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Steve Bannon
US and Iranian negotiating teams are meeting today for another round of high stake talks in Geneva, Switzerland. Now, during his State of the Union address, President Trump had said he'd yet to hear Iranians promise that their country
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Pesach Walicki
would never have a nuclear weapon.
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Mike Lindell
Though hours before that speech, Iran's foreign
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Steve Bannon
minister posted a message online saying that Tehran will never seek to develop one. Secretary of State Marco Rubio talked about today's meetings with Caribbean leaders. And after that meeting, this is what some of what he said.
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Marco Rubio
Well, I think tomorrow Steve and Jared will be there. I think they're on their way there now, actually. And the president was very clear last night that he always prefers diplomacy. But I want you to understand and everyone should know that Iran poses a very great threat to the United States and has for a very long time. They are in possession, first and foremost. After their nuclear program was obliterated, they were told not to try to restart it. And here they are, you can see them always trying to rebuild elements of it. They're not right now, but they're trying to get to the point where they ultimately can. The other thing I would point you to, however, is that Iran possesses a very large number of ballistic missiles, particularly short range ballistic missiles that threaten the United States and our bases in the region and our partners in the region and all of our bases in the uae, Qatar, in Bahrain. And they also possess naval assets that threaten shipping and try to threaten the U.S. navy. So I want everybody to understand that beyond just a nuclear program program, they possess these conventional weapons that are solely designed to attack America and attack Americans if they so choose to do so. These things have to be addressed.
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Podcast Host/Announcer
It felt to us today that, you know, a moment ago all of the nuclear capability was obliterated and now they're a week away from making a bomb. It felt a lot like the run up to Iraq when the terms about what Iraq was doing and the threat it posed to us just kept escalating and escalating and escalating.
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Steve Bannon
It is that same pattern and that some of those statements are exaggerated in terms of that they're going to have an ICBM that can hit the United States. So that's the concern here. And yet we have these talks that are going on in Geneva. They just ended this afternoon. There's positive news reports coming out of this. You have the Iranian foreign minister and the foreign minister of Oman, who've been pushing, saying there can be a deal here, saying they went very well. And one U.S. official at least told Axios that it was the talks were positive. And there's talks about maybe a meeting next week to continue this. The cautionary note is that there were talks going on last year when the US Bombed Iran and the US could bomb again.
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Mike Lindell
Trump really doesn't care about Congress. He's all gas and no brakes. And I've said to you many times, I think the most important story in the world is that he can do whatever he wants with the most powerful military the world has ever seen, and that includes striking eight countries already this year. He's already struck Iran without congressional approval, without the support of the American public. So it seems very clear that he wants to hit Iran, and he's trying to build a rationale behind it. We hear, you know, Iran's full of bad guys. Iran killed protesters. Iran potentially has nukes. It's all building a case in support of war. And I think it's important to underscore he has forever war going on right now. I mean, it's almost entirely unchecked when it comes to using our military, whether it's in Iran striking another boat off the coast of Venezuela or continuing to deploy troops domestically. This is a really, really important point for Congress to show if they're even paying attention and they have any kind of spine whatsoever, because I think the State of the Union was like a checkbox. Like, you know, he maybe said, okay, I'm just going to make my case here. And he thinks that's going to give him a blank check because the table is set. And I think he's going to hit Iran sometime soon.
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Podcast Host/Announcer
I mean, just in the way that they're trying to do with tariffs. What is the likelihood or what is the talk within the White House about trying to declare an emergency? The Washington Post is reporting about that memo. Is that something from your reporting the White House would seriously, the president would seriously consider.
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White House Insider
I have no reporting that Suzy Wiles, his Chief of staff, or Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair or others at the top echelons of the White House want to move forward with such an effort again. They want to focus elsewhere on actual substantive issues in charge. That is the issue at play, Kurt Olson, who is the conspiracy theorist that has, you know, was pushed forward Fulton county, right, the criminal investigation through the FBI. And Cash Patel, he is working as a special government employee. Donald Trump has him essentially as his, quote, election integrity czar. And so that is the issue here for people like Suzy Wiles is the fact that Donald Trump can turn to people like Kurt Olson, can turn to Cleita Mitchell. If Donald Trump wants this, he can move forward. And that's where this executive order that we, along with our colleague Jake Traylor reporting on, is a very tempered executive order because it's just focused on voter id, something that generally the public could get behind.
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Podcast Host/Announcer
Suzy Wiles being an effective Catcher in the Rye here. That's basically the role she's playing, trying to keep things off the President's desk because. Because once he sees them, once he has that conversation, right.
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White House Insider
I'm told Steve Bannon is directly passing to a very close aide to the President documents, articles that essentially about our past stolen elections that have been rigged and about things that he should be looking at because this is an issue that he wants to be front and center in voters minds that those are the documents and articles that are making their way to the President. And we know how he operates. He simmers on these things, he posts about them and they make their way into State of the Union addresses here. And ultimately Cash Patel still exists at the FBI. Tulsi Gabbard still exists at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence here. So as long as Donald Trump has those types of allies in there and wants these things to move forward, there is no reason to believe that others within the White House, even the Chief of Staff, could stop him from moving forward.
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Mike Lindell
Is that
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Steve Bannon
this is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Roy Guo
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul,
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Trita Parsi
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
It's Thursday 26th February. Your Lord 2026 explosive story in the Washington Post about the president potentially calling a national emergency, about the upcoming election. And about, as John Solomon has been alluding to all week, revelations of the Chinese Communist Party's direct involvement in the 2020 election. And names like Peter Tickton and others working on an executive order, helping Kurt Olson with an executive order. We're going to get to that in the bottom of the hour. Also, Neal McCabe has new reporting on the situation in Cuba. The Cuban government has just come out and accused the folks in the speedboat, four of whom are dead and six are wounded, of being counter revolutionaries. They list out their arms, et cetera, and get to the White House with McKay. But first, the path to war. I have Trita Parsi, Rabbi Walicki and Kurt Mills. I wanna start with Trita. Trita, you came on the show last week and you argued to get this thing moving forward. You actually recommended we can't do the Ayatollah or the Persians way of negotiating kind of indirect and passing notes. And Geneva might change that. The one things I think we do know, I believe there's been a follow on meeting scheduled for Vienna for Witkoff and Jared Kushner on Monday. And also I think there's some discussion about the Fifth Fleet, or what remains of the Fifth Fleet has been pulled out of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. What happened in Geneva today. Are we on a path to actually get a deal? And President Trump has laid out a marker in his State of the Union and saying they cannot have possibly a nuclear weapon now or forever. Are we on the path to a negotiated solution and peace, or are we going to go down the path of at least some coercive diplomacy?
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Roy Guo
Sir?
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Trita Parsi
So we don't have all the details yet, of course, just some press reporting. But by all accounts, it appears to have been a positive meeting, but not yet a breakthrough. Some of these issues are tough. The positions of the two sides are still from the opening position that they've been very far away from each other. So any expectation that there would be a quick breakthrough is unrealistic. But it appears that there is commitment from both sides to move forward and they've made some progress. And then to your first point, they have shifted towards some direct talks between the two sides instead of this thing in which the Omanis are in the middle. But that's just one out of many things that needs to get fixed in order to get this process right. One thing I think is positive is that the president has said that he wants to hear the Iranians say clearly in a completely undeniable way that they will not pursue nuclear weapons. They will not have it. Now, they've said that several times, but now they're repeating it in a very clear way. It is apparently in the proposal that they sent to the US and they're doing it to show essentially this is what the president wants. Well, it's not a problem. It's given. Now, when it comes to some of the more substantive things, of course, that's going to be much, much more tricky.
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Steve Bannon
When you talk about their upfront saying that we won't have a nuclear weapon is that without the United States taking off any of the sanctions that they have today? Because wouldn't that be what you're talking about? If that's the case, and it was in the COVID letter of the memo, on the first page of the memo, wouldn't that be a massive give for the Iranians, for the Ayatollah?
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Trita Parsi
I don't think it is. I think Trump finds it as such, and I think that's totally fine. But bottom line is the Iranians have constantly said that they're not pursuing nuclear weapons. So the negotiations have not been about them giving up nuclear weapons that they don't have. It's about making sure that they don't have a pathway towards building one by restricting their program, making sure that there's certain things that they don't have, certain things that they don't do that they don't am too large of a stockpile of enriched uranium, for instance, which is the material that you need for a bomb, inspections that are as intrusive as possible just to make sure that all of their pathways to a bomb are prevented. If Trump can get this done, and I actually believe that he can, if the focus remains on this issue, if the focus then goes off to missiles or other things, the bans that are coming from the Israelis, et cetera, then this thing can very quickly go off rail. And then, unfortunately, we will likely have a war.
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Steve Bannon
When you say likely have a war, do you think that'll just be President Trump trying to do some course of diplomacy to get the more rational part of the Iranian government back to the table? Or do you think it devolves into something where we go down a path? This thing spreads pretty quickly.
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Trita Parsi
I don't think the president's intention is to do something that spreads in any way, shape or form. I think it's quite clear that he wants to have clean, quick, glorious victories, but I don't see that happening in this situation. The Iranians will very likely respond the Part of the reason why we have so many assets in the region right now, because they have made it clear that they will respond. And I think the escalatory risk here is just so massive that it would be very dangerous to go down that path. I see it as a lose, lose situation. Yes, undoubtedly the United States is the far more powerful party here, but it doesn't mean that the Iranians cannot inflict tremendous amount of damage onto the United States, which at the end of the day would cause this whole thing to end up becoming a losing thing for Donald Trump as well. So I think the best thing is to avoid it. And the fact that these talks are continuing seem to be getting more serious is in and of itself a positive sign.
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Steve Bannon
What about there is an element in the US Media and the US Maga, part of the media that says you can't trust the Iranians, you can't trust the Persians. They may say one thing, but they'll do another. How do you respond to that?
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Trita Parsi
Bottom line is none of these sides trust the other. The Iranians don't trust the U.S. either, and they have their reasons. And the U.S. of course, has its reason not to trust Iranians. That's why you need a deal in which you have verification as a very integral part of the deal. That's also why you need to make sure that a lot of things are not given up front in return for things that are given later on by the other side. And it's part of the reason the Iranians probably will not accept that the sanctions relief will come a year from now or something like that. While expected to give a lot of things on the nuclear front, up front, neither side should do that because the trust simply doesn't exist. And if we try to design a deal along those lines, it simply won't work. But verification is absolutely essential in all of this. That's the thing that can be used to overcome the legitimate mistrust that exists on both sides.
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Steve Bannon
Jared, the architect of the Abraham Accords, he and Witkoff have at least gotten as far as we've gotten with the Board of Peace in Gaza. Wyckoff's been very involved, as Jared somewhat in the Ukraine situation. On a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being great, where do you rate our negotiating team and ability to deal with a very tough and bureaucratic process? As you know, the Iranians have.
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Trita Parsi
I guess it's impossible for me to put a number on it because we're still too early in the process. It all depends on where we go from here and where we end up. But I think this, both Witzkov and Kushner are people who want a. I think that's crucial because what we've had in the past is oftentimes negotiations in which is not even clear whether one side or both sides actually want the deal. They're kind of exploring whether a deal is even desirable. I think both of them do want a deal. I do believe the Iranians want a deal. The question is, do both sides have sufficiently realistic expectations of what the other side can give? We oftentimes tend to forget on the American side, the Iranians have politics too. It's not easy for them to just give everything or agree to, you know, something that comes across to them as subjugation and surrender. In fact, I believe that for this specific regime, surrender is worse than losing in a war. War they think they can survive. Surrender they cannot survive.
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Steve Bannon
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Trita Parsi
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Trina Parsi. Give your location at at Quincy in your social media and any closing thoughts before you punch out.
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Trita Parsi
Yeah, people can reach us at the Quincy Institute's website which is quincyinst.org or on my social media which is T. Parsi on X. Yeah, just last thing to say. Look, I think the president really wants to get a deal and I think it's clear both sides, both the Iranians as well as the President need to find some sort of a face saving exit from what is really, you know, a Mexican standoff right now. Yes, the United States undoubtedly is more powerful than Iran, but a war would nevertheless be a lose lose situation. I think the president understands and that's why he wants to get a deal.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you Trita. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
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Trita Parsi
Thank you.
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Steve Bannon
We have more information no doubt over the weekend and Monday. Monday they meet in Vienna. Rabbi Rilecki, did the Persians succeed in what they always try to succeed in? Let's get the next meeting and let's have a different location and we'll have a four or five day gap and we'll just continue this and hopefully President Trump one day will go away.
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Pesach Walicki
That is the goal. Look, especially because the whole premise for the, for American action now, like, you know, if you ask yourself, like, you know, what's, excuse me, what's so pressing, it has to do with what happened with those protests. The further we get from the protests, the less credible American military action is. So, yeah, they're, you know, the longer the negotiations take, you know, the better it is for the Persians. That's what they want out of this at this point.
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Steve Bannon
What do you mean? But you're not saying that our military action would be contingent upon Scott Besson Crush crushed their currency, economic warfare did that and then they came out. I guess you're saying when the President said we'll have your back or something, is that the contingent help is on
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Pesach Walicki
the way was his line.
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Steve Bannon
Military commitment.
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Pesach Walicki
Look, he painted himself into a corner. I said this last time I was on your show last week, that the wisdom of saying help is on the way is questionable. But the problem is that once Trump said that the Iranian people saw that America had their back, undoubtedly, undoubtedly more Iranians were killed in the street by the regime because Trump said that. And that's something that. And now, whether you like it or not, the way things work in the Middle east, saving face and having honor, these are all things that are very important to the politics. And if America in the end does not come to the aid of the Iranian people in the way that people pictured, it will be perceived again. And I'm not saying this is in America's best interest to do it, but it will be perceived as weakness on the part of Donald Trump. So that's part of the calculation. It's unfortunate that that's part of the calculation, but that's where we are. Steve, I wanna be very clear. While in Israel, we are all in favor of this regime that has been trying to destroy us and investing all of its resources to destroy us. We'd love to see it fall. That doesn't mean that everyone is looking forward to a war or even wants strikes on Iran. I don't think. I'm doubtful as to whether military strikes are the way to bring down the regime altogether.
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Steve Bannon
I'm gonna get to that in a second. President Trump is pretty adamant at the State of the Union. He wants peace, he wants a deal. But it's gotta be a deal that has no possibility of nuclear weapons and something that's enforceable. You've been pretty articulate about, and also Netanyahu and others that you can't trust these guys. Anything you do is just on a piece of paper. They're gonna sign anything they want to to get through the Trump years, and then they're in power forever. Because there'll never be a Democrat that would follow that would take action here to actually do regime change or eradicate them. Is that the line of thinking, basically the consensus thinking in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?
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Pesach Walicki
Oh, for sure. The regime's sole goal, their sole definition of success here, I'm not going to call it victory, but their sole definition of success, success is surviving the Trump administration because so long as they can sell their oil to the Chinese Communist Party, which they still are doing, so long as they can do that, they still have cash flow. And so long as they survive the Trump presidency, they know that whatever comes next is gonna be probably more favorable to them. And then all bets are off. They can continue along their merry way. You saw it after the 12 Day War, while from an American perspective, that looked like a victory for the United States, for the west, for Israel, whatever you want to say, by destroying the Iranian nuclear facilities. But they interpreted it as victory because the regime was still standing. These guys don't think in terms of election cycles. They think very long term. And their goal is to survive the Trump presidency. And I believe, and I laid this out in my most recent column in the Jerusalem Post, we talked about it, Steve, that the Iranian regime's calculation is very straightforward. They believe that they have a greater chance of the regime falling by capitulating to the demands of the Trump administration, as originally laid out, which were four demands. They were dismantling the nuclear. They were curtailing the ballistic missiles, stopping the funding of the proxies, and not persecuting and murdering their own people anymore. Those were the four things that Marco Rubio laid out. President Trump also referred to them. They believe, the Iranian regime believes that if they capitulate to the American demands, they stand a stronger chance of the regime falling because of the weakness that it would project to their own people. They fear their own people way more than they fear military strikes by the United States. And they think that they can survive. The regime can survive with lots of damage from US Military strikes, especially considering the fact that they're going to unload their missiles at US Targets. They've never done that before. You know, after the 12 day war, they did a kind of symbolic retaliation, if you remember, to Qatar. And they didn't kill anybody. Same thing after Soleimani was Killed. They warned the Americans in advance and hit some empty buildings. That's not gonna be the case this time. And those American assets all over the Middle east, the Iranians are gonna be firing in all directions if they fear that the regime is under attack. And if they kill any Americans at all, we know that it will be, you know, Trump is gonna wanna get out of there real fast. So I think the Iranian regime looks at their options and they say, you know what, going to war, we have a better chance of the regime surviving than capitulating to the US demands. So they'll try to delay things as much as possible and give the Americans less and less of a justification politically for attacking. But in the end of the day, they'd prefer those attacks to capitulating to the US demands. That's how I see it. And everything that's happened has only confirmed my thesis, by the way.
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Steve Bannon
I think. I can't believe this. And it only can happen on the war room. I think you and Trita Parsi.
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Pesach Walicki
Yeah, that's Trita Parsi and Pesafaliki agree. It's kind of crazy, isn't it?
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Steve Bannon
He just said when he left her, he says, hey, look.
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Pesach Walicki
Oh no, I was thinking the same thing, Steve. I heard him say it and I was like, I cannot believe that. I agree with Trita Parsi. Only on war room.
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Steve Bannon
But you're saying Trita just said, hey, if it comes down to accepting these four. And he was very specific about the ballistic missiles versus giving up the nuclear program, he says, I think they'll take their shot at militarily. Cuz as bad as it can get, at least they figure they might be able to hang on if they capitulate.
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Pesach Walicki
Listen, they're finished if the goal is regime survival, Capitulation to the US demands. Look again, it's very simple. Let's lay out the logic for the war room, for the posse. The only force that can bring down the Iranian regime is the Iranian people. So any calculation about what is the right move by the Iranian regime is what will or will not empower the Iranian people. Capitulation to the US demands empowers the Iranian people more than US military strikes on any target you want. The Iranian regime is not the Syrian Assad regime. It's not Gaddafi in Libya, it's not Saddam Hussein in Iraq, where you have just one little family that's kind of a mafia family and Assad gets on a plane and flies to Russia. But the Syrian regime is over. It doesn't work that way in Iran. The Iranian regime is much more like the Chinese Communist Party. It's a massive elite that leads the country. There's about 180,000 members of the IRGC. You have their families. You're talking about half a million people. A multi layered bureaucracy. They know that they could survive military attacks and still suppress unrest. And if they just cause a few casualties to the Americans and make it last a little too long. Trump does not want a prolonged situation. He certainly does not want to absorb any casualties. And they believe that they have a better chance of the regime surviving if they go to war than if they capitulate to the US Demands. And that's why they're digging in.
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Steve Bannon
President Trump has this great phrase, if you run him, no games. There's been all this media speculation, last 24 hours. There may be something that the Israelis go and do a strike and use it as a, as some sort of COVID for the Americans to come in. Do you see anything right now? You do agree there is a focus on a diplomatic solution while President Trump builds a vast military apparatus essentially surrounding the Persians. Any truth to this rumor about any Israeli strike that we use as a cover? And then the Americans come in later, is that just media speculation?
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Pesach Walicki
I saw that in Politico. Look, you could, you know, get a leak for every position you want to take. It seems that everyone in the administration who has an opinion is leaking it. And then someone's running, whether it's Axios or Politico and saying, oh, insiders say this. Insiders say that Trump is a master of unpredictability. And I'm not going to say that that's what's going to happen. And look, I think that, that the political story that suggested that there are people in the administration who want the Israelis to strike first because then a retaliation could come against the US Assets, and that could drag America into it and provide greater justification and the American people will be behind that. And I looked at that and I said, that's absurd. First of all, if that were to happen, everyone in America would say, as Steve Bannon probably would, there's Israel dragging us into another war. And no one wants that. The Israelis don't want that either. No one wants that. And the second thing is, in the 12 Day War, Iran did not retaliate at all against any American assets. The only strikes against American assets were after the attacks on the nuclear facilities, that symbolic strike against assets in Qatar. So why would anyone think that this strategy would work? That again, what was in Politico today, just so everyone knows what we're talking about. Politico had this report that someone in the administration says that the Americans want the Israelis to attack first because that will draw an attack on American assets in the Middle east which will give justification for America to strike. I think it's ridiculous, Steve. Sorry, I know it was impolitico. It makes no sense to me strategically.
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Steve Bannon
Rabbi, we're gonna have you on hopefully maybe we can't tomorrow. We'll have you on Monday. I want to talk about the meeting in Vienna and also your thoughts about what advice you give the president right now. Where do people get you? Your videos are amazing. Where do they go?
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Pesach Walicki
Thank you very much. Go to Israel365News YouTube channel or I also have a personal YouTube channel that I started recently. That's my name, Pesach Walakey on YouTube and you could also check me out at Rabbi PW on X. Thanks, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
And you have a brain analysis of the Tucker Ambassador Huckabee interview. I recommend everybody go watch Rabbi Walecki where he breaks that down short. Commercial break Kurt Mills on the
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Pesach Walicki
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Kurt Mills
Well, it's my time to disrupt it, I guess. So my view on what happened today, I think, and I will give it a number, because Trita did not. I think it was 7 out of 10. I think it was productive. The Iranians secured another meeting. It looks like the sides are not there on a deal, but they're not all that far apart. The Iranians signal that they were pleased that not developments happened. It was a mix of indirect and direct talks, apparently, reportedly. So we got over the hurdle of the weird Kabuki where they're in different rooms potentially. And I think there's a positive framework. I think what remains the stumbling block is it is not entirely clear, you know, when the administration would walk out. Different administration players are saying different things. I would say Vance and Witkoff's language has been more emphasizing no nuclear weapon, nuclear weapon only, versus Rubio's language has been swerving, talking about missiles here, missiles there. And of course you have, you know, the great senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, apparently in and out of the executive office building here in D.C. today, no doubt whipping internal support against any deal with the Iranians.
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Steve Bannon
That's the question. The president was pretty adamant. State of the Union he wants a deal, but he wants a real deal. Doesn't want to and he's not going to get tapped along. Do you. Are you starting to see a path? Because even the crazies of the Mark Levin, Tel Aviv Levin, and also the people who say, you know, you gotta walk away, you gotta leave the area. Don't you think a little bit of that's calmed down, that there looks like there's a joint trust in the president to try to figure out. He wants to try to get something done, to give him some space to get something done.
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Kurt Mills
I hope so. I mean, I think the president should be trusted on this. I mean, it has to be said Trump in this respect. This winter and this spring and last winter, last spring, by even negotiating with the Iranians, got further than the failed Biden approach ever got, which is to say dialogue can solve a lot of problems. If you revisit wars throughout history, it is just astonishing that many of the wars are caused by a lack of dialogue. These people don't know each other. And I think, you know, yeah, it can be parodies as parodied as meetings on meetings on meetings. But familiarity matters. It matters that Arachi and Woff have each other's cell phone numbers. I think this helps. And so, yeah, I think Trump should be given space. The question, though, is there are spoilers. There are neocon fanatics within the United States and Israeli hardliners who will urge action that will prevent any deal. Netanyahu is against any deal. And so at the end of the day, if Trump wants to get his deal, that in theory could A, avoid a war and B, get him a Nobel Peace.
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Steve Bannon
But isn't that, isn't that. But that's why I asked Trito about Jared and Wyckoff. I mean, they pulled off. Look, I say it's a second state and I'm never a proponent of a two state solution, but Jared and Wyckoff, with President Trump, kind of pulled off a miracle in Gaza, did they not? Now, I hate the fact Qatar's underwriting it and the Turks are providing security, but, you know, you've basically stopped the killing. And it looks like the board of peace they're pursuing, they're going forward. And President says you're always gonna have these flares, but we're. And those guys did it. If you had any team that was able to do it and to block out the noise of both, both sides, isn't it Kushner and Wyckoff?
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Kurt Mills
I actually agree with this. So I think, number one, it needs to be said, especially Wycott, but also Kushner, the amount of diplomatic successes they've had for, quote, not trained diplomats, for, quote, not serious diplomats, they've actually been able to blow back and blow through a lot of the bureaucracy and red tape on these approaches. And I think that needs to be heralded and given a chance. And secondly, I think you're right to flag the Gaza ceasefire. I think it was much better. It is much better than the status quo ante when the Israelis were mowing down Palestinians every day. And I think we got to remember, remember around the UN late September last year in 25, no one thought that that was possible. And all of a sudden Trump imposed that on the Israelis and they got a deal. So that is the precedent here.
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Steve Bannon
That's what I'm saying President Trump's political will to get peace with peace, through strength, by showing strength or. And we may have some coercive diplomacy at some point in time. Kurt, where do people get you? You're on top of this 24 7, particularly on your Twitter feed. Where do they go? And where they go for your great magazine?
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Kurt Mills
Yeah, sure. The magazine is the American conservative, founded in 2002 here in Washington D.C. against the Iraq war. And my own work, obviously parallel with tax, is urtmillsurtmils on X. Thank you.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, Curt. Fantastic. So we did Iran and we're gonna continue to focus on that. From the White House, Neal McCabe from the White House. I hate to say I was right yesterday, but I was right. This wasn't guys out having a couple of beers that got. They chased the fish too much into Cuban territory. What do we know today, or at least what the Cubans are saying? And it appears like the State Department, the U.S. government's working with them. What do we know? Just a bunch of big announcements a little while ago. Neil, what do you got?
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Neal McCabe
Yeah, so this was not the SS Minnow. Steve, about an hour ago, Carlos Delicacio, who is the Deputy Foreign Minister, put out a public statement from the Cuban Embassy, from the Cuban government. And what he said was that from the beginning, when this boat entered Cuban waters, they were tracking it. So that's 12 nautical miles, right, or the territorial waters of Cuba. So 12 miles out, they were tracking the vessel in full communication with the State Department and Coast Guard. And so when they were approaching the Cuban Coast Guard or Cuban border patrol ship, when they approached this vessel, State and Coast Guard were completely in on it, watching the action happen. And also they gave a list of some of the weapons and munitions that they found. The material, sniper rifles, Molotov cocktails, bayonets, camouflage clothing, bulletproof vests, radios, rations, night goggles, ammo and anti Cuban insignia on their clothing. And they also added that the US Government has shown complete willingness to cooperate in Cuba's investigation. Steve, why?
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Steve Bannon
Maybe we'll find this out later. Why nine in the morning and not three in the morning? Why come out in broad daylight where you can be tracked by the United States Coast Guard, the State Department satellites. Do we have any explanation at all? That's the most bizarre part of this, is it not?
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Neal McCabe
Yeah, absolutely. And it's like. Well, also the thing that triggered me is night goggles. Maybe they're cheaper than they used to be. But people, night goggles is a pretty serious piece of equipment. So if you have night goggles, you have some connections with somebody, those things aren't cheap and frankly, you have to learn how to use them. And so that tells me that there was some level of professionalism involved here. But as you said, I mean they would have had to have, you know, let's say they traveled 100 miles, right? So that's what, six, seven hours at sea and then they arrive nine to ten in the morning.
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Steve Bannon
You brought up that this might be the Versailles Bakery, which is the old school Cuban hangout. Legendary President Trump's gone there a bunch of times for walk and talks. Does this sound like something like that or you think it's much more serious? Mercenaries, paramilitary.
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Neal McCabe
I think that, you know, the VAT Versailles crew, right. I would imagine they've been training for the last 70 years and so and I imagine a lot of them are veterans of special operations and other and other experiences. So I'm sure they have their own sort of paramilitary wing. And you know, with the meetings going on with Rubio and they saw, you know, how vehemently anti Venezuela and the Venezuelan regime Rubio was especially in Trump, 45. And the president, the president gave a speech in Miami in 2020 just ripping the Venezuelans to the people in Florida. And then they saw the deal that was cut post Maduro and they were thinking, hey, maybe the guys who are running Cuba now, they'll get the same deal and we'll get boxed out. I'm not saying I have proof of that. Someone communicated that to me who's very active in the Cuban community. And it makes sense to me.
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Steve Bannon
Steve, a lot going on there, very complicated situation. Neal McCabe, where do people track you particularly overnight till we get you back up tomorrow? We're going to follow up with additional reporting on this. Sam Faddis also going to join us where they go. Neil
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Neal McCabe
Eporter, McCabe on all the socials.
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Steve Bannon
Steve, thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Vaughn Hilliard, you remember him from Kerry Lake days back in 22 out in Arizona was on Ms. Wild today talking about a Washington Post or a blockbuster. You've been following us every day when we open with John Solomon. John Solomon's been saying there's information coming out next week he's saying about foreign intervention into stealing the 2020 election. Washington Post has a story and put it up that talks about the Chinese Communist Party. Is that very surprising to the war and posse? Forrest, you join us now. We have been talking about this since even the run up to 2020, the laptop from hell and the Biden's involvement with the Chinese Communist Party, but particularly after that election, we were pointing at the Chinese Communist Party the entire time. It looks like not only there's some report that may come out as early as next week, there's an executive order banging around that may be deeper than the executive order on just voter fraud. It may be calling for emergency powers if the president needs them to step into the 2026 election. Your thoughts, sir?
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Roy Guo
Yeah. First of all, Steve, this really proves, again, how correct and how great you and Mao are. Because back in 2017 and 2018, when Miles talked about this, nobody believes this, and when he talks about this is not a simple prediction, it's the intelligence. When you talk about this against the Chinese Communist Party, it's too dangerous, it's too unpopular, but you did it anyway. It's briefness and vision that's first. And the second is because you guys talk about the CCP fears you the most, fears the Mao the most, and also feared President Trump the most, because you three guys are the people really want to take down the Chinese Communist Party, and you cannot be threatened, you cannot be bought off. That's why they fear you the most. You guys are the people of action. You take action, you make that determination.
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Steve Bannon
I just want to remind people that people here at the very beginning, or so many of miles shows in 18 and 19 miles Guo would say that Donald Trump is the greatest existential threat to the Chinese Communist Party and they will do anything to remove him. Now, they tried a pandemic, okay, and they still couldn't do that. Now we're gonna have, I believe, according to the Washington Post, you're actually gonna have the intelligence community and John Solomon's been signaling this. It's one of the reasons I believe Tulsi Gabbard was down in, wait for it, Georgia, that you're going to have evidence that you had involvement of the Chinese Communist party in the 2020 election. And this is why there's gonna be, I think, an executive order that's going to give the president emergency powers if he so chooses, in his judgment, that he needs to make sure this can't happen again. And this also puts to lie all the cyber experts that came on said this is the cleanest election in mankind's history. You see this in Georgia, you see this tomorrow, where they're not going to have this hearing where the Democratic Party in Fulton county is absolutely ballistic over not getting back those ballots. Short commercial break we're going to continue this on the other side.
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Steve Bannon
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Roy Guo
Yeah, I feel like, sir, you're the first person who actually speak about this, like six years ago. I'm Miles, and like Forrest said, like the CCP is the ultimate goal is to destroy the United States. I don't agree with the word influence. I think it's control. CCP wants the full control over the election and actually they did it in 2020 through the pandemic, through the media control through everything. And you guys been saying this for six years. Like Forres said, people take us as lunatics, but now, guess what, like, it's truth, right? And the CCP is the only regime that takes, you know, every action with the mindset that it's going to destroy the United States. And that's why people try to divide you and Miles and President Trump all the time. Look at anyone who attack you. And Miles Gu and Trump, they have vested interests and taking money and have
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Steve Bannon
businesses, they're on payroll. Before I let you go, you're in, Jeremy, again tomorrow in the first hour, we're going to do this. But Forrest, this makes sense because the laptop from hell, when Rudy invited me in to look at the laptop for hell because of my expertise, I learned from you guys in the Chinese Communist Party, you could see in the first five minutes, you can see in the first five minutes the corruption of the Biden family. The CCP had corrupted them. They would try anything, a pandemic, buying off the Bidens, right? Anything to do, anything they had to do to stop Trump. Trump is their existential threat. Don't people go, well, Trump's got a personal relationship with him. Forget all that. They understand that Trump's basic understanding is he's got to stop the Chinese Communist Party. It's to the marrow of his bones. It just is. And that's why they stole the 2020 election. Forrest, give me a minute on that and we'll have you guys back on tomorrow.
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Roy Guo
Yes, absolutely. That's why they fear you and President Trump. They want to destroy you. Anyone try to against the ccp, they put you in prison, they put Miles in prison, Peter Navarro in prison, President almost being put in prison. That's what they are trying to do because they know that you are the guys. Try to defend this country, try to save this country, try to defend this Chinese Communist Party. If we cannot defeat or take down the Chinese Communist Party, they will take over. As Roy just said, their goal is to destroy this country because they know 90% of the Chinese people, they want freedom. The same freedom and democracy this country's people has. They know if they don't destroy American, they cannot continuously control and slave the Chinese people. That's why they try to destroy anybody try to against the Chinese Communist Party. So that's why you and Miles and President Trump are the greatest guy. Because the history will further proven this. Because what you have done is historic.
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Steve Bannon
Well, thank you, guys.
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Roy Guo
The Chinese Communist Party is the threat for all human being.
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Steve Bannon
I'm a small cog in that wheel. But Navarro, the most anti CCP guy ever, wrote all the books. Crouching Tigers, they have five great books about China. Myself as a junior cog, Miles and President Trump, all either in prison or. They tried to send President Trump to prison for 300 years. Roy, where do people get you, sir?
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Roy Guo
Yeah, no. You are so humble. You are the goat for Chinese people. American people. People can follow me at Roy Guo on getter. Please go to Getter. It's amazing. Thank you so much. Free Miles go.
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Steve Bannon
Free Miles go. Forest where they get you?
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Roy Guo
Oh, you can find me on getter and the forest on getter three.
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Steve Bannon
Miles Guo, take down the ccp.
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Roy Guo
Take it down to CCP next year.
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Steve Bannon
Beijing. See you guys. See you tomorrow. Fighters. The new federal state Lao, Beijing. Mike Lindell, you've been pointing this blockbuster story in the Washington Post about foreign interference. Where did I hear that before? Oh, yeah, Mike Lindell. That's how they tried to bankrupt him and arrest him. And now his company's on fire and he's running for governor. He smoked days beaten waltz and smoked out Klobuchar. But the audience wants to know about a deal. Sir, how's the. How's the shift to the factory going?
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Steve Bannon
See you tomorrow morning. We're gonna go. Everybody's heading to corporate stuff, Christie. We're going to go check it out next at Worm Texas.
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