Podcast Summary

Podcast: Real America’s Voice – The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon
Episode: 4940
Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: Mike Davis (“The Viceroy”, Article III Project), Joe Lavanier (Treasury), Laura (Conservative Commentator), Rosemary Jenks (Immigration Advocacy)

Episode Overview

This episode centers on the political crisis sparked by a group of Democratic lawmakers and ex-intelligence/military officers releasing a video encouraging members of the military and intelligence community to refuse "illegal orders." Steve Bannon and his guests dissect the ramifications—alleging sedition and insurrection—while linking these events to broader struggles over executive power, the weaponization of courts, looming national security concerns, and hot-button issues like AI regulation, jobs, and immigration policy.

Bannon and guests argue that the Biden-era Democratic Party is undermining the constitutional order, with particular focus on courts, border policy, AI amnesty, and enforcement against the “deep state.” News of the latest jobs report and debate over AI regulation round out the show, emphasizing their narrative that the country’s future hinges on supporting “America First” executive action and policies.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Controversial Video by Democratic Lawmakers and Former Intelligence/Military Officials

• At issue: A video where Democratic members of Congress and ex-military/intel officials urge current service members to "refuse illegal orders" and defend the Constitution—even against threats from within the U.S.
• Bannon’s frame: Accuses these leaders of inciting insubordination or even insurrection (“general call for rebellion” – 02:59).
• Laura (commentator):
  • “This is abhorrent conduct…like a propaganda video by one of our enemies…to encourage members of our military and intelligence community to defy a direct command from their superior. And that is wrong.” (02:25)
  • “It is insurrection, plainly, directly, without question.” (02:59)

Timestamps:

• [01:19–02:23] The video’s message and “call to arms” breakdown.

• [02:25–04:09] Conservative panel condemns the video as insurrection.

• Bannon’s critique: “They're trying to insert themselves...between the military and the commander in chief.” (07:22)

• Mike Davis: Calls the video “the most dangerous video imaginable… calling on the military and intel officials to ignore an order of the President of the United States.” (09:19)

2. Executive Power, Article II, and the Judicial Front

• Bannon: Defends the broad powers of the President under Article II, noting Trump’s wins in Supreme Court emergency dockets (“21 out of 23 cases at the Supreme Court’s emergency docket this year alone. That’s a 91% success rate.” – 10:47).
• Critiques progressive Democrats for losing in courts and now allegedly seeking “extrajudicial” influence over the military.
• Davis: Warns it is “dramatic” and “dangerous” for intelligence/military personnel (non-lawyers) to decide if Presidential orders are legal.

Timestamps:

• [10:47–13:35] Supreme Court wins, Article II power discussion, real-world examples.

“These Democrat activist judges are getting the law wrong 91% of the time. How do these Democrat politicians in Congress expect non lawyer CIA officers and non lawyer military frontline soldiers to get the law right?”
— Mike Davis (09:19)

3. Historical Echoes and National Security Threats

• Bannon: Compares the current crisis to past national emergencies, referencing Lincoln and FDR, and asserts such dissent was never tolerated during war efforts (13:35).
• Concern over current covert and kinetic military operations worldwide (Ukraine, Venezuela, Israel/Gaza):
  “You can't get more dangerous...You’re worried about operations you’re worried about...they’re trying to insert themselves.” (13:35)

Timestamps:

• [13:35–15:24] Historical analogies and modern national security context.

4. Judicial “Lawfare” and Judge Jeb Boasberg

• Bannon & Davis: Launch into a lengthy attack on D.C. Judge Jeb Boasberg, calling for his impeachment citing alleged interference in Trump administration actions, exposure of military ops, and permissiveness in security threats.
• Boasberg accused of:
  • Exposing ongoing military operations,
  • Freeing individuals allegedly attempting to attack Trump,
  • Allowing DOJ spying on Senators.

Memorable quote:

“Not only are his patterns...extremely lawless, they’re also extremely dangerous.”
— Mike Davis (23:47)

Timestamps:

• [23:21–28:44] The “Boasberg lawfare” segment.

5. Latest Jobs Report and Economic Policy

• September jobs report: 119,000 jobs created, unemployment up to 4.4%.
• Joe Lavanier: Attributes all economic improvements to Trump’s policy, predicts a “capex boom,” and attacks Biden-era reporting revisions.
• Critiques Federal Reserve as too slow to drop interest rates.

“The economy is holding in exclusively and entirely because of President Trump’s policies.”
— Joe Lavanier (32:07)

Timestamps:

• [31:19–36:34] Jobs report analysis and macroeconomic outlook.

6. Artificial Intelligence Regulation and Section 230

• Focused pushback against a perceived attempt by Senator Ted Cruz and “AI oligarchs” to sneak pro-big tech AI amnesty (“preemption” from state/local rules) into the NDAA without debate.
• Davis:
  • Calls for rejecting any such amnesty unless it protects “the 4 C’s”—Conservatives, Children, Communities, Creators.
  • Encourages War Room audience to contact Congress directly to block “AI amnesty” (43:48–46:43).

Memorable explanation:

“We can’t steal like China...We need to do AI the American way.”
— Mike Davis (44:43)

Timestamps:

• [37:26–47:22] Section 230 history, tech “oligarchy,” AI legislation, and calls to action.

7. Immigration and the PAUSE Act

• Rosemary Jenks: Calls for a moratorium on all immigration—especially pause or end visa programs like H1B—until the system can be “rebuilt to serve American interests.”
• Links labor force participation and worker shortages to “America First” immigration reforms.
• Bannon and Jenks advocate for “The PAUSE Act” (expected to be introduced by Rep. Chip Roy) to halt nearly all immigration.

Memorable quote:

“We need to tear down the entire system until we can rebuild it so that it serves Americans interests and eliminates fraud. And that is exactly what the PAUSE Act would do.”
— Rosemary Jenks (50:26)

Timestamps:

• [48:10–51:38] Labor participation, American jobs vs. visa programs, PAUSE Act advocacy.

Notable Quotes & Moments

On the Democratic video:

“This is abhorrent conduct...You tell me what it is, except for to encourage members of our military…to defy a direct command from their superior. And that is wrong.”
— Laura (02:25)

“It is insurrection, plainly, directly, without question.”
— Conservative Lawmaker (02:59)

On Executive Power:

“He can fire anybody he wants…He’s chief law enforcement officer of the United States government… we admit he’s had a maximalist idea inside the Second Amendment. 21 times they’ve gone to the Supreme Court. These guys…have been reversed.”
— Steve Bannon (10:47)

On Judicial Threats:

“Not only are his patterns…extremely lawless, they're also extremely dangerous. Let me give you some examples…”
— Mike Davis on Judge Boasberg (23:47)

On the Economic Outlook:

“The economy is holding in exclusively and entirely because of President Trump's policies.”
— Joe Lavanier (32:07)

On AI and Tech Monopolies:

“We can’t steal like China…We need to do AI the American way.”
— Mike Davis (44:43)

On Immigration Reform:

“We need to tear down the entire system...so that it serves Americans interests and eliminates fraud. And that is exactly what the PAUSE Act would do.”
— Rosemary Jenks (50:26)

Important Segment Timestamps

• 01:19–02:23 – Democratic lawmakers’ video urging refusal of unlawful orders
• 02:25–04:09 – Conservative reaction: “insurrection,” “propaganda”
• 09:19–13:35 – Bannon & Davis: Executive power, Supreme Court, historical analogies
• 23:21–28:44 – Attack on Judge Boasberg, calls for impeachment
• 31:19–36:34 – September jobs report, economic policy, touting Trump’s gains
• 37:26–47:22 – Section 230, AI regulation, calls to action against “AI amnesty”
• 48:10–51:38 – Immigration reform; PAUSE Act

Final Thoughts

This War Room episode is a direct call to political arms for its conservative audience. It warns that America is at war with internal “insurrection,” judicial overreach, and globalist tech oligarchs. Bannon and guests invoke historical crises, tout Trump’s supremacy in court and on economic policy, and push for direct political action on hot topics like AI regulation and immigration.

For listeners:

• The episode provides a window into how Bannon’s War Room mobilizes populist-conservative sentiment with pointed narratives, historical analogies, and explicit calls to action.
• The hosts frame the political moment as existential—urging nonstop vigilance and engagement, whether on the courts, legislative reform, or the economy.

Calls to Action:

• Contact Congress to oppose AI amnesty and immigration loopholes.
• Visit article3project.org and iapaction.com to mobilize on these issues.

Episode closes with:

“At the tip of the spear, Rosemary Jenks. Honored to have you on here, ma’am… The Pause Act. Let’s pause it all except H1B’s. Let’s shut that down. Thank you, ma’am.”
— Steve Bannon (51:38)