THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON EPISODE #4848

Summary

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THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON EPISODE #4848

Date: October 13, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Featured Guests: Patrick K. O'Donnell, Dave Walsh

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Overview:

This episode of The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon centers on three main themes:

1. Historic Middle East Developments: Analysis of new peace accords, shifting alliances, and the reordering of regional power, especially centered around Egypt and Gaza.
2. U.S.-China Economic Conflict: Discussion on rising tensions with the CCP, economic warfare, and the looming threat surrounding rare earths and global supply chains.
3. The 250th Anniversary of the U.S. Navy: A celebratory discussion of the Navy’s origins, historical significance, and the interplay of military, economic, and social resilience in American identity.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Middle East Peace Developments (Egypt-Gaza Accord)

[02:36 – 07:46, 21:12 – 29:00]

• Trump’s Diplomatic Push:

  • President Trump’s whirlwind visit to Israel and Egypt.
  • Emphasized strong personal relationships with leaders such as Egypt’s President El Sisi and Turkey’s President Erdogan.
  • The newly signed peace accord at the Egyptian Red Sea resort is characterized by Bannon as a major reordering in the Middle East.
  • “This is the first time the Middle east crisis has brought people together as opposed to driving them apart... The nations of the earth, including the most powerful nations in Western Europe, all of the most powerful nations in the Arab and Muslim world gathered today on the shores of the Red Sea and signed a document.” — Steve Bannon [21:12]

• Exclusion of Israel:

  • Netanyahu and Israeli officials were notably absent or minimally involved.
  • “Netanyahu was not invited, not in the room, not in the deal when the negotiation of those points took place.” — Steve Bannon [24:00]
  • Turkey’s Erdogan refused to attend if Netanyahu was invited, highlighting the shifting regional power dynamics.

• Gaza’s Future:

  • Multi-country pact commits financial resources to Gaza’s reconstruction.
  • Stipulation: 2 million Palestinians in Gaza will not be relocated.
  • Gaza to be demilitarized, with a new, honest civilian police force and security provided by an “Arab or Muslim legion,” coordinated by Turkey and others, not the U.S. military [22:16].
  • “There is going to be some coordinating factor from Doha, from Centcom... but it will be kind of an Arab or Muslim legion that will provide the security coordinated by Turkey, the Ottoman Empire and the caliphate.” — Steve Bannon [22:54]

• The Two-State Solution Reality:

  • Bannon argues a de facto two-state solution is now being engineered, funded by Gulf money and backed by Turkish arms [24:00].

Notable Quote:

“This is the primal scream of a dying regime, Gene. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.” — Steve Bannon [07:46]

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2. U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Conflict

[08:07 – 13:00, 29:00 – 31:13, 53:38 – 56:30]

• Chinese Economic Warfare:

  • The CCP is actively restricting exports of critical component parts—especially heavy rare earth minerals essential for American industry.
  • Bannon notes, “You got guys on CNBC today and in the Financial Times saying, hey, we should have stockpiled these things. Yes, yes, yes.” [09:35]
  • Reminds listeners this threat was predicted years prior on his show, recalling the East China Sea incident with Japan (2015) as precedent.

• Threat of Dollar De-Internationalization:

  • Bannon highlights efforts by China and BRICS to move away from the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency.
  • “If we're not going to have it, it should be through a national discussion that it's a decision made by citizens... That’s not what's happening now.” [53:38]

• Gold as a Hedge:

  • The current geopolitical environment has caused gold to surge—“Gold blew through $4,100 today. That is a world of sophisticated investors saying, yo, I think I need part of my assets in physical gold.” — Steve Bannon [31:13]
  • Cautions listeners to safeguard themselves financially.

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3. Ukraine and Ongoing War Zones

[09:50 – 13:00, 29:00 – 31:13]

• Continued Brutality in Ukraine:

  • Focus on the staggering levels of death and destruction: “Slaughter in Ukraine, with... close to 2 million dead and wounded on the Ukrainian side.” — Steve Bannon [13:00]
  • President Trump’s empathy for hostage families is contrasted with the scale of bloodshed and lack of clear endgame.

• Upcoming U.S. Policy Decisions:

  • Upcoming meetings between President Trump, Zelensky, and Netanyahu to include possible discussions about providing Tomahawk missiles and America’s deepening involvement in “the bloodlands” [08:48, 29:00].

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4. The 250th Anniversary of the U.S. Navy

[36:08 – 47:21]

• History and Significance:

  • Patrick K. O’Donnell, combat historian, recounts the Navy’s humble beginnings in 1775, unauthorized by Congress, with fishing boats armed as privateers.
  • “A fishing boat that was outfitted by [Washington] to attack the greatest navy in the world... These are the humble origins of the United States Navy.” — Patrick K. O’Donnell [38:34]
  • Highlights John Glover’s key role and the Navy as a symbol of emerging American sovereignty.

• Military Culture and American Grit:

  • Bannon draws comparisons between American and British naval traditions, emphasizing innovation, self-reliance, and the willingness to defy institutions for the country’s survival [41:31].

• Legacy and Reflection:

  • Recommendation of O’Donnell’s books “Washington’s Immortals” and “The Indispensables.”
  • Quotes emphasizing endurance and pride:

    “America's Navy never, ever gives up the ship. We own the skies, we stalk the depths, and we rule the seas. God bless the United States Navy.” — Steve Bannon [37:04]

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5. U.S. Energy Crisis & AI/Data Center Expansion

[47:31 – 60:42]

• Surging Energy Demand:

  • Dave Walsh discusses how data center and AI expansion are outpacing electric grid capacity, especially in VA, MD, NJ, FL.
  • Ratepayers face skyrocketing costs (up to 4x in NJ, 50% in MD) as utilities prioritize AI/data center clients.
  • “New Jersey looks like going up by a factor of four times. Maryland by a factor of potentially 50% in the next couple of years.” — Dave Walsh [49:14]

• Solar Power vs. Natural Gas:

  • Walsh critiques solar expansion as a costly, unreliable choice over natural gas.
  • Points to power company lobbying and PAC donations influencing policy, with Florida Governor DeSantis “certainly aware,” yet all new capacity during his tenure has been solar [59:19].
  • “This is related to the donations to PACs from the power companies... They dominate politics in Florida.” — Dave Walsh [60:01]

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Notable Exchanges & Memorable Moments

On the Middle East Accord:

• “You played a very important role. I appreciate it very much.” — Steve Bannon, on Egypt's President El Sisi’s role in mediating between Israel and Hamas [03:46]
• “A total reordering of the Middle east happened today. Not in Jerusalem, it happened in the resort on the shores of the Red Sea in Egypt.” — Bannon [14:55]

On the U.S. Navy:

• “When you are starting to build and outfit vessels, you are creating a sovereign nation. The first flag is the appeal to heaven.” — Patrick K. O’Donnell [44:07]

Economic Threats:

• “If you don't have decoupled, they're going to put a gun to your head one day when they think they've got you.” — Steve Bannon [29:00]

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Structure & Flow

• The episode cycles between geopolitical analysis (Middle East, Ukraine, China), military history, and cutting analysis on America’s internal vulnerabilities (energy, economy).
• Bannon’s tone is as urgent and combative as ever, intermixing history lessons and present-day warnings, with a populist, fighting spirit.

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Timestamps: Segment Guide

| Time | Segment/Topic | |--------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:36 | Trump’s Egypt/Israel diplomacy; peace deal framework | | 07:46 | Bannon’s call to action, intro to big geopolitics | | 08:07 | CCP rare earth crisis & U.S. economic vulnerability | | 21:12 | The Red Sea Accord: a new Middle East order | | 24:00 | Two-state reality and shifting power structures | | 36:08 | U.S. Navy 250 history with Patrick K. O’Donnell | | 47:31 | U.S. energy, AI, data centers, Florida and NJ crisis | | 53:38 | De-dollarization, gold, the future of U.S. currency | | 56:41 | Walsh: Florida’s energy “solar madness”, DeSantis critique |

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Final Takeaways

• This episode frames October 13, 2025, as a turning point in Middle East history, arguing that America is a witness—sometimes sidelined—by new alliances and the empowerment of regional actors (Turkey, Qatar, Egypt, Gulf states).
• It draws a straight line from the grit of the American Revolution and the Navy’s origins to today’s challenges—be they rare earths, energy shortages, or the global role of the U.S. dollar—appealing to a story of resilience, vigilance, and skepticism of elites.
• Bannon and guests warn that, both abroad and at home, American power and freedom rest on the alertness and pushback of “the people,” echoing the era’s signature blend of populism, historical reverence, and combative urgency.

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Transcript

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Time like I think nobody's seen before. And we had tremendous stop as you know, in Israel. And now we're in a country where a friend of mine is a very powerful leader, and my friend is right here, the president, also the general. You know, sometimes I call him. Usually I call him the general because he's both and he's good at both. And they've done a fantastic job. And they have very little crime, you know, because they don't play games. That's why they don't play games like we do in the United States, with governors that have no idea what they're doing, but they don't have crime. I ask about crime, and they almost don't even know what I'm talking about. So it's a great tribute to this man. He's done a fantastic job in bringing this country together, and the United States is with him all the way. And they had a very important role with Hamas. In fact, the general was right here, was very instrumental because Hamas respects this country and they respect the leadership of Egypt. So we had a. You played a very important role. I appreciate it very much.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you very much.

[Steve Bannon (Speech Segment)]

It's a tremendous day for the Middle east. And you can see that this is probably the greatest assemblage of countries in terms of wealth and power maybe ever assembled. And it's just an honor to be a part of it. We're going to be signing a document that's going to spell out a lot of rules and regulations and lots of other things, and it's very comprehensive. But we've already signed documents in the Middle east and having to do with Israel and Hamas and just about everything else. And it's. It's really working out incredibly well. The hostages, as you know, were let go on time, on schedule. The very sad situation of bodies, which was always a sad situation, and they're being sought out and they're working with many different people, finding some were brought in and some were not, and they're working out to find out where those bodies are. It's hard to believe that you even have to say something like that. It's so sad. It's so sad. But what's not sad is that we have finally, after, I guess they say, 3,000 years. I've heard from 3,000 years to 500 years. But whatever it is, it's a lot. But this was the one. This was the granddaddy of them all. And frankly, I thought this was probably going to be the toughest, and maybe in many ways it was. But we had a lot of good talent. Steve Witkoff, Jared and Marco and Pete and General Kane was so great. John Ratcliffe was incredible. We had an amazing array of talent. Today, for the first time anyone can remember, we have a once in a lifetime chance to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds behind. And that's why so many people in this room, they didn't get along. Some did, some didn't, but they're getting along now. This has brought the people together. This is the first time the Middle east crisis has brought people together as opposed to driving them apart. And to declare that our future will not be ruled by the fights of the generations past, which is foolish. So together, let us continue in the spirit of cooperation and goodwill that is finally brought us to this incredible historic breakthrough. If we do, together, we will reach the Middle East's incredible destiny. A safe and prosperous and beautiful crossroads of culture and commerce, faith in humanity and geographic center. This will be the geographic center of the world. We've all agreed that supporting Gaza must be done to lift up the people themselves. But we don't want to fund anything having to do with bloodshed, hatred or terror, as has happened in the past. And for the same reason, we're also agreed that Gaza's reconstruction requires that it be demilitarized and that a new honest civilian police force must be allowed to create a safe condition for the people in Gaza. So you have Armenia and you have Bahrain, you have Canada. That's so great to have. In fact, the President called and he wanted to know if it's worthwhile. He knew exactly what it was. He knew the importance. Where's Canada, by the way? Where are you? Where are you? He knew the importance of this. He said, I want to be there. So many people have done that. They called. I mean, they heard about it. And these are not people that can do that very easily. They have pretty big schedules to put it in. My the most powerful people. And I appreciate you being here very much, Mr. President. Fantastic, fantastic. I'm glad you upgraded me to President.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime, Gene. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Monday, the 13th of October in the year of our Lord 2025. It is both Columbus Day and it is also the 250th anniversary commemoration of the birth of the United States Navy. Patrick K. O' Donnell is going to join us. I want to make sure that even given everything we did with Navy 250, that we don't miss the actual date itself. And Patrick, the best combat historian of his generation, is going to join us here this afternoon. So the president took was in Israel for eight hours and then he went to Egypt and I think he ran over the clock there. So he's now airborne, I believe. We'll be back at the White House around midnight to focus on two pressing priorities. Zelinsky, our favorite guy here at the White House. Right back in. Right. And back in Netanyahu is going to come to the White House on Friday and they're going to have a a quite important meeting where they're going to talk about really America's commitment to this war in the bloodlands and particularly maybe potentially Tomahawk missiles or other offensive missiles. Anyway, the whole discussion and strategic discussion about the kinetic part of the Third World War, which we're deep into, will be discussed then between now and then when the president gets back. A pressing concern is the actual breakout of blatant economic warfare by the Chinese Communist Party against the United States of America. This comes with a letter the the Chinese Communist Party Xi sending notifications to countries about component parts and about trade restrictions and controls. Part A big part of this gets down to rare earths, particularly heavy rare earths that are used in our industrial process. And people have argued that particularly with magnets and these other things that President Trump thought they worked out a rapprochement or an accommodation back in June with Scott Besant and Peter Navarro and our trade representative that we had worked at a rapprochement. The Chinese Communist Party does not look at it like that. They look at this as a leverageable moment. And this is quite serious. You've got guys on CNBC today and in the Financial Times saying, hey, we should have stockpiled these things. Yes, yes, yes, yes. We talked about this on Breitbart radio in 2015 when in the East China Sea was shut down by the Chinese Communist Party, not the South China Sea, the East China Sea was shut down and they shut down rare earths. They Threatened rare earth shut off to Japan for its industrial process because of an issue with fishing boats that were really PLA spy boats vessels. It got pretty gnarly on air rights and navigation rights into the East China Sea. And the first time the CCP used rare earths. And if I remember correctly, I think we had a guy named Erik Prince and others on the show. We were doing the Daily show at that time, had them on the Daily Show. We said, this is a very big deal because the Japanese could actually vapor lock on manufacturing. That's what the President faces when he gets back. The reality of the two major conflicts on the Eurasian landmass. One, an advanced military conflict bloodier than the first couple of years of World War II. That would be in Ukraine, with no sign of abatement. And President Trump, the empathetic President Trump, which Kurt Mills I think today on the overnight show did such a great job. And President Trump listening, taking an hour, as tired as he must have been to spend an hour with the hostages families, hearing their heart, rendering stories of what they went through as hostages over the last year. President Trump clearly very moved by the slaughter. And that's what it is, the slaughter in Ukraine, with I think now getting close to 2 million dead and wounded on the Ukrainian side, a million to a million and a half wounded on the Russian side. These numbers are just horrific. Something else that President Trump is going to see that I think is going to be a quite big issue. And you know, Kurt Mills is a quite controversial figure, but nobody I've known CURT now for 10, 15 years, he's one of the smartest guys around. He said, hey, because Dave Bratt made this brilliant point about transparency. And over the next couple of days, you're going to see transparency, both on the hostages side of what they really went through, but also as people start getting into Gaza. And the footage we've seen coming out of Gaza is pretty horrific. Kurt Mills referred to it as the world's biggest crime scene. And what's going to happen, because a lot of the media or some of the media haven't been into certain areas of town. There's going to be, I think, as Kurt said, a cyclone of media, and we're going to have to see how it falls out. So on that front, there's a lot more to come. President Trump has to deal with, really two wars, One, an economic war with the Chinese Communist Party, which they're looking for a diverted America because it's one of their basics of their philosophy of military endeavor, is a enemy or an opponent that is totally focused on something else. They have a history of striking at that moment. I know the people around President Trump are quite aware of this. Of course, Friday was Zelensky and Tomahawk missile. So once again, a day that starts off with a historic day. And the historic part of this, to be blunt, was what happened in Egypt. And people should take this. You know, President Trump has a very strong personal relationship with Erdogan. Now, I'm not a fan of Erdogan's, but the president thinks very highly of Erdogan, so highly that the President of the United States. Now we know the story. The President of the United States en route. And once he got to Israel, got General El Sisi on the phone, and he's very close to El Sisi. You saw at the beginning how highly he speaks of El Sisi. And this comes from the fact that El Sisi is really the first international figure he met in the 2016, during the UN in the race against Hillary Clinton. And President Trump's the first person he met. And they got along famously. In fact, El Sisi canceled the meeting with Hillary Clinton, said, don't need to see her. I think this guy's going to win. And I like the cut of his jib. He convinced El Sisi to invite Netanyahu had not been part of this. I think that was part of political reasons. El Sisi just can't be seen having, given the controversy of Egypt's relationships with Israel in the past and driving peace deals. It's quite controversial. Sadat was assassinated for his role in that. So he was not invited. The president worked El Sisi and El Sisi gave a invitation. Now, we know from reporting from major news sources is that Erdogan was in the air from Turkey. Coming in, Erdogan said, ho, ho, hang on for a second, let me get this right. Netanyahu has been invited. Well, here's what we're going to do. And to the President, El Sisi, if Netanyahu comes, I'm out. And since the Turks are providing the security force for Gaza. You see where I'm going on this? Am I telegraphing this too much? A total reordering of the Middle east happened today. Not in Jerusalem, it happened in the resort on the shores of the Red Sea in Egypt. What did President Trump say? We're going to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds in back of us. And this is now the new geographic system, center of the world. He has a very strong relationship with Turkey, with Erdogan, with Egypt with El Sisi, with the family that runs Qatar very close. He's given him an Article 5 protection. Article 5 protection for Qatar and of course NBZ and UAE. You could tell in the spring meeting. I think MBZ and probably President Trump have the strongest relationship. Those four relationships are all stronger than the one he has with Netanyahu. I know Seb Gorka, my good friend Dr. Seb Gorka I've worked with for years, think very highly of. We do come down on different differently on this topic and he said my comments today were risible about Tel Aviv, Levin and the Israel first crowd. But them is just the facts doc. Just a fact. It's very obvious what's happening here. A Palestinian state with 2 million Palestinians is being created in the Gaza Strip with Gulf Emirate money and Turkish arms. This is the Turks who would not come to a meeting if Netanyahu was there. Think about that for a second. Short break. Back in a moment.

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When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?

[Steve Bannon]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfakh]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Steve Bannon]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfakh]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfakh]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Ben Ferguson]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfakh]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Steve Bannon]

What difference at this point does it make?

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[Dave Walsh]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

It's really repulsive what Gaza looks like. And as people start going through there, as we say in the Navy, I think you should stand by for some heavy roles because I think on this topic of transparency, what happened to the hostage is terrible. We still don't know about October 7th and the reason we don't know about October 7th is Netanyahu's government has blocked any attempt to have an inquiry, formal inquiry, and to get to the bottom of it. And as an American citizen, I think we should all demand that we know exactly what went on until we buy into any more of what's happening over there. But with the most powerful nations on earth signing a document, a deal, a 20 point deal with huge commitments of financial resources to rebuild, a commitment that the 2 million Palestinians will not leave Gaza, will not leave Gaza. They will not be driven out into the Sinai to live in tents or die or Ethiopia, you know, the Horn of Africa. All those crackpot ideas, and they were crackpot ideas have all been thrown aside. In addition, there's a working of a security guarantee which looks like would not have American troops, which obviously we would oppose dramatically. We don't need to do that. There is going to be some coordinating factor from Doha, from centcom, in fact the Amberlynn Charter, centcom, if you saw today in the footage of at the Knesset, they had three or four American generals and an admiral and a couple of generals there they are. I think the CENTCOM commanders are the heads of centcom and aspects of the secretary of the War Department, Pete Hexis was there. That will be part of this. But it will be a, you got to call it, what is it, kind of an Arab or Muslim legion that will provide the security coordinated by Turkey, the Ottoman Empire and the caliphate. And we know what Erdogan is about the caliphate. Those are just facts. Netanyahu was not invited, not in the room, not in the deal when the negotiation of those points took place. Ambassador Dermer and Ron Dermer is a good man, if you ever know him. He's a good man. He's obviously one of Netanyahu's top guys. He's been ambassador here, really knows Washington, knows the Trump, knows Jared very well, knows Witkoff, knows the entire, knows Maga, a good man. He was not really part of the negotiations. They really weren't looking for Israel's inputs. And I Hate to be so blunt about it, but there's so much happy talk coming out of the Israel first crowd that just doesn't face reality. Reality is you got yourself a two state solution and not just a two state solution, but a two state solution with big time muscle in back of the Palestinians, big time money from the Gulf Emirates and big time security from the combination of Muslim and Arab nations who we've been selling arms to and training their military for decade after decade after decade, including a NATO member, I might add, which is Turkey, that will seize up the same Turkey that at the very mention that Netanyahu was even coming, had been offered an invitation, told him in the air. If that is the case and Netanyahu is coming, I'm turning my jet around even though I'm in Egyptian airspace. I want you to contemplate that to what reality is. That's reality and people can put the spin on it anyway. But what's going to happen in Judea Samaria is not going to be any more Israel if the historic homeland and heart of it, of which I've said, hey, there's, there's a compelling argument there and this is why on a Christian state, which I say, if you don't have a Christian, if you don't have a Christian state within 20 years, I'm not sure you're going to have Israel. Joel Gilbert today, independent filmmaker, a very smart guy about the, the region and obviously took, he, he said some things about gazing the Palestinians that are maybe not backed up. And you know, he got called down a little bit by Kurt Mills. They got into it a little bit, that's fine. People have different opinions and maybe garner facts in their own way. But Joe Gilbert's even more, he's more adamant than I am about the political defeat of Netanyahuism in this endeavor. And of course Tel Aviv Levin is out saying about, you know, President Trump said about the bombing and the bombing and the bombing was so central. Come on man, knock it off. The bombing was not about the bombing was to shut down any chance that Netanyahu would be able to drive President Trump to support regime change and to finish the argument totally of total obliteration. And also Netanyahu not learning his lesson because what he did there was try to decapitate the Iranian command, particularly to kill the negotiators. He didn't want to negotiate a deal. They killed the negotiators, they targeted the negotiators. Witkoff couldn't go to a meeting because they were all dead or at Least purported to be dead. I think later it came turned out that they all were not dead, but they were targeted. But he killed the Hamas guys weeks later without getting President Trump's authority or even a fare thee well, no indication. All till the missiles I think were airborne. That, as I keep saying, you got to go pretty far in the woods to hit President Trump's tripwire. And that's where it hit it. And the outcome of that is what you saw today. If you wanted the signal that was by the Red Sea, if you wanted the noise, that was what's happening in Israel. It's a celebratory day. But the generations in 67 and 73 that built Israel and took on every Arab army that did sneak attacks from 48 to 67 to 73, they would have never found themselves in this situation. I understand, and particularly President Trump understands because he spent an hour with the families just hearing their stories and sitting there and asking questions so he could hear more. A man that came off an eight hour red eye and had to do one major evolution after the other. He cleared time and actually became very late getting to Egypt to hear their stories. At the end of the day, it was 20 hostages. And I realized Israel's celebrating. And I think that says more about the therapeutic society than the culture they in the United States used to have. Is what I'm saying hard and tough? Yes, it's hard and tough. That's one of the reasons I have people watch the film 12 O' Clock High. 12 O' Clock High is one of the hardest movies you'll ever watch about war, where they understand the sacrifices that have to be made. And quite frankly, the sacrifices that you don't get any say so in that you're just going to be, you are expendable. And you're going to be expendable. You're going to be expendable for a greater cause. Today did change. It was an inflection point in the Middle east and you're not going to unwind it. You're not going to unwind it. So I think we have to be realistic. But I stick by what I said at the National, National Conservatism Convention. I think I gave the keynote that wrapped it up or close to wrapping it up in the geopolitical world today, where President Trump has to deal with the bloodlands this week and is America going to get engaged as a supplier of offensive, become an offensive combatant on the supply side, which changes. Russia's already said, hey, if this thing goes down like this NATO's open open season. That is going to be a major, major thing, thing that will change this country's life and your life. But that even pales in comparison to what the Chinese Communist Party's doing. The Chinese Communist Party understands they have amazing, they have incredible leverage over us right now. We have said this now for years and years and years. If you've listened to the show that we warned, we have to decouple. And yeah, decouple may, may have a couple of speed bumps in it, but if you don't have decoupled, they're going to put a gun to your head one day when they think they've got you. And President Trump, I think, has already bounced off the 100% tariffs. But I might add, don't take it from Steve Bannon. Let's take it from the market of something that's been a hedge for 5,000 years.

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[Dave Walsh]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

Because we are in very uncertain times geopolitically, financially. And the market's telling you something. Of course, the stock market came back today because President Trump said, I'm not going to hit him with 100% terrorists. But the Chinese Communist Party is playing smash mouth here. They're playing smash mouth. That's basically the way they know how to play. And President Trump put a true socialist said, hey, look, Xi had a bad day. He and I are friends. We're going to work this out. We only wish good to the Chinese people and to China. Of course, we in the war room always wish well to Lao Baijing, the Chinese people. But unfortunately, they're under the rule of the worst, most brutal dictatorship in modern history. And as I've said many times, I include the Nazis in that. I include Stalin, I include the Bolsheviks, I include Pol Pot. Let's throw the imperial Japanese high command. You know, you pick them. And that this week are the two major events. President Trump going back to Washington to work with Scott Bessant and others to deal with the Chinese Communist Party and then to sit down with Zelensky. This guy does not get a second. This trip today was a day trip. He took a red eye, flew there to Israel first. Total historic what he did in Israel, then goes to Egypt, then gets on a plane and comes back. He'll be there for Charlie Kirk's the awarding of Charlie Kirk of the Presidential Medal of Freedom tomorrow. Short break.

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[Leon Neyfakh]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why.

[Steve Bannon]

Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfakh]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Steve Bannon]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfakh]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfakh]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Ben Ferguson]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfakh]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon (Speech Segment)]

The U.S. navy has always been the iron will of a proud and mighty nation, pushing forward through the currents and through the spray of raging combat and the fog of naval war. From the American Revolution until today, the story of the US Navy is a tale of loyalty, sacrifice and commitment stretching back 250 years. The Navy has never failed to hunt, kill and and to win. Through it all, the United States Navy has kept the Stars and Stripes soaring high and proud above you've conquered raging oceans and braved ferocious storms to vanquish America's enemies. America's Navy never, ever gives up the ship. We own the skies, we stalk the depths, and we rule the seas. God bless the United States Navy.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow, I love that. And Real Clear Defense, which is one of the most prominent sites around aggregation site, sister site to Real Clear Markets and Real Clear Politics, put up a special on our Navy 250. And Cleo Pascal, myself and others talking about the geopolitics of the 21st century. I'm gonna have Cleo's actually with Admiral Masso and others in Philadelphia at the parade. And also the dinner tonight for the Navy's 250. We've got my favorite combat historian Patrick K. O' Donnell joins us. Patrick, walk us through this. You've been in bed with the Marines, by the way. We're doing Marine Corps 250, although the Marine Corps is 10, I think November. We're going to do the Marine Corps 250 this Saturday from Camp Pendleton. We're going to start with the war room at 10am in the morning Eastern Daylight Time and go all throughout the day. You won't want to miss this. As one of the former Marines that knows Cleo very well and watched watched the Navy said, tell Bannon the Marines are really looking forward when he does the men's department, department of the Navy. So we love the Marine Corps. It's Going to be very special. Already know from the guys putting it on, it's going to be incredible. So, Patrick K. O', Donnell, you've been in bed with the Marines. You know the naval traditions, the importance of the Navy and building the country. The floor is yours, sir.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Well, I have a great article in our in Breitbart on the front page Today on the 250th anniversary of the Navy, which has some very humble origins. A fishing boat that was outfitted by. To attack the greatest navy in the world at the time, the British Navy. And they went after, they went after the supply ships. And it's really a remarkable story. And that begins when Washington arrives in Cambridge in the summer of 1775. And to his utter horror, he realizes that his men only have 30 to 40 cartridges in their cartridge box. They could not repel the British if they attack out of Boston. It was a very. They were very challenged by the lack of gunpowder. First thing he does is actually takes the riflemen that come up and puts them out and demonstrates how accurate they are, these snipers. And then they start taking off British heads, keeping people, their heads down. But then he has to come up with an idea on how to get more gunpowder. And he decides to, to go to the man that's actually guarding his camp, John Glover, who has a number of naval ships, they trade across the world. And Glover's mariners have their own ships that they've been trading, you know, for years. And he decides to outfit one of his fishing boats with four guns and then go after British supply ships. And this ship is called the Hanna. It's the summer of 1775, and this is the humble origins of the United States Navy. And it's all done without congressional approval. Washington authorizes Glover to outfit the boat behind the back of Congress. And Glover is.

[Steve Bannon]

Who is broke.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Exactly. And there's a fascinating story because you are able to own cannons at this time, unlike, you know, what Joe Biden said and John Glover has is, you know, a number of cannons that they used on their ships to protect themselves against pirates and other vessels. And you know, there's a kind of great get off my lawn story where in 1773, they, they help with. They create a smallpox hospital in Marblehead and, and the Loyalists in the town aren't having it. And they surround Glover's house, but he takes one of these four pound guns and puts it in the foyer of his house. As the mob surrounds the house, he orders the front door thrust open. And he has a torch in his Hand. And he says, disperse. And the people, you know, this crowd of loyalists with pitchforks and torches dispersed. That's at the site of.

[Steve Bannon]

That's quite Trumpian.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

That's MAGA John Glover, who has this now boat that's going out with four pound guns, four of them. And they then attack the. You know, they have a letter of mark basically. To act as privateers.

[Steve Bannon]

Exactly. Hang on. They were all freebooters and privateer. Privateers. Letters of mark. It's an amazing story. Here's. I want people to keep in mind. The Royal Navy as an institution became one of the most powerful and important institutions in world history. It's the way that. And they started as freebooters. They started with Francis Drake and these guys just taking 20% off the top and giving the rest of the crown as freebooters. But they built an institution that changed world history and built the British Empire. This is how a small island nation became a global, you know, global dominance. Really a small island nation that didn't have a tremendous maritime history at the time. They kind of learned it and then built an institution. That institution, when you have supply ships, the logistics of it, the coordination. If you go back and look at the World Navy at the time, it ran like a Swiss watch. It was so organized and down to everything, every move, the way the crews worked, the way the officers trained things, the way you had logistics trains and you had the boats that would go and escort. It was highly sophisticated. And here a bunch collection of freebooters with a letter of mark from a government that doesn't really even exist. The Continental Congress and Washington, because the Continental Congress is broke. He's not even looking for. If he goes and asks for money, they're going to say no. So this is. I'm going to beg forgiveness, then ask permission. He tells. Just put some guns, put some guns on the boat and just go out there and take them on.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

They put the guns on the boat and they go after supply ships. And the first ship that they capture is. It's a. It's a ship that is manned by British sailors. And they are extremely excited to have their first prize. And they bring it into port and they realize that the British have just. They have recaptured a ship that was owned by a member of Congress, John Langdon. And what happens is Washington is horrified. But the men, these marbleheaders have said, look, hey, we barely got it. This was a British ship, that was a prize ship. And what happens is you have one of the first mutinies that takes place and the crew literally Mutinies on board. I tell the story in the Indispensables and Washington quells it. And then they go back out and they start to hunt. But this is the organ. What's amazing about this story, Steve, is this is the beginning of sovereignty for a. We're not even a United States yet. A collection of states. But when you are starting to build and outfit vessels, you are creating a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation has vessels. The first flag is the appeal to heaven. And that comes from these ships as well. This is Washington's Navy or Washington's cruisers. And it's all done behind Congress for several weeks and then eventually, on October 13th today, 250 years ago, Congress makes the authorization to. To outfit armed vessels to go against Great Britain. And it's then that Washington reveals that he has his own secret navy.

[Leon Neyfakh]

Which.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Then falls into, think about it, the Continental.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, after Lexington and Concord, after the siege of Boston, Bunker Hill. These guys are smart guys. It's just like the run up to World War I before Pearl Harbor. These guys. This is 1775, folks. Fourth of July, Independence Day, the Declaration, signing the declarations. Not till next July 4th in 1776. And then immediately, the largest expeditionary forces we have every year on Peter we have Patrick K. O' Donnell on our 4th of July special to talk about what was already coming to Staten island in the, in the vast armada that was going to be there. Patrick, we got to bounce. I want everybody. Grace, if you put this story up, everybody go to Breitbart. We're going to put it up for this amazing story.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

It's also on my my Twitter account at combat historian and Patrick kodonald.com the book is the Indispensables. It tells the story of the first Navy. And this is asymmetric warfare, Steve. This causes the insurance rates to skyrocket on all commercial vessels and its economic war against Great Britain.

[Steve Bannon]

If you want to read two books back to back, they'll explain the revolution to you like nobody's business. Like you're reading a novel, Washington's Immortals, about that amazing regiment coming out of. Coming out of Maryland. And then the indispensables. Just incredible about the the men of Marblehead. The cussedness. The cussedness and grit. We stand on the shoulders of giants. When you read these books, you're in awe virtually every page. Patrick K. O', Donnell, one more time, where's your social media?

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Where do people go get you Ombathistorian on X and getter and patrickkodonnell.com youm can also order the books are bestsellers. We're almost at 2000 five star reviews for the indispensables on Amazon.com come on man. It's been a runaway bestseller for many years.

[Steve Bannon]

We, we got, we got, we got to get 5,000 five star. It's a classic. Thank you sir.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Appreciate you honored thank you Steve to.

[Steve Bannon]

Go from something you should be very proud of about your country, kind of the grit of the American, you know, working man and woman building this country to something that you're not going to not going to love. Here's what I don't get. Dave Walsh they're telling me that if you backed out Datacenter investment that GDP would only be like 0.1%. I don't totally believe that. But everything as you warned us on AI, on the AI bubble or the job apocalypse is driven by energy. And maybe water is a subset, but energy, what is going on? We got a governor's race in New Jersey that's going to come down, I think to about energy and out of control energy prices that are runaway. And down in Florida, you still haven't sorted out that mess with Florida Power and Light. Sir.

[Dave Walsh]

They'Re working on it now. The, the data center AI thing, the tip of the spear in the country for the moment is Virginia, northern Virginia, Pennsylvania over to New Jersey and Maryland, northern Washington where you've got the biggest concentration of AI in data centers. And now this battle and the growth of AI between ratepayers who are short of electricity in PJM that those states are in PJM Ford auction prices up by a factor of 10 times for electric power because of the existing shortage of electricity. Now you've got AI owners demanding gigawatt thousand megawatt, 2000 megawatt generation facilities to be built to steal electrification resources from ratepayers. So you got a big battle and it comes, it comes to the fore in the electricity rates. New Jersey looks like going up by a factor of four times. Maryland by a factor of potentially 50% in the next couple of years. And even Pennsylvania in a region particularly full of natural gas because of this domination now of demand on top of the existing shortage we've been talking about for three years due to solar and wind shortage now accelerated by AI data centers.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Short break.

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[Leon Neyfakh]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?

[Steve Bannon]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfakh]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Steve Bannon]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfakh]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfakh]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Benghazi is A Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Ben Ferguson]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfakh]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Steve Bannon]

What difference at this point does it make?

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[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

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[Leon Neyfakh]

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[Ted Cruz]

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Host, Stephen K. Band. Birchgold.com One of the big things the Chinese Communist Party is trying to do is de dollarization. Working with the BRICS nations, but also working with others to make sure transactions are now not converted into dollars. They're trying to break the dollars, the prime reserve currency. If that happens, it will not be good. I am not saying we need to be the prime reserve currency. We have to, because tons of obligations internationally come with it. But if we're not going to have it, it should be through a national discussion that it's a decision made by citizens of the United States of America. That's not what's happening now. We're being driven into it. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon. The end of the dollar empire. Get it. Most importantly, talk to Philip Patrick. We first started working with him, gold was 1100 bucks an ounce. The reason we came up with this concept, to teach people about capital markets, to teach people about fiat currency, to teach people why gold's been a hedge for 5,000 years is because I said at the time, dark clouds are coming and gold is going to be a hedge more than ever. But eventually it's going to become an asset class that central banks and money center banks are going to start buying instead of things like the euro. And guess what? Voila. We're here, baby. But you need to understand that. Don't take it from me. This show's not about me sitting here going, yelling and screaming at you and da da. It's to give you information. So go check it out today. You need to do this for your family, yourself, your financial stability your country to be able to think through these issues like these deficits we're running. If you got an issue with the irs, it ain't going to go away. IRS is going to look for every penny they got because we're running, I don't know, $1.8 to $2 trillion deficits a year. They're coming for everybody's money if they think you owe it. And I know you may have a difference opinion if you fail to file you late filing or you've got a discrepancy with them, you got a letter with them. Don't curl up in a, in a ball in the corner. Reach out to Tax Network usa. They solved a billion dollars worth of tax issues. Nothing you tell them is going to shock them. They've heard it all and they know the guys to work with. 800-958-1000 and tell them Steve Bannon sent you get a free consultation. Do that today. Dave Walsh One of these things is about energy and about the data centers and quite frankly these I thought things like Florida Power and Light, I thought they had citizens, I thought they were set up as public utilities so they could get feedback from these folks called ratepayers, our schmendricks out there called American citizens or this case Florida citizens. Why is that system not working? Why do they seem to be going down this decarbonization crazy green New Deal scam of these massive, massive capital investments from the president states against it and more importantly the folks in Florida against it. Sir.

[Dave Walsh]

According to the state Office of Public Counsel who I speak to periodically, a record number of interveners and complainers have stepped up about the presentation $10 billion rate case, an all time national record high rate case that FPNL have pushed forward for the next four years now reduced to 7 billion. So some progress is being made. But that's about building 130 more utility scale solar farms at a cost of about 7,7 billion at this point for the next four years, the next 10 years, the three regulated utilities, Duke FPL and Tecoh Tampa Electric have a plan to build $49 billion worth of solar farms and utility scale battery storage which if it were combined cycle would cost less than half of that to build natural gas fired power that runs all the time. But no, they're opting for the far more expensive capital cost, two and a half times more costly capital cost solar and battery storage to make more money. Through their rates they get a 10 and a half to 11% rate recovery on capital investments and the More they invest, of course, the more they make. And they're opting for, between the two choices, solar and gas. They're opting for solar, which is very part time here. Five hours. Five hours a day. And ruins reliability and also ruins the opportunity for data centers and service centers. Unless they deploy some of the very large number of gas turbines that they've ordered already from, from GE Vernova, which is adding to the shortage of those. The fact that Southeast utilities have bought a record number of gas turbines in the last 10 months from the major three OEMs. But they're not deploying them for ratepayers. They're waiting for AI and data center clients to come along and then go.

[Steve Bannon]

Ahead and use them. Wow.

[Dave Walsh]

Created by the utilities who have bought them up, waiting for AI to come.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay.

[Dave Walsh]

It's a huge problem.

[Steve Bannon (Speech Segment)]

We got.

[Dave Walsh]

We got.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm going to get you back. I'm going to get you back on here because we need to help the folks down in Florida get organized this because it's unacceptable. Here's the question I got. If people know I'm not a big. Ron Defense DeSantis fan on a national level is presidential timber. And we said this when he tried to challenge President Trump in that ridiculously failed effort to try to deny President Trump the nomination. But I think he's been a very good governor. Ron DeSantis is kind of a populist. Where's DeSantis in this? I can't believe with a governor like DeSantis we couldn't solve this thing in 10 minutes. Where's Ron DeSantis, the populist governor of Florida on this, sir?

[Dave Walsh]

Well, to hold him to account during his administration, the entire seven years of it, every single submittal before the Public Service Commission for new capacity power has been for utility scale solar. Every single one of them has been approved going away by the Public Service Commission appointed by him. So he's, he is certainly aware of this. If he's not, he's stupid. And he's not stupid. He's aware of it.

[Steve Bannon]

DeSantis is a very smart guy. You're telling me he's bought into this whole solar madness? You tell me he's bought into the solar madness. Or is this because this is where the power companies are going to make more money?

[Dave Walsh]

This is related to the donations to PACs from the power companies. They dominate politics in Florida. Duke Tico and FPL dominate the state House, the state senate and the governor through PAC donations. So they basically get their way on the capacity.

[Steve Bannon]

I'M going to have you back on real quickly. Social media. Where do people go?

[Dave Walsh]

Extra social. And get her at Dave Walsh Energy. I'll be at the right Republican Club in north South Florida in Collier county on Thursday evening at 5:30 on the same matter. And then next month in the heart of Florida, Republican women at DeLand up in late November. So we're continue to push this.

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We'll push, we'll push the Thursday one heart. Mike Lindell joins us by phone. Michael and Dell, give us a deal, brother.

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