THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON EPISODE #4939

Summary

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Real America’s Voice – War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4939 – November 19, 2025

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Overview

This episode of “The War Room” is anchored by Stephen K. Bannon and features a dynamic panel with Joe Allen, Julie Kelly, Greg Fouraz, Colonel Self, Kurt Mills, and contributions from Jake Seawolf. The discussion is centered around the latest geopolitical and legal developments affecting the U.S., including covert operations in Venezuela and Mexico, mounting judicial conflicts surrounding Trump administration policies, the ongoing conservative pushback against federal and state-level AI regulation, intensified scrutiny over Islamic organizations in Texas, and internal GOP battles over national security appointees.

The tone is urgent and combative, consistently calling for grassroots pressure, action against perceived overreach, and vigilance against both Democratic and establishment Republican actors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Covert U.S. Actions in Mexico and Venezuela

• Cartel Violence and Foreign Influence in Mexico (01:34)

  • Jake Seawolf lays out rising cartel violence targeting conservative politicians in Mexico, supported by alleged Chinese Communist Party interests, and the growing national security threat to the U.S.
  • Advocates for “leadership change” in Mexico, suggesting possible U.S. “kinetic strikes” and covert actions.

• Shift in U.S. Strategy Toward Venezuela (02:43–05:58)

  • Bannon and Joe Allen discuss new reporting on the Trump administration’s authorization of covert CIA operations in Venezuela and renewed diplomatic channels with the Maduro regime.
  • Uncertainty persists over the true motive: whether it is about oil, stemming immigration, or drugs (highlighting that Venezuela is a transit country for cocaine, not fentanyl).
  • Quote:

    “If you’re trying to tackle the fentanyl problem, you’re not blowing up boats coming out of Venezuela.”
    — Joe Allen [05:58]

2. Judicial Conflict: The Contempt Inquiry Against Trump DOJ

• Jeb Bosberg’s Contempt Proceedings (09:45–15:38)
  • Julie Kelly unpacks a new D.C. federal court hearing where Chief Judge Jeb Bosberg revives a contempt inquiry against Trump’s DOJ, tied to orders during the enforcement of the Alien Enemies Act, particularly regarding the deportation of Venezuelans.
  • The case could escalate to criminal referrals for DOJ officials and is sharply criticized as political weaponization.
  • Quote:

    “Give it to me in English, not in legalese. What is he doing?”
    — Steve Bannon [12:12]

  • Impeachment calls for Judge Bosberg are gaining traction:
    • Six Republican senators have asked for his suspension pending House impeachment, spurred by his role in non-disclosure orders against GOP senators.
• Julie Kelly’s Substack and Advocacy (18:47–20:09)
  • Listeners directed to “Declassified with Julie Kelly” for detailed reports and live updates.

3. Arizonan Politics: Interview with Greg Fouraz

• Greg Fouraz announces his campaign for Arizona Attorney General (20:46–24:26).
  • Critiques incumbent Chris Mays for antagonizing Trump policies and litigating against conservative reforms.
  • Stresses “safe streets, strong borders, and secure elections.”
  • Proposes tightening signature verification, combating ballot harvesting abuse, verifying voter citizenship, and addressing voter rolls tied to homeless shelters.
  • Campaign details at gregfouraz.com

4. AI Regulation and Republican Infighting

• Controversy over Federal AI Moratorium (24:40–29:55)

  • Joe Allen details efforts by Ted Cruz, David Sacks, and Marc Andreessen to slip an AI regulation moratorium into the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), and a pending executive order (EO) seen as a backstop.
  • Concerns raised that the EO enables federal preemption of state regulation, undermining state initiatives on child protection, digital equity, and transparency in AI.
  • Bannon highlights the absence of meaningful federal regulation and the danger of “trusting companies to self-regulate.”
  • Quote:

    “Typically, even a pack of cigarettes isn’t going to tell you to shoot yourself in the head. With AI, it’s completely unregulated in any meaningful way.”
    — Joe Allen [37:25]

• Industry Influence and Risks (39:16–40:44)

  • Allen accuses Marc Andreessen (Andreessen Horowitz) and others of manipulating policy for their self-interest—citing apps that facilitate cheating, deepfakes, and bot swarms as areas of concern.

• Grassroots Action

  • Listeners are urged to use tools like Bill Blaster and contact Congress to block the AI moratorium.

5. Texas Designates Islamic Organizations as Terrorist Groups

• Governor Abbott’s Actions (31:37–35:23)
  • Colonel Self and Bannon discuss Texas’ designation of CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood as foreign terrorist organizations, a “first step” intended to “wake up” citizens to the perceived threat from Sharia law.
  • Investigation into Sharia courts in Texas is anticipated.

6. GOP Foreign Policy Struggles: Pentagon Appointments

• Internal GOP Conflict Over National Security Staff (41:31–44:20)

  • Kurt Mills (The American Conservative) reports Senate neocons are blocking President Trump’s picks for key Department of Defense roles (specifically Elbridge Colby and Austin Dahmer).

  • Asserts entrenched establishment efforts to maintain control over U.S. foreign policy, warning that without personnel reform, “neocon foreign policy will persist.”

  • Quote:

    “Little bureaucrats, quote, unquote, are the people that got us into the Iraq war... and the people who can stop us getting into reckless wars in Iran, Venezuela, etc.”
    — Kurt Mills [44:29]

• Call to Action

  • Urges listeners to pressure the Senate to confirm Trump’s nominees and advocate for a realist foreign policy agenda.

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Notable Quotes

• Bannon (on regime change):

  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.” [07:34]

• Julie Kelly (on judge impeachment):

  “Six U.S. Republican senators finally sent a letter to the chief judge ... asking this chief judge to suspend Jeff Bosberg pending House impeachment proceedings.” [14:56]

• Joe Allen (AI regulation):

  “What this EO and what the potential moratorium injected into the NDAA would do is to block the ability of states to govern themselves ... Surveillance is a huge issue. The copyright infringement is a huge, huge issue.” [37:25]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:34 – Cartel violence in Mexico and Chinese influence (Jake Seawolf)
• 02:43 – U.S. covert actions in Venezuela and foreign policy calculus (Bannon, Joe Allen)
• 09:45 – Judge Bosberg’s contempt hearing breakdown (Julie Kelly)
• 18:47 – Senatorial push to impeach Bosberg (Julie Kelly)
• 20:46 – Greg Fouraz’s pitch for AZ Attorney General
• 24:40 – AI moratorium, executive order, and state vs. federal regulatory battle (Joe Allen)
• 31:37 – Colonel Self on Texas designating CAIR and Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist orgs
• 41:31 – GOP internal rift over Pentagon picks, realism vs. neocon foreign policy (Kurt Mills)

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Action Items for Listeners

• Pressure Representatives: Use Bill Blaster and contact info on war room and Joe Allen’s social accounts to oppose the federal AI moratorium.
• Support Judicial Reform: Subscribe to Julie Kelly’s Substack for updates on the Bosberg impeachment process.
• Get Involved Locally: Follow and support candidates like Greg Fouraz in state-level races against established Democrats.
• Stay Informed: Track the progression of Texas’ actions against Islamic organizations (updates expected in upcoming episodes).

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Tone & Language

The episode is delivered in a direct, combative, and hyper-political style. Bannon and his guests employ vivid metaphors (“primal scream of a dying regime... going medieval on these people”), laments about “inaction” and “leaning on rakes,” and issue constant rallying cries for immediate grassroots engagement.

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For Further Details

• Julie Kelly’s Substack: "Declassified with Julie Kelly"
• Joe Allen’s AI Analysis and Action Tools: joebot.xyz, [@joebotxyz on X]
• Greg Fouraz’s Campaign: gregfouraz.com
• Kurt Mills’ Journalism: theamericanconservative.com
• Bill Blaster for Congressional Outreach: billblasterapp.org

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This summary captures the political urgency, the range of topics addressed, the specific legislative and grassroots actions advocated, and the notable moments and language characteristic of The War Room’s style.

Transcript

[Julie Kelly]

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[Jake Seawolf]

When Sheinbaum was elected, they killed 27 different Conservative candidates, largely assassinated by the cartels and in many cases it was funded by the Chinese Communist Party because they're trying to do state capture of Mexico with the fentanyl, with the other drug trafficking and with other aspects of trade the CCP is trying to put their hooks in at all levels of the Mexican society. That becomes a huge problem for the United States. And again, I'm not advocating an 1845 style invasion at Veracruz. Again, we need to push for leadership change. Maybe, maybe the United States starts doing it at a governor level where a state governor says I'm ready to take this on. And we support them that way. With kinetic strikes, with COVID action, with the means to overmatch the cartels. I feel terrible for the average cop. The good cop tries to do the right thing in Mexico because they're immediately met by overwhelming force which wipes out not just them but their family and it kills their entire family. Ugly. So yeah, at some point some greater force is going to have to be unleashed.

[Steve Bannon]

The New York Times has new reporting that the President has signed off on new ways to put Even more pressure on Venezuela, including authorized covert CIA action inside the country. The Times also reports the administration has reopened back channel diplomatic negotiations with the Maduro regime. What makes this different?

[Joe Allen]

Yeah, that's a good question. And it's good to explain to listeners and viewers exactly what has changed here. So a few weeks ago we had the president, you know, authorize the CIA to do, in theory, covert actions inside Venezuela. But what was different then is that there weren't any concrete plans. And now what we have is the president not saying the plan should necessarily start, but approving the specific development. This is not likely. Boots on the ground. We don't know for sure what President Trump has in mind, but the kinds of things could be cyber psychological operations, sabotage or information operations. They're developing some kind of plans along these lines and then they will tee them up for the President to decide to go if certain things happen. But there's you, you know, quite frankly, a lot we don't know besides the fact that the Trump administration is increasing the pressure on the Venezuelan government.

[Steve Bannon]

We've gone from over the weekend, late last week, when they're briefing people on Capitol Hill about a potential strike and the Secretary warhegseth is walking through a huge range of alternatives to now. President Trump says when he gets off the plane last night that Maduro's all over him, they want to talk about a deal. And President Trump says, you know, I'm willing to listen, right, and talk. What has changed? Is it that the Ford showed up with a strike group and now you have instead of 4,000 fleet Marines and sailors, you've got, I don't know, 12,000 to 15,000. Is that what got their attention? Did they take your advice and put the $50 million on him dead or alive? Why? We had looks like a sea change in the last 72 hours.

[Jake Seawolf]

Perhaps there were some covert actions that worked. But to me, this is not solved by, by carrier air wings and B52s. This is done by making people change their minds really at the margin. And it's really Maduro Diaz, Nado Cabello, Jorge Adelsey Rodriguez, the padrino, the head of the military. Until they drive all those folks out, I don't think Maduro himself is going to leave because the other people won't let them leave if they don't get the same deal.

[Steve Bannon]

There is this open question that I have not gotten satisfactory, a satisfactory answer to. What's the goal here? What's the point of all this? What is the administration really trying to do? Is it about oil they'll state fentanyl, but fentanyl is not produced by Venezuela. And if you're really going after fentanyl, you're not blowing up individual boats. You're going to be shutting down the border and shutting down container ships that are, that are smuggling and smuggling it in through the border. What does your reporting tell you about both fentanyl and maybe what the end goal really is here?

[Joe Allen]

Yeah, these are both really good questions. Questions that a lot of Americans are asking themselves right now. We did a story today that simply said there is no fentanyl on the boats that the United States has blown up. We know this from the closed door briefing that members of the military gave to Congress. They said there was cocaine and not fentanyl on those boats. And we know what Venezuela's role is in the drug economy. They're a transit country for Colombian cocaine. Some portion of Colombian cocaine goes through Venezuela, although most of it goes on to Europe, not to the United States. Fentanyl is mostly made in Mexico and smuggled into the United States. This, if you're trying to tackle the fentanyl problem, you're not blowing up boats coming out of the Venezuela. So your other question, what is the end game here? We know that there are elements in the Trump administration, most notably Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who want Maduro gone, who, you know, have over and over said he's an illegitimate leader, which he is. He lost an election and held on to power. But President Trump, who's also signal Maduro, might not be around for much longer. He has not really talked about regime change. He talks about Venezuela in the context of immigration and drugs. So what is the exact end goal here? We're just not sure.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Joe Allen]

WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Wednesday 19th November Year of Allure 2025 Joe Allen is riding shotgun. The reason is we have a lot of work to do on this artificial intelligence moratorium. Joe's got tons of details on how people can get activated, and we'll get to that in a second. Of course, Erik Prince was so nice to carve timeout while he was in Europe the other day to join us and talk about the COVID action today in the New York Times. And you saw an EMIS on Emma. Now, I guess it's shammy wow or whatever it is, whatever the name is over there. They, they kind of broke the story of the New York Times. Looks like covert action instead of a airstrike or military strike in Venezuela. And in addition, are we going to do covert action in Mexico to get to the fentanyl and get to the cartels? More about that later. Want to start with Julie Kelly. Julie Bosward, tell what happened today because I think people are reaching their limits. We got to get some action here. We had the polling on this morning about what the midterms look like. Rich Barris at People's pundit is D plus 8. Maris is D plus 14. A couple others of D plus 10. You've got a D plus 5 over there from Marquette. But anything over a couple of points on a generic poll is not great. And we have a major situation with these federal judges, particularly this judge in Washington, D.C. that has to be addressed immediately. Julie Kelly, the floor is yours, ma'.

[Julie Kelly]

Am. So today Jeb Bosberg, who is the D.C. the Chief Judge of the D.C. district Court, held a hearing after the appellate court of the D.C. circuit kicked back to him this contempt inquiry that he opened in March of 20th of this year. March of this year. This relates to representations made by the Trump DOJ in the Alien Enemies act litigation. The first lawsuit that hit the docket went to Jeb Bosberg in D.C. now in April of this year, Jeb Osberg claimed that he had found probable cause that the DOJ defied his what he called an oral order. As you recall, Steve, that was during this hearing on the evening of March 15th where Jeb Bossberg ordered the return of two planes out of US airspace carrying illegal Venezuelans tied to Trend Aragua. And this was the basis of the President's Alien Enemies Proclamation. Alien Enemies act proclamation. Those planes had already departed the US out of Texas. They were headed for Central America. Jeb Bossberg said during the hearing return the planes. He then, in a written order issued about an hour later, never said anything about returning the planes. Nevertheless, he has since accused the Trump DOJ of contempt of court. In April of this Year said that he had concluded, found probable cause. That they did, and wanted to move forward with more inquiry and possible, possibly a criminal referral. And that act, that determination, the probable cause determination was vacated by a panel of the D.C. circuit Court, the appellate court. However, they kicked it back to Bostberg, basically saying, you can restart the proceedings, which he did today. And this is going to get very dicey, especially for the Trump Department of Justice. And he has set a schedule for Monday, this Monday, asking both sides, the Trump DOJ and the aclu, who filed a lawsuit for a list of witnesses, and Bossberg himself brought up potential witnesses during the hearing today.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on for a second. So what are you telling me? Bosberg is doing what now? I don't understand this. Give it to me in English, not in legalese. What is he doing?

[Julie Kelly]

Sorry, I thought I did. So this dates back to March of this year, when Jeb Bossberg accused the Trump doj.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah.

[Julie Kelly]

Of contempt. So that. And this is very convoluted. They went back to the appellate court they vacated. They reversed him on his probable cause finding, but then said, okay, you can restart the proceedings whenever you want. And so he restarted and held this hearing today, saying that he believed that justice demanded justice, not doj. Justice overall demanded that he pursue, resume this contempt of court investigation. And he wants to prove this is Trump.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, but. But, but this is because. Or. Or this is because of flying the folks out of the country during the. When the emergency, when President Trump said they got to go. This is what it's about.

[Julie Kelly]

Correct. This is related to the first lawsuit suing the president over his Alien Enemies Act Proclamation, which was put into effect on March 15. The ACLU was already ready that day to file a lawsuit and seek an injunction, preliminary injunction, meaning halting the administration from fulfilling that proclamation. This landed on Jeff Bosberg's desk that day.

[Steve Bannon]

Is he trying to initiate criminal proceedings against lawyers in Trump's Justice Department about trying to enforce. This is what I want to. Bosberg is trying to enforce or bring up potential criminal charges against the DOJ lawyers who were there arguing the case of why the bad hombres had to get on the plane and get out of the country. Correct.

[Julie Kelly]

Correct. But it specifically relates to Bossberg that evening, on March 15, telling the Department of Justice to return two planes that had already left US Airspace headed for Central America, then returning them to Venezuela.

[Steve Bannon]

It was a Saturday claim. That was a Saturday afternoon when they held the code.

[Julie Kelly]

I remember this.

[Steve Bannon]

I remember you came on live in the morning, and on Monday, he Called it Saturday afternoon. Did it?

[Julie Kelly]

Correct, Correct. Exactly right.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, Julie, when is Jordan, don't we have enough evidence out there to show that? We gotta move on impeaching this guy, don't we?

[Julie Kelly]

Yes. And in fact, I have a piece up at my substack declassified with Julie Kelly. You had six U.S. republican senators finally send a letter to the chief judge of the circuit. This is the judge who oversees Bosberg asking, and that's Eric Schmidt right there in Jeff Bosberg asking this chief judge to suspend Jeff Bosberg pending House impeachment proceedings. And in the letter said that there's bicameral support, as we know, in both the Senate and the House to impeach Jeff Bosberg finally. So we'll see what the response is. And I just have no idea what, what House Republicans are waiting for. I really don't.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, where do we get, where do we get the, where do we get the piece right now? It's up on your sub stack, I tell you. Hang on, hang on. I just, I want to, I want to go through this, I want to go through this quickly one more time. This is too important. It's time for action, guys. There's too much inaction, it's too much leaning on rakes. There's too many strongly worded letters and see what happens. This guy's now motivated, he's looking at the polls. He sees what happened a couple Tuesdays ago. He's got all these Democrats running around and he's got the Republican establishment, whether it's in Indiana or in the Senate, you know, not working with President Trump to get done what needs to get done. And they're just gonna sit there's gonna lean on their rakes. Short commercial break. Julie Kelly's with us. We're absolutely packed this afternoon. Short commercial break.

[Joe Allen]

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[Julie Kelly]

So they sent a letter to the chief judge of the D.C. circuit. So this is the ruling judge kind of oversees all the judges, including Jeb Bossberg. So these six senators, Eric Schmidt, Bill Haggerty, Lindsey Graham and others are asking the D.C. circuit Chief Judge to suspend Jeb Bossberg pending impeachment proceedings. Earlier this month, Representative Brandon Gill of Texas filed articles of impeachment against Jeb Osberg. Of course, once it was disclosed that he had signed those nondisclosure orders against several Republican U.S. senators prohibiting two cell phone companies from notifying those senators that Jack Smith subpoenaed their phone records, that's when we saw some support in the US Senate to finally impeach Jeb Bossberg.

[Steve Bannon]

Ma', am, where do they go for your sub stack? People, we got to get on top of this one, like asap. Where do people go for your substack and social media? Ma', am.

[Julie Kelly]

Declassified with Julie Kelly is my substack I have a piece of about Bossberg right now also on X. Julie Underscore Kelly too, where people can find a cover covered that live today so people can go check out my posts and see what Jeff Bosberg said.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you ma'. Am. Appreciate you. Fantastic. Greg Roberg, we had Judge Troupas on this morning from Wisconsin and This guy's got 17 charges against him. They're going to have a trial, trying to have a trial against him for being an alternative electoral in the summer in Wisconsin where they're going to try to put Trump, President Trump on trial too. You've announced that you're running for the attorney general of Arizona. We need one more than ever. Why? Why would you be the best pick why would you be the best pick to take over Arizona's attorney general, which is an absolute disaster right now, sir?

[Greg Fouraz]

Well, like you said, Steve, Arizona's current attorney general, Chris Mays is an absolute disaster. She needs to be replaced. I'm the one to do it because I'm a fighter. I served as President Trump's 2024 election ATT. I was with Trump like you before. It was popular back in 2016 when I first joined the team during the inauguration. And I'm not afraid to stand up like most of the Arizona Republicans in this state are, unfortunately certainly the Arizona Republican politicians.

[Steve Bannon]

Why? What's the, what's the main issues out there? Maes is a disaster, but the Republican establishment refuses to stand up to her. You've been fantastic. What's your, what's your plan? What are you going to do? How are you going to beat her in a general?

[Greg Fouraz]

Well, pretty simple. I'm a stick to three main points, safe streets, strong borders and secure elections. People on both sides of the aisle are sick and tired of hearing about Arizona's elections dragging on months on end, week on weeks on end and questionable results. And people on both sides the issue want that finally resolved. Strong borders and safe streets. It's pretty easy. We have to stand with President Trump and the administration and the work they're doing. Chris Mays has currently 31 elections out or, I'm sorry, 31 lawsuits against the administration shutting down the progress that President Trump, the administration are trying to do. She does so at the expense of the Arizona people. She has a limited number of resources and she could be spending those resources going after the drugs, going after the border, going after the homeless, the fentanyl, you name it. But instead she just wants to score points with ActBlue and Soros and folks like that back east and that's got to stop. And I'm sick and tired again of seeing are squishy go along, get along. Republicans do nothing about it. I'm not a politician. This is my first race and I'm getting in. And we're in it to win it.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve, look, you know the disaster we had in Maricopa County? I mean, Kerry Lake should be governor also in the Senate. We've had more disasters out there. They stole the 2020 from President Trump. Give me your punch list. When you say, you know, safe elections, fair elections, honest elections, what do you intend to do?

[Greg Fouraz]

Well, first of all, we need to enforce the laws on the books. Very simple. You know, we'll get into the weeds.

[Joe Allen]

This is the war room.

[Greg Fouraz]

Our signature verification process is a disaster. As an election attorney, I've been in the counting room watching people sit there like zombies, just approving every signature, click, click, click, not really looking them over. We need oversight on that process. Secondly, we need to take a look at ballot harvesting issues we have in this state. There are some legitimate ballot harvesting laws that people can help their family members, but that's been abused time and time again. Third, there's issues regarding verifying the citizenship of the voters, which in Arizona, you have to prove citizenship to be to vote as you should in every state. And that's something that we can get on top of. The current Secretary of State, Adrian Fontes, as he's totally neglecting that duty. I can keep going. There's a homeless shelter in West Phoenix where there's almost 3,000 voters registered to vote there, which is legal. Destitute people can register a homeless shelter, but there needs to be oversight that that is not being abused.

[Steve Bannon]

What? Tell me about the process. The primary here is not late. The primary is not until August, correct?

[Greg Fouraz]

Correct. We have early voting for about a month before that, but the primary will be in August and the general will be like everywhere else in November.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay. If people want to find out more about your candidacy, like I said this first time you've ever run, people in the Trump world have known you forever. Know you're a fighter. And we certainly need fighters out there. Where do folks go? Where do folks go to find out more about the campaign and what's your social media?

[Greg Fouraz]

So my site is Greg Fouraz. G-R-E G F O R A Z.com and my socials are all Greg Fouraz. That's Instagram X and Facebook pages.

[Steve Bannon]

Greg4Az Greg, fantastic. You're one of the great fighters behind the scenes. And it's great to know that you're going out, stepping out now for elective office. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

[Greg Fouraz]

Thank you, sir. We love you out here in Arizona, Steve. Take care.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, my man. Everybody go check out right now Greg's website. Also social media. Let's load into that. It's gonna be a very tough race out there. We gotta defeat these Democrats. It's unbelievable. Okay, Joe Allen, what do you got on our situation with the moratorium? They're trying to slide it into the NDA, make it a now. This thing's created a firestorm already in Washington D.C. correct?

[Joe Allen]

Absolutely.

[Steve Bannon]

Everybody on Capitol Hill, they're all running and hiding. This is Ted Cruz trying to slip this in.

[Joe Allen]

Ted Cruz is leading the charge. Steve Scalise, of course, David Sacks, Mark Andreessen. People like this are in back of it just to set the stage. All the demons just to set the stage. You've got the AI moratorium that we got blocked over the summer that would stop in the big bill.

[Steve Bannon]

We got it taken out in the last second that night. It was a huge fight. President Trump took it out, force it out at like 2 o' clock in the morning.

[Joe Allen]

Yes. And now it's trying to be the House Republicans again with Ted Cruz leading from the Senate, trying to slip it back into the National Defense authorization act, the NDAA.

[Steve Bannon]

So which another must pass 9,000 page building just slipping into the middle of it.

[Joe Allen]

And you know the background on this. You've got Mark, Mark Andreessen, you've got Greg Brockman, Joe Lonsdale pushing forward with the leading the future pack. They right now it stated $100 million. I'm hearing it's quite a bit more and I'm sure it will be in order to primary or block any candidates that would get in the way of AI legislation. Now Trump is reportedly going to sign an executive order on Friday. So that I just received it and I'm just going through draft of this.

[Steve Bannon]

That would be called a leak. Somebody leaked that. But the is the executive order complement what they're trying to do in putting this thing?

[Joe Allen]

Absolutely. In fact it seems like it's a backstop so that even if they do pull it from the ndaa, the two items that I think are probably sticky, you know that I've gone over the stick out the most. Within 30 days the attorney general would have a litigation task force that would basically do would sue presumably to stop any US State that had passed laws that would get in the way of the US AI national agenda. And then it would also appear that David sacks will within 90 days and various people around him evaluate, produce some evaluation of all the existent state laws of which there are hundreds, many hundreds, almost a thousand. So this entire argument in my mind is just simply one of who gets to decide how AI moves forward under the laws of the country.

[Steve Bannon]

Right now there's no. Right now there's no regulation, except for.

[Joe Allen]

At the state level.

[Steve Bannon]

At the state level, I'm saying at the federal level, when they say the states have got to go away, what are they proposing takes that place?

[Joe Allen]

Well, initially Trump sort of assured people with a true, with a true social post that child protection and, you know, protecting conservatives from censorship would be part of anything that went into the NDAA or any, any kind of federal preemption. He then or his social media team moved that.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, what do you mean? Was that put up in a social. President Trump put that up in a social media post.

[Joe Allen]

That's right. And so President Trump this morning posted. Investment in AI is helping make the US economy the hottest in the world. But overregulation by the states is threatening to undermine this growth. Some states are even trying to embed DEI ideology into the AI models, the so called woke AI, so on and so forth. We must have one federal standard instead of a patchwork of 50 state regulatory regimes. And at the end he says we can do this in a way that protects children and prevents censorship. Someone.

[Steve Bannon]

But he does mention federal regulation. What, what do they mean like that? We haven't seen it so far.

[Joe Allen]

Not at all. I think that what they're shooting for is standard.

[Steve Bannon]

Is that in the, is that in the executive order? Even in draft, you haven't seen it.

[Joe Allen]

Well, still digging through, just received. But yeah, I think that the emphasis is going to be on standards and internal regulation with the companies. So right now that's. How pretty.

[Steve Bannon]

What do you mean? What do you mean internal regulation?

[Joe Allen]

So one example of that would be after OpenAI got all the flack for children committing suicide and people getting AI psychosis and misdiagnosis, they assure that OpenAI's GPT can't be used for medicine. So it's an internal regulation with no one to stand over their shoulder.

[Steve Bannon]

And we don't know that that's just open AI say it's.

[Joe Allen]

That's right, that's right. And then you would have standards that would be official standards of the United States government under the center for AI Innovation. Casey center for AI Standards and Innovation. So that would again, that's something. But it isn't anything like the Child the Kids Online Protection Act. It's. It's nothing like Holly's proposed Risk Assessment Act. These would have actual teeth.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, hang on a second. Joe's gonna be riding shotgun with us for the hour. We're gonna get more into this short commercial break. Back in the warm in just a moment.

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[Colonel Self]

Speaker Islam is a culture with patina of religion. Sharia is the law of Islam. Sharia is dangerous. Western values form the basis for the founding of America, namely that rights come from our Creator. Ours is a Christian based culture. Sharia, on the other hand, is a culture of violence and domination. Totally anathema to the concept of individual freedom. The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another. The Constitution begins with we the people. Sharia states Allah has said. Followers of Sharia believe Muhammad received a divine legal code that stands supreme over all man made laws. While Western civilization has evolved, Islam has not. Islam is stuck in the 8th century and if they succeed at imposing their beliefs upon us, we will be dragged back into the dark ages. The contrasts are stark when comparing Sharia to the strides made by the United States in 250 years, the 13th Amendment.

[Steve Bannon]

Colonel Self joins us now. Colonel, blockbuster news yesterday. I was in a conference room with you five or six weeks ago of what you said, hey, this is my priority to save Texas and save the country. And in five weeks, Governor Abbott has now come out and designated both the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as according to Texas law, as foreign terrorist organizations. Talk to us about that, sir.

[Colonel Self]

Well, this is an important first step, Steve, and that's all it is. It's an important first step to wake up Texas that this is coming. That I don't know why the Muslims have gone on the offense right now in a matter of days, weeks, months, but they have. We've got to wake up. We've got to understand the danger. And I would tell you, don't be intimidated because this is a. This is a dogma of intimidation. Yes, you can walk your dog on the sidewalk and they can't tell you that you are offending them. So both our citizens, our local government, our state government cannot be intimidated. This is an.

[Steve Bannon]

Did he freeze? Okay, we'll have to reboot him. If we can't reboot him, let's go ahead and do it. Let's go and reboot. If it sued too much, we'll just have to do it another time. Let's go back to AI we'll get, by the way, huge news out of Texas. We're going to have a couple of different experts on tomorrow morning go through this. The Texas government, Greg Abbott, has designated the Muslim Brotherhood and care Suck on that as a terrorist organization. So this is going to be enormous. And I think they're banning them to. Banning them from. From buying land. Colonel Self, let's try this one more time if we can. If we can't, we'll try to hook you up at some other time. Keep going, sir.

[Colonel Self]

Well, this is an important first step and I encourage the state, I encourage our citizens in Texas to wake up, to start understanding the danger that Sharia represents to Texas. We've got over 300 mosques in Texas. We've got Sharia courts in Texas, which I believe the governor is now going to investigate. It's a wonderful step. But do not be intimidated when they tell you you can't walk your dog on the street, that is your right. And you. They cannot say that you must not because you're offending me. Look, sharia and Muslims are an intimidation sort of organization. So I am delighted with the governor's action to declare them Foreign terrorist organizations, which is exactly what they are, some of us.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, we can't do this again. We got to just reboot him and let's get do it tomorrow or by phone. Anyway. Huge news out of Texas. Colonel Self been working on this over here on the Capitol to designate them. I think people in the executive branch are also working on it to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. Laura Loomer has a tweet out today saying it was very close, but then Cutter got involved. We'll have more about this tomorrow to make sure that we can put it all out there for you. And Colonel Self will get, hopefully tomorrow, the next day, a better connection with you. You've done a tremendous job. Five or six weeks ago, I was with the Patriot Mobile team and Colonel Self sat right there and said, hey, we're going to get this done in Texas and then we're going to get it done at the national level. Let me know when you get Kurt Mills up, because Kurt Mills is coming in from overseas. Big breaking news out of the Department of War that he'll be here. Let's go back to this. So there's some draft executive order out there, and President Trump's making the case that, hey, look, we can't have all these states jumping in here. But without a national kind of policy or at least a national kind of, at least regulatory framework, does the E.O. bondi's assessment in 30 days, the Attorney General assessment in 30 days and Sachs's in 90 days is both looking at what the states have done. There's nothing in there you've seen so far to initiate the action, to actually get some sort of. We're the deconstruction administrative state crew here, but we're not anarchists. And one of the problems with artificial intelligence there doesn't have to have. There's no regulations. There's virtually no regulations at all. In fact, it takes you more to get a. As I say, to get a license up here on Capitol Hill to do nails in a nail salon than it is. And everything's dependent upon people just self reporting or governing themselves, which, as you know, so far, you can't trust these guys because you never know. You know what they're telling you is accurate.

[Joe Allen]

Yeah. I think one of the big problems is that these companies are just simply acting like they're putting out apps. This is just another tool, another technology. Typically, when you purchase even a pack of cigarettes, it's not going to tell you to shoot yourself in the head. Right. Anything that's Even remotely dangerous, is regulated, labeled, so on and so forth. With AI, as you say, it's completely unregulated in any meaningful way other than these new state laws that are being put in. We'll see what happens there. What this EO and what the potential moratorium injected into the NDAA would do is to block the ability of states to govern themselves, to determine whether they want their children using these apps, whether they want them in the schools, whether they want them in companies. Surveillance is a huge issue. The copyright. The copyright infringement is a huge, huge issue. It's pointed out in here. They're dangling California's law that would demand transparency of companies as some sort of egregious infraction. Right. Some sort of intrusion onto the freedom of corporations. Or Colorado, which. How do they put it?

[Steve Bannon]

He's telling me he's up. Okay.

[Joe Allen]

Algorithmic discrimination, dei, this is all a red herring. What we're talking about is an extraordinarily dangerous and powerful technology that right now only states have taken the initiative and responsibility to really govern all of the child. Online safety acts, risk assessment acts. They're floundering in the US Congress. And we don't know when any of these are going to be implemented, if ever.

[Steve Bannon]

So tomorrow we're going to have. Holly, we're going to have a whole bunch of people on here to go through this, because right now, some states are out there and being pretty aggressive on this. But you're going to need something at the federal level if you want to go away.

[Joe Allen]

If I could just add one thing, just a really good example. We all know about Chat GPT, we all know about Xai's Goomba and things like that. Right? But one of the big driving forces behind getting states out of the way and really getting any government out of the way is Marc Andreessen and his leading the future pack, which we use to. They'll try to destroy anyone in their way.

[Steve Bannon]

They're threatening right now to primary people.

[Joe Allen]

That they've already targeted. One of the reps in New York who's pushing the Raise act, which would basically hold companies liable for major catastrophic damages done. But let's look at some of the things that Marc Andreessen has invested in, the kinds of things that he's trying to protect. A good one, Cluli, an app that advertises itself as an app to help you cheat on everything. Right. And as we know, children right now, probably a third of all children in America are not being educated in any meaningful way and still being passed through because they're copying Reface, a deep fake app, Right. A face swapping app that can be used for any kind of malicious, malevolent purpose. Dangerous from the highest levels of politics all the way down to just kids bullying each other and then double speed, which is probably the most onerous to take a word from the EO onerous program that they've got or a company that they're investing in. This is a 16Z Mark Andreessen. Andreessen Horowitz. And this is basically just a bot farm. It allows you to create hundreds, thousands, however many bots flooding the social media.

[Steve Bannon]

Are you saying right now that in his own self interest, this is why he's doing it?

[Joe Allen]

Yeah, because any state who that is trying to protect its citizens and just really to keep culture intact in any meaningful way is going to do everything to throw sand in the gears of these companies. It might not stop them. People say, oh, you'll never stop. No, but you can at least slow it down and protect the most vulnerable.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you have right now, does Grace have a Bill Blaster, what people are supposed to call and say and do they have it over Article 3 project?

[Joe Allen]

Yes, absolutely. You can find it at the top of my social media. J, O, E, B, O, T, X, Y, Z. You can find at the top of Grace's. Grace's social media war room. We'll have a copy of the draft up for people to look at and argue. And if, if I'm signing off, I think now would be the time.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on a second. You're not signing off yet? Let's go to. We got Kurt Mills overseas. Kurt, we got some breaking news. We gave a little, we talked about a little bit yesterday, but now it's kind of out and about what's happening over the Department of War. President Trump is trying to get a couple of guys approved, confirmed to support Bridge Colby, who's the undersecretary for policy. But it looks like the Republican Senate is not happy with that, sir.

[Kurt Mills]

Yes. Hawks and neoconservatives in the upper chamber appear to be stymying the will of the president to get realists. In the Pentagon, much of the realist energy is often anchored around this figure, Elbridge Colby, who wrote the National Security Strategy in the first Trump administration and is considered a sort of vunderkind within the administration itself. His left tenets, though, are being stymied behind the scenes by neoconservatives and hawks in the Senate. It is the most recalcitrant and anti Trump, frankly, organ of the government at this Point. And it is really just astonishing to see. Yes, Colby's in the Pentagon, but you have key senators that are trying to stop him. Basically having a staff over, you know, basically picayune issues like the status of Romania, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It's just Atlanticist, primacist gobbledygook all over again. And it's the kind of stuff that they're going to try to run out the clock on Trump to address a more realist, forward looking foreign policy for Americans.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the first indication of this lame duck, I'm telling you, the Senate with the filibuster, what's happening in Indiana, it's got to be and it's got to be put down now. It's got to be laid down now. Do you have the names of the two individuals that would be bridge Colby's deputies?

[Kurt Mills]

Yes, the key figure is Austin Dahmer, who used to work for Senator Hawley, who you just mentioned. And there are other ones that could be affected as well. This is also basically the encore to what you saw in the first week of the Trump administration. When I appeared on Mr. Tucker Carlson's program about this, they tried to flush out figures such as Michael Domino in the Pentagon itself. They failed. I believe they'll fell again. But it is the kind of surreptitious activity to deny Trump the staff that he had. And again, the sort of key leitmotif of the first Trump administration, as you know, Steve, is that the administration perhaps failed on personnel or wasn't ready to govern. This is to, this is basically the Empire Strikes Back trying to run the same playbook again, round out the clock on Trump. And these figures are key. These aren't just minor bureaucrats. These are the upper middle class basically of the administration. And if Trump doesn't have his cadres, you're going to see neocon foreign policy.

[Steve Bannon]

Is there any action item that the Warren Posse should take? Is there anything to do right now? Just hold our fire? Are there people to call or just kind of let this play out over a day or two?

[Kurt Mills]

No, you should let the Senate know that these people should be confirmed and that there are key issues beyond Eastern European security, you know, that matter to Americans and focusing the foreign policy on a more realist direction. This stuff matters. Little bureaucrats, quote, unquote, are the people that got us into the Iraq war. They're the people who got us into Libya, they're the people who got us into Syria. And little bureaucrats, quote, unquote, are the People who can stop us getting into reckless wars in Iran, Venezuela, etc. Etc.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on. Can you hang on through the break? So I got Kurt Mills, I've got Joe Allen. Joe. Joe is going to join us. So we got a lot to get through in the next, but we'll do it. Take your phone at Birchgold. Think it's a little crazy right now. By the way, Nvidia just announced their earnings. We're going to get on top of that. Text Bannon at Banno and 989-898, get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. You also get a relationship with Philip Patrick and the team. Philip was on this morning giving a great analysis of the gold market. Okay, short break. Back in a moment.

[Joe Allen]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Kurt Mills, the editor of the American Conservatives, is in Southeast Asia right now. I know you got a bounce. Grace. You're gonna get Grace and myself some details. We're gonna put it up. You need everybody to get to the ramparts right now. About President Trump's selections to be the deputies for Bridge Colby, correct? Is that basically the ask, sir?

[Kurt Mills]

Yes. The key thing here is, number one, they want to stop Bridge Colby from ascending within the government and serving in future Republican administrations as national security adviser, secretary of state, et cetera, et cetera. He looks the part. He's a realist. They've tried to stop him for 10 years. They're going to try to stop him again. They're going to fail. But it doesn't mean that this doesn't matter. Number two, Austin Dahmer, the former national security adviser for Senator Josh Hawley. As you mentioned, they're trying to stop his nomination. Again, this is the kind of stuff, this stuff is literally behind paywalls. This is the kind of stuff that's not in the public. They're going to try to kill it in the crib without public scrutiny. And it's unacceptable. And it's why our foreign policy can't change. This stuff matters.

[Steve Bannon]

Kurt Mills, Fantastic. Social media, where they go, sir?

[Kurt Mills]

Urtmillsurtmils. The website is www.theamericanconservative.com magazine, founded by Patrick Buchanan and friends in 2002 against the Iraq war.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow, you're amazing. Always on point. Good luck in your trip, sir. Appreciate you, Joe Allen, your guidance today. You're going to join us. You're going down to Texas for the weekend, a huge event with you. You're going to be there tomorrow, get you on the show. But for tonight, what should people do?

[Joe Allen]

I think they should go immediately to my social media or grace or war rooms social media. There is a list of congressmen to contact. Tell them do not support or vote for an AI moratorium in the ndaa. It's very low effort to have it not introduced at all. And so if your congressmen are coming out against it, speaking out against it, showing some backbone, then problem solved. For now, contact your Congressman billblasterapp.org or at Bill Blaster app. And then November 23rd, this Sunday I'll be at Angelica Film center in Dallas, 5pm down in Ted Cruz's home state. If Ted Cruz would like to stop by and explain to everyone there and the American public more broadly.

[Mike Lindell]

Perfect.

[Joe Allen]

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[Mike Lindell]

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[Joe Allen]

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Bring it, Ted.

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[Joe Allen]

Thank you, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, brother, great job. Okay, to the ramparts, folks. To the ramparts.

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