Real America’s Voice: THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

Episode #4953 | November 25, 2025

Overview

In this episode, Stephen K. Bannon leads a packed hour diving into the latest controversies at the intersection of politics, civil-military relations, and technology. The show pivots around current investigations into lawmakers’ calls for military personnel to resist illegal orders, legal maneuvers targeting Trump administration officials, new executive actions involving AI, and the historical resonance of religious militancy as described by special guest authors. As always, the tone is combative, urgent, and deeply skeptical of mainstream institutions, with an undercurrent of populist, nationalist sentiment.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Controversy Over Lawmakers Urging Military to Refuse Illegal Orders

[06:50–22:00]

• Recent video features six Democratic lawmakers, including Senator Alyssa Slotkin and Senator Mark Kelly, encouraging military personnel to refuse illegal orders.

• Trump responded aggressively, decrying their actions as "punishable by death" and “seditious."

• FBI and Pentagon have reportedly begun investigations/interviews with these lawmakers.

• Concerns raised about the violation of civil-military relations and whether these messages undermine chain of command and military loyalty.

  Key Quotes:

  • “What these six have done is not just to sow discord…but they’re undermining objective civilian control — the heart of the most successful civil-military relationship that’s existed in history.”
    —Dr. Bradley Thayer [11:25]
  • “This is a deep crisis. This is why this has to be dealt with immediately.”
    —Steve Bannon [13:10]
  • “If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.”
    —Steve Bannon [07:51]

2. The Bostberg Contempt Proceedings Against Trump Officials

[22:00–36:00]

• Julie Kelly details ongoing legal battles:

  • Judge Jeb Bostberg considering criminal contempt against Trump-era DOJ and officials over enforcement related to the Alien Enemies Act.
  • The ACLU demanding testimony from DOJ and DHS officials, focusing on whistleblower claims.
  • Concern expressed that proceedings are being used to tarnish potential future Supreme Court nominee Emil Bovey.
  • Julie Kelly notes Bostberg’s unprecedented secrecy, including 19 gag orders related to congressional subpoenas.

  Key Quotes:

  • “Jeb Bostberg is actually ramping up and accelerating. He’s doubling down against the Trump administration.”
    —Julie Kelly [32:15]
  • “This is another attempt to drag [Emil Bovey's] name through the mud as he’s sitting on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.”
    —Julie Kelly [35:15]
  • “Bossberg has to be impeached.”
    —Steve Bannon [32:50]

3. Strategy to “Rescue” Tina Peters & “Lawfare” Against Democrats

[36:00–43:30]

• Ivan Raiklin, collaborating with General Michael Flynn, proposes aggressive legal action to charge Democratic officials (in this context, Colorado’s Sec. of State Jenna Griswold) over 2020 election activities.

• Suggests swift action by DOJ could justify a federal raid and highlights a new White House official dedicated to election integrity.

• Asserts Tina Peters (former Mesa County Clerk) is a key witness and victim of political persecution.

• Emphasizes the need for "maniacal focus" and political courage from Republican legal officials.

  Key Quotes:

  • “They don’t ask a court to…allow us to conduct treason. No, they actually just conduct it, and then we have to claw our way back to stop them.”
    —Ivan Raiklin [38:25]
  • “There’s no one better positioned to expose the evidence of the 2020 electoral heist…than Kurt Olson.”
    —Ivan Raiklin [41:50]

4. Artificial Intelligence: The Genesis Mission

[49:30–58:45]

• New executive order launches the "Genesis Mission," pooling Department of Energy national lab resources with private AI efforts.

• Joe Allen frames the initiative as a potential “Manhattan Project” for AI, aiming at rapid advancement in biotech, materials, semiconductors, quantum computing, and nuclear tech.

• Bannon voices concerns about national security, competition with China, and lack of public benefit or equity for Americans.

• Joe Allen echoes that the public should benefit: “50% ownership” for U.S. citizens is proposed.

  Key Quotes:

  • “Genesis mission will transform how science is done in America, uniting our brightest minds, most powerful computers and vast scientific data into one living system for discovery.”
    —Genesis Mission Promo/Officials [52:18]
  • “We’re going to have AI agents that can run autonomously to conduct experiments... This is right now very much in the nascent phase.”
    —Joe Allen [54:13]
  • “What’s the payment to the American people? American citizens own how much equity? The opening bid is 50%.”
    —Steve Bannon [56:48]

5. Church Militancy, Christian History, and the Muslim Brotherhood

[59:00–67:30]

• Historian Raymond Ibrahim discusses the significance of militant Christianity throughout history, coinciding with U.S. moves to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization.

• His latest book, The Two Swords of Christ, analyzes how Christian monks reconciled physical militancy with spiritual service.

• Bannon argues that modern Christians should learn from history; past survival required not only piety but readiness to fight.

  Key Quotes:

  • “Without the church militants, Christianity would have died out a long time ago.”
    —Raymond Ibrahim [61:40]
  • “[Medieval] monks… had no problem wedding Christian theology with militancy.”
    —Raymond Ibrahim [63:16]
  • "Now we have this kind of mood where, oh, you can't do anything, you have to be a doormat and so forth."
    —Raymond Ibrahim [65:22]

6. Populist Sponsorship Tie-Ins (Briefly)

** [Interspersed - Not separately timestamped, but embedded in discussion]**

• Recurring mention of alternate news sources (Getter, Blaze Media, Substack), survivalist sponsors, and “Black Friday” deals—framed as part of a self-reliant, counter-establishment mindset.

Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On Civil-Military Relations:
  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people.”
  —Steve Bannon [08:53]

• On DOJ Proceedings:
  “As his corruption and his malfeasance continues to get exposed, he is not backing off. He is actually ramping up and accelerating.”
  —Julie Kelly [32:15]

• On AI and American Ownership:
  “The American people love it. They want to own 50 percent of it because they deserve it. They’re putting up the money.”
  —Steve Bannon [57:15]

• On Historic Christian Militancy:
  “If the Europeans, the Christians of Europe had not fought back…Christianity would have been snuffed out.”
  —Raymond Ibrahim (paraphrasing Teddy Roosevelt) [62:20]

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Controversy over Lawmakers & Military Orders: [06:50–22:00]
• Bostberg Contempt Proceedings/Trump Legal Fights: [22:00–36:00]
• Tina Peters, Flynn, Lawfare Discussion: [36:00–43:30]
• Deep Dive: Genesis Mission AI Executive Order: [49:30–58:45]
• Christian Militancy History ft. Raymond Ibrahim: [59:00–67:30]

Final Thoughts

This episode closely intertwines contemporary political battles with broader historical and philosophical arguments—casting present-day opponents as part of a centuries-old war over national destiny, sovereignty, and religious identity. The mood is urgent, confrontational, and deeply distrustful of "the regime," whether in the legal system, national security apparatus, or the evolving technological state. Suggesting direct actions (impeachments, legal charges, equity demands), Bannon and guests call for a revival of militant, uncompromising engagement—whether in the courts, the labs, or the culture at large.

For more, follow:

• Bradley Thayer: X (Twitter) @BradThayerX, Getter, Truth Social
• Julie Kelly: Substack ‘Declassified with Julie Kelly,’ X @Julie_Kelly2
• Ivan Raiklin: X and Substack
• Joe Allen: X @Oebot_XYZ, Frontier Magazine article
• Raymond Ibrahim: raymondibrahim.com, "The Two Swords of Christ" (Amazon, other retailers)
• War Room: Getter @Bannon, RAV Podcast, Substack

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