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Stephen K. Bannon
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it.
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Steve Bannon
I know you try to do everything.
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General Mike Flynn
In the world to stop that, but.
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Steve Bannon
You'Re not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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General Mike Flynn
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Welcome. It's Saturday six December in the year of our Lord 2025. A lot to get through today. We've got General Mike Flynn, Laura Logan, Julie Kelly and others. But we're going to start in Doha, Qatar with Breitbart's chief political editor, Matt Boyle. Matt, first off, what do you do? It's a little controversial. They've been, they've been, they've been slammed. MARK levin, TEL AVIV Levin's been slamming Tucker for being a cutter. But I noticed Don Junior's there. Many, many senior members of the American political class are there to talk. You're covering it. You're actually doing main stage interviews. What's the controversy?
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Matt Boyle
Well, look, I mean.
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There are a lot of people out there that have questions about Qatar and they things that they fund and their influence and so on and so forth. I mean, they're, you know, reasonable questions, I guess. As for Tucker, obviously, Tucker's been a lightning rod as of late. The Look, I'm friendly with Tucker. I may see him this weekend. I haven't seen him yet. The.
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I'm a huge fan of his. I owe a lot of my career start to Tucker. I worked for him for three years at the beginning of my career as a journalist. But, you know, I mean, there are some things he, he's done that I would do. There are other things that I wouldn't. It is what it is. You know, Tucker is Tucker. I'm me. I also think Tucker should be able to interview who he wants to. Right. Like so the, so I think that a lot of the controversies and whatnot around him are, are unfair. But so I think that, you know, again, you've got certain people with a certain foreign policy worldview. You know, I think that want to return to the old Bush way of doing things that are out there, you know, attacking anyone that would move away from that and, you know, move towards a future that President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Rubio have laid out so brilliantly. I think the thing that I'm thinking.
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Steve Bannon
Why do they look I'm the most anti Qatar guy around because I was the tip of the spirit and trying to get it, trying to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. As you remember, the first administration.
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You know, they, they were, they were, they were in our grill.
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Matt Boyle
Still talk about the embargo. Yeah.
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Steve Bannon
But, but, but they came within 72 hours. The Royal family and Qatar are being turfed out and clearly they decided on another strategy against UAE and against Saudi. People should understand the Gulf Emirates are not exactly bosom bud. There's a lot of controversy. Abbott just designated the CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organizations, which I think Saudi Arabia and UAE have already done. MBZ and mbs. There's still a lot of questions about Qatar, but I don't know why they're singling out Tucker Carlson. I mean, you're there, Don Jr's there, the Clintons are there. There's kind of a all star list of not just Americans. You have people all over the world. I think you've interviewed the head of Greece, but there's people from all over Europe. Why are Ted Cruz and Tel Aviv Levin singling out Tucker?
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Matt Boyle
I think they're going after Tucker because they don't like his foreign policy worldview. And again, they want to. I think a lot of this is about 2028. I think a lot of this is about trying to return the Republican Party back to the old Bush globalist ways of doing things. When the day comes that President Trump's no longer the president and they're plotting for that right now.
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General Mike Flynn
Right.
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Matt Boyle
Like so I think that's why they're doing that. And by the way, I would add that in addition to Tucker, there's several people from the Trump administration here. Right. Like Matt Whitaker, who's the U.S. ambassador to NATO is here. Alex Brucewicz, who is one of President Trump's top outside advisors on the campaign stuff runs X Strategies. Young, bright mind I think is here. There are several other administration officials here, I believe Ambassador Barak, who is the US Ambassador to Turkey, is here, so there is a strong presence from the United States here. In addition to that, as you mentioned, I interviewed on stage at the Doha Forum earlier today the Greek foreign minister, and he was very complimentary of President Trump during our interview. He said that.
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That the Trump administration, President Trump and his team should be praised for the things that they've done to rewrite the world order when it comes to trade and immigration and when it comes to peace. Right. Like. And I think that's one of the things that we're hearing from people across the board here. I was at the opening ceremony of this event where CNN anchor Christian Amanpour was interviewing, among others, on stage. It was a big panel, but the Prime Minister here in Qatar, Sheikh Mohammed, as well as.
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Several European. And I believe there was a Turkey's foreign minister, a European EU official, and there was, like, somebody else from Spain. First off, she mixed up the Turkish and the Spanish guy. Right? And she had to correct herself halfway through the panel on stage. It was a really embarrassing moment for cnn. And I was sitting there just shocked and in awe that Christian Amor would. Would make such a silly, embarrassing mistake.
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Steve Bannon
Come on, dude. Come on, dude. She's lost her. She's lost her fastball. You know that.
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General Mike Flynn
Come on.
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Matt Boyle
Yeah, yeah. No, hey.
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Brett Jensen
Wheeling her out.
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General Mike Flynn
To Christian. To Christian.
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Steve Bannon
I'm.
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Matt Boyle
And poor. They all look the same. Right? Like, but the. That being said.
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Steve Bannon
Oh, boy. Boy went there. But, but. But.
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Matt Boyle
That being said, Steve, she tried to go them into attacking President Trump, and she was quoting the new National Security Strategy from the president and from the White House, and none of them would take the bait. Not even the Spanish guy. Right. Like, so the Turkish guy, the Spanish guy, the EU lady, and certainly the Prime Minister of Qatar all were very supportive and.
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Openly backing what President Trump is doing here with regard to peace deals. And the Qataris have been a major part of trying to achieve that peace agenda that we're seeing from President Trump. You see these deals?
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. We got Rabbi Willicki, you know, and he's a obviously huge supporter of Israel. He's going to come on in the second hour. Flynn's going to follow us about the national security strategy, which I found very interesting, particularly the fact that Europe's not going to exist in 20 years. Civilizational collapse. But you've got. The Russians overnight are pounding Ukraine like nobody's business. We're still having happy talk about Ukrainian sovereignty. Well, he's coming on to say, hey, look, Hamas and Israel are going at it hard every day that he doesn't really see. And they've already said they're not going to have Turkish troops. President Trump's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. He's trying to get these peace deals. But you have two sides on this that are not actually being active partners, right? I mean, the Ukrainians still have these over the top request. The Europeans still want the Americans to bail them out. You know, Turkey and Qatar are not going to really move on Gaza until, you know, they're not going to disarm Hamas. Willicki brought up the fact in the 17 point UN resolution, it's kind of left open who's going to disarm them. With all President Trump's work and he's got good teams on this. The two sides in both of these conflicts, the kinetic part of the third World War are pretty far apart. I mean, they're still going at each other. And President Trump, I know, wants to stop the killing, stop the shooting, and then cut some sort of economic deal so people can go on and prosper. But this is what happens when you have people that fighting each other for thousands of years. Matt, it's not that simple. These, all these people hate each other. They're going to try to take every advantage. And the United States has got to make sure with America first, you know, like do the national security strategy. We said, hey, a pox on all their houses. Matt Boyle.
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Matt Boyle
Yeah, yeah, no, Steve, I agree 100%. It reminds me of something that everything you just said there reminds me of something that Secretary Rubio told me at the very beginning of this administration when they set start all of this before any of the peace deals that we've seen announced have come out, where he talked about how it's so much easier to just keep fighting and to stay at war than it is to pursue peace than it is to get to actual peace deals. So yeah, they've got the Gaza deal inked and whatever, but hey, this is not over yet, right? Like, and same thing, you know, the Ukraine deal, hopefully on the horizon, but still, even once the deal is inked, it's not over until it's over and even then it's not over. Right? Like it's a lot easier to keep fighting and to keep engaging in war than it is to actually get to peace. And that's why I think you're seeing a lot of these people praise President Trump because he's actually going out there and trying to solve this stuff and end these conflicts because he doesn't want to see the killing continue.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on. You've got your finger on the, on the pulse of the base. I mean, you did this under Tucker, you did it under Andrew Breitbart, you did it under me. You're now running the deal yourself over there. You've got your finger on the base better than anybody. Isn't one of the things the base are saying, look, President Trump, we love you, You're a man of peace. You've tried to do this, you've tried to end this third world War, but you're not getting any cooperation at all from really any of the parties when it gets down to it, because they just want to keep killing each other. Do you think, do you think it's time that more attention is paid domestically, or you think he's doing enough right now domestically? Particularly given the fact that there's a lot of restive nature about the, about the coming midterms. You see, in Indiana, they're still, you know, Mitch Daniels and Pence, these guys are still trying to fight us. Sir. Yeah.
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Matt Boyle
Can both things be true here, Steve? I think that both things can be true. Right. Like, I think that he should continue to pursue peace because it's the right thing to do. And frankly, it keeps us from getting dragged into wars that are even more costly. I mean, look at the last war that we were in, which was Afghanistan. 20 years, billions and billions of dollars, you know, and countless lives. The war is.
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It'S worse than not war. Right. Like so. And then you talk about these domestic issues that we have, right? The deindustrialization, the economic problems or whatever. If we get dragged into another war, then that's not good for the United States and for those working class people. So I think it's important that you keep the eye on both balls here. Right? Like, I think you can do that if you're President Trump. But yeah, you're right. Like, he's got to do a ton more domestically, economically as well. Secretary Besant keeps talking about how in the first half of next year we're going to have a major economic boom. Right. Like, and a phrase I keep hearing, hearing from people across Maga, and I've talked about this publicly, I keep hearing everybody say, and Secretary Besant, we trust. Right? And Scott Besant, we trust. There's a lot of hope that he's right. But at the same time, there's always more you can do economically, domestically as well. So both things can be true, I think Here. But again, the one thing I will say is that worldwide as compared with his first term. And again, I really encourage people. We're going to get the video up on Breitbart later today. It's evening time here in Doha, right. It's dark outside and I'm in a dark hotel room as we're doing this. But.
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Later today on the east coast, our video guys are working on cutting the video of my interview with the Greek foreign minister. I can tell you that Trump has really inspired people around the world. And he literally says as much in the interview. Right. Like right at the open of the interview, he, he literally says that, you know, Trump should be commended for the changes that he's made to the world.
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Steve Bannon
By the way, very symbolic. Johnny Khan, the great Johnny Khan of Breitbart taking us out with the anthem of the Tea Party, American heart. Matt, people are going to, you're there I think till Tuesday or Wednesday or something. People are going to want to follow you. The Twitter we're on Breitbart, but particularly is it live streaming? Can you give us quickly live stream? Because they're going to want to see. You're going to do some big interviews that have not been announced yet. Where they go.
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Matt Boyle
Yeah, @envoy1 on Twitter x that will be the best place. And@breitbart.com so like our team at Breitbart will have everything up there.
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Steve Bannon
Matt Boyne, I hope you run into Tucker, tell him hi. Glad he's actually over there doing it. Matt Boyle, thank you so much. Appreciate you.
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And I do agree with Laura Loomer that the Qataris, I think the best thing the Qataris could do, Qatar could do is come out full open and just say, hey, look, we've had a relationship with a Muslim brother in the past. We've stopped it. I mean, this is what the whole meeting in 2017, in May of 2017 was really to go to Riyadh and have an agreement, particularly among the Gulf Emirates, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates to make sure that there was an agreement, agreement to stop the financing of radical jihad groups, particularly in Europe and the United States and obviously in, in the, in the Arab nations too, because the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat to both the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and the in the royal family in United Arab Republic. So our United Arab Emirates, mbz big issue Abbott in Texas took the lead designating them a terrorist organization. With care General Mike Flynn about the strategic document just put out by the president.
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Okay. Welcome back, General Flynn. George and particularly so many new people have come to our movement, particularly in 2024. Whole new coalitions have come particularly to make America Health again. This show has been explosive in its growth. So there are many people, maybe not familiar, they know Mike Flynn today, but may not know the background of General Flynn. General, you were one of the great warriors working from a crystal in Afghanistan on the attack all the time, really took intel and really made it a force multiplier in combat in Afghanistan. Then you came back, you were head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, which I actually tell people is where the pipe hitters are versus CIA. And you were probably one of the most controversial. You got into with President Obama right off the bat. You were President Trump's adviser early on. I remember we got you a meeting, I think in August or September of 2015 to go up and advise the President and start talking about geopolitics and national security strategy. Then you were his first national security adviser and one of the reasons they came after you so hard was your war against the deep state. But a lot of it's focused on the fact that you knew the Muslim Brotherhood and radical jihad better than anybody. The situation in Qatar, I mean, I have no problem with people going there for a conference. The Qataris are clearly, you know, underwriting the development in Gaza, etc. But it is not lost to me, even if President Trump designated the Muslim Brotherhood. But, you know, because you work with me on this, we got no traction at all in the first term. Now President Trump's actually done it, but it's looking at Egypt, Jordan, Syria, when really Turkey and Qatar are the big issues. Should Qatar just come forward and have a complete, just, you know, open it up and explain what their relationship has been with the Muslim Brotherhood and radical groups in the past and show people today that you cannot question it, that they no longer support, finance or supply logistics to radical jihad. And I'm not talking about allowing the Taliban or allowing Hamas to be headquartered there and to do negotiations. I'm talking about something far deeper which is really logistical, financial support of radical jihad throughout the world. Sir.
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General Mike Flynn
Qatar is the foundation, Steve, of a large terrorist organization and network globally. And so one of the things that they're going to have to do, and Trump, Trump is the guy to do it, is to basically disavow themselves from the Muslim Brotherhood, which I, I don't believe that they'll ever do. The other thing, one of the, one of the pieces of, of Qatar is that they have the Al Jazeera network and Al Jazeera was always the mouthpiece for Al Qaeda, isis, you know, you name the organization and Al Jazeera continues to be the mouthpiece for him as, as well as many other left leaning European based outlets too. So the financial, the logistic, the command and control, all of the sort of military terminology that, that runs commands and basically provides intent and vision for a global network emanates right there in Qatar for a large swath of some of the problems that we're facing today. Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, the cooperation between, you know, if you get into the weeds about the different ideologies within the, within the Arab mind, right, Sunnah versus Shia, et cetera. But that is what Qatar provides. I mean, Qatar is whatever 650,000 people that sit on a trillion dollar budget, right? I mean, or more so it is a very powerful piece of geography.
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Steve Bannon
And they've infiltrated the American education system, whether it's completely public school, the largest, I mean, for a guy group, we've got to remember history here. They were within 72 hours of extinction in June of 20 when we got back from the, from that Riyadh meeting where they just threw down hard and said, we're not going to do this. UAE and the Saudis came within 72 hours of removing the royal family. And they took a lesson from that. We somehow have to get engaged with the West. My point is, if you really want to do it, and I know people are trying to work with them and say, hey, look, if you really want to do it, we got to stop playing games. President Trump, as you remember, Mike would say, no games, no games here. It does seem like at one level it might be a game and we have to have absolute, complete transparency on their. They told us no essentially in marches in May of 17. I think they need to be much more open and talk about these networks. And they've, and they disavowed involvement. There's no money. This whole thing with the American education system, this whole situation in Texas, which, as you know, I know you're getting involved, I'm involved. The situation in Florida, we just need to have, if they want to be a broker of peace and assist President Trump, they want to do something in Gaza, they can't be at the same time be underwriting terrorism in Europe and the United States. Sir.
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General Mike Flynn
Yeah, you know what, Steve? I don't mind what they do over there. I don't mind what they do in their country, whatever they want to do in their country. What I don't want is, I don't want them to do it inside of our country. I do not want their ideology and I do not want their, their money being poured into our undergraduate and graduate level programs here to the tune of billions of dollars a year to change a mindset, a cultural mindset in the United States of America. So if, you know, if Cutter do what you want to do, you know, all these other countries overseas, we have to deal with China because China is a, you know, is a, is a, is a big nation, right? It's a, we, we do a lot of trade with China. We have to deal with China. But I don't want the Chinese ideology here in America. I don't want their Marxist, communist ideology here in America. I don't want this, this, this Islamist ideology here in America. America has our own culture and our own way of our own constitutional system. We don't want Sharia law in this country. I mean, if Trump, if Trump can get that message across and then make the changes that are necessary here, Inside, because I know one of the things we wanted to talk a little bit about was the national security strategy, which I think is very externally focused. I mean, he's got some things where he talks about securing the border and economic, you know, freedom and some of the things that he had to talk about internally. But the national security strategy that the President just came out with and just signed off on is really a very globally focused strategy. And that's not what the American people want. The American people want what is best for America. And we have to stop this idea of what I call and what I wrote about here just recently in this long march through the institutions. So how has this country got the United States now talking about? How did we get to where we are? Steve, we got here because there is a long march of not only bureaucrats, but Marxists and neo Marxists and Marxism inside of our system of government, inside of our agencies, activities, departments, whatever, inside of our government that includes all branches of government, judiciary, legislative and executive branch. And that long march has been going on for 50 years or more. Here we are, we now have inside of our system. So we can talk about Qatar, but Trump, what he's gotta do is he's gotta stop this madness about allowing these. It's not just Qatar, it's China, and particularly China, because they're the big dog. It's all these overseas elements that breed and spew. Communism, that breed and spew Marxism, that breeds spew.
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Steve Bannon
Let me take it another way, just for a second, because first off, if Grayson, Mo, let's push out General Flynn wrote a very long, detailed analytical piece about the national security strategy. If Elizabeth and Mo and Grace can also push out President Trump's. It's 33 pages long. Everybody in the war room posse this weekend must read it totally free. We're going to put it up. You've got to read it, every page of it. And Mike Flynn's done an analysis. We're going to have Laura logo on next week. We got Captain Fennell. We're going to do a whole week of people coming on and giving different perspectives of it. And one level, it's absolutely amazing. But he does put Europe at the very end. And in Europe, it's one of the most brutal assessments of Europe in a reality check. He says, look, I don't know, in 20 years, we don't know if there's even going to be a civil. These NATO allies, if they're even going to be around and control their countries. You're seeing the potential for civilizational collapse. In Europe. I think one thing that struck me, and I think it struck you and others that are big supporters of President Trump, is that what's happened in Europe is very much happening here in the United States in a very, in a very, you know, early stage, and it must be stopped. It's a deep state. It's the Red Green Alliance, Neo Marxists with Islamists in the institutions of our government, in the educational institutions, in the corporations, in law enforcement, in intelligence. And that's the part that's not in the National Strategy memo. It doesn't really talk about the national strategy of the United States going forward in regards to this deep state takeover. Sir.
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General Mike Flynn
Yeah. If we were Alive in the 1500s and 1600s, Steve, we'd be having the same goddamn conversation, just from a different viewpoint, the way things existed back then. So here we are in the 21st century, and frankly, my, my sort of bombshell is the EU is, is totally gone. It is a. It is an organization that has lost sight of what its real purpose and goals were at the very beginning. So I think the EU needs to go away. The reshaping of the European continent is taking place before our very eyes. And there is a massive, massive split between the globalists and those that want nationalism in their own countries, those that want to protect their own sovereignty. Matt Boyle talked about the interview with the Greek, I think the foreign minister, he said, and you know how they're like, they love Donald Trump because Trump is fighting for national sovereignty. Trump is fighting for something that the European Union wants to get rid of. And so that's why I think the European Union is something that probably, you know, and again, these are big institutions. NATO is another institution. You know, he said Matt Whitaker was there at Qatar, right? I mean, why is Matt Whitaker at Qatar? I mean, what is he there to do? Get more money from Qatar. And NATO is another institution that was created as a defensive chartered institution with originally about 14 to 16 countries. Now it has close to 30 or 40. I mean, we have to relook everything in our relationships between the United States and Europe.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, hang on a second. We'll take a break. I think this, I think by putting it, by the way Europe comes up on page 29 of 33, it's got to be a wake up call for people in Europe. Understand that the American people under President Trump are no longer going to pick up the tab for your defense. He's actually said, we don't know who's going to be running these countries in 20 years. You're looking at Civilizational Implosion, Civilizational collapse. We're going to take a short commercial break. General Flynn's written this analytical piece. Also, got to ask you about our friend Pete Hegseth. They are coming from Pete Hexes like nobody's business. Pete Hex has got to hang in there because he's one of the most valuable cabinet members President Trump has. Short commercial break Back in the worm in a moment.
- [33:38]
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General Mike Flynn
Okay.
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General Mike Flynn
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, homework assignment is to, is to read the national security strategy. The national military strategy. Mike will be what in another 30 days they'll put out, the Pentagon will put out the Department of War. We'll put out, we'll take the overall strategy and then put out a military strategy around it. One of the biggest things is hemispheric defense. He goes out of his way to talk about hemispheric defense, particularly the Trump corollary to the Monroe Doctrine, which is full spectrum dominance in in Latin America. And I think he's seen from Argentina to Venezuela maybe some questions of what's happening in Brazil. But you're starting to see that overall net net. I know you got another piece coming out today. Is your biggest issue that it's a good strategy, good start for Trump. Be looking at all these hotspots in Eurasian land mass and a pivot back here to the hemisphere. But your concern is there's not enough focus on the deep state here and what you really have to do to secure. Because those are the guys coming after Trump. The worst, it ain't the Russians, it's definitely the CCP with their 100 here. But you, you got it. You got a, you got a deep state that is looking to remove Trump right after the midterms if they don't assassinate him first. And people, you got to have that on the table because they tried twice. General Flynn?
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General Mike Flynn
Yeah, a couple of things. Number one, the national security strategy that the President just signed off on, you know, it's very, it's focused more globally externally than it is internally. And I'll address some of that here in a second. I think it is a, it's a good forward facing document. It basically, it basically says to the world, America is ready to lead again. So from that standpoint, very good. I think that the issue about Europe that we talked about on the last segment is something that people need to pay very close attention to. Let's see if Trump actually follows through. I do think that one of the things that it falls short on is a lot of this ideological stuff that's going on here in the United States. Right? The ideological pressure, the media manipulation that we have, the idea of this Marxism and neo Marxism ideology that is definitely inside and has infiltrated into the institutions of our government. There's not enough discussion about how the President of the United States, in this national security strategy, which should be both foreign and domestic, has to deal with. You know, we have many, many compromised oversight systems as an example. We have a very, very complex election system and technologies, and people in this country are like, still going, what the hell's going on? Why do I care about Europe? Why do I care about the Middle East? I need to care about my country right here and whether or not we have a free and fair election. So one of the things that we did, and we actually wrote a national security strategy as part of an institute that I'm part of, the Gold Institute for International Strategy. We wrote one back last June, and I like to think that it drove some of what the White House has in this current document. And you mentioned the national defense strategy, which I know has been being worked in parallel, and it'll likely be out here in another week or two. Maybe it'll come out right after the, the holidays. So we have to pay very close attention to that. Something that I want to, I want to put a finger, you know, a fingertip on or poking a chest on with Matt Boyle and people that I hear say this a lot. Steve War is the norm in human history. Peace is the aberration. We have to figure out Trump and what Trump wants. He's a very, he's a, he's a historic guy. Like it, like him or not, this guy wants to stop wars. When you have these machines that require submission by the American people called the military industrial complex, the intelligence community complex, you know, NATO is another military industrial complex. You got to have a boogeyman. You know, you got to have Russia out there. I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of things going on right now globally that we can, we can basically stop or, you know, shut down to a, to a period for a period of time and say, okay, what is it that we want to do? Trump. I really firmly believe that if Trump doesn't refocus, and I mean refocus in a very, very determined way right here at home in the next couple of months, if not the next year, we're going to lose the midterm elections. And Katie, bar the door. Now we're in a place where, and that's why I wrote this two part series. Part of it is already published out there. I'm gonna, I'm gonna push another one out here today. I mean, we have to, we have to regain who we are as a nation, Steve. And that's what you've been harping on all the time. These people, these organizations, these structures, these big structures, they want, you know, they want us to, they want to drive us into submission. America. And to your audience, Steve, and directly to your audience, we are at an inflection point in history. If Donald J. Trump does not understand that and does not get this right, we're screwed. And we will move in on a different path towards what these Marxists want us to move towards. And this axis of alliance, they call it the red green alliance. I call it the axis of resistance. The main body is right here in the United States of America inside of our government.
- [42:37]
Steve Bannon
I think, I do think he understands it. I think people around him have got to take more action on this. We try to do this every day and highlight it. It's look watching at the birth of the nation, winning the revolution, getting our independence, and the birth of nations, which were all three separate things inexhaustibly linked. Lincoln at the rebirth of the nation, and Trump at the, at the reclamation of the nation, reclaiming its greatness. It is an inflection point. I think he does understand that. That's why he's a world historical figure. But all of us have Got to pile in here. And where we see it drifting a little bit, we got to say, hey, maybe we need to. Maybe we need a course correction right now. Our advice, I know your advice to President Trump. You can't go too hard on the deep state. You just can't. And we're going to have Julie Kelly up here next about some of the stuff's going on at DOJ right now. Understand, Pam, and these guys are overwhelmed. Cash is overwhelmed. It's about this pipe bomber. Let me play. I want to do one thing where we're here talking about the deep state. We got a clip on Pete Hexith, and I want to make a statement that you can tell when somebody's effective, when the deep state comes after him. Pete Hegseth. There's an onslaught about Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, that I've only seen in my involvement in politics. I don't know, last 15, 20 years is against Mike Flynn. Let's go ahead and play it. And then, General Flynn, I want your, I want your advice on this.
- [43:53]
Stephen K. Bannon
Pete Hegseth needs to go now. You wrote, pete Hexif, however, was elected by no one. He's an unprofessional and sometimes unstable appointee who does not seem to comprehend the seriousness of the office office he occupies, does not respect the senior officers who serve this country, and does not seem to care at all about the people of the US Military, except that he's worried that too many of them are fat or women. Hegseth is unqualified and incompetent, and he should have been fired months ago, end quote. Arguably, he should have never been put in the job. And there were people who had reservations and misgivings then who seemed to sort of overlook them and say, well, you know what? We're going to give this one to Trump. He's turning out to be not just a danger, but deadly. Hegseth was the most dangerous and incompetent of all of the dangerous and incompetent appointees. And, you know, the list goes on. Not just Patel and.
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Gnome, but Kennedy and Gabbard and so many others. I mean, this really is just a clown car.
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Steve Bannon
I think that's Nichols, that he actually was an instructor at the Naval War College. I do not understand why Milley has not been recalled to active duty, why Kelly has not been recalled to activity court martials. And I don't understand why this guy's sucking down a pension from the US Government. Another very dangerous guy, totally out of line. General Flynn, your thoughts and I tell you, last night we were going to cut a coal open, but I said, let's push the coal open, because virtually all last night on MSNBC and CNN is just a complete beatdown on the Secretary of War. Pete Hegseth, your thoughts, sir?
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General Mike Flynn
Yeah. First of all, Pete Hegseth, I think, is doing an extraordinary job. He's being incredibly transparent. He's bringing a level of leadership, energy, intellect, and transparency to the Department of War. Number one, he's got a great relationship with President Trump, which is really critical. He's got a great relationship with Tulsi Gabbard, which is really critical. 70% of the US intelligence community is in the Department of War. I think one of the things that Pete Hegset needs to do is I think he does need to look internal, and I think that some of the folks around him know what I'm talking about. You know, he needs to look internal across the whole of the department for those subversives that do exist there and remove them. Remove them very quickly. And there are not many, but there are a few. And some, you know, dress like they're on your team. So.
- [46:17]
Don'T pay attention to the media. You know, get out there and keep doing what you're doing. The fact that when Pete Hegstad stood up for Mitch Bradley, who I've known for a long, long time, and I'm part of the development. Steve, you mentioned me at the very beginning, I'm part of the development of what's called. It takes a network to defeat a network. Right. This restructuring of how we do targeting. Mitch Bradley was a commander when we were first retooling, how we need to fight our enemies, no matter where they are, whether they're here domestically or whether they're overseas. So, Peter, Pete, exit, I think, is doing all the right things. I do think that, that there are some internal things that he's got to look at from the types of people that he has around him. Disregard this noise from the left. They will. They will be brutal. One of the things for my message for President Donald J. Trump is you need to. You need to continue to have his back, as I know that you do, and let Pete do the things that you asked him to do, which is to bring energy, leadership, you know, a, a vision and a transparency and a sort of a regrouping of what we need in the Department of War now, because I'm going to tell you, when you can't have recruiting, you can't have the kinds of things that we have in our country right now that are all those numbers are looking pretty good. So screw these people from whatever these organizations are and these media outlets are. They're going to do that all the time. You know, who the hell are they to. To talk about what, what you know is right or not for this country. The American people voted for, for one guy, President Donald J. Trump. This is the team he put into place and we need to stand behind them. And I will tell you, the majority, the majority of the American people stand behind. Pete Hegseth.
- [47:56]
Steve Bannon
General Flynn, I haven't had a chance to ask you this, but the building is very big and complicated institution to manage. You spent your entire life frontline as a warrior, then you came back head of D.I. if the president was asking, he's got these special envoys, you know, like Sergio's ambassador, India, but special envoy to the Central Asian Eurasian landmass. If the President asked you to, hey, go over, come back as some sort of special assistant or some, some kind of senior position to help Pete Hexseth over in the War Department, would you be open to that?
- [48:30]
General Mike Flynn
Yeah, 100%. 100%. And I, and I do that anyway. But yeah, I would, you know, sort of roving ambassador or whatever the hell the President needs at this point in time. We're almost a year into his administration. We're seeing the challenges that are coming that are going to be hitting him left and right. Trump wants to be the peacetime president and he is. He's done so much to stop many of these fights around the world.
- [48:57]
Steve Bannon
Could he have a better, could he have a better selection as a pipe hitter to take on the deep state than Mike Flynn? Could you name one?
- [49:05]
General Mike Flynn
Not one, sir. Not one. No, no, Steve. Yeah. I mean if, if he, if he put me in that role, Steve, they would. Their pants. Excuse my Irish.
- [49:17]
Steve Bannon
General Mike Flynn. Where do people go? You're putting out the second analytical piece this afternoon. I want everybody to read it over the weekend. Where do folks go? Where they go to get all your content? You got a couple films up Twitter, all of it, sir. Where they go, they can go to.
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General Mike Flynn
Generalflinn.Com generalfin.com or on X. I'm @gen Flynn G E N Flynn and, and I'll post this second part of this two part series here today. And people need to read this, Steve. They need to read it because this is exactly what has happened to our country. And I put it, I lay out, I lay out six solutions in part two. This is part one that you're looking at, folks. I lay out six solutions, you know, that range from everything from our cultivating the nuclear family, redesigning our education system.
- [50:03]
Getting us off the welfare state that Lyndon Bings Johnson created. I mean, there's some really doable solutions that our country can take on. President Trump is the guy to do it and in many cases he's starting to do it. He needs to coalesce around that. And that is the America first attitude in me.
- [50:22]
Steve Bannon
STEVE I've got the, I've got, I've actually thought of your title as you've been talking, a special envoy to the deep State. General Mike Flynn. That would, that would set him, that would set him off. That would give MSMEC a couple of days of programming, would it not, sir? MIKE flynn, General, thank you so much. We're going to push it out and share today before multipliers on your analytical piece.
- [50:45]
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War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Steve Bannon
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Brett Jensen
Sir well, first, thanks for having me, Steve. As you said, I'm a longtime War Room Posse member and you know, there's a philosophy on war room next man up. And.
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President Trump needs real fighters, people from the real world, not people in D.C. looking to pad their resumes to find their next job, you know, post Trump, but people that are ready to demand the ramparts to fight and to fight now. And you know, this, this isn't something that I was ever looking to do. Running for elected office is, is not something that I'm, you know, have kind of engineered my life around. I was, I was very successful and very happy in private life. But, you know, for such a time as this, and the time is now.
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Steve Bannon
Why, why the you've never run for any elective office. You're doing this. Why did you target the House? What, what do you think you can accomplish for MAGA America First President Trump and the Republic in the House of Representatives?
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Brett Jensen
Sir well, one of the things that's very frustrating for those of us out in the real world is how when it matters, there's nobody in the House or there aren't enough people in the House, I should say, that will stand up and fight and will carry the America's first forward agenda forward. One of the other issues that's very important to me is defending capitalism. And there's too many people in government that don't understand the private sector. They don't understand the power of capitalism. They don't understand its connection to freedom and to what made America great. And you know, starting from our founding, from the Virginia plan under James Madison, revenue starts in the House. Understanding, you know, budgeting and taxation, it starts in the House of Representatives.
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Steve Bannon
Do we have capitalism as a country? I know we have corporatism, particularly the concentration of power. You saw the Netflix deal yesterday. We have, you know, whether it's big Pharma or the distribution of pharmaceuticals in the drug industry, you know, pharmaceutical industry, the drugstore stores, you've got, whether it's big media, the lords of easy money on Wall street, the tech bros out in Silicon Valley, artificial intelligence. Everywhere you look, the medical profession, you've got these massive organizations that are merging together and becoming kind of co partners with, with, with big government. So you kind of have state capitalism. How do you, how do you intend to, to give access to American citizens to not just free market capitalism, but entrepreneurial capitalism in the House of Representatives, Sir?
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Brett Jensen
Well, I think that's a great question, Steve. And one of the things that is important that I think is not discussed enough is the financialization of the American economy in the modern era. So much of what the government does and what these big corporations do, you know, run through the big banks and run through the investment banks on Wall street and, you know, you spent time there, you understand what it's like, you know, going all the way back to the end of the 90s, you know, when we allowed the commercial banks and the investment banks to become behemoths that then became, you know, too big to fail as we use. I mean, there should be no concept of too big to fail in a true free market capitalist economy. And in capitalism, as far as I'm concerned, is entrepreneurship. It's, it's the ability for people to start businesses and build lives around those. Businesses have something to pass on to their children and to build, you know, lives for other people that doesn't come from gigantic companies merging with each other. It's I, I wish Nvidia all the success in the world, but the share price of Nvidia is not what matters to the people. Shopping at the H E B grocery store in Magnolia, Texas, you know, they're, they own small businesses. They're plumbers, they're carpenters. They're, you know, own landscaping companies and small businesses in the oil field. And that's what matters.
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Steve Bannon
So you're going to be supporter of the small business. Entrepreneurial finance, entrepreneurial capitalism. Last question. You seem like a great guy. People speak very highly of you and you've supported some great causes and you've done, you've been a fan of the show for a long time. You've done all the kind of work behind the scenes that people want. Are you tough enough? You seem like a great guy. You're going into a snake pit. You're down in Houston. And of course, the, the, the, the Republican apparatus in the imperial capital of Washington is very tough. In Texas tough, too. Are you tough enough? We got about a minute. Are you tough enough to win the, this seat and be effective, sir?
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Brett Jensen
I am, Steve. We're going to win this seat and we're going to take the fight to him. I am ready and I have spent my life getting up in their grill, as you would say, And I have no reason to be doing this other than to fight. And this is very much a spiritual war. And I have, I feel call to this and I'm going back there for no other reason than to fight. So if I'm not prepared to fight, why would I be doing it? Because there's no benefit to me. I'm going to fight for all of us and what we believe in.
- [62:13]
Steve Bannon
Hang on. I want you to give your social media other side. Short commercial break. Julie Kelly's going to join us.
- [62:20]
Rabbi Pesach Walecki is also going to join us from Jerusalem with some discussion, discussion about what's happening in the peace deal with Israel, in Hamas. All of that to come next hour in the world. Stick around.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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