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Steve Bannon
This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human weird though, right? Yeah, I think so.
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Unidentified Guest 1
Look, I mean, here's what's weird about it him is that he knows you have to work together. But it is a strange thing as an individual human being, you know, he calls me the R word. He says, you know, he makes up things that I'm corrupt, like there's something seriously wrong with this guy.
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Eric Prince
And then you get a call that.
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Unidentified Guest 1
You know, we got to work together. That's what. And look, I'm probably guilty of that too, because I call them things. I just think I can probably back my. My comments up a little bit, I think. And this is where I am very hopeful for the President to make that call to tell me he will look into giving us back the cases, you know, partnering with them and reducing the numbers. I'm not going to say I'm grateful because you started this fire. You don't get credit for putting it out after you started it. But I am going to say, especially in these times, that they are working for a solution. And again, I won't pretend to look into their hearts. I think I know on this. I just care that they end up in the same place. Where I want to end up is quit hassling our citizens. Follow the Constitution, get these folks out of here, and make the folks who shot Alex and Renee accountable for what they did.
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Eric Prince
I don't think it's a pullback. It's a little bit of a change. You know, Bavino is very good, but he's a pretty out there kind of a guy. And in some cases that's good. Maybe it wasn't good here. Other cities to form groups they're calling ICE Watchers and that keep tabs on known and suspected DHS vehicles and then film and record encounters. Just as Alex Freddy was doing when he was killed by Border patrol agents right here on Saturday. Today I got the chance to ride along with ICE Watch volunteers on their patrol and learn about what they face when they encounter federal agents. Now, we're not going to show their faces to protect their identities. Our drivers or two individuals who came out with us this afternoon, they told us what they've seen over the past three months. What have your interactions been like when you have been around ICE or CBP grabbing people or out?
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Unidentified Guest 2
Yeah, it's pretty mixed. It can often be a really volatile, high tense, high tension experience, and it just kind of depends. Matchstick. If you want to jump in at any point, let me know. But we've seen them like a common move is Wrapping their arms around people's necks and like throwing them to the ground from the back. Sometimes they're just like, back up.
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Eric Prince
You know, you're saying, doing that to observers.
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Unidentified Guest 2
To observers, yeah.
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Steve Bannon
And sometimes they'll yell at you, back up. Yeah.
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Unidentified Guest 2
They're relatively forceful, even if they're not, like, physically forceful.
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Sam Faddis
Yeah.
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Unidentified Guest 2
But there's also been times where.
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Mike Howell
They.
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Unidentified Guest 2
Couldn'T care less about if we're there and aren't talking to us or just ignoring us.
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Unidentified Guest 3
Look, when, when, when J.D. vance said that government officials, that federal law enforcement have absolute immunity, a whole bunch of lawyers tissed him and said, oh, no, he misspoke. No, no, no. J.D. vance was telling us the practical reality, which is that because they control the Department of Justice and because Pam Bondi will never open up a criminal investigation of any shooting or any action by anyone in favor with Donald Trump. And fact, they pardoned the January six folks, they pardoned Donald Trump's friends. There is de facto absolute immunity for at least as long as Donald Trump is in office at the federal level. Now, there are things at the state level that Keith Ellison no doubt is exploring that the city of Minneapolis is no doubt exploring. And good for them, good for what they're doing. But we need to understand we are on our own. The federal government is not going to protect us. The federal government is not going to investigate wrongdoing against any protester, any peaceful advocate for democracy. You know, that is, that is why I say we're on our own.
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Unidentified Guest 2
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller wrote that administration officials are now evaluating why the CPB team in Minneapolis, quote, may not have been following protocol set for extra personnel sent to Minnesota for force protection.
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Steve Bannon
What does that mean?
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Unidentified Guest 2
That's a. Wow. Kyle, did you hear that?
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Eric Prince
Yes. I don't have any special insight on what that means. You know, it is the. Seems like at least a small backtracking, but, you know, it does not sound, I don't, I don't have anything smart to say about that, that's for sure.
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Unidentified Guest 2
But, but even if it's a tiny backtracking and from Miller, this is the point. This is from Stephen Miller.
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Steve Bannon
Right.
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Unidentified Guest 2
They don't get more draconian than Steve Miller. Just go back to his, you know, high school student council speeches of the world and the high school he chose to live in. The fact that we're getting a statement like that at 11 o' clock at night from Stephen Miller in the White House without knowing any background, what does that tell you about their resolve, the chaos of the moment or the uprising with the American people.
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Steve Bannon
What that tells me is that the.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Pressure that they're feeling.
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Steve Bannon
The pressure is on. The pressure is absolutely on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And that is exemplified by the fact that that statement was put out in Caroline Lovett's name, but came out in his.
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Unidentified Guest 2
Help me understand how the President of the United States is taking. Is changing his tune or tone when they're investigating Alex Preddy, who we watched be murdered essentially on loop this week since it happened. What is going on, Mark?
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Unidentified Guest 3
So when you know exactly what's going on. The state investigated Emmett Till, you know, the state investigated the black citizens of black Wall street in, you know, in the massacre, in the Tulsa massacre.
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Steve Bannon
Right.
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Unidentified Guest 3
We, we know what they're doing because this isn't new. The government is investigating the victims because they want to find a reason to say that he was asking for it, that the mother with a dog in her backseat and stuffed animals out of her. In her. In her glove compartment, that she was the aggressor, that. That the ICU nurse who was clearly trying to protect a woman who was being pepper sprayed and who was then thrown to the ground and was beaten, that he was the perpetrator. And we've seen this playbook before. It was a dark time in American history. And for those people who thought we had moved beyond that dark time and that the federal government, or was not was. Would no longer do this kind of thing in those instances of state government. Now the federal government, we haven't moved that far beyond. And yet there are court fights going on in all these places. And I'm happy, I'm proud to say my law firm and I were in those cases side by side with those states in every 24 of those jurisdictions, and that the Trump Department of Justice is over three. But we know when they can't win in court, they're going to resort to. To violence. We saw that on January 6th with this.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And we need to know going forward that there will be some rules. There needs to be an independent investigation. For goodness sakes, there has to be an investigation. If this happened on a police force, the officers, whether or not they committed anything wrong, would immediately be put on administrative leave and there would be an investigation. But I don't know who trust an investigation to be done by DHS when they're the ones calling this person an assassin or would be assassin, a domestic terrorist saying he was assaulted. The police. How can they be in charge of an independent investigation? Something's got to happen here.
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Steve Bannon
So, okay, so who else could conduct.
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Unidentified Guest 2
The investigation, then if it's not dhs.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think that's a good question within police bodies. You know, most police are not elected. Some sheriffs are elected. A lot of sheriffs are. But there are independent police organizations that review these things. And look, I'm not one saying the officers are guilty of anything criminal. They in all likelihood were trying to do their job. But in all likelihood, this is going to be a tragedy. I mean, it is a tragedy. I mean, I think the guns were prematurely drawn and prematurely fired after a gun had already left the scene. I think someone was shouting, gun, gun, gun. And they were worried that maybe the perpetrator had it when indeed one of their own agents had it. So it was a mistake. But if we don't say it was a mistake, if we say this is just jolly well and good, he was a terrorist, people aren't going to accept that. You want Minnesota to calm down, we have to show that there's a just and independent investigation here.
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Eric Prince
You know, Minnesota's in the, in the news a lot, but they don't, what they don't say is that Minnesota has low numbers because of the fact that we took thousands of hardened criminals out of Minnesota. So they had good crime numbers, believe it or not. And that's all working out. You know, we have Tom Holman there now. We put him in there. He's great. And they met with the governor, the mayor, everybody else, and we'll, we're going to de escalate a little bit.
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemy because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
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Eric Prince
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.
- [10:20]
Steve Bannon
You'Re not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go.
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Unidentified Guest 3
To share the big lie?
- [10:25]
Steve Bannon
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Unidentified Guest 3
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
- [10:42]
Stephen K. Bannon
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
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Steve Bannon
It's Wednesday 28th January at Yervalor 2026. Maga is not breaking over this. Of course we're, you know, everything's bending a little bit, but not going to break by a long shot. We're antifragile and we're resilient. Been through these before. We'll get this sorted. President Trump and just coming hot off the press because I think he's getting a belly full of it. Again, I turn to true social and I quote, this is from the President, surprisingly. Mayor Jacob Fry just stated that Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws, end quote. This is after having had a very good conversation with him. Could somebody in his inner sanctum please explain that this statement is a very serious violation of the law and he is playing with fire. All Cap, all Waltz and Fry have done is smack talk and say, hey, they're not going to, you know, no federal immigration laws in Minneapolis. That's a sanctuary city. Homans out there, we need to hold. It's very, it's quite simple in the fog of war, right? Just look through it. We have to hold the line. There can be no de escalation at all. You don't need to bring down the temperature, raise the temperature, put them under pressure. They're the ones that are cracking. They're fighting. The whole nation sees it. The polling's still there. The Washington Post said today, oh, Trump did so good on the border and closing the border, but he bit off Morgan Chu. He, he's the author of his own problem because he said he was going to deport everybody. And that's impossible. It's not impossible. It's going to happen. The Democratic Party business, the Red Green alliance business model is to flood the nation with the illegal aliens and just say, oh, it's too hard to get them out. It's too bad. Let's have them vote. Let's get them on welfare, let's do it all. It's not going to happen. That's why Lance the Boyle in Minneapolis fries. A weakling Waltz is a clown. We couldn't get better casting. You have a weakling and you have a clown. Remember Fry during the blm? No compromise with these guys. And Stephen Miller, let me be blunt. You can't send 300 custom and border and ICE and not have a whole of government approach. You have to have doj. You have to have tiger teams of prosecutors. I think they've had 12 prosecutors quit the Minneapolis office. That's fine. Nobody's forcing you to work. But surge other prosecutors, FBI, where are the pipe hitters? Where's Department of War? Where's an entire full, whole government approach? You can't put a handful of customers and borders and ICE agents there and let them be surrounded every night by domestic violent terrorists. This is inflection point. You blink now and you're Going to blink forever. You bend the knee now, you'll bend the knee forever. If we stand in the breach and say, screw you, we're fighting for the country, right? And I don't care how many people I got in the port, I don't care if you got. If the families are there and they're there illegally and we want to keep them together, guess what? You're going to have to round up some five year olds with their parents. But they're going home. And home ain't the United States. I don't care how long they've been here on Biden's watch. Law binding. That's not the point. They're here illegally. We can't afford it. African Americans, Hispanic American citizens, the white working class, their lives are being destroyed. Their education systems, their health care, their jobs are being taken, their wages are being driven down. They're American citizens. And illegal alien invaders are not American citizens. That's a bright line and somebody's got to be clarifying that because MAGA ain't backing down. We're not in the back down business. Erik Prince, Mike Howe. Next in the war room.
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Unidentified Guest 1
Here's your.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
It was yesterday and they're in their text each other that was picked up and their social media, they're calling it their Fallujah. They're pouring in every, like the chat scenes. Everybody went in for second Fallujah. That's what we made the film. You can't send. This is like we left troops in, in Iraq. You send them in again, you send them in a place, there's a couple hundred troops and then you leave them. It has to be a whole of government approach, a whole of government. This is a complicated situation and yes, we do want to handle it as humanely as possible, underline as possible. But they're all going. They're all going because once they know they're all going, they're going to leave themselves. You have to have resolve. This Is like the 300 are like the guys at Dinh Bien Phu, the Frenchies, put them in there. Or you deal with the North Vietnamese or that type of soft Vietnamese, you just deal with it. You can have. It doesn't work like that. This is what we did in Vietnam, this is what we did in Iraq. It can happen. And President Trump's getting a belly full of already he understands he's getting bad information. He just told Fry on Truth Social, yo, dude, you call me up, we have these good conversations, then you come out, you're not going to enforce immigration law. There's sanctuary. Say, Mr. President, fry is a decept. This is the type, the beta male that the communists feed off of. You got a whole city of beta males. They're too gutless to confront you in a conversation. No, no, Ms. President. This we're going to do there. They'll worm around and then he'll come out on, you know, on. On public radio and he'll talk smack. The buried lead that ain't so buried in President Trump's true social. You're playing with fire. All cap, exclamation point. You're playing with fire. Homan's out there. He's a safe pair of hands. Although I'm a Bavino guy. Bavina was fine. Bavina was in the middle of it. And you can't sit there later and say, you know, we looking at the techniques. Maybe the techniques are. And come on, man, you can't turn the investigation over these hyenas. Look what they did in the Black Lives Matter situation. Then you had jurors lying to get on the jury. Come on, grow up. Let's face rail. See what you see. We have lots of victories here. There's going to be lots of victories. And victory begets victory. They're in a row right now. Right? That can turn quickly. Mike, how big? Big Daily Mail story that we're abandoning all this because of your interview here today. It's far from it. The howls, the princes. We got Erik Prince next. The war room banning all of them. We got the President's back. Just saying you're getting bad information and some people are starting to blink. Hey, if you blink, that's fine. These are these defining moments. This is the Billy Bush moment on the campaign when they all want to wet themselves and wanted to run away. Hey, here's what I said. Here's what we do. We double and triple down. Screw them. The country doesn't give a crap about locker room talk. Screw them and drive to victory. And if you're too weak, get the frick out of the way. Mike Pence, you're going to send a letter. McConnell and Paul rank, get the hell out of the way. It's time now for resolve and focus and determination. Mike Howell, what do you got for us?
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Mike Howell
Look, I agree with 100%. You there? The President's going to make the right decision here. He's been given terrible advice by the pollsters, the consultants, the summer soldier, fake Republicans on Capitol Hill, the Mike Pence of the world who got us into this mess. And they had him basically try to approach walls and fray for a negotiation. And we talked about this yesterday. There's nothing to negotiate and fray and walls made that abundantly clear. They're trying to get Trump and Republicans to say the only people worth deporting are criminals. And then also, by the way, we won't even help you do that. So there's, there's nothing to negotiate there. The Negotiation was the 2024 election, when President Trump said, I'm going to carry out the biggest deportation operation in American history, bigger than Eisenhower. And we've crunched numbers on that. He's got a ways to go, but he can get there and he will get there if he stops listening to these feckless losers. I'll tell you what General Eisenhower would have done. He, in his own writings of his own border patrol that I've published about, would encircle the area and go and mop it up. No more onesie twosies like you've said. This needs to be whole of government. You establish the perimeter and you march inwards. Get guys like Erik Prince involved, people who know what they're doing, and surge, surge, surge. Do not de escalate just because the left has escalated. That's not how this works.
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Steve Bannon
Eric, let me bring you into the conversation with the mic, Eric. You've seen this before. I mean, you're one of the ones that thought through the whole situation, how we had to handle the worst days in Baghdad, right when, when Bush had gotten us in the same thing. You, you put American troops in there and then you forget about them and think they're going to handle everything. It doesn't work like that. History shows you it doesn't work like that. You actually presented a plan, I think nine months ago that they made sure the President never saw because you said, this day is coming. The convergence of the red green alliance. The day is coming that this is gonna happen and guess what? There's gonna be a stare down and they're waiting for us to back off, to de escalate. What's your, what was your plan and what do you think is, is that plan operative today to sort this mess out in, in Minneapolis, Sir.
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Eric Prince
Look, our plan was based on hitting significant numbers by the midterms, knowing that hard things in politics generally have a limited lifespan. Yes, it was, it was submitted properly through all the channels of dhs. It was ignored, sadly. But we kind of realized, having been around government contracting and around government entities before, they can do some things really well, but they can't. Flex and Bob and Weave and it's hard for them to innovate. And so we had a comprehensive plan that included a lot of open source available cell phone data to to figure out who is likely the illegal. Cross that with government database search to get you really good targeting information with lots of apprehension teams including motivating state and local law enforcement with a very considerable bounty program. It's much cheaper to pay bounties to officers on duty or off duty to bring in more legals than it is to even hire more full time ICE agents, especially when these people know their communities, they know the neighborhoods and they know who doesn't belong. And then you get to the administrative process, the magistrate process, where we were going to use some basically large stadiums to do the administrative hearings since they're all entitled to some sort of legal process to do that at industrial scale to be able to hit the hundreds of thousands and or tens of millions per year that the President really needs to hit to make good on his, on his campaign commitment. Sadly, that has not been done. There's one thing, I mean now that they look, they've attracted all the attention in Minneapolis. Probably not the place I would have chosen in terms of a hard target with extremely unfriendly local governments, other places to show big successes. But the fact is treasury can do a lot more by making it impossible for any illegal SEO to be banking and to rent houses to them. And you up the penalties or you up the. Even if you, if you went to banks and said you can either seize these bank accounts that you've identified as illegal or we're going to fine the hell out of you. You'll even get bank compliance officers instead.
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Steve Bannon
Of don't find them, shut them down. Hey, they debunked. They were, they was very simple for them to debunk all the Maga and all the J6. You go to them and say, hey, real simple. Here's, here's the accounts. You shut them down. Exactly. You shut them down or we're putting you out of business. You're shutting you down real quickly because I'm gonna hold you in in hell. You got two things. You have the illegal alien invaders, right? You got the criminals as trouser house that you're going to triage those. But it's just not the criminals. And you got to get to the businesses. But you've also got the insurrectionists. Now you do have a, you know, part of this is the credentialed class, right that always wants to stick their mouth and everything. These Democratic party activists but that's, that's not the problem here. The problem is hardcore black bloc antifa insurrectionist revolutionaries that are out there. It's like Fallujah, you know, they're the Chechens all come in. Don't you just go and round them all up, Round them all up, take them to a high school gym, take the credential class, the beta males and all the mouthy Karens and send them home. Let them go home with their whistles. But the rest of the guys right there, you just have drumhead, you pull guys in, we just have drum head trials and boom, we just send them to the, we send them to the clink right away under emergency measures.
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Eric Prince
Certainly an option. I would. This is a perfect opportunity to expose Cuban subversion that they've been been organizing in America for decades. You even see it in that big signal chat when some of those people are talking about escaping to Cuba. There's a reason for that. The Cuban Communist Party has been actively infiltrating and screwing up our society for decades. It's time to pay them back. Pull the string on those threads and you can certainly, you know, if they're, if they're, if they're going to try people for FARA violations in the last administration, there's a lot of ways to try them as foreign agents acting on behalf of foreign communist government here in America.
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Steve Bannon
I love that. Eric Prince. Hang on for a second, Mike. How. Hang on, we're going to be joining some other people where you get Eric's thoughts also about the gathering storm around Tehran. Let me be blunt. Tehran ain't the problem. The group over there. And hey, maybe there's 5,000 dead, maybe there's 10,000 dead. I have no earthy idea. But remember, that's the same crowd or it's the children of the same crowd that threw us out 50 years ago. They're Muslims. They brought on Islamic, a Muslim Islamic republic themselves. It's their issue to deal with. We should cut them off. We should cut the mullahs off of every as we've had to bring them to their knees economically so they can't trade with the world. You sanction them. You also stop the oil, which we've done in Venezuela so perfectly. You stop the oil from going outside the Straits of Hormuz to the North Arabian Sea, across the Indian Ocean past Diego Garcia to the Straits of Malacca, South China Sea to China. You cut them off of all cash. But the focus in the National Security Council in the next couple of days should be on the revolution by these insurrectionists you have on the streets of Minneapolis because guess what, we have Communists there, we have Marxists there, we have jihadists there that are trying to take down the American republic from inside the American republic. Short commercial break Back with Hal and Prince. Is that house Prince not bad. Back in a moment.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
So, Mike, how the president has being the president of all the people he's had conversations with with the governor, with Walls and the Mayor Fry, he has sent Homan a safe pair of hands, Tom Homan, who's hard as nails, Ford deployed him to Minneapolis. I know they have other people. I think the FBI's sending people, DOJ, treasury, all of it. So now they're taking a whole of government approach on the ground with boots on the ground. Bovino's out, is going back to El Centro, but we'll deal with that later. And Walls after president's tried to not DS try to accommodate, try to maybe take the temperature down. These guys do what they always do because they're Marxists, they're the enemies of this country or they would not have allowed this to happen. And President Trump's true social right there is saying, hey, I want to remind Fry who just said publicly that they're not going to enforce immigration laws in the city of Minneapolis. In other words, he's a sanctuary city. And the president of the United States can go shove it right as the commander in chief and the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. As Article 2 tells us of the Constitution, President Trump says you're playing with fire and you're breaking the law. There we are, right there. Thank you, Denver. Mike, how what is your recommendation? If you got a couple of minutes in the Oval today to have a cup of coffee with the president, what would be your recommendation to President Trump?
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Mike Howell
I'd say, Mr. President, give a national address where you're announcing that we are now shifting into phase two of your campaign promise to carry out the largest deportation operation in history, which you will meet and you have to and you're going to do it because your central feature is keeping your promises. So let's help you keep that one. You're going to acknowledge that two things kind of got us into these low numbers. One is the DHS mass communications without mass deportations. They've needlessly been doing Democrat propaganda for them without falling through on getting big numbers. That that comes to an end. Issue number two is a lot of people said we're going to do the worst of the worst. First, criminals Right. Republicans took that and the pollsters, the consultants and the Democrats to mean that's all you're allowed to do. Well, you say that stage is over. We got enough criminals. We are opening the aperture of enforcement broadly to everybody. We don't care if you're a criminal. We care if you're here illegally. We leave the criminals for other law enforcement entities. And so you say, I'm going to be maniacally focused on the numbers getting commas in the deportation numbers to get them into the millions going off like a jackpot machine in Las Vegas. And to accomplish that, this is going to be a whole of government exercise. I'm going to creatively apply every lever the federal government has. I'm going to charge every military aged male illegal alien in the United States for failing to register for the draft and give them an option to go to prison for five years or take a flight home. I'm going to bring in Eric Prince to do things like the bounty program for people to rat them out or if they others don't, if they want to leave. We're going to get you paid to leave. I'm going to send OSHA inspectors in to, you know, look at work site conditions that may employ illegals, by the way, also corporate industry. Your amnesty for not enforcing work site is over. We're going in. So tell them to get out before we get there. Finally, politically, I understand that there was a jailbreak of RINO senators and congressmen. I'm not going to tolerate that. Congressman Mike Lawler, your endorsement is revoked for pushing amnesty at this moment, trying to take advantage of this time and join with the Democrats. And I'm going to go down the line and say no, America first is what we promised and damn well we're going to implement it. And I don't care if CNN doesn't like it. I don't care if the rhinos don't like it. We got a country to save and damn it, I'm going to do it.
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Steve Bannon
Mike, how work and people follow you Social media and other websites, Sir.
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Mike Howell
Yep. I'm on X at MHOW tweets and oversight projects at it's your government.
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Steve Bannon
Mikel thank you. Thank you, sir, for putting clarity into this. Erik Prince.
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Eric Prince
Thoughts?
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Steve Bannon
Where do we go from here? People have, I think the president, if he had gotten access to your ideas months ago, we wouldn't be in this situation. But we are where we are. We had tough situations in Iraq, we had tough situations in Afghanistan. Other places we work through it. We can work through this you see, the President already is having a belly full. He's tried to, you know, meet the moment, he's tried to accommodate and listen to Fry and listen to Walz. But you've seen these guys before, you know how the Marxists are. They're going to tell you everything to your face you want to hear. We'll work together, we'll do everything. And then when he gets on, you know, public radio or does his press conference, he says, hey, we're not going to enforce any immigration laws. We just don't do that. We're a sanctuary city. And the President goes, you're playing with fire, you're dead. Damn right he's playing with fire. And Fry. And these guys need to be taught a lesson. And they need to be taught a lesson with the steely resolve that President Trump is known for. Erik Prince.
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Eric Prince
Waltz and Fry are using the shit's method, show interest, then stall. And they figure if they placate him, tell him what he wants to hear, he's not going to hold him to it. The other thing I would add to what Mike was saying, all his good points, is to go after the banking of anyone that's here illegally. You can sic the compliance officers of all these banks, instead of them going after American citizens, they can actually debank and they can be incentivized to do so that the bank either pays an enormous fine for banking illegals or they seize those accounts, alert dhs. And the money part of that money that's been here accumulated while working illegally can be repatriated to those people once they're back in the country, after they pay an exit tax for leaving the United States. These are the things, the whole of government things that the President must do if he's going to hit the kind of numbers that he campaigned on, that we need to do to preserve our Republic. The Democrats are all about flooding.
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Steve Bannon
Look, I'm a big.
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Eric Prince
They admitted that's their business model those to steal elections, those are their voters. This if, if this doesn't happen again, this gets solved at the ballot box or it gets solved with a cartridge box. Yeah, this is the law and order, rule of law way to solve this. And if not, it's going to get solved other ways that people cannot even imagine.
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Steve Bannon
CIS reports they did the back of the envelope. Over 2 million illegal alien invaders self deported. They went home because things got too tough in places like LA because of President Trump's surge. We can, we can get not just numbers officially with bounties and others, but unofficially they're going to start leaving when life gets too tough, right? When they can't, you know, leech off the United States or America and they have to go, you know, they're going to look at an alternative. Let me just get out of here, right? It's better than going to jail.
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Eric Prince
They can't rent, you know, babe, they can't rent.
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Steve Bannon
Go ahead.
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Eric Prince
When they can't rent housing, vehicles, employment, when they can't bank, it's going to start drying up anywhere that they actually have sanctuary. Whether the Dems like it or not. There is a lot. I mean, look in, in the Middle east, they take immigration extremely seriously. You have to show proof of residency for pretty much anything you do, whether you're renting a car, renting a house, an apartment, a dwelling, bank accounts, all of that. That's very, very basic rule of law stuff. Do that and we win this.
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Steve Bannon
The CCP has I think a 15 or 17% implosion in birth rate. They're not. You can't go there. You can't, you can't go there and say, hey, I think I want to be a citizen. It doesn't work like that. And they're in Japan. Hang over a second. Because I got time constraints. Sam, give me two minutes on this because you're an expert in the red green alliance. Then I've got to get to Iran and Persia while I got Prince Eric's got to bounce for a meeting. Give me two minutes on what you're seeing on this insurrection. What is the advice of Sam Faddis to the President?
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Sam Faddis
I would second everything that you have said and everybody else has said. Right. This would be a whole of government approach. You shouldn't be able to have a job, have a bank account, buy a car, etc. The other thing I would throw into the mix is this ICE Watch and the affiliated groups nationwide. These groups exist to impede and obstruct federal officers in the enforcement of a law. That is a conspiracy, that is a felony, that's punishable by up to 20 years in jail. So there shouldn't be anybody free who is organizing teams, vectoring them in on ice, teaching people how to de arrest as they call it, which is physically intervene in this process. All of that is a federal, that those are all federal crimes. So everybody that thinks it's cool to set this up, organize it, train these people, they ought to all be in custody and this whole apparatus ought to be shut down. When you're talking about us earlier, just leaving these ICE guys to handle this one Confrontation at a time on the street. That, that resonates with me. Why are we doing that? There are in many Minneapolis at any one point in time something like this is by the Left's own admission, 4 to 5,000 trained people on the street in an organized fashion confronting ice. Wait, why are we allowing that to exist? Every person who's part of that apparatus.
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Steve Bannon
Amen.
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Sam Faddis
Ought to be in custody.
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Steve Bannon
Erik Prince this is my point about the high school gym pick up. From what Faddis is saying, this is part of the problem. It's not just the massive illegal aliens, but it's the mayor and the governor that won't send the police department that has the. They have the National Guard doing a cultural revolution humiliation exercise to put them in the. In the sanitation department yellow vests and make them hand out coffee and donuts to the Ice Watch people. That's done on purpose to humiliate them and to show the Ice Watch people that you're senior here, you're superior right there. They should have rolled up Waltz. They should roll up, go in his office, kick down the door and drag him out. Eric, your thoughts on what Sam Faddes.
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Eric Prince
Just said in the settling of the American West. The Pinkerton detective agency had six times the amount of armed personnel as the U.S. army. There is all kinds of precedents for deputization of Pinkerton's or other people working with and on the behest of federal law enforcement. Lots of options for innovative law enforcement solutions to amplify the numbers of competent trained people they could put in the field to overmatch. It's sad.
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Unidentified Guest 1
Any.
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Eric Prince
Any resort to firearms in these cases is because they're not overmatched. So if you have three to five thousand trained crazy leftist activists, fine. Bring 5,000 properly trained law enforcement military veteran professionals and kindly induce them to better behavior as deputized agents of the federal law enforcement. This is not rocket science.
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Steve Bannon
Sam. If we did your program, if the President followed your lead and did that program, the whole of government, how long do you think it would be before we break the back of the black box? Black bloc antifa professional insurrectionists or the overwhelming majority of these ICE Watch people? Sir.
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Sam Faddis
Almost overnight, Steve. I mean look, these guys operate on unencrypted open channels, communicating, identifying the folks who are collecting the data, vectoring in these teams and doing all this stuff is not hard.
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Steve Bannon
Right?
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Sam Faddis
All you have to do is is flip that switch. It is no longer. You are no longer to allowed to engage with impunity in a conspiracy to obstruct and impede federal law enforcement, which is black letter law. Right. There's no ambiguity here. So you thought this was cool. We now own we seized your funds, we seized your computers and you guys are all in jail and the comms are gone and the whole structure is gone. Now will that still leave some crazy people running around the street? Yes, obviously. But we will transform this thing overnight from you.
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Steve Bannon
Amen.
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Sam Faddis
Having to pick these guys off individually.
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Eric Prince
Amen.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, guys, hang on because we're going to go from the streets of Minneapolis to the streets of Tehran and we're going to talk about the logistics set up for this assault and the logic of it, or maybe the illogic of it. We'll be back in a moment. I want to tell you, remember, it's not the price of gold, although we started you in this program at about a thousand bucks. Gold is now surging to almost 50, $300 an ounce. Silver is at 112 on the weakness of the dollar. Gosh, wherever heard that before. Oh yeah, that's right, the end of the dollar empire. Go to Birch Gold right now. Promo code Bannon. Start reading up. Get smart. But most importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team, his magisterial hit the other day we talked about the central banks of what's happening here. We'll get you up to speed on the knowledge you need. It ain't the price, it's the process. Get there today. Talk to Philip Patrick's team at Birchgold Short commercial break Sam Faddis, Erik Prince on the other side.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, the focus has to be on the streets of Minneapolis because we have an armed insurrection challenging the Trump administration in the entire American Republic because this is a combination of Marxist jihadists. They're fighting to keep illegal alien invaders, including the hardened criminals, here in your country because it's their business model. They can't win elections unless they have illegal aliens voting or at least on some sort of role that you don't check the IDs. It's quite open what the scam is. Jesse Kelly magnificently said, hey, the Democrat price probably got 20% of the oligarchs. You know, they get the wealthy, the credentialed class and then this kind of proletariat underneath that they put on welfare, right. That has no shot. So it's against the working class, Hispanics, blacks, white working class and the middle class. That's the two sides here. So what side are you on, Eric Prince? But we're spending a lot of Time and an effort sending a carrier strike group to the North Arabian Sea. As the audience knows, I was there for the first rodeo that didn't turn out particularly well. A lot of changes since 1979 and 1980. Sam Faddis knows he spent his career over there. You spent so much time there. We're pulling together an armada, although I think it's uae and I think he may be in the Saudis, definitely uae, saying, hey, look, you can't use our airspace. We don't want any part of this right now. Number one, why are we bringing all this hardware? And number two, what is the strategic logic? Because the people in screw it down tighter economically and we haven't gone all the way because still letting the oil get out and the CCP give the mullahs cash because they are partnered with them. And I realized there's maybe 5, 10, they're saying 30,000. Every day the number goes up. Right. It's, it's, it's harder to get real numbers here than it is in Ukraine. About the Ukraine military, how many they've lost. But it's, it's you. You take if you decapitate your problem. These people brought this revolution on themselves. These people are Muslims. These people have brought on an Islamic republic. I understand it didn't work out. We told them that at the time it wasn't going to work out. But it is what it is. It's their responsibility to take care of it. Erik Prince, your thoughts on this?
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Eric Prince
There's a reason Iran does not have an Independence Day. Because they haven't been conquered or colonized. They haven't had to get independence really since they were. They were conquered by Alexander the Great 2,300 years ago. The Zagros Mountains, the natural bowl features the geography not great for invasion. I don't really know what the US hopes to achieve by a big military show of force if they smash a bunch of targets inside of Iran. The question is, who actually takes over? Iran has multi layers of governance. Sure. The top layer is an awful, putrid one of a bunch of crazy mullahs not loved by anyone, in fact hated. But the fact is, if you remove that, who actually takes over? It's not going to be the Reza Pahlavi, the son of the Shah. There is no other natural leader. The protesters in the streets, yeah, some have been killed. Don't know if it's 30,000 or if it's 3,000 or if it's 300. Any number of that is terrible, but not our problem. It is not the primary responsibility United States. And I do not want US Foreign policy dictated by what is good for, for Tel Aviv. And I feel like that the Iran issue keeps getting dragged back to the top of the focus. I'm with you. Let's deal with the communists in our own cities and clean that rot out before we worry about Iran. Exactly 8,000 miles away from the United States.
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Steve Bannon
Now, President Trump, President Trump has said that they've reached out to him and they're trying to figure something out. President Trump has said this also, Matt Boyle. I think it's jpl, that great polling that does a lot for the Daily Mail. I think they did one that Breitbart reported exclusively this morning. I'll get Boyle on here tomorrow about the polling. And it's like, I don't know, it's 50% of the American people say fine. Or, you know, fine. I think it's combined below 50. But the second question was, if there was one American casualty, what would your belief be? And it drops down to like 16% people. Theoretically, yeah, theoretically. They're bad guys, etc. But go ahead, sir.
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Eric Prince
And that's the thing. If you're gonna put, if you're, you're, you're making this big flex of putting all these aircraft and weapon systems over Iran. The last time we did that, yes, apparently none were shot down. If the enemy knows you're coming that much in advance, again, when the US Was bombing the Serbs, they even managed with a lucky shot to shoot down an F117. Became a huge POW and technology transfer problem. Is it worth rolling that dice to bomb Iran again? If there's desire to support Iranian patriots, to take back part of the country and to, and to chew up the mullahs that way, fine. Other people can do that. It does not have to be the responsibility of the United States.
- [46:43]
Steve Bannon
The two expeditionary efforts under President Trump have been magnificent. That is no question. I mean, and I think if people knew the scale of these and the complexity. The end of the 12 Day War was magnificent. The operation in Venezuela, Eric, which, which, you know, because you've, you've thought that problem through, was pretty magnificent, was it not? Although we did come very close, as everybody knows now. Helicopter, Very close.
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Eric Prince
It came extremely close. It comes down to the lead pilot flying the lead Chinook, the guy who planned the mission as he's on the way in, right cyclic and collective and throttle. He's flying the helicopter. His right leg takes three rounds, smashes the bone, can't run the pedals. He can't turn the helicopter over to his co pilot because his controls have been shot up. So the co pilot runs the pedals. The pilot in charge still running the cyclic and collective. He doesn't crash, he doesn't freak out. He gets the guys into the LZ. And so instead of a chinook down scenario with 30 dead, they finished the mission. So they were, they were about 30 seconds and one a cockpit full of balls that got that mission done. That was a very, very close dice throw.
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Steve Bannon
Eric. We gotta bounce. Just send us to the site for the, for the phone and I'll, I'll make the pitch next. I know you gotta take off for a meeting. Go to Unplug, send us to the website. What's the website?
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Eric Prince
War Room. Unplug.com War Room. We've got some phenomenal new studies that have just come out showing the very high end, let's say CIA adjacent, penetration firms that have not hacked or connect cannot access the unplugged phone. So get yours today.
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Steve Bannon
Gotta run. Unplugged.com promo code. Warm this. Keep the bad guys out. This is the phone. Erik Prince. Thank you, brother. Talk to you later. Fattest is going to stick around. We're going to get his perspective. Perspective. He spent his career over there. Raymond Ibrahim is also going to join us live in the war room. Next. This is an iHeart podcast.
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Unidentified Guest 2
Guaranteed Human.