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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's good going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, let me just put a pin. And by the way, it is Saturday, the 22nd of November. Your overlord 2025, Alex DeGrasse is with us. Dave Bratz with us, going to be joined by more folks shortly. But I want to get to Degrasse. Degrasse. I'm going to put a pin and leave aside the Supreme Court ruling on Louisiana. I want to go to the Republican states we haven't talked about. Kansas, Nebraska, Indiana, Florida. Okay, I got one out of Kansas, one out of Nebraska, one more out of Indiana, and five more. So I get eight if we get our job done, correct. Now, the problem is outside of Florida, Ron DeSantis is the crew, Kansas, Nebraska and Indiana ain't getting done correct?
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No, that's not true. So Indiana is two. That's what we're pushing for. And the Indiana House is still planning to come in for a special session in December to vote on a new map. They're going to do their job. That's important. Steve, the question is obviously, will the Indiana Senate and show up and vote.
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No and betray that gets, that gets us to the 8:1 map, not the 9:0 map, correct?
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Well, it's up for discussion, but we're pushing nine out. We're pushing obviously nine out. Okay, we take one. We take one. Kansas, they're still taking it up in regular session. The question there is whether there's enough Republicans will vote to override the governor's veto. Nebraska does look challenging that one, I'll say. And Governor DeSantis continues to publicly champion redistricting as well as his team. And the House's redistricting committee will start meeting in December. That's important. Florida does not have to pass a new map until spring of 2026 because of the late primary. So you could have a perfect storm with if, if the Supreme Court rules with us on Louisiana, Florida could in theory even push Further. So that's obviously huge. And so Penn is on the table. But it's tough, you know, it's looking more like April. We'll. We'll have to see. Anything less is unacceptable, obviously.
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Hang on. So I got. I got eight. Well, I think Nebraska's out, so seven. So when I add them up, it's 12, 14. It's 16 gross. Number 16 to 18 gross. And I got five already in California. Unless we stop it. That gets you over the. That gets you over the 11 if Virginia doesn't happen in Maryland. My point is we're right on the bubble of the 10. You agree with me? We need a net 10 minimum out of this, sir.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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Yeah. Well, is it isn't the problem here the Republican establishment is not working on this at all. They would rather, quite frankly, they want the storm of Trump to pass. And they see one way to have it pass is to lose the House. There's worse things that happen, the Republican Party than losing the House. They lose it all the time. In fact, before Trump got here, it looks like they were going to permanently lose it. And then you get Trump impeach and he killed the whole Trump movement. And then, you know, they reset in 28. So what does this audience have to do to make sure that we are on point? Because we need more net 10 is the minimum. It looks like possible you could get net 14 or 15 if it doesn't go our way in California. So how do we do that?
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We need to maniacally focus on these state legislators, Steve, and people, especially in Indiana. I mean, that's a huge focal point. And you've got guys out there saying crazy things in the state Senate. It's totally unacceptable to have Republicans that sort of operate like that. Right. This is not a happy talk.
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Whatever.
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Right. They are jamming us on every front and have been for decades.
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Okay?
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And you look at New England, you look at, obviously New York and California. We talked about on the show the California map as it was previously drawn with their stupid citizens, you know, by quote, unquote, bipartisan appropriation, whatever thing, was even more gerrymandered two years ago than the updated Texas map. Okay? You know what I mean? I mean, let's just be honest here. And now you're looking at the most gerrymandered map in the history of the country. Okay. With the current California map that people just voted on. So they're not playing games. It has nothing to do about what we or anyone else try to do in Texas or anything. Else these guys have been pushing the envelope for decades and obviously they will stop at nothing to stop President Trump. And of course, I think there's some people with an interest in seeing the.
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Magnum people go away.
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Alex, the people in California are saying, people around Newsom, they're saying the only mistake they made was not going52.0 to be like new England. They want to take a maximalist. They said, hey, we don't care. 46% or 44% of people in the state vote Republican. It's just smash mouth. We. They won by 30 points. They feel they left some on the table. They think 48 to 4 is not good enough. They want. They should have got and they're thinking they should have gone 52.
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They don't care. This is what I'm saying. In Texas, it shouldn't be five. We should go back and refile for eight. We're not being aggressive enough. And in the Republican establishment is just fighting the grassroots on this. And quite frankly, President Trump, he's already sent his political director Blair out there, he sent the vice president out there, he's talked about it ad nauseam. You went out there. Senator Banks is all in back of this. Senator Banks is out there. You guys had this conference which was all day on a Saturday at 500 people. And these are the tip of the spear of the grassroots movement and the establishment, the Pence, the Judas Pence and other establishment figures don't care, do they?
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No.
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I mean, Indiana is really a focal point in general. Just with the inner fight with Maga, with Pence, with just all these guys that are disaster. Steve. I mean, really, for me, it was eye opening because, look, I'm from New York. We're fighting for every inch. You know, that's where I've cut my teeth in Magaland. But, you know, we're out there, push, push, push. I get to Indiana and there's some. I mean, I've never seen more hardcores, okay? The people at the event, the grassroots people, Unbelievable, Steve. I mean, it was truly amazing. And I meet up some of the elected officials, many of them for redistricting, some of them not. I mean, talking to these people who are pushing, it's like just, oh, well, you know, things are pretty good here. I mean, it's crazy mindset. It has to be defeated. It has to be stopped. These people need education. You know, we've got to get communicating with them directly and being like, hey, man, wake up, look around. This is not about Indiana. This is not about whatever's going on in the state. This is about representation on the national scale and pushing back against the far left socialist takeover of our country which is what's at stake in the next midterm obviously. And so these people just, I don't know, you know, I don't understand the thinking obviously because it's so dangerous within our own.
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Well, they're going to have to be pressured into this. It's going to be, this is going to be about political muscle first off to get the establishment and then to fight off the Democrats because we're in a dogfight now and like I said it's net 10 minimum or we're going to have a very tough November. Alex, where do people go thank you for coming on today even by phone. Where do people go to get you to get more analysis on this, sir?
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Yeah, I'm going to type out a report and I'll give it to Grace and everyone but I'm at the grass 81 on x truth getter, all of that. I appreciate everyone. I mean it's really Indiana, let's lock in obviously Florida I think we don't have to worry about but that's a key one. You break the log jam, I think things will start moving. So we've got to just keep the momentum. But it is going to take 100% political muscle and if these people don't listen Steve, they deserve to be defeated at the ballot box and this fight is going to take not just this.
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Yeah.
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Not just this midterm. This is going to be a long fight so we got to dig in.
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Last thing, this is separate from the Supreme Court coming in on the gerrymandering DEI gerrymandering that's going to come and I think some of the states are particularly Louisiana but we may pick up a couple more seats there. But that's a total sidebar that will be decided by the courts.
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Yeah. As early as January we'll have that update and that will hopefully play effect this election. Obviously Louisiana moved back there primary in preparation for a ruling. It in theory could affect how many seats are drawn in Florida but you know, because I laid out the Democrat ones which I know is confusing a lot of that are the next fight, you know and so while we are maniacally focused on this election, we've got another election obviously two years after when when the presidential is up as well and things are going to be super tense. So everything is laying out two year, four year plan to keep pushing brother.
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Thank you so much Alex DeGrasse. Appreciate you on A Saturday.
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Thank you, Steve.
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Dave.
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Brett, I know you're chomping at the bit. I'm going to turn the microphone back over to you, brother. What do you got for me?
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Yeah, well, I just want to go back. I'm supposed to be the moral philosopher and the Puritan on this show. And every issue you bring up and every rant you go on, all of it centers around a rejection of the Christian tradition, right? America, there was no debate. America first always has been Christian in the broadest sense of that term. And as we lose Christianity, right, All the cultural commentators know this, right? The leftists, Harzoni, the biblical scholar, Israel knows this, says this, we live in a Christian culture. And if you just look at the threat from Mandani Islamist, the radical Islamists, the Marxists, the leftists, the socialist communists, all of these, China, the border invasion, all of it is an attack on Christianity. Look at our higher education schools, right? They, the philosophy part, we can't duck it. And the education, it's not sexy, but you can't duck it. And the churches, this is your action item, dear. Churches, wake up. Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox, the kids. If you don't have the Bible in school or if you're not teaching the Bible, you're not going to have a Christian culture. And if you don't have a Christian culture, you're not going to have America first and the United States of America for that much longer. And so, just real briefly, the long trajectory of this was reason came on the stage in Europe, right? The Enlightenment, kind of an attack on. On Revelation and the Bible, etc. And that ruled that. Think of Woodrow Wilson, the elitist, the Ivy Leagues reason, you know, a lot of it very good related to our founding, but reason and the Enlightenment, and Harzoni will say this, the Enlightenment thinkers were anti Semitic. They don't want particulars. They wanted a universal globalist rule of law. Just think of the Bretton woods global liberal order, right? They don't want nation states like the United States, Israel, particulars of any sort of. So the nation state is a threat. So they've done all they can to get rid of the nation state. And getting rid of Christianity is the way you do that.
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When the Enlightenment, you know, there was obviously had a big influence in the American Revolution. But yes, wasn't it kind of the lead sled dog in the French Revolution? And that's why the French Revolution at core was a. Was to destroy Christianity, to destroy the underpinnings, not just of the church, but to drive Christianity out of the culture. That's why they redid everything from the calendar to customs and mores, everything you see, it manifested in the French Revolution, which, remember, folks, came right at the end of the American Revolution, basically because the thing that triggered it was, guess what? Debt and taxes, the money they put up for the American Revolution came back to haunt them. And they're really defeating England or trying to defeat England, destroy its empire. But reason underpins so much of that, and you saw it in all its brutality in the streets of Paris and the French Revolution, did you not, sir?
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Yeah, yeah, no. And that's right. They're both good guardrails. Reason with Christianity, right? Harvard's motto in 1640 with John Harvard, who came from Cambridge, another fine Christian school back in the day was Truth for Christ and Church. It's not anymore. And now the scary thing is reason is gone. And I know people won't understand that statement, but reason no longer guides the Ivy League schools. It's radical leftist Marxism, which is contrary in that war against Christianity. And the Christians don't get this yet. And if we don't change the culture, you lose the rat. Without the culture, you don't get all the things that the war rooms ticked off at, right? The border invasion, the Islamification, the loss of freedoms, the censorship, the globalists, the inflation, all of it's coming from a bad place.
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Well, we're making. We're making progress.
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Yeah.
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It's now time to drop the hammer and get the wins.
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It's time to fight.
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Okay. By the way, so, Taj, Gil, I got Tasia up. We're gonna talk to Ukraine afterwards. In a moment. Taj, I know you can't give your exact location, but that's a hell of a visual. Where are you today, brother?
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I'm in Idaho, in southwest Idaho. My buddy's got a hunting lodge out here. It's 29,000 acres. So came out here this morning just shooting a little trap and skeet. Then we're going to take my daughter out and see if we can put her on an elk and see if she can kill an elk this morning.
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You mean, you mean the head of security? The one we keep playing the video on? The head of security for Warpath Coffee.
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Yep, that's right. Hunter. Yep. It'll be her first time shooting an animal. So we're gonna, as soon as we're done, we're gonna head out and get on the planes and see if we can find a cow elk for her to shoot.
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Who. Who's your buddy right there? Is that another Undisclosed. This is my buddy, Ronnie Pie Pitter.
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He's like the ultimate hunting guide here in southern Idaho. He knows where all the animals are, he knows all the ranchers, all the farmers. Amazing.
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Talk to me about. Did you, did you start your day off? We did. Here with a big pot of Warpath Coffee, of course.
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Of course. Yeah. We Woke up around 5am and French press a bunch of Warpath coffee, put it in a Stanley mug and drove out to the ranch out here to the lodge, and we're all drinking Warpath Coffee. They got. They got Warpath here at the lodge, too.
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Amazing. How do our audience. How's the audience? I want them to read the 15,000 or to dip into the 15,000. Five star reviews. Where do folks go?
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Go to Warpath Coffee. Use promo code war room, as always. So promo code war room. We run that year round for the war room posse, and I think this weekend we're doing 15 off and it always fluctuates. So always use promo code war room and then go to the site. Read the reviews. We just roasted decaf yesterday. Roasted a bunch of holbein and ground decaf because I don't know why, but decaf is so popular, it's crazy. It sells out so quick. But read the reviews. Like you, Steve, like you said, We've got 15,000 five star reviews and people absolutely love the coffee. We roast it on a perforated drum so it's not bitter, it's not acidic. You can drink it straight black, the way coffee is supposed to be drank. You don't need to douse it with milk and sugar. So drink the coffee healthy, straight black. And we have every coffee for everybody. We've got breakfast blend, dark roast. We got the summer blend, which is Jamaica, blue mountain beans. A little bit of that in there. And then we've got a bunch of flavored coffee. We've got espresso, we've got the pods. The next thing we're going to drop is the decaf K cups. So we'll have 42 count decaf K cups here pretty soon.
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Wow. I'm stunned the decaf sells like that. I like getting jacked.
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I know too.
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You're caught in the war, jacks me up. That's why I can't drink it after like three or four in the afternoon. Maybe I should try the decaf taste one more time. Where the folks got. I know you want to get out today and get Hunter out there looking for a first elk. Where do people go? One more time.
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Go to Warpath Coffee. Use promo code War Room. And like I said, we run the war room code year round for the War Room Posse. The War Room posse is our biggest customer base. So we love the posse. So we're always running promos for the. For the posse. Warpath coffee promo code War Room. If you haven't tried it, try it. Just get on the site and read the reviews.
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Thank you, brother. Have a great day today.
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Thank you, Steve.
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Say hi to all you brothers out there. Appreciate you too, man. Pipe hitters. Steve Cortez was kind enough to remind me during the break. Yo, Bannon, you blew the number. Cortez is our numbers guy, Steve. And this is shocking. I thought it was the new just buyers overall were 40. You remind me the Bloomberg story. The the first time buyer has now hit 40 years old. That is stunning. It used to be in the low 20s, sir.
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Yeah, that's correct. And listen, it's rare when I get to correct the great Stephen K. Bannon, but in this case I think it's really important I've just been studying this issue so closely that I know it and have read about it a lot. The average first time age, first time is now 40 years old. 40 years used to be considered getting into middle age. Right? Your life was already quite matured by then regarding homeownership, family formation, all of that. And we're seeing the reverse now. By the way, that number, to put it in context, in only 2021, when Biden took office, that number was 31 years old. So we have gone up a decade in only four years. Why? Because credit standards are incredibly strict, incredibly tight. Many of these buyers are all cash, or at least largely cash buyers. And that's one reason why I believe that this current run up in housing prices, there's a lot of folks who take try to compare this to what happened during the great financial crisis or preceding it. I think it's entirely different. This is the opposite of no doc mortgages and those liar loans. These are tight credit standards. These are people making, I think an intelligent decision. People with a lot of money to say in an inflationary environment. We want our money in homes, but it's horrible for young people. And to also connect this to my polling, I just did a huge poll over 2000 Gen Z voters, 18 to 25 year old voters across America. And I asked specifically about their aspirations on housing because I've noticed a lot of people my age, a lot of middle aged people will tell me, hey Cortez, don't worry about young people buying homes. They don't want to. They're a different generation. Well, maybe that's true for some of the millennials, the folks in their 30s, but this gen Z, which is much more right wing, much more like Gen X with Gen Z, 18 to 25, we asked them, is it important to you to buy a home in your 20s or 30s? 88% of them said it's very important. Steve, you know, in polling we never get anything near 90%. You can't get 90% of people to agree that, you know, next Thursday is Thanksgiving. But nine out of ten 18 to 25 year olds say it's very important to them to buy a home in their 20s and 30s. We know statistically right now that's incredibly unlikely. They're not going to be able to do that, that goal that they claim is important. So it's something we clearly have to work on as a country, as a society, policy, all of it. That's a sad number. Let's get that number ticking back down. Which means that the Silent prosperity is going back up.
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This is why Charlie Kirk, you know, Andrew, Corvette put up. Charlie Kirk came out on August 19th. Charlie Kirk put his punch list of what he felt an active economic plan for younger people. I think it was six, I think it was six items. The fourth or fifth item was build 10 million new homes. He understood, Charlie understood better than anybody that young people want to, they want to have a stake in the system. You know, they want some real assets. Real assets. 90% of people's net worth. I say this all the time on the home title, like 80 or 90% of your net worth tied up in your home. Heck, I think my parents at the end of the day was 80, 85, 90%. It's just even with their stocks, the home was, you know, the key. That was their savings account. I want to get to Ukraine. You got a great. Let's do a short video. I got Dave Brat, you got the great Ben Harnwell from Rome, Cortez, myself. We're going to walk through this whole thing. They're trying to get a peace treaty and Zelensky's coming on glued. So let's go and play the clip.
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Peace appears imminent for Ukraine, thanks to President Trump. And elections there couldn't come at a better time because Zelensky is caught up in a growing intense corruption scandal that reaches right to his top inner circle and presidential office. His pals, they stole at least $100 million from their Department of Energy, even with their nation at war and regular Ukrainians suffering and dying. Now, one of the worst aspects of this Operation Midas, this Grand Theft Kiev, is that the lead detective, Rasolov, he sits in jail right now in Ukraine, nabbed by Zelenskyy's forces on bogus charges that he's somehow working for Russia. So at this very moment, the two main scumbag thieves who fleeced their nation, Zelenskyy's BFFs Mindich and his financier known as Sugar man, they fled. And they live in luxury ensconced in Israel, while the brave cop who uncovered their crimes sits in a Ukrainian jail cell. So Detective Rusilov must be freed and Zelensky, he needs to face his own jury, meaning the Ukrainian people. In a swift and transparent election, they will then decide if it's time for corruption free leadership in Ukraine. See my article posted inside Ukraine.
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Okay, I want to push that. Everybody. Ben Harnwell is, Is Cortez overstating the case is finally the corruption we've been talking about since I don't know, three years, three plus years. Is it finally catching up with Zelensky at the worst possible time now that President Trump and his team are putting pressure on them to sign, basically sign this document by Thanksgiving Day, sir?
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Well, the timing from Zelenskyy's perspective is less than optimal. But as I said last Saturday on the show, Steve, at this point in the game, the switcheroo, the great switcheroo of Zelenskyy for someone who's far more credible, like his former general chief of staff, General Zaluzhny, who's exiled to the, to London as the ambassador, the that would be catastrophic for anyone who wants to see the west, specifically America, disengage from Ukraine. Because what you're going to be doing is simply pulling someone out of the picture who's loathed and hated by half of the American people and substituting them for someone who's going to be far more credible at getting the cash in. And in fact, Steve, if you look at the 28 point plan that President Trump is working on, one of those points is indeed what we warned three and a half years ago, the mother of all grifts, that is the reconstruction of Ukraine. So the last thing I want to see at this point in the game is Zelensky removed from power.
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Because your theory, the case is the war goes on like a Netanyahu, Zelensky stays there, the war goes on and he won't get to a point. Peace deal. And the peace deal here, at least what they're putting out, has both sovereignty and reconstruction in it.
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My fellow, in 20 seconds. My theory of the case is Zelensky is so discredited and so loathed by the American people, keeping him in place is the easiest way for President Trump should he want to to fully disengage the United States from everything to do with Ukraine.
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Okay, we're going to take a break on that and come back because this one is in President Trump. Remember, he's, he was handed the kinetic part of the Third World War and then on top of it got the economic part when the Chinese Communist Party came at us and cut us off from rare earth. He's trying to unwind this entire thing, although there are a few buried leads in the details. We're gonna get into all of that next in the war room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. Okay, part of your sovereignty is your freedom and part of your freedom is medical freedom. All family pharmacy.com Bannon put in Bannon 10 you get 10 discount. Go see the team, they got licensed professionals, doctors, all of it. Tell them about your situation, your health. They'll do an analysis. They'll, you know, if you need a prescription, they will give it to you with their licensed professionals in all the states and Doctors, all family pharmacy.com promo code Bannon this is the core of your medical freedom. Until you can get access to the medications you need, the vitamins you need, the antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and others, you're not free. This is what Michael Kunstler and the team have set up. It's amazing. Every place in the country, everybody in the country. But just go check today. AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code Bannon10. You get 10% off. So go check it out. And they're gonna have a bigger sale coming, I guess on Black Friday. They'll be here with us. Black Friday. AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code Bannon so a couple, when they talk about this, and I think the VP put out a tweet today saying any deal has to essentially guarantee Ukrainian sovereignty. I don't know how we got in this situation. This is America first. We're going to guarantee or be a co guarantor with NATO countries on the sovereignty of Ukraine. So if the Russians, years from now decide to move on Odessa, that's an American problem. To quote Steve Cortez, the Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine is not in the vital national security interest of the United States. The southern border is, and we've done a magnificent job of closing that. But we still have 15 million. Even with either 1.6 or 2.2 that have left under President Trump's first 10 months, we still have, I don't know, 15 million plus illegal alien invaders just from Biden's watch. So Cortez, let me start with you and then go to Ben. The issues here are at least as I see this thing, we're stepping into the middle of it and actually becoming the Mack Daddy. You know, Nigel Farage already criticizes about the timing of it. I love Nigel. There's no guy in the world I'd love more. But, yo, Nigel, your country's broke. You got Islamic. The rise of Islamism all over the United Kingdom, you're dead broke. You gotta take care of your. If you got money to throw into Ukraine, go for it. If you got troops to put in Ukraine, go for it. But guaranteeing their sovereignty, a security guarantee, the United States is going to be the MacDaddy on. And we're going to lead or be co partners with Europe on a construction. That means we're involved in that. We're involved in Ukraine for the next 25, 30, 40 or 50 years. Cortez, you first.
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Yeah, well, look, far from ideal, obviously, right. But a few points there. First on the Europeans. You know, they're complaining and carping about this. You're right, is ludicrous. We're meeting with the Europeans tomorrow in Geneva, which is the epicenter of globalism Inc. They can complain all they want, but unless they're willing to pony up, unless they have the cash and weapons, which they don't, then frankly, who cares what they think about this situation? They really have no stake in it. But if Paris and Geneva and Brussels and London somehow think, hey, with Zelensky, we can form this coalition and keep fighting to the last Ukrainian. Have at it, guys. Cuz we're sick of it. We're not going to engage any more in this protectorate nonsense overseas. But regarding the specifics. Now realize that President Trump was handed an impossible predicament by Joe Biden, right. And by what the globalists have done in Ukraine for a long time, since 2014, but particularly since the Russian invasion. So very difficult quagmire to work your way out of. And there aren't great options when you put yourself into a corner. I believe though that President Trump. Trump is choosing the best option here through negotiation and diplomacy. I think this 28 point plan, while not perfect.
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Come on man. You're saying work out of a quagmire. 100% agree that he was del terrible. The war would not have been had never been started. President Trump's president, full stop. Understand that. But you talking about working your way out of a quagmire. Let me repeat, I'm just quoting the Vice President's tweet. We're gonna any deal has to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine. We ain't guaranteeing the sovereignty of the United States of America yet. Guaranteeing the sovereignty. Number two, we're gonna give a security guarantee. And number three, we're gonna be co partners in the construction. Please tell me how that's not working your way into the quagmire, Steve Cortez.
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Okay, Regarding the security guarantee, Steve, realize the United States never has to take any military action that we do not want to take, right? So we can always analyze at the time is it appropriate for the United States to act. And what we say in November of 2025 does not mean that we have to act. Act in November of 2026. Or 20, 30 going forward. So let's just be realistic about that. Right? A negotiation tactic.
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Yeah, we just. Okay, we just signed a EO for Qatar. We just, I think, signed one or told the Saudis they got an Article 5. There's an implied. Right now, there's an implied. I'm gonna say we got implied in Israel. Here. The United States is not, we're not in the business of giving security guarantees like we've given in the, in NATO, that were thing. And then saying upon further review, when the Russians start rolling the Odessa. Upon further review, we're not. Because you're going to have a security guarantee doesn't mean you're just going to put it on paper. Security guarantee means you're going to have something called an American soldier somewhere near there. Right now, they're in Wiesbaden running the war. You're going to move them to the front line. Hang on for a second. So let me grade Cortez on the White House. That's a C minus. Good temp. You tried. Ben Harnwell here. Let's go to Rome. Your thoughts, sir? Steve.
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My cynical bdis listened to the whole of Steve Cortez trying to put the best. Trying to put the lipstick on. On the pork.
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He tried.
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My reptilian.
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He tried.
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He gave it the best, the best, best opportunity, you know, the best, the best sell he could in my Senate. My cynical reptilian eyes watched it and they didn't blink for the whole sequence. Steve, look, let's be honest. This 28 plan, it's a turd sandwich. We've got to call it what it is. It's a turd sandwich which is being presented as gourmet Tornado Rossini. It ain't. It's terrible. You know, by the way, by the way, one of the conditions in this 28 plan, I'm just going to say that, is that this agreement will be legally binding. I'd like to know before which entity is going to now sit above the sovereignty of the United States when that comes to play. Steve. What you were just. Steve Bannon, what you were just saying here about the. The security guarantees is a thousand percent spot on. Let me just say, referring to the plan, what it says, it says Ukraine receives security guarantees from the US but with conditions. Ukraine. And then it goes on. Okay, look, that is more dangerous to the United States than NATO's Article 5 assurances. I've said this like 20 times on the show of the last four years. I'll say it again. All America or any NATO member needs to do if another NATO member is attacked is send a fax and say we're studying the. We are monitoring the situation and we believe our monitoring of that situation fulfills our obligations. Right. Security guarantees are far more binding on who's signing on the other side. Look at the first World War. You are setting yourselves up here for a position which you are never going to escape from. And by the way, Steve, by the way, Steve's it is even worse than that. Denver, would you kindly put up my first article which I sent through the quote from Axios. I'm going to hand back to you guys on this point. This is one of the most dangerous things I've ever read in my life.
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Right.
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Because it is not simply security guarantees for Ukraine according to what we know of this 28 point plan, which isn't the fullness of it. It's security guarantees for Ukraine and Europe. That's the biggest, one of the biggest buried leads I've ever read in my life. And that's what Axios says. Security guarantees for Ukraine and Europe. Good luck. Good, good luck with that, folks. This is anywhere but America first.
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More than an Article 5 right now of attack on Russia. You think this is even deeper than that, Ben?
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Of course it is. Of course it is. Because Article 5 is simply a legal mechanism for you to start warring with another nation that hasn't directly attacked you without you suffering any obligations under international law. Security guarantees bind you into doing something.
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Yeah.
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Ben, you're actually making my point though, that there is no authority that can force the United States to act. I mean, you're making my point.
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Right.
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Neither President Trump nor any American president, just because of a pledge that was made in November of 2025, needs to take any action that is not directly in the interest of, of the United States. We always have full sovereignty over how we use our forces. That's just reality. Right. Going forward.
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Steve Cortez at Steve Cortez, I will respond saying let me know when it says one of the 28 points is the agreement is legally binding. Let me know before whom, before which court this agreement is going to be binding. Is going to be that simple.
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I didn't throw exactly a little hits.
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Not mine.
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Yeah. A little historical context here, gentlemen. I'll thread the needle.
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Yeah.
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We've lied to Russia on the prior 18 countries that have encroached upon Russia's border. This is the 19th. Right. So for me, the key is what what is Trump, we're already right. We're only giving away a little Bit of buffer zone to Russia. We're the aggressors in this occasion, right over the past couple of years, we being the aggressors of following John Mearsheimer and all the smartest guys in Realpolitik. And so it all comes down to does Trump have a forward looking arrangement with Russia and Putin? That's what it all comes down to. And the security arrangements or whatever, we're not too good at keeping our word on those kind of things.
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Hang on, hang on. What do you mean forward looking with Putin? Even some side deal or whatever, when they want, at the time they want to take Odessa. If they're going to take Odessa, we're going to, we're going to send the 82nd Airborne in with a bunch of hapless NATO troops. We're going to send them in with the hapless NATO because we know NATO's totally understaffed. They're not really paying for the military. They talk about 5%. They're not even at 2% because they got health care in there and climate change and all that. So we're going to send the 101st, 101st to get a brigade of the 101st and remaining right now. They're going to forward deploy to Odessa to stop the Russian army from coming to Odessa. Has anybody looked at what Ukraine looks like? Folks, remember here, President Trump has moved heaven and earth to bring peace here. There would never happen if he was president. It happened under Biden. And all the globalists and people In Brussels, Brussels, 30% Muslim. England, what 7%, I think 5 or 6% Muslim. In London, you can't even walk around Paris. The Fifth Republic's falling right now because they're broke. Macron's got no money. It's that group in Germany, a total disaster because they allowed mass migration from these Islamic countries. We're supposed to go in now. President Trump has moved heaven and earth. You know what they've done? They came to the Oval Office and lied to him and he called their bluff. When they came there, what, eight weeks ago, remember that whole day, they all came, all day. And they're going to talk. They're going to give this. And they got arms here and they got men here. They came up with nothing. And so now is not the time for the United States. I don't think until this is the Europeans war, Boris Johnson and those demons over there are the ones that they had some sort of accommodation worked out in the first couple days of this. And Boris Johnson trying to be Winston Churchill right Talked him out of it. And, you know, Macron's a big. He's Napoleon Junior and they're all big shots until it comes time to actually deliver. And then they want American security guarantees, they want American co partnerships on construction, and they want to guarantee Ukrainian sovereignty. I don't give a damn about Ukrainian sovereignty. I don't think anybody in this country cares about Ukrainian sovereignty. I'm not so sure all the Ukrainians care about sovereignty. What they want is the fight to stop right now. So I would like the sovereignty. Here's what I'd like to do. Instead of putting the 101st in Romania to get ready for the invasion of Odessa that we have to go defend, why don't we get the 100 first, turn them over to Tom Holman and Stephen Miller, and on Monday, we show up in New York City and we take out all the illegal alien invaders, and particularly the ones that voted for Mandami, the Ugandan Marxist jihadists, and we send them back to their point of origin that talks about the sovereignty of the United States. President Trump's moved heaven and earth. And he's been a diplomat, he's been a statesman. It's now time to tell the British, the French and the Germans. Show me what you got. Where's your money? Where's your troops? Where's your guarantee? Hell, they don't even have sovereignty of their own countries. They've turned the sovereignty over to radical Islam. Short break. Get the same group on the other side. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Oh, welcome back. That was good. So, Brad, Brad, I know you won and you need another 60 seconds. I jumped in. Finish your. Finish your thought and then give me your coordinates. Drop it.
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Yeah, okay, so toss it to our.
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Okay. Hey, Ben Harwell. Lost brat Ben Harnwell. Give us your coordinates. Give us your coordinates so people can get your BDI analysis over the weekend. Sir.
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I can't hear anything.
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Yeah.
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Okay, now go to court.
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Cortez. Steve Cortez, we're having a little technical problem here. Do you have us?
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I've got you. Yes, yes, I got you.
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Okay, fine. So then. Then you're going to take the whole segment. It's all yours.
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Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, Listen. Zelensky is. Is a corrupt tyrant. He's in an incredibly weak position domestically, the weakest he's been in in his entire tenure. This is exactly the time for President Trump to press him and to effectively compel him to accept the terms, the American negotiated terms to end this war. Then they need to hold an election and we are going to crush Zelensky in an election and get a real leader in Ukraine. That's in America's interest. Steve, you and I, since the earliest days of this Black Sea war, which was never in our vital national interests, have been constantly saying that this is not America's problem. Unfortunately, the Washington globalists made it our problem. Now Donald Trump is going to get us out of it and thankfully Zelinsky.
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But hang on, but are you saying that Zelensky will sign this and that we should do all the commitment? Because President Trump, I think in Wyckoff have given him one week, make a decision and Zelinsky's out there whining nonstop. Are you saying sign the deal and then have the election and get rid of Zelinsky?
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Exactly 100%. And I believe that's what's going to happen. I think that's by far the most probable scenario right now for all the Western Europe.
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And you're comfortable with the guaranteeing of, of Ukrainian sovereignty? Because aren't we doing that in this deal?
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No, I'm not comfortable with it. But if that is right now, the tech, the current posture of American policy that's going to get to an end of this war, then I think it makes sense for now.
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Why do we care? Hang on, I'm totally confused now. Why do we care? I don't care if they slug it out. That's their decision. You would trade off. You would actually say, I would give it. Hang on. You would guarantee their sovereignty if it, quote, unquote, ended this war, basically got a ceasefire, you would do that?
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Look, that's what President Trump has proposed. I think it makes sense given the predicament we're in. Right. Far from idea.
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Hang on, but hang on, hang on. What's the predicament?
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What's the predictive predicament is that we've.
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As long as he doesn't sign, if he doesn't sign it by Thursday, we walk away. We're not. We have.
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No, but what's the predicament?
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What predicament are we in? No, it's a self induced predicament.
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Right, because.
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What'S the. Hang on, what's the predicament that we guarantee that you guarantee somebody sovereignty that is massive. Particularly when the Russians think they're part of Russia. Right. And the Ukrainians, I got the fact that Ukrainians not. But if you guarantee their sovereignty, you guarantee their sovereignty. You're on the hook for everything. That's a self induced predicament of the United States. This is the bloodlands. This is a European problem. If they want to be guaranteeing sovereignty in Brussels and uk, have at it. But I don't think you're gonna see those guys if the Americans aren't there. They're not gonna be guaranteeing anything cuz they got nothing guaranteed with anyway. Cortez, you gave it your best shot. I appreciate the fact you gave it your best shot. We'll see a lot more of that this week. Where do people go? Steve, get all your videos, everything.
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Yes. Cortez investigates.com Cortez with an S at the end. I'm at Cortez, Steve on Twitter X.
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Thank you very much, Trevor Comstock, thanks for joining us. Give us a minute or two for the weekend. Where do people go? Sacred Human health.
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Trevor. And you get access to him all the time. Thank you so much sir. Appreciate you. Mike Lindell we're going to finish. We want to talk pillows and sheets and by the way President Trump has moved heaven and earth in this situation, I just think that the Europeans have stiffed him. They came over eight weeks ago. He called their bluff. They've shown nothing. Right. Let them put up guarantees. Let them put up guaranteeing the sovereignty. Let Zelensky deal with them. I just think, hey, don't get ourselves into a deeper quagmire. We're going to be there for 25 years. President Trump's got no obligation to do any of this. He's done, he's moved. The war would not have started if he was here. He's moved heaven and earth in the 10 months he's been officer to do it. And you know, it's. There's problem. Mike Lindell. Pete's pillows, sheets and my pillow brother.
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