Real America’s Voice: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon
Episode #4925 | November 13, 2025
Podcast Host: Stephen K. Bannon | Featuring: Natalie Winters, Mike Davis, Ben Berkwam, Katie, Jake, Lisa
Episode Overview
This War Room episode offers Bannon’s signature blend of combative political analysis, insider commentary, and a focus on alleged deep state influence. The discussion jumps between headline legal news (notably the Eric Swalwell mortgage fraud referral and the ongoing Comey case), accusations of lawfare by left-wing networks, immigration and ICE raids, the funding flows on the political left, the role of NGOs and USAID, the strategic conflict with China (rare earths, semiconductors), and the coming clash over artificial intelligence and genetic engineering.
Bannon and his co-hosts maintain a highly critical lens towards Democrats, left-leaning organizations, elements of the federal bureaucracy, and even some Republicans, repeatedly sounding alarms about coordination, “color revolution” tactics, and global threats to American sovereignty.
Key Topics & Discussion Highlights
1. Eric Swalwell Mortgage Fraud Investigation
[01:34–04:23]
- Katie and Jake open with breaking news: Rep. Eric Swalwell is reportedly under DOJ referral for possible mortgage fraud and tax issues related to his DC residence (per NBC News).
- The referral comes from Bill Pulte (Trump’s official) at the FHFA.
- Jake frames it as part of a pattern where “all people who are political adversaries of the president” are being targeted.
- Swalwell issues a statement likening his case to other perceived Trump ‘enemies’ (Comey, Bolton, Schiff, Letitia James), stating:
"I refuse to live in fear in what was once the freest country in the world... Mr. President, do better, be better." (Swalwell, [03:25])
- Discussion about complexities of Congressional living situations and the potential for targeting over technicalities.
Memorable Quote
“If you’re going to start poking around at the living situations of 535 members of Congress... It is complicated.” – Jake ([04:25])
2. Legitimacy of DOJ Appointments & The Comey Case
[05:15–07:17]
- Lisa reports on a court hearing questioning Lindsey Halligan’s appointment as special attorney in the Comey case, hinting at possible procedural irregularities.
- Judge Curry probes whether the defense has a key memo (declination memo) that could undercut the indictment.
- Lisa interprets the judge’s position as sensing something “very substantial” was amiss:
“I think what Judge Curry is driving at is, no, no, no. Something here was very substantial. Something here was gamed...” – Lisa ([06:30])
3. Bannon: “Primal Scream of a Dying Regime”
[07:17–08:22]
- Bannon opens with fiery rhetoric about the political stakes, framing the episode around resistance to “deep state”/leftist schemes.
- The “War Room” is described as packed for a two-hour assault on these fronts.
Memorable Quote
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime... Pray for our enemies, because we’re going medieval on these people.” – Stephen K. Bannon ([07:17])
4. Lawfare, Dark Money, and Anti-Trump Legal Tactics
[08:22–10:51]
- Natalie Winters and Bannon connect opposition legal efforts to Arabella Advisors’ dark money network and “Campaign for Accountability.”
- The left’s legal strategy is characterized as fundraising-driven and orchestrated, with continuous lawsuits used to stall, replace prosecutors, and fuel media narratives.
- Mike Davis (dubbed “The Viceroy”) joins to argue that legal attacks on Trump-aligned DOJ staff like Halligan are temporary setbacks.
Memorable Quotes
“All these lawsuits are basically cut from the same cloth in terms of the entities that they’re coming from.” – Natalie G. Winters ([09:04])
“Even if they have some Democrat-appointed judge temporarily get her off this case... it will get appealed up. Lindsey has shown the receipts and she’s doing it the appropriate way.” – Mike Davis ([09:20–11:16])
5. Perception of Judicial “Sabotage”
[13:10–14:43]
- Bannon and Davis sharply criticize “Democrat activist judges” for interfering with ICE and immigration enforcement, likening it to “judicial sabotage.”
- Emphasis that these court actions slow down Trump administration policy implementation—leaving dangerous criminals on the street as a result.
Memorable Quote
“It’s judicial sabotage and they know it.” – Mike Davis ([14:43])
6. Back to Swalwell: Motives & “Fang Fang”
[14:46–15:31]
- The panel jokes about the ongoing focus on Swalwell's ties with “Fang Fang” (former reported Chinese spy), noting this case is not about that—yet.
- Winters calls for a deeper investigation into how and why someone like Swalwell was allegedly targeted by Chinese intelligence.
Memorable Quote
“For treason, probably. It’s as commonplace as insider trading.” – Natalie G. Winters ([15:03])
7. Immigration, ICE, and Sanctuary City Clashes
[22:11–24:40]
- Ben Berkwam gives an on-the-ground view of ICE raids in Chicago. He laments judicial decisions letting “300 of these bad hombres” free and links activist groups to the hindrance of ICE’s work.
- Berkwam describes morale inside ICE as very pro-Trump and anti-judiciary:
“They love this administration and they hate these judges. That’s the bottom line.” – Ben Berkwam ([24:40])
- ICE recruitment and morale is said to be at an all-time high.
8. Lawfare Networks & Funding – Arabella, Act Blue, “No Kings,” Indivisible
[25:50–29:41]
- Bannon and Winters discuss leftist networks: Arabella Advisors, Mark Elias, Norm Eisen—described as a “money machine” fuelling the progressive agenda with lawsuits and activism.
- Discussion about Antifa being designated a foreign terrorist organization for greater prosecution and financial tracking.
- Winters calls for investigations into protest funding, exposing reimbursement schemes, and pinning blame on a dense web of interconnected leftist NGOs.
Memorable Quotes
“I would love to find one actually organically grassroots-funded left wing group. I’ve yet to do so.” – Natalie G. Winters ([15:25])
“Stop saying you’re going to—yes, do it! No more strongly worded letters.” – Stephen K. Bannon ([29:41])
9. USAID, Bureaucratic Resistance, and “Color Revolution” Tactics
[31:05–38:41]
- The hosts play a clip of USAID insiders discussing preparing for a Trump re-election, forming encrypted chats, organizing against “authoritarianism,” and plotting “sabotage” from within.
- Bannon and Winters highlight and mock what they see as “soft power” foreign aid being subverted to leftist ends.
- USAID’s “cultural programming” is contrasted negatively with the Chinese Communist Party’s infrastructural investments.
Memorable Quotes
“The foment of the current constitutional crisis is our opportunity to catalyze... new thriving together based sociopolitical economic governance systems.” – USAID Official (satirically highlighted, [34:33])
“These are people who your tax dollars used to pay the salaries of—openly admitting to using that time to sabotage.” – Natalie G. Winters ([36:02])
10. US Funding Chinese Tech: Rare Earths, Semiconductors, and Strategic Weakness
[39:15–44:53]
- Winters details (building on her reporting) how US taxpayer funds and military grants are flowing to Chinese rare earth research and the “state key laboratory for semiconductors,” despite recognizing the tech war and vulnerabilities.
- Bannon expresses outrage:
“They’re using the rare earths against us and we’re actually funding the Rare Earth Institute!” – Stephen K. Bannon ([39:28])
- The discussion turns to the CCP's approach to “unrestricted warfare” and US elites’ “managed decline.”
11. Coming AI & Genetically Engineered Humans: The Populist-Establishment Divide
[45:34–54:02]
- Bannon raises the coming political-economic fight over AI infrastructure billing: $5 trillion needed for new data centers, with $1 trillion expected from US taxpayers.
- Winters suspects MAGA co-optation by tech insiders seeking subsidies and protection.
“This is really the real reason so many of these people have pretended to be MAGA. Right? They want us to continue to underwrite.” – Natalie G. Winters ([50:13])
- They discuss a Wall Street Journal story on OpenAI/tech leaders funding research to create a genetically engineered baby—raising alarm bells for the need for regulation.
“This is offensive. I mean... In secret, a genetically engineered... a complete baby, be a human being and just drop it on the world, to shock the world into acceptance. This is how these guys think. This is why they’re dangerous.” – Stephen K. Bannon ([52:56])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “This is the primal scream of a dying regime... Pray for our enemies, because we’re going medieval on these people.” — Stephen K. Bannon ([07:17])
- “All these lawsuits are basically cut from the same cloth in terms of the entities that they’re coming from.” — Natalie G. Winters ([09:04])
- “It’s judicial sabotage and they know it.” — Mike Davis ([14:43])
- “I would love to find one actually organically grassroots-funded left wing group. I’ve yet to do so.” — Natalie G. Winters ([15:25])
- “They love this administration and they hate these judges. That’s the bottom line.” — Ben Berkwam ([24:40])
- “They’re using the rare earths against us and we’re actually funding the Rare Earth Institute!” — Stephen K. Bannon ([39:28])
- “This is offensive... to shock the world into acceptance. This is how these guys think.” — Stephen K. Bannon ([52:56])
Important Timestamps (MM:SS)
- 01:34 – Swalwell mortgage fraud investigation reported
- 03:25 – Swalwell’s public statement
- 05:28–07:17 – Lisa details Judge Curry’s skepticism in Halligan/Comey case
- 07:17 – Bannon’s “primal scream” monologue
- 09:20–11:16 – Mike Davis on lawfare and the case against Comey
- 13:10–14:43 – Judicial sabotage of ICE highlighted
- 22:11–24:40 – Berkwam describes ICE morale and street-level experience
- 34:33–36:02 – USAID organizing against Trump, discussed and critiqued
- 39:15–44:53 – US government funding Chinese rare earth/semiconductors examined
- 45:34–54:02 – Debate on AI, genetic engineering, and policy capture by tech elites
Summary Flow and Tone
The episode is combative, conspiratorial, and heavily critical of both Democrats and establishment Republican figures. There is consistent emphasis on existential threats—whether posed by left/socialist “lawfare,” bureaucratic sabotage, globalist funding, or China’s economic and technological maneuvering. The tone is often sarcastic, urgent, and anti-institutional, laced with encouragement to "take action" and suspicion of virtually all official narratives outside the War Room’s orbit.
The War Room continues to position itself as the vanguard against what Bannon et al. see as the combined forces of lawfare, deep state sabotage, foreign threats, and corporate overreach, seeking to galvanize and inform their audience with a mixture of hot-button stories and ongoing investigations.
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