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this is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's Tuesday the 14th of April in the Riverlord 2026. There's a lot going on. John Solomon's going to join us in a moment with breaking story after breaking story about this Tulsi Gabbard DNI going after the deep state, who the whistleblower is, everything that's converging on that front, which is maybe the most landmark front President Trump will do in taking down the deep state for this country and for patriots. We also have a naval blockade going on in the north in the Gulf of Oman outside the Strait of Hormuz. Let's go to Captain James Finnell. Captain, can you give us an assessment? In fact, I think last night maybe it was a confusing that a CCP vessel got through. Can you just tell us our status today?
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Captain James Fennell
Yes, Steve, before we get into that, I just want to correct yesterday I had said that the USS George W. Bush was heading into the Strait of Gibraltar hours after that report that had been online was corrected. And now that we know that the Bush is actually heading down through the west coast of Africa, is off of Namibia and is heading around the Cape of Good Hope and avoiding the Red Sea and the Babel Mandep regarding this Chinese owned ship, it's called the Rich Star and it's Malawi flag. It's under OFAC sanctions for illegal shipments. And it was sitting in an anchorage in Oman inside the Arabian Gulf. It had been at Anchorage. It's an oil and chemical tanker, fully laden. And when the embargo or the blockade started yesterday at 10 Eastern Time on 13th April, within the hour, the rich story started moving towards the Iranian toll booth, if you will. And she got about halfway there from her anchorage and turned around and stopped and then turned around and went back. Then several hours later she started going through the straight and as you can see from the graphic, she actually went through the Strait of Hormuz just south of Larock Island. And everybody on the Internet when that happened, six, eight hours ago.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on. Slow down, slow down. Let's get the graphic up. Denver, you put the graphic up. I want the captain to explain it. Go ahead. Once we get the graph. Okay, Therehere we go. Captain Fennell, tell the, tell the audience where to focus.
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Captain James Fennell
Yeah, focus on the top white, top right quadrant. And what you'll see is a yellow track going south of Kesham and south of Lark island. And then that yellow track goes down through the Strait of Hormuz. And before it got to that red box, the Internet exploded and said, ah, see, the blockades failed. Well now in the last four or five hours the rich starry went to that red box and then stopped and has turned around and gone back on that red track and is headed back up towards and is now south of Larock Island, Kesham Island. So that's just one vessel that's been clearly turned around. There's another report of another one or two vessels that have been turned around. So we're in this fog of war right now in terms of, you know, what exactly is happening. But there is evidence that the US Navy's blockade has in effect been effective and is starting to turn around sanctioned ships. Now this ship did not come out of an Iranian port. It came out of the, you know, the uae, which is on that southern peninsula there inside the gulf at an anchorage. So there are other ships that are coming out. There's some reports that some ships that were in Iranian ports have gone through that's not been confirmed yet. So I would guess that in the first hours of this there's going to be some, some, you know, leakers and things of that nature. But the US Navy is looks and appears to be putting this embark or blockade in place and doing exactly what President Trump said he was going to do. And this again, this ship was headed for China. It's Chinese owned, Malawi flag, Chinese owned and was heading for China. And that has been turned around. So that's, that's a tanker of oil that the Chinese will not get.
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Stephen K. Bannon
How does this explain to the audience how does this work? If I think at least what I'VE seen. I don't know what the notice to mariners is, but what I've seen from centcoms, that they are basically putting the Iranian ports, Carg island, anything that's Iranian and they're tracking, if it comes out, it's going to get turned back. But supposedly our allies, the Saudis, uae, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and in fact, I think they were, people were very excited that one of the liquefied natural gas vessels got out. How does something leave uae, even if it's part of this gray fleet or ghost fleet that gets turned around? Obviously it's CCP oil. I mean, you want it turned around, I want it turned around. But we're anti CCP guys. Is that in the rules of the game? I thought if it came out of uae, if it came out of one of our allies ports, it's good to go. Or have they taken a second consideration that if it's, if it's gray shift or they think it's going to go to China, it gets turned around?
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Captain James Fennell
Well, it wasn't because it was going to China. It was because it was already an OFAC internationally sanctioned vessel for what it had already done, running illegally obtained oil. So coming out of Iran. So presumably that ship, at some point, I don't know its full history, had received Iranian oil. So that's why it's under sanction. Maybe it's under sanction because it ran Russian oil sometime earlier. I don't know all the details, but the fact is is that it was an OFAC sanctioned vessel. And that is part of the criteria that we're going to stop. So we're going to stop every ship, vessel that comes out of Iranian waters. Iranian ports, they have six main ports that provide or supply 90% of Iran's economy and trade. So those will be the six that will be watched the most. And then we'll be watching for sanctioned vessels. And then we've even said in the notice to mariners, we've even said even, you know, neutral countries that we think may have some suspicious activities, we have the right into reserve to look at those and we will do that as well. So this is going to be a fairly thorough effort to make sure that China cannot run oil, or China, Iran cannot run oil out, buy and sell oil. And as well as we don't want to see weapons of, you know, coming in, we don't want to see ballistic missile parts or components for nuclear material or whatever it is. We don't want that coming into Iran either. So what we need now is to get our allies to get engaged with this and help join the fight. Our allies in the Gulf and our allies in NATO. And let's see if that's going to happen. But right now at US Navy, once again, America is carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I mean, haven't the allies been pretty adamant? I mean, I think they had a meeting yesterday, but haven't they been adamant that the world Navy, the French navy, the Italian navy, three, they could help right away, are not going to be part of this. And I think it goes to show you how they have not invested, you know, they've invested in their workers taking holidays, six week holidays in the summer and retiring at 50 and having full pensions. Why American workers don't have that. We've got a $1.5 trillion defense budget proposed by President Trump. That's in Scott and Russ vote is going to, I think on Thursday go to the House Budget Committee. And I'm sure he's going to get some incoming on that. But we have allies that at best it'd be on paper. Yes, the Royal Navy's going to send a destroyer. The French will send a frigate. The Italians will send a corvette. So they'll make a huge deal about their part of this. But are they really, are they, do they really have enough wherewithal of naval forces, naval assets to actually do this?
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Captain James Fennell
Sir, I think that the French in, the Italians and, you know, if you combined all of them, they could probably scrape together, you know, a half a dozen destroyers that would help alleviate some of that pressure. But I think right now, and I think given President Trump's previous responses to the UK when they wanted to send carriers, I mean, they actually have air, two aircraft carriers that don't have any surface combatants that can escort them. It's, it's, it's the strangest thing that you'd ever imagine that the Royal Navy could have aircraft carriers without escorting destroyers. The USS4 or Bush that's heading down the west coast of Africa right now, she's got three destroyers with her, the Cook, the Mason and the Ross, as well as a fast refueler, the Arctic. So there's five ships that are steaming down with the Bush. That's how we send our carrier strike groups around. We do that with our expeditionary strike groups. We don't send them. We don't just send big decks alone by themselves. It's an integrated air defense arrangement. And the British aren't there. So we're doing this and we're moving other assets. There are two Avenger class traditional minesweepers that were in Japan. We had decommissioned a number that were in Bahrain for years. We did commission those in February and sent those to the west, the east coast of the United States right before this all kicked off, which is ironic. But now we've got two that are were in Singapore, came out of Japan, went to Singapore and on the 8th of April left Singapore and are heading into the Gulf. We've got the USS Tripoli amphibious ready group is there. She's got a big deck that can put out helicopters and other platforms into the water. There's also word of an expeditionary support base, that's the end route as well, which will have another flight deck and special operators and people that can do boardings and seizures of ships. So we're serious about this and, and it's going to get done. And again, like we said in previous episodes, the goal is to choke Iran off from access to funds. And when that money goes away, how are they going to survive? They need money to buy food.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's to choke them off. And let's be blunt, this enforcing function with the Chinese Communist Party, yeah, India is part of it. But today at 5:30 and folks, we'll be covering this live on the five to seven hour here at the war at 5:30 the ambassador, the Chinese ambassador, the United States is going to be in the Oval Office. I don't know why we give him that much, you know, gets a meeting with the president instead of the Secretary of State or some other, you know, some, some Ambassador Dorial. But he's going to be in there whining. The Chinese already said this illegitimate that the United States is not going to have anything, no say so nothing to do with blocking them that they're China and we're not. He's going to make a plea today, particularly prior to this meeting, President Trump in mid May to to relieve the pressure on this, is he not sir, he's not going over to have a cup of tea. He's going over to make a case that they need, the Chinese Communist Party needs us to stop and they need to stop immediately.
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Captain James Fennell
That's exactly what they're going to do. They're going to play up to the international press. They'll use this time, this airtime to portray themselves as the victim. Xi Jinping met with an Emirates or one of the Gulf state princes yesterday in Beijing and came out with a four point plan. And one of the points was we have to respect international law and we can't allow Mike makes right in the law of the jungle to creep into these kinds of issues. Funny, we didn't hear Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party say anything about that. When Iran illegally, you know, started attacking vessels in the Gulf and in the Strait of Hormuz or when they set up an illegal toll booth. Didn't hear peep out of the Chinese Communist Party when that happened. But now when the United States of America is putting into effect a very effective blockade, now they're going to come crying to the international community. And I look forward to seeing the president, you know, foot stomp this guy. He'll be nice to him, but he's going to stomp him.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay. Captain Fennell, United States Naval Institute, American greatness. Where else can people get you, sir?
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Captain James Fennell
That's it. I don't do social media eventually.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Bring your Captain Fennell on social media. Captain Fennell, thank you so much for getting us up to date on the blockade. And I'll talk to you after the the meeting at the White House with the ambassador and we'll compare notes. Thank you so much, sir.
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Captain James Fennell
Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Captain Jim Finnell. So there's a naval blockade and it's having an impact. Everybody in the world's talking about it. All the capital markets are talking about, the financiers are talking about. The United States Navy is implementing this right now. The Chinese Communist Party has an audience at 5:30pm this afternoon in the Oval Office with the president, United States, and they're going to make their case. Hopefully maybe. We bring up a couple, three things about the Strait of Taiwan and the South China Sea and how they're trying to muscle the Philippines and other nations, littoral nations around the South China Sea, saying that the South China Sea is an internal sea of China. It's like the new South China Sea. Unbelievable. John Solomon is next. President Trump goes to war against the deep state on a 30 front war. This, this may be the most important of all because it's tried to drag us into some unbelievable situations. This situation on the impeachment in Ukraine, enough to make you sick to your stomach. Has to be accountability. John Solomon from Real America's Voice Justice News next in the war room.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, we've got E.J. antoni on the on the economy. Sam Fatis going to join us with some wisdom about the Iranian Solomons here deep state but I want to start John the ambassador and it'll probably be live during your show. The ambassador to from the from the from from the Imperial Court in Beijing is paying a visit to the oval office at 5:30.
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John Solomon
We got their attention 24 hours after
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Stephen K. Bannon
they got their attention. It's a forcing function bro. It's a forcing function. So talk to me about Iran, talk to me about what's going on. And President Trump today is going to have the first of Xi coming and saying hey, you're coming to see me in Mid May, we got to figure this thing out. You can't, you know, mess around with international waters. Your thoughts, sir?
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John Solomon
Yeah, I think the thoughts are that if we were in Broadway, we remember this old song from Oklahoma, anything you can do, I can do better. And that's what President Trump just showed Iran and China. You want a blockade of Hormuz, Watch this. Nothing gets out, nothing gets in. Why is that such a ticking time bomb for Iran? Obviously they've got cash flow issues, but the real crisis, the thing that Iran would self destroy its own oil industry, is within three weeks they will be at full capacity. Mean there's nowhere else to store oil if it can't get out of the Strait of Hormuz. In that scenario, the wells start to back up, they start to get brackish water and they come to a grinding halt. Iran would lose billions of dollars of infrastructure when those wells start to go to that sort of latent status. They can't afford to let that happen with all the destruction that's already occurred. So President Trump has played the ultimate chicken game, which is, hey, if you can't get any more oil out in a few weeks, good luck with those wells. And I think that's what's got everybody's attention. China's got is coming here to see the President. I think it's an act of deference. They may have some rhetoric when they come to the White House, oh, they're violating the law. But at the end of the day, China's message is, we need that oil. What are we going to do to get a deal? What's happened in the last 48 hours? There are reports that Iran went from no, we won't give up our nuclear weapons to a five year moratorium. Trump countered with a 20 year moratorium. And I think he'll hold out for the 20 year moratorium. That's what the reports in the New York Times say. That is a real sign that Iran has blinked in a big way. And I think this strategy works. He's not firing bombs right now, the cease fire is held, but he's got a stranglehold on Iran and China and by the way, India and Iran. And India will have now every motive to fix this because they'll be dry of energy within a couple of months.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Folks know, as a former naval officer and haven't been over there and Captain, for now, the people we have on here, but so big, etcetera, we've been a big advocate of this as a forcing function. Right? And maybe you can argue later it should have been very. But there's no, there's no doubt, John, that we got the ambassador burning up the phone. She's telling, get up, you get a meeting. I need you in the Oval Office. Get over there. There's certainly. We've raised this, and this is why I keep saying don't deal with intermediaries. Let's have principle to principle. Trump's now got the instrument he and Besson have worked out. And what I love about what Fennell just said was, folks, let's not bury the lead. These are OFAC sanctioned. That means Scott Bessen's hands all over this and feeding that information to intelligence and to the fleet. So now we have an organized process. The Chinese get no oil and the mullahs get no cash. And so they're jammed up right now. They're going to have workarounds and try to have workarounds, but the basic bottom line is we blocked them and they got to come over as supplicants. Now they're going to talk lots of trash. Your advice to the president would be what, John Solomon.
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John Solomon
You know, I think everyone's telling him, stay the course. This will work. Every day that oil doesn't leave Iran, the crisis for Iran becomes more and more real, and it becomes increasingly problematic for China. And so it is a perfect leverage situation without having to expend any more missiles right now. We can always go back and drop some more bombs if we need to, but we've leveled Iran pretty well. And listen, Iran hasn't fired back. They haven't done anything they could. They might act bad, but right now they are signaling they want to find a way out of this that's diplomatic first. That is the president's greatest leverage right now, and I think he'll stay the course. He's got great people around him in Rubio and Besson, and I think that they have a strategy that is exactly, perfectly timed for the moment, and they have maximum leverage now. We'll see how that ends. But the leverage is on the American side. No matter how many times the New York Times tells the American people that the president's in trouble, he's not on this one. He's got all the cards.
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Stephen K. Bannon
John, I can't tell you after your appearances now, the last couple days about the deep state and particularly about the impeachment and all this, my phone blows up all day with people going, you and Solomon are killing me.
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John Solomon
When are we going to get.
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Stephen K. Bannon
When are we going to perp walk? When. When is Vindman going to Perp walk. And I think the whole Swalwell thing that goes from the leading governor of, in the governor's rights in California to out of Congress, I still think this is part of it because he was such a big part, such a loudmouth about this and being on the Intelligence Committee, he's deep, he's, let me tell you, Twain in this, that's why they go on a game out of town. So what just tell get us up to date what's going on. But when are we going to start seeing the action of perp walks for these guys?
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John Solomon
The defense lawyers that I'm talking to, the defense community believe that there will be one or two major indictments this month in the weaponization out of that grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida. The staff of the prosecutors are ramping up. Some big name prosecutors are going to be joining that office soon. That is an excellent sign that. And the activity is very high. The focal point in the last few weeks in the grand jury, according to defense lawyers, has been John Brennan for potential lying to Congress or false statements to Congress and obstruction of a congressional proceeding. And then there's some new evidence apparently involving the former FBI director, James Comey, some of that may have come from the nsa, the National Security Agency, and some testimony and documents that were recently turned over. So there's a lot of activity. I would keep an eye on those two big guys, by the way. Those are two big fish at the top of the food chain. But I think this month is what most defense lawyers think will be the first major indictments. These won't be the Virginia ones that frittered away in a few short weeks. These are serious indictments in a, in a district that's going to sustain them all the way to trial. And. Yeah, and so I think that's it. Now, in the meantime, just a little bit ago, the President retweeted one of my stories with an admonition to the great Harvard law Professor Alan Dershowitz. You should go do this. What is he talking about? Last night here in Real America's Voice, Alan Dershowitz suggested that the President now had the legal right to go to either the Chief justice of the United States, John Roberts, who presided over the impeachment proceedings of 2019, or to Congress and ask Congress, you ready for this? To vacate, to erase his impeachment because of the evidence that Tulsi Gabbard has now made public of cheating. What is that cheating? They knew President Trump's chief accuser, the alleged whistleblower, the guy who Filed that complaint in August of 2019, had one misled intelligence community in his complaint, two had serious issues of bias, and three, knew nothing firsthand. Everything was hearsay. First, second and third hearsay. Those three elements were kept from the President's defense team, the Senate jurors, the House impeachment managers. Alan Dershowitz said, hey, when this happens in a criminal case, you it's a Brady violation. They usually vacate the conviction. I think the President can go and vacate this impeachment finding in December. Literally erase it from the books through a vote of Congress or by a declaration by the Supreme Court justice. He was the trial judge. The President this morning shared that story and said, alan, you should go do it. I think he just hired Alan Dershowitz. We're trying to get that confirmed, but keep a close eye on that one. Listen, Russia collusion became Ukraine collusion. It was one continuous operation. Then Ukraine handed off to. Yeah, handed off the two other scandals. The whole goal was to pin down Donald Trump with any fake narrative they could get. And now we are unraveling that narrative. I really want to shout out Tulsi, John Radcliffe, all the people who've been working to defeat the state and get me these documents. They had to do a lot of firefights to get these documents clear. They deserve a lot of credit. These are pretty explosive documents.
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Stephen K. Bannon
No, insanely explosive. And Tulsi just been a laboring or on this. Just amazing. I just want to go something though. The vacate. I got it. And that's a historical record. It is a historical record, but the implication of the vacate is that there are a bunch of people that are guilty of crimes to actually bring it and put the nation through that. When do we go to part two in the vacate process? Shifty shift, Swalwell, all of them. There's 20 or 30 of these guys that knew they were lying. Right. Coordinated. They're lying from msnbc, the New York Times, all of it. This is the vast conspiracy. When do we go from the vacay process to let's round them up and throw them in prison process?
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John Solomon
Yeah. Last night there was a big tweet by Cash Patel's chief spokesman at the FBI, his name is Ben Williamson, saying, we've been reviewing this evidence that Tulsi Gabbard made public. It's the same. In fact, he used the same analogy I did, which is, this is Russia collusion 2.0. Why is that important? In these documents are evidence that potentially impeaches the testimony of some of the witnesses at the trial. You're going to see a story from us in a couple days. We're going to show you what was testified to and what now we believe the truth is. That could lead to several people being identified as having given false testimony to Congress in an impeachment proceeding. The statute of limitations on the specific testimonies will have expired. That's the role that the Deep state managed to succeed at. Keep this a secret for six years. But when you move to a conspiracy, once they can show that Russia handed off to Ukraine, Ukraine handed off to January 6, January 6 handed up the classified documents, you can go back and charge some of the people with false statements. I am told last night that the FBI identified two people from these documents that they got who testified something different than what's in the documents. Now, whether that turns out to become part of the criminal case or the conspiracy case, we'll wait and see. But that process is you got to get that conspiracy laid out so that you can go back and charge old crimes that the Deep State managed to keep hidden. But that's what's going on. That's what Jason Canones is doing. That's what Cash Patel is doing. That's what Todd is doing. And I think when you look at that team right now, there's been a lot of motions since Pam Bondi left the Justice Department. Today they finally released the report on how the Face act was weaponized against abortion. Anti abortion advocates or pro life people. What sort of what are we talking about? You had the Biden Justice Department working with anti abortion groups to target pro lifers and infringe their free speech. You see a two to one disparity in sentencing. If you're pro life, you got twice the sentence requested by the Justice Department that you got if you were a pro abortion protester who was arrested. That is a very serious disparity. And today the Justice Department, the Trump Justice Department got right on that and told the American people the truth, John.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And by the way, I'm going to have some of the guys at Danbury, these guys were saints and they were all in for five and 10 years because of this. John, real quickly, where they go, you got like 10 breaking stories. Where do people go?
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John Solomon
Yeah, just the news.com will be the website J. Solomon reports on all social media and I'm lucky enough to follow you every day here at Real America's Voice. Six o', clock, just the news, no noise with the amazing Amanda Head tonight.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We'll toss it to John with the Chinese Ambassador in the Oval with the President I'm sure will come out during Jon's show. John Sama thank you. Short break Faddest on the other side,
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Stephen K. Bannon
Is it to force Iran back to the negotiating table? Is it to open up the straits so the gas prices ultimately come down?
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Sam Faddis
Maybe everything. I mean, both of those things, certainly. And more. We can't let a country blackmail or extort the world because that's what they're doing. They're really blackmailing the world. We're not going to let that happen. And you know, the amazing thing is we don't. Can you believe this? We don't use this rate. We don't need this. Right? We have our own oil, gas, much more than we need. We have more oil and gas in Saudi Arabia. Think of this. We produce more Saudi Arabia and add Russia to it, substantially more. And by next year we'll have double that amount. So we don't need it, but the world needs it.
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Iran Analyst
What they say is that behind closed doors, Iran appears much more eager for a deal than they do publicly because of the country's economic desperation. The other thing that I heard was that Iran projects unity publicly, but also behind closed doors. There's a lot of jockeying for power. You know, after the Supreme Leader was killed, after ruling for 37 years, there's a lot of people who are. Who are vying to be Iran's most powerful official, especially given we don't know the health of Moshe Be Khamenei.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So how.
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Iran Analyst
And we.
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Sam Faddis
That's still unknown.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Has he been seen? Has he.
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Iran Analyst
No, we don't know that he's been seen. The Israelis have said that they believe he's alive. I've also heard from sources in Iran saying he's alive, but we've been told he's. He's roughed up. You know, his health is not great harm's way.
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Military Analyst
Without a strategy, we essentially have strikes. Without strategy or in this instance, an operation, we don't know that it'll work. And that's driving up prices at the gas pump and at the grocery store for all of us. And the real risk here, you mentioned he's the commander in chief. He's also just an improv performer in chief. He's sort of making things up as he goes along. In part, if you remember before the war and in the early days, he couldn't really articulate A clear end goal and objective. It was like a game of three card Monty. He was ever shifting the goalposts and he continues to do that. And that's a risky situation going back to the troops, to the troops that are in the field right now, the equipment, you can't just solve this with tactics. You need smart diplomacy, which is not what we had on display in Islamabad this past weekend.
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News Correspondent
A source familiar with the negotiations telling ABC News the US has now proposed a 20 year suspension to Iran's nuclear program rather than the permanent end the administration has insisted on earlier. According to the New York Times, Iran's countered with an offer of a five year suspension, though there's no word on the administration's response. Since the start of the war, the President promised this conflict would last only four or five weeks. Now with the war entering its seventh week, a fragile cease fires in place as oil and gas prices remain high with no relief in sight.
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News Correspondent (continued)
When I spoke with this person familiar with all of these discussions, essentially this is their hope that they could get a second round of talks. I'm told that internally Trump administration officials are, are looking at different locations and potential dates with the goal of trying to have another in person meeting again with the top officials who were there in Islamabad on, on Saturday, people like the vice president, J.D. vance, Jared Kushner, Steve Wykoff in person with the Iranians before this two week cease fire expires next week on April 21st. Now again, they are preliminary talks and I'm told that's because they need to make sure, sure that when they meet in person a second time, when they have all of these US Officials go abroad to have this meeting, they want to ensure that a deal can be had. Now of course, we saw Saturday's talks stretched 21 hours, a marathon session from my conversations with Trump administration officials, Kate. They said they weren't expecting it to go that long and that there was some progress made. But really at the end of the day, and you kind of heard the Vice President say this during that interview you shared, he felt like perhaps the Iranian officials in the room with them face to face did not have enough authority to make some of the decisions that the Trump team was really pushing on them. And so they're hoping that when a second round could potentially happen, if it potentially happens, they will be in a much closer place. There will be a lot more preparation and pre work that could go into it to really outline, outline the contours of what a final agreement could look like. Now you mentioned some of this but some of the issues that we're told that came up during that Saturday session related to one, the moratorium on enriched uranium. You mentioned it. But that 20 year moratorium the US put forward, the Iranians coming back with a five year one. And really it is the enriched uranium that has been a true sticking point here. Of course, also this commitment that they want to from Iran to say that they would never have a nuclear weapon. All to say the Trump team does seem more optimistic than they had in the aftermath of that meeting on Saturday that a deal can be had. But of course, there's so much going on here. We have to really see how the Iranians respond, especially as we're seeing this now US Blockade on the Strait of Hormuz really designed to put a economic stranglehold hold on the Iranians. We'll have to see if that leverage is enough to push this forward.
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News Correspondent
Blockade, as you say, now in place and amid efforts to restart peace talks. Oil and gas prices remaining high this morning. The U.S. navy blockading Iran. Sixteen U.S. warships are now enforcing President Trump's order to stop all ships entering or departing Iranian ports and coastal areas. Two tankers under US Sanctions turning around as the restrictions went into effect. The Rich Starry, though, now appears to have successfully made it through the Strait of Hormuz, one of three ships to cross today.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Now, we understand that there is a Chinese ship that's been sanctioned by the US Passing through the Strait of Hormuz. Are you hearing anything in Beijing about that?
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That's right, the Starry Rich, which is a mid sized oil tanker. Interestingly, it's a Malawi flagged ship, although it is quite clearly owned by China. And it also broadcasts its own signals as being affiliated with China. We know that it left Dubai yesterday on Monday and actually stopped before the US Trade blockade was announced. And it actually went to do a U turn and then it continued through the Strait of Hormuz. And we know it was the first vessel to pass through the strait since the blockade was imposed on Tuesday. Now, interestingly, as you mentioned, it was actually sanctioned in 2023 by the US for evading its sanctions on Iran. And so really, its passage through the strait raises more questions than it provides answers. First of all, was it allowed by the US to pass through the strait because it was coming from Dubai and not from Iran, or was its passage kind of missed by the US Maybe pointing to how difficult it is to enforce a blockade of that waterway. So I think we have to see how many more ships are able to pass and what, what their affiliations are for. Chinese President Xi Jinping. In the morning he met with the UAE crown Prince who is joined by a rather large delegation of government and industry officials. They're here to strengthen, they say, the comprehensive strategic partnership between the UAE and China. So we're expecting some trade deals to come out of that. And behind closed doors, no doubt. They also discussed the war in Iran after that. President Xi hosted Pedro Sanchez from Spain. Now this is the Spanish leader's fourth visit to China in just a few years. He's been criticized by some in Europe for treating China as a sort of strategic ally rather than an adversary. And he's really spoken about strengthening the ties between Beijing and Madrid for economic reasons. But he also says that the two countries have more in common, that they both respect international law and international order. He's actually calling on Xi Jinping to play a bigger role in the multi polar order and to do more when it comes to the war in Iran. He said at a press conference following his lunch with Xi Jinping that no interlocutor is like China and is like China able to play a key diplomatic role to end this conflict. They also spoke about countries, he mentioned countries that violate international law, that they are only just subjected to two threats, that is Israel. So the Spanish panel minister Pedro Sanchez, they're very critical of Israel and the US moving closer to Beijing
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Stephen K. Bannon
as the one of the engine rooms tell me, which I think is important to keep in mind here. This is no longer. And so we got it like set aside the happy talk and focus on signal and what's going to happen because we want to get the hell out of here because the Middle east is a sideshow and Israel is a sideshow to a sideshow. So we want to get out of there, get back to hemispheric defense and the great war we have in this inside our borders which we're going to talk about in hour two. So this is not about capitulation, just not. It's about negotiation. And hey, there's nobody tougher to negotiate with the Persians. So you got to give them what they call them police work a come along the instrument to do that and you've noticed a sea change in their attitude is this blockade. And don't forget the buried lead ofac the sanctioned ships, Scott Bessens feeding them right there the intelligence services and centcom. Hey, this one, that one, that one.
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News Correspondent
Boom.
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Stephen K. Bannon
These are sanctioned great ship boom. Sorry, sorry, not sorry. Don't care if he came out of uae. Of course the question may Be for our great ally, right? Mbz who's the best we got over there? He's the best of a bad lot. Why is the ship being loaded up? It's an OFAC sanctioned ship. Why is it being loaded up in one of your ports and sent on its merry way? Because we don't have any allies over there. Let's not forget that all of them are double dealing us nonstop. Double dealings as much as bad as the Persians. But Sam Faddis, we do have an instrument that's gotten their attention. Now they're down. I don't know it's 20. First of all I thought the nuclear weapons gonna be in perpetuity get rid of but now it's 20 years for five years. Ba Bing, ba bang. Fine, figure it out. We just want to get the hell out of there. The ambassador to China is running over burning up the phone lines yesterday. Running over to the White House today to go in front of President Trump and make the case. Oh this is horrible. These are international waters. You're gonna destroy the world's economy. You're coming. We're going to have a huge deal in, in, in mid May. Don't ruin it. You got to let us off. Now's the time to put the screws down on even harder. This is why you got to go seize all their assets including in, wait for it the UAE in Dubai, in the bank. Sam Faddis we finally now have people's attention, right? Not under the rubble of Tehran where bombed them. That was part. Okay, that got part of their attention. But this is where you bring them to their knees. What Scott Bessen was doing in January. How did you have millions of people on the streets in January when he destroyed the currency and 30,000 got slaughtered by the ayatollahs and the mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard because he was breaking them financially. We're beginning the process of doing that now. And all the parties that have been trading with them understand that. And the Persians themselves understand that, do they not Sam Fatis.
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Sam Faddis (continued)
They are beginning to understand it Steve. I mean you know my concern is we started this war with apparently this belief we're going to win this thing in a week by decapitating them. That didn't work. Now we're blockading the strait. Okay, that, that's great. I'm all for that. Been advocating it for a long time. In and of itself not enough. I think you just hit the nail on the head when you said you know we pour it on. Okay, that's great guys. You, you gave us the finger in Islamabad and thought you could dictate surrender terms. So watch this. The straits are closed. Now. We ought to be talking to every country with a land border, closing every land border around Iran and we ought to be taking their money that's frozen all over the place. And there shouldn't be any cargo planes landing in Tehran from anywhere. Just keep pouring it on and, and going harder and faster. That is exactly what you need. And at the same time, understand, you know, we underestimated these guys once. They may buckle. I'm all for that. If they do, they may also immediately lash out like they took out that pipeline across Saudi Arabia, the Yanbu. It might take it out again today in about three or four places and the Houthis might join the war and any number of other things. So we ought to be, you know, don't wait for that to happen and then move, move now to prevent them from doing all of those things.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sam, you used the S word, surrender. Is that how they think of it? I tell you what, hold that, hold the answer. I want to get you after the break because I think that sets the mindset in the process. This is clearly a negotiation now with kind of the remainder. You know, we killed the top guys, right? I think we went down to the brigade level. What I was told with the Revolution Guard, we've killed a lot of bad hombres, a lot of them. Guess what? They've got a lot of bad hombres still to go. They've been digging in on this thing for 40 years. And these guys are all in. You know, they're like the believers in the Mahdi. They're dug in. And these people were tested in the Iraq, Iran war, lost a million people. Not a problem. These are hard nuts to crack. We're going to see how we're going to do it next with Sam Fatis in the world.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Sam Faddis (continued)
Sir, I definitely don't think they're defeated. I mean look, you know, hope is not a plan and refusing to face reality doesn't take us to victory. We thought they were going to apparently believed we were going to they were going to collapse immediately. They didn't. They published a 10 point plan in advance of the Islamabad meetings. That was a surrender document. You and I talked about that. We went to Islamabad when we sat down with them in that context having them having ridden out the offensive and still standing and still threatening the Gulf and closing the straits. They absolutely believe they're winning. Now we walked away. We've now taken a major positive step by closing the straits. My concern now we're once again in this mode of well it's about over and they're about to quit. Certainly now they will surrender. You know I'm the happiest guy in the world. If they announce as while you and I are talking here that that that's in fact the case. Wonderful. It's over. Assuming that thinking that suddenly we transformed this I think is is very ill advised pour on the pressure and move right now to counter the things that they may do as they lash out. Because that's cyber attacks. That's every U.S. embassy in the world. That's all the desalination plants in the Gulf. I mean, don't assume that these guys are getting ready to quit again. If it happens, fabulous. But don't get caught off guard again thinking that it's all over but the shouting and we win. We may be a long way from there. We will just turn the screws on them. I mean, that's what you do when you're talking to these guys and it's obvious that they sat down in the room with you and they think you can. They can play you. You don't make nice with them. You get up and walk away from the table and then lay waste to them. That's. And. And then maybe we can talk and you're just really clear about it. Like, I'm going to put, you know, I've had conversations where I've said to the guy I'm talking to, this is the deal. And if you don't take the deal, we're putting the JDAM through the roof of your building and it's blowing up on your desk. That's where we are. Now, do you want to talk or not? That. I mean, you know, not to be melodramatic. That is the way you have to approach it. Do not underestimate that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And they have to know that you're prepared to put it on their desk.
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Sam Faddis (continued)
Right?
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Stephen K. Bannon
I mean, they have to know.
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Sam Faddis (continued)
They have to know that that's. And every once in a while, you got to do it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Exactly. Sam, where do people go? And magazine. I'm gonna get you on tomorrow or I'll bug you. See if you can come on tomorrow because there's a piece on war on the rocks that talks about a tactical victory in a strategic defeat for the United States of America right now in the Iran war. So I'll get your thoughts on to we and Shawna today and get you back on tomorrow. Where do they go to get Ann magazine putting up great stuff.
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Sam Faddis (continued)
And magazine. And magazine Substack, AMD magazine.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sam Fatis, thank you so much, sir. Changing your day around to join us here in the war room. Okay, a lot to talk about inside the Wire. Where are we headed economically? Grassroots efforts, immigration. Rosemary Jinx is going to join us. And special treat, we're going to Ireland. Kevin Posovic in Dublin next in the room.