THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON EPISODE #4857

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4857 | October 16, 2025

Main Theme & Overview

This episode centers on two dominant themes:

1. The breaking news of John Bolton’s federal indictment for alleged mishandling of classified information, marking a new high-profile twist in accountability for national security violations post-Trump administration.
2. Broad critique and analysis of globalist agendas — specifically, opposition to new United Nations (UN) and World Health Organization (WHO) initiatives perceived to undermine US sovereignty, economic stability, and national security.
   Guests, including Mike Davis, Norman Ladden, and Nathan Picarsik, join to provide insight and commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. John Bolton’s Indictment: The Latest Escalation

[03:01–13:47, 15:38–16:01]

• Breaking News Overview:
  • Multiple reports confirm that John Bolton, Trump’s former national security adviser, has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Maryland for illegal retention and transmission of classified information.
  • The indictment cites serious passages regarding Bolton’s use of personal AOL email for notes, including potentially top-secret materials from his time with Trump and prior.
  • Bannon frames Bolton not merely as a Trump antagonist but as "an enemy to the United States," referencing his hawkish foreign policy reputation and alleged arrogance as a Beltway figure.
• Double Standards in Media & Law:
  • Bannon highlights (with visible frustration) how media outlets, chiefly CNN, cover the Bolton case with more sympathy than similar cases involving Trump, calling out the "double standard" in press and political treatment.
  • Memorable Quote:

    “John Bolton isn’t just an enemy to Trump … he’s an enemy to the United States of America. … Last time I checked, mishandling classified documents is probably not respecting the transition of power.”
    — Stephen K. Bannon [05:55]

• Legal Analysis by Mike Davis:
  • Davis underscores the gravity of the indictment: 18 counts in total, including 8 for "transmitting national defense information" and 10 for "retaining national defense information."
  • He denies this is a political prosecution, noting several career DOJ prosecutors are attached:

    “You’re not gonna be able to say this is a political case here … very serious espionage charges.”
    — Mike Davis [12:11]

  • Davis predicts significant prison time for Bolton if convicted and details the precedent, contrasting it with prosecutors’ handling of figures like James Comey and Letitia James.
• Accountability vs. Retribution:
  • Bannon and Davis maintain that holding Bolton to account is about enforcing the rule of law, not political vengeance.
  • Bannon muses on the symbolic significance:

    “John Bolton is the epitome of managed decline…if people like him are allowed to continue to sell this country and our secrets down the river … nothing is going to happen.”
    — Stephen K. Bannon [10:32]

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2. The UN’s Global Carbon Tax & US Pushback

with Norman Ladden
[20:46–31:58]

• Context:
  • The UN’s International Maritime Organization (IMO) is voting on an unprecedented global carbon tax for ships, part of a new “Net Zero Framework” slated to direct revenues into a centralized UN-controlled fund.
• Stakeholder Breakdown:
  • The tax would involve 176 member states and nearly all international shipping, with additional “just transition initiatives” earmarked for developing states.
  • President Trump’s administration is resisting, pushing back strongly and threatening tariffs if the plan is adopted by IMO states.
• Economic Impact & Geopolitical Consequences:
  • Consumers are positioned as the ultimate bearers of this “hidden tax.”
  • Ladden notes major shipping interests surprisingly back the tax (knowing costs shift to consumers), and China stands to gain strategically—being the largest shipbuilder, the framework favors alternative-fuel ships over carbon-fueled vessels.
  • Memorable Quotes:

    “This is the first time in UN history where [a tax] would go directly into a fund which would be controlled by the UN … And who will be incurring this hidden tax? It is us, the consumers.”
    — Norman Ladden [22:20]
    “China stands to gain … for ships that are built on alternative fuels and China obviously is the main player when it comes to shipbuilding.”
    — Norman Ladden [27:15]

• UN’s Broader Agenda - “Managed Decline”:
  • Both Bannon and Ladden refer to the broader agenda of “Agenda 2030/2050” and criticize what they see as public-private partnerships and opaque, anti-democratic global governance.
  • Ladden directs listeners to official State Department statements and further reading for deeper detail.

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3. Globalism & Tech: China’s Expanding Influence

with Nathan Picarsik
[35:15–47:05, 52:15–58:33]

• Economic & Information Warfare:
  • Bannon paints China’s competition with the US across rare earths, technology, and supply chains as “unrestricted warfare.”
  • Nathan Picarsik details how China circumvents bans on Huawei/ZTE by embedding “hidden” Chinese components in US tech through third-party vendors and rebranding.
  • The Trump administration is credited with tightening FCC rules and expanding the entity list but is urged to go further.
  • Memorable Quote:

    “Hidden Huaweis are touching everything … The risks aren’t just about the label, it’s about where the components inside come from.”
    — Nathan Picarsik [44:00]

• Consumer Protection Recommendations:
  • Picarsik urges Americans to buy from vetted Western suppliers, follow FCC guidance, and watch for supply chain vulnerabilities.
  • Specific threats are identified (e.g., the “TP Link” router suit in Texas, and companies like Quectel and Fibocom flagged for security risks).
• China in Latin America: Infrastructure & Influence:
  • China’s mega-port project in Peru and a continent-spanning railway are explained as moves to circumvent the Panama Canal and funnel Brazilian agricultural exports to China, eroding US economic and strategic influence in the hemisphere.
  • Picarsik warns about Chinese subnational (mayoral) influence and expands on the need for a more proactive US “soft power” response.
  • Memorable Quote:

    “[China has] a bundled set of offerings … happy to lose money for long-term strategic positioning. The American brand and market is a compelling offer – if we prioritize it.”
    — Nathan Picarsik [56:46]

  • Bannon criticizes congressional China committees as inefficient talk shops:

    “They’re just weak...frankly, sanction them, pull them off the stock exchange, do something so tired of this passive voice.”
    — Stephen K. Bannon [59:00]

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4. The WHO’s Expanding Surveillance and Pandemic Treaty

[35:15–35:50]

• Pandemic & Surveillance Mechanisms:
  • The WHO is highlighted for quietly advancing negotiations on its pandemic treaty, especially digital pathogen databases and new AI-driven epidemic monitoring via social media surveillance.
  • Bannon alleges this is groundwork for global overreach and points to ongoing Trump administration pushback.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Stephen K. Bannon [05:55]:

  “John Bolton isn’t just an enemy to Trump … he’s an enemy to the United States of America.”

• Mike Davis [12:11]:

  “Eighteen different counts … very serious espionage charges … These are beyond top-secret documents.”

• Norman Ladden [22:20]:

  “This is the first time in UN history where it would go directly into a fund which would be controlled by the UN.”

• Norman Ladden [27:15]:

  “China stands to gain … alternative fuels … is the main player when it comes to shipbuilding.”

• Nathan Picarsik [44:00]:

  “Hidden Huaweis are touching everything … not just the label — it’s about the components inside the devices.”

• Nathan Picarsik [56:46]:

  “The American brand … is a compelling offer. We just need to prioritize it.”

• Stephen K. Bannon [59:00]:

  “They’re just weak…sanction them, pull them off the stock exchange, do something…tired of this passive voice.”

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Important Timestamps

• Breaking: Bolton indictment coverage — [03:01–16:01]
• Norman Ladden on the UN carbon tax & China’s shipbuilding advantage — [20:46–31:58]
• Nathan Picarsik on ‘hidden Huaweis’ and Chinese tech infiltration — [35:15–47:05]
• China’s infrastructure strategy in Latin America — [52:15–58:33]
• WHO treaty, global surveillance concerns — [35:15–35:50]
• Recurring theme: 'The Enemy Within' & US sovereignty — thread throughout

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Summary/Takeaway

This episode frames events through the lens of American sovereignty and opposition to globalist influence, offering detailed reporting on the indictment of John Bolton and sharply critical analysis of UN and WHO initiatives described as threats to US independence. The guest experts provide granular detail on legal, technological, and geopolitical fronts, underscored by a call for more aggressive policy responses both at home and abroad. Bannon’s tone — urgent, combative, and heavily skeptical of global institutions and mainstream media narratives — is matched by the guests’ deep dives into policy specifics and calls to action for listeners.

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Transcript

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[Dana]

Cnn the justice department will ask a federal grand jury today to indict president.

[Caitlin Polance]

Trump'S former national security adviser john bolton.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This would be the third indictment of.

[Dana]

The president's self described political enemies in.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Just three weeks i'm joined here at.

[Dana]

The table with a terrific group of reporters including kaitlyn pollance who is bringing us this reporting caitlin what do we.

[Caitlin Polance]

Know well dana we know now from various sources that the grand jury in maryland in federal court is expected to be hearing evidence about john bolton this afternoon the justice department is expected to go in there and ask for an indictment of the former national security adviser to donald trump and somebody who is not just well known from the trump era but a longtime government official this is a case where it's been in the works for years it's been worked on because bolton at one point was discovered having an aol email account according to the sources i've talked to where he was writing notes to himself about his time in the trump white house and that could include classified documents we also know from a recent search just two months ago that there were many documents including ones labeled as about weapons of mass destruction about allied strikes things that had markings on them that said classified secret there were phones computers drives all of that seized from his house his lawyer has said this could all be very old material from the george w bush administration and nothing inappropriate was being kept by bolton but there is still a important possibility here that this is a very serious national security case and that the justice department does continue with wanting to enforce cases like these it might not be all of a political decision.

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[Mike Davis]

Shot all these networks lying about the.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

People the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share the big lie mag media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here in the room it's thursday october sixteenth in the year of our lawyer twenty twenty five and i'm extremely pleased to be able to sit here and tell you specifically the wonderful cnn commentators that their projections have actually materialized and that john bolton just a few minutes before coming to air has indeed been indicted by a federal grand jury in maryland we're going to have mike davis on shortly to walk us through through the intricacies of this case certainly the opening salvo and it's going to be a long fight dare i say feeling a little retribution at the moment although as we've always said it's not retribution it's accountability and it's dis but i was reading the cnn textual article synopsis of the indictments against john bolton and described him woe is me poor john bolton apparently now they don't seem to care about people who allegedly maintain classified documents i think their coverage of the mar a la parade was a little bit different but they described him as quote the third high profile trump political enemy to face an indictment and what i would humbly posit as a correction to the editorial stance of cnn is that john bolton isn't just an enemy to trump that's secondary tertiary to all this but he's an enemy to the united states of america maybe that's a harsh charge although at the point in which you're getting indicted for mishandling classified documents i think that's probably a fair accusation but why do i say i think john bolton has always been that creepy mustache wearing token republican that has sort of floated around the mainstream media commentariat that is too busy lecturing this audience applauding steve bannon going to prison and saying we're the ones who are destroying see that we're the people who don't respect respect the norms of democratic transition well last time i checked mishandling classified documents is probably not respecting the transition of power john bolton but please keep lecturing us on how important the rule of law is and how terrible january sixth was right it's donald trump who's autocrat because he doesn't understand the value of democracy when you're busy who knows where you're passing off these documents to i mean obviously you've engaged in information warfare against the american people i just have to turn on cnn for a second to see that but you've also probably engaged honestly i would say sort second third level removed kinetic warfare with all the iran warmongering that you've been responsible.

[Leon Neyfak]

Multiple.

[Dana]

Sources are telling cnn the justice department will ask a federal grand jury today.

[Caitlin Polance]

To indict president trump's former national security.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Adviser john bolton this would be the.

[Dana]

Third indictment of the president's self described.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Described political enemies in just three weeks.

[Caitlin Polance]

I'M joined here at the table with.

[Dana]

A terrific group of reporters including caitlin poland who is bringing us this reporting.

[Caitlin Polance]

Caitlin what do we know well dana we know now from various sources that the grand jury in maryland in federal court is expected to be hearing evidence about john bolton this afternoon the justice department is expected to go in there and ask for an indictment of the former national security adviser to donald trump and somebody who is not just well known from the trump era but a longtime government official this is a case where it's been in the works for years it's been worked on because bolton at one point was discovered having an aol email account according to the sources i've talked to where he was writing notes to himself about his time in the trump white house and that could include classified documents we also know from a recent search just two months ago that there were many documents including ones labeled as about weapons of mass destruction about allied strikes things that had markings on them that said classified secret there were phones computers drives all of that ceased from his house his lawyer has said this could all be very.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Having some technical difficulties maybe you can blame it on john bolton but i am back i don't know what i was talking about maybe the third kinetic world war is too hot to touch for the global internet sensors not here on rav we love rav always an honor to but this is why i hate bolton because people like him he represents he is the tip of the information warfare sphere of people who think that they are better than you because they have access to classified information they think that they're better than you because they have stupid appointed fellowships and think tank positions at brookings and the atlantic council and all of these fake organizations that don't exist because of anything rooted in american identity or putting america first but exist solely because they take and they have absolutely no respect for the rule of law all they care about is getting rich selling this country down the river john bolton is the epitome of managed decline and it is quite not just symbolic but important that people like him are held to account and not made an example of out of political or politicized or legal lawfare reasons but for the sake of this country because if people like him are allowed to continue to sell this country and our secrets down the river while actively engaging and conspiring with foreign countries to drag us into more foreign entanglements if not not outright wars nothing is going to happen i don't care how many people you deport it's people like john bolton who are the enemy within and i'm glad you're getting a little taste of your own medicine and i really look forward to watching msnbc cnn take pick all of those shows tonight which had a very different tune when it came to president trump's mar a lago raid and the classified documents i'm going to be watching with a very close eye to see if there's any nice double standard double standards i'd argue probably triple standards there mike davis got it you've got a high bar to come in hotter than that but you probably dislike john bolton more than i do not for personal reasons but for the fact that he mishandled classified documents which last time i checked the left really hates they raided a freaking former president's home.

[Mike Davis]

Yes i'm reading through this i'm reading through this twenty page indictment natalie it's out of the district of maryland's the us attorney in the district of maryland is a career federal prosecutor they worked with the national security division and main justice there are several career attorneys names on this indictment so this is not a political indictment it's a very serious indictment you're looking at eighteen different counts against john bolton i think eight of them were for transmitting national defense information that means he was sending national defense information apparently through his aol accounts or his personal email accounts and then they got him for ten counts of retaining national defense information this is very these are very serious espionage charges and what's so damning for john bolton in this indictment is they go through in this indictment to show his knowledge and intent they go through and and quote john bolton in the past for when he's talked about how doing the very things he allegedly did here is a very serious national security crime espionage and they go through these documents and some of these documents are top secret with code names so these are beyond top secret documents for as far as i can tell from his time as the president's national security advisor so he he had access to some of the most he had access to the most classified information in all of our governments and he's sending it via personal email and he's retaining it so you're not gonna be able to say this is a political case here with the career prosecutors in the district of maryland the career prosecutors at main justice and the in the national security division and just the magnitude of the number of classified documents highly classified documents that he sent and that he retained he's in a very deep hole and it looks like john bolton if these allegations are true are going to go he's going to go to prison for a very long time.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Walk us through the timeline on this is there going to be a perp walk what does that look like that's a.

[Mike Davis]

Very good question that's going to be up to the to the prosecutors in the district of maryland i know lindsey halligan made the decision and i think the correct decision i didn't think it was correct at the time but i understood her rationale she made the correct decision not to perp walk james comey and tish james big tish for their charges in the eastern district of virginia for for you know lying to congress false statements to congress and obstruction of a congressional investigation for comey for mortgage fraud bank fraud and false statements to a financial institution for big tish james the new york attorney general because she didn't want to create sympathy for those defendants in the eastern district of virginia which is loaded up with government workers and other democrats you're going to have the same issue in maryland and so we may not see perp walks here because they want to just they may want to keep this low key on the other hand espionage is a very serious charge as john bolton has said repeatedly and as the prosecutors outlined in this indictment this was an indictment by democrats largely democrats in the suburbs of washington dc and maryland just like lindsey got with the suburbs of dc in the in alexandria in the eastern district of virginia it's this is i'm reading through again i'm just reading through this now it's twenty six pages but these are very serious charges.

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[Mike Davis]

It'S article three project dot org article number three project dot org you can follow us on social media donate but only what you can afford and take action the war room posse's superpower but i would encourage the war room posse to go read this twenty six page indictment of john bolton it's it's damning.

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Thank you sir for joining us we'll have you back on soon and more impossible while you're at it you should go and read the indictment of a former state department official who i think just got indicted for selling national secrets to china probably a democrat a message from our sponsors before we jump to break we love the guys over gold where you can buy gold and get free silver that's right for every five thousand dollars purchased from birch gold group this month in advance of veterans day they'll send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the gadsden and american flags look gold is up over forty percent since the beginning of this year and birch gold can help you own it by converting an existing ira or four hundred one k into a tax sheltered ira and physical gold plus they'll send you free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases and if you're current or former military thank you for your service birchgold has a special offer just for you they are waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount with an a plus rating with the better business bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers many of which are our listeners i encourage you to diversify your savings with gold text steve's name bannon to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight for a free info kit and to claim your eligibility for free silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month again text ban into nine eight nine eight nine eight do it today we've got a packed show we're going to be joined by norman lauden after the break to break down the new who global tax who exactly the taxation dollars are going to go to i don't know i don't even think the who knows but what we do know it doesn't look too good of course the trump admin already trying to block it we'll unpack it right after the short break.

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[Norman Ladden]

Here yes of course natalie great to be on with you and to discuss this topic because there's so much going on the news cycle is really crazy but this is actually very very important and i'll just set up a little bit of the context but basically obviously you have the un all of its daughter organizations this entire globalist superstructure and the agency the specialized un agency that we're going to talk about today is the international maritime organization imo and they are at the center of this war that is being waged right now between the trump administration fighting hard pushing back against this new global tax that they are pushing onto the world via its member states and so what essentially is happening is that you have this law so the imo is tasked basically with overseeing and regulating the seas the entire shipping industry and they've been added since nineteen forty eight since their inception there's one key instrument that they've set up which is the marpl the convention for the prevention of pollution from ships this dates back to the seventies and they are currently amending it to add in this annex which comprises a nzf obviously you know the nomenclature and the process and the procedure they always make it extremely complicated but an nzf essentially is a net zero framework and under this framework they essentially want to tax all ships for their emissions their carbon emissions their greenhouse gas emissions per tonnage so we're looking at essentially one hundred and seventy six member states that are signatory to marpol and all of the ships that fall within these one hundred seventy six jurisdictions would essentially have to pay this tax and it's the first time in un history where it would go directly into a fund which would be controlled by the un it's the international maritime organization net zero fund and they would control that and obviously who at the end of the day will be incurring this increase and this hidden tax it is us the consumers and president trump came really hard against this it's been going on for months this war has been going on since april when the imo convened and essentially adopted the draft for this amendment to the law and they're supposed to vote tomorrow on the formal adoption all member states are gathering in london right now this week where the imo is headquartered and the united states essentially has been very vocal issuing a statement secretary of state marco rubio secretary of energy chris wright and secretary of transportation sean duffy issued a statement last week a very strongly worded statement against this nzf this net zero framework and also threatened member states not to adopt this new law essentially or this new provision into the law threatening also with tariffs so this is really an integral part in terms of global economic warfare and every single citizen across the world across you know these one hundred seventy six member states stand to lose should this go forward.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And noor i think you you really hit the nail on the head it's also like what are these funds really going to be used for their sort of you know their typical hr globalist speak very euphemistic about it i want to read some of the quotes when they they do provide insight to create this net zero fund that would quote reward low emission ships and create quote just transition initiatives in developing countries and quote mitigate negative impacts of climate change on vulnerable states i think i just turned into like a liberal by reading that but what does that what does that even mean what does that mean well you.

[Norman Ladden]

Know the un is pushing agenda twenty thirty and agenda twenty fifty agenda twenty fifty being net zero complete phasing out of fossil fuels or carbon fuels and it's the it's it's been going on for decades right this transition by the united nations all of the globalist institutions the different players such as blackrock our central banks our own governments obviously against the interest of their own citizens and constituents and they have these different vehicles right now as i mentioned we're discussing the imo but this is very important because that would be a clear acceleration of that agenda in terms of the economics of it and we also have this very peculiar development which is quite representative of the public private partnership how would you say ethos but you have the shipping industry that is actually behind this and on october ninth you had a statement from different how would you say associations of shipping companies coming out in favor of this transition which is really odd because obviously they would be taxed but they know that the customer at the end of the day us citizens will be the people that will be incurring the costs and another important point which i think is really important is that china stands to gain from this because the idea is that they would be phasing out all of these ships that run on carbon fuels for ships that are built on alternative fuels and china obviously is the main player when it comes to shipbuilding i think china accounts for over sixty percent of the the new builds and obviously you have japan and also south korea there are main players but this would clearly lead to a increase of maritime influence by china should this move forward.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And nor just give us a minute or two on any other initiatives or rollouts like these that you think our audience needs to stay ahead of the curve on when it comes to what the un or their evil subsidiaries or little spinoffs like the who are doing.

[Norman Ladden]

You know the who is one of the main other key vehicles we've discussed it many times on the on the show and i'm still monitoring what's going on there they are still having the negotiations on their pandemic treaty they pretended that everything had been solidified and ratified back in may but they left out the meat of the agreement in this annex the pabs annex and this is still currently being negotiating negotiated so we will have to look to the annual assembly the world health assembly next may coming up in a few months from now you obviously have the world economic forum that is organizing regular meetups throughout the year currently also this week they were in dubai discussing all these developments in terms of technology and cybersecurity and ai and pushing that agenda in terms of making sure that they can control all of our platforms and future technologies and this is going to the lead up of davos obviously in january that's coming up the dates have already been set for the davos annual meeting of the in switzerland coming up in jan as i mentioned every year so we see clear pushbacks from the trump administration when it comes to key advancements of the globalist agenda and at the same time you see them still maneuvering still working behind the scenes to advance their own agenda and it is absolutely crucial that we remain informed especially when they try to obfuscate and to confuse the population you know i spend a lot of time to look at all of these documents and try to break them down but there is actually so much information and it's obviously done on purpose to keep us uninformed as much as possible while their agenda moves along but this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Is quite verbose to hide a quite evil agenda nor we've got we've got it we've got to hit a break but if people want i know they love reading all your stuff and you're always working on exciting projects if people want to follow you stay up to date on all of that where can.

[Norman Ladden]

They go best places normanladden dot substack dot com and i really encourage people to look at the statement and read the statement from the state department that came out last week ahead of this week's meeting in london of the international maritime organization you can find that on the state department's website and there's also a really good article by joshua arnold published on the washington stand on this very topic very comprehensive goes into the details of the carbon tax and how they're going to try and and implement.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This it's like a hydra when when you cut off the head metaphorically it just comes back rearing with like what eight more maybe in this case eighty but luckily we got president trump standing the breach warren posse we'll be right back after this short break we're gonna drill down on all things china chinese communist party we got it take a.

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You'Re back in the war room where we obviously stand very strong against global government because i don't know who exactly that global sovereign is going to be i guess maybe we can answer the question of who's going to benefit from the global carbon tax i don't i don't think they took no taxation without representation the right way when president trump pulled out of the who or frankly all things un that would be my my suggestion but in some you know capacity global government is already here i saw yet another illegal alien police officer try to make that make sense that's an oxymoron if i've ever seen it was arrested by ice today that's an interesting turn of events obviously jack smith from the hague over there with his un pals no conspiracies no coincidences refusing to cooperate and testify or at least hand over documents to jim jordan and of course everything we've been seeing which is a result of these globalized supply chains when it comes to china pulling the nuclear option on all things rare earth not just the actual procurement of these various metals take your pick which one but also the actual exporting of the tools used to refine them of which china retains upwards i believe of ninety percent of basically all refining capabilities if you want to talk about unrestricted warfare i think that's probably a prime example but also you know we've talked about the emp attacks here the sort of off switch for america but it's also wild and i think it gets back to what noor was talking about how in some cases it's these un entities that are being subverted by the chinese communist party but the ftc the trump administration as we've seen you can put that national interest piece up is really working hard to sort of create a new gps backup system they're like i said same with emp stuff there's sort of an off switch on all these things and a lot of the lobbying groups who are trying to counter these efforts all have ties to the chinese communist party there's a breitbart article highlighting that and in some cases obviously all chinese companies per article seven of china's national intelligence law can be essentially taken over by the prc turned into state owned enterprises to achieve any end any means of the state anything that they deem relevant to national security but even companies like zte which have actually been sanctioned by the first trump administration and of course retain robust ties to china's military to basically all the upper echelons of the chinese communist party are busy lobbying certain companies telecom providers et cetera to make sure that this does not happen this is unrestricted warfare this is the enemy within this is what we talk about people who i don't know maybe john bolton maybe that's a good example for today when people like that are mishandling classified documents while actively working with and conspiring foreign countries you certainly get an interesting interesting mix i also just want to give some other updates on what the who is doing before we go to our next guest i've been writing some stuff up on substack which you can read i think it's i don't even know it's natalie g winters or natalie grace winters dot substack dot com comma but i'm just going to give you a punch list of some of the clandestine things the who has been doing behind closed doors on the pandemic treaty front but on the sort of global convergence of you know emergency crisis response but what they don't tell you is that emergency means climate change or racial inequity take your pick of woke buzzword but they created the public health and social measures decision navigator the two point zero platform which will quote identify relevant content from websites social media and other public sources to identify important health events it's called the epidemic intelligence from open sources and essentially they launched a new ai pandemic tracker that's going to be monitoring and essentially patrolling social media to see what kind of misinformation they need to crack down on their fusing essentially new ai tools to be able to do this so they can process more sources get probably more of your social media posts more of the war room clips that you share they've also announced progress this is another story of mine on what they call the pathogen access and benefit sharing system they have a nice little acronym for it the pabs system where they this one's actually quite wild they're working on a pandemic causing pathogen database global sharing initiative yes you heard that right they didn't learn anything from COVID or i guess maybe they learned everything if what they cared to learn was how to cause a global pandemic they're pretty good at that but they are providing quotes catch this safe transparent and accountable access to pathogens with pandemic potential to all who member states not just china but every country they also want to guarantee quote equitable rapid and timely sharing of countermeasures buried lead there what they don't tell you they mean vaccines and they also want to quote strengthen global health preparedness by pooling resources across borders which as you and i both know that is just a dog whistle for suppressing not just nationalism but the idea of hyper national supply chains and not being reliant on what we saw was the completely defunct and completely inadequate globalized supply chains that failed that of course reliant on probably the un who's largest benefactor china but totally failed during COVID that's just some of the latest things that the who is working on it's absolutely wild and i think it goes back to sort of the key point that nora was making and even you see what the bolton's stuff right even when we come after these people and rightfully so they are not just sitting and cowering they are rebranding they are like a hydra they are coming back with even greater force because they know they are lashing out in their last few breaths again metaphorically but seeking because they understand right that this is a serious existential threat and before we get to our next guest last thing i wanted to mention another great hit piece on war room and yours truly from media matters just because we're talking about spiritual warfare we'll give media matters what they want apparently they really don't like it when we call our enemies demonic how about this media matters people who kill people that they disagree with because they can't beat them in debates and they don't like the impacts that they have on elections and they're what weird you know transgender furry whatever those people are demonic very demonic and it is a spiritual warfare and i frankly i would actually fact check your headline and say it's quite true i don't see the lie so thank you media matters as steve always says you're doing a great job running our press department so we'll take it nathan picarsik joins us now who has an absolutely wonderful piece in real clear defense always love when we can get anti ccp content in mainstream publications talking about hidden huawei's which i love that term not just because of the alliteration but the ideas that you're going through here and the sort of actionable roadmap of what the trump administration can do can do can you sort of walk us through your piece your suggestions and what exactly a hidden.

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Huawei is absolutely natalie and nest completely in the framing that you just offered that as we find the problem actors and we try to take our whack a mole approach to addressing them whether they're from the ccp or elsewhere they find a way to rebrand to burrow themselves into supply chains deeper and that's what we're trying to explain with the hidden huawei concept so we know that zte and huawei are threats they're threats that are unacceptable to us national security because they're touching critical infrastructure data and telecommunications networks and we've done work the first trump administration and the second administration have done a valiant effort to clear our networks from those actors they've been able to rebrand themselves and they've been able to bring supply chains that don't carry the same labels into the american marketplace into products that might otherwise look or be labeled as something that might be friendly or even american and this all works alongside china's broader economic warfare strategy which intends to penetrate our networks intends to penetrate our market and to get closer and closer with their access and their capacity to disrupt our operations so hidden huawei's are touching everything from the telecommunications networks and routers that huawei and zte presented threats in to the wi fi hotspots that you might be using your home and their analogs in industrial and enterprise fixed wireless access equipment and as you highlighted just in the preamble here trump's fcc has been taking new efforts to understand and to address these threats and we're looking to folks like chairman brendan carr to continue that campaign and to understand the broad swath of the supply chain that these hidden huawei's are attacking and to make sure that americans are protected in their homes with their wi fi hotspots and to make sure that the wireless networks that you might join when you're at the airport or in a shopping mall aren't going to expose your personal data and the operations that depend on those networks functioning to the threat that the chinese.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Communist party presents one especially we're at economic warfare with everything they're doing on the rare earths front i think there's probably no better time being a prime example of when we shouldn't have these companies embedded certainly in our technical infrastructure grid but i'm sure the audience's heads are blowing up they want to make sure that their homes their devices are not reliant on any of these companies these services can you maybe give us an example of either what the trump administration has done to combat this specifically what they need to do or what exactly some of these companies are yeah.

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Absolutely so i think part of the problem here is that some of these companies are creating the modules and chipsets that go inside of devices so they might not be obvious from the brand label or from the telecommunications carrier that you're working with that you have a piece of equipment that might be compromised so the first challenge is that the trump administration i think the fcc has already taken steps to be able to do this to expand their reach to make sure that they can account for component supply chain so not just finished equipment but also the insides of this equipment that really are where the threats may emerge and how they'll persist even if we do a valiant effort of combating the huawei's and ztes and smaller companies that are throughout the smaller component supply chains but beyond that i think we need to look to the fcc and to the corresponding national security enterprise to validate that these supply chains are at risk and to take actions to ban their capacity to sell into the us market either at the component level or at the original equipment manufacturer level and we just had a case with routers where the texas attorney general has brought a case against tp link i think is the company that that they singled out but i think it's a category that is rife with chinese backed chinese influence chinese dependent actors that pose a severe threat to our supply chain and to personal data.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Nathan if you can hang with us through the break i want to get into you have another great piece up at human events talking about what china's doing in and around latin america which goes back frankly to the rare earths that are the building block for so much of these these tech devices that you're talking about warren posse we got a quick message from our sponsors the lovely people over at birch gold where you can buy gold and get free silver that's right for every five thousand thousand dollars purchased from birch gold group this month in advance of veterans day they will send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the gadsden and american flags gold is up over forty percent since the beginning of this year and birch gold can help you own it by converting an existing ira or four hundred one k into a tax sheltered ira and physical gold they'll even send you free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases and if your current or former military birch gold has a special offer just for you they are waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount with an a rating with the better business bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers many of which are war room listeners i encourage you to diversify your savings into gold text ban into nine eight nine eight nine eight for a free info kit and to claim your eligibility for free silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month again text bannon to nine eight nine eight nine eight do it today we're gonna have nathan still joining us after the break but warren posse this china tech company this sort of weird sheltering of them pretending to be american entities i remember it was in the first trump administration they added about twenty or so chinese companies sanctioned them to the entity list because they were tied in with china's military the pla they are essentially part of that military civil fusion and i believe it was over a quarter of them actively had us based dc k street based washington lobbyists representing them helping them get not just you know meetings with your officials but get their devices into your houses so you want to talk about the enemy within maybe that's the theme of today's show i got a list for you president trump cash patel everyone said we'll be right back take a deep.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

You'Re back in the war room where we're obviously at the tip of the spear when it comes to china's economic warfare information warfare technological warfare media warfare take your pick a lot of modifiers you could put on that word warfare we are after all the war room but the sort of i think in some ways almost kinetic warfare they got going down in latin america at least on the rare earth front you know plowing just wild resources cash personnel buying off mayors it's truly insane and nathan you've also got a great piece up in human events denver we can flash it on screen if you if you want to sort of walk us through you have some really specific examples of the chinese capture going on down there but also what the pentagon can.

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Do about it absolutely so in peru we have a massive chinese mega port and that port set to supplant the panama canal and the trump administration has done a great job of recognizing the threat of chinese influence and control at the panama canal but china's already steps ahead and trying to have a plan to circumvent even if the trump administration wins out in the panama canal and the port of tranque in peru is a big piece of that chinese plan and that path is being paved by a mayor in lima who's set to try to run to be president of peru who is in china's pocket and that type of subnational influence is the exact playbook that we see them trying to cultivate their united front trying to get foreigners to carry their water and do their bidding whether that's in the united states and the k street lobbyists or whether that's in places like lima peru but the plan doesn't just stop there the progress that they've made has also been expanded into brazil and they have a bioceanic railway that's intended to connect to that port in north of lima and connect it to all the productive economic resources in peru in brazil to allow china brazilian trade to flourish and to supplant not only the trade that's moving through the panama canal but also to allow brazilian exports to china to supplant american exports and to take market share from american farmers so when we look at the dent in soybean exports and the dent in sorghum exports it's directly tied to these actions that china's taking in latin america they're also getting positioned with control over these key infrastructures to be better able to listen and disrupt through operations in our hemisphere and projecting power into the united states so it's hard to overstate the nature of this threat it's economic it is hard security and that's why it's encouraging that we hear and we sense that there's going to be a new national defense strategy that places some emphasis on hemispheric security and getting right our relations in latin america and coming to battle with china in their increasing presence it's not just about the panama canal and it's even not just about winning over subnational influence in lima it's the entire hemisphere and it's directly tied to the way that the chinese communist party is able to have unfettered access into the united states able to send in fentanyl imports into the united states and able to subvert our social and economic order.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Now i was told for what you know how many months by the media that by shutting down usaid we're destroying america's soft power meanwhile china's been running roughshod over virtually every country supplying them with meaningful infrastructure meaningful ports meaningful things that they of course then then sees as you sort of outlined is this a chance for the trump administration to sort of redefine what american soft power actually looks like in the context of combating malign prc influence absolutely and there's.

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This clear defensive measures that we need to be taking we should be neutering and neutralizing actors who are acting on behalf of china's interests at the same time we should be taking an offensive approach to our allies and partners in the region and the folks who want to work with us who want to expand their market share in the united states who want to collaborate with economic security actors and i think we have plenty of options in latin america but we have to be serious about it and we have to prioritize it the right way it can't just be an afterthought and you know we wake up one day and we have this massive threat that's building out in places like this port in peru we need to be actively working and we need to bring our private sector as well so china comes in and has a bundled set of offerings that they're very happy to lose money on to gain long term strategic positioning we may not be able to compete with the same dollar and sense of that package but the american brand american security and access to the american market is a very compelling offer and one that i think if prioritized the right way wins out against china.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And nathan just give us one more minute to sort of summarize everything you were talking about in the last block is there anything that people can do right now to make sure that the companies that they have in their homes that they're using that are they're not being back channeled or routed back.

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To china yeah absolutely i think you want to look to make sure that your devices are from western produced carriers that your telecommunications providers are complying with fcc certification requirements and you want to track closely where the fcc makes updates to their covered list so their national security authorities are able to identify and protect american consumers and businesses from clear and obvious threats from the likes of chinese router and fixed wireless access companies those that supply huawei zte and then also that enter the us market at the component level so looking for companies like quectel and fibocom which have been highlighted by the china house select committee as potential threats would be a good starting place so those types of module and component providers and then obviously the huawei ztes and others who may be attacked or attended to the fcc covered.

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Thank you sir for joining us thank.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

You mentioned the congressional committee on what is it the subcommittee on the chinese communist party i don't even care to really remember their name because i have a major bone to pick with them not just because one of the main republicans on there he himself is caught up in a bunch of chinese influence ops he protests participated in an event with the us heartland china association the foremost organization responsible for trying to get american lawmakers to allow china to buy farmland here in the united states so that's a non starter for me personally but they're just weak instead of investigating and putting out reports about these companies frickin sanction them pull them off the stock exchange do something so tired of this passive voice you know the tweets that we saw oh we wouldn't have known that the fbi was spying on us if it weren't for these brave whistle what do you mean do you live under a rock it's absolutely wild this china committee is a complete joke just do something about it for once instead of tweeting about it we already know we're the war room posse we're not like you know the msnbc crowd which is a little slow they operate on maybe half time speed we're on two times speed at least here in the war room until next time thank you guys for joining me take a deep dive into the stories.

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