I've actually testified in front of Jim Jordan. You know, I guess, you know, he is not a particularly good questioner.

[Economic Analyst]

He's going to talk very quickly, he's.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Going to say a lot of things, but he really doesn't know the materials the way that Smith does.

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Adam Schiff's attorney called the investigation transparently vindictive.

[Jeannie Siever]

If he's indicted, are there strong grounds to toss this case? Well, there are.

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This will be round two of the Jim Comey case, also similar to the.

[Jeannie Siever]

Prosecution of Letitia James, because what makes.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Those cases so stunning is that they.

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Were indicted after experienced career prosecutors declined.

[Steve K. Bannon]

To indict the cases.

[Jeannie Siever]

And Donald Trump was forced to drop in, of course, his own choice for that office, someone with no experience who was willing to forward to indict Senator Schiff after experienced career folks in the Maryland U.S. attorney's office say no, would.

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Be tantamount to acknowledging that this is.

[Jeannie Siever]

A selective, vindictive prosecution.

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And now you've got a new deputy assistant secretary for election integrity pushing the very same lies.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Yeah, I mean, I think they're not probably going to have to deal with a lawsuit. But I mean, this is, to Jake's point, I think it is kind of defining. Right. Like my line about the 2024 campaign is that more than anything else, Donald Trump was running to finish the job he started on January six. And I think that's really the fundamental way of understanding the second term. Yeah. And what they did with January6, the whole plot, they identified the vulnerabilities and the systems. Right. And then you put these people in place.

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Right.

[Steve K. Bannon]

So now with, with Heather Honey, it's this up. Right.

[Rodney Williams]

You have someone now, if there were.

[Steve K. Bannon]

To be some claim this is the.

[Jeannie Siever]

Agency that is meant to protect all of cybersecurity infrastructure.

[Rodney Williams]

Yeah, that's the worst part. Possible person to put there.

[Steve K. Bannon]

She had no political History before.

[Economic Analyst]

Yeah.

[Steve K. Bannon]

And now she's there. And if basically, if there were to be some claims of voter fraud, you'd wonder what she would say.

[Rodney Williams]

She was trying to say that they would declare an emergency and mandate states.

[Steve K. Bannon]

To do certain things which I think.

[Rodney Williams]

Would be blocked by the courts.

[Steve K. Bannon]

But my main thing that I've really.

[Rodney Williams]

Been thinking about is how we might.

[Steve K. Bannon]

In Hindsight, see the 2022 midterms as.

[Rodney Williams]

One of the most important elections in recent history.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Because all of those battleground states. Oh, no, 2022.

[Economic Analyst]

Okay.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

2022.

[Rodney Williams]

Because all of those battleground states we saw election deniers lost.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Remember, that was a big election. And now all of these key states are run by Democrats. Yeah, yeah. All of them.

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Right.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Whereas now, if we were in this position where in Jersey it went, you know, I think with Dan McCormick.

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Right.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Yeah.

[Rodney Williams]

And these other states, if it was.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Run by Republicans, Kerry Lake. Right.

[Rodney Williams]

Where would he be? Who would they be obeying those mandates?

[Steve K. Bannon]

And now, because those are all going.

[Rodney Williams]

To be run by Democrats, there'll be.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Bulwarks against potential efforts in 2026. So that gives me a little bit of hope. You know, throw a little bit of opium out there.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Excited isn't the word. The market should be excited, too. Here's our late but coming out September, read on. The Consumer Price index headline number up 3 10, 1 10. Cooler than both rearview mirror and what we were expecting. And if we look at the stripping out of food and energy known as core, it comes in also a bit less than expected. Up 2.

[Economic Analyst]

10.

[Steve K. Bannon]

We're expecting up 3 10. Our last look was up 3 10. Here's the money ball numbers year over year, 3%. And even though it's less than the 3.1 we were expecting, it's 102.9. And after all it's got a three handle. And if we look at CPI year over year ex food and energy, it also comes in at 3%. We're also expecting 3.1, but last look was 3.1. So it cooled a bit. So we're seeing interest rates move down and stocks move up. You may be asking why? Easy answer. Because it's less than expectations. Is it less than the Fed's target of 2%?

[Rodney Williams]

No.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Which in my opinion that fact will rise above all the issues of the day at some point. But yes, we do see rates moving a bit lower. Ultimately, this is a very important number because the market, without any data points, has been pretty much viewed on the notion that the labor market is slowing. And that really is a good thing if you're looking for the Fed cycle to continue its rate cuts. Now, how does this figure in? I can't speak for Fed officials, but if you really have an agnostic view and you look at these numbers, the last thing you think about is we're closing in on the Fed's target. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies cuz we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

It's Friday the 24th of October in the Overlord 2025. I've got Dave Brett riding shotgun with me today, wearing his doctorate in economy economics because inflation came in below expectations, heading towards the below 3, heading towards the the 2% inflation target of the Fed and real wages are up. Donald Trump's economic plan appears, at least to the markets, to be Working because the math is working. I get bread in here in a moment, all of that. And that was a magnificent cold open cut over the last from material over the last couple of days by the Denver Raft team and of course our war room producers here at the War Room. Just magnificent. I want to bring in the Viceroy, Mike Davis. So I wanted to start, I wanted to start with Arctic Frost and what your old boss Grassley dropped the bomb on, on, on this, on Lisa Monaco, Chris Wray and Merrick Garland. But I, I've got to ask you about that cold open mike Viceroy during total complete meltdown from everything we're trying to sort out these elections to. You've got a team going through the 2020 elections also people are trying to weed out the weaponization of government. MSNBC and CNN are kind of vapor locked. They have little, very little time. President's leaving today for an extended trip to Asia. We're going to have Thayer and Captain for now all of us on talk about that, about the high stakes with the Chinese Communist Party and Asia as the war in Ukraine heats up as it looks like we're getting ready for kinetic activity in Venezuela, Marco Rubio's in in Israel. Everything geopolitically is going on, but the mainstream media, particularly msnbc, is vapor locked over kind of the plan of the Viceroy. What's going on? What are they complaining about, sir?

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Well, I would say this to these Democrats. If the 2020 election was so clean, why are they so scared to show their work? Why are they freaking out about opening up the hood and taking a look at the 2020 election? And we all, we all know the answer. It was clearly rigged and stolen. They used Covid as an excuse to illegally, unconstitutionally mass mail ballots out to old voter list, including college students who move and these ballots pile up at these apartment complexes. And how do you prevent a fraudulent mail ballot? You look at signature verification. But somehow Covid changed our signature and they turned signature verification down to meaningless. And so of course they stole the election. They know it's, they know they're going to get caught. It's the, it's one of the biggest scandals in American history that you can rig and steal an election. They also know that they're getting caught on this law fair, this criminal conspiracy against rights under 18 USC section 241. My old boss Chuck Grassley found a pretty damning memo from former FBI Director Chris Wray to Attorney General Merrick Garland through Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco, who's the worst actor of them all. Lisa Monaco. But this memo authorized Arctic Frost. And let's just explain to your listeners and viewers what Arctic Frost is. Democrats, the Biden administration used President Trump's challenge of the 2020 election as a predicate to open up a crime. And again, I keep saying this on your show. It is not a crime to object to a presidential election. It's only a crime to object to a presidential election and a third World Marxist hellhole. If it were a crime to object to a presidential election, you would see Democrats in prison for objecting to Republican wins and Democrat losses in 1968, 2000, 2004 and 2016. And so it there's clearly not a crime here. But what the Biden Justice Department did was used Arctic Frost to spy on and try to imprison President Trump, his top aides, his allies, and even his allies in the United States Senate. And the fact that they spied on nine US Senators. It finally got the Senate's attention after four years.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Viceroy, can you hang on one second? I just want to draw. I know you got to bounce. You're traveling today. I just got a few more questions about this to make sure the audience understands. You know, we've talked. I gave that speech or that talk, those remarks at Charlie Kirk Student Action Summit about taking on the deep state and the urgency, how we had to have a maximalist strategy to take it apart. Things are happening, things are rolling and rolling hard. You've got grand juries, you have people that are taking apart the weaponization. You now have this new front open up by Senator Grassley and Arctic Frost. All of it. So a lot going on. The Viceroy is going to stick around. Get Dave Brad packed show today. Gold back up at 4,100 times are turbulent. The world economy is turbulent. President Trump's going for a massive, massive, massive negotiation with xi. They're going to take place in South Korea. Short break, back in a month.

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Make sure Talk to Philip Patrick. Philip Patrick is going to be with us on the Saturday morning show to talk about a very turbulent week. Make sure you get to him. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Most importantly, the handbook's fantastic and it's free. But most importantly, get access to Philip Patrick's team at Birchgold. Make sure you check it out and check it out today. Mike Davis and people should know the Viceroy is a, I think, I would say a sage and major advisor to the entire administration. So you have I just want the audience to take away from this morning. There are multiple fronts in which major action is taking from from federal grand juries to people working on tiger teams or task force inside the government about taking down the deep state or de weaponizing the deep state. To Heather Honey and others now coming in to look at the mechanics of the elections and people starting to actually get down and start to look at adjudicating the 2020 election. On all that, one of the most explosive was I just want to go back and make sure everybody understands the scale of this because it took a whistleblower at the FBI. They had buried this so deep that Cash Patel, the director and Dan Bongino the deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, could not find this. I want everybody to embrace that. Could not find this. It took a whistleblower to come forward about the senators, about the nine senators basically being wiretapped, let's call it what it is, wiretapped by Biden's, by Biden's regime. I want to, I want to say, how big was this memo? Now they've unearthed this memo, kind of setting up Arctic Frost. How big is this? How's it tied to the senators? And where do you think this goes? Grassley. And people got to remember Grassley ain't a lawyer. He's an Iowa farmer. He's, he's tough as boot leather and he's like a dog with a bone against these investigations. Mike Davis, the Viceroy, your thoughts?

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

I would say this is the biggest mistake that these lawfare Democrats made, that you didn't hear senators complain too much when the Biden Justice Department, the Obama Justice Department, spied on presidential candidate Donald Trump, spied on him when he was the President of the United States, indicted him, went after his top aides like you and Peter Navarro and Jeff Clark and so many others. It wasn't until the welfare Democrats went after these U.S. senators that they really got into hot water here. And I say this, presidents come and go. Senators last for decades, right? And so this was a huge tactical mistake by these lawfare Democrats. It finally got the senators attention. You're hearing senators who I didn't hear say very much about this unprecedented Republican in lawfare over the last eight years. They're suddenly very interested and very outraged. And so a big mistake by these lawfare Democrats. Merrick Garlands, Lisa Monaco, Chris Ray, Jack Smith, Jay Bratt, so many of these bad actors. I, I would also take note of a, a new court order, I think people miss down in the Southern District of Florida where the new Trump U.S. attorney in Miami, Jason Redding Quinones, one of my good friends, opened up a special grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, and that's going to get and paneled sometime in early January. So I would watch out for what's happening down in the Southern District of Florida. We've been calling for a, an investigation under 18 USC section 2,241 conspiracy against rights for over three years on this show, Steve Bannon, since the Mar A Lago raid. And maybe, just maybe that's going to happen.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Mike. The other thing they're going crazy about is this effort to go after the deep state and start to take apart the weaponization and using Teams put together from inside the government. I mean, obviously it would come from inside the government. What is their complaint? I don't understand the grounds of their complaint on this. To look at the deep state and the deep state actors, they're going absolutely crazy on this topic. Your thoughts?

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Yeah. Think about it. If this were a corporation and you have the executives of the corporation going bonkers because the board of directors of the corporation wants to do an audit of the books and the executives are going crazy, you can't do it on the books. And you have to ask why not? Why, why can't you make these government officials show their work on the 2020 election? Why can't you make these government officials show their work on what they did to investigate their political enemies going back to the Russian collusion hoax? If they, if they've done nothing wrong, they shouldn't be concerned about showing their work. But they're freaking out. So maybe that's a good indication that Trump and his team are over the target and they've actually done something very bad with the 2020 election. These Democrat operatives that they've, maybe they've done something very bad with this lawfare against President Trump as top aides, his allies, his supporters on January six, parents, Christians, maybe, maybe they know they're going to get caught and that's why they're freaking out.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Before I let you go, you know, Pam Bonney gave a great answer yesterday when they had that the task force kind of up there about doing this. And Pam, they asked Pam about grand jury and she says, look, I can't talk about the grand juries, but there's a lot of grand juries going on. And I think Pam Bondi's response is absolutely correct response. But before I let you go, Viceroy, just give me 60 seconds on Lisa Monaco and why Lisa Monaco. When all is said and done, Lisa Monaco's name is going to be emblazoned in American, in infamy, in American history, sir.

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Yeah, she's the, she was the deputy Attorney general under Joe Biden. She was the person who ran the day to day of the Biden Justice Department. Merrick Garland was this aloof former judge who was kind of a figurehead of the Justice Department. He was still a bad actor, but it was really Lisa Monaco as the dag, the deputy Attorney general who ran the day to day of this lawfare. She was very close to Obama. She was an Obama plant. And she's, she's not going to look good when these investigations conclude. And I want to, I just Want to remind your the war room posse if we did not have Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and FBI Director Cash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino and Harmeet Dylan as the head of the Civil Rights division and Jason Redding quinones as the U.S. attorney and Miami and Judge Jeanine Pirro in D.C. if we did Tulsi Gabbard, if we didn't have these bold and fearless Devin Nunez who's running Trump's intel board, if we didn't have these bold and fearless picks and this second term, none of this would have come out. These we saw in the first term with the people like Bill Barr who covered up this, these biggest scandals in American history, refused to investigate the election, refused to look at Russian collusion hoax. We have bold and fearless leaders in President Trump's second term and they are, they are absolutely going to get to the bottom of this and they're absolutely going to bring accountability as I've said for the last three years on your show and I'm going to make damn sure that happens in the, in the four years of the second Trump term. We have to have accountability for what happens so this never happens again. These are republic ending tactics. When you steal elections, you rig and steal elections and then you try to throw your political enemies in prison for non crimes, you're going to destroy our country. And so there has to be the most severe legal, political and financial consequences. I have not been trolling about this for the last three years. I am deadly serious about this and I'm going to make damn sure these lawfare Democrats go to prison.

[Steve K. Bannon]

I think it's just dawn on these folks in the last week that we are dead serious and this is a maybe the highest priority. Mike Davis Article 3 your social media and Article 3 where do people go?

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Article 3 project.org Article number 3 project.org Follow us on social media donate but only what you can afford. But as everyone knows, the war room posse's superpower is action, action, action. And thank you Steve and thank you to your war room posse.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Thank you brother. Appreciate you Dave. Brett Wall street was not some markets on fire. Wall street was not expecting this news. In fact they were all saying yesterday it's going to be above 33. I mean they're getting ready to dance on Trump's grave investment. They got Trump invested in their gun sites. Give me, give me, give me a minute on this for we go to break the numbers today.

[Economic Analyst]

Yeah, well markets are up again. Inflation came in cooler than anticipated. That's the short run. As Rick Santelli said, the 2% target is the bottom line ultimately. And President Trump is busy running the world and they forget to remind everybody that BIDEN we had 20% inflation for four years. So he's, he's working on it, but the Federal Reserve is in charge of it. We're still making up for the 2008 crisis and digging our way out of this debt hole and inflation mess. But today we got a hair of good news. Santelli said labor markets are cooling a little bit and that's good news for a rate cut. I don't think it's good news. I hate hearing people phrase it that way. That's the American, American worker. So we got to get to Rick on that one.

[Steve K. Bannon]

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[Rodney Williams]

And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle, and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Okay, you've got these. You got that dog fight. Down in Texas in Tarrant County, Lee Wambsgans, who used to be the comms director for the political side of Patriot Mobile, now in a tough fight against Chinese money, money that comes from the biggest from Macau, right? The money laundering and child trafficking center of the universe. Reason child trafficking is that as you know, President Trump's going to be meeting with the Chinese Communist Party. They slaughtered forced abortions, 450 million forced abortions. Think about that for a second. Think about a government that would do that to their people. And 80% of those are little baby girls slaughtered. That's why they have a huge societal problem with young men because there's just not enough women. So what they do, they traffic them in from Southeast Asia, do places like Macau. That money, that's the money that's going against Lee. So Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot these people back you back your causes back, everything we work on here at the war room, just amazing. 972 Patriot talk to an American citizen about changing your phone service today. It's the best phone service out there because it layers on top of the other three giant mobile carriers. Patriot Mobile, Glenn storing the team brat. You've got some first of the economic news and I've been saying hey, we need to pivot more. Some of these bilats instead of having some of these NATO guys, you got to have more domestic bilats in the White House. I think the White House and I'm kind of concerned about the fourth quarter numbers. Just, I just am. I think that, because I think the rest of the other quarters have been so fantastic. But these numbers today are great. The $200 billion positive number on the deficit in September was amazing. So President Trump seems to be hitting it. The key is real wages are up, inflation's not, is under expectations. But you're most concerned right now, as I am, is about the deep state, the election of 2020, J6, and basically indictments across the board for what they try to do to President Trump in the first term. Your thoughts, sir?

[Economic Analyst]

Yeah. Well, first, Mike Davis is a treasure and what he just covered along with you was tremendous. But I just want to put down some evergreen stuff here as a marker, right. What's going on here? I break it up into three parts. The strategy, the crime, and then the COVID up. The strategy is very important. Going way back to 16, there was a threat to the entire system, right to this system. The Matrix was under attack. For those who haven't seen the Matrix, go, go watch it. Get your young people to tell you what that is. But there was a major glitch in the, in the Matrix and that glitch was President Donald J. Trump in 2016. So then the crime, the crime is to run a coup and to take out a President of the United States. You'll never hear that from the left. Right. And then the Arctic, the Operation Arctic Frost is the COVID up of that crime. And we're just covering part of the COVID up here, but it's just huge, way worse than Watergate. All this while the mainstream media today tells us that Trump is a threat to democracy. Right. And so I just went back to Grassley's webpage at, at U.S. senate Committee on the Judiciary. Here's just a headlines, right? Arctic Frost investigation formed the basis of Jack Smith's elector case against President Trump. Grassley, as you just said. But I want to give people the lingo here. Grassley's oversight exposed the existence of prohibited access files, a file system the FBI uses to limit access to certain documents by making some files inaccessible to most FBI agents. So as you said, we came down to having a whistleblower have to tell us this. Officials in the Biden White House, in the Biden White House personally assisted the FBI in securing Trump and Pence's government phones. President Trump and Pence's government phones. This is all from Grassley, by the way. Records Grassley made public last month showed the FBI also placed 92 Republican linked individuals and Republican groups such as Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA under Arctic Frost investigative scope. And just, you know, why is this huge and why is it not out there? Go out to Google, Google it. Go out to Wikipedia and here's what they say. Arctic Frost is an informal label for an investigation that involved FBI preliminary toll analysis, phone metadata checks related several Republican U.S. senators is the context of the post 2020 election inquiries. Right. So nothing, nothing ever reported by the mainstream media. This is huge, right? The strategy.

[Steve K. Bannon]

But hold it, but hold it, but hold it. But hang on, hang on. We got to stop. We said, first off, it dwarfs Watergate. It's, it's, it's 10x Watergate number. Number two is that this is my problem with the broligarcs being in the White House and glazing President Trump. It's still Google. The big tech will not, not just not push us. They suppress this story. We're up against big tech because all the oligarchs are progressive Democrats. And as soon as President Trump exits the stage, they're going to be back to the progressive Democrats. They're only around us right now for the simple reason that President Trump is, you know, one of the top three presidents in the history of this country in saving the country. And they realize he's action, action, action. And they don't want to be caught crossways with this Justice Department or any more than they already are the ftc. So the tech oligarchs, the prologar, are not our friends here. You can see in this, in these massive investigations going over now. You go, you go online, you virtually can't find anything about it. Right? It's, it's kind of, it's crickets. Was not crickets. And this is why the mainstream, but this why MSNBC is going crazy. Because President Trump yesterday has the panel with everybody and say, hey, here's what we're doing. And we got Stephen Miller, we got everybody, and they're freaking out because they understand Trump is taking action. Sir.

[Mike Davis (The Viceroy)]

Yeah.

[Economic Analyst]

And Senator Kennedy in his testimony, by the way, all eight senators that were spied on are the good guys. Go look that up. That's just a. You know, in passing, Kennedy raised the fact, as you were just pointing out on the communications front, that the mainstream media was all in on this. And under usaid, etcetera, they're probably getting paid. We can prove all that. But then the communication firms, all of them had the power to independently quash these asks by a corrupt FBI. Right? When you go after a sitting U.S. senator and ask for their phone records and the communication companies say, yeah, sure, and you remember, I forgot to point out. Right. Part of the strategy and the conspiracy way up at the top level, the uni party was in full motion here. Right. You had the Republican leadership and the Democrat leadership all in on the unit party going after Trump. Trump. Right. Back in 16, we forget that. Right. And then we had the entire censorship regime coming against us. And so the action coming here is just huge for the American people. We, we've all been waiting for this. Right. We've been called Nazis and fascists and taking over the government. It's all a messaging war. And the narrative really matters here. And this is the goods that we needed to show. No, it's the laughed all political views of my own that's been lying to us since 2016 when the Washington Post launched a story on President Trump before he raised his right hand. It's a conspiracy of the highest order, the greatest magnitude this country has ever seen. Dwarfing Watergate, as you said, dwarfs Watergate.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Hang on a second, Dave. We got a lot more to go through. Do I have a cold open? Jeanne Sievers with us on a story that we naturally normally wouldn't cover. But it's, it actually speaks to a very large and troubling issue in this country right now. Can we go play the cold open and I'll just leave my mouth open. I'll jump in. Gambling on the games, it's two things. First of all, as we were talking about earlier in the show, all of these leagues, the NBA made most of all, but all of the leagues have.

[Rodney Williams]

Gotten into bed with these, with FanDuel.

[Steve K. Bannon]

With, with DraftKings, all these, these companies where you can bet.

[Rodney Williams]

Betting is sports betting is legal in a number of states now, not all.

[Steve K. Bannon]

But a number of states. And there's sponsorship everywhere, whether it's on any, whether it's espn, Fox, any telecast. There's, there's ways to bet on this and it's the prop bets and those.

[Rodney Williams]

Are so easily manipulated.

[Steve K. Bannon]

You can, if you're a player and you're looking to make a little cash or help out your friends or whatever it might be, or organized crime, it's easy to say, you know what, I'm going to get under four rebounds today, especially if you're some bench player who's only going to get limited minutes, it's that, that's the kind of stuff that's so easy manipulated. So talk about that. And also who head coaches, they decide lineups which players sit.

[Rodney Williams]

That's so dangerous.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Steve K. Bannon]

The menu of prop bets in your imagination, when you think about like the mob and these point shaving things you're talking about affecting the score, this is not even that. This is the ability to bet against yourself. Essentially. If I am going to do badly in a game, if I'm going to take myself out of it, I'm going to get less than what the gambling operators say I'm projected to in a given game. So I can get under the number of rebounds that I'm expected to.

[Economic Analyst]

I can bet.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Yep. Jeannie seaver, Moms Against Gambling I want you to, because, you know, I'm kind of shocked. I'm a pretty big sports fan, but I know all my younger nephews and all my young crew that principally male that actually produce and put the war room together are all degenerate gamblers because they're betting on, in these games, they're betting on everything. They're betting on free throws. You know, does a guy throw a slider or a fastball the next pitch? I mean, the technology and what's shocking to me from the most blue blood like usga, all these sport, you know, and even the blue bloods like usga, everybody's in on it. All the sports leagues are in it. ESPN's got a gap. ESPN shows the games and now it's going on because the money is, it's so massive. The cash flow is so massive and the house always wins here. These kids are becoming poor and poor and poor. And it's one thing to gamble and just say, hey, I'm gonna put up so much because it's like entertainment. So it's like going to a movie, you know, put up 20 bucks or 25 bucks. But my belief is that's not happening here. Why do you have this organization and how is this scandal play into exactly what you've been preaching against for years?

[Jeannie Siever]

Well, Moms Against Gambling is a national organization. Our basic goal is to educate parents, families, legislators on the harms and the addiction that is impacted by the gambling industry. There is so much going on right now. The addiction rates are skyrocketing. And what happened yesterday is just a tip of the iceberg, Steve, on what's to come. Because there is, there is so much, I mean, it's all, like you said, it's all about the money. It's all about the money. That's all they care about. And it's the it preys pretty much on the poor. For the ones that are actually funding these millions and millions of dollars of advertising of sports betting. I mean, we've been fighting seven to nine years in Georgia. They've been trying to legalize all kinds of gambling here in Georgia and we're just out there trying to educate them on the negative impacts. One out of five that become addicted to gambling, Steve, attempt suicide. That is factual. That is not just a, you know, a talking point. It's, it's factual. And every, like in Georgia, for example, every dollar that they take in, in revenues for gambling, it will cost the state 7 to $8 just on the negative impacts and the total destruction of the families and the mental health services that is needed. That will be needed. So this is a bad, bad situation. It's destroying sports as we see. I mean, come on, you've got that athlete down in with Miami Heat. I mean, what is he making $24 million a year? That's not enough. That's not enough a year. And he just threw it all away. It's an addiction. It's a terrible, terrible addiction. And it's definitely preying not only on our young men, but kids. Kids, Stephen, on their video games and iPhones, encouraging them to go and play the slot machines to get free stuff and then just try to get them into like this is a normal thing. This is not normal. And it's destroying, it will destroy our country. And they say, Steve, that it is the next opioid crisis.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Hang on for a second. You're absolutely correct. Let's take a short commercial break. Myles Guo is going to take us out with take down the ccp and of course President Trump's going over to have a very tough negotiation with xi. All next in the world.

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The U.S. electric grid is approaching a breaking point as demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready, powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn [e-mail] I'm Rodney Williams.

[Rodney Williams]

And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest. Building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle, and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Brave podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Take.

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A deep dive into the stories making.

[Steve K. Bannon]

The news headlines across the world.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The news agents we're not just here.

[Steve K. Bannon]

To tell you what's happening, but why. From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast, the Newsagents Dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Jeannie 1 in 5 okay, what Siever said is, is absolutely 100% correct. We have a massive opioid crisis in fentanyl in this country that's taking out, you know, every year like 2x what we lost in Vietnam driven by the Chinese Communist Party, the gambling kind of, you know, this thing in Texas with Lee Bombsgan. The company's got seven casinos in, in, in Macau, a money laundering, the money laundering and child trafficking and sex trafficking center for the Chinese Communist Party. That's always lovely, isn't it? Macau is one of the darkest cities on earth. The specter of just darkness over Macau is deep and they're trying to cause Texas. Once again, Texas is in play. They're trying to get gambling in Texas. Let me leave that aside. This is not, and I'm no puritan, this is not betting, which people have done for years, the college football card or the pro football card. You got the spreads and guys, you know, debate that shows all over. This is something far darker. When you watch when I sit there and watch television sports events with my young Chargers or my nephews or things like that, they're not watching the games anymore. They're on the fricking phone and they're betting on, they're taking bets and laying bets off on like every action on the field. Are they going to go for it on fourth down? You know, is it, what's the next pitch? The guy's going to throw everything, every action. This is why this Scandal right here. The guy just took himself out because they had, I guess, a number of rebounds he's going to get or a number of points he's going to get. So it's technically not point shaving, but it kind of is because he's taking himself out of the game. They got the video the very moment when he faked an ankle injury to go out. And that's because people are betting on every aspect of the game. And the sports books are not blameless here. You got the sports books, you have these huge industries and quite frank at ESPN and the leagues, ESPN and these guys have bought into it on the ESPN app. You can bet right there. And all they talk about is. All they talk about all day long, the spreads, everything like that. The gambling has overwhelmed the sports. This is the issue. And you have a addiction issue coming because the gambling's always had an addiction problem. You got one coming that's going to make the opioid crisis look, look small as far as addictions go. Maybe not some of deaths, but, but Jeannie, you're saying one out of every five gambling addicts commit suicide or attempt suicide?

[Jeannie Siever]

Attempt. Attempt suicide. They say one out of 10 are successful. That's the worst addiction in the nation. And let me give you an example of statistics here in Georgia. When we only have the lottery, we've got the coam or the slot machines and then the lottery tickets here in Georgia. And we're not. That's the only kind of gambling that's allowed. We have 840,000 addicted gamblers in Georgia with just that. That is catastrophic. And they go, well, that's only a certain percent, Steve. One is bad enough because, you know, the economic impacts of, of the whole family structures destruction. I mean, I came from addiction myself and my family. I know what that brings to your life and the struggles that you deal with. And so we are just out there fighting Georgia right now, trying to keep it from any other expansion.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Oh, it's big money.

[Jeannie Siever]

It's. It's big money. And it's. They say, well, it's for the kids. They say this, that and the other. But it's like it would be catastrophic. It'd be terrible for our country.

[Steve K. Bannon]

And they're coming for the best of the southern and southwest states, Texas, Georgia, all of a. Jeannie, you're a national organization. I want people to go to your site, get more information. We're going to be covering this in depth now because as much pressure as people on, we're going to have to. We're going to have to address this situation. And we're not puritans. Okay. It's not like we're. This, this, this is not a good government, holier than thou situation. This is a. Our young men particularly are being, being wrapped up. You can see it. You can feel it when you watch sports. You can see the games themselves and you can bet on everything. You see these commercials where it's all happy, clappy and let's have a good time and more camaraderie if we bet. Jeanne, where do people go for your site?

[Jeannie Siever]

Can I just add one more important very quick point? Sure. I beg your listeners to go and look at their children's iPhones and video games because you will be surprised what you see of the gambling apps on their phone. That is the first thing that you could do because a lot of people ask on trying to get a, you know, just get a feel for what's going on in your child's life. And yes, it's moms against gambling.com we have. That's, that's, you know, we're there a lot of resources there to educate you. We are on X at no Gambling. NGA is our username and of course we're on Facebook. Moms Against Gambling. Any questions, anything we can do to help any parents. We've had several parents call and we've helped them. One more fact. There are three. Three rehab facilities in our nation. That's it. Three that are specifically targeted to help the gambling addicts. Only three, Steve.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Wow.

[Jeannie Siever]

These are things that need to be made, our people made aware of. And thank you so much and appreciate of Mike Lynn.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Jeannie Siever]

Because he had us on our, on his HOPE show with his team talking about this. Thank you so much, Steve.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Thank you, ma'. Am. Appreciate you. We'll cover this more. Drill down on this brat. Brad. You're a pro athlete. You're a tennis. You're a tennis player. You're a pro athlete. Talk to me about modern. Talk to me about modern sports. I'm taking. I'm going long Brad. I'm long Brad. Oh, you see it? You see it, Dave, I know you're a sports fan when you watch sports now, particularly with young people. They're on the fricking phones. I said, hey, get off the phones and you know, quit texting the girlfriend and you know, and focus on the game. And there are. Focus on the game. But they're, they're laying off bets for every action on the field. And I'm sitting there going, how much? Because the house Always wins on this. You know that. Talk to me about the moral depravity we're facing in this gambling situation.

[Economic Analyst]

Yeah, well, yeah, as your resident pilgrim puritan, Gene's last point there was right. Go check out the kids phones. And it's not just sports, it's everything. Right? And speaking of dating, you know, they're talking to their girlfriend. Everybody's dating over the phones now. The first meetings and everything. The sports is totally corrupt, right? It's not even clear who's winning the games. The, the, the collegiate sports map has been ruined by money. Everybody knows. So even when you're placing your bets, no one's clear. It's not all rigged. But the major point is you got to give your kids something to do. Like go play sports. Get out and go play out in the woods like we used to do when we were kids. Go out and meet girls. Right? Don't do it all on the phone. It's. That's the problem.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Give them, do what my parents did, my mom did. Throw them out in the backyard with a stick and say, use your imagination.

[Economic Analyst]

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Take the stick, give him the stick. Okay, we're taking, we're leaving with the right stuff. The second hour is going to be more on fire than the first. Stick around, you're in the war room.

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