THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4975)

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Real America’s Voice – THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4975)

Date: December 5, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Ken Paxton (Texas Attorney General), Dave Bossie (Conservative activist and commentator), John Solomon (Investigative journalist), Stan Woodward (Dallas County GOP), Brian Harrison (Texas State Representative)
Main Theme:
The episode focuses on the Supreme Court’s decision allowing Texas to use newly redrawn congressional maps, the national redistricting fight and its massive implications for U.S. politics, ongoing battles for election integrity (hand counting ballots), new developments in the January 6 pipe bomb case, and wider grassroots victories in Texas that reflect broader conservative momentum. The tone is combative and urgent, with frequent emphasis on “political warfare,” grassroots mobilization, and combating what Bannon’s guests call the “deep state” and institutional corruption.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court Victory for Texas Redistricting

(02:34–06:55, 06:55–10:10, 40:34–44:53)

• Supreme Court Ruling: The Supreme Court cleared the way for Texas to use new congressional maps that add likely Republican seats, overturning a lower court ruling that found the maps were racially discriminatory.
• National Stakes: Move is deemed a strategic win for Republicans and the White House heading into 2026 elections. Democrats are said to be “in big trouble.”
• Implications:
  • This is not the end of the legal battle, but for 2026 these are effectively the maps.
  • The episode frames the decision as both a direct win for Texas Republicans and a critical example for other red states.

Notable Quote:

"It was a great Christmas gift for the state of Texas and for the country." — Ken Paxton, (06:55)

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2. Ken Paxton Interview – Redistricting, Senate Campaign

(06:34–10:10)

• Legal Details: Paxton describes the chaos that would have ensued if the maps were blocked right before candidate filing deadlines; the Supreme Court’s intervention brought stability and maintained Republican advantages.
• Political Commentary:
  • Paxton attacks a long-serving Senator as having achieved nothing, criticizing him for being anti-Trump and opposing conservative causes.
  • Frames his own campaign as aligned with Trump and grassroots conservatism.

Notable Quotes:

"If we had lost, it would have thrown our plans in for redistricting out and we wouldn't have a chance at the Republican seats and it would have thrown our primaries into chaos." — Ken Paxton (07:38)
"All we hear is…he opposed Trump on his border wall. He voted for amnesty 15, 16 times and he fought Trump being reelected." — Ken Paxton (09:28)

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3. The National Redistricting Fight: ‘Political Warfare’ & Filibuster Debate

(10:28–16:48)

• Dave Bossie’s Take:
  • This redistricting fight is "the fight of our lifetime" for control of the U.S. House and Senate.
  • Warns that, while Republicans make gains in Texas and Indiana, Democrats are aggressively redistricting in blue states—often eliminating Republican representation entirely.
  • Bossie criticizes GOP Senate leadership (especially John Thune) for not being aggressive enough in working around (or changing) the filibuster, which (he says) blocks Trump’s legislative agenda.

Notable Quotes:

"We have to have grit and determination… strong leadership that is going to fight for the America first agenda. And I just don't see John Thune doing it." — Dave Bossie (14:38)
"If we do not get by this filibuster… We're going to get started swept out and he's going to be impeached again." — Dave Bossie (16:09)

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4. January 6th Pipe Bomber Arrest & FBI Critique

(20:04–28:56, 31:40–34:19)

• Arrest Segment:

  • Discussion of the recent arrest of Mark Brian Cole Jr. for the January 6 pipe bombs.
  • John Solomon details how, after five years’ delay, a new FBI team quickly used evidence (phone geolocation, surveillance, receipts) to make the arrest.
  • Raises questions of why the case was not solved much sooner—implying “gross negligence, complete incompetence, or something worse” guided the FBI’s earlier inaction.

• Narrative & Bias:

  • Solomon and Bannon speculate that the FBI ignored leads because they did not fit the “preferred narrative” of J6 being a right-wing plot.

Notable Quotes:

"Either gross negligence or complete incompetence. And he [Kash Patel] said neither one is a good standard for the FBI going forward. It won't be tolerated." — John Solomon (22:22)
"If you'd had this guy identified in the first 48, 72 hours, the entire narrative on J6 had gone a different direction." — Steve Bannon (24:39)

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5. Election Integrity: Dallas County Hand Count Initiative

(34:19–39:01)

• Stan Woodward Interview:
  • Describes Republican efforts to hand count all ballots in Dallas County’s upcoming primary—a move framed as a grassroots, anti-machine voting initiative.
  • Emphasizes need for volunteers, judges, clerks and donations.
  • Asserts Dallas can set a national standard for election transparency and grassroots activism.

Notable Quote:

"We're trying to stand up the largest hand count during the primary in March in the US in an urban county… This will kind of pave the way for scale and putting it in other places." — Stan Woodward (36:30)

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6. Grassroots Victories & the Texas Conservative Surge

(39:01–52:37)

• Brian Harrison Interview:
  • Recaps the Supreme Court win but emphasizes it would not have happened without show-of-strength by Texas grassroots activists.
  • Offers the “lesson of Texas” to fellow red states: “Be bold, be fearless, be unapologetic. Put points on the board. Let's save our country for our children and for our grandchildren.” (43:00)
  • Details a recent series of conservative policy wins:
    • DEI programs are being rolled back.
    • Texas A&M’s top DEI official removed.
    • Legislation against pro-terror groups.
    • DMV stops registering illegal immigrants.
  • Touts importance of citizen activism, alternative media, and “the posse.”
  • Notes the establishment is working to unseat him in the next primary, urging continued grassroots support.

Notable Quotes:

"If it wasn't for the prairie fire that you and the posse lit… we never would have got even the five seats.” — Brian Harrison (41:02)
"Texans across our state are having their eyes opened like never before to the rank corruption that has been being perpetrated by the hands of so-called Republicans… And that's when we have been able to deliver some of the biggest conservative results in many years." — Brian Harrison (47:14)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 03:27 | "It used to be if you wanted to figure out what will the Supreme Court do, you'd say, what does case law say?... Now, it's what does the president say? What does Trump say?" | Steve Bannon | | 06:55 | "It was a great Christmas gift for the state of Texas and for the country." | Ken Paxton | | 13:40 | "In a normal world, John Thune is a perfectly fine leader, okay? In a normal time, we are not in a normal time." | Dave Bossie | | 22:22 | "...Either gross negligence or complete incompetence. And he [Kash Patel] said neither one is a good standard for the FBI going forward." | John Solomon | | 24:39 | "If you'd had this guy identified in the first 48, 72 hours, the entire narrative on J6 had gone a different direction." | Steve Bannon | | 36:30 | "We're trying to stand up the largest hand count during the primary in March in the US in an urban county." | Stan Woodward | | 41:02 | "If it wasn't for the prairie fire that you and the posse lit... we never would have got even the five seats." | Brian Harrison | | 43:00 | "Be bold, be fearless, be unapologetic. Put points on the board. Let's save our country for our children and for our grandchildren." | Brian Harrison | | 47:14 | "Texans across our state are having their eyes opened like never before to the rank corruption..." | Brian Harrison |

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 02:34 Texas Supreme Court decision explained
• 06:34 Interview with Texas AG Ken Paxton
• 10:28 Dave Bossie on the national redistricting fight
• 13:40 Senate filibuster discussion and Trump’s legislative agenda
• 20:04 Arrest of January 6th pipe bomber - evidence and delays discussed
• 22:22 John Solomon’s critique of past FBI performance
• 34:19 Stan Woodward on Dallas County hand count and grassroots effort
• 39:01 Brian Harrison on Texas grassroots victories, anti-DEI policy, border issues
• 43:00 Mobilizing other red states—Texas as a template
• 47:14 Political establishment vs. grassroots in Texas

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Flow & Tone

The War Room is combative, fast-paced, and unapologetically partisan, with Bannon driving urgency (“We are at war for the future of this country”), celebrating victories while relentlessly pushing for more aggressive, grassroots-driven conservative action. There is frequent criticism of the "uniparty" and "deep state," and a heavy emphasis on bottom-up activism, not just politics but “saving Western civilization.”

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For Listeners Who Haven't Tuned In

This episode lays out a roadmap for current Republican strategies—using successful redistricting efforts, legal maneuvering, election integrity activism, and grassroots pressure to increase conservative power and influence in 2026 and beyond. It also issues a call-to-arms for other red states to emulate the Texas model of unapologetic political engagement, with the underlying message that alert, angry, and organized grassroots efforts can drive lasting change.

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Summary Table of Main Segments

| Time | Segment | Key Takeaway/Focus | |----------|-------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| | 02:34–06:34 | SCOTUS ruling on Texas maps | Republican legal victory; nat’l model| | 06:34–10:10 | AG Paxton on what’s at stake in redistricting | Importance for TX & GOP in 2026 | | 10:28–16:48 | Dave Bossie on redistricting battle and Senate | Filibuster, Trump, nat’l implications| | 20:04–28:56 | Jan. 6 pipe bomb arrest, FBI criticism | Delays as evidence of agency bias | | 34:19–39:01 | Dallas hand count initiative (Stan Woodward) | Grassroots election integrity efforts| | 39:01–52:37 | Grassroots gains in Texas (Brian Harrison) | Conservative momentum and courage |

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Bottom Line:
This episode celebrates a major Republican legal win and urges the conservative grassroots to intensify activism on multiple fronts—from election laws and anti-establishment primary fights to confronting federal institutions. The implication—one familiar to War Room listeners—is that the American political landscape is actively being contested at every level, and only bold, bottom-up action can “save the Republic.”

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[Stan Woodward]

Supreme Court.

[Brian Harrison]

Cleared the way for Texas to redraw its congressional maps to add probable Republican seats. A lower court had ruled that the.

[Steve Bannon]

Map was unconstitutional because it discriminates on.

[Brian Harrison]

The basis of race. The White House has been pushing national efforts to change districts in favor of Republicans as Republicans face serious headwinds heading.

[Steve Bannon]

Up to the midterms in November.

[Brian Harrison]

Are Democrats in big trouble because of what they're seeing come out of the.

[Steve Bannon]

Suprem in this case with Texas, when.

[Brian Harrison]

You have other states, including Indiana, who's right now looking at redistricting, trying to push the chances for a Democrat to be put in office to the side?

[Steve Bannon]

Well, you know, right now the count looks like it's going to be up for Republicans. Republicans are going to hand themselves more seats in an unprecedented kind of mid decade realignment. But that's not the worst. I mean, that's bad for Democrats.

[Brian Harrison]

What's happening is actually bad for America.

[Steve Bannon]

It used to be if you wanted to figure out what will the Supreme Court do, you'd say, what does a case law say? What is the legal precedent? What does the precedent say now is what does the president say? What does Trump say? You're in a different country when the Supreme Court is basically just straining itself.

[Brian Harrison]

To do whatever the president says, not.

[Steve Bannon]

What the president says. It's bad for Democrats, it's bad for the country.

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And I can tell you this as well, John. I know a lot of the people who are in the West Wing, a lot of them worked on the president's campaign. They are political bloodhounds. And this idea of redrawing the congressional maps in Texas, but also across the country is core to their strategy of trying to be successful in next year's elections. But let's get to this case specifically, because Texas is really core to this push that we've seen from this administration and Republicans at large. And had Texas been blocked from using its map, it basically would have upended this entire strategy. We're seeing the President, this administration, try and deploy. Now, the Supreme Court decision essentially blocks, at least for now, we should note a lower court ruling that found that the new maps were likely unconstitutional racial gerrymandering. And this order comes just days before a Dec. 8 deadline for Texas candidates to file. So this is actually a very interesting timing for all of this, this decision landing when it did. Now, in order for the, in an order from the court, the majority wrote the majority opinion here, that the trial court had, quote, improperly inserted itself into an active primary campaign, causing much confusion and upsetting the delicate federal state balance in elections. Now, one thing, when I was just going through all of this That I found interesting is that the court's majority actually didn't sign it. But we did see in a concurrence opinion from Justice Samuel Alito, of course one of the conservative justices that two others joined him on that as well, Neil Gorston and Clarence Thomas also, both justices. But look one thing very clear as well is that this could continue to be litigated in the lower courts. But this decision and the timing of it essentially means that this is going to be the map in 2026. And so keep that as mind a huge win though for this White House and Republicans.

[Dave Bossie]

John.

[Steve Bannon]

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It's Friday the 5th of December in the year of our Lord 2025. Welcome to the Friday edition of the War Room. We're going to go immediately to the architect of this victory in Texas, the Attorney General of the state of Texas, Ken Paxton. General Paxton, can you get us up to speed on everything pertinent to what happened over the last 24 hours in the Supreme Court?

[Ken Paxton]

Yes, it was a great Christmas gift for the state of Texas and for the country. Getting the Supreme Court to stop a stay put in place by lower court which was a three judge panel that had stopped our current maps from going into place at a very odd time. We're in the middle of filings. Filing in Texas goes from November 8th through December 8th. So literally last minute throws us into chaos because when they stopped our current maps from being in place, everybody's filed under those current maps. It left us in just upended with no real plan for how our primaries are going forward. That's one of the problems. And so we asked U.S. supreme Court, we appealed directly to them very quickly after that ruling within a couple days and asked them to put a stay on the lower courts ruling so that we could continue with our primaries as we had planned and that we got that ruling yesterday. So it was a big, it was a big win. If we had lost, it would have thrown our plans in for redistricting out and we wouldn't have a chance at the Republican seats and it would have thrown our primaries into chaos.

[Steve Bannon]

This is not final. But since they've allowed the filings to go on and the primaries to go on, does it mean in 26 this will be the map?

[Ken Paxton]

This is the map for 26. There's virtually no way for that not to be true. Now, the case is ongoing as it relates to the merits of the case. This was all procedural, but it's definitely a good sign for us. We'll have an argument probably in front of the U.S. supreme Court Court, I would guess next fall for the maps for 28 and 30. But certainly a good sign that the court granted our injunction and allowed us to go forward with the maps in this case.

[Steve Bannon]

General Paxton, fantastic win. Last question. A bunch of polls out of the last couple of days. Two way race in the primary for the U.S. senate in Texas. Three way race. You're leading both, it looks like leading pretty pretty with a pretty good margin. What say you about that?

[Ken Paxton]

Yeah, look, I've been out campaigning since April 8th. I've been saying no one in Texas has ever served five terms in the US Senate. Not Sam Houston, not lbj, not John Tower, not Phil Graham. And this guy's been in office for over 40 years as long as, I mean, I was in college when he got into office. And what I've been asking the voters of Texas is, has he accomplished anything? Anything? Name it. One thing for the state of Texas in the last four decades and the answer has. I've never gotten an answer from, from anybody that notes any notable accomplishment. All we hear is, you know, he limited, he worked with Biden to limit Second Amendment rights. He opposed Trump on his border wall. He voted for amnesty 15, 16 times and he fought Trump being reelected. But because he's got all this money from Washington, he's advertising like he's Donald Trump's best friend and he's being dishonest with the voters. But we're going to win.

[Steve Bannon]

Attorney General Paxton, where do people go to find out more about your campaign and where they go to follow this, this evolving situation in the redistricting fight.

[Ken Paxton]

In Texas at ken paxton tx and.

[Steve Bannon]

Then kenpaxton.com.

General Paxton, thank you for taking time away on a busy Friday to join us here in the worm. Kick things off. Appreciate you.

Big win down to Texas. Brian Harrison is going to join us later. John Sondland up in a moment. I've got Dave Bossie, I think Dave Bossi from an airport before he gets on a plane. Dave Bossi, can you hear me, sir?

[Dave Bossie]

I can, Steve, thanks for having me back this morning. What a big win in the Supreme Court overnight.

[Steve Bannon]

So Dave, reason I want to get you on this redition is you and I talked yesterday in a series of meetings. This reducing fight is everything right now. You're, I think chairman of Maryland. You got West Moore is going to come and take a seat. You got this radical thing in Virginia, the my beloved Commonwealth to go 10 to 1. We just had a big win in Texas, but we're in Indiana. Indianapolis day, I think John Frederick has got the bus. Turning Point's about to do a huge rally. Talk to me about how important this redistricting fight is and how important it is for MAGA if you want to have President Trump's back. This is the fight we got to win now, sir.

[Dave Bossie]

Dave, you couldn't be more right. This is the fight of our lifetime if we do not win these cases. So we have to fight in two different ways. One, we have to fight like, like they are in Texas, like they are in Indiana to redistrict to get because we all know that the election was stolen. We know that it was a bad census, it was a fraud in 2020. And we're going to re, we're, we're educating the American people and we're going to win at the Supreme Court on these cases on offense to get better representation. However, we also, Steve, have to fight in California, in New York, in Illinois, in all of these left wing states where they are trying to steal seats. And that includes Maryland. Maryland only has one Republican member of Congress, that's Andy Harris, chairman of the Freedom Caucus. And they are targeting him because they want Maryland in a fair map. That's what West Moore says. To go 80 because 7 to 1 isn't fair. So they want, the left is on a mission. They all, if they're going to be a national leader on the Democrat Party side, they have to fight Donald Trump at every turn, have to be seen as fighting Donald Trump at every turn. Whether it is, whether it's a rational legal argument or not, they have to fight them. And so this is the fight of our generation to make sure that we keep the House of Representatives and that we have to win in November. And that includes the Senate leadership, the House leadership. We have fights well beyond this on a legislative front that only by engaging in Donald Trump's agenda and passing it are we going to be able to keep the House and Senate no longer. So the, every one of these fights is important.

[Steve Bannon]

You got Pritzker in Illinois, you got Spamberger in the Commonwealth of Virginia. You got Westmore in Maryland. You got, you got Newsom in California. Everyone has presidential aspirations. That's why they're doing. Sure, the Democrats win. But you just brought up another point. And since you brought it up, leadership in the Senate. President Trump has been adamant. He needs the filibuster change at least worked around. You had a magnificent piece the other day, I think in the Washington Times examiner or Daily Caller talked about this. John Thune. Is John Thune getting to be a problem for President Trump and his legislative agenda and most importantly, holding the the Senate and the house in 26?

[Dave Bossie]

Steve, I really, I cannot see any other way to put it. John Thune is not engaged on President Trump's agenda. He doesn't seem to have the backbone for the fights that are necessary. Look, in a normal world, John Thune is a perfectly fine leader, okay? In a normal time, we are not in a normal time. We are at the war for the future of this country. And we have to have grit and determination and the leaders that are willing to fight. And the filibuster is the number one thing that is stopping President Trump's agenda getting through the Senate. We have to deal with it. We don't have the votes. And I think a lot of conservatives recognize we don't have the votes to stop the filibuster. We can't nuke the filibuster because we have Tillison, rand Paul and McConnell and Collins and Murkowsk. We're not going to get the votes, but we certainly can go use the Senate rules to our benefit and fight through the filibuster and force the Democrats to vote. It just takes a different kind of leadership, strong leadership that is going to fight for, for the America first agenda. And I just don't see John Thune doing it.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold on. You're saying in normal times, Thune's fine, but we're at war. This is political warfare. Are you calling for the folks in the sense that you can't get to 51 to change a filibuster? Are you saying it's time to make a change in Senate leadership?

[Dave Bossie]

Well, Steve, I certainly am saying that we need to consider that if John Thune is not willing to do what the will of the American people is, then he ought not be leader and if he is willing to let's get to the fights. Let's get to it. Okay. We are losing time if we do not.

Prove to the American people that we deserve to be in charge of the House and the Senate and the White House and get through it. The legislative agenda that was was swept Donald Trump back into office in his historic second term. What are we doing? We're going to get flushed down the toilet in November. We're going to lose everything.

[Steve Bannon]

You're very close to President Trump. This is a high this situation with the filibuster in a sense a very high priority for him. He said number of times to I think a bunch of us that he's got a legislative agenda that's got to get through and it's got to get through in the first six months of next year. Am I correct in that?

[Dave Bossie]

Look, he is he is locked on to defeating and getting around this filibuster. He knows. He knows and he tells everyone who will listen. If we do not get by this filibuster figure out a way to get our legislative agenda through the United States Senate. We're going to get started swept out and he's going to be impeached again.

[Steve Bannon]

First, first. First doing they do Dave, what's your social media people want to follow you but yep.

[Dave Bossie]

Yeah and by the way Steve, they're going to they're going to get rid of this filibuster as soon as they're in charge.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's not get exactly Democrats. He knows that President Trump what's your social media and where they go for your daily caller op eds yeah go.

[Dave Bossie]

To David Underscore bossi at x and getter and we and truth social please follow us.

[Steve Bannon]

Fight the good fight Dave. Talk to you later. Great Bossie on the redition we're gonna go to Indiana. We got Brian Harrison down in Texas but John Solomon it was a called shot a couple of weeks ago on this very show about an arrest was imminent. It's happened now. What does that mean for what does that mean? How do they not find this guy for 5 years? D John Solomon joins us after a short commercial break.

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Mark Brian Cole Jr. Is going to be in federal court this afternoon.

[Brian Harrison]

What are we expecting?

[Steve Bannon]

Well, cameras are not allowed in federal federal court, but we'll have a team inside. They're going to give us the step by step. Cole Jr. Will face a judge. There's going to be a formal reading of the charges. An attorney will be assigned to him if he needs an attorney. He's also going to face those Charges of leaving the pipe bombs outside the RNC DNC on January 5, 2021. It's expected on this will be a quick proceeding. The judge will then decide does he set bail or will he be remanded into custody. We're going to find out in just a few hours.

[John Solomon]

You've expressed caution to us about that, that you really can't draw any conclusions at this point. One one person familiar with the matter told us we just don't know what the drivers are at this point. But there is some concern about his mental health, about his mental state, about.

[Steve Bannon]

His antisocial tendencies that could end up looming larger than any particular ideological motive in this case.

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[Steve Bannon]

So they had multiple.

[John Solomon]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

They had the geolocation data that was from the suspect's phone. They had surveillance footage. They compared that data. They were able to triangulate that they had credit card receipts, purchases made by the suspect. So they had him sort of the planning, if you allegedly. The planning, the sort of procedure of putting that together and then the placement. They also had that lpr, that license plate reader that hits on. On the vehicle. They will put that together, put that in the side. But the big question is, what took the FBI so long? You heard Director Patel said they've been sitting on that. The prior administration had been sitting on that for four years. And that's a big question that law enforcement wants answers.

John Solomon, you had a cold shot on this show, I think the day before Thanksgiving or you said, hey, there was going to be a rest. You actually picked it to happen in these last couple of days, brother, you've been doing this, I don't know, 30, 40 years. I don't get this one. I mean, Dan Bongino is a former cop, former Secret Service. He's a smart guy. He's a great guy. We're so glad he stuck around and didn't punch out as deputy FBI Cash is our guys, you know. And look, what they did is magnificent. But brother, I do not understand when you go through some of the basic stuff they're talking about as evidence are going to be presented today. What happened for five years, sir?

[John Solomon]

Yeah, well, listen, I thought Cash Patel said it best on the top of our show last night. There's only two explanations for why the Ray FBI didn't solve this case. Either gross negligence or complete incompetence. And he said neither one is a good standard for the FBI going forward. It won't be Tolerated going forward. They put a new team on this, as we talked about yesterday, like six, seven weeks ago. Very quickly, they're able to sew together the license plate reader, the phone tracking, and then the purchase receipts. They then put a surveillance team on this guy because they're not going to be the FBI that tells you, oh, he committed another crime. And we had him on our radar, but we didn't catch him. So they start surveilling him to make sure he doesn't create any more attacks. And they keep watching him until they build the case, until it's just so rock solid they can roll him up. And they have a lot of information by the time they roll him up. His height is the height of the pipe bomber that they estimated in the videotape. His phone matches the track exactly, including the stop that we reported a couple weeks ago at the Congressional Black Caucus building. On the way there, he has multiple purchases of pipe bomb making materials going all the way back to 2019 and even into 2021. And that's a very important point. Kash Patel said last night that they are now investigating whether because he was buying material for a long period of time, was he creating pipe bombs for other tax. Did he have other plots? Did he have other conspirators? They're going to look at that. And then the last thing that Kash Patel told us is we're going to do a behavioral analysis. We're going to have a profiler look at this young man. He's slight by all accounts. He was withdrawn and socially awkward. He works for a father whose bail bonds business was involved in helping illegal immigrants. He works for. He lives with his mother. Who is this man? What drove him? Is it ideological? Is it illness? Those are all things that the FBI is going to get to pretty quickly. But the answer that why the Ray team didn't solve this earlier with the evidence that was so obviously easy to put together, it's either gross negligence or complete incompetence. And as Kash Patel said, that's not going to be a standard for the FBI going forward.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, but it could also be they didn't want to do it. I mean, they consciously made a decision.

[John Solomon]

Narrative.

[Steve Bannon]

Bill, here's the reason. If you had had these guys, if you'd had this guy identified in the first 48, 72 hours, the entire narrative on J6 had gone a different direction. This was the one that. And this is why Darren Beatty and Raheem Kassam, yourself, Julie Kelly. So many people for so many years have Focused on this, sir.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, listen, that. I think when history looks back at the era of James Comey and Chris Wray, what you're going to see is he had an FBI that followed narrative leads, not evidentiary leads. And I think that that's a really important thing. Now, did they find Cole and say, oh, we can't look at this guy, black guy, not a MAGA guy, we're not going to look at him, or because they weren't even looking for that type of suspect, did they just dismiss the evidence trail that was there? I think that that is a really significant issue. And I think the truth of the matter is my dad was a very successful cop for 47 years, rose to be the chief inspector in Connecticut. He solved hundreds of murders. And he had this rule, never lock into a storyline. Just follow the evidence, don't develop a story, follow the evidence. The second you start developing narratives and you know the bosses want that narrative, you start to not look at things that might be the true evidence that lead you to the crime. And I think the FBI of the last decade, before Cash and Dan got their hands on it, they were narrative builders. They were more interested in following the media narrative, the narrative of their bosses, the narrative of the rhino establishment in Washington. And therefore things that didn't fit got thrown out. That's why they missed all the warning signs that they were on a false track on Russia. It's why they missed so many of the other big arrests of the last decade, why you always find out after the fact they had someone on their radar. I think there's something very important to be watching in the next couple days. I think the FBI is about to provide some new evidence to Congress about what those FBI informants, those people that were on the ground on 6 January in the crowd, what they were tracking in the weeks before. And I think one of the things that we should find out is whether some of those informants were warning the FBI about people with potential left ideologies also having bad intentions on January 6th. That would be another piece of the narrative that would have been buried because it didn't fit the storyline.

[Steve Bannon]

Look, you're also quite like Paxton and Bossie before you. You're very close to the President. We got. We're the grand jury on the conspiracy, the biggest conspiracy in the history, the country, the US prosecutor, and that's going to take care of that. But we also have an institutional problem we have to deal with. And I don't think it's being dealt with because people are so busy kind of doing these things. Your advice to the President, institutionally, the FBI, DOJ in the, in the CIA, what we refer to as the front line of the deep state comer. You can't do this congressional investigation. What is your recommendation? If we want to break the deep state state, what do we got to do, starting with the FBI?

[John Solomon]

Listen, Cash said at the end of the show yesterday, I'm going to write a whole story about this tomorrow that there is a criminal investigation of the FBI agents and players who were involved in Arctic Frost all the way up to and including those who might have been trying to destroy the evidence in the four or five days before Donald Trump took evidence. By the way, that's an easy story for Americans to do. Richard Nixon, 19 minute gap tape. Right. You bring those, you walk those guys in handcuffs before the American people. Every agent downstream knows they ain't going to take that risk going forward. You need one significant slam dunk, hard hitting case that makes an example. By the way, I think there's 10 or 20 cases to be made, not just on Arctic Frost, but in other issues. You just get a half dozen, a dozen. You've created a decade or two of deterrence because the fact of the matter is the majority of FBI agents want to be doing what Cash Patel and Dan Bongino just did yesterday. They just want to slap handcuffs on bad guys and stop crimes. That's what they want to do. Now you get caught up in the hysteria of your bosses and you start doing bad things. But a couple deterrent cases would have the most profound effect. It would be far more effective than 100 letters from House Judiciary or 300 hearings in Congress or another special counsel report. Put a few people with handcuffs, get them convicted, put them in prison. People aren't going to cheat in law enforcement and intelligence anymore.

[Steve Bannon]

Before I let you go, your blockbuster scoop yesterday on the dark money, it's coming from the likes of the Reid Hoffman's the world. I mean the real Trump haters. And people have to understand they're funding all this Trump hate. They're funding all of this opposition, the redistricting, all this has got their, these guys have their hands in everything. Any updates on that? Because that has got to be, we've got to put it into that and we got to expose these people and we got to start charging the these people.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, institutionally the Justice Department is starting to dry up some of this money. You know, one of the things, a lot of money comes from universities, right. They get research money, they put it back into the system. Those researchers end up paying lots of big donations to the Democrats. I think academics are like 80, 90% likely to donate. Democrat half billion dollars has been taken from universities and settlements in the last few months. That is a historic amount of money being drained out of one of the left leftist institutions in America. You got 26 voter rolls that haven't been cleaned up in a long time that are being forcibly cleaned up because of the great work of Harmeet Dhillon and Pam Bondi. And then I think the IRS and FBI are going to roll up a whole bunch of nonprofits that are not doing nonprofit work. They're doing political work by taking tax exemptions. You could see a significant drying up of the one advantage Democrats have. They don't have the advantage of policies that are aligned with the American people, but man, do they have cash. They got so much cash. A lot of it comes from government. I think Donald Trump, without a lot of people noticing it, his team is drying up the left cash, particularly the nonprofit money, the university money. It's something that could have a significant effect, particularly when paired with the redistricting and the voter rolls cleaned up. There may be a more fair election in 2016 because a lot of old issues have been cleaned up.

[Steve Bannon]

Pam Bonnie is also talking about going after the extremist groups with the irs, Muslim Brotherhood. You better, better take a lesson there, John. Watch out, John. Where do people go to get you?

[John Solomon]

Yeah. John Jay Solomon reports on social media justinnews.com and I'm lucky enough to follow you every night. 6:00 clock on Real America's Voice.

[Steve Bannon]

John, great interview with Cash last night. This interview's done.

[John Solomon]

Thank you, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

Great job.

[John Solomon]

Good to be with you.

[Steve Bannon]

Birch Gold. We're gonna have Philip Patrick on got Liz Truss. She's going after the deep state. And we got we're going to have Philip Patrick join us. The Russians have said if you take our hundred billion, $300 billion, we're going to go to war about it. What does that mean for capital markets? What does it mean for gold? Birchgold.com promo code Bannon into the dollar empire. Philip Patrick, war room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

So Philip Patrick will be on with US hopefully about 11:30. The President is going to be over at the Kennedy center for the FIFA. FIFA. I think it's the drawing he's going to be hosting that we're going to go that's going to be about 11:40, 11:45 may run late, maybe during the Charlie Kirk show at noon. The President will be at the, the Kennedy Center. So we will check that out.

This is unbelievable. I just don't believe Chris Wray. No, because the narrative would have been totally, completely different if you had had a BLM associated, if you'd had some anarchist, some radical, some left winger as the pipe bomber. And this is why people, Raheem and Darren Beatty and Julie Kelly years ago, for those who have been with the show over a number of years, particularly in January 2021, you know what a big deal this was. The whole narrative would have been changed. The, the, you wouldn't have had the, you know, the Prime Time J6 Committee, which was totally funny. You wouldn't had any of that. So you can't tell me Chris Ray and these guys, as great as Bongino and Cash are.

You know, putting new eyes on it seven weeks ago and come up with an arrest already when he had the entire FBI. It just doesn't, it doesn't hold. It shows you how corrupt that institution is. And I appreciate John Solomon, but I just think that we gotta go in there with a meat ax and just start taking the thing apart. You know, there ought to be some federal law enforcement, but does it need to be. The FBI wanted us to take the whole thing down and restructure, give the counterterrorism and counterintel piece to dhs, to the Joe Kent and the people do it there anyway. Although that's foreign, just add a domestic element to it and then just hive it off from the FBI and have some law enforcement associated with the U.S. attorneys. I don't think the FBI can be reformed and I don't think you can do it. It's not about personnel. I just don't believe that. I think institutionally it's too corrupt. We've got to get to the bottom of this thing. Cause so much of the agony of J6 and people going to prison and all the, you know, the thousand people, they destroyed their lives and hounded President Trump, that entire thing would have never happened if he had identified this guy in the first 48 hours. Of course they're not going to do it because it would totally flip the narrative. And now John Salma says in the next, I guess early next week, we're going to hear about the FBI agents that were there that were warning about Antifa and other people. That would also be a narrative changer for them.

Gotta get to Bombardment. Also a national. The national strategy paper from the White House is out. It's 26 pages long. I want to make sure Grace and Mo, get it to everybody. We're going to have probably Tomorrow, I'll have Captain Fennell, hopefully Dr. Thayer, Jack Posobec, a bunch of us will go through it. It's quite, quite, in fact, I'm going to ask Liz Truss about it. Talks about the fall of European civilization and quite frankly, the countries in Europe as they exist today may not exist in 30 years. That's pretty important coming from an American strategy paper as they talk about NATO and our alliances. All of it's pretty shocking. Some of the, some of the things, some of the topics in this, in this strategy paper put out officially by the White House, President Trump's strategy is pretty, pretty strong. Also gets back and talks about the American worker as a key to national security, which I think is fantastic. Stan Woodward joins us from Dallas, Dallas County. Stan, I want to talk about the revolutionary. What you guys have come up with now, the clock's ticking. I think you got an extension because it was such an outpouring last night from the Warren posse and others that saw the broadcast. What exactly are you guys trying to accomplish and what do you need to accomplish it, sir?

[Stan Woodward]

Yeah, thanks, Steve. The war room showed up. I mean, I think you gave us two minutes and it turned into, you know, four or five hours of great activity. So the South Texas contingent, you know, showed up. We've got people from all over Long Island, San Antonio, Dallas, every so can't think enough. So what do we need to do? We've got a very short amount of time. We did close the gap quite a bit. We've got about $50,000 left to go and really today, like we needed, you know, that needs to come in. DallasGOP.org handcount is the URL. There's a sign up page on there and right next to it is a donation button. Those are restricted accounts just for the hand count. We've got a great team on this. Again, our chair has been amazing and supporting from this, Colonel Allen west and the whole team. And we're excited. So we're almost there and we've got a lot of work left to do, but super helpful and thanks for having me on here. But essentially we're trying to stand up the largest hand count during the primary in March in the US in an urban county. A lot of smaller counties are doing this, but this would be a large urban county, around 70,000 ballots, 3,300 counters. We'll need judges. The fun thing about judging is you don't have to deal with the machines. So a Lot less friction. So we need judges, we need alternate judges and clerks and it'll be, it'll be quite a deal. And again, the war room is showing up and we need your support and quickly.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you believe if we have a successful hand count of paper ballots in the primary march that this will spread to the rest of Texas and we'll have the jewel in the crown? We'll be doing paper ballots hand counted, sir?

[Stan Woodward]

Absolutely. What it shows is how you can implement it at scale. Smaller and medium sized counties are already looking to do this. There's a lot of friction, a lot of pushback. But what I said yesterday, I'd say again, the consistency of how everybody is getting along, how we're trading best practices, you know, we, we were on Steve Stearns the other day and you know, for the first time ever, I'm listening to a lot of the folks talking about, you know, election integrity on it and everybody's really singing off the same sheet of music. So we're, we're definitely going to prove that and these smaller and mid sized counties are already proving it. So yes, the answer is absolutely. This will kind of pave the way for scale and putting it in other places.

[Steve Bannon]

Last time. Where do people, where do people go to make contact with you guys? Either donation or to volunteer to be a counter or judge or whatever.

[Stan Woodward]

Yes. Dallas. Yeah. DallasGOP.org handcount DallasGOP.org handcounts real simple and right in the middle of the page. You can sign up and then we'll figure out where we need you to go as we get into this. And then there's a donation button that goes to restricted accounts just for the hand count. And so I think we've got it set up right. It's easy, it's right there for you. And again, can't thank you all enough because it's made a huge difference yesterday and I know it will today.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you brother. Appreciate you.

[Stan Woodward]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Every pile in there, particularly everybody around the country that's been for hand counted, game day, game day count, paper ballots, it's the holy grail, let's do it. And support those folks, Melissa Katz and those great folks down in Dallas County. Brian Harrison. So much activity out of the great state of Texas. I mean it's just incredible. Kind of a sea change of grassroots of people engaged, etc. But first, you know, none of this would be happen if it was not for Glenn's story. The team at Patriot Mobile, their political, you know, their activist organization, yourself, that studio down there Just getting together. You kind of conceived this a couple of months ago that we had to do it on a special session. And next thing you know, not only we get it done, at least with five votes, you've changed the totally, you changed the total dynamic in the country. But now to have the Supreme Court weigh in and of course our beloved paper of record, the New York Times puts it as the lead story, left hand column. Justices allow new Texas maps to fate. That favorite GOP set for 2026 election ruling hands a victory to norm shattering redistricting effort Norm shattering After New England is 25 nothing. Illinois is what, 17 to 3. Virginia is about to go 10 to 1. California is 48 to 4. But you sir, and the, and the people at Patriot Mobile, all the grassroots activists down there, you are norm shattering, sir.

[Brian Harrison]

You know Steve, I love coming on your show, but I do often get upset with you because you usually bring me on by forcing me to listen to, you know, five minutes of MSNBC or reading from the New York Times. But I guess in this instance I'm not too upset about that because the New York Times, I can just feel the seething hate from the reporters as they had to write that headline. It's exactly right. It's a big victory for the people of Texas and the people, the patriots across the country. And you listed a lot of people that deserve credit and thanks in this effort. But I got to thank you and the posse. I absolutely believe if it wasn't for the prairie fire that you and the posse lit under the rhino establishment down here in the state of Texas, we never would have got even the five seats. Now you and everybody watching knows we probably should have gone bigger and got more. But we got the five. That is a good thing. And especially if this three judge panel that struck down those maps had been allowed to stay and if California Prop 50 had happened, we were talking about a 10 seat flip for the Democrats. So the stakes were absolutely huge. This was a herculean effort and it looks like we're going to have some success pay off as we head into into next year. So it's a victory coming out of the Supreme Court and there's just no way around it. And on this norm shattering thing real quick, here's the dirty little secret that the Democrats and the national establishment media like the New York Times don't want you to know. They have no problem. I'll be really clear about this. The Democrats in the media had no problem whatsoever with states redrawing their maps to maximize partisan political Advantage. They're just angry that Republican states are finally doing what Democrat state after leftist Democrat state has been doing for five years, 10 years, 15 years, all across the country. Texas was late to the game, but we finally got something done. We're putting some, putting some points on the board. And, yeah, it's pissing off the Democrats and the media.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian, we're going to go. John Frederick's got Turning Point rally at noon in Indian Indiana, in the state Capitol in Indianapolis. What is your message is, is what happened in Texas transferable to Kansas and Nebraska? And in Indiana, you know, Missouri, Ohio, there's, there's a bunch of other potential seats on the table that you've. That we could get, but it takes in Florida. We understand things are going to happen, but is there a lesson for the political class to take from the grassroots efforts in Texas that can go nationwide?

[Brian Harrison]

It's, it's a great question. I think the biggest lesson coming out of Texas is to my colleagues, okay? My comrades and patriots in arms in state legislative roles in Republican states across the country. Take it from somebody who was on the front lines down here in Texas. Ignore the noise and be bold, okay? The liberals, the media, they're gonna run the same playbook. Whether you add one seat or whether you add five, 10, 15. Go bold. What is the absolute maximum number of Republican seats that you can get? And then you fight like hell for the people that you represent to deliver that. Because never forget, you're still playing catch up. I mean, all the northeastern state. I can't even remember how many of the states that have, like 30% of their voters are Republican. 35% of their voters are Republican. They get zero Republican seats in those states. California, they got 52 seats. They're about to give. Even 40% of the voters in California are Republican. Gavin Newsom wants to give California Republicans, who make up 40% of the electorate, two or three seats in their new map. So keep in mind you're not doing this in a vacuum. We're playing catch up. And it's long past time that elected Republicans and state legislatures across the country get in the battle, realize the stakes, and start fighting as hard for the future of these United States and our republic as the liberal, progressive, Marxist leftist Democrats have for the past 10 or 20 years. Be bold, be fearless, be unapologetic. Put points on the board. Let's save our country for our children and for our grandchildren. Because, Steve, as you and the posse know, we're not just in a battle in one state or one state. We're in a battle for the future of Western civilization and red states. We are the line in the sand to preserve the union. And to every one of my colleagues in those states, be bold, be unafraid, be fearless.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian, if you could hang over for a second, we're taking a short commercial break. I want to ask you about. There's a couple other things going on in Texas that I think show a new attitude of the grassroots of, you know, I keep saying, tell people victory begets victory. As soon as you get a win, you can understand, hey, these things are doable when we get them done. Home tide lock. Every dream you've ever had is in your home.

[Ken Paxton]

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[Steve Bannon]

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

So, Brian, in Texas, you know, we met in July about a lot of the grassroots down there were very upset that, you know, it is a MAGA base. It may be the most MAGA state in the union, you know, and you got the folks in Florida, you got a ton of MAGA voters in California, you got Ohio. But Texas has always had a special place. You just came off monumental wins for President Trump, I think by 14 points after a source put in all that money Ted Cruz won. I think by 11 you've had monumental wins. But the grassroots didn't feel like they were getting their wins. Now you've got this situation of hand counted, same day ballot counting paper ballots in Dallas County. You've had Abbott really take a lead even from President Trump and designate the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations and get to the bottom of that, particularly the fact they can't, that they can't, they won't be able to terrorize Muslim citizens in the state of Texas. Right. You're going to stop all that nonsense. You've got, you've had win after win, the redistricting DEI finally, you know, head of Texas A and M gone. Now you've had statewide policy change. Are we starting to see the political establishment start understand that the, that the grassroots and you got Cornyn, Cornyn's a distant third in this primary, I think is shocking given the amount of money he's putting up on traditional media. Is the grassroots you think that is, is the roar of that lying lion starting to be heard in Austin and other places around the the state with the, the folks that run Texas.

[Brian Harrison]

Yeah, Much to the chagrin. Okay, the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the political establishment liberal uniparty that's run the Texas government for far too long. Here, here's what's going on down here. Texas has for many years enjoyed this reputation as leading in the defense of liberty and freedom and small government, low taxes and low regulations. But the reality is that has just been a myth. And the Texas government has basically been funding with tax dollars for many years, basically everything that Charlie Kirk dedicated his life to defeating. Texans are being taxed out of our homes. We still have by one study, the highest effective property tax rate in all of America. Okay, that's outrageous. And for that money, what are we doing with all that? Well, we've basically been funding a far left radical agenda. We've been one of the biggest funders of transgender indoctrination and DEI and corporate welfare and Hollywood subsidies. But here's why I have hope and here's why I'm excited and here's why I have optimism is that Texans across our state are having their eyes opened like never before to the rank corruption that has been being perpetrated by the hands of so called Republicans underneath the corrupt pink dome in Austin, Texas. And it's because of the posse, it's been because of patriots grassroots that quite frankly going and following, even just following me on social media on X have made their voice heard. Because when Texans learn about the betrayal and the corruption, they don't tolerate it, they don't stand for it, they demand action. And that's when we have been able to deliver some of the biggest conservative results in many years. And just in the last two months, I mean you mentioned several. I mean just from the results of my Twitter feed and coming on War Room and another alternative media so called alternative, we have delivered more victories for conservatism then the entire Texas House, Texas Senate, governor, Lieutenant Governor had. In the three sessions we had this year, we ended the biggest DEI program. We forced the biggest DEI program in Texas to basically be shut down against the will of the establishment who had been running it for years. We got rid of the DEI advocate former Obama official who was running Texas A and M. And then just recently after I sounded the alarm on this and came on your show and talked about it, stopped the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles from what they had been doing, which was facilitating illegal immigration by handing out vehicle registrations to illegal aliens at the dmv. Oh, and by the way the DMV is where people register to vote. So the biggest border security thing that we have done, and I mean, Texas Monthly, a liberal rag down here, mouthpiece for the liberal establishment, just months ago did a whole profile of me calling me the cockroach of the Texas legislature. I loved it by the way it's framed and hanged prominently in my office. But just 24 hours ago they had to update the story and are now referring to me as a quote, drone pilot whose kill rate is, quote, impressive because of my almost one hand single handed crusade to weed out DEI leftist indoctrination and in our public universities. And I don't say that to pat myself on the back, I say that because I am simply the vessel by which the patriots across Texas and America have a voice to expose the corruption and force the change from the establishment who does not want to change. They want to continue pursuing liberalism, but they understand that the voters they work for, their eyes are being opened. And I think we're, we're entering a turning point in a new day and a new period of transparency and accountability. And I'm just humbled and honored to get to play a, play a small part in it.

[Steve Bannon]

Real quickly before we go, I understand the Republican establishment's not, not, they're less of a fan even than the Texas, definitely in the left. They're going to try to stand up a, a competitor to you because you're not conservative enough. They need actually a true conservative down in your district. Can you give us any update on that?

[Brian Harrison]

Yeah, absolutely. The Swamp is absolutely going to do everything they can to take me out. Our primaries come up in February, so Posse, I need your help. If you've appreciated these kind of victories that I've been able to lock arms with you to defeat. The Swamp has got at least one opponent, a radical leftist teacher union shill who hates President Trump, has advocated to tear down the border wall, advocated to stop the bills to protect girls in school bathrooms, has supported tax raising property taxes and supported taxpayer funded pornography in our public schools. That is my current opponent. And then there's talk of them actually finding another potential opponent, a former, a Democrat donor, if you can believe it, to also join the fray. So that may be happening soon. The Swamp, here's the bottom line. They're going to do everything they can to take out the boldest and most effective conservative in the Texas government. And I could just. Let me tell you, I can't tell you enough how appreciative and humbled I've been for the outpouring of support from the posse. But I may need some help as we go into the next couple of months just to keep the swamp from where to where to be in the Texas House.

[Steve Bannon]

Where do people find out about your campaign, where they go and your and your Twitter feed.

[Brian Harrison]

Go to X X at Brian E. Harrison on X. There's a link on there. Please like follow share but click that link. Donate $1 $2 $5 $5000 Brian E. Harrison on X at Brian E. Harrison. Help me continue to protect the state of Texas so the state of Texas can protect our union and then so protect the planet. But at Brian E. Harrison, I'd appreciate anything you guys can do to help us out there.

[Steve Bannon]

Western civilization in the balance once President Trump said today in his his strategy paper, Brian, thank you. Let you go back to work. You go from the Texas Monthly. Texas Monthly, one of the most revered progressive publications in the country. Brian Harrison goes from a cockroach to a drone pilot with a impressive kill ratio. We're gonna take a short commercial break. The 56th Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is going to join us. Talk about the deep state next. We're also to going going to go to Indianapolis to check on the Turning Point rally at the state capital. Short commercial break. Back in the War in just a moment.

[Brian Harrison]

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