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Foreign. Here in the war room. It's Thursday, Wednesday, the 24th of December, year of war, 2025. We're going to go live to Bethlehem, Jason Jones. Jason, could you ask the father I'd like to what was Bethlehem like at the time of the birth of Christ and, and how's it developed over time? I mean, these stunning images we have of people starting to gather and getting ready for the midnight mass in the celebration of Christ's birth. You've got a mosque there. Can you just walk us back? If you guys were there 2000, 25 years ago, what would it be like and what's the evolution of it over time? Jason Jones, the floor is yours.
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But to enrich the experience now, we now have the Muslim call for prayer for you is background music for this question. So Father Steve Bannon asked, you've been here for 2,000 years, by the way. Steve, when he said that they were the first church, I challenged him with an arm wrestling match. Didn't realize he was actually the parish priest for the Church of the Nativity. So I've just added a lot of time to Purgatory. But Steve wants to know what was the community like here 2000 years ago when the Holy family was over our left shoulder, my left shoulder, your right shoulder.
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Okay. We're having a little bit of technical problem. There's, as you can imagine, there's a lot of pull on the, on the Internet there. That beautiful shot. We're on a roof overlooking Manger Square. And of course, we've got the priest, one of the priests that are the priest, orthodox priest for the Church of the Nativity. As soon as we get the shot, reset, we're going to go back to it. Let's go to, let's go to the Vatican and, and our own Ben Harnwell. Ben, it always, you know, we do the, our Christmas season specials and we have this beautiful music. You have the beautiful images. Somehow I think a lot of that gets lost during the year that people don't understand the beautiful art and architecture and music. And of course, that's not to the religious spirit of things, but it's driven that creative spirit is driven by the religious spirit.
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BEN HARNWELL that's right, Steven. In fact, I could follow off your earlier question about how the difference of Christmas is approached in terms of atmosphere and culture between Rome and then London and Paris. And that's really the point of it. I think here there is still a residue left. In Italy, it's a residue, but it's still left like Christmas is fundamentally a religious festival, whereas in England it's, it's, it's wholly a sentimental thing, a cultural stroke sentimental thing. There's no focus on Jesus Christ. There's no focus on his nativity. There's no focus on the hope and joy that Christ's birth brings to the world. It's, it's just a purely pagan festival of indulgence in the UK and one of the reasons, you know, one of the reasons is that's because of the absolute implosion of the Church of England, the Anglican Communion, the head of the the lead church of the Anglican Communion. Over the last century. It's been it's been secularized internally and now is acting as a secularizing force across wider British society. Don't forget that in the we, unlike the United States, in England, we do have an established church. It you have bishops that automatically, by virtue of being bishops of certain diocese, have seats in the legislature, in the House of Lords, automatically. That is having an established church is and it's been a secularizing force. That that is why, Steve, many of us me, you many of us are trying our best from the platform that the Holy Spirit has given us to stop the Catholic Church walking in the same secularizing direction because we don't want sort of Italy, for example, to follow the UK France, Belgium, the Netherlands. You know, you can list the European countries where the overwhelming religious presence in those countries is Islam. That's, that's the supernatural force that is that is followed in those countries. And Christianity is sidelined. Now, if you come back to later on this, because I know we're going to talk about the influence that LEO the the 14th is having on the church, especially compared but, but hang on.
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But hang on before we go there. Before, hang on before we go there, so much of the beautiful music that we're going to play today and I've played and we play over tomorrow tomorrow, we always do the war room always does the Combat History of Christmas to show you American patriots and American heroes that actually were in horrific wars from the Revolutionary War, the Civil war, World War II, Korea. So much of the traditions we have in the United States really come from Victorian England. And if you look at Victorian England, I would argue that leading up to World War I, where it all kind of got destroyed in the trenches of the Western Front, but kind of that Victorian muscular Christianity of the Church of England as far as missionary work goes, because they had a, they had a mission and a purpose for evangelization throughout the world. How did we go from a Victorian church that gave us many of the customs and traditions of the religious nature, but also what we think of the historical Christmas, non religious nature of Christmas? How did we go from that basically in the late 19th century to modern UK today with the Church of England being completely secularized? In fact, every day I get up, when I read, when I go and do my religious news, one after the other more bizarre news comes from the Church of England. How did that happen.
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Steve? But I would answer it by saying if you showed the Church of England in the 1800s to the Protestant martyrs of the Reformation, they would be horrified because they would say this is not a Christian church whatsoever. The thing is, the reason why your Christian has sense, has moral force is because where we are today compared to the Victorian Victorian era is even more of a collapse. I would say that 1800 England, Steve, was already well on the way. You had a sense of piety and a Christian morality. But here's the point. You can't nourish that if the supernatural faith that is the foundation for that morality disappears. So this is fundamentally that. I would suggest a problem with the Enlightenment itself is that it tries to arrive at the same moral foundation that Christianity provided, but without the supernatural framework for was a false attempt, I think, to arrive at morality using reason alone. And it doesn't work. But that's why God fundamentally is the ultimate arbiter, as he should be. And the reason why I, you know, I. When. When did. Was it. When did Gerard Manley Hopkins, who referred to the receding rule, the tide going out. And that's the sense of religious faith in England. That was the Victorian era, right. The issue is, yes, since, since like for 405 since the Reformation, really the sense of super. The supernatural origin of Christianity has been like a spring winding down. And what we see today is when the spring is totally, totally expanded, that has nothing left to give. If you want to return to a sense Christian morality, then and that's not a sense of just, that's not, I'm not talking about judgmentalism. I'm talking about the morality that arises out of Christian ethics. You need to have, you need to nurture the supernatural belief that Jesus Christ is God who was born incarnate for the salvation of man at the bottom of it. Because if you don't have that, then Christian sentiment and Christian morality isn't worth anything. And that's what you see today. We're no longer a post Christian west, we're pre Islamic west and that's what we're trying to stop.
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Wow. Hang on to that. Ben. We're going to come back to you at the Vatican. Powerful folks. This is the reason we're doing this event. Down on the 9th of January. We'll have more details about 9 9th of January in Texas. Ben Harwell, it's not people are worried or complaining that we're in a post Christian era. He's saying, no, no, no, you've missed the point. We're well beyond post Christian in Europe, in Western Europe. You're pre Islamic as being the foundational element of that civilization. Ben Harwell's at the Vatican. Jason Jones, we're going to try to get issue there at Bethlehem. He's got some amazing guests. We're gonna get to all of it. We got music of the season and some amazing photography both at the Vatican and at St. Peter's Square and at Manger Square. Short commercial break. We're gonna be back in the warm in just a.
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In the Morning and what was in.
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The ship so free on Christmas Day.
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On Christmas Day and what was in.
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The ship so free on Christmas Day in the morning?
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Welcome back to our coverage. I think we figured out our technical issue in Bethlehem. We're going to go to Jason Jones. Jason, here's I think what the audience would like to know is since our guest is the priest that's head of the Church of the Nativity, can you walk us through what Bethlehem was like at the Time of the birth of Christ when a very pregnant Mary showed up with. With Joseph looking for a place to stay. And the evolution of it as we see today. You've got a square with pilgrims and tourists coming to witness this tonight. You've also got a mosque and in the church in Nativity, all of it. So just take your time and walk us through this.
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All right, thank you, Steve. So Father Issa, Steve would like to know and the audience would like to know what was it like when the holy family, when the Blessed Mother and Joseph walked down that little road and found no room at the inn. What was Bethlehem like then and how did it evolve into what it is today with the pilgrims, the church, the mosque over my shoulder. So it's. It's the history of the living stones of the church.
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Right? Exactly. So when Mary and Joseph came from Nazareth to Bethlehem, it was an old house. Actually. It was barely places that you can see like houses, small houses. And it's not actually you can live in it. So they found no place as to give birth in it. So they found just in a place which is stable for animals. And that's why they went inside there. But it has a reason for that. So as to God born in a place to be with the poverty people and to simplicity, to live with simplicity. And that's why the door of the Church of Nativity called humble door. So when we bow inside as to go inside for the place for the King of the kings was born in a place like in a stable of animals.
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And all the other religions they were pharaohs and emperors.
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That's right.
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He could born in.
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And here's the King of Kings born in a stable.
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Exactly. And that's the meaning of that. It's just to live as a simplicity as it is to live with love and peace. Because from nothing that we can be something. So it's in the Bible says and you Bethlehem will not be small. So and Bethlehem was a small town and now we can see it actually all the eyes of all of the world looks in this. This small city of Bethlehem and that's where Jesus was born as to give this love and peace. And so if we can say like now it's same Bethlehem, we can see all the houses, we can see the cave where Jesus was born. And we can see the simplicity, people and hospitality of Bethlehem that they're still living and continue the message of peace and love until now.
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You know, one of the things, Father, that I've noticed in my time working with the Palestinians, whether it's the church in Gaza or here in the west bank is there is this magnanimity, there's this charity, this forgiveness. And I've prayed about it and what is the source of it. And I thought as Catholics, our theology tells us that grace builds upon our nature. And I. And it dawned on me that grace has been building upon the nature of this Christian community for 2,000 years.
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That's right. And that's why we still actually, we are the living stones. I called the Christians community in Bethlehem the living stones, not the church. The church may be 2000 years still exist, but the church doesn't mean anything with the faithful people, the Christians who keep it alive, you know, with the prayers every day to keep these services and liturgy and helping people coming from all over the world to visit this place and also actually to give blessing and grace from it.
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You know, I was an atheist until my late 20s. And when I would hear Christians talk about the good news, the Gospel, I thought, that's an awful strange expression, good news. But when you look back, what good news is it? That the Caesar is not God, the Pharaoh is not God, but I, I could be a humble peasant, I can be a slave, but I am made in the image of God.
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That's right, God, an image of God. That's why we are daily services in the church where Jesus was born. Exactly in the spot where the light shines. All over the world. We just celebrate masses every day for Christian like Orthodox Catholics and Armenian. And we continue to celebrate this because in Bethlehem it's almost like Christians and Muslims living together. And we are united in Bethlehem as one. Like when you see, like last two weeks ago when we lit the Christmas tree, all people together were Christians, Muslims from different backgrounds. They were celebrating Christmas and loving us to see like the love charity of people, the happiness of them. Like after two years, you know, no celebration, no festivities. It's just amazing to find this Bethlehem again, back again to life.
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Can I ask you about St. Joseph? You look at St. Joseph, it's kind of quiet, kind of hidden always. But I look to him as what a man should be. He had calloused hands. He was a cow. See, if you talk about muscular Christianity and I think of St. Joseph, he was muscular, but he had calloused hands. He was a carpenter, he was amiable, he was kind, he was gentle. Can you tell us about St. Joseph?
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St. Joseph is the best because he took care of Mary when he knew that the one that she's holding in her like wound is Jesus Christ. So he never Actually know this because he was suspicious about it. But after this, when Gabriel told him that you have to take care of her because this is from God, and that's why he continued actually to take care of this woman that he never actually know before. But this was actually the.
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And it was scandalous.
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Exactly.
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And embarrassing.
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Embarrassing.
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Embarrassing, for sure. But this is deep in your heart, like you think when God just put things, like to think wisely, with love, with respect. And this is how he dealed with this.
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People must have been looking at him, laughing at him, mocking him.
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That's for sure. This is what people actually usually do when you are in the right place and you're doing the best thing. So that's why we have, as Christians or as a young man, to have to look at St. Joseph, how he dealt with this issue and how he continued because he knew he has a vision.
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Jason.
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And this vision, actually.
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Yes, Jason, What Father just said, I think is kind of shocking to an American audience because we followed your work for years. And where we've seen throughout the world is where Islam has helped to eradicate the church, the desert church in the Middle East. Why is it that there seems to be cooperation in Bethlehem, where throughout the rest of the world there's not just cooperation, there's actually conflict, whether it's in Western Europe or now in the United States. Sir.
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Yeah, yeah, sure. Father Steve's question was it's. It's surprising to a lot of American audiences to hear that Muslims and Christians, Bethlehemites get along together. You're Greek Orthodox. The Greeks were for so many 650 years wanted to control the Ottomans and. But today in the world, we see political Islam. Islamist extremism is a horrible threat to the Christianity in Nigeria. 9 out of 10 martyrs this year will be in Nigeria. Yes. So can you help us explain the dynamic in history between Islam and Christianity and. And then maybe what's the difference or similarities with Christians and Muslims together in Bethlehem?
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Like in Bethlehem, since I was born, actually, I can tell that we live Christians and Muslims together side by side. As you can see backgrounds like the mosque in front of the church. And which is meaning that we are actually together. We living in Bethlehem, that's just neighbors. And we actually share the life of Bethlehem. People here the same together. Like in the church, we have people like police helping us. They are Muslims and they are taking care of this church. They are security. And we have also. And many people, we are actually grow up with them, neighbors side by side and with the same difficulties, the same problems and with the same happiness. So as I said before, when we lit the Christmas tree, it was many people from Muslims backgrounds and they were actually celebrating with us. They were happy and we actually joined together like during Easter time, during Ramadan and during Christmas time. We share together, we greet each others in these feasts and we are here, one family. This is only in Bethlehem because, you know, it's just where Jesus was born.
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And I have to say I was shocked last Christmas, Steve, when I was the only person not from Bethlehem here. But there were so many Muslim pilgrims in the Church of the Nativity. Is this something that's normal?
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Yes, it's normal. Many people actually during these two years, we don't, we didn't have any kind of visitors or pilgrims. Only we have Muslims who coming from all the Muslims area around. They were coming, visiting the church with respect. They light a candle for peace. And this is what means a lot for us as Christians to see Muslims coming and respecting the place where Jesus was born. And they are actually happy about us.
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For 750 years, the Orthodox Church was living within the Caliphate, the Ottoman Caliphate. But we've seen just in the past two decades, with the rise of isis, for example, in Iraq and Syria, the decimation of Christian communities. We've seen this in Nigeria. Can you help us understand? Yes.
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Jason, hang on. Jason, hang on one second. We're gonna take a break. I want to get the full answer on that when we come back to Bethlehem.
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Sure.
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Guys, just hang on. We'll be right back. Ben Harnwell's at St. Petersburg to go back to Ben. Also leave you with some great music on the war rooms Christmas special. President Trump has just announced that he's going to do something at 3pm this afternoon, Eastern Standard Time or later. Live from Mar Lago. Actually the war real America's voice will be there with a camera. There'll be more updates we'll put on social media, but plan on around 3 o' clock or thereafter. A special event at Mar Lago with the President United States shortly. Marshall, bro.
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His wings. You.
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Welcome back. Taj Gill's with me. Taj, real quickly, you've spent the better part of a couple of decades of your life trying to defend people over in the hellhole of Iraq and Afghanistan and our audience. For all the veterans that did that, you can't thank these folks enough for what they did, unbeknownst to them. Maybe not a government that wasn't totally straightforward with people, but for the patriots, you and your generation and everyone, our nation has nothing but thanks and gratitude. And the folks there that you defended, I know, too. We're going to need a now you went from a gunman to a barista. Barista. Real quickly, where do people go to get some great coffee today? Because I need, I need a, I need a refill as soon as the show's over.
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Yeah, you just go to Warpath Coffee.
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And as always, use promo code war room and it's 25% off your entire order right now. And we got free shipping on orders over $85.
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So Warpath Coffee promo code war room.
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And you got 25% off and just go on their, on the website, read the reviews, Have a merry, merry Christmas, T. Gill. Have a merry Christmas, brother. I think you're, see, you're going to join me for the Saturday show. So thank you so much. I appreciate you.
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Thank you, Steve.
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I appreciate it.
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Merry Christmas.
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Get some great coffee. Best, best Merry Christmas, you and the family, that lovely family of yours. Sixteen tours over in the Middle east, in Iraq and Afghanistan. Taj. And there's so many guys like Taj. 3:00 clock today, Real America's Voice are going to be back at Mar A Lago, President Trump, they're talking about doing something very special for Christmas. We're gonna have our own correspondent there. I think we're the pool feed today. So make sure that you hang around the rim today and find out what the president's doing later this afternoon. Tomorrow we have our traditional, I think it's the 15th year that Patrick K. Donnell and I have done this. We did a Breitbart radio news over at Sirius XM for so many years. And now at the War Room for what, the past six or so, the combat history of Christmas, talking about the tage gills of the world, whether in the revolution, Civil war, World War II, Korea specific stories. Don't miss it. It's one of my favorite shows of the year. Jason, we are pressed for time, but I want to hear that, that question you teed up to the pastor of the church Nativity is, is one I think our audience wants to hear. So can you ask it again and let's get a, let's get an answer.
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Yeah. And I want to thank taste you and my son fought ISIS in Iraq and Syria nose to nose and. But Father, I want to go back to the question. We saw your community, Orthodox community survive for 750 years under the Ottoman caliphate. But just in the past two decades we've seen the decimation of the Christian communities of Iraq and Syria. Can you help us understand the nature of political Islam, the challenges that we face now as a church with the political Islam?
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It's good questions actually because you know, survived Christians communities, especially the Orthodox one from the Ottoman time and past, not just only Ottoman crusaders times, British times and many happens in like the Holy Land, but still Christians communities still exist and they're rooted in the land because of the help of the, you know, patriarchate Jerusalem. We know about the church itself of the people who are around us to help and to maybe to or maybe you command the faith of their people. The Christians community still resist in their rooted in the land. But maybe some of them like Christians lived like with fear, you know, with no hope, with. They need freedom, they need justice, they need dignity. And some of them actually even Palestinian Christians community, they have left this, this place because of have no freedom, no dignity, no justice. And that's why in many Christians communities, even in Iraq or Syria or any place they're leaving immigrations and it depends on how they live under.
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H
We see today in Syria the brutalization of the Christian communities in India Hindu nationalism. Just yesterday Christians were attacked. 300 churches were burned down in one state alone. Steve, this year in India so we see Hindu nationalism, we see the CCP communist ideology and then political Islam. We see settlers attacking Christian communities here in tbe. Only 800 Christians left in Gaza.
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G
That's right. And we talking about this and still actually people are Christians are immigration immigrating and still leaving Syria, Iraq and even Palestine. Even in Bethlehem many people left this because of these difficulties living under difficult occupation or difficult situations.
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H
Is it important for Christians to stay in the Holy Land?
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G
For sure. I call them the living stones. And we need to continue our rooted like in Bethlehem. And we could continue because Bethlehem without the Christians means nothing. We need them to continue living in there and call them living stones. And we need. That's why it's my vision, my role in Bethlehem. As a young priest from the Nativity Church I always tell people to stay and try to protect them. I try to help them, educate them as to stay and especially the young one, because we need them here.
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H
Oftentimes, Father, you'll hear Christians in the United States say, oh, it's so dangerous. Why don't they just leave? What would you say to that?
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G
We would never leave. Actually, I lived in America and they see how America is and I know we could live in freedom and in a good life, but we refuse because we need. Our land is different. Our land here in Bethlehem especially, everything begins from Christianity, began from Bethlehem where Jesus was born to give this peace and love. And that's why our rooted in this place is important for Christianity to continue into ages and ages.
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H
What? Kids, if you could talk to Ambassador Mike Huckabee, what would you say to him on what the United States can do to preserve the Christian communities here in Bethlehem, in Teba, in Gaza?
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G
Yes, actually we tell them we need acts. We need something to do to keep and protect the Christians community in Bethlehem and in all Holy Land and Palestinian areas. And we have many Christians, they're willing to leave, but we need them to stay here because I call them the living stones. So we need an act. We need support. Maybe don't mean support like support with any political things that we can actually just keep them staying in Bethlehem, staying in their lands and not to leave.
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H
Steve?
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D
Yeah, Jason, hang on for one second. I got to go over the Vatican and maybe another time we'll get my idea that since there's essentially going to be a Palestinian state in Gaza with Qatar as the financier and the Turks as the, as incredible as that sound, the Turks as a security guarantee. Since you have a two state solution, my recommendation we go to a three state solution. One of those states would be a Christian state which takes the Christian quarter of Jerusalem all the way to Bethlehem. But that's a topic for a different another day, maybe too controversial for Christmas Eve. Stay right there. I'm gonna go to the Vatican real quickly. Let's get through Christmas. Okay, Ben Harnwell, very big on the world stage tonight. The Pope Leo is going to have his first midnight Mass. Why is this important to him? And particularly as the, the hardcore trad Catholics that as we kind of forecasted when we're the only people in the world that said Prevost was going to be selected as pope because of not so much the American, the not so much the Americanists, but the, the access that he could have to the money. Why is tonight big for him?
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A
Well, because the whole world, we're Watching to see what he says. And he knows that, and they know that. So these words both in his mass this evening at the Christmas mat at 10pm local time here, Rome time, but also his blessing tomorrow midday at noon, the order be and it or be to the church and to the world, to the city in the world, excuse me. Both of those are events in which he will make, in a very subtle way, or not so subtle way, some of his priorities clearly known. These were big opportunities that his late unlamented predecessor, Pope Francis, always used to push his favorite political project, for example, his support of the. The invasion in. In first place. We'll look at Leo, we'll see what he says. We'll no doubt digest it next week. Steve, I'll say this, though. You might not get the full frontal Marxism of Pope Francis, but it's not, you're not going to get pure Milton Friedman either. He's going to be doing what he always does in his subtler way, which is continuing the revolution of Bergoglio, of Pope Francis, but in a way that it beds down amongst the church rather than generating opposition and rebellion, which was what Francis was generating, simply because Francis was crazy, pathologically crazy, and he couldn't help rub people up the wrong way, even his own natural supporters. He just rubbed everyone up and there was a huge global sigh of relief when he died. Leo is a more intelligent, more subtle person. I say this constantly, therefore more dangerous. So he's gonna, he'll use his opportunity. There'll be obviously the standard Christian bromide. They're the standard Christian platitudes, obviously, because it's Christmas. But mixed amongst that, there'll be the political message too, the secular political message too, of which the institutional Catholic Church is handmaiden.
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D
Hang on. Being the war room, we had to go war room in this block.
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G
Both.
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D
In Bethlehem and in Vatican Ben. We're gonna have. We have the last block. We're gonna take a break, play some great music and we're gonna come back. We really appreciate you doing this today. I know it's inclement weather down there, we couldn't get the shots we want, but once again, Ben Harnwell always delivers with brilliant commentary. Short commercial break here in the warm. Wanna thank Birch Gold for being our sponsor. Take the. Take your phone abandoned 989-898. Get access to. To the ultimate gold for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. So music takes us out.
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A
Sam lo.
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D
Okay, welcome back. The German version of Silent Night. Let's go to Ben Harnwell. Ben, thank you for being out there at the inclement weather every the Catholics. I guess we'll be watching the Pope later today. Where can we get your commentary over the weekend?
- [56:59]
A
Ben please my social media platform of choice getter where in the fully obviously the Christmas spirit, certainly the warm spirit. There's a full on throwdown against inverted Thomas Pope Leo that I posted today from a few words I gave to the observer newspaper Steve which is effectively the the Guardians sisters paper on Sundays. So if you were thinking I'd be becoming all beta male and all peace and love this Christmas spirit. Absolutely not. Throw down right in Pope Leo's face because he's pushing the invasion point obviously. And the war in Mustang. Step up to resist Steve. Get at Harnwell my surname. You'll see all my gratuitous provocations there. Let me take this moment to wish you the war in posse Real America's voice. A very merry Christmas. The birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. May the spirit of God be with you all and see you after Christmas.
- [58:04]
D
God bless Ben Harwell. Merry Christmas. The war room wouldn't be. Wouldn't be the war room without you sir. Thank you so much. Head of our international bureau in Rome, Ben Harnwell.
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A
Thank you sir.
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D
Appreciate it.
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A
Thanks Steve. God bless Jason.
- [58:17]
D
You've done so much incredible work for the persecuted Christians throughout the world and vulnerable people overall not just Christians. I know you've got a guest. We got a couple of minutes tell us what you got and then I want everybody to go to your site. Sir.
- [58:32]
H
Yeah Steve. Well thank you very much. Vulnerablepeopleproject.com is our website vulnerablepeopleproject.com and or protect Holy Land Christians. We provide it as a Christmas present. Every Christian and family, every Christian family in Gaza has received a pop up home to keep them warm but we also need to get them firewood. So we'd love your help with that. This is the great Elise Christian activist here in Bethlehem in Betsahor, and she is the biggest Steve Bannon and Donald Trump President Trump fan.
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A
Hi, Steve, It's a privilege to be.
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C
Here on this show with you and with Jason. Thank you for this opportunity. I'm wishing that you and President Trump would really come and visit Bethlehem, the.
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G
Heart of Bethlehem, the cradle of Jesus.
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A
Christ, and to support the Christian communities here.
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C
And I thank Mr. President Trump that he's bringing us hope and peace to.
- [59:33]
G
The Middle east and especially Palestine.
- [59:38]
D
We are going to I'm going to talk to Jason. I want to interview you the first couple days of next week about my idea of the new Christian state of Jerusalem, that the third state since they've got a Palestinian state now in Gaza, we need a Christian state. But I'll hold that for after Christmas. What's your social media? How do people find out more about your your fight and your efforts in the Holy Land?
- [59:58]
C
It's Alice Kisia on the social media and we have the Save Al Mahloor.
- [60:03]
G
Also on Instagram and they can search al mahrur.org they can also find us on the website.
- [60:12]
D
Ma', am, thank you. Look forward to talking to you Monday or Tuesday of next week. Thank you. Jason Jones, one more time, your your social media. Where do people get you over the Christmas holiday, sir?
- [60:21]
H
Well, Instagram, all my social media and my substack is the Jason Jones show, my podcast, the Jason Jones Show. And if you want to stand in solidarity with the most vulnerable Christians in the world, we provide security in Nigeria. We serve the persecuted church here and in Gaza and around the world in India. Go to vulnerablepeopleproject.com if you want to deliver firewood into Gaza with us. Go to protect holylandchristians.com and Steve, it's just been an honor to share Bethlehem with you and your audience. It's a great privilege. Thank you for this.
- [60:54]
D
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Around three o', clock, Marla. Merry Christmas, guys. Tomorrow, Combat History at Christmas, Patrick K. O' Donnell and myself, Raheem will be on Boxing Day. And we're back on Saturday. The very another incredible special. Gonna leave you some of this great music. Merry Christmas, folks. We'll see you tomorrow morning right here in the world.
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