THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON EPISODE #4928

Summary

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Real America’s Voice – The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4928 – November 14, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests/Co-hosts: Christina Bobb, Alex Bruesewitz, Jack Posobiec

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Episode Overview

This episode of The War Room focuses on several interconnected fronts in the ongoing American political battles: updates on the Trump legal cases (with a focus on election interference cases in Georgia and elsewhere), Republican struggles with redistricting, tensions between the MAGA movement and GOP leadership, and insights into ongoing conservative activism. There is also discussion around Christina Bobb’s legal work and her new book, as well as short appearances and updates from other MAGA movement leaders like Alex Bruesewitz and Jack Posobiec.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Georgia Election Interference Case Update

(Segment: 01:34 – 08:35)

• Change in Prosecutor and Status:

  • Fulton County DA Fani Willis has been removed for “appearance of impropriety,” and Peter Skandakoulos is now overseeing the Trump 2020 election interference case in Georgia.
  • The case was “reasonably far along,” with discovery complete and many pretrial motions (some charges around the RICO statute dismissed for certain defendants).
  • Trump recently pardoned figures involved in the “fake elector scheme”; legal experts question if these pardons have any bearing, given these are state—not federal—prosecutions.

• Federal vs. State Jurisdiction Tension:

  • Debate over whether the alleged offenses are state or federal matters, and thus whether presidential pardons apply.
  • Lisa Rubin sums it up:

    “Constitutionally, the president has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime. But... these aren’t, in fact, state crimes. They are federal crimes for which these folks were never charged and the state had no right to bring them.” (07:00)

  • Ongoing motions may try to shift the legal framing to federal jurisdiction to nullify state prosecution.

• Political Context:

  • Trump and his team remain listed as defendants; it’s unclear if the case will proceed or be dismissed.
  • Christina Bobb:

    “It’s so kind of mind boggling—Donald Trump is still listed as a defendant. They're still indicating that they're proceeding forward. It's unclear… if they actually plan on prosecuting this case.” (06:41)

2. Republican Redistricting Struggles in Indiana

(Segment: 18:36 – 28:36)

• GOP Weakness in Indiana Legislature:

  • Alex Bruesewitz laments that, while Democrats like Gavin Newsom “steal five congressional seats in California,” Republicans in Indiana are failing to strengthen their own position through redistricting.
  • Blames Republican leadership—specifically Senate President Roderick Bray—for being “weak” and refusing to call the necessary vote.
  • Quote from Bruesewitz:

    “We still have a really huge rhino problem… The MAGA movement doesn’t owe the Republicans in office anything, to be honest. And so when the Republicans in office don’t fight for the MAGA voters… there’s going to be a turnout problem.” (23:14)

• Calls to Action for the MAGA Base:

  • Bannon and Bruesewitz urge listeners to pressure Indiana legislators and to threaten primary challenges against obstructive Republicans.

• Broader GOP Critique:

  • Christina Bobb points to an “arrogance” among Republicans who believe their positions are safe even as they underperform electorally, adding:

    “They don’t realize that they’re standing in the bullseye of a target and they’re about to arm their opponent.” (22:08)

3. MAGAvs. Establishment GOP – Mandate and Execution

(Throughout – Key at 24:22, 25:17, 26:34)

• The Disconnect:

  • The hosts insist that Trump’s success in both winning offices and driving turnout is not universally appreciated or leveraged by GOP elites.
  • Bannon:

    “We have a mandate… We are never going to have this moment in time again.” (24:53)

  • Discussion highlights the need for GOP to “execute on the mandate” or risk squandering the current majorities in 2026 and beyond.

• Warning of Political Complacency:

  • Bobb voices a concern (echoed by Bannon) that some within the Republican party would be content (or even pleased) to see MAGA leaders sidelined or targeted legally.
  • Bannon:

    “They would be happy if a couple of the hardest core MAGA leaders… went to prison.” (29:17)

4. Tina Peters Case & Alleged Political Persecution

(13:29 – 15:20)

• Tina Peters Imprisonment:

  • Colorado elections official and “gold star mom,” Tina Peters, is depicted as a “political prisoner” by Bobb and Bannon. They argue her concerns about voting machines have since been partially validated—even by Democratic officials.
  • Christina Bobb:

    “They’re holding her hostage… This was an absolute sham trial. They manufactured these convictions in order to score political points…” (13:29)

  • The hosts call for federal intervention and political pressure on Colorado.

• Broader Pattern Alleged:

  • Bannon connects this to wider claims of “lawfare” against MAGA and Trump allies, framing it as systematic political targeting.

5. Christina Bobb’s Legal Work & Book Release

(31:40 – 38:39)

• Judicial Watch & Whistleblower Complaints:

  • Bobb details her filings with the DOJ, alleging serious conflicts of interest and ethical lapses in the prosecution of “alternate electors,” especially in Arizona.
  • She traces large contributions from the Democratic Attorney General's Association to AGs who were investigating her, implying coordinated partisan targeting.

• Book: “Defiant – Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Left’s Ongoing Lawfare”

  • Bobb describes her role as Trump’s custodian of records during the Mar-a-Lago raid and shares her perspective on DOJ and FBI actions.
  • Key Takeaway:

    “You will be floored at how much [the media is] lying. It’s not like a 90%, 10% truth. It’s 180 degrees from the truth…” (37:03)

6. Upcoming Activism and Conservative Events

(34:06 – 36:18)

• Jack Posobiec at UFC:
  • Planning to distribute 3,000 “Charlie Kirk Freedom” T-shirts at Madison Square Garden with prominent right-wing personalities.
  • Will appear as a guest on the Megyn Kelly tour next week in Bakersfield, California.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Steve Bannon:

  • “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemy, because we're going medieval on these people…” (04:57)
  • “We have a mandate… We are never going to have this moment in time again.” (24:53)

• Alex Bruesewitz:

  • "The only reason Republicans are in [office]… is because of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. The MAGA movement doesn’t owe the Republicans in office anything, to be honest." (23:14)

• Christina Bobb:

  • “Donald Trump is still listed as a defendant. They're still indicating that they're proceeding forward. It's unclear… if they actually plan on prosecuting this case.” (06:41)
  • “They're holding [Tina Peters] hostage… This was an absolute sham trial. They manufactured these convictions in order to score political points…” (13:29)
  • “You will be floored at how much [the media is] lying. It’s not like a 90%, 10% truth. It’s 180 degrees from the truth…” (37:03)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Georgia Update / Legal Analysis: 01:34 – 08:35
• Tina Peters & Political Prosecution: 13:29 – 15:20
• Redistricting & Indiana GOP Weakness: 18:36 – 28:36
• MAGA vs. GOP Mandate Discussion: 24:22 – 26:34
• Christina Bobb Judicial Watch / Book: 31:40 – 38:39
• Jack Posobiec Updates / Event Plug: 34:06 – 36:18

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Tone and Overall Narrative

The episode retains the signature high-energy, combative, and populist tone central to Bannon’s War Room. The contributors emphasize urgency, frustration with perceived GOP establishment complacency or weakness, and the need for grassroots activism. They frame current legal and political battles as existential—both for Trump and the MAGA movement at large.

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Summary

Listeners are left with clear marching orders: pressure GOP officeholders to act on redistricting, support MAGA-aligned activists and candidates, and remain vigilant (and skeptical) about both media narratives and legal proceedings against movement figures. The episode combines legal updates, political organizing, and promotional segments for activism and related conservative media/merchandise—always in the service of the broader MAGA movement’s goals.

For more details, listeners are directed to websites like Judicial Watch and social channels of Steve Bannon, Christina Bobb, and Alex Bruesewitz.

Transcript

[Christina Bobb]

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[Lisa Rubin]

Back with this breaking news. President Trump's 2020 election interference case in Georgia is now in the hands of a new prosecutor after Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis was disqualified in the case. Let's get more from our senior legal reporter, Lisa Rubin. Lisa, how significant is this? Well, today was the deadline for Peter Skandakoulos, who is the chair of this prosecuting council in Georgia, to find someone who to potentially replace Fani Willis after the Supreme Court of Georgia decided she needed to be removed from the case because of the appearance of impropriety. And you see, as per our reporting this morning, that Peter Scandaklis appointed Peter Skandakoulos. I think it's significant in the sense that there is or could be some forward motion, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be. Among the options for Peter Scandaklis, of course, is not only reviving the case, but choosing not to revive the case. And as you and I both know, earlier this week President Trump pardoned dozens of people who were allegedly involved in the fake elector scheme, many of them defendants and ongoing defendants in this Georgia case if it were to be revived. So look to see what he's going to do in the next couple of weeks. If he does want to prosecute the case, then I think that he will notify Judge Scott McAfee. I'd like to have a conference. Let's get this train moving again. But if he doesn't, he may also make some sort of official announcement as to why he is wrapping the case up. Either way, I expect in the next several weeks, we'll hear from Mr. Skandakoulos about what his plans are on it. How far along was the case? The case was reasonably far along. Discovery had concluded. There were many pretrial motions that were decided. In fact, one of those pretrial motions dealt with some of the charges around the RICO charge. The main charge here was a state racketeering conspiracy. But there were other charges that had to do with Georgia election law and sort of more straightforward, interfering with the process of certifying electors, for example. Two defendants in particular got some of those charges dismissed. John Eastman, the Trump attorney, and Sean, Still, a Georgian. They succeeded in getting those dismissed, saying, this is an inherently federal proceeding. The state of Georgia had no business bringing state election charges against us for the process of certifying electors. Perhaps we could see that argument sort of being revivified if Mr. Skandakoulos goes forward, because that is the basis on which the administration has justified its pardons of folks all across these victor elector schemes from Georgia to Michigan to Wisconsin to Nevada. But let's say it stays a state. State case. The president couldn't do anything about it, could he? If it stays a state case, the president cannot do anything about it other than to advance the arguments that he has on the basis for which he made these pardons. You and I both know that constitutionally, the president has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime. But again, his position is that these pardons are justifiable because these aren't, in fact, state crimes. They are federal crimes for which these folks were never charged and the state had no right to bring them. So look to see whether or not any of these folks in the Georgia case or in any of the other cases, as they move forward, feel like they need to go back to that and say, hey, wait a second, I have a new argument that I need to make that pertains to my defense.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemy, because we're going medieval on these people reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Friday 14th November Year of Lord 2025 okay, I've got Jack Posobic, I have Matt Gates, I got Alex Brucewicz, since all those are a little bit, are a little bit on the wimpy side. Just kidding. I got the hammer here. Christina. Bob to start off. So we got a packed show today. You're going to be my wingman, but I've got you in here for a special reason. This first guy MAGA. I mean, we're trying to get H1BS and President Trump's focus on the economy again, but I think people are kind of missing the Democratic plot here. Helmut this happened during our morning show on msnbc Is the. And tell me what's going on in Georgia because I guess you got a pardon in Arizona, but it's not really a pardon. I want people to understand that. But. And maybe we replay this. They are talking about prosecuting the President of the United States on what they think is a live state charge by Fannie Wilson people, correct?

[Christina Bobb]

Yes. And that's what I had to verify with you while we were watching the clip because it's so kind of mind boggling. Donald Trump is still listed as a defendant. They're still indicating that they're proceeding forward. It's unclear to me at this point if they actually plan on prosecuting this case.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, they plan on prosecuting it, don't they? Who can shut them down? It's a state case. The state attorney general. I don't even know if they own it.

[Christina Bobb]

Well, yeah, Carr, that's another one. I mean, Carr is a nightmare for the state of Georgia. But Peter Scandalakis is the executive director, I think, of the prosecutor council for the state of Georgia. He's the one that took this over. That indicates to me that there was no other sitting prosecutor who wanted to actually take this case. He took it on apparently because there was no district attorney or AG or anybody else that wanted to inherit this turd of a case. So he took it. There's a status conference hearing December 1st. The pleading that came out today or the order that came out today looked like the case could be proceeding forward. He's not really a sitting prosecutor, so there is a possibility that he put himself on the list to be able to file a motion to dismiss the case. So that's what I'm hoping happens. That's what should happen. I don't know where he will prosecute this out of. I mean, he'll have to kind of Jerry rig and create a team to do this, but.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, they would do that in a second. They could before the midterm to get Trump in a trial next summer. Look, it's not going to happen. My point is these are the type of fantasies they keep driving.

[Christina Bobb]

Right. And it was so unbelievable that as the clip was playing, I had to verify with you, like, am I hearing what I'm hearing? Because this is so bizarre that they would try to do this. But yeah, there are other arguments to be made, though. And in the order that came out said, you've got to raise your motions now, otherwise I'm going to assume you don't have any. Like I'm going to assume that we've heard everything that's going to be heard. There likely will be other motions raised.

[Lisa Rubin]

Certainly.

[Steve Bannon]

The status conference in December, could it be dismissed then? Or is that when he sets up the process to dismiss it?

[Christina Bobb]

Either way. It could be either way. And I, like I said, I don't really know what this prosecutor's going to do. I was surprised that it happened this way. I thought it would be dismissed by paper rather than having a hearing. So they may actually be trying to move forward.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, if they have any possibility of keeping this thing in the public eye, they remember he tried, tried to illegitimately steal the 2020 election, which we know is opposite. Two things I want to get to because the Tina Peters, but particularly when I talk to people, explain to me the president's trying to be helpful here. Todd Blanche and the team, Ed Martin, the pardons team, particularly with these electors. But everybody's like kind of leaning on the shovel now because it said, hey, all the electors got pardoned. That has no bearing on this state case, correct?

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[Steve Bannon]

I mean, in Arizona and I guess, is it Michigan or what they're going to go down in Jordan, they're going to go even harder here, are they not? Or try to.

[Christina Bobb]

Well, I mean, broad brush, I would say, doesn't really have Any bearing on a state case? You don't. The president doesn't pardon state cases. That usually comes from the governor. That's kind of the traditional talking point on this. However, the argument to be made with the pardons, particularly in this Georgia case, it's a little bit different. I mean, Michigan's already dismissed, so it doesn't really matter.

[Steve Bannon]

So is it Wisconsin and Wisconsin, Nevada?

[Christina Bobb]

Arizona's still open, but our indictment has been thrown out, so. So, you know, it's on. It's in the process.

[Steve Bannon]

Are you still burning up legal fees?

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Oh, yeah.

[Christina Bobb]

I mean, as long as the case is open, administratively, it's open, but there's no valid charging document.

[Steve Bannon]

Is it Judge Troopas Troupas out of Wisconsin? He's going to be in studio.

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah, Troopas is fantastic.

[Steve Bannon]

One of the defendants, Troupis, is coming to town. He's going to be in studio Tuesday, Wednesday. I want to get all the stories about these people because they've been tortured for a couple of years and spent an enormous amount of money, 100%.

[Christina Bobb]

And troupe is actually in Wisconsin prior to coming up with the alternate electors plan, he actually went to the Attorney General and they had a meeting, a hearing, whatever. And he said, hey, we believe that we need to. To preserve the electors votes. He went and told them, hey, this is what we're going to do. Said this to the Attorney General, Let us know if you have any problems with it, because we believe that these steps need to be taken in order to preserve Donald Trump's ability to cast these votes later. And the Attorney General approved it. He said, you know, there was a memo somewhere floating around that that's okay. There's nothing illegal about this. Go ahead and do it. And it was because the Attorney General approved it that Troopas said, okay, this is what we're gonna go forward and do. And then, lo and behold, they turn around and indict Troopas and Mike Roman and Ken Chesbrough. Not even the electors. I mean, the Wisconsin case reeks to high heaven. But back to the pardon issue. The way the pardons could actually impact the state cases, if you wanna go down that road, is kind of what they were talking about in the clip, that these are not actually state charges, these should be federal charges. It's a federal election. Federal law supersedes state law on this issue. And so the pardon, the bigger issue of what's actually being charged really is a federal. Even though they're state charges, it is a federal offense. And so that pardon should apply to this case. To these state charges. It's an argument to be made. I don't know who or how anybody was going to raise it, but normally a federal pardon, a presidential pardon wouldn't impact the state case. But there actually is an argument to be made here.

[Steve Bannon]

And why is that?

[Christina Bobb]

Because it's a federal election. And the heart of what they're doing is a federal election.

[Steve Bannon]

But then they would be admitting that they charge you illegitimately. Because it's. I mean, the people in Arizona are not going to agree to that. The state.

[Christina Bobb]

No.

[Steve Bannon]

There is out of control.

[Christina Bobb]

No. The AGs and Fanny Willis, they will all oppose it. But the judge could agree with you.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes.

[Christina Bobb]

So it's an. It's emotion that they might bring Tina Peters.

[Lisa Rubin]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

Why is she still in. Why is she in a state prison?

[Christina Bobb]

Because the state of Colorado.

[Steve Bannon]

I know, but aren't they saying now that the machines are their problems with the machines? You've got the congressman from Texas saying that now that some guy's bought them that used to be a Republican state election official, that Dominion machines came.

[Christina Bobb]

Oh, yeah, the Liberty Vote. Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Crockett's out there saying you can't use it. Isn't it time? And I hear that the BFC up that main justice has told the BoP make arrangements with Colorado authorities to transfer her to a federal facility, probably to be a witness potentially in a federal case. But Colorado's refusing. I hear today that I think EPA or somebody sending money to Colorado should we not just cut off. Should we talk to the president, have him cut off all money to Colorado until she's released? Is she a political prisoner?

[Christina Bobb]

100%, she's a political prisoner. They're holding her hostage. I mean, she's a gold star mom. She's in her 70s. She was an elected official. This was an absolute sham trial. I mean, they manufactured these convictions in order to score political points for their base in Colorado. And a lot of the information that's coming out, she was right. Like you mentioned, a lot of the. Her concerns about the machines have been proven to be valid. Her concerns about.

[Steve Bannon]

And Democrats are saying now Jasmine Crockett's one of the highest visibility.

[Christina Bobb]

Exactly.

[Steve Bannon]

She's thinking of running for the Senate. And she's saying, hey, Texas can't use any of these machines. I'm not sure they use them anyway. But she says the machines ought to be banned nationwide. You got Jasmine Crockett, the most radical, saying that. How's Tina Peters not sprung from jail?

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah, I mean, Colorado should be.

[Steve Bannon]

How bad is as bad as Arizona?

[Christina Bobb]

I think. I actually think Colorado is worse. I mean, Tina Peters is in prison unfairly. You know, thankfully in Arizona we don't have that at the moment. Although Chris Maze is working very hard to try to do that. Not just to us.

[Steve Bannon]

She would have thrown. All she would have thrown it was you and Boris. They had some high value targets.

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah. And the electors too. And Tyler Boyer from usa.

[Steve Bannon]

Tyler Boyer, the head of ballot chasing for Charlie Kirk. Boris Epstein, the President's lawyer.

[Christina Bobb]

Rudy Mark Meadows.

[Steve Bannon]

Mark Meadows, former chief of staff John Eastman. John Eastman, Christina Bobb of President's lawyer. They had eight or 10 high value added targets to take down and put in prison.

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah, and she tried. She thankfully hasn't been successful. But it's not just us. I mean, the election elector's case, even though I would. I'm grateful that it's getting a lot of attention now because of the pardon and some of the information that's coming out. But it, after the election, it really did kind of go underground for a little bit. People were like, oh, we won. A lot of people assumed the case was over or cases were.

[Steve Bannon]

People assume the cases over. That's not. You're right. It may help them. Everything. The case is not over.

[Christina Bobb]

The cases are not over. Well, Michigan is, but none of the other ones are over.

[Steve Bannon]

Wisconsin's on the judge is here next week. Arizona's on Georgia. They should dismiss it. They don't know. But you just saw from msnbc, they're lathered up because Trump could be on trial in the summer before the midterms.

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah, exactly. I mean, what they're trying to do is just throw sand in the gears to one, make sure the Trump administration doesn't actually accomplish its objectives and doesn't actually fulfill its mandates. And then two, just. I think they're just disgruntled people that like causing chaos.

[Steve Bannon]

What are you talking about? These people are evil. The demonic. They're trying to come after you guys. The white hats. The people have done great, great work. So you're going to co host for me for the hour. We've got Gates from Central America live. We're going to have Alex Brucewicz, I think, is going to our Palm beach studio to talk about Indiana today. Told the President of the United States, sorry, not sorry, can't do anything on redistricting. So you suck on that. Brucewicz is not happy about that. He's on the Mike Pence team. And of course, we got Jack Posobec, I think, heading to a UFC fight. We're gonna get it all done here in the war room. Short break. Back in a moment.

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[Christina Bobb]

Hey, welcome back to War Room. I'm excited to talk with Alex Brucewicz. You've got some fun news out of Indiana. Alex, tell us what's going on.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

I'm not sure how fun it is, Christina. It's an actual portrayal of what's happening in Indiana. It's terrible what's happening. We have Republicans that still have no idea what time it is. We're watching Gavin Newsom steal five congressional seats in California and the Republican legislature in Indiana can't even do the right thing and do what the people of Indiana want and redistrict. It's obstruction that's happening straight from the top. The state Senate president, his name is Roderick Bray. He's totally weak. He's totally clueless. And they're going to hurt our abilities to win in the midterms because they refuse to do the right thing. And so it's time after time that Ryan has always let us down. I'm not sure we're now 10 years into the Donald J. Trump experiment. Donald Trump has taught the Republican Party how to win. And you win by being ruthless, and you win by fighting and showing courage. You don't win. You don't by being a feckless loser. That's the party of the past. And for some reason, that Indiana legislature still likes to live in that.

[Steve Bannon]

But hang on for a second. Hang on a second. We're already eight to nothing. Correct? We're eight to nothing in Indiana. We want to go. We want to gowe want to take this. Go to 9 1, right? We want that extra seat. I thought the governor was with us. We had this huge event a couple of months ago. Senator Banks, I think, put it on. Raheem was out there. I think you were out. I thought we had this done. And then Mike Pence got involved and then the state. Why are they telling the president of the United States? Because Virginia just told us they're going 10 0. So we want to go 90 in or 101 in Virginia. We want to go 90 in Indiana. Why are they getting weak now that other states have come in after the Tuesday election results and particularly after Newsom stole, stole this, stole five seats in California? Why are they getting weak now?

[Alex Bruesewitz]

That's a great question, Steve. I have no idea why they're getting weak. And they're so weak, the state Senate president, Roderick Bray, he won't even call a vote to have redistricting voted on. He doesn't want to have the names of the rinos out there who are going to vote to obstruct it. It's crazy what's happening. And Steve, two weeks ago, we saw, on Tuesday, two weeks ago, we saw that the Republican establishment totally let down the people of Virginia and totally let down the people of New Jersey, and they still do not know how to win with Donald Trump not on the ballot. And I can promise you that getting weak need on redistricting when the entire state of Indiana wants it. I was just in Fort Wayne, on Monday, and we had 500 people there, you know, chanting and cheering when I was talking about how the president is advocating for redistricting. They want it done, but the rhinos in the legislature, they are refusing to do it. And so we still have a really huge rhino problem. I know, you know, you called out Steve. You've never stopped calling that out. And I think a lot of people on our side in Washington are waking up to that once again and realizing that Donald Trump might be in the White House right now, and the Republicans still, you know, might be in the House and the Senate and in legislatures all across the country, but still many Republicans are not with us. They fight against us potentially for very corrupt reasons. And so we need at least Roderick Bray, the state Senate president, to. To call for a vote. The people of Indiana deserve to know which senators are with them and who are against them. But I can promise you that we're going to be taking a very strong look at primaring every single RINO senator that is standing in our way on this effort, 100%.

[Christina Bobb]

That absolutely needs to happen. There's been this sentiment that I've seen a little bit here in D.C. you know, certainly in Congress, and I think maybe even in some aspects, partly of doj. But it's almost like some of these Republicans seem to not realize that if they don't take the opportunity that America gave them with this huge red wave that happened in 2024, if they don't seize that opportunity, clean out the corruption, accomplish what needs to accomplish, maybe they don't realize that the tables will be turned and they will be targets. I mean, I don't know if they don't understand what happened during the previous this presidential election. But, Alex, do you see that? Whether it's in Indiana, I know you go all over the country. Is there some level of a Pollyanna attitude of, oh, they're not gonna come after me, I'm, you know, I'm squeaky clean, or I'm. It's like blinded by arrogance. I don't know what it is, but I see it, and I think they don't. They don't realize that they're. They're standing in the bullseye of a target and they're about to arm their opponent. They have to take this opportunity to disarm their opponents. What do you think?

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Well, I totally agree with you, and I was going to use the word arrogance. There's definitely an arrogance among Republicans all across the country, and it's an unfounded arrogance because the Republican Party has not had success. Donald Trump has had success. The only reason Republicans are in the House and in the Senate and in governors mansions and in state legislators all across the country is because of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. And the MAGA movement doesn't owe the Republicans in office anything, to be honest. And so. So when the Republicans in office don't fight for the MAGA voters, when they don't fight for Republican voters, there's going to be a turnout problem. And you saw that two Tuesdays ago in Virginia. You saw that. All across the country you're seeing that when Donald Trump's not on the ballot. You have to have a reason to get these people out to vote. And they turn out for the fighters. They turn out for those who have courage. They don't turn out to those turn out for those who have weak knees and always capitulate. And so we absolutely need the Republicans to get smart or get tough or we're going to have some serious problems in 26. And Steve, I think you've been a great advocate.

[Steve Bannon]

It's not simply Trump as an individual, because we know we have a terrible time getting out low propensity, low information voters unless President Trump's on the ticket. This is why the midterms are so important. But it's also just from a policy or your pitch in 28. I don't care who the candidate is. Are we going to say next this time we mean it. This is my point. We have a mandate. We have the House, we have the Senate. We have a majority. We have a 6, 3 majority in the Supreme Court. We have the executive branch. You're never, ever going to have this moment in time again.

[Christina Bobb]

And a majority of governors and a majority of state AGs and a majority of state houses and a majority of state legislatures are Republican.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on. And if you take the state party delegations in Congress, if we had to have a contingent election, you'd win their too. We are never going to have this again. Bruce Awicz, your thoughts? What don't they get about? We got a mandate. You have to execute on the mandate, sir.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Well, your audience comes in so handy here, Steve, because you have the heart and soul of our movement that listens to your show every single day. They pick up the phones and they call their legislators and they say, do the right thing. And so I guess I have a call to action to your audience is identify the rhinos in Indiana who are obstructing. Please pick up the phone and tell them to redistrict and do what the people want. And when it comes to the Senate, like the president has been calling to abolish the filibuster, we have the majority and we do have a mandate. Donald Trump won every swing state. He won the popular vote, and not by a little margin. He won by a substantial margin. There's a mandate to advance the president's agenda. Meanwhile, we have senators who refuse to get through to end the filibuster. And it still feels like the Democrats are in charge of the Senate, which it shouldn't feel that way. They were totally rejected in November and the Senate lets them getthey steamroll us. And so we need to end the filibuster. We need to redistrict. And if we don't, there's going to be a massive enthusiasm problem in 2026. And then the Senate will be like, oh, golly, please, you know, you have to turn out for us or they're going to impeach Trump. Like, I don't know how much, you know, it's crazy. The only lead on Trump, I don't know what the Republican Party looks like post Trump because it's clear as day that they still haven't learned any of their lessons from the years past.

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah, they're delusional, thinking they're kind of schizophrenic because on one hand they're delusional thinking they have more support than they actually do. But then on the other hand, they're still running on the platform of but at least we're not the Democrats. I mean, that's terrible. That's their platform.

[Steve Bannon]

I just want to make a mention before you leave. Brucewicz, the fight now is Indiana and we're going to have some numbers and some names tomorrow on the Saturday morning show, some of the whole posse. But we have Ohio, Florida, Kansas, Nebraska, maybe Louisiana, North Carolina. If we don't pick up a net 10 seats. And you've got Westmore calling some commission together in Maryland. Spanberger's already said we're going 10 to 1 in the Commonwealth. Virginia, I don't want all the riders to understand you're having it six, five. Now you're having four seats blown out. Okay. And they're going to do it. So, Bruce Awicz, what is your call to action overall? We'll have names and numbers, tomorrow's show and Monday's show. But right now, what's the call to action?

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Well, your country needs you right now. Your audience, our country needs you right now. You have to be as engaged as ever. You need to be putting pressure on the republicans who are in positions of power and who have the ability to do the right thing. And if they don't, then we need to turn out in massive numbers in 2020 to primary these people and put people in place who will have the courage. And, you know, I think the entire maga movement is incredibly frustrated with what they're seeing come out of republicans in washington. They're frustrated with what they're seeing come out of republicans in the legislature. And then they look at the democrats in california and in virginia who don't get weak kneed, who literally just bulldoze. And we need to takeyoue have to learn a few lessons from them. We have to fight for our people. We need to fight for what is right. And I think your audience is going to be so critically important to make sure that they do.

[Steve Bannon]

Alex, what's your social media? What are your coordinates? Where do people get you?

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Follow me. Lexbruzewitz on all social media platforms. And Steve, thanks for the opportunity to come on. Keep fighting, man. What are you talking about, man?

[Steve Bannon]

Your twitter feed is on fire. You got some attention out in the end today, I will tell you that. Brucewicz, we love you.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Keep fighting, man.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Thanks, brother.

[Steve Bannon]

What don't they get as you go around the country? We're at war. This is a political war.

[Christina Bobb]

I genuinely don't.

[Steve Bannon]

They know that you could go to prison for many years?

[Christina Bobb]

Oh, I don't think they care. I think. I think. I wasn't planning on saying this, but I actually think there's a large part of the republican party or people in politics that are fine getting rid of those of us that.

[Steve Bannon]

You said the quiet part out loud.

[Christina Bobb]

I did. I didn't mean to, but you asked, so I think. I genuinely don't think they care.

[Steve Bannon]

They would be happy if a couple of the maga, the hardest core maga leaders, like guys, people like you that have been in the prison.

[Christina Bobb]

I mean, seriously, how many people were like, I'm gonna fight for you, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

They were happy.

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

I want to talk about the book, but also what you're working at Judicial Watch. A bunch of stuff breaking. What's happening over there? That's a great shop you got Tom Fenton's the best Ferrell, you guys are. It's Hammers.

[Christina Bobb]

I feel like I got so lucky landing there. Judicial Watch is fantastic. So yeah, so there have been a hand things. What I released most recently was the whistleblower complaint that it started as a motion in my criminal defense case, a motion to disqualify Chris Mays.

[Steve Bannon]

It appears that she the Arizona ag.

[Christina Bobb]

The Arizona. Yes, the Arizona Attorney General. And then I kind of handed it off to the Department of Justice. I filed a motion to disqualify her because she brought in an organization called States United Democracy center to help prosecute us. She claims attorney client privilege. She claimed it on the record. She claimed it in email. They refused to turn everything over because they say that States United Democracy center is part of the prosecution team. And then so I started digging into it. Of course it's the normizen Mark Elias Group. It was started by.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

On.

[Christina Bobb]

According to StatesUnited's website, they were started. They were an initiative of the Progressive State Leadership Committee, which I looked into them, and on their 990, they have the same address, same leadership team, same bank account, and they say, oh, so the Democrat Attorney General's association files our tax returns for us. They're basically another name for the Democrat Attorney General's association, which at the time of my indictment, I was senior counsel at the rnc. So I would say that's a conflict of interest, maybe. So I looked into the Democrat Attorney General's Association. I was just curious. I think that's a conflict in and of itself. But I wondered if any money changed hands. So I looked up the contributions after the 2022 election, which was the election that got Chris Mays into office. The Democrat Attorney General's association after the election, in 2020, in 2024, they funneled a total of $200,000 to Chris Mays, which was during the time of our grand jury investigation, which was during the time of our indictments. I don't know, it looks fishy to me. And so I filed that whistleblower complaint with the Department of Justice. And then naturally I started looking into the other states, into Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada. We just dropped about 6,000 pages of information that came from States United.

[Steve Bannon]

How can people get this?

[Christina Bobb]

Go to the Judicial Watch website. You can look up my whistleblower complaint there. And you can look up the latest release on Michigan.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, I'm gonna come back to your book in a second. Why are you taking the evening off? Normally you're the hardest working guy besides me. What are you doing? Somebody tells you you're going to a UFC fight.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, Steve, what can I say? Tomorrow. Tomorrow we're going, me and Tanya Tay heading up to Madison Square Garden, New York City. We're going to be joined by the likes of Benny Johnson and Tony Bobulinski and probably another star studded cast. Because what we're going to be doing is before the big UFC tomorrow night, Madison Square Garden. Everybody remembers when Trump blew the roof off there last year. We're going back with 3,000 Charlie Kirk freedom T shirts with the Turning Point crew. We're going to be handing every single one out for free.

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Wow.

[Steve Bannon]

So give me this again, people. You and Benny Johnson, who else? And you're going to go in with 3,000 Tony Boba Lintro.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We're getting the. We're getting. We're getting the Pierogi gang back together. Steve Pierogi gang is getting back together and we are going to be arriving at Madison Square Garden with pierogies, with Gumpke, with Kabasi, and with 3,000 Charlie Kirk T shirts. You might even. We'll teach Benny John to eat some pierogi. He'll like it. But yeah, Tony Bobulinski will be there, I'll be there. Tanya Tay will be there. It's going to be amazing. 3000 Freedom Charlie Kirk shirts.

[Steve Bannon]

That's amazing. By the way, we're going to try to get you on. I got some other stuff I want to go through on Ukraine and other hotspots around the world, try to track you down tomorrow. Where can people find. Benny Johnson's going to be there. I know. It'll be live stream, right, Benny? Benny will have his live stream. Where. Where can people. Where can people. What are your coordinates? Where can people get you?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You'll be up at Jack Posobic. We're going to be all over the place. And, and by the way, just as you know, special war room, since we're going for the announcements, we'll do another special announcement here for the war room posse. You heard it here, folks. I will be appearing as a special guest on the Megyn Kelly tour next week in Bakersfield, California.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, wow, that's amazing. Give us that again, any details about that.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So this is her Bakersfield, California stop. It's going to be next Thursday in California.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, fine. We'll get it up.

[Christina Bobb]

That'll be good.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll see you tomorrow, Jack. Jack Bassovic, thank you. Look forward to tomorrow night watching you guys at ufc and hopefully I can get you. I'll talk to you later tonight, get you on the tomorrow show, talk some geopolitics politics.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thanks, guys. Good to see you, Christina.

[Christina Bobb]

You too, Jack.

[Steve Bannon]

It's amazing. Jack Posobic, talk to me about the book.

[Christina Bobb]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

How we doing? Can we get the COVID of the book up there? The COVID of the book. And by the way, can we get the poster that. From Dan Fluitt. Dan Fluette, my producer, my film producer for years and years and years, took all the great photos for his book. Right. And he took the COVID of your book, which is amazing. If we can get that up there. Tell me about the book. Why should people buy this book?

[Christina Bobb]

Yeah, Defiant Inside the Mar A Lago raid and the left's ongoing lawfare. I was President Trump's custodian of records for Mar A Lago. I was on site during the raid. I met with the Department of Justice and FBI about two Months prior as one of two people that did.

[Steve Bannon]

You know how corrupt the whole thing is.

[Christina Bobb]

I know how corrupt the whole thing is.

[Steve Bannon]

You were there at the front saying, hey, come down. And you know absolutely everything the FBI.

[Christina Bobb]

Did got text messages, emails, it's all in there. The big takeaway that I really want people to take away is a lot of times you look at the media and you go, you know, I know they're lying to us. Everyone assumes the media is lying. You will be floored at how much they're lying. It's not like a 90%, 10% truth. It's 180 degrees from the truth, from what actually happened versus what they reported to you. And I really want people to understand the difference.

[Steve Bannon]

But this gets back to the point. The reason I want people to buy the book and go to Amazon is that it gets back to what Brucewicz and Gates were saying, that we've had an opportunity, we have a mandate. People want to see this. I know we got the grand jury in southern Florida, but people want to see action taking this thing apart, right?

[Alex Bruesewitz]

Yeah.

[Christina Bobb]

And I think what's so significant about that is, you know, what we're seeing coming out of the Department of Justice right now with Bolton and Comey and Letitia James, it's like, okay, if they broke the law, they deserve to be prosecuted. Whatever. Those are not the cases that people want to see. They want to see the cabal that raided Mar A Lago, that allowed the.

[Steve Bannon]

Jack Smith the grand conspiracy.

[Christina Bobb]

That's what we want to see.

[Steve Bannon]

And so do you believe that's going in? You know, Mike Davis says, hey, you get this group down there. Do you believe that's happening now in Fort Pierce or South Florida, wherever it's going?

[Christina Bobb]

I sure hope so. I haven't seen anything on it. You know, I know they're keeping a close hold, but I have not seen anything that leads me to believe that's what's happening.

[Steve Bannon]

But maybe it is Judicial Watch the best. Where do people get you Judicial Watch? What are your coordinates? How they get the book? How do you get your Twitter, all your content?

[Christina Bobb]

Yep, the book's available, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, wherever books are sold. My social media is at Christina on Underscore. Bob. Bob website. Christina. Bob.com and yeah, you can find me there.

[Steve Bannon]

Thanks for doing. You're just in the neighborhood. Just a neighbor. Just wanted to just stop by. Hey, you're now the co host. We're going to Shanghai. It's not like Next man up. But hey, you never know when you need some coast. Thank you so much for doing this.

[Christina Bobb]

Thanks, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

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