THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, EP.5230

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, EP.5230

Date: March 19, 2026
Host: Steve K. Bannon
Featured Guests/Co-Hosts: Senator Tommy Tuberville, Natalie Winters, Senator Mike Lee, Middle East Analysts, Japanese and FBI Officials, Cleta Mitchell, Mike Lindell

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a real-time, behind-the-scenes look at the ongoing U.S.-Iran war, legislative conflict over the Save America Act in the Senate, the intensifying immigration debate, and critiques of media/UN messaging on Islamophobia. With direct conversations and live analysis, Stephen K. Bannon’s War Room brings together policymakers, analysts, and regular contributors to discuss the consequences for American security, politics, energy, culture, and national identity.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Congressional Hearings & the U.S.-Iran War

(Starting ~02:35)

• Congressional Oversight:

  • Investigation into Intelligence Failures:
    • Republican members press FBI officials on foreknowledge of the Iran invasion and staffing changes in counterintelligence.
    • Concerns are raised about firings within Iran-focused units weakening U.S. defense.

• Accountability and Transparency:

  • “Was it two days, three days? A month?” (00:49 – Congressman)
  • FBI evades direct answers, citing pending litigation and internal processes.

• Allied Relations & Secrecy:

  • Questions posed to Japanese and other officials about the lack of notice to U.S. allies prior to launching the attack on Iran.
  • Japanese official justifies secrecy by referencing Pearl Harbor:
    • "You don't want to signal too much... Who knows better about surprise than Japan?" (04:27 – Japanese Official)

• Middle East Dynamics:

  • U.S. and Israeli coordination and strategic objectives contrasted.
  • Discussion of future energy flows and pipelines circumventing vulnerable choke points.
  • “America is not fighting for Israel, America is fighting with Israel.” (06:36 – Middle East Analyst)

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2. Senate Debate: Save America Act, Border Security & Immigration

(09:24 onwards)

• Senator Tuberville on Domestic Threats:

  • “We’re at war here now, Steve. They’re here… We have got millions that are here to take our country down, and somebody better start speaking up.” (10:56)
  • Frames the presence of Muslims in America as a civilizational threat; warns of the U.S. following the path of Europe.

• Immigration, Deportation, & ‘Enemy Within’:

  • Calls for aggressive action – enforcing judicial warrants and conducting deportations.
  • Criticizes current government for “inviting” illegal immigrants:
    • "We got 20 or 25 million illegals just on Biden’s watch, which was done on purpose." (12:13 – Bannon)

• Legislative Stalemate:

  • Tuberville laments lack of legislative progress, partisanship, “goofballs” on the Democrat side, and failed basic functions like funding DHS and FEMA.
  • His amendment on banning trans participation in women’s sports highlighted as part of Save America Act – no confidence in either GOP unity or crossover Democratic support.
    • "There’s so many things out there that makes everybody’s head spin up here… we don’t get a lot done… we bark loud. But we don’t do a lot for the American people, unfortunately." (13:21 – Tuberville)

• Voting & Non-Citizens:

  • Warns against “federalizing” elections and illegal immigrants canceling out Americans’ votes.
    • "You can’t win [in those states] if non-citizens are allowed to vote." (19:00 – Tuberville)

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3. War Policy & Civilizational Framing

(21:00–22:44)

• Historical Parallels:

  • D-Day anniversary invoked to stress seriousness of current military engagements and evoke patriotic resolve.
  • “At the end of the day… we all got to be in on whatever it takes to put these people back in their place because they are as dangerous right now as the Nazis were back in 1940s.” (21:33 – Tuberville)

• Constituent Attitudes:

  • Constituents in Alabama confused or concerned, but buy into existential framing:
    • “If they ever got a nuclear weapon… they will damn sure use it… They are crazy because they love death and they preach death to America every day.” (22:44 – Tuberville)

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4. Culture War: Islamophobia, Refugees, and the Media

(25:12–33:34)

• Natalie Winters & Islam Critique:

  • “Islam is not a religion of peace and even if it were, it’s antithetical to Western values.” (25:12 – Winters)
  • Warns that concerns about Afghan refugees and Islamophobia are “propaganda” and emotional manipulation by legacy media and global elites.
  • Articulates position that the “America First” movement must scrutinize all causes of foreign engagement, especially those seemingly benefiting Israel.

• UN Islamophobia Statement:

  • UN leader calls for empathy and fighting anti-Muslim hatred, which Winters dismisses as “an oxymoron… it’s a totally justified fear.”
  • “To suppress discourse, what do they do? Right, it’s the ad hominem attack. They say you’re Islamophobic.” (31:00 – Winters)
  • Critiques the prospect of global “censorship regimes” aimed at stifling right-wing criticism of Islam and migration.

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5. Immigration, H1B Visas, and Meritocracy Debate

(33:34–47:45)

• Media Satire & Bannon/Winters’ Response:

  • Clip mocks the anti-H1B/MAGA stance as “white valedictorianism” and “caste system” (36:56–38:10).
  • Winters stands by tough anti-immigration and anti-H1B position, citing wage levels, program expansion, and demographic displacement.
  • “It’s not an immigration policy, it’s a shareholder policy.” (41:13 – Winters)
  • Argues that the policy isn’t about meritocracy but protecting American jobs and national character.
  • “America does not have a white nationalism problem. If anything, we have an Indian nationalism problem…” (44:38 – Winters)

• Bannon’s Escalation:

  • Agrees and ups the ante: “20 year moratorium [on immigration]. All this [immigration] is a scam.” (47:45 – Bannon)

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6. Legislative Tactics: Voter ID Showdown

(49:08–52:30)

• Procedural Update:
  • Cleta Mitchell reveals a critical maneuver: extracting the voter ID section from the Save America Act for a standalone vote as a “put up or shut up” challenge to the Democrats (who claim to support voter ID).
  • "Let’s see how many Democrats have the wherewithal to stand up and vote against that.” (52:12 – Senator or Congressional Staff)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Japanese Official on Military Surprise:

  “Who knows better about surprise than Japan? ...Why didn’t you tell me about Pearl Harbor?” (04:27–04:41)

• Tuberville on Internal Threat:

  “We’re at war here now, Steve. They’re here... We have got millions that are here to take our country down, and somebody better start speaking up.” (10:56)

• Winters on Islam:

  “Islam is not a religion of peace, and even if it were, it’s antithetical to Western values.” (25:12)

• Winters on H1B & Immigration Policy:

  “You’re not importing the best and brightest when you’re paying them the least salary that could possibly exist... It’s not an immigration policy, it’s a shareholder policy.” (41:13–44:38)

• Bannon’s Blanket Statement on Immigration:

  “I believe we need a 10 year—no, a 20 year moratorium in this country immediately on all immigration, all of it. The whole thing’s a scam.” (47:45)

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Key Timestamps

• 02:35–09:24: Congressional grilling of the FBI, Japanese, and Middle East officials on Iran war transparency and strategy
• 09:24–13:21: Tuberville’s civilizational framing of border security, internal threats, and MAGA priorities
• 15:07–16:21: Tuberville details procedural hurdles on Save America Act, highlights political infighting
• 21:00–22:44: Historical parallels (WWII), ground war fears, constituent attitudes toward the war
• 25:12–33:34: Culture war discussion—Islamophobia, UN/legacy media narratives, refugee policy
• 33:34–47:45: H1B visa and meritocracy debate, extended anti-immigration arguments, media criticism
• 49:08–52:30: Cleta Mitchell explains legislative tactics—voter ID provision maneuver
• 53:01–end: Episode heads towards live Senate coverage, closing segment

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Conclusion

This episode of The War Room scans the spectrum from war strategy and legislative battles to cultural and population policy, foregrounding existential anxieties and populist critiques. Emphasis is placed on defending “Americanism”—through military action abroad, immigration restriction at home, and political warfare in the Senate. The tone is combative, urgent, and deeply skeptical of institutional, media, and globalist narratives, with guests leveraging statistics and historical analogy to stoke MAGA enthusiasm and maintain a posture of resistance—both to external enemies and internal “subversion.”

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For more:

• Natalie Winters: nataliejewinters.substack.com
• Senator Tuberville: @SenTuberville | @CoachForGov
• Live Senate updates and analysis: Stay tuned to the War Room throughout the legislative weekend.

Transcript

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[Steve K. Bannon]

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[Congressman (Republican)]

How many days before we invaded Iran did you know we were going to launch an invasion?

[FBI Official]

We can get into those details in a classified setting. But I work with my colleagues across the spectrum here to give me advance warning so that we can reinforce.

[Congressman (Republican)]

Was it two days, three days? A month?

[FBI Official]

It was sometime before that, sir.

[Congressman (Republican)]

Sometime before that. With that knowledge, we why did you fire at least a dozen agents in Counterintelligence Unit 12 that specializes in Iran counterintelligence, which makes us much less secure and safe with this war going on from Iranian attacks potentially against our country?

[FBI Official]

As I said earlier, Congressman, I don't work on timelines. When these terminations occur, they're internal investigations conducted by the careers at the FBI that highlight unethical or inappropriate conduct. And it's up to me to make the decision to. But our Iran Threats Mission center has never been more resourced as I've highlighted a 43% increase in counter espionage arrest from Iran alone and 360 ongoing terrorism investigations with Iran affiliated.

[Congressman (Republican)]

And the people you fired, those 12 people, they were experts on Iran, were they not?

[FBI Official]

I don't believe so.

[Congressman (Republican)]

They worked in counterintelligence, did they not?

[FBI Official]

I'm taking you at your word, sir. I'm not familiar with you.

[Steve K. Bannon]

You're the Chief Director.

[Congressman (Republican)]

I'm not. You should know the answer. You fired the people. Where did they work?

[FBI Official]

People were terminated for violating their ethical obligations and the high standards with the

[Congressman (Republican)]

ethical violations that they dealt with. The case of the classified documents that were found at the bathroom in Mar a Lago. Was that the ethical issue?

[FBI Official]

As I said earlier, all those matters are pending litigation. So I'm not going to comment on them, of course.

[Middle East Analyst]

No. Japan and us are very good friends. But one question. Why didn't you tell US allies in Europe and Asia, like Japan, about the war before attacking Iran?

[Steve K. Bannon]

So we are very confused about Japanese systems.

[Japanese Official]

Well, one thing, you don't want to signal too much. You know, when we go in, we went in very hard and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan?

[Congressman (Democrat)]

Okay.

[Japanese Official]

Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Okay.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

Right.

[Japanese Official]

He's asking me. No. You believe in surprise. I think much more so than us. And we had a surprise and we did. And because of that surprise, we knocked out the first two days. We probably knocked out 50% of what we and Much more than we anticipated doing. So if I go and tell everybody about it, there's no longer a surprise.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

And you talk to Minister Netanyahu about

[Steve K. Bannon]

attacking the oil and gas fields?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Yeah, I did.

[Japanese Official]

I did. I told him, don't do that. And he won't do that. We didn't discuss, you know, we do. We're independent, we get along great. It's coordinated. But on occasion, he'll do something and if I don't like it, and so we're not doing that anymore.

[Middle East Analyst]

I think that what has to be done is to have alternative routes instead of going through the choke points of the, of the Hormuz Straits and the Bab El Mandeb Straits in order to have the flow of oil, just have oil pipelines, gas pipelines, going west through the Arabian Peninsula, right up to Israel, right up to our Mediterranean ports. And you've just done away with the choke points for forever. That is definitely possible. Suit. I see that as I see that as a real change that will follow this, this war. But I also see this war ending a lot faster than people think. And the fact that we're working together. America is not fighting for Israel, America is fighting with Israel. I can tell you that we're working to create the conditions for it to collapse. But it may. It may survive, it may not. If it survives, it will be a lot weaker. There's no comparison. It'll be at its weakest point, shorn of industries that it built over decades, death industries, shorn of many other capabilities that they have and equipped with the experience, with the knowledge that if they try it again, they'll be hit again even harder.

[Intelligence Community Official]

The IC briefed the President on who would succeed the Supreme Leader if he was killed and the likelihood that her placement would be a hardliner.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Was the President.

[Washington Post Opinion Host]

Say it again.

[Intelligence Community Official]

Did the IC brief the President who would succeed the Supreme Leader if he was killed? And the likelihood that a replacement would be a hardliner or could be a hardliner.

[Washington Post Opinion Host]

So to be clear, the President's objectives with respect to Operation Epic Fury did not include regime change that may be different from what Israel's objectives were. But you can. But yes, the president was briefed in the event that Supreme Leader.

[Intelligence Community Official]

That's great. Thank you so much. I'm sorry to cut you off. I just have 20 seconds.

[Middle East Analyst]

Fact number one, Israel acted alone against the slowly gas compound. Fact number two, President Trump asked us to hold off on future attacks, and we're holding out.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Prime Minister, given the escalation of attacks

[Senator Mike Lee]

on US Allies across the Gulf given

[Interviewer or Moderator]

the spiraling energy costs, the high costs in general, the US Service personnel killed

[Senator Mike Lee]

in this war, many Americans are asking that question.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Whether you misled their government into starting

[Senator Mike Lee]

this war and for how long should

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Americans keep paying the price?

[Middle East Analyst]

Well, I misled no one. And I didn't have to convince President Trump about the need to prevent Iran from developing its nuclear program, putting it underground and being able to launch nuclear tipped missiles at the United States. He understood that. He explained it to me, I didn't explain it to him. And I think that our partnership is the only way to avoid this catastrophic development.

[Congressman (Democrat)]

Whether you would or could continue the war.

[Natalie Winters]

Just one question. Jeremy, thank you. We're going to thank you so much. Thank you Mr. Prime Minister. Thank you everyone for your questions today.

[Congressman (Democrat)]

War, he said that there are weeks away. I just want to kind of get a sense of were they weeks away of achieving a nuclear weapon? Yes or no?

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

Congressman, this is a serious matter and

[Natalie Winters]

you've made some very serious mischaracterizations.

[Congressman (Democrat)]

Yes or no, Were they weeks away? Yes or no?

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

Service to you and the American people

[Congressman (Democrat)]

to answer this, claiming my time, claiming my time. Were they weeks away or not? The American people need to know if this was an imminent threat or not, if there are weeks away or not, if there are months away or not. None of this dodging were they an imminent threat.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Thursday 19th March, year of our Lord 2026 on the Senate there are I guess debating moving forward with the Save America Act. We've got Senator Tuberville here. Tons of action in the war. Another night of the of heaviest bombing. Going to be another one tonight, we are told. But this thing's broadening out now. Qatar has put people on notice. They may implement, they may call for force majeure for up to five year contracts on delivery of gas to, to the Middle East. We're getting all that. Senator Tuberville has joined us and, and Senator Tuberville, before I get to the SAVE act and before I get to the war because we always want your ideas and opinions about kinetic activity and kind of the strategy. I want to go back, you put out, I think a tweet where you said controversial people's heads blew up about the enemy's inside the gate. You had a picture, if we can put that up, you had a picture of the twin towers which you almost never see anymore 25 years after it on fire, being attacked. And then Mondame in city hall under a portrait of General Washington on a, you know, on the prayer rugs having A staff meeting. We're fighting a major war now in the Middle east about topics related to radical Islamic theology. We're down in Texas. We've been in Texas and other places in the west working on this situation with the Muslim invasion of the United States of America. When you say the enemy's inside the gate, what do you mean by that?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Well, we're at war here now, Steve. They're here. We've got over 5 million Muslims here that go by Sharia law, worship the Quran. We all, like immigrants. We're all immigrants to some form or fashion. And I've got some Muslim friends, but they don't study and teach the Sharia law. They don't go by the Quran. They go by something else. They're here to make our country better, but we have got millions that are here that are here to take our country down, and somebody better start speaking up. I was today speaking with some people from Europe that were in my office, and they say it's over and they're going to fight in the streets. And when you and I have talked about that to get their country back, we don't want to have to do that here. So it's time to speak up, call it like it is. And we got a lot of problems. And Madame is the enemy. He is a guy that is going to destroy New York every which way he can. And, you know, it's just. It's just unfortunate we're at this point, but we've got to start speaking up and talking about it. If we don't, we're going to end up just like Europe. And 10 years from now, we're going to be fighting in the streets trying to get this country back.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Senator, you've been one of the strongest allies, proponents of President Trump and his policies, and particularly this issue about closing the border and then figuring out and going through this deportation effort. The principal topic besides closing the border, President Trump won in 2024. Mark Wayne Mullins was before the Senate yesterday on DHS and said, hey, his policy is going to be judicial warrants and to go into any business running home where they're not actually in the full pursuit of a bad guy, a bad hombre. How does that link back to your, hey, we're at war here, and we got 20 or 25 million illegals just on Biden's watch, which was done on purpose. This whole shut down at dhs, the whole problem we got with the budget, the whole polarization in the imperial capital is about this. At the same time, that and You've been one of the biggest deficit hawks, the Department of War, Pete Hicks, we're a big supporter of Pete and love Pete sends over a $200 billion bill for Tommy Tuberville and other peoples to suck on. Is somehow this thing like not focused on what we should be focused on?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Well, Steve, there's so many things out there that makes everybody's head spin up here. I mean we're talking about we've got these goofballs on the Democratic side that they can't do simple things like fund the government. They can't fund DHS or FEMA or the Coast Guard. It's just absolutely amazing. We should get all these block and tackling things out of the way, the fundamentals and really work on the problems in this country which is enemy with inside the gate. The wars we're having in Iran, the terrorism, the things are going on there, but it's hard to do that up here. And now, you know, I was with the President all day yesterday, went to Delaware. We had a kid that, that was in that crash of the 135 over in Iraq. And so they brought the bodies home yesterday. I went with him and we talked a lot. But Pete Haskell was there, General Kane, first time I'd really been able to sit down other than classified and just talk to him. And you know, they feel good about everything going on. I'm just glad that people like the Secretary of War and General Kane can get away from this nonsense that the Democrats are putting us through and focus on their job. And that's, that's been awesome. I think that they're actually can focus on whether it's Venezuela, Cuba or Iran. And they're doing a great job and they got just listened to their plan. They have a hell of a plan and it, it's a total changeover than what we had during Joe Biden. I mean these people actually have been planted for months doing things and making tremendous progress. So again, I don't, I don't. Up here we don't get a lot done. We talk a lot and we speak loud, we bark loud. But we don't do a lot for the American people, unfortunately.

[Steve K. Bannon]

One thing you guys could do is the Save America Act. Are you confident? Where do we stand? We're going to cut that. We're staying here live till seven tonight like we've done every night this week to cut into live coverage of what's happening on the floor. Give us your assessment of where we are.

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

A lot of talk, no action. We will have a couple amendments. I have an amendment that will vote on Saturday. We'll be here Saturday, Sunday. We're not going to go home till we get, get all this matter put to bed, so to speak. My, my amendment is as President Trump wanted was this is the fourth time I put it on the floor. No, men and women's sports should never been a problem to begin with. But obviously, as I will tell the Democrats when I'm talking about this before we vote, this helped beat you last time. Keep voting against it because we'll beat you with it again if you think men should play in women's sports. But the thing about this whole weekend is we don't have the vote, Steve. We don't have the votes on, even on the Republican side, we couldn't get a 51 vote if we needed to. We'll be three or four votes short. And then if you needed 60 votes, if you're counting on the Democrats to vote for anything for the American people to make this country better, you're living a dream,

[Steve K. Bannon]

I tell you. Senator, I know you're busy. I just want to hold you through a quick commercial break because I do have some questions on Save America act because people, this, this audience will be here through the weekend as we do wall to wall coverage on this and to make sure that people can understand it. So if you just hang on for one second, the geopolitics is a fancy term as we talk about geopolitical turbulence for war and the rumor of war. We've got a guide that helps you think all this through. End of the Dollar Empire it's five, six years we've been putting it out these installments. Seven free installments. We now have a hardcore copy of it that's actually handed out. Taught at the University of Arkansas in the Graduate school of Finance. The end of the dollar empire birchgold.com promo code Bannon Remember, this is not about the price of gold. It's about the pattern recognition and the forces that converge to drive the value of gold, particularly as a hedge against times of financial turbulence. And folks on our fourth turning plenty of turbulence, Senator Tommy Tuberville from the great state of Alabama. On the other side,

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[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. We're going to be on the Senate floor maybe for some of this hour, definitely for the 6 o' clock hour as this debate goes on on the Save America Act. Senator Tuberville, you said on Saturday you're going to get a chance to put your amendment up that President Trump once added to this about men and women's sports. And then you said, Sunday again, we're going to be covering it. Just to give our audience head up. We now do a Sunday show. So we'll be covering all this. Is this when we finally flip to seize the floor and go to some sort of talking filibuster? I mean, you kind of shocked the audience by saying, hey guys, pay attention, we don't have 51 votes. If the Democrats turned to us right now and said, okay, no filibuster, go and vote. You're saying we don't have 51 right now on the Republican side to carry this, sir?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Yeah, if we had a straight vote today and the Democrats said, see if you can get a simple majority, we'll let you try that. We don't have the votes. We got four or five people that is not going to vote for it. And they don't believe in federalizing elections. And as I say, this is a different world. I mean, we got 15 states in this country that they're absolutely going to allow illegals to vote. And there's no way an American Republican can ever win in that state again. I don't care if it's a school board meeting or President United States, you can't win. And so we cannot allow non citizens to vote. And people in Alabama, Steve, the biggest thing to me, they come to me and say, coaches, is my vote going to be canceled by an illegal? Is that what's going to happen? Are y' all not going to change something? And a lot of my colleagues, you know, they, they can't understand it. They want to stay with tradition and it's going to get us.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Do you believe as we work through this on late on Sunday afternoon or Monday that that you, you think this just kind of works itself out and I mean, it just peters out, it fizzles out and there, there'll be no forcing what the floor to try to force a standing filibuster well, I'd like

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

to try, yeah, I'd like to try anything. Mike Lee has been adamant and said let's, let's take the floor, let's make them stay here, let's make them debate, you know, day in and day out, if that's what it takes. I think that would be our only chance where we could just wear them down. Now, again, we've got to start with our Republican colleagues the same way we've got to get some of them on our side before we even, even can start, you know, with, with, with any Democrats at all. And of course, Chuck Schumer's gotten them all, you know, standing in line and, and saying, you're not going to get any campaign money if you, if you vote, vote for this. I mean, it's a, it's a scheme that the Democrats have going. It's just unfortunate.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Senator, I think it was in 2024 you went over for the first time to the, to the commemoration of the Normandy landings. I believe your father was a tank commander. I think he was there D Day plus a couple of days, and then was with Patton and the other armies that went across Europe. That experience, you had to go back for the first time and see actually the scale of what your father and others had accomplished. How is that informing your view now about what is going on and what are we asking of young men and women in Iran?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Well, it's mind boggling, of course. You've been to Normandy. You've seen Utah beach, which is not near, as near as an incline as the other beaches. And that's the reason my dad was a tank driver. And they came onto Utah beach because they could make it up the slopes. But you know, we lost what, 50,000 young men and women during that couple, two or three, three day battle. Just, it just brings tears to your eyes. It really does. And you know, that's the reason I really dread if anything, if we get into any ground war because I think we can handle what we need to handle with what we're doing right now. And President Trump believes that too. He doesn't, he doesn't want any form or fashion of boots on the ground. But at the end of the day, you know, we all got to be in on whatever it takes to put these people back in their place because they are as dangerous right now as the Nazis were back in 1940s.

[Steve K. Bannon]

You stay pretty close to the folks in Alabama. In fact, you're leaving the Senate to run for governor. What, as your constituents right now take their Temperature. Where do they stand on this war now?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

They're pretty good. I mean, you hear some talk, you know, about why, why are we doing this? Because most people aren't really informed. They don't understand all the attacks that we've had. This is accumulation, as you well know, Steve, of many, many years of, of all the different terrorist groups around the world that are funded by Iran and China and some of these people behind the scenes. And we've got to cut the head of the snake. And you're in my lifetime. This will be the only chance we have to do that. A lot of people saying it's because of Israel. It's, it's probably some about Israel, but it's more about, you know, peace in the world. Because President Trump started in a western hemisphere with Venezuela. Obviously Cuba is working on, on, on Mexico, but this, this what's going on in Iran. These people are absolutely looney tunes. And if they ever got a nuclear weapon, whether they were working on one or got closer to one, I don't care. I just want to make sure and the people of this country in the world need to make sure that these crazies do not have any kind of access to a dirty bomb or a nuclear weapon. If they do, they will damn sure use it. I mean, they're not like North Koreans. They're not like the Russians. They are crazy because they love death and they preach death to America every day.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Senator Tuberville, where do people follow you, your campaign for governor and where they follow your social media? It always comes in a little hot, telling folks what's going on in the

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

US Senate at Senator Tuberville and then at Coach Forgov. Steve, thank you very much.

[Steve K. Bannon]

We'll follow you through the weekend and maybe reach out. So good luck, sir.

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Yeah, reach out. We'll be here. We'll be here. Twilling our thumb. Steve,

[Steve K. Bannon]

thank you, sir. Always appreciate your straightforwardness and honesty. Natalie Winters. We started with Coach Tuberville talking about he put up a tweet the other day about the enemy's inside the gate, right about he had the Twin Towers and he had Mondame on a prayer rug in front of, I think the portrait of George Washington at the New York City Hall. It wasn't Gracie Mansion City Hall. You've had some people come after you pretty hard recently about some of the positions, some of the analysis, because you're not a pundit, some of the analyses you've been doing on exactly the situation in the United States of America with illegal aliens and Legal immigration, ma'.

[Senator Mike Lee]

Am.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Am I correct in that assumption?

[Natalie Winters]

Well, they've been coming after you, too, so I guess we'll both take the arrows. But look, I think you can really connect all of this, right? Whether it's this idea that we have to combat Islamophobia that seems to be the new woke obsession by just pointing out, I don't know, the simple fact that Islam is not a religion of peace and even if it were, it's antithetical to Western values. But you compound that with, I'm sure we'll play the clip of the way the legacy media is already churning the propaganda machine trying to make Americans feel sympathetic for, you know, Afghan refugees who are now caught up in the Iran war, who now need to suddenly come to the United States, because I'm sure an Afghan soldier never lied once to get refugee or citizenship status here in the United States States in the asylum process. And then you link it, I think, to what's going on in Iran, the lively discussions that the MAGA movement is having about what it means to use American state power and battlefields abroad. And I love Senator Tuberville, but I would respectfully say that I think it does matter the calculus of why went into Iran, if it is even just somewhat related to Israel's actions. I think that that's something that merits further discussion and a question, not because I'm conspiratorially anti Israel, but because America first means America first. And I think that that chain of command, that order of decision making is something that merits more analysis. And frankly, I do care whether it's, you know, Iran had a bomb or was really close to a bomb or they it was going to be a dirty bomb. Now all of a sudden it's not a nuclear bomb. You know, I think there's a lot of questions that people are allowed to ask and it's kind of an interesting pushback when you just want more clarity. But I think the H1B visa issue, which is what will a clip on a rather funny segment from a pretty awful comedian trying to suggest that Maga should support H1B visas and attacking this show as leading the kind of fight to say that actually H1B, it's really not even immigration policy, it's shareholder holder policy to help boost the bottom line of companies that hate this country. Unless, I guess, they can get quadruple the contracts from the Pentagon in light of a new war. But all of this stuff flows together and obviously our audience stays frosty. They see it. But. But there's A lot of, I think, propaganda right now between the Islam stuff, the refugee, you know, appeal to all the emotions. Obviously this audience isn't going to fall for it. But very valid questions, I think, about America's role in the world. And I will say interesting polling coming out today about how more allies want to rely on China than the United States.

[Steve K. Bannon]

I want to, I want to play, I'm going to wait till after the break to play all. I was going to play one of them here, but I want to hold for it. You warned very early in this, when I say very early, and I think we're coming up on the third week of it, that you can't discount the refugee replacement and how this could be a total fiasco. Do you feel, as someone that does investigative reporting stays on top of this. Do you feel given the scale of what this work could have, you've got the situation with the canceling, potentially canceling of five year gas contracts. You've got the situation with refugees now they're talking about, I think Bibi today at his press conference talked about potential ground troops. Do you think the information's coming out enough that people can make judgments and the War in Posse can sit there and weigh and measure. We got about a minute. Can weigh and measure exactly what's going to see if they were answered, asked by a pollster, that they would actually have enough information to answer?

[Natalie Winters]

Definitely not. I mean, I think if you just single out the refugee issue, the only agency that I've seen even giving us numbers is the United Nations. Very rarely do I uncritically or unironically quote the United nations. But unfortunately they're the only people on the ground even doing the analysis. And even the numbers that they're putting forward are to the tune of millions of people, even hundreds of thousands. And you know, the small country of Lebanon alone. And I think the point is the reason why there's such an opposition to forever wars. I'm aware this is not a forever war. It's been a few weeks, but it's the second, third and fourth order effects of getting involved in, you know, Muslim majority regions. They fight to the death. They hate this country. That also means you can't have unconditional surrender from an Islamic country, let alone with the evolution in drone warfare, but from a crazy, radicalized Muslim state. We're going to be dealing with these sleeper cells and refugee replacement for decades to come.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Hang on for a second, Natalie. We're taking a short commercial break. We've got some clips we're had some, some observations and some analysis of all of it. You're in the war room on a Thursday afternoon. Short break.

[UN Official]

Ramadan draws to a close. Muslims around the world reaffirm values that are also form, that also form the foundation of UN Charter empathy for the vulnerable, generosity towards neighbors and responsibility towards the wider community. These universal principles must guide our global response to hatred and division. On this International Day to Combat Islamophobia, let us recommit to the equality, human rights and dignity of every person everywhere. Let us reject the narratives of fear and exclusion and let us work together to eradicate the rising tide of anti Muslim hatred and bigotry and build a world rooted in respect, inclusion, justice and peace.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Natalie Winters, your observations, ma'. Am.

[Natalie Winters]

So that's the leader of United nations speaking on the, I guess International Day to Combat Islamophobia, which in and of itself is an oxymoron, I think is a totally justified fear. It's not a phobia. But I think you're seeing a sort of resurgence of what are very 2016 era talking points, sort of in response, frankly, to what this audience has been doing, which is calling out the threat of Sharia supremacy, the metastasization of Islam through this country. So to sort of quell or suppress that discourse, what do they do? Right, it's the ad hominem attack. They say you're Islamophobic. And I think that that's actually really quite a dangerous development when you look at the national security implications, particularly when it comes to things like, oh, it's racial profiling, right? All these euphemistic, or I guess the opposite, the inverse of that terms to describe what is just protecting the national security of the United States. I think we can spare a little bit of diversity to make sure that young American children aren't blown up in the name of Allah. But it's quite interesting when you look at what the UN is doing, which I think you can always sort of look to them as a figurehead for what the globalists are seeking to do. And of these countries, they are launching or getting ready to launch a new UN action plan to combat Islamophobia. And one of their special envoy was talking about what exactly that would entail. And even for the un, it's pretty radical, including, but not limited to what they describe as addressing the, quote, root causes of hatred and using, quote, education of the school's media and full public, also using legislative issues legislation to try to, I don't know, root out not just Islamophobia, but The attitude of Islamophobia, which when you really unpack that, that's pretty wild. They're already talking and in talks with the tech platform civil society to sort of put out this censorship regime to again suppress Islamophobic content, which we've all seen. You can't even really define that. That's basically anything that's not like, let's open our borders to a bunch of third world invaders and watch the United States turn into an Islamic country. But they even talk about how they can monitor better the rise of Islamophobia by using quote databases to follow up with more concrete steps. So I think this happening congruently with what's going on in the Middle east when you could potentially see a huge refugee wave incoming, you're already going to start seeing the argument that, you know, it's Islamophobic to not let in the millions of refugees from Muslim majority countries.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Yeah, you're going to see it. You nailed it. You're going to see this. This is a longer clip. H1B visas. I want the audience to focus on this. And Natalie and I will be on the other side.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Now, the Republican battle over H1BS has two sides. On one side is the corporate tech maga, the ones who all lined up at Trump's inauguration and funneled money into his slush fund. They argue that H1B visas are critical to allow them to hire the kind of top tier talent that they need to make sure America remains a world leader in innovation. They have a strong case. Nearly three half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or the children of immigrants. A recent report found that over half of US startups valued at a billion dollars or more had at least one immigrant founder. Now, on the other side are the opponents to the H1B, the nativist wing of Magna. Now, when most people think of this group, they think of Steve Bannon, the guy who did for olive canvas jackets what Hillary Clinton did for the pantsuit. Bannon has been on one about H1BS for a long time.

[Steve K. Bannon]

The H1B visa program is a total and complete scam. From its top to the bottom, the H1BS is a total and complete scam. This is all about paying one group a third of what you paid the other group with no benefits. And they live in 10 to a condo in Silicon Valley.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Now, since Kirk's death, there has been no shortage of young, ambitious H1B haters auditioning to take his place. But I want to focus on a few very promising young upstarts. First we have Natalie Winters, the 24 year old protege of Steve Bannon and the White House correspondent for his War Room podcast. Last year, Natalie got a splashy girlboss profile in the New York Times. Yas Queen. And she regularly says this stuff about Indian people.

[Natalie Winters]

They're not the best and brightest. They're the worst. And they're the most attached to the culture that they're coming from. And they have nothing American about them. And frankly, they're. They have a fake diploma from a fake Indian university where the person sitting next to them is probably a robocaller scamming you.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Come on, Natalie. We have fake diplomas here in America too. They're called poli sci degrees and we both have them. Welcome to the grift. But if America is all about letting the best rise to the top, how do you justify shutting down legal immigration? I mean, that's anti competitive. And that's when I started listening more closely to Natalie Winters.

[Natalie Winters]

Immigration is both an economic issue but also a cultural issue. Right. We want to deport these people not just because they're depriving Americans of their wages of their jobs, but also what they're doing to the cultural fabric, what they're doing to these neighborhoods.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Got it. So there's something about foreign cultures that is bad for America. Now what exactly is it about those cultures that Natalie finds so offensive?

[Natalie Winters]

And should we be studying, you know, 25 hours a day, eight days, you know, increase the length of the day so all we can do is study? That's not what this country was founded on. If you look at the history of us.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Got it. So you don't like lazy immigrants. Totally get that. But you also don't like immigrants who work hard. So here's what I'm saying. Gen Z conservatives, like the rest of Gen Z, are struggling economically. They feel like they deserve, deserve a decent job with a decent wage and to still have time to live a life. The problem is, if they said that, they'd start to sound like these losers.

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Workers throughout the country are seeing their family life fall apart as they are forced to spend more and more time at work.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

My vision is not limited to the homes that we live in or the childcare that we're making universal. It's also a vision where we make it possible for working people to afford lives of joy, of art, of rest, of expression.

[Natalie Winters]

We don't have to live like this anymore. We can make a new world, a better country where we can fight for

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

the dignity of all people.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

So instead of appealing to a Sense of solidarity and fighting for economic security and dignity for all Americans. MAGA is appealing to a zero sum mentality and saying, if we kick out the boat browns and the airport browns, well, guess what? But we'll add more to ourselves. And this reveals what MAGA really means when it says merit. Yeah, you earn it through hard work and education, but if you're born here and your parents were born here, you get extra merit points for being a heritage American. It's basically Kendall Roy at the end of succession screaming, I'm the eldest boy. You can call this racial entitlement, you can call it white nationalism, but I call it white valedictorianism.

[Steve K. Bannon]

We all know this.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

The valedictorian in every school, if you go on grades alone is the Chinese kid. It's always the Chinese kid. It will always be the Chinese kid. But maga's like, no, just keep going down the list. Go through the Chinese kid, the Vietnamese kid, the Korean kid, the Indian kid, the Pakistani kid, the Bengali kid, back to the Chinese kid. Just keep going until you get to the white one, the 13th place guy. That's the valedictorian. As much as MAGA and Republicans claim they want merit, they don't. As much as they claim they just want to hire the best, most hard working immigrants. They don't. What they really want is a preferential treatment for being heritage Americans. They're not enforcing meritocracy, they're enforcing hierarchy, almost like a caste system, which is the most Indian thing they could be doing.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Natalie Winters, thank you, thank you for that. Quite interesting, by the way. I was the follow on speaker to Vivek's Heritage American speech back in December at Turning Point. I might mention Vivek, who was on quite a roll with, you know, you gotta stop sleepovers cause you gotta study 24 7, which really kind of misses the point of what's made this country great. Vivek, I think, is down 10 points in the last poll I saw and suck is dragging down the Senate candidates. Are Sherrod Brown, a populist, economic populist. Looks like he's gonna win. Natalie, they've singled you out. I think they've singled you out because your career is totally about merit. You've grinded through one of the toughest prep schools in the country, went to University of Chicago three years, you graduated. At the same time you held down being an investigative reporter for us. And really I think being the most serious investigative reporter about the warfare of the Chinese Communist Party against the United States of America, your overall Observations as now you are singled out, ma', am, as somebody that's. And I want to say it's not just H1B visas. I'm all for a tenure. I believe we need a 10 year moratorium in this country immediately on all immigration, all of it. The whole thing's a scam. It's all rotten to the core of it. We take in a million a year officially, but it's got, with all the, with all the different rules and regulations, you're really taking in millions a year, right? If not tens of millions a year. And we got 25 million illegal alien invaders here off of Biden. Of course, our new kung fu fighter, DHS says he only wants judicial warrants until we go into any business. Didn't talk about E Verified talk about a judicial warrant for you going to business. No, bro, that's not the way it's going to work. We'll never agree to that. No one will ever agree to that. So, Natalie, I think our position here is much harder than the H1B and the H1B. Everybody knows it's completely corrupt and the people that know it the most are the people in India that run the corrupt system, ma'.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

Am.

[Natalie Winters]

Well, Steve, I think you're going a little woke. If you only want a moratorium for 10 years, I think we got to do at least 20. But I will say I love that video. Video with the false pretense. The predicate being that The American people, I.e. maga, have ever had a say in what this country's immigration policy is. Anytime there's actually been the chance to have a referendum on immigration. When you put the donors to the side, like Trump in 2016, overwhelmingly they want to build the wall and get mass deportations. Those are the most popular slogans. But this idea of merit is just so astronomically false. I always love sort of talking about the actual numbers because there's this idea, right? The best and the brightest, as he kept saying. Well, when you actually look at the numbers and like they play this sort of shell game with the numbers so the American people don't understand how quickly they're being replaced. But about 87% of the H1B people who are coming in the data going back to around 2015, they're at the bottom 2 percentiles, the 17th percentile wage and then the 34th percentile wage of people in this country. So you're not importing the best and the brightest when you're paying them the least salary that could possibly exist. And when you look at the levels that they're importing. So it's not just obviously corporations scamming these people, paying them basically slave labor wages. 52% were at level one, 30% were at level two, just 12% were at level three and just 6% were at the highest level. And that's the Government Accountability Office. So that's not crazy right wing data. When you look at what the share of foreign versus native born workers are in the IT sector now, over half of all STEM and IT jobs are going to people who are born outside of the country. And when you look at this, I mean these corporations save on average around $20,000 per employee when they're outsourcing. And you see these CEOs taking $1.3 million in the case of I believe the company, some energy company, Northeast Utilities, after they're laying off 200Americans. And when you look at what the statute was, right, in the 1990s it was under 100 words. That was what created this program. Now it's up to 7,000 words, 20 pages. That's how you get the Alphabet soup of visa categories like the OPT program. And when you look at the numbers, it's quite staggering. Opt, right, which is this kind of weird pseudo student to job pipeline. It was 24,000 in 2007, it's now 194,000 in 2024 with 48% of those people coming from India. And if you start really looking into the future, if you take the same relative rate of growth of foreign born workers versus native born workers, which is 3.2% annual growth in the share itself, using that compounding assumption, if you project that into the Future, in only 30 years 50% of the entire workforce will be foreigners. In 42 years it'll be 70%. Obviously these aren't hyper realistic. Domestic native born Americans are always going to have jobs. But at this rate, it would only take 52 years for the workplace to be 100% foreign born. And like I said, the original cap was 65,000 people a year. You look at by the 2015, we already passed into the 200 thousands of people. And that's not even including overstays. That's new leave. And when you look at 2024 for example, there was 780,884 H1B petitions. Granted, that is a 1100% increase over what the American people were allegedly sold, even using fake data. And I think the point is why I find that clip so funny. It's not just the typical argument that we make here, which is that it's not an immigration policy, it's a shareholder policy. It's for these corporations that hate this country. It's not about talent, it's about replacing Americans. But to say that our opposition to H1B visas, which demonstrably depress the wages of Americans, is rooted in white nationalism, is patently absurd. America does not have a white nationalism problem. If anything, we have an Indian nationalism problem because upwards of 70% of all H1B visas are going to people from India. We have a Mexican nationalism problem when it comes to illegal immigration because they're all coming from Mexico. And we have a, I don't know, I guess a Chinese nationalism problem in our universities because the majority of those visas are going to Chinese people. So to say that our opposition, the idea of defending American workers is rooted in some obsession with white identity, it's not. But on the other hand, if America turns in to being filled by 100% Indians, then it's not exactly America. And you know what makes I think MAGA really upset is being lectured by someone whose parents were immigrants to this country. Which, that's, that's fine. I'm sure they did it the right way. They probably came on an H1B visa. But I don't wanna be told what being an American is by someone who, like, has barely been an American for more than, I don't know, a few decades. And it's that. That puts a bad taste in my mouth, being told that I'm not allowed to raise my voice and say, actually, we should make sure that our government isn't screwing over American workers by replacing them with people who, yeah, get diplomas and degrees from fake universities. It's all a scam. They're paid slave wages and they're not the best and brightest. Okay, you can point me to one person who started a company. Good for you. There's a lot of Americans. And Steve, I think the most upsetting thing, which I think the audience probably shares with that clip, which they should watch the whole thing, it's this idea of betting against Americans, betting against white kids, betting certainly against white men. You know what, you don't need to go down the list past every ethnicity to hit a white person. There are a lot of white people who are capable of being valedictorians too. And you know what? Hasan Minhaj, look at President Trump's victory in 2024. He made massive strides winning over the minority, whatever words you want to call it, vote with people who were drawn to economic nationalism. And I Just find that interview, that segment, first of all, so reductive and so low iq, but so weirdly racist. By saying that I'm the racist for not being an Indian supremacist and saying that I think a visa program that's exploiting American workers and turning this country into a hollowed out shell of its culture is something that's wrong and that should not be continued. And that we should, I don't know, put American workers first. American defined as people who, yeah, maybe have a little bit of heritage or legacy in this country and didn't just arrive 15 minutes ago.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Yeah, like I said, 100% agree. And I am now with you. It's a 20 year moratorium. You convinced me. It's a 20 year, I've been too weak. It's 20 year moratorium. And you know, I had the pleasure of sitting there watching Vivek's just insane speech and I'm thinking, this guy's running for governor of Ohio. I'm not so sure that's gonna work out. Of course, he immediately got off of social media cause he was getting ratioed and now he's down 10 and then we're gonna lose ascendancy because of him. Natalie Winters, we gotta cut to the Senate floor. I think there's big news coming up on Save America. And of course you and I work every day to Save America here in the war room. Natalie, where they go for more of your content and maybe a couple. You got substack. But you also maybe have a couple of three rants out there too, too.

[Natalie Winters]

Natalie G. Winters on substack. Nataliejewinters.substack.com Always an honor to be in the war room. Thank you for having me, Steve.

[Steve K. Bannon]

You know, Grace and I were just talking before your appearance here. Said, gosh, we miss Natalie. Heaven. You know, when you were, you were hosting the show when I was in prison, some of those great grants.

[Natalie Winters]

We need you.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Love you, ma'. Am.

[Howie Mandel]

Thank you.

[Steve K. Bannon]

I'm now, I'm a now I'm now a 20 year person because Natalie convinced me. 20 year moratorium on all the scam, all this scam, immigration policies. Natalie, thank you. Let's make sure you follow Natalie on social media. Let's go to the Senate floor. Mike Lee, Cleta Mitchell's with me. I think we got big break.

[Senator Mike Lee]

She said just about any of the things that she said. I'd be concerned too. Fortunately for all of us, the things that she's saying about this bill are either in some instances incomplete, leaving out material information to complete the picture, resulting in a much, much different impact than has been suggested or in other cases, they're completely wrong. Let's go back to a few first principles about what the bill actually does. There are two basic precepts of the bill. The fundamental purpose of it is to make it easier.

[Steve K. Bannon]

A couple minutes left in this. We're going to go back to the Senate, Florida, Mike Lee, but Cleta Mitchell's joining us. Cleta, you got some breaking news of what's going to happen in the next hour. Ma', am, Is Cleto off? You take you got to take your mood off.

[Middle East Analyst]

Cleto.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

Sorry, can you hear me now? Sorry,

[Steve K. Bannon]

that's I know how you boomers, I know has technology is hard for you boomers to use, but go ahead. Cleto.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

Well, I'm sorry about that.

[Natalie Winters]

Yes.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

We just remember that we wanted this on the floor. We wanted the Democrats to have to talk about it. Remember that's what and we were begging, pummeling. John, the Republican leadership said just put it on the floor. They said what's going to happen? We said we don't know, but put it on the floor and find out. It's called legislating. So that's happened and people have started paying attention and they started looking at the Democrats and listening to their lies. And you know, the Democrats have been lying about voter ID for 20 years. 20 years they've been lying about voter ID and it has not moved the needle one bit in terms of public attention, public opinion. So yesterday now remember, they started talking about this bill on Tuesday. So 48 hours into it, Cassie, yesterday was 24 hours into it. They Schumer said Democrats aren't opposed to voter id. We're not opposed to voter id. We're opposed to all these other things. So there's a process in the Senate. I'm learning all these little things about the Senate rules called hotlining a bill. And so Senator Housted from Ohio has taken the section on photo ID out of the Save America act, copied it into a separate bill and that's going to be put on the floor about 6:30 and he's going to ask for unanimous consent of the House, of all the senators to just adopt this bill and send it to the House. So we'll see. We'll see what they do. Let's see how many Democrats have the have the wherewithal to stand up and vote against that.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Hang on. Cause Schumer started talking yesterday because they knew what they were saying was not sticking. And this one, the power of The Warren posse and others to put out and be a force multiplier in this content. Schumer came out yesterday and said, oh, we don't have any problem with voter ID. You're saying they're doing a put up or at 6:30 they're going to do a put up or shut up. They're actually going to do just a bill on voter id.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

See if it's an actual bill. It takes that section, copies it verbatim, puts it on the floor and says, okay, you want unanimous consent for this? Great, let's see what happens. Let's see what happens.

[Steve K. Bannon]

I mean, Kalina, can you.

[Senator or Congressional Staff]

It's legislating.

[Steve K. Bannon]

Hang on one second. We're going to hold you through the next hour. Cletus is going to be up at the top. I want to get to Mike Lindell before we shift over to the 6pm edition of the War Room. We're going to cover this live on the Senate floor, Cleta Mitchell. Breaking news here. They're going to do a put up or shut up bill on voter id. Mike Lindell, you've been fighting this one for a long time, sir. People are interested in your opinions here, particularly since you're going to be the next governor of Minnesota. However, in the two minutes we got left, they want to know what deals you got for the Warren Posse.

[Mike Lindell]

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[Japanese Official]

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