THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 5061)

Summary

Podcast Summary: THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 5061)

Date: January 12, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: George Papadopoulos, L. Todd Wood, Dr. Bradley Thayer, Steve Cortez, Dr. Peter Navarro

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Overview

This episode of "The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon" delivers a combative, unfiltered analysis of U.S. politics, national security, emerging military and technological advances, and the ongoing culture war. The conversation reflects a populist, nationalist perspective, focusing on border security, economic warfare, American manufacturing, and the threat of foreign influence—particularly from the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and radical Islam.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. DOJ’s Grand Jury Investigation & Deep State Lawfare

(00:56–04:20)

• Guest George Papadopoulos discusses a newly empaneled grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, investigating alleged criminal conduct tied to the Democratic Party extending back to 2015.
  • Statute of Limitations: DOJ is treating the Democratic Party akin to a "criminal organization" similar to the Mafia, enabling a 10-year investigation window.
  • Scope: Not just about 2016, but includes events up to the 2020 election, both Trump impeachments, and current legal battles.
  • Significance: “This is the most important and significant investigation in modern American history.” — George Papadopoulos (02:08)

Follow George Papadopoulos on X: @GeorgePapa19.

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2. Military Innovation and U.S. Industrial Might

(04:25–09:59)

• L. Todd Wood (ex-Special Forces helicopter pilot, defense industry insider) describes explosive growth in U.S. defense innovation.
  • Resurgence of Cool Factor: Defense work has become “cool” again, thanks to companies like SpaceX, Rocket Lab, and Castilian developing high-tech weapons (e.g., Blackbeard cruise missile).
  • Cost & Scale: New cruise missiles developed at $300K–$400K per unit vs. traditional $4 million price.
  • Tech Leap: Advanced heads-up displays and comms systems now at soldier level; possible use of sonic weapons in the extraction of Maduro.
    • Quote: “You’re seeing an explosion of innovation with American talent… There’s no China involved in this at all.” — L. Todd Wood (05:46)
  • Geopolitical Leverage: Operations in Venezuela and Iran showcase U.S. strategic and technological prowess.

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3. Geopolitics: CCP, Economic Warfare & American Strategy

(09:59–16:28)

• Dr. Bradley Thayer (geopolitics professor/author) argues that economic warfare—especially against CCP oil flows—is the most effective way to counter both Iran and China.
  • China as “Center of Gravity”: U.S. policy should focus on weakening the CCP, as it is seen as the driving force in global adversarial networks.
  • U.S. Domestic Front: Claims of long-term infiltration by Communist-front organizations, with ties from the Soviet Union to the PRC’s United Front Work Department.
    • Quote: “The CCP is really the center of gravity here. Everything that we do that weakens the CCP… that’s going to be positive.” — Dr. Bradley Thayer (11:25)
  • Policy Recommendation: Use economic levers, not kinetic military force, to weaken adversaries.

Follow Dr. Thayer: @BradThayer on X.

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4. American Sovereignty & Immigration: Populist Action Items

(17:43–26:33)

• Clip by Steve Cortez lays out a populist rhetoric: “America’s ruling class doesn’t care about you. Instead, they serve foreigners... We are taking America back.” (17:51)
• Bannon and Cortez discuss:
  • Mass Deportations: Call for mass removal of illegal immigrants (est. 15–20 million).
  • Allegations of “Invasion”: Cites Minneapolis and other cities as under threat from both legal and illegal immigration and “Islamic invasion.”
  • Policy Priorities: Decade-long immigration moratorium, ending H1B visa program, stopping aid to overseas conflicts, punishing political enemies.
    • Action Items (Steve Cortez, 24:15):
      1. Arrest and deport Ilhan Omar for alleged immigration fraud.
      2. Prosecute outgoing MN Governor Tim Walz for enabling “scams.”
      3. Remove Rep. Tom Emmer (MN) from GOP leadership for embracing third-world migration.
    • Quote: “The main battles are not in Tehran… they are right here at home.” — Steve Cortez (20:53)
• Continued calls to confront “Sharia law” and foreign influence, especially in Texas (upcoming ballot initiative).

Follow Steve Cortez: CortezInvestigates.com, @CortezSteve on X.

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5. Trump’s Economic Policy Checklist (Peter Navarro)

(28:07–38:07)

• Dr. Peter Navarro outlines current Trump administration economic policy moves:
  1. Housing Affordability Crisis: Claims influx of illegal aliens has driven rents up 20%; Trump acts to lower rates by banning institutional investors and freeing up retirement savings for homebuyers.
  2. Jobs Report: Fewer jobs needed as immigration tightens; predicts stable employment with lower job creation.
  3. Venezuelan Oil: U.S. importing heavy crude to optimize existing refineries and reduce fuel costs.
  4. Credit Card Interest Caps: Push to limit credit card APRs to 10%.
  • Future Policy Watch: Concern about AI data centers driving up electricity rates and rare earth mineral supply chains.
    • Quote: “When the trade deficit falls, that gives us higher growth because we got more jobs and factories…” — Dr. Peter Navarro (35:15)
• Praises the administration’s nationalist agenda and supply-side policies.

Follow Peter Navarro: PeterNavarro.com, PeterNavarro.Substack.com

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6. Health Care, Immigration & Economic Nationalism

(38:07–39:57)

• Steve Cortez discusses the cost of illegal immigration on health care and public assistance.
  • Minnesota Focus: “86% of the Somalians are on Medicaid in Minnesota.” — Steve Bannon (38:07)
  • Emphasizes political will to expedite deportations and curb entitlements for non-citizens.

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7. Texas as Political and Cultural Battleground

(41:18–43:26)

• Bannon issues a call to arms against “Islamic jihadis” in Texas, previewing upcoming War Room Texas program.
  • “Sharia Compounds” Allegation: Asserts religious law is encroaching on U.S. sovereignty, particularly in Texas.
    • Quote: “As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?” — Steve Bannon (42:24)

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Notable Quotes

• Bannon: “This is the primal scream of a dying regime… Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people.” (00:00)
• Papadopoulos: “This is the most important and significant investigation in modern American history.” (02:08)
• L. Todd Wood: “There’s no China involved in this at all… the 3D printing, the iteration, the manufacturing… blew me away, Steve.” (05:46)
• Dr. Thayer: “It’s the Chinese Communist Party which is driving a lot of this in conjunction with their allies domestically…” (11:25)
• Steve Cortez: “America’s ruling class doesn’t care about you. Instead, they serve foreigners… We are taking America back.” (17:51)
• Navarro: “When the trade deficit falls, that gives us higher growth because we got more jobs and factories and all that stuff.” (35:15)
• Bannon: “As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world.” (42:24)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|-------------| | 00:56 | Launch of grand jury discussion (Papadopoulos) | | 05:46 | L. Todd Wood on defense innovation | | 11:25 | Dr. Thayer on China and economic warfare | | 17:51 | Steve Cortez populist “America First” monologue | | 24:15 | Cortez’s action items: Omar, Walz, Emmer | | 28:07 | Peter Navarro: Economic checklist | | 38:07 | Health care & Somali immigrant costs | | 41:18 | Launch of War Room Texas, “Sharia law” discussion |

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Conclusion

This episode underscores the War Room’s core narratives: perceived “deep state” persecution, threats to national and cultural sovereignty, the necessity for economic and military strength, and nationalist policies. Bannon and guests reiterate urgent calls for sweeping immigration enforcement, economic warfare with China, pushing back on globalist policies, and resisting perceived domestic subversion. Texas emerges as the new epicenter of the show’s political ambitions, with an explicit focus on combating “Sharia law” and fortifying the border ahead of crucial primaries.

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For further details and regular updates:

• Steve Bannon: @SteveBannon (various platforms)
• Guests: Refer to social media handles above
• Related Sites: War Room: Pandemic, Cortez Investigates, PeterNavarro.com

End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[B]

And where do people like that go to share the big L Maga Media I wish in my soul, I wish.

[A]

That any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[B]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K.

[C]

Ban.

[A]

Monday 12 January Yerviller 20276 in Fort Pierce Grand Jury and panel today. George Papadopoulos is with us El Todd woods and Dr. They are going to join us in a moment for the geopolitics all and the national security and the industrial might of the United States of America. So George, just explain is this going to just cover the run up to the 26 election, 2016 election and what they tried to do to steal it or is this going to also include, do you believe the first term where having not stopped us in allowing Clinton to get in and be Obama's third term but if Clinton had gotten in and remember Merrick Garland had already been nominated for the Supreme Court and she wanted to put somebody even more radical than Merrick Garland. The reason they didn't fight so hard for Merrick Garland is he was too moderate. They were to control the Supreme Court, they would control the Senate, the House and they were controlled the executive branch. Game over United States of America. So are we just going to do the run up to 16 where you got rolled up or we're actually going to do the first term of the administration, sir.

[D]

Steve There was always this big question about statute of limitations and how that might preclude the DOJ for pursuing these various charges because some people thought that the so called time clock expired. But what the DOJ has done here is by looking at the Democrat party as a whole as a criminal organization in parallel to how the Mafia was viewed during the time of Mayor Giuliani in New York. It allowed them to extend the time clock by looking at the Democrat party as some sort of criminal entity that has been basically waging lawfare and engaging in criminal activities for at least 10 years going back to 2015 through Joe Biden So this is not simply about Donald Trump's first term and things that happened to myself and others. This goes into the 2020 election. Impeachment, 1.0, 2.0, all of the shenanigans during the Lawfare effort against candidate Trump this past election and how he valiantly fought back against all of that. This is why this is the most important and significant investigation in modern American history. And it's being conducted with the right people at the right time.

[A]

George, where do people. Your Twitter feed, you're putting up stuff all the time because you're following this very closely and we want to make sure that we have you on every couple of days for an update. And I know you've got great stuff going up in Gateway Pundit, but where can people follow you? You're absolutely correct. This is the single Watergate looks like the third rate burglary it was. And as we keep saying, their trial run on Lawfare was with Sirica and these guys to take Nixon out. And now they've really perfected it. The deep state perfected it. That's your, that's what's going to be on trial here. This grand jury. What's going on is the most important investigation in the history of the country. So how do people stay on top of this? Following you, sir.

[D]

I really appreciate that. Steve, you can follow me on X at George, Papa 19.

[A]

George, you're a patriot and a hero. Thank you for joining us on Worm this morning.

[D]

Appreciate it, appreciate it, Steve, thanks so much.

[A]

So it started down in Florida. We're going to be on that obviously wall to wall. There are other things happening too, but that is one that's got to be Main Battery. Got to be on top of that. I got Dr. Thayer here for the geopolitics and Todd woods here for kind of the mechanics. Todd, let me start with you. You actually went with Pete Hexseth. And if people think that Pete Hexseth is just running around doing push ups and looking great in suits and coming in for great press conference and bits, I mean, let's be blunt. He's been Secretary of War of two of the most complicated expeditionary events in American military history. The end of the strike that ended the 12 day war and then the situation in with Maduro of the extraction of Maduro, those are, those are enormously, you know, having been a small bit in a wheel as a junior officer back in 79 and 80 for the catat the workup that was the catastrophe of Desert One, I can tell you. Well, the military's changed radically. But just the leadership to make sure things happen is extraordinary. You were actually selected Todd, given your knowledge. You were a special Air Force, Special Forces helicopter pilot, Air Force Academy grad. I know a lot about the industrial process. You were selected to go on this trip last week. What did you find sir?

[E]

Steve I was shocked in a very positive way. I sat down with executives from I think three or four companies. Very innovative. You know at the academy we were taught about Lockheed Skunk Works back in the middle of the 20th century where they developed jets to counter the Nazis. In 140 days out in the desert living in trailers. That's what they're doing here at one company, Castilian who is developing the new Blackbeard cruise missile. They put guys out in the desert for months in trailers and they test iterate, test iterate, test iterate. And with no bureaucracy, with all the funding they need and what you're seeing is just an explosion of innovation with American talent. These are all Americans and with American parts. There's no China involved in this at all. They did say they have some allies delivering parts but just fascinating the 3D printing, the iterative process, the manufacturing plants, the technology that's going on. I can't go into all of it but just an impressive group of people. And one thing in this area of Los Angeles there is had been, I was told kind of a cultural. You would look down upon anybody working in the defense sector because Google was cool and all that. Well that has changed and now it's cool. You've got SpaceX coming in there, you've got rocket lab Castilian, Divergent, just really interesting companies. And divergent camera from developing hypercars at 2 1/2 million apiece 3D printing. And now they're moving all this into developing cruise missiles. So at scale and they're talking. Let me give you an example. Currently one of the cruise missiles they're looking at if you bought it off the shelf today is around 4 million. They're developing these between 300 and 400,000 a copy at scale. Thousands new factories being built everywhere. It's really blew me away Steve, to be blunt.

[A]

Yeah, Kevin Zinger actually hired Kevin at Goldman Sachs years ago in the M and A department. He's a buddy for a long time we've had him on the show with the cruise missile. It's amazing what diversion's doing show how that because America first remember we're non interventionists but we want to make sure we we have hemispheric defense in America safe. Of course a big part of that is, is getting rid of the 15 to 20 million illegal aliens that are here that they're fighting us on in Minneapolis. But how has this manifested itself? You're a Special Forces. I know you were a helicopter pilot. My kid brother was a lamps pilot on a, on a frigate. And that's. You guys do some of the most dangerous flying in the world. How did all this advances in technology manifest itself both in the end of the 12 Day War and at the ex. At the extraction of Maduro? Because there were things happened there as I've drilled down and talked to people that are mind blowing about the scale of what the US forces come in with now. Sir.

[E]

Well, I, I had a chance to ask those questions directly and I can't say specifically what I was told, but let's just say it was a multi pronged effort and there's information out now that the, you know, the, the shooters on the ground had advanced technology comms and, and analysis systems. Kind of a heads up display that we used to have in the cockpits, you know, mounted on your helmet so you could see you didn't have to look down at the instruments because you're flying into a, an LZ that's hot and you got to put the guys here with the tail pointed this way and a door gun pointed this way and you know number two and three got to come in right behind you so you can't really look down at your instruments. So that's all displayed on your helmet, on your visor. And that's what they're doing with the soldier level now, which is fascinating with the network connectivity and also the sonic weapons. There's press out on this that they basically took down several hundred, actually up to a thousand soldiers that were guarding Maduro with sonic weapons that they felt like it was exploding in their brain. So you know, I don't know, maybe that's propaganda to try to try to deter people from messing with us. But all of that exists, you know, how it was used, hopefully will come out later. And, and also I want to, I'm trying to dig into and I know something but the, the guys that were shot on the helicopters, we're going to dig into that going forward as well.

[A]

Well, yeah, the helicopter, the two helicopter pilots, we avoided a treasure there because the greatness in the audience understand the helicopter training. You get what Todd woods got from the Air Force, my kid brother got with the Navy, what these new things, these helicopter pilots are the best in the world. What they do is unbelievable. Breathtaking. Hang on for a second, Todd. I want to go to Thayer, Dr. Bradley Thayer. From Greenland to the Arctic to the Panama Canal to South America to Tehran, geopolitically. And I want to state, you know, I was not a big fan of doing what we did in Argentina. I understand why we had to do it. Scott Bessant, Treasury Secretary, structured the bailout there, $20 billion credit facility. They drove down, I think, two and a half billion. They've paid it all back and made a couple of million bucks in the process. So good on you, Scott. Milei, you know, won the election. It seems to be now on steady course. So economic. I'm a huge believer in economic warfare, the geopolitical strategy. We've got a carrier battle group heading towards the North Arabian Sea. President Trump's going to get briefed tomorrow. Of course, Todd and I are both hearing that the people, the Lindsay Lady, G. Lindsey Graham, and these folks are pressing President Trump to strike Tehran. I believe that if you just cut the oil off coming out of the straits or Hormuz headed to the ccp, that that will bring the mullahs to the knees in economic warfare. Dr. Thayer, your thoughts?

[F]

Well, Steve, great to join you and to build on Todd's remarks. I think it's both a very propitious time, but also a very dangerous time in terms of what we're facing. If we look at the situation, getting rid of Maduro, of course, had many positive effects impacts there. You were able to bring about a leadership change in Venezuela very effectively, as Todd described. Iran is a little bit different. Of course, targeting the oil makes a lot of sense. If they can't export their oil, which is everything for them, that hurts the ccp, the Chinese Communist Party, and it also hurts the regime in Tehran. So we want to keep in mind, secondly, that the CCP is really the center of gravity here. Right. It's the Chinese Communist Party which is driving a lot of this in conjunction with their allies domestically in the United States, for example. Right. What's happening in Minnesota is not an accident. It's the result of a long process of Communists and Communist front organizations working historically with the Soviet Union, more recently working with the PRC's United Front Work department and associated groups. And then, of course, the fact that the Comintern has been privatized. It's run by George Soros now his son Alexander, and other groups like Neville Singham. Right. The People's Forum as well. So we need to recognize that the CCP is the center of gravity here. Everything that we do that weakens the ccp, whether that's oil, whether that's other economic measures. You'll have Peter on, and I'm sure Peter's going to have a lot to discuss. Peter Navarro, Dr. Peter Navarro will address this issue, too. That's going to be positive. Everything that we're doing which is hurting the ccp, because at the end of the day, in all of these measures, we need to see it through the lens of great power politics, Steve, it's whether there's, you know, great power politics is zero sum. If something's helping the ccp, it's hurting us. So we need to think about every aspect of what's benefiting them and doing what we do what we can to ensure that the CCP is hurt, whether that's trade, whether that's tariffs, whether that's oil or whether that's other tools in the toolbox that we have that we haven't implemented deployed yet. We want the CCP to rue the day, right. They started this economic war with US in April, April 3rd, you'll remember, with the rare earths and the magnets, and then again in October when they tighten that. We want them to rue the day that they started these measures. We don't want to fight a war with the ccp. We want to deter a war with the ccp and using our own tools.

[A]

We don't want to fight.

[F]

Yeah, but also using our we don't.

[A]

Want a kinetic word. Yeah, okay. Hang on for a second. By the way, Scott Bessant's chairing, I think, a conference today on alternatives away from the CCP on rare earths over at the Treasury Department. Short commercial break Back in the Warm in a moment.

[G]

Foreign.

[B]

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[F]

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[D]

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[A]

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[F]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Sign up for free and be part of the movement. Okay. Dr. Thayer, I know you're working on a book about all this. What's the book? It's going to come out sometime this year and where people go social media to follow you on all this.

[F]

Oh, well, Stephen, thanks very much for mentioning it and thanks for contributing the forward to it. The book is looking at America's hundred years war against communism. We've been locked in a long war that's had an international element against the Soviets and against the Chinese Communist Party, but it also has a domestic component as well where communist groups have been operating in the US to take a sledgehammer to America and to American identity. So the book will be forthcoming this year as you mentioned. And my social media is at Brad Thayer on X and Bradley Thuringhetter and truth. Thanks very much, Steve.

[A]

Thank you, brother. Thank you for coming on Friday. Also you're going to be have a big part of this war room Texas El Todd Woods. You're hearing I think what I'm hearing. What are you hearing about a strike in Tehran, sir? The unclassified.

[E]

Yeah. I'm hearing that something's going to happen. Let's just leave it at that. So that I probably a joint Israeli strike. That's what I'm hearing.

[A]

Yeah. Not good boy. Or post that. But hey, you can only do what you can do. Todd, where do people go to get over to CDM to see all the coverage you've got on everything?

[E]

Put CDM Press in your daily scan. It's our main site. Everything flows into that from all over the world. We're up all night curating stories. We're not as big as others, but we do try to get out stories that you really need to know and stories you're not going to hear anywhere else. So and I might l at Real L, Todd Wood on X and at CDM underscore Press on X for the company. Thank you.

[A]

The the piece on Pete, Pete Hexith and and what they're working on over there at the Pentagon and how Pete's got that thing organized and trying to get the Chinese Communist Party out of the supply chain is worth going over there. Spectacular. So thanks, Todd. Appreciate it.

[C]

Thank you.

[E]

Thank you, Steve.

[A]

Who rules the United States? Does maga. Let's check it out. Let's play a short clip. We got Steve Cortez.

[B]

Are you a bigot for wanting a border? Are you selfish for insisting that your tax dollars stay here? Here's the truth. America's ruling class doesn't care about you. Instead, they serve foreigners. Foreigners first. Always and only illegal migrants roam our cities. Elites borrow money in your name to fund foreign wars. Scammers run wild in our homeland while working Americans struggle. And if you object, you're the problem. Now, it's not Incompetence it's the plan. Andrew Breitbart, he saw it coming. Overwhelm the system, then swoop in with solutions that only serve the connected cabal. They manufacture the chaos so that they can then control the outcome. But we are done. We're done playing defense. America first means securing our borders. Mass deportations, an end to giant scams by foreigners who shouldn't even be here and prioritizing working families before $1 goes overseas to corrupt charlatans like Zelensky. This country. This country belongs to its citizens, not global elites. Its last call for their pathetic soiree. And we are not asking anymore. We are taking America back.

[A]

So, Cortez, I love the rhetoric. Let's talk about the reality. We got David Hoak. I know. David Hoque and Nick Shirley.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Heroically. And these guys are being under abuse by the. By the crowd of Marxist jihadists in Minnesota are coming out today, I believe, later today with even bigger bombshells than they've already dropped. I think people's heads are going to blow up. Right now. They're kind of at a standoff. We're surging more ICE people into more ICE agents in the Minneapolis, but the mass deportations in New York City, I mean, Mondami is kind of called our bluff in Chicago, in Minneapolis, you got to get to master brigade. They're 15 to 20 million and just not bad, hombres. Everybody here broke the law and they all got to go. And at the same time, you heard Earl Todd woods is what I've been hearing and working against all weekend. We got a carrier battle group heading toward the North Arabian Sea, where I used to be. And let me tell you, if it would stop the oil from coming out of the Straits Hormuz like we stopped off Venezuela, the world would be in a great place because the economic warfare would bring the regime in Tehran to its knees. But Lady G. And if you saw the cold open. Lady G's been working the president all weekend. They're going to meet tomorrow. But Todd Wood's hearing the same thing I'm hearing, that they're working on maybe a joint strike with the Israelis. So with your magnificent rhetoric there, what's the reality, sir?

[B]

Well, the reality is that our problems are not overseas primarily. They're right here at home. But unfortunately, the American left, the ruling class in this country aligned with radical leftists like Mandani, like Antifa. They prioritize foreigners always. And they do it both here on our soil as well as overseas. As you're just describing There and the events of this new year, I think bring clarity to this prioritization of foreigners. Meaning if we look at the anti ice violence that is taking place across the country, but most intensely right now in Minnesota, if we look at these migrant scams that have been perpetrated at a scale that's almost hard to believe within our country. And then if we look at the amount of aid and attention that we are focusing on overseas wars that have nothing to do with the United States, not in our national interest, particularly the Black Sea, ancient ethnic regional conflict that has taken is ongoing there. The common theme, the through line. And you do such a good job with this on War Room, Steve, connecting the dots between events that may not on its face, face on their face seem to be interconnected, but they're inextricably linked. The through line is prioritizing foreigners, always. That is what the ruling class in this country does. Now, thankfully, our movement stands up against that. And it's not just the right thing to do to prioritize American citizens, it's also politically expedient and very, very popular. I've been polling for months and months, for example, whether or not the United States should disengage from Ukraine if those two parties cannot reach a peaceful resolution, given the fact that Donald Trump thankfully has brokered finally peace dialogue there. And if they cannot, only a tiny minority of America wants to stay engaged. My latest poll, for example, of Gen Z, 18 to 25 year olds, only 23% say that we should stay engaged in Ukraine. So our main battles are not in Tehran, they're not in Kiev, they are right here at home. They are in Minnesota, they're all over this country. And I want to try to awaken folks into this new year.

[A]

That's also, it's also, it's Minneapolis. This is why we're launching War Room Texas today about the Islamic invasion and stopping Sharia law in Texas. Because New York, Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle, I mean, you go across five of the biggest cities in the north, they haven't fallen like Paris, they haven't fallen like London. Which I tell people in Paris and London all the time. I just gave a huge interview on French TV the other night in prime time, and I said, yo, in Paris, the Fifth Republic's gonna fall and the only way you're gonna take Paris back, you're gonna have a bloody civil war, full stop. Yeah, the French have gotta accept that that's what's gonna happen. Now, the problem is it's not in Minneapolis, it's on Capitol Hill, H1B visas and all these legal migration things, immigration are all a scam. You know, Chip Roy's come out with it. We've supported a hard 10 year moratorium, no immigration for a decade to sort this mess out in the ending of the H1B visa scam. Is that also a priority that we, if we don't do that plus drive out the 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders that came here kind of on the low scale end, you're not going to have a country, a working class Hispanics and that we just wanted the Rio Grande Valley. Working class blacks are going to sit there and go, well, what did you guys really end up doing for us, sir?

[B]

Right, Listen, you're exactly correct, Steve, because the betrayal, the betrayal of sovereignty, the betrayal of prioritizing our own neighbors, our own American citizens, it has been bipartisan. So let me take it from the theoretical to an action item list that I hope will be pursued aggressively both by the Trump administration as well as by our movement, by grassroots citizens in this country. Number one, Ilhan Omar. Let's get to action items. Three of them. Ilhan Omar. She needs to be arrested. She needs to be deported. It is certain that she committed immigration fraud in becoming an American citizen. She doesn't belong in the US Congress, she doesn't belong in the US Period. Arrest and deport her. Tim Walls certainly committed crimes. It becomes increasingly apparent that he committed crimes that he wasn't just tolerating the abuse of the law and scams on a massive scale, but actually incentivizing and part participating in in them. So it's good that he's not running again. That's the first scalp for America first. But he needs to resign. And more than that, he needs to be indicted, he needs to face criminal charges. And then on the Republican side of the aisle, Tom Emmer, third in charge of the House. On the GOP side, Congressman from Minnesota, who's talking really tough these days, suddenly he's found religion on immigration. But guess what? For a decade. And he has been constantly and everywhere welcoming and encouraging more and more third world migration, particularly from Somalia. The former chair of the Somalia Caucus. There is one, believe it or not, in on Capitol Hill, a Republican chairing it from Minnesota, bragging about it constantly now trying to act tough on these issues. He needs to be politically relegated. I prefer that he get beaten, of course, at the ballot box, but if that doesn't happen, he cannot be in leadership. He cannot have a position of influence within our party, certainly not within our movement. So I think those three action items, Ilhan Omar, Tim Walls, Tom Emmer, if we see those, those three things happening in the next few weeks and months now we're talking and that gives us the right and the platform into November to make the case to the American people that Republicans deserve leadership. They deserve the Speaker's gavel in the House of Representatives because they are protecting you against a foreign invasion.

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Steve, hang on for a second. Dr. Peter Navarro is going to join the conversation from the White House. Going to take a short commercial break. War Room Texas premieres tonight at 6pm make sure you're there to watch it. You're going to love this as we focus on the great state of Texas, the jewel of the crown of the American union. Short break.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

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I want to thank The Patriot mobile guys. 972 Patriot talk to a Hill as they as the company describes it, a hillbilly with an East Texas accent, an American citizen to find about all the special offers that Patriot Mobile have. But most importantly they back your play. They're Christian conservative company that really helped put on that great event we had on Friday all day in Texas. And there'll be a Glenn. I'll get Glenn's story up tonight on the launch of War Room Texas. That will Drive us toward the 3rd March primary to take ban Sharia law from the state of Texas, hopefully start that process abandoned from the United States of America. Ask the people in Tehran today how that worked out for them. Ask them. Dr. Peter Navarro joins us from the White House. There's so much going on, Peter. You've got editorials, op eds, everything. You guys are on a roll right now. The floor is yours. Dr. Navarro, what do you got for us?

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Yeah, let me, let me run through the MAGA checklist. I got quick four good things for you, Steve. Let's start with housing affordability. This is a very big deal. It was a crisis that was in many ways sparked by 20 million illegal aliens coming in. During the Biden years, every 1 million illegals pushed up rents 1%. So that's 20% hike nationwide. And most of it was hit in big urban areas like in New York and Chicago. So we've got to attack that. So we got three things going here. The first is these mortgage backed securities. You can channel your old Goldman Sachs days. Basically the feds are going to buy $200 billion worth of mortgage backed securities that should lower mortgage rates by a quarter to a half a point. That's significant. We're banning Large institutional investors think the bad guys like BlackRock, the hedge funds and all that from coming in and buying single family homes, which, you know, the studies there show that rents and housing prices skyrocket. They do that. So we're going to get to that. And then the boss is also floating. The idea with Treasury Secretary Bessen, who you had on a couple of days ago, was just amazing, of no penalties for retirement account withdrawals if you want to use them as a down payment. So that's all good. Second thing is I want to. The jobs report came out last week, 50,000 jobs, okay? And the analyst said it was weak and the left jumped all over and said we're not creating as many jobs. Okay, here's the memo. Back in the day when we had millions of illegals coming into our country, our economy was basically built to create jobs for illegal aliens. In fact, you know the data, Steve, it's like we were like hiring millions of illegals even as we were putting American citizens to the kicking them to the curb. Here's the point. Going forward, the steady state to keep the unemployment rate low is more like 50,000 jobs a month rather than 200,000. And we have to adjust our thinking when we analyze that and not fall into the Democrats trap of saying we're a slow growth presidency because that's nothing far from the truth. All right, Third thing, Venezuelan crude. It's like, what's going on there? We're buying oil from Venezuela. We got a bunch of frackers. We're energy. Okay, so here's the story behind there. All crude is not created equal. All refineries are bespoke or customized refineries. So much of our refinery capacity, and we haven't built new ones in like decades, was targeted to refine heavy oil when fracking came along. That's disproportionately light oil. So we're running our refineries inefficiently. So to the extent that we can get Venezuelan heavy crude in to mix in with our refineries, particularly in the Gulf coast areas, we're going to be able to significantly lower the price of gasoline and diesel for the American people. And number four on the list, which is interesting, is this whole capping of credit card interest at 10%. I was on with Maria Bartiromo this morning and joked, but it's true. I mean, the mafia can't charge as high as interest rates as the credit cards get away with. I mean, it's obscene. It's upwards of 30%. And the bankers are complaining about this, about that. But the problem is, Steve, they do no due diligence. They hand out credit cards like they're cotton candy and then they charge everybody else for the inevitable fraud that happens. So the boss, President Donald John Trump, is hitting on all cylinders, trying to reduce the cost of living for Americans even as he's trying to increase wages. And that's a report to Magellan and the Great Steve Bannon.

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Dr. Navarro, before we let you go, I know you're working on a bunch of things. He just give us a quick heads up, a couple minutes on things that we should look at coming out of your shop. We understand that the Supreme Court may rule this week on terrorists. The central biggest thing that President Trump's done besides the economically the massive supply side tax cut was liberation day in the changing of the world's commercial relationships. What do you got for us there, sir?

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Well, look, in terms of you asking, what's coming up, we're looking very, very carefully at this whole problem of AI data centers driving up the cost of electricity for Americans at the same time that they threaten the integrity of the grid. And you can expect some strong action from President Trump on this. He has the back of American ratepayers, both at the consumer level on businesses. So keep your eye on that. It's amazing in a bad way how much electricity is projected for the AI folks to use. And by the way, and this galls me, a significant amount of the electricity these AI centers are using now is servicing like ChatGPT users in places like India and China, which is, you know, we got to wrap our heads around that. So that's, I think that's going to be important. One, keep your eyes also on the critical mineral, rare earth space. We're seeing tremendous innovation in that space here in America in the wake of the weaponization of that set of materials from the Chinese. So we'll be talking over the coming months how that's unfolding. But keep doing what you're doing, brother. And we love the war room.

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Well, we look forward to what the Supreme Court says. What you and Jameson Greer and Scott Bessen have done in support of the president's magnificent architecture on trade and commercial relationships is nothing short of historic. And you can already see the benefits what exports up 30%, imports down 30%, trade deficit tightening, something you and I and others have worked on for many, many years. Dr. Navarre, where do people go to keep up with you on social media, particularly all your hits you're doing in media?

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Yeah, I did bury that lead by the way the lowest trade deficit, best gain since 2009. And remember Steve, that when the trade deficit falls, that gives us higher growth because we got more jobs and factories and all that stuff. PeterNavarro.com is the one stop shop that'll get you to all the social media we're doing. See, we're doing a lot of 60 second videos that we're putting out on X and Getter and True Social that really are capturing these thoughts about the individual issues, whether it's the ban on institutional investors or mortgage backed securities, whatever. And there's my substack, of course, Peter Navarro substack. And that's a good place to get your comments in.

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I repost, I repost your those videos because that reminds me of the Peter Navarro I know and love up close and personal because they actually see your personality. I put them up on Getter all the time. So keep them coming, they're fantastic. Dr. Navarro, thank you for taking time away today. I know you guys are busy out the White House. Thank you, sir.

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All right, my brother, you take care. My regards to Cameron.

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Thank you, sir. That's the producer of the kip kept Navarro in check. So Steve Cortez, coming off of your, that's a pretty good punch list of populous nationalist economic policies President Trump's forcing through the system, sir.

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Yeah, Amen. Absolutely. And you know, as usual, Dr. Navarro is correct there because tightening immigration controls, right, Stopping the illegals, phasing out the worker visas, it's not just the right policy for this country, for our national security, for our social cohesion, it's also an economic imperative. For example, illegals have been competing unlawfully, unjustly in the labor market against American workers for decades now. We see under President Trump rising real wages, I believe largely because two and a half million people have already left. Between those who have self deported and those who were forced, were arrested and punted out of this country, we've got to keep that going and accelerate that number. But Dr. Navarro is exactly correct when he talks about housing, the demand for housing. There's such an artificial demand by tens of millions of foreigners who don't belong here in the first place. The illegals. On top of that, far too many millions and millions who are here legally, but we don't need to be in this country. I would also add to that list health care. When you look at health care, I think a lot of Americans don't realize how many millions of illegals, how many millions of foreigners are, are getting taxpayer funded health care in this country. So if you're upset understandably about your insurance premiums going up in a very big way in this new year, realize a big part of that cost is for foreigners.

[A]

Steve86, I just heard a report over the weekend 86% of the Somalians are on Medicaid in Minnesota. It's outrageous what they've allowed to happen and destroy this for American citizens. Correct?

[B]

Yeah, correct. And think of how much easier we've got a lot of fiscal challenges in this country, right, because of decades of profligacy. But think of how much easier it would be to tackle those challenges if number one, we had a more productive, higher earning workforce here paying more taxes into the U S Treasury. But number two, most importantly, if we vastly brought down the expense side of the ledger, especially on health care because we're no longer paying for illegals who don't belong here in the first place. But on top of it are literally costing us billions and billions and over years trillions of dollars in health care. And you're exactly right. CIS has done such good work in that Somali community. Steve, what's even worse, it's not just what they cost us initially, it's that even after being here for 10 years, four out of five of them are still on public assistance, are still getting welfare after being in the United States for a decade. You know, so not only is unjust to America, to the American people, we cannot afford it. We can't afford this lunacy any longer. Thankfully the economy is getting better. But that will, that process will accelerate. It will accelerate dramatically as we accelerate deportations and make the incentives such that people self deport.

[A]

Where, where do they go to get your invest Cortez investigates all these videos you're doing and also I want them to go to the substack because this piece you've got today is great. So where do folks go?

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Thank you.

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Yes, please go to Cortez investigates.com Cortez with an S at the end. This is my newest article about the ruling class prioritizing foreigners. But everything's on there. The documentaries, the videos, the chalk talks, all of it. Cortez investigates.com on Twitter I'm at Cortez Steve. Thank you sir.

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Thank you Steve. Want to thank Dr. Navar for breaking away too. Bessant is chairing this rare earths, I think conference today to get to the bottom of all that. Hometitleock.com they got specially 14 days free that you can check out their 1 million dollar triple lock protection. Your home is not just your castle it's every dream you've ever had. Most importantly, it's 80 or 90% of your net worth if you're an American city, if you're lucky enough to own a home and President Trump's clearly trying to move heaven and earth so people can, particularly young people, got a shot of owning a home. Can't have first time home buyers be 40 years old. That's ridiculous. Hometitle lock.com promo code Steve, talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team. You got a 14 day free trial on checking out the 1 million dollar triple lock protection. Don't let every dream you've ever had in that home turn into your biggest nightmare. Don't let it happen to you. Pennies a day. Short commercial break Bob Weir takes us out Back in the war, minimum. Islamic jihadis are plotting against you. Why in the hell you think they're in Houston and in north of Dallas.

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They are working, working together to overthrow Western civilization.

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Sharia compounds which are areas governed by religious rules. We know who you are, we know what you are and we know what you're trying to accomplish. And it is not going to happen. In the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic, we purge.

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Any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas.

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They are not coming. They are already here. You are not here here properly and you're going to leave. On 3 March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas. The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another. We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it. Islam will never dominate the United States and by the grace of God, it will not dominate. As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?

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War Room Texas. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon starts right now.

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Well, technically it's going to start at 6pm Eastern Standard Time today. That's our opening for it. And you're going to want to see this Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, three days a week. As we start off leading up to the 3rd of March primary and we may expand it out to five days a week. I'm going to shift the flag down to Texas in February. We're going to be doing the show from there. We are maniacally focused on this, so stay tuned today. Join us for our first episode will be tonight, second episode tomorrow night. We're going to get we're going to explain it all to you. Make sure. You understand exactly what's going on with this invasion down in Texas and what it means by Sharia law. Want to know how Sharia law is turning out? Look at the Islamic Republic of Iran. The Persian people right now in the streets and I think thousands of them are dead. But that's what it's going to take to throw these guys out. Not sure.

[C]

Sure.

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It's just going to take an air raid. They need to own it. They brought it upon themselves. They need to own it and taking it down. And right now you're seeing what happens when Sharia law runs a country, particularly a great civilization like the Persians. Mike Lindell joins us. Mike, we've had a long and productive session this morning. A couple hours, covered everything. Right now people want to know about deals. They love what they heard from you on Friday and Saturday. What do you got for us today, sir?

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Promo code war my, my my pillow.com promo code were the most powerful promo code in the business. Mike, I don't want you to respond to this. I know you got to get back to work but I dealt over the weekend with folks about what's going on in Minneapolis and there's going to be a huge announcement I think today from Nick and from David Hoek something they're working on. This Somalia situation, the ripoff. It is a tragedy that a great state like Minnesota with great people that this has happened to them and that quite frankly so many people look the other way. And I think people are, I can tell from the war on proxy, people are very proud of the fact that you're prepared to step into the middle of this and sort this mess out. So I just wanted you to let you know that go answer some phones now and sell some mattresses. But you're looked at even more than ever as a patron here. This thing's a mess up there, man. It's unacceptable. It's totally unacceptable. Not just the Somalians that ripped us all. That's to be expected. I'm talking to the people that were involved in this and not just look the other way. You're going to see now people actively involved in it. What's going to happen and be exposed. I think over the next couple days is going to be so revolting that the American people are going to wake up at what goes on. Mike Lindell, thank you so much. Over at Birch Gold make sure if you go now qualifying purchase [e-mail] you get a signed edition from me. Special edition of the end of the Dollar Empire, a Patriots edition hardback signed by me for qualifying purchase. Go check it out now. Bob Weir and we're going to do Bob weir also at 5 o'.

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Clock.

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Bob Weir takes us out Charlie Kirk Snack Jack, so that after that, I'm back at 5pm Eastern Standard Time live. And then we're going to roll right into War Room, Texas. We'll see you back here at.

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