THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4937)

Summary

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The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon (EP. 4937)

Date: November 19, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests/Contributors: Joe Allen, Michelle Morrow, Brian Harrison, Richard Barris (The People’s Pundit), Salma Villarreal

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Overview

In this episode, Steve Bannon and his guests tackle a wide array of pressing topics ranging from foreign investments in the U.S. (particularly Saudi commitments), election year politics, concerns about AI and technology transfer to China, the state of the U.S. education system affected by immigration, Texas policy changes regarding vehicle registrations and terrorist designations, and increasingly unfavorable polling for Republicans. Throughout, the tone is combative and urgent, with repeated calls for grassroots action and political vigilance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Foreign Investment Promises & Middle East Dynamics

• Bannon and guests discuss President Trump’s announcement about Saudi Arabia’s commitment to invest $600 billion (possibly $1 trillion) in the U.S.
• Skepticism abounds: Historical pattern of Saudi over-promising and under-delivering, especially in post-9/11 and Yemen contexts.
  • "Annual foreign investment in total in the United States has never exceeded $500 billion." – Joe Allen (02:41)
• Concerns about this being "nonsense" and distractive from real issues.
  • Michelle Morrow jokes: "When the President talks like this, it’s as though I’m watching Austin Powers and Dr. Evil with 1 million." (02:44)

2. Human Rights, ICE, and American Division

• Concerns are raised about human rights violations by ICE, including the mistreatment of U.S. citizens and legal residents.
  • "We are being driven apart rather than being united and held together and seeing our shared interests... instead we’re vilifying people. And in the end it’s going to impact all of our rights." — Michelle Morrow (04:05)
• Discussion on the impact of fear and division, especially among "non-college educated whites... who feel threatened by whether or not they have a real opportunity in this country."

3. Trump Administration Critique, Autocracy, and Legal Contempt

• Highly critical commentary on Donald Trump’s leadership style, alleging autocratic tendencies.
  • "Donald Trump is an autocrat... does not care about the law, about the facts, he just wants power." – Joe Allen (05:36)
• Accusations that the administration is “utterly contemptuous of the law and don’t even try to follow it,” referencing deployment of military, immigration, defiance of courts, and more.

4. The State of AI: U.S. vs. China, Jobs, and National Security

• Growing alarm that China is outpacing the U.S. in AI expertise and hiring, partly due to domestic policy and educational admissions.
  • “China is moving ahead of us... the stupidity that is like occupying people that are running Washington D.C. is so self-defeating.” — Joe Allen (06:57)
• Bannon issues stark warnings about mass job displacement due to AI, especially for new graduates (“AI apocalypse is here now.”)
• Urges a national debate on AI development, warning about chips, investment, and government guarantees to big tech — with a proposal that "the American taxpayer, we need half the equity, 50% of the equity in all these things." (20:11)
• "This is corporatism and crony capitalism." – Bannon (20:12)
• Describes Jensen from Nvidia as “an arms dealer... agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party” in relation to AI chips being sold overseas. (10:44–13:55)

5. Texas Immigration and Policy Update: Victories Claimed

• Breaking news from Brian Harrison: Texas will now require proof of legal status for vehicle registration, reversing decades of allowing foreign passports.
  • "You guys delivered... melt the governor’s phone lines... they are implementing a new policy to now actually require proof of legal status before they just issue you a vehicle registration. So this is a huge victory." — Brian Harrison (23:13)
• Texas Governor Abbott designates Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as foreign terrorist organizations, but Harrison warns “words without action is meaningless,” demanding investigations and arrests (25:44).

6. Redistricting Wars & Election Prognosis

• Discussion of the recent judicial ruling in Texas redistricting that could hand Democrats additional House seats—potentially swinging Congressional control.
  • "The stakes couldn’t be higher... this could literally determine the future of the whole country because it could determine whether the U.S. Congress falls into the hands of the radical leftist Marxist progressive Democrats." — Brian Harrison (27:36)
• Calls for aggressive counter-mapping if the Supreme Court doesn’t overturn the decision ("Let’s add six seats, let’s add seven, let’s add eight.").

7. Polling Analysis: Republican Red Alerts

• Richard Barris (The People’s Pundit) delivers an urgent polling warning:
  • The generic ballot recently swung from D+1.2 to D+7.8, with some polls showing D+14 (34:58).
  • "It does tell you a lot of Republicans are thinking of just not voting... the right needs a wake-up call." — Barris (39:43)
• Disappointment at GOP inactivity and infighting ("It’s either cowardice or corruption... It’s always the American voter who doesn’t get prioritized." — Barris (43:57))
• Congressional work schedule (115 days in session) deemed "humiliating," with criticism that Congress works harder for Ukraine/Israel than Americans.

8. Education, Immigration, and Charlotte School Crisis

• Local reporting from Charlotte, NC: Large-scale student absences (approx. 28,000–30,000) due to fear of immigration raids; controversy over schools providing online learning to avoid enforcement.
  • "Does that mean there are 56,000 illegal parents right there just in that one school district?" — Michelle Morrow (51:50)
• Bannon and Morrow demand enforcement and accountability; call out Democrats for not fixing the system during years in power.

9. AI Moratorium & Congressional Maneuvers

• Joe Allen and Bannon express alarm about Ted Cruz and Steve Scalise allegedly pushing for federal preemption to limit state regulation of AI via NDAA, behind closed doors.
  • “Ted Cruz... is the running dog of the Tech Bros.” — Steve Bannon (46:17)
  • “It’s all being done behind closed doors.” – Joe Allen (46:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When the President talks like this, it’s as though I’m watching Austin Powers and Dr. Evil with 1 million. Like this is straight-up nonsense.” — Michelle Morrow (02:49)
• “Donald Trump is an autocrat who does not care about the law, about the facts, he just wants power.” — Joe Allen (05:36)
• “China is moving ahead of us... the stupidity that is like occupying people that are running Washington D.C. is so self-defeating.” — Joe Allen (06:57)
• “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cuz we’re going medieval on these people’s not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.” — Steve Bannon (09:37)
• “The American taxpayer, we need half the equity, 50% of the equity and all these things... This is not capitalism. This is corporatism and crony capitalism.” — Steve Bannon (20:11)
• “We are making a difference, and this is a huge difference... there’s a 0% chance that this would have happened if the unit party in Austin was left to their own devices.” – Brian Harrison (23:13)
• “Words without action is meaningless. So I want to see investigations, I want to see arrests.” — Brian Harrison (25:44)
• “None of these interviews... takes into consideration the recent infighting you’ve been seeing... the idea that (Republicans) are losing faith is probably an accurate idea.” — Richard Barris (36:04–41:24)
• “It’s always the American voter who doesn’t get prioritized. And then when they’re getting their, you know, you know, their asses kicked, they’re wondering why the Republican voter doesn’t want to come out and vote. Well, they’re going to fight for you about as hard as you fight for them.” — Richard Barris (44:33)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:09 — Trump’s claims of $600 billion Saudi investment dissected
• 04:02 — Concerns over ICE, citizen rights, and social division
• 05:36 — Trump, autocracy, and legal defiance
• 07:57 — U.S. losing ground to China in AI; implications for jobs and security
• 10:44 — Bannon’s warning on AI, chips, and “arms dealers”
• 20:11 — Bannon: “50% of equity in AI must go to USA taxpayer”
• 23:13 — Texas policy shifts: vehicle registration and terrorist designations
• 27:36 — Texas redistricting bombshell and battle plans
• 34:58 — Barris details dire polling landscape for GOP
• 39:43 — Causes for GOP malaise: Epstein scandal, Israel, lack of leadership
• 43:10 — Ridicule of Congress’ 115-day work year
• 51:50 — Charlotte school absences and immigration enforcement
• 54:30 — Calls for penalties for schools “aiding and abetting" illegal immigration
• 46:13–47:06 — Concerns about AI moratorium and legislative secrecy

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Action Items & Calls to Action

• Bannon repeatedly calls the audience (“War Room posse”) to action on AI, redistricting, grassroots engagement, and local lobbying.
• Urges vigilance on policy changes, especially in Texas and regarding congressional efforts to regulate (or prevent regulation of) AI.
• Promotes following on social media (especially Locals/X) for rapid updates and organizing.

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Summary

This episode weaves together pressing international, national, and local political concerns with a signature Bannon blend of indignation, activism, and conspiratorial suspicion. The conversation spotlights the perceived existential threats posed by AI, immigration policies, and political complacency, with strong criticism directed at both Democratic and Republican establishments. Urgent poll numbers and the Texas redistricting scenario undergird a broader narrative of impending crisis and the need for mobilization within the conservative grassroots. Throughout, listeners are encouraged to take action, stay vigilant, and question both the motives and effectiveness of policymakers and established political actors.

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Transcript

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Going to one up you I want.

[Steve K. Bannon]

To share what the President said right now.

[Joe Allen]

You've agreed to invest $600 billion into the United States and because he's my friend he might make it a trillion.

[Steve K. Bannon]

But I'm going to have to work on him.

[Joe Allen]

So Saudi is going to be investing at least $600 billion and that means investments in plants, in companies, money on Wall street and what it really means for everybody. That really counts as job of jobs. We have a lot of jobs.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Let's level set.

[Michelle Morrow]

Annual foreign investment in total in the.

[Joe Allen]

United States has never exceeded 500 billion.

[Michelle Morrow]

When the President talks like this, it's as though I'm watching Austin Powers and Dr.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Evil with 1 million.

[Michelle Morrow]

Like this is straight up nonsense. And he's saying it from our Oval Office.

[Brian Harrison]

And I'll talk about Saudi Arabia in the region. There's a long history of Saudi Arabia promising to sort of solve problems that they, after 9, 11, they were going to, you know, bring the Taliban to heel and end all that. Twenty years later, US Troops leave and, and are humiliated.

[Joe Allen]

And they have a long history of.

[Brian Harrison]

Sort of not delivering. They went into Yemen, they were going to defeat the Houthis several years ago, that was a mess as well. And so today Bin Salman was very clear. He did not agree to the Abraham Accords. They're not ready for that. He raised a Palestinian state. That's, that's his right. He, there will be no Saudi troops. The big, big, big issue now is what will be this stabilization force that will go in and disarm Hamas. If that doesn't happen soon, this cease fire which President Trump deserves credit for, could unravel. So I don't see the Saudis sort of delivering, you know, large amounts of reconstruction funds or ground troops or pushing other Arab countries to provide those ground troops. And that was what should have been the focus today.

[Joe Allen]

Not $1 trillion of investment that are.

[Michelle Morrow]

A Trump branded exist shopping mall in Saudi Arabia. You know, I think the country is very much worried about its people are worried about their freedoms. You know, one of the things we're seeing in this data and exactly in what you said about the, what we're seeing and how people are being treated by ICE and why that number is 56% not approving how it's doing its job is because it's violating people's rights and freedoms. And that means it can comfort anybody to the point that there are U.S. citizens or people here with permission being literally experiencing beatings, having their human rights violated. And so I think it's very clear in this poll that there's also a divide for people who feel threatened. And that's where we see that non college educated white where they feel threatened by whether or not they have a real opportunity in this country. We should be solving that. We should be making sure everybody has the ability to get a college degree and live a decent life. But what's happening right now is the division and the poll. And the reason there's fear is because we are being driven apart rather than being united and held together and seeing our shared interests and needs and, and trying to figure out how to solve those. But instead we're vilifying people. And in the end it's going to impact all of our rights failing, you know, playing their trade. I mean, is it overreach? I have a hard time grasping how.

[Brian Harrison]

We got to this moment, Mark.

[Joe Allen]

We got to this moment because Donald Trump is an autocrat and we can never forget this. You know, like he's an autocrat who does not care about anything. He doesn't care about the law, he doesn't care about the facts. He just wants power. And he is surrounded by sycophants. You know, a Justice Department that even had Jeff Sessions, I cannot believe I'm saying that even had Jeff Sessions as the attorney general would not have sent the letter that they sent a conservative governor who had, you know, 2 ounces of common sense and listened to lawyers would not have then called a special session and engaged in what the reverend is 100% correct about. 100% correct about. This was them injecting race into, to a map that they wanted to redraw. And like that is just what we see from this administration all over the place. I mean, we see it in the city streets in which they are, they are grabbing people off the streets who are U.S. citizens and, you know, disappearing them in vans. They are, they are, they are ignoring court orders all around the country and this is the reason why they keep losing in court. You know, you and I have talked before about how many cases they are losing in, you know, these cases involving the deployment of the military, the National Guard or immigration. Like they're losing a lot of cases because they are utterly contemptuous of the law and don't even try to follow it. And then when they wind up in court, you know, hopefully they get, you know, they run against, run up against good lawyering. The Chinese are starting to lap us when it comes to AI. Mark Zuckerberg wanted to do an advanced AI project and they were going to hire 11, 11 people to do that. Experts. Seven of the 11 were born in China. You look at the top AI experts. The United States just five years ago dominated this field. No more. China is moving ahead of us. And while we're having this space race, race for the future, the stupidity, the stupidity that, that is like occupying people that are running Washington D.C.

[Brian Harrison]

Is, is.

[Joe Allen]

Is so self defeating. Again, this time period is begging for heroes. This moment in history, this chapter in history is begging for heroes. There's heroes need to come from the Republican Party and they need to be people that start standing up and saying this is self defeating. You can't have masked men going in Pulling American citizens up or people that have their proper papers. You can't, you got to stop doing this. Let's focus on the future. You can't like be blowing up boats indiscriminately. Let's worry about China and Russia. You can't. I mean, again, the distractions are just so overwhelming. And we're taking our eye off of what's most important for the future of this country. And that doesn't even include all of the people coming out of college that will not have jobs next year. Let me say that again. All the people coming out of colleges that will not have jobs next year because the AI apocalypse is here now.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Potential of this technology.

[Joe Allen]

The excitement is very rational. It's also true when we go through these investment cycles, you know, there are.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Moments we overshoot right collectively as an industry. We can look back at the Internet right now. There was clearly a lot of excess investment.

[Joe Allen]

But none of us would question whether.

[Steve K. Bannon]

The Internet was profound or did it drive a lot of impact. It's fundamentally changed how we work digitally as a society. I expect AI to be the same. I think it's both rational and there are elements of irrationality through a moment like this. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cuz we're going medieval on these. People's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go.

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[Joe Allen]

MAGA Media.

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I wish in my skill, soul, I.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Joe Allen]

Ask yourself, what is my task and.

[Steve K. Bannon]

What is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[Joe Allen]

Country, this country will be saved. War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve K. Bannon]

It's Wednesday the 19th of November, year of our Lord 2025. We are going to get to all of that today and break it down. We got a bunch of action items for the war room posse, so get ready to get to the ramparts. So we've got it all. We've got polling. We're going to talk about what's happening in Charlotte. Joe Scarborough right there. That was all over the map. The reason they don't have jobs coming out, sir, is that we have 600,000 foreign nationals, both Indian, from the subcontinent of India and China, that are here to take their jobs and they all have to go home after college. You can't have this opt where these come to college and they're going to slide in to some US company that's going to hire them. And no, sir, we're not going to stop the mass deportations to get our sovereignty back on these illegal aliens. And you're saying you got to focus on the future. That's just crap. The future on aei. We're going to get into this in detail because they're trying to slip something into the NDA, which I told you was going to happen, because they don't want to have a public, a national debate about this on the artificial intelligence. We got to get our arms around this right now, economically, financially, technologically, culturally, on the society. But the first thing we should do, they're not getting ahead of us unless we help them on artificial intelligence. Let me tell you, Nvidia is about to announce earnings and Wall Street's going to go crazy. He's going to have a half a billion dollars of backlog for the chips. Jensen, who's a agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party, he's an arms merchant. Just let's get down to. Just think about it. Very basically, these chips are essentially critical to weaponization. He's an arms dealer. He's an arms dealer and he'll deal with anybody. He'll deal with the Chinese Communist Party. Look at his saying, oh, yeah, it doesn't matter if a Chinese company does better if China leaves it. No, that's absolutely incorrect. So the US Government and all this stuff about you can't have any restrictions on this. You're going to slip it into the NDA. And one argument is clearly the intellectual property. And I appreciate that and I support that, Mike Davis and the team, but that's a small part of it. This is to take off any control whatsoever. You have more restrictions on starting a nail salon on Capitol Hill or to have your hair braided than you have on one of the most dangerous technologies in the history of mankind, probably the most dangerous technology. Technology has tremendous upside if properly guided, but unguided, incredibly dangerous. And now we know from the leaks that are coming up from the industry and the CFO of OpenAI, you understand that at least the initial financing plan for the rollout of data centers and energy that go with it is $5 trillion. Now, I spent last night with some very smart people about AI. They said, well, actually, that's probably half. It's probably closer to 8 to $10 trillion on the $5 trillion model as put out on Zero Hedge. $1 trillion. What plugged the gap was $1 trillion was coming from you the full faith and credit of the United States government. Yet all the tech bros last night taking pictures of themselves with the Saudis. By the way, you know Saudis are committing to do all this. It's fantastic. President Trump's trying to end the war in the Middle east, trying to bring that part of the war in the Eurasian landmass that connect part of the third World war to bring it to a conclusion. And this I had Katz Yovak Katz on Yaakov Katz on last night about while Israel slept. We had Rabbi Wolickian here. Hey, bottom line, Israel first created a two state solution, okay? That's what's happening. Turks are going to run the security. The Qataris are going to are going to underwrite the build out. The Qataris that are in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood, okay? Israel first did that. President Trump is trying to end this madness over there. And as I said, the Middle east is a sideshow and Israel is a sideshow to a sideshow. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings, but we're talking about this country and the Saudis. When I look at the Saudis, I think they got a liquidity problem. They're running huge deficits right now. So maybe he's promising all that and that's fantastic. It'll be monitored. But this whole thing of doing AI deals and sending them chips, once again very dangerous. The chip should not go to anywhere or to anybody that's not a US Company that also has at least a modicum of regulation. You think we regulate the build out of nuclear weapons? You think we've controlled the build out of chemical weapons? You think we control or try to control biological weapons? Except when Fauci goes over to China and starts underwriting a a weapons lab for the Chinese Communist Party. We have to get control of this now. In Texas, Greg Abbott because of pressure designates the Muslim Brotherhood in care as terrorist organizations. Suck on that. Where's the US Government in doing this? Abbott, Abbott also Brian Harrison is going to join us. Abbott also comes out and I think Brian Harrison's got breaking news. He's going to stop the registration of vehicles to illegal aliens. Barris is going to join us. The polling don't look great. Let me be blunt. And you've got now this fight right now on the redistricting. People got to get up on the ramparts and I mean not just this audience been doing it. I'm talking about local legislature in these state legislatures. You got to get up on the ramparts. Unless you just want to turn the House over to the Democrats now because they're playing smash mouth, they're going 10 to 1 in Virginia. Spamberger is going to be Newsom's VP if she delivers that. It's time to go to war on these people. Right now. People are kind of leaning back and everything like that. You're going to get smoked, the polling shows you. And oh, by the way, we're also going to get some Michelle Morrow, who ran for Department of Education. Boy, would they need her. Is it 30,000 students did not show up in Charlotte. Is that a red flag? Maybe you got a couple of three illegal aliens down there and they're trying to back President Trump off for enforcing his policies. Short commercial break Back in the War in a moment.

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Okay, I'm going to come back to AI Joe Allen is in studio because we have an action item where we get you up to the ramparts here momentarily before I just put it off. Total AI with every dollar of that financing and those guarantees, it has to come from the government. That's the, that's the hidden secret. All this madness to take away your jobs and to just to have unbridled accelerationists. We're all going to be acceleration now with no risk mitigation that we can see. None, zero. You're going to pay for it. So here's the bottom line. The American taxpayer, we need half the equity, 50% of the equity and all these things.

[Salma Villarreal]

Things?

[Steve K. Bannon]

Yeah. Oh, Bannon, you're so. I'm not a socialist. I'm a capitalist. This is not capitalism. This is corporatism and crony capitalism.

[Joe Allen]

Who.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Who told her that we're giving government guarantees? We're not going to do that. You're not going to get a government guarantee with the American taxpayer. The American citizen gets stiffed again, they're going to take all your jobs. First. They're going to H1B visas to have the foreigners come in and take your kids jobs, number one. And even your job if you're in your 40s in tech. Okay? Number two, they're gonna have the AI out there and it's gonna kill every apprentice type job for administrative folks, lower level managerial and programmers in lower level tech for the decade of your 20s. They're gonna take all that right away. Okay. Then they want you to pay for it. No, no, no, no. The American people paid for it the first time with their pension funds, to the hedge funds that ship the jobs over to China. It's not going to happen again. We need a national debate on this. This is what upsets me about trying. I warned you this was going to happen. They're going to slide it into the NDAA because, oh, you got to prove. You got to authorize the Defense Department. Says who? You ain't. You ain't authorized the justice department, the FBI for 25 or 30 years. Why is this a must pass? It's a must pass because all the pigs at the trough of the arms dealers in the arms merchants got to make sure they guarantee that money. Got to guarantee that money. Let's talk truth to power here. This is outrageous. And they're trying to slide in again with. What's the last thing they slid in? The changes to Electoral Count act of 1887. Why was that? Because they didn't want. They have a votes and they didn't want to have a national debate, so they kind of slid it in to an omnibus bill. In the dark of night, they take these one or two pagers and they kind of slide them into these 9,000 page bills. Oh, you got to pass it. Must pass. You're going to have to suck on that. Nope. Not until we have a national debate. Hey, how about our opening bid? We want half of the equity for the American taxpayer. See them wet themselves. Oh, Bannon's a Marxist. Ban. No, no, no, no. I'm actually a capitalist. You're a corporatist. You're a crony capitalist. That's what we got to clean out of the system. 50% of all the AI. 50%. How about that? You want a penny in government guarantees? Because they're coming for it. They're going to get so far down the road where we got to do it. We're the leader in this industry. The Chinese. The Chinese Communist Party is about to take us over. About to take us over. You're giving them the chips. You're giving them the financing. You got 350,000 other students here. You're training them. You got them all in the weapons labs. They're all over the place. So don't sit here and tell me, oh, we have to do it. Shut that down. And then let's have a conversation. Shut it all down. Brian Harrison. We're getting big victories. I want to start. You got breaking news now on the illegal aliens. But also, Abbott got old time religion because the Warren posse and others in Texas that have been pounding this, he designated the Muslim Brotherhood and Care as foreign terrorist organizations in violation of Texas Law, sir.

[Brian Harrison]

Yeah, he did. I got to tell you what the posse guys, we are racking up conservative victory after conservative conservative victory over the corrupt, liberal, uniparty establishment down here in Austin, forcing action on the Muslim Brotherhood. And then right now, I am absolutely breaking this. Steve, on your show, first media outlet I've talked to you about this. I was on, I think two days ago giving out the phone number on. On the war room to the posse, saying, melt the governor's phone lines. Because instead of locking arms with the Trump administration, doing everything we can to fight illegal immigration, the state of Texas has actually been facilitating illegal immigration for the past many, many years. And keep in mind, Governor Abbott's been a governor for 11 years. For the last decade, if you show up at a dmv, a Department of Motor Vehicle, and you want to register your vehicle, as long as you had a passport, not an American passport, any passport from any country good enough for the Texas DMV and you were allowed to register your vehicle and drive on the streets here in the state of Texas. Well, I found out about this in few weeks ago and brought exposure to this. We've talked about it on the posse. You guys delivered melt. Y' all melted the phone lines of the governor secretly snuck out what they're calling a clarification late last night to tax offices all across the state of Texas. And they are implementing a new policy to now actually require proof of legal status before they just issue you a vehicle registration. So this is a huge victory, and I can tell you it's already being implemented. I just got off the phone. I live in Ellis County, Texas. I just got off the phone with our tax collector down here, Richard Roser, and he confirmed that as soon as he got that new policy change, he has immediately ordered his team to begin implementation. So we are making a difference, and this is a huge difference. And I want to be really clear. There's a 0% chance that this would have happened if the unit party in Austin was left to their own devices. They didn't want to do this. And how do we know if they didn't want to do this? They haven't done it for the last decade when they could have got it done. But the posse helped us come through with another huge victory, not just for the people of Texas, but for the people and the safety and the national security of folks all across this great country.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Amazing. Fantastic. So we've got more work for the war on posse today. We're going to get into about AI. Talk to me about this shocking development about Texas. I understand the US Laura Loomer put out that the US Government was finally very close to designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, which they are, and that somehow it gets stood down. But are you pretty shocked about what, what Governor Abbott did about CAIR and about the Muslim Brotherhood?

[Brian Harrison]

So I think this was another great example of where pressure from grassroots patriots, not just in Texas, but all across America, forced action that quite frankly, in my opinion, is overdue. And it's very good. And thank you, Governor, for making that designation. That's absolutely. Now here's the. Here's the problem, though, or not the problem. But we got to maintain vigilance because words, which is what the Austin unit party specializes in, is empty rhetoric in gaslighting. So what matters to me now? Okay, we got the designation. Great, thank you. But action, I'm sorry, words without action is meaningless. So I want to see investigations, I want to see arrests, I want to see actual, tangible action taken against these people. Then it is now the official position of the at least executive branch and the governor of government of the state of Texas that these people are foreign terror organizations. And this is going to shock you. For example, are we going to be able to do the low hanging fruit? We are. The state of Texas with tax money is funding. My office confirmed this. Tens of millions of dollars of tax dollars are being issued as grants out of the governor's office to Islamic communities and mosques all across the state of Texas. And so another example, the governor recently said that he's signed a law to ban Sharia law. Well, I'm in the Texas legislature. I never voted on any law like that. There is no such law on the books. So words and rhetoric, great. But unless they're backed up with action, it's nowhere near enough. And too many people in Austin have their heads in the sand and do not realize what time it is in America.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Brian, before I let you go this huge walk us through, because Richard Barris is going to follow you. And Richard Barris has got a wake up call on some polling here about the midterms. And he's also got some polling from Maris and other organizations. They're maybe not MAGA friendly, but directionally people are going to get the joke. This was a bombshell yesterday, sir. What happened?

[Brian Harrison]

It's absolutely a bombshell. And the stakes couldn't be higher. What we're about to talk about, Steve, this could literally determine the future of the whole country tree because it could determine whether the United States Congress falls into the hands of the radical leftist Marxist progressive Democrats like AOC just one year from now. And what happens is three judges in Texas, a panel of three judges, two of them. So a majority, two struck down the maps that we recently passed earlier this year to give Republicans five more seats in our U.S. congressional delegation. And they're doing this at a late hour. People start voting in Texas in February. We have incredibly early primaries. So this, because it was a panel of judges, this will now go to the Supreme Court. The Attorney General here in Texas has said that he does plan to appeal this to the Supreme Court. I hope the Supreme Court takes it. I hope the Supreme Court overturns this because it needs to be overturned. I disagree with this decision by these three judges. But let me be really clear about this point. The Republican leadership in the state of Texas needs to not take anything for granted. And I'm calling for us to prepare right now in the event that the Supreme Court does not overturn this decision to strike down. We need to have another special session, go right back down to Austin, pass another map. And something we should have done the first time, by the way, if we have to do that. I don't want us just to add five more Republican seats. Let's be maximal. Let's add six seats, let's add seven, let's add eight. Let's make the Democrats and the activists let us pay for what they're trying to do here in Texas. And by the way, you don't hear a peep out of them when, when California, Illinois and New York, you know, gerrymander far more aggressively than anything Republican states are doing. So this is a huge, huge. You cannot overstate how big of a deal this is and how big of a problem it could be if the Supreme Court doesn't overturn this. So Texas has got to start making contingency plans, and we should be making those plans right now.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Bryant, where can people, by the way, we'll get into this issue because I talked to General Paxton last night. There was something from, I guess Harmid or whatever about race, that they're using that to club us. He's actually fought that intensely. We'll either get to that this afternoon or tomorrow. We've got to drill down this. But in the interim. Brian Harrison. Where do folks go to follow the most hated Twitter feed in all of the state of Texas?

[Brian Harrison]

Sir, I'm probably. Probably. There's no probably. I am the most hated member of the Texas legislature down in the corrupt Austin swamp. And I get yelled at and screamed at and cussed at for lots of things, but no more than for what I put on social media because transparency is like kryptonite in the swamp. Go to X. Ryan E. Harrison do your civic duty. Piss off a rhino today. Follow me on X at Brian E. Harrison at Brian E. Harrison. There's going to be a lot of developments, development by the by the hour, by the day, by the minute on this redistricting case.

[Steve K. Bannon]

This is going to be big. They got to get to it right away because the primaries are in March. Anyway. I love the idea. We're going to, we're going to do a backup map right now. Brian Harrison Warrior. You're gonna understand how big this is. Richard Bears about to come in and not make your day. Let's say that. Give you a reality check. Birchgold.com of course Nvidia is going to announce today they're going to say they got $500 billion in backlogs. So the AI bubble continues on. Of course. Guys in AI are getting very nervous. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon end of the dollar empire. Make sure you go check it out today. Today. Get smart. Understand capital markets. Fiat currency, the prime reserve currency de dollarization. All of it Short commercial break. Back in the room in a moment.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band, hometown hack. Remember, every dream you've ever had is now in that home of yours, now more than ever, as we're going to go through some, I don't know, financial turbulence. You think so? That home, if you're lucky enough to own one. Remember, if you're under 35 years old or probably under 40 years old right now, you don't 80 or 90% of your net worth is in there. Make sure every dream you ever had doesn't turn to a nightmare. It's simple. Hometitle lock.com promo code Steve, talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team today. This is pennies a day that saves you a massive opportunity cost of this worry and this angst if something is to happen with artificial intelligence, advanced cyber rogue lawyers, rogue accountants, rogue relatives. You ever have relative go rogue on you? Hello. Make sure your dream doesn't turn to a nightmare. Hometitlelock.com promo code Steve, check it out. Richard Barris, the people's pundit. I want to give a reality check here. What we're dealing with your polling also. There's outside polling now coming. And now some of the outside polling are not MAGA friendly. But this is about directionally, sir. And this goes to what's happening in Texas. We told the reducing wars tee up 26, which gets to 28. This is kind of a bridge, you know, you got to take a bridge of time. I might add that in Brian Harrison's he left out Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia, which I think is 45 or 46% Republican consistently. Spanberg has got a plan. It's going to go from six five, folks, to 10 to one. That is referred to as smash mouth. Okay, this is what they're playing. They're running a maximum strategy. I have no problem with that because we're running a maximum strategy, too. It's just we got to get up on it and stop theirs. Richard Barris, give us the flashing warning sign, sir.

[Richard Barris]

Yeah, this is a backdrop of redistricting war, Steve, which after the ruling in Texas, Democrats are up three seats right now. I mean, if the ruling stands, they would be up three seats. Let's even assume they do not. Right? Looking at the polling we, we got, if you can put it up, that'd be great. But I mean, we have the trend from our own polling, we can show we always have pretty close generic ballots, Steve. They don't blow open very often, right? I mean, look at this trend, and this was released a few days ago. It's Democratic.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Hang on, just explain it quick. Just quickly explain to somebody made the new viewers and listeners a generic ballot. Why is this important, why you do it consistently and why it's always pretty close.

[Brian Harrison]

This is.

[Richard Barris]

They call it generic because we don't cite specific candidates. We're literally asking people about would you vote for the generic Republican or the generic Democrat if the elections were today in your congressional district? So this is a House vote, a generic vote for the House of Representatives. And we track it all the time because of course, it gives you the national mood, number one, but also it gives you an idea of where the House is going, where people are thinking, where voters are considering when the elections come up and who they're going to vote for from the House of Representatives. That poll was done on the 10th of November, which is very important here, guys. It went from Democrat 1.2 to Democrat 7.8. And it almost all came from, by the way, some of the people who say they're undecided or they're picking somebody else, a third party going to the Democrats and a bunch of Republicans actually saying, I'm voting third party or not voting at all. Right. And of course, at the end of the day, the third party vote share will not be that high, but it does tell you that a lot of Republicans are thinking of just not voting. All right, so that was out in the 10th. And now we have the Marist poll, which is an opportunist. They're not MAGA friendly, but it does show, show you the direction. They never waste a chance to exaggerate a Democratic lead. But it is noteworthy because there's being done four days later showing Democrat plus 14 does give you a bit of an idea of where this is going. And I got to tell you, Steve, after last, last night's debacle, the Republican Party came out looking very, very bad last night. So none of these interviews that we're talking about today takes into consideration the recent infighting that you've been seeing over the weekend, even into the early this week and then what happened last night. And I know that a lot of people want to dismiss the Epstein issue, but the fact of the matter is it's actually been pretty significant. It's been a demotivating factor. It's driven a lot of Republicans into, I don't want to say a malaise, but, you know, the idea that they're losing faith is probably an accurate idea. I mean, that's a, that's an accurate way.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Do you think, do you think that this, did you think any of this came up from Epstein to any, anything else, maybe not seeing the policies or however you want to define it, was the difference between what people thought, particularly New Jersey would be close versus and also Virginia, and that these turned out to be blowouts. These were double digits, I think 10 or 12 points in New Jersey and even more than that in Virginia. That part of that is already shown by the lack of motivation of maybe some of the people, particularly the lower propensity voters to turn out for these things. And that's a, that's a storm warning. It should be a storm warning for MAGA and a storm warning for the President and a storm warning for the Republicans.

[Richard Barris]

Sir, we're, we're reviewing, we're talking to Republican voters from those states right now and asking them why they didn't vote. What was the motivating factor. And especially in Virginia, people would think it was the government shutdown. Of course, that did hurt, but that's actually number three. And what we're seeing right now, number one and two, it tells a story. I mean, it's, I can tell you guys, it's Epstein and Israel, but Israel stands as a symbol of foreign policy. People are mad that the administration got sidelined with other things that they didn't really care about. Now we're going into the New year and people are concerned that the administration and Congress, the Republican Congress, while they have it, did not address the issues that he was elected to address. And by the way, many of them were elected kicking and screaming with Trump dragging them behind him, you know, were elected to address as well. So, I mean, it's actually a stunning result. Steve, I really thought in Virginia, easily, they were going to tell us it was the government shutdown. It's not, not even in Northern Virginia. And by the way, just let me say this. There's a Marquette poll out that's only Democrat plus five, which I can tell you, you know, some people are going to say when they watch this, but look at the field dates. Marquette was in the field on the 4th of November, this thing moved and it moved fast. People, people are getting the right needs a wake up call. I mean that's it. The right needs a wake up call and then.

[Steve K. Bannon]

But hang on faster.

[Richard Barris]

They're going to get crushed.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Let's even take Marquette. Although it's prepot. Let's take it as a marker. That's five. You're, you're a D plus eight. What is Maris's doubt And I understand Maris is not. Doesn't really fully incorporate ever. They always kind of miss MAGA, but it's another data point. What Maris is plus is Democrats plus 14 or plus 12.

[Brian Harrison]

14.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Okay. Okay folks, folks. When you get a generic ballot a year before midterm that shows you well, bearish. You tell me how many, how many D plus or R plus 14s have you ever seen? This is, that's the type of number you see on the Tea Party sweep. Tea party sweep of 2010 maybe, but zero. That's the highest you've ever seen?

[Richard Barris]

Yeah. I mean zero because as far as R plus because they did under. Polls did understate the Tea Party sweep. Honestly, the folks at Rasmussen and a few others back then were one of the only ones. They got made fun of it too. We're the only ones who at this time were forecasting a big Republican sweep was coming. And for people who say, oh, it's still early, it is, that's true. But guess what? Right about now the generic ballot does start to get pretty predictive. So it's people's views don't change at the last minute as much as people like to think they do. They start to believe now. They start to form a narrative and tell a story in their head. And those who are truly persuadable will start to decide much earlier than people think. And it's hard once those views and once those decisions are ingrained in their minds, it's very difficult to change their views and change the direction they want to go. So the time is running out for Republicans. They gotta, they gotta wake up, Steve. I mean that's it. That the excuse making and everything else has gotta stop. It's gotta stop.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Just need to get, just need to get back to the basis. If Scott Bessant, Scott Besson said the other day this theory, the case about the capital expenditures for the big beautiful bill getting expense plants starting to be built. You are getting some international here. I think people got to monitor that much closely or closer. He said the other day, Maria, it's probably the second quarter when you see the inflection point and this starts to get turbocharged is that that's not too late. Right. If you get, if you really start to have the economy kick in in the second quarter, it rolls through the summer, in the fall, that would obviously be a win to our back, sir.

[Richard Barris]

It would, that would, that would definitely give Republicans a boost. And when we put out this poll and started showing it around over the weekend, that's the story I got to from, from congressional Republicans. They were like, look, this is going to come back. It's going to give us, you know, this is going to give us the wind at our backs moving into the election. I mean, that's in part true, but working 90, 95 days in the next year is probably not going to cut it along with that. They have to be seen as doing things because the president might get a lot of credit. Steve, the president may see a rebound in his numbers, but that does not necessarily mean it's going to translate to report support for Republicans down ballot. They've had this problem for 10 years.

[Steve K. Bannon]

I haven't put it up yet because I can't believe it. Scalise put out, who's the majority leader. He put out the calendar for next year. I think this is going around Grace and Mo, if you can put it up and if we, if Denver's got it, they can put it up. Hold. It has how many115.115 days of work?

[Richard Barris]

Yeah, I, I actually was told it was 95 by somebody, but there you go. There's the calendar. I guess we could add it up now that we're looking at it, but this is a joke.

[Steve K. Bannon]

I think it's a hundred. But let's say this is less than a third. What does that signal to people? Now, I understand in a midterm you got August research, you take October off to run. But when I sit there and go, I call them the Duma, and I said, hey, your number one thing should be trying to implement the executive orders of Trump because we have to codify these things into laws. They go, well, it's too hard. We don't have the Senate. It's every excuse in the book. But you've got to be there. You should be having hearings. There's so much going on out there, so much corruption of the Democrats. We should, the Judiciary Committee should work eight days a week. So, and they should be in session constantly. And I realize people say, hey, we don't want them there because they just do more damage than they do. But they've Got to send a message to the American people that they're working non stop in their behalf, don't they?

[Richard Barris]

Steve, if we took this to a voter right now, we took this to an average Republican voter and asked them that question, what they would say, well, why can't Mike Johnson work as, as hard, hard for us as he works for Ukraine? Why can't Mike Johnson work as hard for us as he works for Israel? I mean, believe you me, if that schedule was on a break and something happened in the Middle east and their friend needed another $2 or $3 billion check, they would make sure that they got it done for them. I mean, voters are over this. This excuse is, you know, it's either cowardice or corruption. That's what, that's what Republican and Republican leaning independents are seeing right now when they look at that, you know, the House of Representatives, not just them, but the, the Senate as well, you know. So that's what I would tell them. You. If Zelensky needed, you know, another $5 billion, they would get it to him, Steve. Right? I mean, come on. This is, it's always the American voter who doesn't get prioritized. And then when they're getting, getting their, you know, you know, their asses kicked, they're wondering why the Republican voter doesn't want to come out and vote. Well, they're going to fight for you about as hard as you fight for them. So just consider that when you make your schedule. Scalise, that's it.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Don't put it public if you're not going to show you putting efforts.

[Richard Barris]

Humiliating. Humiliating.

[Steve K. Bannon]

It's ridiculous. Barris, where, where do people go for the people? Pundit, sir.

[Richard Barris]

Yeah, we're everywhere, Steve, but the best place is on locals. Peoplespundent.locals.com peoplespundent.locals dot com there's more polling coming, guys. Get ready for the states. You're gonna love them. That's sarcastic.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Okay, thank you for. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Joe Allen's with me. Michelle Morrow is going to. Let's tee up. Let's tee. Let's tease right now what we're going to come back with. There's, there's, they what did they slip into the. I warned you they were under. They couldn't do in the big beautiful bill because this audience stopped them and humiliated Ted Cruz. These guys, Ted Cruz and Ted Cruz. I don't want to hear your happy talk because you're the Israel first candidate. You're going to do this. You're going to do this. People are bad. You're a total and complete scumbag. He's trying to slip this into the NDA, right? Right now. Tell us what's going on. He's, he's owned by Israel first and he's owned by the Tech Bros. He's the running dog of the Tech Bros. So what's Cruz and these guys up to?

[Joe Allen]

Even worse, Steve, he's a Canadian.

[Steve K. Bannon]

So he is a Canadian.

[Richard Barris]

Yeah.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Ted Cruz, by the way, by the way, the RJC ought to check that out out before they start putting big dollars into his cruise. 2028.

[Richard Barris]

Yeah, Ted Cruz is leading the effort. Steve Scalise, also on board.

[Steve K. Bannon]

You have the push to introduce something like the AI moratorium. We don't know what it is.

[Joe Allen]

It's all being done behind closed doors.

[Richard Barris]

But Scalise reported to Punchbowl News that they are trying to introduce some kind.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Of federal preemption on states rights to regulate AI. Let's get this, let's get this. Let's get the punch bowl. We'll put it up. Joe Allen's in the house. The war room posse's going to the ramparts. We stopped this before, we will stop it again. Short commercial break. Back in the war in a moment.

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[Michelle Morrow]

Are you hearing and seeing there?

[Joe Allen]

Well, Anna, just 30 minutes ago, border Patrol agents were spotted on the premises right here at a nonprofit in Charlotte which provides childcare services for refugee families and for immigrant families. And it really caused quite the fear. It's the second time this week they were spotted here. But that is not scaring the volunteers here from pushing forward. They're continuing to gather donations of essential goods like water, like milk, everyday items that families need to feed themselves, to feed their children, that they are afraid to go outside of their homes and get all throughout the city of Charlotte, given the uncertainty of the repercussions. Now, the one beautiful thing about what has happened here today is the number of community members who we've seen coming in and out of these doors, dropping off food, dropping off medicine, essential items. I want to introduce you to the leader of this nonprofit, our Bridge for Kids, Salma Villarreal. Salma, thank you so much for joining us. Just break down what happened just a half hour ago. How is it impacting you personally and how is it impacting the children who you service?

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[Steve K. Bannon]

So within 24 hours, custom border Patrol.

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Has had to enter the properties that.

[Michelle Morrow]

Host all of these nonprofits that support.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Immigrants three or four times.

[Michelle Morrow]

And they have one goal, to instill.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Fear, to make the places that our.

[Michelle Morrow]

Community felt the most safe in not be safe anymore.

[Richard Barris]

That is what they're doing.

[Steve K. Bannon]

And so personally, you know, myself, it's.

[Michelle Morrow]

It's disheartening.

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[Steve K. Bannon]

MSNBC is now Ms. Wow. It's like the sham. Remember the guy with the head, the wow. Shammy or whatever was it? Well, shammy, Mississippi, Miss. Wow. No, you're supporting insurrection right there. You're supporting the breaking of the law right there. They're not there to intimidate or fear. They're in there to get illegal alien invaders and help Them escort them out of the country as politely as possible. But you're going. Michelle Moore ran for the secretary of education in Carolina, North Carolina. Michelle, correct me if I'm wrong, 30,000 students did not show up in Charlotte the other day because of the enforcement. President Trump sending folks down their ICE to enforce the immigration laws of the United States of America. I think that's what, 21%, 25% of the school population, ma'. Am.

[Salma Villarreal]

Yes, sir, you're exactly right. Not just been happening in Charlotte, but when you look at that, you look at, I think it was 28,000 students did not show up for school on Monday. You have to ask yourself, does that mean that there are 56,000 illegal parents that are right there just in that one school district? And for your listeners that don't know, North Carolina has 115 school districts and Wake is now the largest. We've actually surpassed Mecklenburg for the number of students that we have. And they sent out a notice saying that they were going to be doing online learning for those students that were scared to come to school and they were wanting to help the parents to basically hide their children. This is, this is the point. Correction is actually painful. And we all know that. And we what President Trump is trying to do is he's trying to correct the last 20 years of the Democrats flooding our nation with people that don't want to be Americans. They just want the benefit of living in our country. And the time now is if you are fearful, then you should self deport yourself. I'm pretty sure that Tom Holman has stated that you can get $1,000 per person and you can get help with a plane fare or some type of transport to your country of origin. Why are we not pursuing that? Why did the Democrats, if they're so concerned about illegal immigration, if they're so concerned about our immigrants, why for the last four years when Biden was in office, were they not helping to streamline the system so people could become citizens of the United States? The Democrats have to remember something. They were in power for 12 years under Bo as well as under Biden, and they had every opportunity to make sure that people that wanted to be Americans could have become Americans and they did nothing. And for them to act like they're totally shocked and surprised is ridiculous. President Trump has never been shy since he started running for president in 2015. About the fact that we have got to ensure that Americans are put first.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Michelle, about these saying they're going to let them, you know, get an American education paid for by taxpayers in North Carolina and in the country that they're going to do it remote. You know, who would log on? I mean, was President Trump got to go to court. Does ICE have to go in and start arresting the teachers? If you're going to, if you're going to try to let them hide. The point is all illegal alien invaders in the country have to leave. And they're not trying to be harsh about this. It's just a fact. So how do we get to the, how do we get now to the online aspect of it and don't let them use that to kind of shelter people.

[Salma Villarreal]

Well, to your point about breaking the law and these people are aiding and abetting, the entire school system is doing that. But, Steve, it hasn't just been this Since President Trump sent down his orders, his executive orders, that there was not gonna have any more dei, we weren't gonna be promoting the LGBTQ nonsense. Whole school districts are actually bragging about the fact that they're still doing that. I mean, shockingly, the only thing that to work is when we take away their money. It was very frustrating when the. The federal government told us that we were not going to get our funding for schools because we were not following the law. And our Democrat attorney general put up a stink that he was going to sue the federal government, and they caved. They caved. The Education Department caved within, like three weeks. That's the only recourse that we have is to start making people pay penalties for their crimes. And honestly, we can even explore, extrapolate that to everything in society. When we have our school system, which is the largest expenditure in the entire state of North Carolina, 52% of all of our tax money goes to public education in, in this state. And we're looking at that. We, the taxpayers, are the ones that are funding for all these people to be using our sources and to be spending the time of our law enforcement instead of protecting our communities. We're having to do this because you're willingly aiding and abetting Michelle.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Where do people get you on social media? Man, we wish we had you as the head of the Department of Education in Carolina. Where do people go to find you, ma', am.

[Salma Villarreal]

Is where I am on Insta and X and on Facebook.

[Steve K. Bannon]

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