THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON EPISODE #4860

Summary

Real America’s Voice: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4860 | October 17, 2025

Overview

This episode of The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon delivers an in-depth, unfiltered discussion on U.S. politics, national security, Texas state elections, and cultural challenges, all viewed through a populist, pro-America lens. Broadcast live from Texas, the episode features host Stephen K. Bannon with co-host Lee Wamsburg, and guests including Peter Navarro, Aaron Reitz, Amanda Head, and several legal analysts. Major topics include military aid to Ukraine, a federal indictment against John Bolton, the state of Texas politics and elections, economic nationalism, border security, and concerns around education, crime, and gender policies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S. Military Aid to Ukraine and Strategic Reserves

Donald Trump & Panel Discussion

• Concerns raised over sending Tomahawk missiles and other strategic munitions to Ukraine.
• Trump insists: “We don’t want to be giving away things that we need to protect our country. We have a very strong country right now. We have the greatest military in the world… I want to get this war over.” (01:21)
• The discussion touches on whether such aid weakens U.S. defensive capabilities.

2. Indictment and Security Breach—John Bolton Case

Legal Experts and Steve Bannon

• Detailed breakdown of the indictment against John Bolton for mishandling and sharing national security information via unsecured email.
• The investigation reportedly stemmed from a U.S. penetration of Iranian cyber systems, raising broader security and intelligence concerns.
• Panel notes the legal challenge of bringing such material to trial:
  “You cannot compel John Bolton to testify because he has a Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination…” (03:06, Legal Expert)
• Bolton is accused of using family members as “ghostwriters or editors,” exacerbating the breach. (Legal Commentator, 04:22)
• Steve Bannon affirms the indictment’s seriousness but expresses skepticism: “That’s not going to work.” (04:22)

3. Populism, Economic Nationalism, and the Council on Foreign Relations

Peter Navarro on Economic Policy and Trade

• Navarro recounts speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations, challenging globalist economic orthodoxies:
  “You can’t trade our economic security for national security. Economic security is national security. If you don’t have a manufacturing base, you can’t defend anybody, including yourself.” (08:38)
• Navarro credits Trump’s trade policies for successful global deals without triggering inflation or recession.
• Navarro and Bannon argue that the so-called elite holdouts are slowly accepting these populist economic strategies.
• Navarro’s confrontation at the CFR was met with “a surprisingly warm” reception, showing a possible shift in attitudes (11:14).

4. Texas State Senate Race: Grassroots vs. Establishment

Lee Wamsburg Interview

• Wamsburg describes the immense size and cost of Texas Senate races, emphasizing her grassroots campaigning against establishment, out-of-state-funded rivals.
• “The bottom line is if good people don’t get in the game, who’s running the show? Bad people.” (22:05)
• Highlights concern over big-money interests attempting to drown out grassroots voices (23:32):
  “...over 93% of all of his money has come from out of state—93%!” (24:09)
• Key voter issues: property taxes, security (border, crime, police), and maintaining Texas’s autonomy.
• She cites the positive impact of Trump’s border policies and stresses Texas must prepare for future periods “after President Trump,” to avoid being vulnerable based on changing federal administrations (25:20).

5. Texas Attorney General Race and the Ken Paxton Impeachment

Aaron Reitz Interview

• Reitz, former Deputy Attorney General, pitches himself as the MAGA candidate to succeed Ken Paxton. Mentions personal involvement in fighting Paxton's impeachment:
  “...all three of my opponents were behind the instigation and impeachment of Attorney General Ken Paxton.” (31:38)
• Vows to use the Texas AG’s office to support Trump administration policies, combat left-wing influence, and resist “squish RINO” Republicans as fiercely as Democrats:
  “We’re not just fighting the demonic left, but we’re fighting the squish rhino, lying, duplicitous, deceptive rhinos on the right as well…” (33:51)

6. Texas Policy Challenges: Security, Taxes, Guns, and Education

Lee Wamsburg & Panel

• Border Security: Strong praise for Trump’s actions, but urge for self-reliance:
  “We have to prepare now to make sure our border is never left wide open again.” (40:25)
• Law Enforcement: Full support for ICE and police; calls to crack down on attacks against federal officers.
• Election Security: Wamsburg laments legislative hurdles that impeded the AG’s power to prosecute voter fraud in blue-populated counties (42:34).
• Gun Rights: Texas is perceived as gun-friendly, but loopholes in civil liability after self-defense are a real issue.
  “If you can be sued and lose your livelihood, you do not have a Second Amendment.” (44:23)

7. Texas Budget, Spending, and Education Woes

• Massive $2.7T Texas GDP, but spending and property taxes are high; Wamsburg advocates cutting state spending and rooting out “waste, fraud, and abuse” in education and human services (46:15).
• Despite huge investments, Texas school districts are underperforming, with state takeovers looming for some districts (47:22).
• Points out incomplete bans on transgender participation and lingering gender policy loopholes in sports and public facilities (47:56), advocating for comprehensive Women’s Privacy Act reforms.

8. Audience Engagement and Community Focus

• Emphasis on grassroots engagement, with campaign rallies and live coverage of key events like the Marine Corps 250th celebration. Amanda Head provides a preview of the extensive military demonstration at Camp Pendleton:
  “We were just watching a demonstration and a rehearsal of the flyover. I mean, it is American might and patriotism on display.” (19:04, Amanda Head)
• Bannon and team encourage listeners to get information, volunteer, and join alternative social platforms like Getter.

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Memorable Quotes with Timestamps

• Donald Trump:
  “We don’t want to be giving away things that we need to protect our country. ...I want to get this war over.” (01:21)
• Peter Navarro:
  “You can’t trade our economic security for national security. Economic security is national security.” (08:38) “The Council on Foreign Relations is the last holdout, but we went to them today and they heard the message...” (11:14)
• Lee Wamsburg:
  “If good people don’t self-sacrifice and get involved, you have the other type of candidate who is in it for themselves. And that never works out well.” (22:05) “...over 93% of all of his money has come from out of state—93%! I’ve never seen that in the history...” (24:09) “...our constituents are absolutely, fully supporting law enforcement, fully supporting ICE, and we think it’s un-American [to attack ICE officers].” (41:20) “If you can be sued and lose your livelihood, you do not have a Second Amendment.” (44:23)
• Aaron Reitz:
  “We’re not just fighting the demonic left, but we’re fighting the squish RINO, lying, duplicitous, deceptive rhinos on the right as well…” (33:51)

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Tomahawks to Ukraine – Strategic Risks
  (01:13 – 02:09)
• Indictment Against John Bolton – National Security Discussion
  (02:09 – 04:25)
• Hollywood, Trade, and Economic Nationalism
  (06:11 – 13:42)
• Peter Navarro vs. Council on Foreign Relations
  (08:38 – 13:42)
• Texas Senate & Attorney General Races / MAGA vs. Establishment
  (22:04 – 38:04)
• Border Security and Local Law Enforcement Issues
  (25:20 – 41:20)
• Property Taxes, Budget, Education Failures in Texas
  (27:00 – 47:32)
• Transgender Policy and Women’s Privacy Act
  (47:56 – 49:20)
• Marine Corps 250th Preview at Camp Pendleton
  (17:44 – 20:13)

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Conclusion

This episode provides a sweeping overview of both national and local political battlegrounds, blending urgent security concerns, Texas electoral dynamics, and MAGA populist strategy. The conversation is infused with a combative spirit against globalist and establishment interests, emphasizing grassroots engagement, legislative reform in Texas, and the protection of conservative values. For listeners invested in political activism and current battles shaping America’s future, the episode is a rallying cry and roadmap for ongoing engagement.

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For more information or to support the candidates:

• Lee Wamsburg: Lee4Texas.com
• Aaron Reitz: AaronReitz.com
• Join the conversation: Download the Getter app and follow your favorite voices for updates.

Transcript

[Lee Wamsburg]

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[Aaron Reitz]

Tomahawks to Ukraine. What's going to happen if the United States is in a conflict and we need the Tomahawks?

[Donald Trump]

Well, that's, that's a problem. We need Tomahawks and we need a lot of other things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine. We've been, you know, we gave, we gave them a lot. Now we have a different situation. We send it to the European Union, they pay for it and all that. And they have plenty of money. Tomahawks. And we need a lot of other things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine. We've been, you know, we gave, we gave them a lot. Now we have a different situation. We send it to the European Union, they pay for it. One thing I have to say, we want Tomahawks also. We don't want to be giving away things that we need to protect our country. We have a very strong country right now. We have a strong military. We have the greatest military in the world. We have the greatest weapons in the world. I want to get this war over.

[Legal Analyst]

One of the issues that the indictment raises is that not only was this information exposed to his wife and daughter, it was exposed to the Iranians because one of his email accounts was hacked. And what I've learned is that that is one way that the United States discovered that there was this classified information on Bolton's AOL account is because they had a penetration. The US Intelligence community had a penetration of an Iranian system. And they came across these emails and that sort of fueled this investigation. And there was a debate in the Biden administration about whether they could even move forward with this case because it would require essentially disclosing to the Iranians that the US had that penetration. That's a big deal. That's not often done. But the Trump Justice Department decided that it was worth it to pursue this.

[Legal Commentator]

Case against John Bolton, likely knew that this information should not have been spread further, that there was sort of an attempt to say, don't share this. And then there was a sort of tongue in cheek that respond in the response, but explain to us why that could or could not factor in here.

[Legal Expert]

So the power of a document like that or evidence like that is really the government's ability to get it into evidence at trial. And that is, as we all know at this table, going to be a function of the witnesses that are able to authenticate that document in plain English. What it means is that if I'm having a conversation with another individual individual, and that conversation is private, either of us has to be able to take the stand to say, I had this conversation with this person or I received this communication from this person. You cannot compel John, John Bolton to testify because he has a Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination and with respect to his family. It's possible that they could be compelled to testify, but it's very unlikely. So the question becomes, with a communication like that, who is the witness that you're going to use to authenticate it? Certainly you could use the FBI perhaps to say that they got it through the investig. But if you're not hearing from either of the individuals who are participating in the conversation, it loses its emphasis and the jury has to sort of take it at the four corners of the document, which could be good or bad, depending on who you're talking about. But certainly what you will not have happen is John Bolton get on the stand, see this, and as Susan said, say, I only told them to shush because I didn't want it known. But at the same time I didn't know that these weren't things that they were supposed to talk about.

[Steve Bannon]

That's not going to work.

[Legal Expert]

That's absolutely not going to happen.

[Legal Commentator]

This indictment of Bolton accuses him of shushing, sharing emails with information, national defense information, with two family members. They don't say who the family members are, but they're presumed to be his wife and his daughter. How significant is it that a former national security adviser was sharing information with his family? I think on one hand, Ariel, it's very significant because John Bolton, like most people in that position, has shown us that he understands what the rules of the road are. In fact, the indictment, it's shows us that John Bolton fully understands that because he's done a series of interviews, both before his time as the national security adviser and after, where he criticizes other people for their handling and discussion information. On the other hand, almost everyone who serves in this kind of capacity writes a book at some point in time, right? Our bookshelves are legion upstairs in our headquarters with these kinds of books. And you have to ask yourself, how do people do that if they don't hold on to classified or national security information at some point in time, in some venue? I think what complicates this here is obviously Bolton was using an intermediary. He was using his wife and daughter basically as a transcription and secretarial service, as his ghostwriters or editors. It's not exactly clear what function they fulfilled, but he was handwriting notes along his journey as the nsa. Then he was converting them into a Word document and sending them to his wife and daughter either over an instant message platform that's nongovernmental or a commercial email application. And that's the complicating factor.

[Lee Wamsburg]

And if I could just throw in.

[Steve Bannon]

A quick one on 100% tariff on.

[Legal Commentator]

Things like the movies.

[Aaron Reitz]

Obviously our movie industry is already the.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Best in the world and I don't understand the competitive issue there. Thank you.

[Peter Navarro]

Well, let's say the movie thing first. If you know Hollywood and I used to live about 60 miles from there, it became almost impossible to produce a medium to low budget film in Hollywood. And so it was off to Czechoslovakia and Canada the industry went. And it was drawn by heavy government subsidies from countries around the world who wanted to cash in on the Hollywood cow. So yeah, it's a significant, that's a significant issue.

[Aaron Reitz]

It has been reported that Maduro offered everything in his country, all the natural resources.

[Steve Bannon]

He even recorded a message to you in English recently offering mediation.

[Aaron Reitz]

He has to stop that.

[Donald Trump]

He has offered everything. He's offered everything. You're right. You know why? Because he doesn't want to end with the United States. Thank you Everybody.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Friday the 17th of October, the year of our Lord 2025, joined by my co host this afternoon, Lee Wamsburg. Now you're running right now we know you as the Patriot Mobile political action person. You're actually running for the state Senate in the state of Texas.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Yes, I'm running for Senate District 9. And in the state of Texas, we have 31 senators. They're huge districts, larger than congressional districts.

[Steve Bannon]

There's only 31 senators in all of Texas.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Texas Senate, about a million. So it's a huge district. Our races are more expensive than congressional races.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow. Unbelievable. Hang around, Lee. We're going to. We got a lot to get to. Let's go to Peter Navarro on Pebble Beach. Zelinsky just left the White House a few minutes ago. The President left, no gag struggle, no discussion. Heading to Palm Beach. Peter, today your speech really touched the heart. We started the show down here in Texas with your speech. I gotta tell you, the audience reaction was amazing because you talked about populism and economic nationalism from the heart. And you really were. It almost felt like you were addressing the good folks in Texas, the farmers, the ranchers, the entrepreneurs, the people that really are the backbone of this country. Sir.

[Peter Navarro]

The Council on Foreign Relations is kind of the Davos of Washington, D.C. it's the center of gravity for all of the policy guys who are going to be in Democrat administrations. I went right at them today. I was happy to get the invite. But look, they're responsible for everything you and I have fought for what, the better part of three decades now, nafta. They were behind China's entry into the wto, the ill fated Trans Pacific Partnership, which President Trump skewered on his first day in office in the first term. And this drumbeat, Steve, of propaganda. Tariffs are bad. Tariffs are going to cause inflation. Tariffs are going to cause recession. Don't do tariffs. It'll upset our allies. They're always so quick. Steve, one of the themes of the speech was, you can't trade our economic security for national security. Economic security is national security. If you don't have a manufacturing base, you can't defend anybody, including yourself. So it was a very interesting day, and I hope the Council of Foreign Relations on Foreign Relations got a little religion today. Because I was preaching, brother. I was preaching the gospel of maga. And I was preaching it the way they didn't like because I gave them the data. The facts, sir. We brought the facts and it was fun.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, let me ask you. You went to kind of the high church and it's one of the most elite groups in the world. You got to be invited to be part of the Council on Foreign Relations. Really headquartered in New York, but with A massive, state of the art office in D.C. right near the White House. You also had Anna Swanson, and I would say Anna's probably one of the smartest people in the country about trade. She does a great job of the New York Times, although she's not a. She's not. She's a globalist, she's not a nationalist. But then you had to. You had a live audience invitation only, of the council, and then you had, I don't know, 5, 10,000 people just on their zoom, a zoom call, and we had, you know, hundreds of thousands watching live. You actually got up in their grill like I've never seen before. How did they respond to your kind of reading? Are they empathetic at all with what the populist nationalists and the good folks in Texas are trying to fight for? Or is it just this elitist globalist sneering?

[Peter Navarro]

Well, first of all, guest hosting on the War Room is good training to go get in the grill of the globalist. I thought that the reception in the room was surprisingly warm. I think they get it. You got the leadership. The problem is the leadership and the fellows who take the checks and write the articles and things like foreign policy. But, but these are smart people. They have eyes and ears, and they can see over time that Donald Trump's trade policies have certainly been very effective. They certainly see that it's Donald Trump creating peace, not war. But this is the kind of constructive dialogue we need. I mean, look, Steve, I think we've broken the back of the resistance on tariffs and trade as it is now, because Donald Trump has succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams in terms of getting deals with virtually the rest of the world that are very favorable to the United States, all without creating inflation or recession. And everybody's kind of grudgingly admitting, who hasn't yet, that, yeah, it's working pretty damn good. And, oh, by the way, as I said in the speech today, we're able to pay down our national debt in ways which could actually get us a balanced budget and keep our bond yields down and mortgage rates down and consumer credit down. So, look, Council on Foreign Relations is the last holdout, but we went to them today and they heard the message and hopefully they'll come home to us as well.

[Steve Bannon]

I know I don't want any obviously, classified information inside baseball, but today you have both. The kinetic part of the war President Trump is trying to solve with this slaughter in Ukraine. And President Trump comes on once again with the empathetic. There's just too many dead he's trying to work on, you know, Tomahawk's offensive, not with Putin. Marco's going over next week to start the negotiation with Lavrov. President Trump will follow to Budapest. You've also, you, Jamison, Ambassador Greer Scott Besson are dealing with the Chinese Communist Party and what looks like open warfare about rare earths, where just we overall directionally, where do we stand with this? Because I will tell you, not just markets, but as I'm down here in Texas, people are paying attention to this big time.

[Peter Navarro]

Well, as the boss says, let's see what happens. We'll know by November 1st after President Trump meets with President Xi Jinping. My favorite question of the day in, in the forum today was about kind of the rare earths and, and what's the weaponization of our China supply chains against us? You know, Steve, you and I know it's unrestricted warfare. And what I explained to the crowd there, that is simply that my, you know, my job at the White House, Steve, is not only to bring things home in the supply chain, but the ones where there's vulnerabilities. And all I can say is what China's doing is making my job a heck of a lot easier. I don't have to convince anybody anymore inside the White House that we need to do this and we need to do it in Trump time, which is to say as fast as possible. So let's see what happens. Is always good for the war room to be here. Thanks for carrying that today. Thanks to the Papa Sig, Rob Sig and Parker for getting it all done. And last thing I'll say, Steve got to be said, I'm so pissed off off that John Bolton as like comey got to self surrender. Chapter one of I went to prison so you won't have to. You can read about my leg irons arrest. You know, I don't want that to be done to them. But it does provide a stark contrast between how those bastards treated you and me and how we're treating them. 18 counts felony.

[Steve Bannon]

John Bolton walks in. Last thing. Anna Swanson, one of the senior people at the New York Times. Did you happen to mention we sold more books than number 10? We should be number eight in the new York Times bestseller list. And we're not. Did you mention it to Anna? We got about 30 seconds, brother.

[Peter Navarro]

I. Yeah, I communicated that through email to the publisher, Arthur Sulzberger, through Anna Swanson as well. She's well aware of the problem. Look, don't expect fairness from the New York Times. They're costing us, Steve. They're costing us thousands and thousands of books out there. And it's not about the money, it's about the message. And that's what they do. New York Times has canceled culture and skewed analysis, and we just got to keep fighting. The good news is there's the war room now and there's all sorts of alternative ways.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll talk to you on Monday, brother. Thank you.

[Legal Commentator]

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[Peter Navarro]

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[Lee Wamsburg]

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[Legal Commentator]

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[Amanda Head]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Peter Navarro]

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[Legal Expert]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Aaron Reitz]

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[Legal Commentator]

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[Steve Bannon]

Of the new thing. We're up on Getter right now. We'll be on Getter all weekend. So at Real America's Voice and where we are juggling, we're live in Texas right now. Lee's my co host. Tomorrow morning from 8am to noon, we're going to be live and we're going to juggle between Orlando and Moms for Liberty. And here in Texas, we got breaking news, personalities, politics, all of it. And we have a rally tomorrow afternoon.

[Lee Wamsburg]

We do. You can learn more about [e-mail] so.

[Steve Bannon]

I'll be there with Lee and we're gonna have a rally and get ready jacked up for this coming election. Simultaneously in the afternoon, we're going to do live coverage. Real America's voice going to do live coverage of Marine Corps 250, very much like the Navy 250 we did, I think a couple of Sundays ago. Our own Amanda Head is going to be there. She's at, she's at Camp Pendleton right now, Oceanside, California. Amanda Head, first off, Amanda, that's not normally a very safe place for a young woman to be. But you did go to Auburn, so I guess you're tough enough, right?

[Peter Navarro]

I did.

[Amanda Head]

And I actually have two Auburn camera guys. So we have banded together and we are good. And look, we're right next to the base. We're right outside of it. We actually just had two lovely Marines come out and make sure that we were not actually filming the gate because That's a security risk. But we are just focused here on the sign. But they were lovely and it does feel quite safe. And you know, Steve, you consider the demographics of Southern California and what's happening with deportations and there is maybe a touch less crime in these areas.

[Steve Bannon]

Amanda, walk us through tomorrow, your broadcast. You're going to anchor. Tell us about Pendleton. My understanding is we're going to see a full Marine amphibious assault and landing right there at Pendleton. Can you give us a heads up of what we can, what we can look forward to?

[Amanda Head]

I will give you the full breakdown. I had to write it down because there's so much you've got. It's going to start off with acv. So those are, those are amphibious combat vehicles. Those are going to be launching from naval vessels and then coming aboard land, you've got C130s, they're going to have parachute jumpers that are going to be jumping to Red beach, which is just a little bit north of Camp Pendleton. You've got Navy special warfare divers doing a demonstration f a 18s, f 35s, seas, those are fighter jets. They're going to be executing beach strides and that's going to be up until about 1pm and then we've got CH53. Those are heavy lift helicopters and MB22s. Those are a type of Osprey. Those are tilt rotor Ospreys. We've got Himars Marine artillery units conducting controlled live fire demonstrations. You're going to have a combined United States Marine Corps and United States Navy air power finale C130 flyover and then H1 helicopter flyover and flag presentation to close it all out. So this obviously is for the Marine Corps. November 10, 1775 is when they began. But obviously a strong unity between the United States Marines and the Navy. So the Navy is participating as well. It's going to be incredible. Steve, we were over at the site earlier today doing a preset for all of our equipment. And it is, it is a production on par with President Trump's biggest campaign rallies last year and obviously even more expansive considering all of the vehicles around that were already there. We were just watching a demonstration and a rehearsal of the flyover. I mean, it is American might and patriotism on display. Tomorrow is going to be absolutely spectacular.

[Steve Bannon]

Everything going on in Taiwan, it couldn't be a more timely effort with the Navy and of course, what Cleo Pascal calls the men's department of the Navy, the United States Marine Corps. Amanda, you start. We're at Moms for Liberty and Texas from 8 o'.

[Peter Navarro]

Clock.

[Steve Bannon]

Remember, war room coverage expands with Real America's voice. 8am tomorrow, 2 noon. Sorry, our normal 10 to noon show. But we're going to have two hours in the morning. Lee's going to be with me. Bryan Harrison is going to be with me. Many other people from Texas are going to be. We're going to cut back and forth between. Between this amazing conference of Moms for Liberty in Orlando. Then we're going to toss it to Amanda and the team out in California at Camp Pendleton. They're going to let it rip. Amanda, what's your social media? I'm sure people have tons of questions. All day, all night, where do they go.

[Amanda Head]

At Amanda Head? Everywhere.

[Steve Bannon]

Amanda Head. Thank you so much, ma'. Am. Good luck tomorrow. Bravo Zulu. Okay, Lee, here's what I don't get.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Okay.

[Steve Bannon]

We've known Patriot Mobile been a sponsor for years. I've known you in that. You got a great company, you got a great family. You're kind of revered down here with the grassroots. You're kind of legendary in the grassroots. And what you guys have done, Patriot Mobile has done as outreach on so many different things, right? The schools, the Bibles. The Bible for all of it. Just amazing. Why would somebody that's got a life like that want to get into cutthroat policies? Folks gotta understand, as we've covered on the trial of Ken Pax, all of it. The Texas senate only has 31 people. So each one of them is targeted particularly with the business interests, with the radical left, with everything. You get all these other issues that are coming forth. One of the reasons I came to Texas, I said, something's going on down in Texas. I started spending more time there. Why would you leave that nice life to go into the cockpit of what modern politics is, particularly in a state like Texas, which, as goes Texas, so goes the country, ma'.

[Peter Navarro]

Am.

[Lee Wamsburg]

The bottom line is if good people don't get in the game, who's running the show? Right? Bad people. I have no desire to be an elected official. I have no desire to have a title. This is a duty, right? I'm needed at this time. I'm not going to allow a Democrat to win the seat or a rhino to win the seat, because Texas matters. If Texas goes, so goes the country. And you're right, my life is really great. It's a lot better without this. But if good people don't self sacrifice and get involved, you have the other type of candidate who is in it for themselves. And that never works out well. For the people.

[Steve Bannon]

Your district is huge, includes, I think, part of one of the best cities in this country, Fort Worth, Texas. Just extraordinary. I spent so much time in Fort Worth over the last 30 years, and you've got the great part that's north of Fort Worth. The reason your case is pretty interesting is that when you announce and given how people know you from grassroots, you had a fairly big lead against the Democrat. And then all this, and then all of a sudden the establishment Republican business community drops in. A guy with, I don't know, $4 million or whatever he had and just starts carpet bombing. I mean, they're sending a signal. They don't want maga. They don't want a grassroots person. They want somebody that's very malleable to the business community. How do you handle that?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, to understand the dynamics of the. Of that statement that this is a special election and there is no primary, so there was already a Democrat in, and then I got in the election. So the next Republican that got in was willing to split the vote. The next Republican that got in didn't care at the possibility of splitting the vote and perhaps giving the seat to a Democrat. That alone should be enough to know who to vote for. But in addition to that, now that we know, since the finance reports have come out that over 93% of all of his money have come from. Has come from out of state, 93%.

[Steve Bannon]

Of that big amount of money was out of state.

[Lee Wamsburg]

I've never seen that in the history. You know, I've been in politics a long time. I've never seen that with another Texas candidate. It's really phenomenal. We are working really hard at the grassroots. We have a good campaign. It's. We're strong on our messaging. We know what the people want. You know, this district has over 20 cities. It has 13 school districts. So. And I've been in every one of them talking to the voters.

[Steve Bannon]

And this kind of an explosive growth area of Texas. Correct. It's one of the most explosive growth states in the union.

[Lee Wamsburg]

It is. And in our area is one of the most explosive growth Senate districts in the state of Texas. So we're out there working hard. We know what the people want. We have the grassroots machine volunteers, moms and dads who love this state and love this country and want to keep Senate District 9. Read.

[Steve Bannon]

You're doing the President Trump precinct strategy turning point. Charlie Kirk, you're knocking on doors and voter engagement. What is you. What are your team? And you hearing from the voters when you knock on the doors in their mind right now, nine months into President Trump's administration and with all the madness that just went through the redistricting fight in Texas, what are voters telling you is top of their mind?

[Lee Wamsburg]

So no matter where I go in all of these cities, there's two top issues, property tax and security and policing. So the. That includes your local police, that includes border security. And something that I have been really sort of screaming from the mountaintops is this is what President Trump has done to our southern border is amazing. Him. He's closing it, you know, before.

[Steve Bannon]

Does that show up now?

[Lee Wamsburg]

And it is showing up. I actually just talked to the sheriff earlier today, and he said we are seeing crime rates go down since President Trump lowered, I mean, lowered the amount of people coming over. You know, prior to this, you know, Tarrant county is the reddest county in the nation. Our sheriff testified in Washington D.C. that in this red county, he was doing a bust of a stash house and he found women in cages here in parent county. And that's cartel county. That's cartel. The drug lords and the drug traffickers. So that has truly helped that. However, Texas has to be prepared for a life after President Trump. We can never again be caught off guard depending upon who's in the White House. We are the eighth largest economy in the world. We have a $2.7 trillion GDP. There is no reason why we can't handle our southern border. And I know that's supposed to be the federal government's responsibility, but Texas is big enough. We need to watch our own border and always, always be prepared.

[Steve Bannon]

I can tell you from the last couple of days, one of the things that the nationwide audience is shocked about, I'm getting texts, they go, the property taxes can't be that high there. Talk to me about the. We got a minute. The property. I think people say, well, no, this is Texas. These are self reliance. This is the pioneer frontier spirit. Your property taxes are out of control.

[Lee Wamsburg]

So they're very, very high. Now, keep in mind, we don't have a state income tax. It so it offsets with property tax. But what happens is, is sometimes it does. It absolutely gets out of control. And you've got people being taxed out of their homes, especially senior citizens. We have some important tax amendments on this November 4th election as well, and they will increase our homestead exemption. So the homestead exemption hires heightens the amount to where you don't get taxed. So right now, the first hundred thousand dollars of all of our property is not taxed. But this raises it to 140.

[Steve Bannon]

The way real estate's down here, 100,000 nothing.

[Peter Navarro]

Right?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

Exploding. Okay, Lee, hang on for so, by the way, what's your campaign where if people want to know more about your campaign, where they go right now, Lee4Texas.com okay. And this is going to be a barn burner. This is going to go all the way. You're going to have to run through the tape. You know that it's going to be incredible. We're gonna take a short commercial break, take your phone out, text Bannon B A N N O N 989898 the ultimate guide which happens to be free for investing in gold and precious metals. And do not forget silver birchgold.com back in a moment.

[Peter Navarro]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Welcome back. You just got, as you walked in here on this Friday afternoon, a huge endorsement in this race who just endorsed you.

[Lee Wamsburg]

It's so exciting. I just got a call from the Fort Worth Firefighters Association. These are the men and women running in a burning building when we're running out of it. And they are really a powerful force in Senate District 9. And I am so blessed and honored to get that call. I'm really excited.

[Steve Bannon]

So why, given the choices out there, why did they select you?

[Lee Wamsburg]

You know, one of the things we talked about in our interview is when I was a news anchor and reporter, I was one of the first report to talk about the off gassing and plastics when they're burning and the carcinogens in those and how firefighters are affected by that. So I really relate to a lot of their issues. And I've always honored our police and fire my entire life. And they just recognize that. And I'm just really so they know.

[Steve Bannon]

You'Ve got their back. You're not just somebody blowing through town and want to want a endorsement. You've been you've had their back for.

[Lee Wamsburg]

A long time, for four decades.

[Steve Bannon]

Decades. Amazing. And it pays off in a huge people should know that's a huge endorsement here in this in Fort Worth, the Fort Worth area, Tarrant County. Aaron writes, you also, sir, had a great life. Why do you want to be attorney general of the great state of Texas? And why would you give up your life to get into this part of elective politics, which is just a cockpit? It's going to be this is going to be such a tough race. Why are you doing it?

[Aaron Reitz]

It's a great race. Look, and we're this is the great life running for office in this capacity. I love running for Texas ag. I love the fight that we're in. You know, I'm a former Marine and an earlier segment, you guys were Talking about the 250th birthday that's coming up. I love being in the fight, but the reason why I'm running specifically for Attorney General of Texas is because I have served at Attorney General Ken Paxton's right hand. I was his offensive coordinator during the Biden years, suing the Biden administration as an Attorney General candidate. I've been endorsed by Ken Paxton to succeed him. And I have seen from a front row seat how important it is to have a battle tested warrior in this position, to operate effectively in a lawfare environment in which we're in right now. My three opponents, they don't have the slightest clue what they're doing. They may be good legislators, but they are not as President Trump described me when he brought me to the Justice Department. True MAGA attorneys and warriors for the Constitution. That's what we need in the Texas AG's office. And I think that my background litigating, investigating, suing, defending and appealing on all the major issues that your national audience cares about, that's what makes me best suited for this job. We gotta get the warrior in the fight. And I think that that's me.

[Steve Bannon]

So, Aaron, here's what I stand. It was Glenn Story and Lee Wambsgand that kind of came to me and said, hey, I don't think you quite understand how big a deal this impeachment of Ken Paxton is and how it cuts to all the core issues between MAGA and the establishment, between the Trump faction and the Bush faction. And that's when we got engaged, man. We did stories every day, had people on, had, did Saturday specials. And we're kind of the platform that started turning things around in a system that would impeach a guy like Ken Paxton, who's kind of a legendary, you know, individual in, as being an Attorney General in the MAGA movement. Why would you want that job?

[Aaron Reitz]

Somebody's gotta do the fight. Somebody's gotta go to war and fight to advance our values through the justice system. I was with Attorney General Ken Paxton as his right hand man throughout that entire impeachment process, from the moment that those liars decided to accuse him of doing a bunch of wrongdoing, to drag him through politically, try to humiliate and destroy him all the way through the investigations and the impeachment. Which, by the way, I think it's important to note, Steve, for your audience, all three of my opponents were behind the instigation and impeachment of Attorney General Ken Paxton, a guy that you had on the show just the other day. Congressman Chip Roy was the first elected official in America to call for Attorney General Ken Paxton to be removed from office in October of 2020. Then all the way three years later, in September 2023, he was still lending his name, image, likeness, and updated quotes, and on speaking tours calling for him to be convicted by the state Senate. My two other opponents were involved in whipping support to impeach Ken Paxton. One of my opponents spent $500,000 of his own money bankrolling primary challengers and House members who were going against Ken Paxton. And so the choices are very clear in this race. If Texans and your national audience stand with Ken Paxton, there is only one person in this race who is suited to be his successor, not only in terms of the loyalty that I've shown, the devotion to our movement, but the fact that I was in the lion's den with Attorney General Paxton. He endorsed me to succeed him, and I am ready to go to war. And, Steve, I'll tell you this. I've seen how ugly this lawfare can get. I've seen how nasty it can get. We're not just fighting the demonic left left, but we're fighting the squish rhino, lying, duplicitous, deceptive rhinos on the right as well, both of whom came against Paxton and both of whom I've been fighting for my entire career. And it's that experience that makes me uniquely suited to serve as the next chief legal officer of the state of Texas.

[Steve Bannon]

Aaron, on the 20th of January of 2021, as President Trump's plane left the tarmac to the sound of Frank Sinatra's, you know, great song, My Way, we had Boris Epstein calling in. We teed up the five o' clock show, the afternoon show, and the first guest we had was Ken Paxton. And we said, ken, you know, the AG is going to be the front line here. Tell us what you're going to do. He says, hey, where the Biden administration was in the bounds of the Constitution, right? And this benefits the folks in Texas. We're going to support it and work with it where they're outside the bounds of the Constitution, and this is to the detriment of the citizens of Texas. I'm going to lead the fight. And of course, it's legendary what Ken Paxton did, leading virtually every fight, including for the election, all of it. Now, that's right. President Trump is in. What are you going to do? As Attorney General regarding the Trump administration?

[Aaron Reitz]

Totally. Well, I'll tell you, I remember January 20, 2021 vividly, because what we were doing that afternoon is we were preparing our very first lawsuit, which we dropped when I was Ken Paxton's deputy and his offensive coordinator. We dropped our first lawsuit against the Biden administration on January 21, 2021, on border security related matters, and we won that case. And since that time, I was responsible for coordinating and executing all of those Texas v. Biden lawsuits. During my tenure as Ken Paxton's deputy, I brought 46 lawsuits against the 46th president. And with Ken Paxton leading the charge, we won 85% of those cases. Now, it's a very different operating environment that we're in right now. We don't have an existential enemy in the White House. In fact, we have a very close ally in the White House. And so what I stand uniquely positioned to do as somebody who just came from the senior most ranks of the Justice Department in the presidentially appointed Senate Congress firm role as the head of the Office of Legal Policy, is that I am uniquely positioned to partner with the Trump administration to muster those resources, whether it's the White House staff, domestic policy, or DHS DOJ to bring those to bear. As somebody who's already been vetted by that team, somebody who's already a friend with all of those key players to coordinate our efforts to turn and train our guns on the enemy of liberty that have taken root here in Texas, whether they are the nonprofits the Soros funded, das, the Sharia law entities that are taking root here, the anti American college campuses that have flourished right here in Texas. So rather than turning our artillery against the feds, we can coordinate and cooperate with the Trump administration, with me as the Attorney General, a former senior Trump administration official, to really, really root out leftism, corruption, violence, fraud, waste, abuse right here at home, on our home soil in the Lone Star State. And that's what makes me uniquely effective as the national Attorney General.

[Steve Bannon]

Aaron Social media coordinates and where do people go find about you, more about you and your campaign?

[Aaron Reitz]

Well folks, you go to my [e-mail] Aaron R E I T Z.com and I post on all social media platforms. If you just search for my name or my X handle in particular. Aaronwrights Aaron Underscore R E I T Z vote for Trump's true MAGA attorney and warrior for the Constitution and the Ken Paxton endorsed successor as the next Attorney General of Texas.

[Steve Bannon]

Aaron, thank you so much for joining us on a Friday Appreciate you.

[Aaron Reitz]

Thanks, Steven. Thanks, Lee. Good luck. God bless you.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you for being in the Corps. And tomorrow, of course, Marine Corps 250 from Camp Pendleton. Amanda Head and the entire RAV team will be out there. How do you. I mean, we got up close and personal with the Texas Senate and I didn't know a whole lot about it beforehand, and I said, wow, when they went through the Kent Paxton trial and they were the jury and how close that whole thing was, how are you prepping yourself as you run and talk to your constituents to actually join that body, which I would respectfully submit is not entirely maga?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, yeah, it absolutely isn't. But the Senate is so much better than the House. Right. How do I prepare myself?

[Steve Bannon]

Why is it. But why is that in Texas? Texas. I said today, this, we had a conference meeting here. I said, this is the reddest mega state for people and for activists and for grassroots and the political apparatus. The reason Texas is purple is that you have a blue apparatus. But still most of them have Republican next to their name. How could that possibly be?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, it really comes down to leadership. The leadership in the Senate is significantly more conservative than the leadership in the House. And so we have an unusual thing. With only 31 senators, 20 of them are Republican, five of them, they're open seats coming up for election.

[Steve Bannon]

How can that be? Why would that many people want to leave at one time? So Republicans is 25% of the Republican.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Of the Republican Senate in the Senate.

[Steve Bannon]

As powerful as that is?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Yes. And so several things. One of them got a great job. The other one is running for another position. A couple of retired. So, you know, life happens. People retire. You know, we're not meant to stay in government forever. So think about our founding fathers. They risked everything to run. You talk about why would I do it? Because I have a great life. I don't want to do it. It's a duty to do it. And if more good people don't do it, our country is finished. We have to. We have to step up.

[Steve Bannon]

What's going to be the top of the agenda? You said your things are property taxes and security. And particularly you hinted at something quite important. There was a controversy that the board was involved in for years. The the d Texans of the Texas government to secure the border. You just can't wait for the federal government. This during Biden, it was a disaster. You had Project Lone Star, but we had Ben Burkwam, Bensman. Many people that are in the government today down there. Project Lone Star was a Licking of promise. I mean, they were coming through and it wasn't being done. Is that something you're going to push? Because you're going to say, hey, President Trump, as great as he is, and of course, I'm head of Trump 28. You're saying at some point in time that's going to come to a conclusion. Texas has to stand up and secure its own border. You're the eighth biggest economy in the world.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Right. It's the biggest responsibility of government is to protect our citizens.

[Steve Bannon]

And you think the state government, too, you think they're going to. They clearly don't want to do that. Right. Or they would have done it.

[Lee Wamsburg]

There's a lot of people that want to. And if we send reinforcements like Ali Wambs guns to Senate, we'll have more strength for that. You know, operation is that, is that.

[Steve Bannon]

Big, is the constituents. And you're talking to them. That's something they bring up.

[Lee Wamsburg]

It's very important.

[Legal Expert]

Important.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Very important. We've seen the decrease in crime, which is, you know, why I talked to the sheriff today and he said, yes, it's real. Yes, we're seeing it. Yes, it's tangible. But Republicans are really good when we win in elections to sit back on our couch and eat our bonbons. We have to prepare now to make sure our border is never left wide open again. 11 million immigrants who are illegal immigrants were taken off the streets. Enough fentanyl to kill every man, woman and child in America, Canada and Mexico was seized by law enforcement. We cannot be in that situation again.

[Steve Bannon]

You've had some antifa problems here with going after ICE officer. Two instances, I think, one up in North Texas and then that horrible shooting down here a couple weeks ago. What are your constituents, potential constituents, telling you about that, about the ICE officers and the mass deportations?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, our constituents are absolutely, fully supporting law enforcement, fully supporting ice, and we think it's un American. And if, if you're going to attack our ICE agents, you do not deserve to be in this country.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow. Lee, Hang around, folks. I talked to Navarro, you could tell, about his speech today at the Council on Foreign Relations. President Trump right now is weighing and measuring what to do on the request for Tomahawk missiles to go on offense in Ukraine. Remember the kinetic part of the third world war in Ukraine. 2.8 million. 3 million casualties already. Of course, we're now in an open economic war with the Chinese Communist Party. Birchgold.com promo code. War room, we called it four years ago. Gold was eleven hundred dollars an ounce. Today four, three hundred an ounce. Back in a moment.

[Peter Navarro]

Your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Obviously a big audience watching this. A lot of the MAGA folks, Melissa Katz and these fire breathing populist nationalist Trump followers, they want to, they're very focused, particularly in the Dallas area about security for elections. How big a priority is that for you?

[Lee Wamsburg]

It's a big priority and you know, we, we made some progress after the mess of the COVID election. However, that bill took authority away from the attorney general, put it all in the hands of the local district attorneys and those woke district attorneys that he.

[Steve Bannon]

Told me and Paxton told me that was a killer for him.

[Lee Wamsburg]

It was a killer. It was a killer. So I mean think about it. Where this stuff happens the most are in these blue counties and that's where we need to prosecute. And he wasn't allowed to go after them without it being referred to him from the district attorney and they weren't doing that. So we did fix a lot of that this session. But there's, there's a lot more to.

[Steve Bannon]

Go as people are kind of shocked about a lot of the regulations down here in Texas and how it's really the political class down here is blue. People also assume you're the most gun owner friendly state in the, in the union. I take it. That would not be correct as I followed you around for the last couple days.

[Lee Wamsburg]

That would not be correct. We made a lot of progress this.

[Steve Bannon]

How can that happen in Texas?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, I don't know. I don't know. I've not understood it because everyone I talk to is really on the same page with me with the second Amendment. I have fought to ban unconstitutional red flag laws that violate due process for decades. I'm the only candidate in this race that was down in Austin this session talking to members pushing to get this law passed, going, going door to door to door. We did get it passed. We finally banned red flag laws in Texas this session. But where we missed the mark is civil liability bills with the second Amendment. What a lot of people don't realize is you can use your stand your ground law, you can legally defend your family. Of course there'll be a court proceeding if you kill an intruder who's trying to harm you and then you walk out of court totally justified in using that force. But then the leftists across the country and definitely in Texas, they will fund lawsuits to civil.

[Steve Bannon]

They come in, they hit you after getting off on the criminal side, they come as responsive, they come in and hit you with a civil suit.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Yes, 20 states have made this illegal. Texas still has it and we missed the mark. And that's one of my second amendment priorities if I'm elected. Because if you can be sued and lose your livelihood, you do not have a second amendment.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian Harrison was telling me one of the things people are starting to focus on now is concern about the Texas budget, about deficits. You guys had a couple of surpluses, but it seems like it goes overnight. Nobody really knows where this money is being spent. There's all kind of off balance sheet pockets. The only responsibility of the Senate in the House, I believe is to pass a budget. Correct. What's the story on finances down here? Deficits and the direction of where things are going.

[Lee Wamsburg]

So again, our GDP is $2.7 trillion.

[Steve Bannon]

Our eighth biggest economy in the world.

[Lee Wamsburg]

It is, it is. It's huge. We're suit. We're soon by biennium we're going to be the seventh largest economy in the world. And and biennial budget is right just over 300.

[Steve Bannon]

Because you're biannual legislation every.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Only every two years.

[Steve Bannon]

But you have now special sessions all the time.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, we do. We only have a special session outside of the regular sessions in an emergency situation. These past special sessions are because it followed regular session.

[Amanda Head]

So.

[Lee Wamsburg]

So we are supposed to only meet every two years. But there was. Our budget increased dramatically while we gave some property tax relief. Some good things happen. We have to cut spending. The only way to really reduce the property tax burden. Step number one, I always. I'm a root cause person instead of just putting band aids on things. Step number one, we need to cut spending in the state of Texas and tighten the belt and get rid of what has.

[Steve Bannon]

Like I said, it's come to a shock to people about how progressive some of these things are. What's the problem with cutting spending? You would think with the common sense of the Texas frontier and still this entrepreneurial spirit when you come down. I mean people in Texas love this state so much. Where's the spending? Why are you having increases in spending and where is it?

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, our two biggest budget items in the state of Texas are education and health and human services. And there's a lot of waste, fraud and abuse in both of those categories. And I know the last session a Doge committee was implemented and we need to double and triple that. We need DOGE on steroids in the state of Texas. And that's going to be one of my goals.

[Steve Bannon]

Education. Brian Harrison has statistics of like only a quarter of what juniors in high school can read a proficiency or have math Proficient. That can't possibly be as much money as Texas puts into education. And quite frankly, how education is kind of revered here. Given the university system, given, you know, Baylor and all the private schools, tcu, smu, University of Texas, the public Texas A and M, Texas Tech. How can you have more money spent on education and. And failure to perform?

[Lee Wamsburg]

I'll tell you, it's heartbreaking. As a mom who, you know, raised two boys, they're in university now, it's really heartbreaking. The state of Texas currently is looking at five school districts. There's 13 in Senate District 9. Out of those five school districts statewide, two of those that are being looked at to being taken over for underperformance.

[Steve Bannon]

Taken over by the state.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Taking over by the state are in Senate District 9.

[Steve Bannon]

Impossible.

[Lee Wamsburg]

We have a.

[Steve Bannon]

With Fort Worth and all the explosive.

[Lee Wamsburg]

ISD is one of them. Lake Worth. ISD is the other one.

[Steve Bannon]

Lake Worth.

[Lee Wamsburg]

We have a lot of work to do. Those kids deserve better. They deserve good education. That affects everything. It affects our. Their lives. It affects our workforce. People are having a hard time finding good workers.

[Steve Bannon]

And you haven't gotten rid of DEI or you haven't gotten rid of this radical transgender ideology, including in Texas, the. The home of Friday Night Lights. We still have an issue of men in women's sports.

[Lee Wamsburg]

Well, we did, I'll tell you, three sessions ago. They. They passed a bill that stopped men in women's sports only K through 12, though. And so we're like, what? Because transgenders from their states can still come in and take those girls scholarships that they've worked for their entire scholastic career session before last, we got it bumped up to cover colleges as well. Everyone thought, great job done. Here's the problem. What was not outlawed?

[Steve Bannon]

There was a workaround.

[Lee Wamsburg]

There was a workaround. The workaround was men and boys were still allowed in private spaces, women's locker rooms and kids locker rooms, bathrooms. This session, again, I'm the only candidate in this race. I was in Austin testifying on behalf of the Women's Privacy Act. And that bill is really incredible because it covers the privacy of girls and women in all government buildings. So that covers schools K through 12, public universities. It also specifically covered all women's jails. I gave case study in my testimony about how heterosexual men were using the loopholes, they were predators, to break into women's jails and rape them. One of them in Rikers Prison, he was in jail for raping an infant to death. He put on a skirt, went to the women's jail, raped her was convicted for it. The third scenario is all women's domestic violence shelters. So we outlawed that in the state of Texas and protected women and girls because women and girls privacy, dignity and safety is worth the fight.

[Steve Bannon]

Amen. You're with us tomorrow morning. Tell us where, where's the, where do people go to find out where the rally is? Where they go to your website.

[Lee Wamsburg]

It's right on the front page of leefortexas.com you see it right there?

[Steve Bannon]

Okay. We're going to be back tomorrow and we're going to be bouncing across from the great state of Texas and what's going on here with conservatives and grassroots master maga and of course, the Moms for Liberty conference in Orlando, Florida. And we're going to be tossing it in the afternoon to Amanda Head in the Real America's Voice team for Marine Corps 250. So tomorrow, Saturday, it's here starting at 8:00am Eastern Daylight Time. Stick around. We got another hour of the War room on late on a Friday in October. Back in a moment.

[Lee Wamsburg]

This is an I Heart podcast.