Podcast Summary: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon (Ep. #5027)

Date: December 27, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guest: Larry Schweikart (historian, author), Trevor Comstock (Sacred Human founder)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on America’s historical identity, the narrative of its founding, and the current crossroads facing the nation, particularly through the lens of Larry Schweikart, noted historian and author of “A Patriot’s History of the United States.” Schweikart discusses his new work chronicling America in the 21st century, the challenges of writing contemporary history, the spiritual underpinnings of American exceptionalism, and the impact of rapid technological and societal change. The dialogue is anchored by Bannon’s core War Room themes: populism, national identity, the failings of contemporary political and educational elites, and the urgent need for civic renewal rooted in America’s foundational values.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Patriot’s History – Origin, Impact, and Updates

• Larry Schweikart describes the ongoing popularity of A Patriot’s History of the United States. Despite the original publisher not commissioning new editions, he has written two new chapters (2018–2025) available free by request.
  • Quote:
    “I decided ... to write two more chapters that bring everything up to 2025 and make them available to anyone who emails me … and I probably sent out four to five hundred of those requests.” — Larry Schweikart [04:59]
• Focus on keeping American history current and accessible, especially for audiences feeling underserved by mainstream, often progressive, narratives.

2. Writing History in Real-Time: The Challenge of Contemporary Events

• Bannon queries the difficulty of writing history in the present moment, with Schweikart noting that today’s challenge isn’t lack of sources but sifting through an “overload” of information.
• Schweikart emphasizes the importance of “the law of significance” when deciding what events to include.
  • Quote:
    “Teaching and writing modern history is incredibly difficult… The challenge for writing history in the last 10 years is you’re deluged with sources… so you have to apply the law of significance.” — Larry Schweikart [08:09]

3. Correcting Historical Narratives and Biases

• Schweikart recounts how establishment texts biased against American achievements spurred him and co-author Michael Allen to write a new narrative.
  • Quote:
    “They dwelled on America’s faults and minimized all of America’s successes... We look at everything. We look at America's faults and failures, but we also look at all of America's successes.” — Larry Schweikart [13:35]
• Pillars of American exceptionalism as defined by Schweikart and Allen:
  • Protestant religious tradition (emphasizing bottom-up congregationalism)
  • Common law (bottom-up political structure)
  • Economic achievement
  • Honest balance of failure and success

4. Foundational American Principles and the Mayflower Compact

• In a deeply reflective segment, Schweikart posits that America was founded in a “covenant with God”—a foundational compact unique among nations.
  • Quote:
    “America was created, particularly in Plymouth… it was a covenant with God. And I believe America has a special type of dispensation.” — Larry Schweikart [28:30]
• Elaboration on why the Mayflower Compact is unique:
  • Loyalty to the king despite being “blown off course”
  • Political equality of “strangers” (non-Puritans)
  • Election of their own leader—setting up a precedent for bottom-up governance
    • Quote:
      “The Mayflower Compact set up three major things… the people we call strangers who are not puritans, they are equal to us in all political rights… and they needed to elect a leader… there’s that common law bottom-up impetus right there off the bat.” — Larry Schweikart [32:21]

5. Contemporary Spiritual and Demographic Challenges

• Bannon and Schweikart explore the spiritual dimension of American life, especially in light of mass immigration and secularization.
  • Quote:
    “Has [mass immigration] so changed the construct of the country … that we can’t possibly be still in a covenant?” — Stephen K. Bannon [40:30]
• Schweikart speculates about a possible religious “revival” but notes rapid cultural change and accelerating loneliness/suicide rates post-iPhone era.

6. Acceleration of Technology, AI, and the Future of Governance

• The show examines the unprecedented pace of technological change, the rise of AI, and “the Singularity”—the point at which human and machine intelligences merge.
  • Quote:
    “AI is here in various forms, it’s accelerating at light speed… the US has to control it, and … be dominant in AI, not allow the ChiComs to dominate us…” — Larry Schweikart [44:23]
• Bannon stresses the inability of Congress and traditional institutions to legislate or adapt rapidly enough.
  • Quote:
    “Congress is on the verge of being structurally irrelevant… they cannot remotely move fast enough to deal with today’s problems.” — Larry Schweikart [47:40]
• Speculation that the current Democratic Party may be heading towards extinction, unable to respond to these changes.

7. The Rise of Homeschooling and Independent Curricula

• Schweikart notes massive growth in homeschooling after COVID-19 and widespread dissatisfaction with public education.
  • “I think we're the number one homeschool curriculum in history out there … the market's almost quadrupled in the last three or four years. Some estimates say there's 20 million homeschoolers.” — Larry Schweikart [56:29]
• Emphasis on the demand for pro-American, non-denominational but Christian-friendly histories and civics materials.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon on the MAGA Movement and Historical Resistance:
  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime … we're going medieval on these people … The people have had a belly full of it.” [03:22]
• Schweikart on America's Founding Uniqueness:
  “God essentially set up a covenant with the United States, and I don't believe he has allowed that covenant to lapse.” [28:30]
• Schweikart on Fast-Moving Technology:
  “One thing is sure, AI is here in various forms, it’s accelerating at light speed... these are the issues now confronting the next quarter century … AI is right at the top, ethically, morally and economically.” [44:23]
• Bannon on Historical Cycles (“The Turnings”):
  “Every 80 to 100 years, you had the Civil War, then the Great Depression and World War II, and now … the Age of Trump.” [27:34]
• Schweikart’s Guidance for Policymakers:
  “The way to fix it is get off your ass and do your job… pass legislation so that Trump doesn’t have to issue an executive order...” [49:49]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Schweikart on updating "A Patriot’s History" — [04:59]
• On bias in traditional history textbooks — [08:09], [13:35]
• Pillars of American Exceptionalism — [13:35]
• Discussion of Mayflower Compact and the concept of covenant — [30:15]–[32:21]
• Mass immigration and spiritual foundations — [41:43]
• Technology, AI, and national survival — [44:23]–[47:40]
• Homeschooling, education renewal, and pro-American curriculum — [56:29]

Additional: Guest Details and Resources

Larry Schweikart

• Offers updated chapters of his major work via email (larry@wildworldofhistory.com)
• Wildworldofhistory.com — Historical video courses, homeschool curricula
• Wildworldofpolitics.com — Political commentary
• Upcoming books:
  • America in the 21st Century (Feb 2026)
  • American Biography, linked vignettes of 100 Americans (June 2026, for the U.S. semiquincentennial)

Trevor Comstock (Sacred Human) — [22:56]

• Emphasis on clean, natural health products; response to large supplement companies cutting corners.
• Flagship product: Grass-fed beef liver supplement (“nature’s multivitamin”), extensive positive reviews.
• All products are third-party tested for purity.
• Website: sacredhumanhealth.com

Overall Tone and Flow

The episode is fast-paced, unapologetically patriotic, intellectually combative, and both reverential and hopeful regarding America’s founding principles. Bannon’s questioning pushes Schweikart into deep and at times spiritual territory, reaffirming the War Room’s populist, anti-elite ethos and advocating for civic revival, educational reform, and robust debate about technology’s role in national destiny.

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