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Steve Bannon
Get started today at 844-844-IHeart or iHeartadvertising.com. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies cause we're going with medieval on these people. Christians not get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
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Judge Troopas
Country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon (War Room Host)
War Room here's your host, Stephen k.
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Judge Troopas
Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Wednesday 19th November Year of Alert 2025 thank you for sticking around for the second hour of the War Room. Mike Davis is going to join us about the situation in Texas with the redistricting. He's also got a lot to say about this artificial intelligence. Mike Davis leading effort about the intellectual property side of this and how the AI companies are because their avarice and greed know no Bounds because they don't want to pay you for any of the intellectual property you've ever had. Mike Davis leading that effort. Remember the Internet Accountability Project, the great Rachel Bovard, Gail Slater, who's now over at Main Justice Antitrust. All these warriors kind of came out of this movement. Get to in a second. Okay. Is Grace, I think a bill blaster has the list of names you're going to mention. Some folks explain to people we beat this back in August or September with the big beautiful bill, what they try to do. And this goes back to the Electoral Count act of 1887 that unconstitutional illegal changes to it. When they have something that's so controversial that they know that they can't win any debate on a national basis, the people will rise up and say, we're not going to do this. And they'll tell the congressman, if you vote for this, you're out. Or Senator, they can't break cloture. Their game is to take the most controversial things and just slide it in in the middle of the night in a 9,000 page must pass. They did this on the end. The Electoral Count act of 1887 was a couple of years ago when Romney and all these guys. And what that tried to do was chop block us on what the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act 1887. To talk about contingent elections, okay? And how you get there and how the count is done of the electoral votes, all of that. They couldn't even vote these things out of committee. So they slipped it into an ndaa. Excuse me, excuse me. Correct omnibus bill a couple of years ago that had to be passed. Now after we beat Cruz and these guys back, remember this happened in the middle of the night. Cruz was gonna slide it in, Marsha Blackburn came out, Josh Hawley came out, the worm got on it and we beat it back from the big beautiful bill, this moratorium. And what this moratorium does is just full accelerationists with no controls whatsoever. No even discussion. Okay? And I understand there's some issues of giving the states all the rights to do it, but hey, if you're not going to have a conversation and you're not going to put any guardrails at all, I'm sorry. This is what's going to happen. And one of the conversations we have to have, and we have to have it right now, the American people. And I want somebody in the government, the treasury secretary or vote or somebody who knows the math can't be Lutnick because he's a fricking clown. But give me Somebody that's actually logical to walk us through on a national conversation. What is the math about the rollout of artificial intelligence data? If it's just guys building apps or working on artificial intelligence itself, you wouldn't have an issue. But the fact that you have to have these data centers that are going to suck up, like every piece of power on Earth. So you have to build trillions of dollars of new data centers in your neighborhood. Oh, by the way, then we also had to finance the power. And these guys who were the head of all the climate change for years, where all the climate change for years now they want to build nuclear reactors against every. They want to do anything possible. They'll burn buffalo chips, leaves. They don't care how dirt, the dirtiest coal West Virginia and Pennsylvania have. They'll do it. I got Mike Davis. Okay, hang on.
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Judge Troopas
Give me.
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Steve Bannon
So give me a summary before I get Mike Davis on of exactly what they're trying to slide into here.
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Stephen K. Bannon (War Room Host)
All right, so Steve Scalise, as reported by Punchbowl News, is saying that led by Ted Cruz, they are pushing to introduce something like the moratorium that we beat down last summer. The moratorium last summer would have blocked states from any regulation on artificial intelligence that would impede national agendas on building AI. So what we're talking about, starting from day two of Trump's presidency, people who want to basically put up the new mosque, put data centers in as many places as possible in America and across the world to build artificial general and then artificial superintelligence. But just put all that aside. What you have right now are kids killing themselves at the urging of AI. You have schools rolling it out everywhere, hospitals rolling it out everywhere, government agencies rolling it out everywhere. Zero meaningful federal legislation. And you have states all over the country trying their best to, to at least control, if not block, the worst effects of this. And so what would happen if they slide this in? Assuming it has the same teeth, the same teeth as the previous attempts, it would block or impede any state trying to put age gating on apps, trying to save data from being hoovered up by these companies, especially children. And intellectual property theft, which is a huge legal battle that the federal government right now has done nothing to address.
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Steve Bannon
So pin a pin in the first second and come back to you. Mike Davis joins us. Mike, I've got you up here on other topics, particularly the redistricting, but you're the leader in this effort. Tell me about the intellectual property side. You've got a letter that you're putting out about this, why is this, why is this legislation they're trying to slip into another 9000 page must pass NDAA that they don't want to have a discussion about in the dark of night? What is the issue with this, sir?
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Mike Davis
Yeah, here we go again. Remember back in late June, we saw the tech bros, Big tech and their tech bros try to push through this AI amnesty on must pass legislation. And then we called them out with the War room Posse Article 3 project, teamed up with the War Room Posse and this went down 99 to 1 including the lead sponsor, Ted Cruz voting against his own measure. We're back at it again. We have Ted Cruz trying to push air amnesty again. What they want to do is have federal preemption, they say, but they don't want any rules of the road. So they don't want state or local governments to be able to do anything about AI. But then when they do federal preemption, the federal preemption is just blanket amnesty because there's no state or local and there's no federal right. If we're going to do federal preemption, it has to be done through legislation, it has to be done through the regular process, regular order where people can debate, they can vote, they can have amendments. And if you go through the regular process, we need to protect what I call the four C's. We need to protect conservatives from censorship, we have to protect children from predators, we have to protect creators from copyright theft and we have to protect communities. So for example, as you were saying Steve, we don't put data centers in the middle of residential neighborhoods. We don't jack up energy prices all over America to fuel these AI data centers. And then we leave working class Americans who can barely make ends meet left footing the energy bills because of these energy spikes from these air centers. We cannot repeat the mistakes that we made back in 1996 was section 230. This amnesty we gave to the tech platforms that led to the trillion dollar big tech monopolist, Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple that crush conservatives, shutter small businesses and destroy our economy and destroy competition. We cannot allow that to happen. This Amnesty is section230 on steroids and we cannot have it where we're trying to jam this through Congress and must pass legislation in the middle of the night. Again, I don't understand why these big tech platforms are scared of the regular legislative process. If they think that they have such a great idea, why can't they have debates and votes and amendments on it.
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Steve Bannon
To cloud to make it murky? And I Think even the guy, the press, they're saying that, that like a Mike Davis, in your argument, you're defending the woke. We're going to have woke. It's the exact opposite. They're saying, oh, you get some of these blue states, you're going to have woke. AI let's. I just want to go through the argument again, the four Cs and why they're so. And if these people thought that they had, if they had the righteousness on their side, we would have a full national debate on this right now. They know they don't have the votes. This is Cruz, that scumbag, trying to slide it in. Months ago we outed him. He turned around and voted for it. The exact opposite. And now the Canadian Israel first Ted Cruz is trying to slide it in again, outed by the media the other day. But go through Mike one more time. The four basic, your punch list of the four Cs.
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Mike Davis
Well, let me just say this. This is the same Ted Cruz who handpicked in 2019 a Texas federal judge who just threw out Texas's redistricting plan and gave essentially gave the House of Representatives to Democrats. So I don't think Ted Cruz has a good track record right now. But the four seats we have, we have to protect the four Cs. If we're going to do federal preemption so we can compete against China as they pretend we have to steal like China to compete against China. We need to have slave labor like China to compete against China. But if we're going to, if we're going to do federal preemption so we can coddle these trillion dollar big tech platforms because apparently the big tech platforms are the only, it's the only industry in America that can't navigate the states. But if we're going to do federal preemption, they need to protect the four Cs. They have to protect conservatives from censorship, they have to protect children from predators. For example, there's the teddy bear that has AI that talks sexual explicitly to kids. I call it the pedo bear. Does Ted Cruz want states to be able to say that we can't sell pedo bears to kids or do we need to sell pedo bears to kids in order to compete against China? Right. We have to sell pedal bears like China to compete against China. And so we have, then we have, so we have conservatives children, we have communities. We can't put a data centers in the middle of residential neighborhoods. We can't jack up the energy prices, the water prices to subsidize these trillion dollar AI platforms and then we need to protect creators, content creators. We can't rip off every copyright in America to so called train their machines. We have to steal like China to compete against China. We need to rip off these copyrights so every creative, every creator in America doesn't get compensated for their copyrights and they go out of business so we can, so we can compete against China so we can make the big tech platforms trillions of dollars. Hell no.
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Steve Bannon
Where do where do people go on Article 3 right now? Because we're going to the ramparts all day today. We only got a day or two to get on top of this because we're trying to slide it in the middle of article three where they go right now. Mike?
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Mike Davis
Yeah, it's article three project.org article number three project.org and if you take action it's on the screen right now. The War Room Posse should go to this action item. It's tell Congress to ensure that they don't include the 10 year AI amnesty and the National Defense Authorization Act. This is must pass legislation. If you, if you go to here this will help you email both of your home state senators along with your U.S. house representative. You can do patch through phone calls to all three of those offices and you should and you should also light them up on social media and our phone to action on our article 3 projects action page makes it very easy for the War Room Posse to do all of those things.
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Steve Bannon
You gotta bounce. I know this. Just give me a minute on Texas. I had Brian Harrison on start the show. This is and hey not saying Ted Cruz's judge, you know is Ted Cruz wants Trump impeached. Far be it for me to say that but this is DEFCON 2 is it not sir?
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Mike Davis
Yeah. So we have a cruise hand selected federal judge who threw out the Texas redistricting maps on a three judge panel. We have a very good federal appellate judge who was on this panel who wrote a dissent. I just published a FoxNews.com opinion piece this morning on this. The Supreme Court needs to fix this. We can't have it where California can redistrict and pick up five House seats and then when Texas does it they get thrown out by a Ted Cruz judge. That's, that's just not how it's supposed to work. And we're going to lose the House if we don't fix this.
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Steve Bannon
We're going to put this up now. I'm a track you down either for this afternoon or tomorrow morning. We got to get you back on Mike Davis one more time. Social media Article three project. You got to go today, folks. Where do they go?
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Mike Davis
Article3project.org you can donate. Follow us on Social media The most important thing the War Room posse does is action, action, action. We need to light up Congress on this AI amnesty today. Thank you, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you. Thank you, brother.
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Judge Troopas
See you later.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, we're gonna take a short break. Philip Packos, who are going to talk capital markets. One of the great patriots and heroes in this country is about to join us live in the War Room for the next couple of segments. Gonna be a surprise. When we come back, Joe Allen's gonna hang around because we're gonna get back to this stick right there, Joe. I gotta keep Joe close at hand here. Be known to wander. Short commercial break. Back in the worm in a moment. America's home.
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Judge Troopas
Go on.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, we're up all time on on Getter. One of my favorite, one of the great patriots, Judge Troupas. You are so extraordinary to have you in here today. Thank you for coming.
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Judge Troopas
I certainly appreciate it. Great to meet you.
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Steve Bannon
Well, it's fantastic what you've done for the president and the country and what you've gone through. We're gonna get to all that in a second. The journey, trials and tribulations. Talk about people putting it on. Judge Troupas is one of them. Philip. Patrick. Hey, Philip, I got you on here. This article in the Financial Times. Please decipher this for me. I want Grayson Mo to put this out everywhere in Elizabeth and make sure people can read it. It's got gold plated fomo, powers, bullions, record breaking rally. Is that what's driving? Is that the purchases of the central banks of the Chinese Communist Party in Europe that are driving gold, sir?
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Philip Patrick
Absolutely. We've seen record setting central bank gold buying. As I've said before, the pace of this buying is escalating. The last recorded quarter, the third quarter of this year, central bank set a new record, beating the previous quarter record by 28%. So the velocity is increasing. It's being driven predominantly by China, India and others. And like I said, I don't think it's going to stop.
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Steve Bannon
Why are they, this is the fear of missing out. Why are these central banks that have a better idea of the de dollarization, they have a better idea of the power of different currencies, the relative power currencies. Why are the central banks? I think people are saying, hey, I can understand maybe if it's individual investors, institutional investors, maybe even money center banks, but when Central banks do it. And I think it's now three or four quarters in a row, maybe two years in a row, that every quarter they're continuing to do it. Why did they have the fear of missing out? Why are they the FOMO powers?
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Philip Patrick
Look, I don't know if it's necessarily a fear of missing out. When it comes to central banks. We're seeing that certainly with retail investors, institutional investors, with prices moving as they are, what was traditionally a safe haven asset is now being viewed as a growth asset. I think for central banks it's a little bit different. There's structural shifts happening. I think there's two drivers. We've got to remember the dollar is the global reserve currency. We've been printing it like it's going out of fashion. So what that does is it leads to devaluation and it incentivizes central banks to start seeking alternatives. The dollar has lost 25% of its purchasing power in the last five years. That is a major problem. Gold today is a better trade than that. Gold is up 60% this year. It's up significantly since COVID significantly more than that. So it is a better trade. The other side of it is what we discussed many, many times, which is weaponization. We've put many countries around the world in a very tough position. Russia don't have an ability to transact in dollars anymore. They have to find alternatives. 98% of their bilateral trade agreements today bypass the US dollar. We force that. China. China need to de dollarize. Longer term, their position is a little bit nuanced. They're heavily dependent on trade with us and the West. But long term they are de dollarizing and gold is the best means to do that. At the end of the day, as troublesome as the dollar is today, when it comes to currencies, it's the best one out there. Significant network effects, very strong. Gold is a solid alternative and central banks are moving in that direction. We have to remember that was always the way right Prior to the 80s, gold was the overwhelming share of central bank reserves. We saw that shattered in the 80s. But we're seeing a reversion back to what has always been the historical norm. So I think for central banks this is a structural shift as opposed to fomo.
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Steve Bannon
Now this is what we talked about on a couple of weeks ago. We had you on Saturday last thing. Beside dollar holdings, the second biggest category now is not US government securities, it's gold. Is that correct as an asset class?
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Philip Patrick
It's absolutely correct. Gold is the number two Global Reserve asset. It hit that last year, only 20% of Global Reserve. Today in the 80s it was over 70%. And I believe over the next half a decade we're going to start to see a shift back towards that. This isn't just a US Problem when it comes to debt and deficit. This is a Western problem. Debt to GDP amongst Western nations averages 110%. It's not like there are many better alternatives and I think gold will continue to benefit from that.
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Steve Bannon
No, but what they're telling you, the market's telling you that you don't need to legislate a gold standard, which people try to do that forever. You know, the Rand Paul crowd, the market's going to drive this. Right? You're seeing that we're going to get back quickly to the 19th century as far as gold. Philip Patrick, how do people work with you guys? Explain it all. We got the End of the Dollar Empire. Make a huge announcement. Philip Patrick's going to be an amfest with us. We're going to be broadcasting for all three or four days. Philip Patrick's going to be there live. We're going to have a major announcement and rollout. We're getting ready to get launched the print edition of the End of the Dollar Empire. Remember when we started with Philip Patrick, gold was at eleven hundred dollars an ounce. Now over four thousand. And it's not the price, it's the process is what drives the value of gold as a hedge against times of financial turbulence. Philip, what's the easiest way for people to start working with you and your team?
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Philip Patrick
Very simple. Go to birchgold.com forward/bannon. Get the information again, birchgold.com forward slash bannon. Or they can text Bannon to 989-898 get the information. End of the Dollar Empire reports investor guides on how and why to to invest in precious metals. So as I always do, encourage people to get that information read, get educated and go from there. So birchgold.com Bannon or they can reach me at Philippatrick on getter.
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Steve Bannon
Let's turn into that today. Thank you so much, Philip, for making. By the way, it was a call shot by you four weeks ago about this entire thing, this structural change. So great, great on you, sir. Appreciate you.
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Philip Patrick
Thank you, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
So the President of the United States is going to be leaving the White House at 11:30 momentarily. We'll cover it all. He's going to be going over to the Kennedy Center. They're going to have a investment seminar of Saudi Arabia. I think MBS is going to speak. We're going to cover it all here live on Real America's Voice. Probably the Charlie Kirk show will pick up a lot of that. But we're waiting for the president to leave momentarily. We've got a bunch of other major items we've got to get to. First off, once again, thank you. Thank you for coming and thank you for having me. So I think we, in the darkest days of the steal of 2020, I think we had you on a couple times. Of course, you were very prominent here in D.C. defending the President, et cetera. Walk us through your journey. Why are people still coming after you? Because you're a solid as a rock judge from Wisconsin. Why would they pick on one of the heartland's America's best, sir?
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Judge Troopas
Well, I think there's two reasons now. Number one, it's sending a message. It's the Democrats are the Democrats.
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Steve Bannon
If we can destroy a guy as renowned as Judge Trophiz. Trophiz, they can destroy anybody and they.
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Judge Troopas
Won'T hesitate at anything. I said I have A list of 17 separate legal actions they have brought against me for. What was your.
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Steve Bannon
What did you actually do? What is in history, you're known as the guy that did what we in.
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Judge Troopas
Wisconsin did a recount, a legitimate recount. We asserted legal claims that would have taken out over 200,000 votes. Three members of our state Supreme Court, including the chief justice of the court, agreed with us and would have overturned the election in Wisconsin. That's what we did. In order to preserve the president's rights to appeal to the United States Supreme Court, we used alternate electors, a process that literally the attorney general of Wisconsin told us to use in a December 1, 2020 filing. So the very person who is now prosecuting me for a felony for doing it told us to do it.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. We get to all that. I want to hit rewind when you say we did a recount and we found 200,000 ballots that had to be tossed out and that would have changed the election. Electoral College votes. Just walk me through that. Because a lot of people we've had the audience has grown in the show 10 times. There are a lot of people who are not with us in the darkest days of 2020, when you really stood in the breach and said, hey, this thing's got to get sorted.
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Judge Troopas
So as a result of COVID they changed all the rules in Wisconsin. The legislature didn't change them. I helped write the election statute in Wisconsin. I was one of two citizen members on a bipartisan commission that in 2005, 2006, rewrote the election laws and the recount laws in Wisconsin. So when the president's people called, they were calling, forgive me, the expert on recounts in Wisconsin. The moment we looked at the election and I had no relationship with Donald Trump before that.
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Steve Bannon
You had no ax in this. You were just the guy. But you were the guy that was considered the ax in the space.
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Judge Troopas
Every no one was surprised that he would call me because I was the expert on recount, on election law in Wisconsin. So we looked at it and within days we isolated four specific items that had been violated by the changes caused by Covid, hypothetically by Covid, including changing ballots, changing ballot envelopes, having people vote that claimed disability that didn't have it, misusing the entire election process, the process by which the envelopes are submitted by absentee.
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Steve Bannon
The reason this was big, I just want to go back because Wisconsin has the tightest regulations about voting. Walk through that. People say, well, Wisconsin is very liberal. I said, now when it comes to voting, not those days, it was so tight, you want to vote, you show up and vote, Right?
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Judge Troopas
Yes. We do not have a advanced voting statute. We have an absentee ballot. Voting is by statute in the law. Voting absentee is a privilege, not a right. And any ballot not cast slavishly in exact under the statute is in the statute, in the statute cannot be counted. Okay. We were not, we did not assert fraud in a broad way or things we didn't have. We knew specific people. We isolated every 240,000 people, the names, the date at the time they voted and where they voted.
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Steve Bannon
You don't think the 2020 election is stolen? Hey, hang on, we're taking a short commercial break. The reason you caught some of them, they went up on Facebook and started mocking. They went on Facebook later, I'm in Aspen, Colorado. I said, you know, they lied. This was the most egregious. In your face. It took a hero. You know, they went to the Mr. Smith goes to Washington guy that, that no. So I blame it. And you know what? Ever since then, his life has been hell and people stood by and let that happen. Short commercial break Judge Troupas from Wisconsin in the.
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Stephen K. Bannon (War Room Host)
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Steve Bannon
Okay, you saw that analysis by and we've got the Financial Times article up about the central banks. You know the fear of missing out by the central banks of the world who are pretty smart hombres. Make sure you go to Birchgold. Take your phone at simplest way. Text Bannon B A N N O N 989-898. Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals. Do not forget silver, which has been on a tear. And talk to Philip Patrick. That's the key. Get to Philip Patrick team. Do it today. Ultimate guide for investing in Gold and precious metal in the Age of Trump. One of my favorite people, Judge Troupas is with us from Wisconsin. The great state of Alabama is about to represent right now. Captain Morgan Murphy. You know we love Coach and I know coaches. I know Coach is going to go back and run for the governor of Alabama. He's one of our frequent guests here. Captain, rumor has it people are telling me that you're going to run to replace him, sir.
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Captain Morgan Murphy
That's right. I just launched Steve Last month, I jumped in the race. I worked for Coach. I was his national security adviser. Also worked for President Trump in the first and the second term. And I just said to, I said to Tuberville, I said, I can't sit on the sidelines and watch a rhino take your seat. You know, he's the strongest MAGA voice in the Senate. He was the very first senator to endorse President Trump in this last election. And for some reason, really, ruby red states sends squishes to Washington. Deep blue states send people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders to D.C. but deep red states, I mean, we've got one Southern senator who actually voted to impeach Donald Trump. I don't know why that is, but that's why I got in the race, because I just couldn't sit this one out.
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Steve Bannon
Were you his national security advisor when he held up these, held up the promotions of these guys because of all the DEI and wokeness over at the Pentagon that Biden and these guys refused to take out? You were there with him then?
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Captain Morgan Murphy
I was right there in the trench with him. And, man, he was the only one that stood up. And there was, there are a lot of guys in D.C. who talk about, oh, we're going to stop this and we're going to stand up to people and I'm going to get up there and I'm going to be a fighter, whatever. You know what, when the, when the chips came down the country club that is the Senate, there are very few people there who are willing to fight. And Coach is one of them. He stood alone in the breach.
- [34:58]
Steve Bannon
But hang on. But this, hang on, hang on, hang on. But this is the point. Coach goes up there and he can't stand it. He just said it's a, you know, it's just a debating society. So he's going back to Alabama to run for governor. You've been one of his, you've been one of his warriors on his staff in the top thing. Aren't you better served or don't you better serve the president and the country now going back in the administration, maybe we get you over the Department of War to help clean out the mess over there instead of running in what's going to be a debating society, sir?
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Captain Morgan Murphy
Well, we've got to have MAGA voices in the Senate. There is a deep state and deep Republican establishment, Republican plot to get rid of maga. I mean, you know this. They hate maga. They hated us. When, when Coach and I came in, in 2021, we were the scum of the earth. They couldn't wait to get rid of us and they cannot wait to get rid of us on January 20th, 2029. They want Trump to fly off in Marine One. They want to wash their hands of MAGA. They want to wash their Hands of America first. And we can't lose the Senate while Trump is high in the saddle right now. We need MAGA voices to be in the Senate now.
- [36:06]
Steve Bannon
Captain, you are speaking the gospel truth on that. They're trying to tap Trump along and they can't wait till he takes off. This is why you're seeing them all cratering, these redistricting. They don't care if he gets impeached in this midterm. Captain, where do people go? We'll have you back on where do people go for your campaign right now in the great state of Alabama?
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Captain Morgan Murphy
Hey murphy4senate.com or follow me on Twitter @morganww Murphy but I'd love you to go check out my website and take a look at all my plank and platform. I think the MAGA faithful will be intrigued.
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Steve Bannon
I think that somebody that worked as one of the wingmen for Coach Tuberville, that's a pretty high, that's a pretty high recommendation, sir. Thank you so much for coming.
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Captain Morgan Murphy
Thank you, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Murphy was there in those dark days when Tuberville stood alone. He stood alone and against all the games that Lindsey Graham's and all that crap up there, he stood alone to make sure he got the wokeness out of the, out of the department of War in the darkest days. Speaking of dark days, I want to go back because people memories fade but you were one of the true heroes because it wasn't like you were a MAGA acolyte. You were the expert in the state. They turned to you and you saw as an honest citizen, man, this is not the way that Wisconsin should roll. You were very upset about it. And that's why remember you had no staff, no team. I think three or 4,000 people came immediately. This recount was done, folks, in two weeks or three weeks.
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Judge Troopas
Right.
- [37:30]
Steve Bannon
And in November, I mean you work through the Thanksgiving holidays to do this.
- [37:33]
Judge Troopas
Because the dead 20 hours a day.
- [37:35]
Steve Bannon
The great folks, many were in policy, the great folks in Wisconsin said this is not the way our state's going to run.
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Judge Troopas
That's exactly right. People keep forgetting you properly call it the dark days. I mean here, for example, I was not the first people that anyone called. You know, I wasn't the lawyers to be from the big law firms who are paid millions of dollars by Donald Trump and his team for years, who just abandoned him on November 5th. I mean, abandoned him. Cowards is what I called them at the U.S. senate. The large law firms are cowards. They get up to the trough in Washington is what happens. So when I was called and I first turned it down, I said, I don't have any staff. I don't have anybody. And then I got mad on the Monday morning when I heard on national television that all the big law firms were turning the president down. And I. And I called and I said, I'll do it. And we created a whole cloth, as you said, a volunteer organization. And thank you to you and others. The 4,000 volunteers came from everywhere in the country. We had no organization. We had no legal team. We created it on a whole cloth overnight. And in three weeks, we recounted all, more than almost 2 million votes in the state of Wisconsin in that process, by hand. By hand. We literally went through everyone and those wonderful volunteers who came forward to do that. So we're working 24 hours a day. We're concerned like every. I'm concerned because I've been a lawyer for almost five decades. The first question you ask is, what's my deadline? Because if you miss a deadline, gone, that's legal malpractice at its highest level. And we were working for the President of the United States. I figured, well, let's get it right. So, you know, we analyzed it right away, and we determined that our actual date was January 6th. Al Gore blew this. Here's a great example. The great irony of this is, had Al Gore's lawyers done their job in 2000, he probably would have been president. I'm not making that up down in Florida.
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Philip Patrick
Correct.
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Judge Troopas
Right. And I worked on the recount in Florida, and part of my team worked on the recount for Gore in Florida. And they told me right away, look, we blew it. We said the deadline was the day the electors meet. The real deadline is January 6th. Now, wait a minute. I'm not making it up. Two members of the United States Supreme Court, both liberals, wrote a footnote in the Bush v. Gore opinion, saying, hey, by the way, you'd have won if you just quoted the right date. And before the election, the Democrats were proudly telling their constituents that they were going to use alternate delegates. So it wasn't a surprise when we said, okay, we've got. We've got to have alternate slate available to keep our deadlines open. We're talking about a big case going to go to the U.S. supreme Court, we need to make sure we preserve our rights. That's what we did with the alternate electors, and we announced it publicly. So now they make this idea.
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Steve Bannon
But more importantly, say you went to the. You went to the Attorney General of State and walked through the plan and it was approved.
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Judge Troopas
They approved it on December 1st in a filing. They told the court. They were asked by the court, what's the deadline? And they said, oh, on behalf of the government of the state of Wisconsin and the Attorney General's office, it's not December 14, it's January 6. The president of the United States has zero chance of losing his rights so long as he uses alternate delegates. Again, not making it up, because you can look at our pleadings@judgetrupas.com they're all there. And in the pleading, on December 12th, I announced publicly, we are going to do this because the Attorney General told us to do it. Now there are 25 lawyers on the other side. I mean, we're like three people, right? 25 lawyers, including former solicitor generals, people on behalf of Biden, everybody. Not one of them. Not one of them ever said that a single argument we made in Wisconsin was frivolous. Not one second. They conceded in the pleadings that our facts were correct. Those voters voted contrary to the statute as we interpreted it. They did not dispute that we had properly identified all 240,000. Third, they said that if that they could have objected. They never objected. They never said, don't meet. They never said it's a felony. Now, the attorney General has. And three members of our Supreme Court voted with us. This wasn't like anywhere else in the country. I don't know about what happened.
- [42:07]
Steve Bannon
Slow down. Give us that again.
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Judge Troopas
Apologize. I'll go fast.
- [42:10]
Steve Bannon
No, no. Why was it not like anywhere in the country?
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Judge Troopas
Because we identified the specific voters by name, by address, by precinct, by date of vote that we said were invalid. So there was no guessing. We knew that. And we had a. We have a procedure in Wisconsin.
- [42:30]
Steve Bannon
It's the reason they have to destroy you. You understand this? They have to destroy you because of that fact.
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Judge Troopas
That's fair. That's. I've come to think. I've come to think that. I mean, I. I thought I was a little. A lawyer in a backwater pond, a place I love in Wisconsin. I had no idea that I'd become the centerpiece of their attacks.
- [42:48]
Steve Bannon
Because you're a good and decent man. That we're doing this for the country and for the state of Wisconsin. That's who they have to destroy. Most of all, they hate the partisans. But the guys are just sitting there going, hey, this thing was stolen because you got these. That's the guy they got to destroy because they have to send a message to everybody else. This is why the big law firms are all cowards. The big law firms understood one thing. If we do this, they're going to come after us hard. And we're not going to do that because we like making money.
- [43:12]
Judge Troopas
I think what's really surprised me since all of this, and mind you, you've been through it so many people. I mean, I cried for the people and that went to the Capitol and ended up in jail. I was really sad much of that time because I would have come out here and helped defend them, but I couldn't because I was under indictment. I was being attacked. People like me talk about the indictments.
- [43:32]
Steve Bannon
Talk about what happened. Talk about what happened to you, specifically how they came after you.
- [43:35]
Judge Troopas
Yeah, well, so There have been 17 separate actions, civil actions. January 6th. They have multiple bar complaints against me. They've literally attempted to bankrupt me and certainly have destroyed my reputation. I spent 50 years building a reputation. And I always said there wasn't a lawyer in Wisconsin on November 4, November 3, that would not have sat next to me and said, I'm proud to sit next to Judge Troopas. And then the Democrats went after me and they vilified me. I mean, my wife every night would stay up wondering when our door was going to be broken down. By the way, we found out now, courtesy of Senator Johnson's committee, that, in fact, they have stolen all my records. They had, in fact, stolen all my client records by going after my email accounts and the like. I think I mentioned that my son, the intimidation. They took my son off a Disney cruise, took his electronics and questioned him. The feds, that your son, in front.
- [44:34]
Steve Bannon
Of everybody, in front of their kids.
- [44:36]
Judge Troopas
That, you know, this is the Mike Flynn, right? We're going to go after your family. Now. There was nothing below what these people would do. I didn't understand that. I did not understand that they would literally go after every member of my family. Troopas is an odd name. They went after everyone in the country that had that last name. They did everything they could to destroy me and my members of my family over and over and over and again, trying to bankrupt me. Now, the felony charge. Now get this. They now argue, according to the decision in August, that we could not meet on October 4th, that we could not meet on December 14th, that in Wisconsin, it was a felony for the electors to meet and cast a ballot. Now think about this. They preempt all of federal law. The federal law says we have to meet. The federal law says we have a right to petition the government. The federal law says we have a right to appeal. Now the attorney general is arguing through the court that you never had that right at all. It was a felony the moment they voted and you're going to go to jail for the rest of your life as a consequence. The other thing that they're trying to do is they're going to try to try the entire Jack Smith case. I mention this because if you read the pleadings, they now have essentially announced the felony. Part of the felony was you were going to create chaos in Washington. They're going to try Donald Trump in a Wisconsin court next summer in order to overturn, in order to get their way in congressional elections. There's going to be a two month trial on national television.
- [46:06]
Steve Bannon
People don't know this?
- [46:07]
Judge Troopas
No. There's going to be a nationally televised two month trial of Donald Trump.
- [46:11]
Steve Bannon
Hang on. We're, we're breaking news here. I love this guy. You stand for the best of America. We're going to take a short commercial break. One of my heroes, Judge Troopas from Wisconsin. Next to the world. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the cctv.
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- [48:38]
Judge Troopas
War Room.
- [48:39]
Steve Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, you're giving me crazy talk now because the president states is not going to go on. We're shutting this thing down in Georgia trying to shut it down. You're telling me right now as it sits and they're empowered after what happened on election day a couple days ago. That's why they're now moving in Texas due way through districting. They feel the winds that they're back. We just talked about the polling shows. D +8 on Richard Barris polling for the House, D +14, a number he's never seen before coming out of Marist, which is not maga. But hey, directionally you can see that they think they got the Windsor back. They're not going to try the president of the United States in Wisconsin.
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Judge Troopas
They are going to try the president of the United States and Wisconsin, by the way, probably in absentia, though that's not clear yet either. So Please go to judgetrupas.com youm can read all the papers. I'm not. Nothing here is theoretical. Read the indictment. The indictment says names every single person around the president. There were meetings with the president and then they changed their claims after they officially filed them to say what we're going to argue is that the purpose of all of this was to create chaos and the January 6th riots, that is the Jack Smith case. They're making no bones about it that they're going to try the Jack Smith case in Dane County, Wisconsin, next summer on live television because they've already made requests for national live television coverage. They know full so they have to put in evidence of exactly what the president and all of his people did and wanted to do and what happened in Washington in order to say that our use of alternate delegates, alternate electors had some ulterior motive. Again, Josh, call the far left liberal. I don't want to use poor terms, I'm former judge. But the nature of this man, Josh Gaul, is to answer to the national people. Which takes me to the naivete that I had. You know I got an education, right?
- [50:41]
Steve Bannon
You were a pilgrim.
- [50:43]
Judge Troopas
Exactly. I really was.
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Caller or Guest
You were.
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Steve Bannon
Mr. Smith goes to Washington. These people play smash mouth. They will destroy, and particularly they have to destroy you because you're that people look at you. You're that guy in the middle. You're not a fire breathing partisan. You're just going to do your job. You like a guy like my dad. They need to take you down. And because they pointed as an example, this is why the big law firms are gutless. They understand where troopas is going. He's going to get destroyed.
- [51:08]
Philip Patrick
Correct.
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Judge Troopas
And again, this is news to me. I'm not from Washington. I eschewed it. But the idea that we could perform a task that every attorney performs. I have a legal obligation to advise my client of the alternatives available. I don't do them, but I advise them. They crossed the line here. See, they always indicted the people, but here they go after the lawyers. That's a very big line that they crossed. I mean, from my perspective and from the bar's perspective, because it means that all the communications I have with my client, whether it's a client about a traffic accident or a divorce or some of the most personal things, they can just go get my records in the middle of the night. That is exactly what the Department of Justice did without ever notifying me. I found out 18 months later, courtesy of Ed Martin and Senator Johnson.
- [52:04]
Steve Bannon
Ed Martin's a rock star.
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Judge Troopas
Well, you know, I've been working with him, talking to him since all this last year. We met with him yesterday and I do hope that the Attorney General empowers him to do the job he needs to do in Wisconsin and elsewhere to get into these cases and help us out. But back to what's going to happen next summer? So the problem is when you just like everyone saw where they indicted Trump in New York. Wisconsin has the most liberal county in the United States, Dane County. I'm not making it up again. 23% vote for Donald Trump in Dane County.
- [52:41]
Steve Bannon
That's Madison University of Wisconsin.
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Judge Troopas
I mean, this is Berkeley central, right?
- [52:46]
Steve Bannon
Yeah, it's better. It's worse than Berkeley.
- [52:48]
Judge Troopas
Yeah, it's worse than idiots.
- [52:51]
Steve Bannon
And people don't know that. Ann Arbor, Michigan and Wisconsin. I say this all the time, going after universities, the public IVs of which they are the two of the most prominent, the most woke in the world. We've got a bounce, but we're going to have you on.
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Judge Troopas
Well, I'll be back.
- [53:03]
Steve Bannon
We're going to have you on. On a weekly basis to get updates because people have just let the sleeping door lie. What can people.
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Judge Troopas
Judge troopas.com Judge troopas.com which we certainly could use the resources. And again, anybody.
- [53:14]
Steve Bannon
Is there a gift?
- [53:15]
Judge Troopas
There is a. There's a gift. And go. There's multiple sources. There's a 501C3. Okay.
- [53:20]
Steve Bannon
Where do people go to donate to this?
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Judge Troopas
They. Well, if they'll just go to judge troopas.com they will. It will take them to the sites where they can do that. And we certainly appreciate it because again.
- [53:29]
Steve Bannon
How many years in prison do you have on the criminal charges against you right now?
- [53:33]
Judge Troopas
Well, the rest of my life. I mean, each count is seven years and they've charged me with 12, 11 counts.
- [53:39]
Steve Bannon
So. Over 100 years in prison.
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Judge Troopas
Yeah. For advising a client. President of the United States and coming.
- [53:46]
Steve Bannon
Up with the evidence that they were in the wrong.
- [53:48]
Judge Troopas
Nobody's. Nobody's questioning the evidence.
- [53:49]
Steve Bannon
Hang on for one second. Mike Lindell, Wisconsin, you remember that, don't you, sir? In the darkest of the dark nights.
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Caller or Guest
Absolutely. There's so much corruption in Wisconsin and it's very sad. Although they do you know, if everybody voted that could vote in Wisconsin. It's 4.4, 4.2 million. But there's 7.3 million names on their border rolls. That's just an example of Wisconsin. It's totally disgusting over there. And starting with Robin Voss. But that's a whole nother story.
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Steve Bannon
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Judge Troopas
Judge troopas.com all one word. Yes.
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Steve Bannon
Spell it.
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Judge Troopas
J U D G E T R O U P I S.com let's go.
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Steve Bannon
Ms. Meltdown. That site right now. The Charlie Kirk show is next. After that, Jack Posovic, you're gonna have Gruber bowling back at five with Joe Allen riding shotgun.
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