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James Rosen
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Tuesday, the 10th of February, year of our Lord 2026. It is publication day for James Rosen's second volume of his magisterial biography of Associate Justice Scalia. I can't more strongly recommend a book. This is monumental. Get it. And get one for a young person in your life out today in bookstores everywhere, also on Amazon. James, you wrote this piece in the New York Times. I'm shocked they published it. It is the Deep. It's the secret history of the Deep State. Essentially the plumbers, Watergate all came about because the plumbers were called plumbers to stop the leaks coming out of the White House. But specifically, they thought Kissinger, I think, was leaking to the New York Times, to his buddies on the New York Times. It was to check the National Security Council. As you're walking through, we've got one of the most revered chief of Naval Operations. And folks, the chief of Naval operations is the head, is the uniformed head of the Navy, Tom Moore. And they're actually talking about Nixon, wants to charge him with felonies and prosecute him. And the counterargument from Mitchell is, well, we can't do that because all the secret operations we've got around the world will come out, and we don't want to do that. Is that what was the conundrum for President Nixon?
James Rosen
Partly. Partly as well. And Nixon can be heard on the tape saying this. He did not want to as much as he wanted to punish the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas Moore, for running a spy ring against the National Security Council under Nixon and Kissinger for a year in wartime, where they had this young enlisted man, this Navy stenographer, Yeoman Charles Radford, pilfering these documents. As much as Nixon wanted to Punish all involved. Not only did he recognize that it would jeopardize some very sensitive operations around the world, but, but. And including the. The attempt to negotiate the end to the Vietnam War, but he also felt that he did not want to contribute to the vilification of the armed forces in a time when, as they were returning From Vietnam, many GIs were jeered as baby killers. Nixon did not want to contribute to the vilification of the armed forces. And even after Watergate broke and the Republicans on the Senate Watergate Committee, Howard Baker, came to him and said, Mr. President, the plumbers broke into Watergate. They broke into Ellsberg psychiatrist's office. But they also uncovered this situation where the Joint Chiefs were spying on you for a year in wartime. Let us publicize this. This will help save your presidency. And Nixon, to his credit, said no. He said the armed forces are more important. And he knew by that point anyway that his presidency was doomed. Before the break, I was talking about how I was the first researcher to hear the tape of those meetings, of Nixon being informed of all this in 1971, when they came out in 2000. And I published them in the Atlantic and then in my book in the early 2000s. I am now with this article that appeared in Sunday's New York Times, which you're kind to help me promote. I'm now the first researcher to obtain another very important piece of evidence concerning this military spy ring and Nixon's responses to it. This is seven pages of ex President Nixon's grand jury testimony in 1975 that were held classified, that were restricted even from the grand jurors. They were so incendiary. And I obtained them and published them in this. In this article in the New York Times on Sunday. You can go to my X feed at James Rosen TV and you'll find it. These seven pages Nixon disclosed, and this was the first time we knew this, that he met Y Radford on an airplane and he talked to the grand jurors about how. What a brilliant young man he was and how he spoke several languages and had a photographic memory, but he was emotionally unstable and why they made the decision to not punish him, although they did wiretap him. I also reveal in this article for the first time, the names and identities of two other people who were wiretapped along with Radford, a State Department official and a Defense Department official. That's never been disclosed before. And when we think about the scene of President Nixon on an airplane shaking hands with Yeoman Radford, the mole for the military who's been stealing from the National Security Council for a year right under the noses of Nixon and Kissinger, it brings to mind for many Americans the famous or infamous photograph of Aldra his, the Soviet spy shaking the hand of President Truman in San Francisco in 1945. If you want to know how high up the chain of command the mole got, the answer is the very top, the commander in chief. That's one of the revelations from these seven declassified pages from President ex President Nixon's grand jury testimony revealed here in this New York Times article for the first time.
Stephen K. Bannon
So Grayson Moe, I want to make sure we put it out and everybody in the war and posse read it. Let's be forced multipliers and push this out before I let you go, James, because I know you gotta run. You know, you're chief Washington correspondent, Newsmax, you spent years at Fox. You're one of the most, particularly on the right, one of the most revered newsmen in D.C. and in the country. You agree that the title of this piece should have been the Secret History of the Deep State. Are you a conspiracy theorist? Do you actually think after your research in this that there is a deep state?
James Rosen
So what we call the deep state is really a label for what I say in this article is a hidden and enduring feature of the American political system, which is that when responsible stakeholders are excluded from their sphere of interest, they will almost as a biological reflex, respond aggressively. And in this article published in the New York Times, I say that Ex President Nixon, 50 years ago in a small Coast Guard station in San Clemente, facing off against eight special prosecutors and two members of the Washington grand jury and a stenographer, proved that this beast existed and in fact, that he, despite having been guilty in Watergate, had been a victim of the deep state. And in the article, we make the connection to President Trump and our own time, and we talk about the similarities and differences between these two men and the two signal differences that I mentioned. And this closes the article is number one, that President Trump, since he returned to power, has displayed a ruthlessness in the purging of the of the perceived enemy within the government that President Nixon, despite similar inclinations, could never conjure, even when faced with criminal insubordination like we've been discussing. And the second big difference is that Mr. Trump appears on track, at least at this time, to finish his second term.
Stephen K. Bannon
James Rosen, where do they get you on social media and particularly where did they get the book Today? Today is game day. We want everybody that possibly can to go buy it, read it and give it as a gift to somebody. Where do people go? Sir?
James Rosen
Thank you, Steve. You can go. You can find me on Newsmax and Newsmax 2, our streaming service, but also on X, I'm at James Rosen TV. That's @James Rosentv. And you can buy my new book Scalia Supreme Court years 1986 to 2001, covering the first half of his monumental legacy on the Supreme Court, on Amazon or Barnes and Noble, anywhere. Fine. Books are sold. Anywhere you buy books, you'll find it today.
Stephen K. Bannon
Keep doing the great job over Newsmax. You guys are one of the leaders in news and appreciate you and Chris Ruddy and the entire team over there. Thank you, James, for taking time.
James Rosen
Thank you, Steve. Thank you so much.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
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John Fredericks
No.
Stephen K. Bannon
John Frederick. He's out in Iowa. We're trying to track him down. Rosemary. Jinx. First off, Rosemary, why is this so important? Everything is up on Capitol Hill right now. We got all these fights going on. You're huge. About the SAVE Act. Tell me about the fights we have on about the voting and the immigration and the flooding the zone with illegal alien labor. Ma'.
James Rosen
Am.
Stephen K. Bannon
So the two big fights on Capitol Hill right now are about the Save America act, which is coming to the House floor tomorrow for a vote. It is going to pass and then it goes to the Senate where it will either die a long, painful death or this Senate Republicans will agree to move to the talking filibuster under the current Senate rules, in which case they can pass it. And that will require Democrats to go to the floor of the Senate and debate actually do their jobs to explain to the American people why they oppose voter ID and proof of US Citizenship to vote in our elections. The second big fight is about DHS funding. As you know, the Senate, at the White House's request, separated out the Department of Homeland Security from a larger appropriations bill that funded several other agencies. So now because Democrats don't want to fund immigration enforcement, they are negotiating over just the Department of Homeland Security funding bill. There's a lot of misinformation out there about this because, you know, again, as you know, Congress passed the one big beautiful bill last year that had 170 some billion dollars for border control and ICE in it. However, all of that money is designated so it, it is for new ICE and Border Patrol officers, new equipment, full stop.
Full stop. Full stop. You are breaking some news here, ma', am, because we've heard the exact opposite of people. I got a minute here. I want you to take the entire minute. I'm going to hold you through the break. We were told that, hey, we don't have to worry about ice. It's just FEMA and TSA and other aspects of it. You say au contraire.
Absolutely, au contraire. And every Democrat knows this. They know they are defunding. But immigration enforcement, that money that was in the one big beautiful bill cannot be repurposed outside of the specific lane that it was created for. So, for example, there's a lot of money in there for detention beds. Detention beds you can repurpose and say, okay, instead of paying for next year's detention beds with that money, we're going to pay for this year's detention beds because the Democrats refused to fund it. You cannot do that with personnel. So even though there's all this money for new officers and agents, you can't pay the current ones. We don't have the funding in the Department of Homeland Security to pay the current operating costs. So every Border Patrol agent, every ICE agent who was on the job, you know, for the last however many years is not going to get paid if the Department of Homeland Security shuts down on Friday.
Hang on for one second. Rosemary Jenks is here from the Account Immigration Accountability Project. We're taking a short commercial break. We're going to come back with more explosive insights. Rosemary Jenks, Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, you can get the patrons in the now more than ever, you ought to understand, or you have to understand, you have to have a relationship with Birch Gold about not the price of gold or silver, but the Process that drives the value. Why are central banks buying gold at record rates? Why is crypto crashing? Because crypto is looked to be a hedge just like gold, it turns out. I don't think that's the case. I think the case and I think people are making that case every day. They don't have the liquidity. So the way you do that is go to birchgold.com, promo code Bannon, Enter the dollar empire. We called this shot and let me be blunt, we were the only ones that called it on the day that Biden came into office, right? They said this was going to happen, that they're going to print money and drive down the value of the dollar. And you lost 25%, I think 26% of purchasing power of the dollar over those years. The BRICS nations got it. The central banks of the Brics nations got it. With Birch Gold, we put out a seven part series. It's all free. Go to birchgold.com, promo code Bannon. The end of the dollar empire. You can now get a Patriots edition with an appropriate investment. But talk to Philip Patrick and the team about that. I know you're going to want the hard copy. We're coming out with the 8th edition online here shortly. As soon as I approve the graphics and all the math, et cetera. But gold, I think was 1,100 bucks at the time, around 5,000 a day. That was a called shot because we told you exactly how it was going to happen. So today, get there, get with Philip Patrick and the team and find out why gold has been a hedge for 5,000 years of mankind's history. All this is indefructibly linked right now. We're in the middle of this fight, folks, and a lot of people want your attention diverted, I would actually say with this invasion of the country and this fight over immigration. Rosemary's gonna jump in here and then John Fredericks is gonna join us from Iowa. Rosemary's gonna talk to us also about Texas. But essentially the business model of the elites in this country. I hope you understand what's going on and I think from what we've done at the world to explain to you, we are, because I did work at Goldman for many years and I had Goldman Sachs and I had my own firm. We right now are a highly leveraged bet on artificial intelligence and other aspects of technology. Let me repeat this. We're a highly leveraged. You're like you're doing a leveraged buyout, but we're a highly leveraged bet with $39 trillion in debt. And that's only the surface of it. It doesn't talk about all the contingent liabilities. That gets us over. I don't know, if you look at the net present value, 100, $150 trillion of obligations. When you do the net present value, we are highly leveraged, running a $2 trillion deficit every year. And as we now know, it's become very plain from Minneapolis that you're paying for a lot of this crap that's going to actually destroy you. We're gonna have the Chinese on in a few minutes to talk about how you're paying for it over in Asia with some of your top venture capital firms, how you're paying for your own destruction, your country's own destruction. This negotiation is very important. And you can tell Eric Schmidt came back from his time with the president. They went down. He watched the super bowl with the president. He came back. He's been a bull, but Lindsey Graham kind of got religion. It's the lead story on the Hill today. And if Denver could put it up and Grayson Moe could push it out. I need everybody to read that story in the Hill, the lead story about how the Republican Senate is getting very aggressive now. But I've said from the beginning I was uncomfortable, particularly we don't know the proposal that the Republican Senate answered to the Democrats. And you would think if it was as hardcore as it needs to be, which it should have been. Like when the Germans asked the 101st Airborne at Bastogne to surrender, they gave him a two word answer. And the second part was you. There shouldn't have been any proposal. There's nothing there to negotiate. But Rosemary, I just want to, because you're one of the most detailed people I know. How do you know that the original ICE funding is not included in the $170 billion package? And do we actually, the Democrats, actually, I believe, and I've said this from the beginning, have leverage here, ma'.
Mike Lindell
Am.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, you can read the actual one big beautiful bill and you see that every line of funding is dedicated to a specific purpose. So detention beds, new ICE officers, new border patrol officers, new equipment. So that means that if the Department of Homeland Security is defunded as of Friday night, then if you're an ICE officer who has worked there for 20 years, you're not going to get paid. If you're one of the new ICE officers who has been hired on the money of the one big beautiful bill, there's money there for You. But standard operations that were ongoing when that bill passed are not going to be funded with a couple of exceptions like detention beds, because that money is more fungible. So there, there is a possibility of repurposing some of the money, but most of it cannot be.
But this makes perfect, this makes perfect sense because 170 billion, and we went crazy about the scale of it. This was argued. You need a new logistics chain. They're building up hubs like in Maricopa County. You need all this logistics. You need all these new people. Because Biden allowed 15 to 25 invaders into the country, is going to cost a fortune to get them out. But in the regular appropriations process, the DHS budget was part of it. The traditional DHS budget, which has 260,000 people in FEMA and TSA and all the security operations we've got and the joint ventures they've got with DNI and FBI and all that, including ICE and Border Patrol, Customs and Border is in the original funding bill that funds the original. The 170 billion is for new stuff going forward. Hang on for one second, Rosemary. I'll come back to you. John Frederickson in Iowa. John, you're taking the bus around Iowa so that your wife, I think smartly said, get out of D.C. you got to get back in touch with the base of this country. What are you hearing specifically on immigration, on border, on mass deportations, on this big fight in the House and the Senate to codify these voting requirements? I mean, everything that is hot right now on Capitol Hill, where does, where does the folks in Iowa stand?
John Fredericks
Steve, you know, it's amazing if there's any state in the country that is dependent on illegal workers, it's Iowa because of the farms and the farmers here that need the labor when harvest season comes. To a person, here's what they're telling me. It's pretty amazing. They're saying, look, back in the 70s, we had legislation in the state House, in the state house and the governor and the state Senate. And we said, look, we're going to let temporary workers in. We got to find a way to do this. We're going to embrace them when they come in. They're here for a certain period of time. They're going to get paid well and then they leave. Those who want to stay can apply for legal status. It's going to take time going to assimilate. We'll embrace them. That's what Iowans have done since the 70s. So what they're telling me, to a person we've got 20 million illegals here. We want them out. Trump said, came to the caucuses, said, I'm going to get them out. They want them out. They said, we have figured out a legal and right way to get the immigration workers into the country when we need them, pay them well, and then they leave and go back home with some money in their pocket. Everybody who wins, they just don't stay here illegally. And here's the other thing. You know, the people that are saying, look the other way. Those that have hired illegals here, well, they've, they're not following the law because they're not doing E Verify. And the people that are doing it the right way are saying, wait a minute, I'm at a disadvantage because I'm following the law and I got to pay higher wages than those that are breaking the law and letting these illegals work and paying them low wages and under the table. So if there's any state that should be saying, hey, no, we don't want to deport anybody, keep them all here, let's get amnesty. You know, we need them on the farms. Every Iowan farmer I've talked to said the exact opposite. We figured out how to do it the right way. We follow the law, and it has been very stable for our state. We never have a problem during harvest season doing it the right way. So, look, the bottom line is those that are saying, well, E verify doesn't matter, and the illegals, we need them or the economy is going to collapse. These are the same chamber of Commerce Rhinos that have been saying the same thing for 50 years. They want cheap labor. I'm saying, well, do you want amnesty? No, I don't want amnesty. Well, if you don't want to do anything and you don't want to deport them and you want to keep paying them and then let them go on welfare, then you fore amnesty. We get them out or we don't. And I was right now taking a hard stand of any state. It should be the opposite. But this is truly America right here. You're in the heartland. And they want President Trump to follow through on his promise to get rid of these 20 million illegals that came in under Joe, Joe Biden. Criminals are the priority, but then they got to get every everybody out. I was kind of shocked by that because I expected to hear the opposite.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, that's on the reason that you want to get out there. I think it's one of the powers of taking the bus out there. Last question. We got about, we got about 90 seconds. All these issues about voter integrity, what you're seeing in Georgia, which you and I with Garland Favorito covered extensively, is that, is that an issue for the folks in Iowa? Do they think these, these, you know, the save all these acts we have to do to get the illegal aliens out so they can vote voter id, clean up the rolls. No. Of these phony mail in ballots, where do people out there stand on that, sir?
John Fredericks
They want the SAVE act and they want John Thune and the Republicans to grow a pair and get rid of the 60 vape vote filibuster cloture rule. That's man made. They know as soon as the Democrats get power, that thing's gone in the second hour. They want to get rid of that. They want the SAVE Act. And the view here is, look, if sovereign Americans are voting, if you have voter ID and you're here illegally, the Democrats will never win another national election. They all know that. I mean to a person here, they know if only legal Americans vote that are citizens, the Democrats are done. That's why they want the SAVE Act. They don't understand why Republicans will not allow this thing to go through. Just get rid of the filibuster. They've got 50 votes in order to pass it. And then you ensure a fair, not a selection.
Stephen K. Bannon
John, 30 seconds. Where do people go to get you on the bus? Social media show all of it.
John Fredericks
Just go to my website, John. John Fredericksradio.com John Fredericksradio.com Follow me on social media at JFRADIO. Show the bus tours there. Also vote in our Iowa straw poll. We're getting some really surprising results in. You can cast your boat there, swim right on our website, John Fredericksradio.com live in Iowa where it's pretty cold air.
Stephen K. Bannon
Steve, we can tell sir Ann had a great idea. Get you out of the house, get you out, you were underfoot. Get you out to Iowa and the people. Okay, Rosemary Jenks on the other side. We'll talk about what John Frederick just told us from the heartland of the country. Also, my Chinese colleagues join us about anti ccp. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, Rosemary Jenks is with us. Rosemary, before we get to, before we get to, I want to talk about H1BS in a moment. Particularly being down here in Texas. People are outraged about what's going on. Just the call to action one more time. The call to action of the next couple of days because I happen to think this thing may go, they may get a temporary cr takes a couple weeks because The Senate wants to leave on Thursday and go to Munich for the Munich security Conference. So they want. They're not gonna be able to get this done in time. That's my call, but we've gotta get on these folks now. What's your call to action over at the Immigration Accountability Project?
Well, I would say do something that may be a little bit uncomfortable and call Democrat senators and tell them that you want the Department of Homeland Security funded, you want immigration enforcement intact. Because Schumer and Jeffries are blaming Americans. They're saying that they are doing what Americans want them to do. Let's make sure they know Americans do not want this. They do not want FEMA and Coast Guard and TSA and ICE and CBP defunded. Let's get that done. Let's also pass the SAVE Act. Tell your senators, your Republican senators that it's time to, at the very least, go to the talking filibuster and move the Save America act after the House passes it on Wednesday. These two pieces of legislation are absolutely critical. We have to save our elections, and we have to keep immigration enforcement going and get President Trump to his mass deportations.
If I can make recommendations, I think OSAF down in Georgia, if you're going to call a Democrat, Ossoff in Georgia. Was it Slotkin in Michigan and Fetterman in Pennsylvania, I would start there. Right. A lot of them are going to hang up the phone. I think Ossoff, particularly his staff, will take the phone call and Fetterman will also. I think Fetterman's on the bubble. Anyway. Okay, we're down here in Texas and we got an amazing show today on War Room Texas. We're down here in Texas on this Sharia law on the primary the 3rd of March. We're covering, obviously, the Senate race very, very closely. But let me be brutally frank. As intense, and I've never seen it more intense, we gave a permission structure to talk about Sharia law and that we're having conferences every day. There's meetings. I'm meeting grassroots people, county chairman. This is the number one topic where it was not even talked about weeks ago. However, right behind that, almost in every meeting, people come up to me and say, steve, you got to help us out. We got to get Rosemary Jenks and we've got to make these H1B visas a priority. It's destroying Texas. It's going to destroy the country. What do you have to say to the folks in Texas, Rosemary Jenks?
Well, I will tell you, we are working every single day to try to convince members of Congress that we must deal with the H1B issue. This is ruining the future generations of America. If our young people cannot get jobs because of the OPT to H1B pipeline, we have destroyed an entire generation. And we, we cannot as a nation do that. We must show some loyalty to our own children and get these folks the ability to get a job. So we are doing everything we can possibly do to get an H1B reform package, elimination package, moratorium package, something that can actually get some attention in Congress. I hope that we will have news on that very soon. And of course, I will bring it to the war room posse first. So, you know, we need all the support we can get in getting this done, but we're working very hard on it.
No, we got it. We got to stop the H1B program. I don't know if it can be reformed. Well, I'm strong believer. We just got to force it through and punch it through to eliminate it. It's destroying not just future generations. It's destroying so many people work so hard to get into the tech area. Anyway, Rosemary, where do people go right now to get all the information about your amazing startup?
Iapaction.com is our website where we have a congressional ranking system that ranks 535 members of Congress. You can see exactly what they're doing on immigration and what they're not doing. We're on X at IA Project. So those are the best places to reach us right now. All of our social media is linked from the website iapaction.com.
Thank you, ma'.
Mike Lindell
Am.
Stephen K. Bannon
Look forward to having you back in the next couple days. When I get you on war room Texas, people want to see you over there.
Thank you, Forrest.
And neighbor from the new federal state. Forrest, I want to start with you. Peter Schweitz has got a book that became a New York Times number one bestseller, the Invisible Coup. Because of the Chinese Communist Party active warfare against the United States of America. You've been on for years telling people this is the CCP in unrestricted warfare in a unlimited war against the United States of America and our citizens, sir.
Forrest Chin
Yes, absolutely. CCP using this unrestricted warfare against the US for a long time. And Mao school was able to tell us even before Peter like a decade ago tell us. It's not a theory. It's actually proven by the Mao's intelligence and his deep understanding of Chinese Communist Party. The thing I want to point out here is Peter mentioned about Chinese people, but actually most of the Chinese immigrant. It's innocent But CCP does exploit the immigrants and use them to attack and infiltrate the US. But the most danger and damage caused is so called Chinese elite. The Chinese elite was able to work with the US elite together to damage, to infiltrate to corrupt the US system. That's the real danger and the damage caused by the ccp. For example, the enterprise like HNA and the individuals like Jack Ma and Shan, Beijing, all those individuals, Wu Zheng, all those peoples, they are the so called Chinese elites. They are working closely with CCP and to damage undermining the US system. That's what really happens. And most of the immigrant or Chinese law, Beijing, they want to get a better living condition. A lot of Chinese people like myself, a lot of people, they gave their children a backup and option to live in the US Actually a lot of families will tell their children the reason they were chosen to born in the US is because they want their children to have a better life. They believe the US system is much better than the CCP controlled system. That's the reason. So on that point I think I have a little bit difference than Peter. But the most point, I think he's right. The US elite does do a lot of damage to the US system.
Stephen K. Bannon
So let me talk Eva, I've got about four or five minutes. I want to go through the Wall Street Journal talking about elites. The Wall Street Journal has got an article came over the weekend. I'll make sure the audience sees it. Talks about the decoupling, right? Or as Cleo Pascal says, the de parasiting. They want to decouple from the American economy. They put a trillion dollars into Chinese economy. This is the CCP to get away from the foreign devils, right? Whether it's agriculture, all this. But at the same time, you guys at the new Federal Space put up a video. I don't know if we've got it that could play, but it's shocking to me. It's an ipo, I think that's happening in Hong Kong. And you're basically making the case that every investment bank, commercial bank, consulting firms, everything's going to be sucked into this and is basically going to be an advocate for the Chinese Communist Party. Walk me through this ipo because if they're going to decouple, I'm a huge believer in decoupling. We have to decouple and we can't let these side pocket backdoor deals really suck us in even deeper. Walk me through what's happening in this initial public offering in Hong Kong that's getting Western institutions to support it.
Eva Fu
I mean this is a mechanism and this is this, this article shed a light on one company. It's called Syngenta. Syngenta. A lot of people thinking it's a Switzerland company, it's the largest, one of the largest agro tech business in the world. But unfortunately it was bought out completely by the CCP state owned company, it's called Sinocan which was actually designated as the CCP military company under Trump administration. Guess what? When Biden came into power they reversed that direction direction. So but anyway so now it's a CCP military company and putting on the massive Hong Kong IPO. We're talking about 10 billion. They throw a number just out there. So think about this mechanism. It's binding of the global elites. That's what Forrest just mentioned about the US elites. You know the, the world elites and the Chinese elites and they are including Wall street bankers. We're talking about Goldman Sachs, ubs, cicc, the Chinese investment capital Corporation and possibly they also talk of Morgan Stanley and hsbc. So you see the familiar names jumps out at you. So they reinforce the circle of interest. All of the person have a cut in the deal including law firms, consultants, insurance, you name it. And they all have vested interest in the regime's success. And on top of it, guess why the CCP selecting those firms and and lock out the others. This is what this is a political decision for the ccp. Access and privilege based on loyalty. So how do they get loyalty? Compromise. We're so familiar with the Epstein case, right now the entire world is consumed, especially the west is consumed by the Epstein file. Guess who did that in the behind the scene. That's the ccp. They want you to focusing on the AI fakes, those bots, troll farms, paid influencers to keep you picking at the wound. But when you dive into your own wound and the CCP's crying disappear in noises. Guess what happened on Epstein island is industrialized by the Chinese Communist party in China. Okay, so this is a normal life already that's very very tragic because there are countless victims and those elites knew as long as CCP is in power, their secrets are safe. That's why they not only have vested interest in keep the regime, keep giving the regime capital just like the IPOs and helping them, but they also have the vested interest to making sure their secrets what you see, it's just tip of iceberg in the there's tons of them buried by the.
Stephen K. Bannon
So how do we. So how can we stop? If this is a way to suck everybody in right and use compromise to do it. How can we stop this ipo? How can we stop. We've talked about cutting off American capital we've talked about cutting off American companies. The CCP as the Wall Street Journal said is paying a trillion dollars to basically decouple from us at the same time that we're getting closer bonds with them. How can we right now try to stop this?
Eva Fu
I mean this is exactly what the trump administration the second 2.0 is doing codify. You have lawmakers, you have medias so this is great what you've done on wharam and you've did so much that's why the CCP scared of you and Trump the most. That's why I have to congratulation on your your case being jobbed. This is definitely a defeat for the CCP and and we need to do more of it. Having new federal state of China have miles school out of MDC will be a great victory for bring down the CCP and save and rescue America and make America again. So so decouple don't send the money through law, through executive orders or codify into law and expose those CCP operatives and separating this Chinese people and and the CCP because the Chinese people are your best ally and we'll find the same thing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Forrest, real quickly, where do people go to new federal state? You're putting up content all the time on Getter and other places. Where do folks go right now?
Forrest Chin
Yeah, we can go to gather on the NFIC speaks NFIC TV and also on the X NFSE speak.
Stephen K. Bannon
I've put this up on my Getter feed. You got to understand this a massive IPO I think would you say $10 billion in Hong Kong and sucking in every American investment bank, commercial bank, all the big law firms, all the big consulting firms on a company that you think on the surface is Swiss. It's not at all. It's agriculture and technology by the CCP and the PLA guys. Ava, where they get you on new Federal State. We got about 30 seconds.
Eva Fu
Okay, you can find me on getter and S7G I L and also visit our website it's nfscofficial.com yeah, you're putting.
Stephen K. Bannon
Up a newscast every day. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate you.
Eva Fu
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right there. They're spending a trillion dollars to decouple from the United States of America. A trillion dollars. And what are we doing? Our elites, the venture capitalists, the hedge funds, the investment banks, all of them are kowtowing more than ever this is one of the reasons we got this problem. Hometitlelock.com promo code Steve, go check it out. You get 14 days, two weeks free. One million dollar triple lock protection. You'll understand they're protecting you from not just AI and cyber, but rogue lawyers, accountants and rogue family members. Hometitle lock.com promo code Steve, here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Want to thank. I got Glenn's story here. Now, you've been all over the state. You've been down the Rio Grande Valley, our favorite part of the state. You've been all over talking to people and carrying the message. You've helped us launch Warham Texas or actually your wife who does all the work. You're the. You're the.
Glenn
You're the brains and the muscle.
Stephen K. Bannon
And the muscle. You're the pretty face. Yeah, right. Patriot Mobile. You've been down in Mar A Lago. I heard that you brought the house down in Mar A Lago. You got to tell me about. You got to tell me that story.
Glenn
No, I didn't bring the house down. That was Mike Rowe. But I have to tell you a funny story, though. We're sitting there and Mike Rose doing a presentation, he just starts to talk and my phone rings and I'm on the front row, I'm sitting at the table.
Stephen K. Bannon
You don't have it on silent?
Glenn
No, no, no, no. I never. Silent, you know, in case Jenny calls.
Stephen K. Bannon
Or my boss mobile.
Jake Seawolf
You don't.
Stephen K. Bannon
Silent.
Glenn
Yeah. And my phone rings and I'm like scrambling to put it out.
James Rosen
Right.
Glenn
And he goes, of course. You know, in that voice. Of course. It's the Patriot Mobile guys. That phone rings precisely when I step on stage.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's another. It's another branding opportunity.
Glenn
Yeah. You know, he's such a good guy, you know, we want them to do well. We just want.
Stephen K. Bannon
You were down at. Oh, because he's. He's with the. The competitor. That's right.
Glenn
Yeah. They're not a competitor really. They just do.
Forrest Chin
They're.
Stephen K. Bannon
They're pre prepaid. You're the best phone service in the world.
Glenn
Amen.
Stephen K. Bannon
Tell me about. You're down with Lindell and the president. Tell me about Michael. And how's Michael? Michael and I was going to follow us. How's he doing?
Glenn
Oh, he's smoking hot. You know, the God is moving through this man. You think about it, two or three decades ago, he was in the middle of a binge, if you will, and then.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, he's a degenerate gambler and a drug addict. And when God Took his life. Now he runs one of the greatest companies in this country. And running for governor. Hell, he's already got waltz out of the deal. He's got Amy Klobuchar out of the Senate. They're so nervous in Minnesota to have Mike Lindell have his hands on the documents to put them all in prison for 50 years. They're taking Klobuchar out of a safe Senate seat and having her run against him.
Glenn
Yeah, it looks like they might take all three. You know, the Senate, the House and as well as the governorship. Look, yeah, I spent a couple of days with Mike. He's on fire. God is just moving through him and he had a gentleman pray for him. Came up and Mike just loved it in and or accepted it. And you know what's really beautiful? He's on fire. He's going to take this thing. I know he is. I, you know he is.
Stephen K. Bannon
So we're down here and we're very focused on this primary. We had, we had the attorney general on last night. We had Kinpax. All this new polling we're going around and having Jenny's putting together these huge conferences. We've got more county chairman on today. Just fantastic. Talk to me about Patriot Mobile and I go around the state. Everybody loves it. Why do people have to make the switch today? What is special about Patriot Mobile? You got the best service. You got a call in center a 972 Patriot. You got folks with the east Texas accent that helps you. But the core of this company is its values.
Glenn
Hey look, I'll tell this with every to anyone you know, when you invite God into your life. I'm not perfect. Thank God Jesus came onto this world. Walked and saved. Died on. Died on the cross to take away our sins. But the real beauty of it is when you invite him into your business, what happens is all of a sudden the talk around the cooler changes. It's no longer what about this? How can we help others? Right. That align with him and so that really makes a change. And then number two really is this is a device. Everybody has one. We happen to use this device to fund our activity. Right. We want to see this country stay the way it is and get better. Back to like it was in the 80s. The 70s. The 60s. And my dad was a World War II vet. He fought with the greatest generation this country has ever seen that set up the most prosperity all the way to the 80s, right. Until we had a little bit in 70s. But I want it back to that. I want it for my Children. Not for me. I'm fine. I'll be fine. But it's the children and the grandchildren in this country. So, look, I encourage you to come to Join Patriot Mobile 972patriot or patriot mobile.com forward/ban, and tell them you found us on Bannon. And last thing, I want to say hi to my friend Trent. He runs. He works within the Seattle Seahawks, and they're actually really good guys. I just want to say that they're incredible guys. They are Patriots.
Stephen K. Bannon
They had a heck of a. They had a heck of a. A heck of a day on Sunday.
Glenn
They did.
Stephen K. Bannon
Last question. People ask me all the time, is it, do you have to go to a store? How complicated People want to switch over their phone service today? How complicated is it? This is big rigmarole roll. They got to go to a store and do everything. What do they actually have to do right now?
Glenn
That's easy. Call 972 Patriot. Ask, say, I heard about you on Bannon. I want to switch today. It can take anywhere from a couple of minutes to about 10 minutes. It's really that short? Yeah, it's easy.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's not going to the phone store and taking.
Glenn
No, no, no.
Stephen K. Bannon
And losing your number.
Glenn
Yeah. As Scott used to say, you walk into a phone store and by the time you want to walk out, you want to shut your head in the car door because it's a pain now. It's so simple because these modern phones, you basically back them up. Get your new. You transition it. Oh, that's when you're switching phones. When you have your own phone, it's so easy. You just will send you a QR code. You scan the QR code, it starts the back and work. It's simple.
Stephen K. Bannon
Simple. 972 Patriot. You've got a customer service team, all American citizens with East Texas accents.
James Rosen
Correct?
Glenn
Well, I say we're rednecks, you know, instead of East Texas hillbillies. Hey, I do want to say, this is a great. We're sitting there at dinner or lunch with Jason Aldean. He goes, how good does it work? How well does it work? I said, it really did. And you know Stephen, he's our EVP at gsd. He gets stuff done. He already had it teed up. He said, here, just scan this from this QR code. He scans it, and boom, the phone was live with Patriot Mobile. He was like, oh, my goodness. And it worked just like that. So my point really being is it's so simple today. It's not like the olden days we have a full complement of phones, Samsung, Apple, whatever you want.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Eva Fu
Guaranteed Human.
Date: February 10, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Notable Guests: James Rosen, Rosemary Jenks, John Fredericks, Forrest Chin, Eva Fu, Glenn (Patriot Mobile)
This episode of War Room covers several interconnected themes central to U.S. politics and culture:
The tone remains fiery and urgent, focusing on threats to American sovereignty—whether from within, via bureaucratic overreach, or outside, via foreign influence and border issues.
James Rosen discusses revelations from Nixon-era tapes and documents, highlighting how the military spied on the Nixon White House (00:49–07:28).
Revelations:
Notable Quote:
“President Nixon, despite similar inclinations [to Trump], could never conjure [Trump’s] ruthlessness in purging the perceived enemy within government.” (James Rosen, 07:10)
Notable Quote:
“If the Department of Homeland Security is defunded…then every ICE agent who was on the job…is not going to get paid if DHS shuts down on Friday.” (Rosemary Jenks, 14:37)
Notable Quote:
“We figured out a legal and right way to get the immigration workers into the country when we need them, pay them well, and then they leave…[but] we want [illegal aliens] out.” (John Fredericks, 22:31)
“They want the SAVE Act. They want voter ID. If only legal Americans vote…Democrats are done.” (John Fredericks, 25:24)
Forrest Chin and Eva Fu discuss CCP’s “unrestricted warfare” against the U.S., focusing on a major Hong Kong IPO (Syngenta/Sinochem, a PLA-linked company) and how Western investment banks enable CCP influence (32:16–38:33).
Countermeasures:
Bannon on U.S. Economic Strategy:
“We are a highly-leveraged bet on artificial intelligence and other aspects of technology…with $39 trillion in debt.” (17:07)
Forrest Chin:
“The most danger…is so-called Chinese elite. The Chinese elite [work] with the U.S. elite together to…undermine the U.S. system.” (32:59)
Eva Fu (: Epstein comparison):
“What happened on Epstein island is industrialized by the Chinese Communist Party in China.” (37:19)
| Timestamp | Segment Topic / Speaker | |:----------:|:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:49–07:28| Nixon, Watergate, Deep State—Interview with James Rosen | | 11:33–14:46| Immigration funding & voting, Rosemary Jenks | | 21:48–25:24| Grassroots Iowa on immigration & worker enforcement, John Fredericks | | 27:46–28:46| Rosemary Jenks—Call to Action for DHS and SAVE Act | | 29:55–31:21| H1B Visa impact discussed, Rosemary Jenks | | 32:16–38:33| CCP economic infiltration, Wall Street, elite compromise—Forrest Chin & Eva Fu | | 41:23–46:41| Patriot Mobile and fusing values with business—Glenn |
This episode is a wide-ranging, urgently toned call to action underscoring host Steve Bannon’s core concerns—American sovereignty, fighting the “deep state,” securing borders, and countering both internal and external threats to what guests see as American values. With historical context from Watergate to present, live reporting from the heartland, and warnings about global elites’ entanglements with foreign adversaries, the episode is as much a bulletin of activism as it is a news analysis show.