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This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big L? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Febru. It is Friday, Friday the 6th of February, in the year of our Lord 2026. There is a method to my madness this morning on the show because I wanted to talk. We have all this conversation about civil war and the path to civil war. We've had the clip from Ben Harnwell's amazing interview with Dr. Betts at King's College, where he's the tenured professor of modern warfare and I think considered one of the leading experts on modern warfare in the broad context of what that means, because modern warfare is not simply kinetic, it is also unrestricted warfare, as we've taught you over the last five or six years on the show, we start with, but it's about also about institutions. This is why we started today with James Rosen, the chief Washington correspondent for Newsmax, in his the second volume of his magisterial biography of one of the greatest Americans, not simply of modern times, but I think of all time, and that is Associate Justice Scalia. The second volume is the Supreme Court Years. If the first volume is the rise to greatness, it takes all the way through Scalia's life, his confirmation hearing. The second volume you pick up the first day he joined the Supreme Court and goes all the way through the 2000 election, the contested election there in Bush v. Gore, in the decisions of the Supreme Court. I can't recommend a book highly. More highly. And also for young people in your life. This is like the Buckley book, Sam Tanenhaus's book, which we sent to what, I don't know, the second, third, fourth printing. This audience and the feedback I've gotten is fantastic. James Rosen is the same type of writer. These are books almost read like novels, and you just want to turn the page to do that. But it was about the institution and how fundamental Associate Justice Scalia was in changing the institution of the Supreme Court, particularly about originalism and about textualism. And that's why you're going to learn a lot and you'll understand the presence. I'm very proud that I sat on the five man selection committee as the only non lawyer for the selection of Gorsuch to replace Justice Scalia after he passed away. Of course, you can't replace people like Scalia, you can't replace people like Associate Justice Thomas, just like he can't replace Charlie Kirk and he can't replace Andrew Breitbart. There's some people that come along, they're just unique and totally unique individuals and can't be replaced. But you will learn a lot. Dr. Thayer and Taj Gill are going to return here momentarily. We're going to talk about the peace in the Federals today from our own Dr. Bradley Thayer. That is quite extraordinary about this potential civil war in the West. Of course, Dr. Betts at King's College says not only is it coming, but the election of Nigel Farage as reform. Remember what Nigel has done is extraordinary. He's taken a party basically he created and now as I think 2x what the Tories are and the Tories have been around for 250 years, longer maybe, I think 50 years. So it's extraordinary. He says that will only slow it down. But the path in the United Kingdom is set. When we talk about institutions, one of the ones we talk about so much is global capital, the global capital markets, finance. The great Oren Cass, I guess it's coming out, it's online now. It's coming out on Sunday in the New York Times. You eviscerate the Wall street, the lords of easy money and you just say right in the headline, it's a grift and they ought to be treated like grifters. One, how did the New York Times publish this? And number two, walk us through the piece.
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Well, I, I should say actually it has been a long time in coming, but the, the Times editor I work with was, was great and actually really encouraged focusing on this point that, you know, there's so much discussion about bad actors on Wall street, right, like oh, these looters or you know, this fraud and so forth. And, and I think there's a much broader, more important point which is that it's not the edge case, it's not the lawbreaker, it's, it's the entire exercise. It is the, the fundamentals of, you know, what we have in private Equity, what we have in hedge funds, what we have now in what's called private credit. It's just all this stuff that has been layered atop the actual legitimate purposes of financial markets that doesn't create any value and yet ends up with tremendous wealth. And if you're not creating any value and you end up with tremendous wealth, it's safe to assume that means you just took that money from somewhere else. And I think that is one of the fundamental problems we have in our economy today, is one of the best ways to make money where we're sending a lot of our best talent people who could be starting great businesses, creating good jobs. Instead they're going to trade money around in circles and somehow we sort of, not only do we tolerate it, in a lot of cases, we celebrate it and take it seriously as a sign that something useful must be going on.
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Look, the reason, one of the principal reasons President Trump won on 8 November of 2016 or early in the morning he was declared the winner of November 9th is the Fuse that was lit off by the financial crash in 2008. Now, because of the efforts to bail out the system, they consolidated wealth empowerment. Obama, the most progressive president in history, supposedly had a knee jerk reaction with Tim Geithner. People around him guiding him because he was basically a constitutional law professor, didn't really understand capital markets, but they came up with policies, as has been shown in the great book Lords of Easy Money that essentially bailed out the system and bailed out the wealthy with the greatest concentration of wealth in mankind's history. However, there were supposed to be reforms made. So are you saying today that we're now in, you know, what, 17, 18 years later, we're in a situation that because capitalism should be the fundamental part of capitalism should be free and fair and accessible capital markets. Are you saying we don't actually have a capitalist system? This is more corporatist than we even scream about here in war room. Or is it at the basis we do have capitalism with just a lot of grift on top or is the whole system rotten to its core?
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I think it's more that we have capitalism with a lot of grift on top. You know one, one thing I try to emphasize in the piece and one of the, you know, they find the title that, that will get the most people to click on it. The, the working title was Saving Capitalism from the capitalists because I think the, the basic system of capitalism is still a good way, the best way anyone knows to structure an economy. And for that matter. You know, healthy financial markets are a really important thing. We need to have markets that allow savers to consolidate their sa, deploy that capital to productive uses. The problem is that that's not what financial markets do today. In fact, even as financial markets, as the financial sector has grown to be an ever larger part of the economy, more of gdp, more of profits, you know, attracting more of the top talent, generating more of the richest people, there has been no correlating increase in investment. To the contrary, the actual real investment that we get in the economy keeps declining. And so I think, whereas there's been this idea certainly promoted by the folks on Wall street, promoted by a lot of the folks you were describing in the Obama world, certainly in the Bush world also, certainly a lot of people in the Trump world. There's this idea that, well, if, you know, if the financial sector is doing incredibly well, that must somehow mean the economy is doing well, right? Well, look how high the stock market went up. That must mean we're doing well. Those things have just become entirely disconnected. And so the question is, can we essentially put the financial sector back in its place? Say we want to have a healthy financial sector, but that's defined by whether you're actually doing your frankly pretty boring job of consolidating capital, deploying capital well, so that the real action is happening in the real economy where it can actually benefit the typical family.
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How do we make these? Because I argue we have a capitalist system with almost no capitalists, because 80% or 90% of the American people really don't have access to it, don't participate in it, and 50% of the country is abject, been here for generations and have no access to this. Do you think you're slipping into what Lyndon LaRouche used to talk about all the time, about productivity and he's got to be focused on manufacturing and you got to get away from this. I mean, he was mad as a hatter, but some of the things he had to say were quite profound. Do you think it's those types of reforms that have to take place?
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Well, I think it's important to say this is also the stuff that Adam Smith was talking about and Abraham Lincoln was talking about and that most of our great economists, most of our great political leaders, until quite recently, all recognized, for that matter, many of our great popes have, have recognized this. It has always been understood that, that an out of control financial sector is a concern is something that you're going to get if you don't pay attention to it. And, and is going to be a plague on the real useful kind of capitalism. And so I think, you know, one thing we're starting to get a lot better.
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Hang on. So let's, I want to make sure we name this as a construct for people. So you're, you're, we're dancing around. It's the American system. It's what Hamilton and I say along with the Declaration of Independence, something that doesn't get as much play, that almost should is Hamilton's report on manufacturers. And you had, you know, Andrew Jackson was part of that. Lincoln as a Whig. This whole party stood for this, the American system. And I kind of say this is what Lyndon LaRouche's people also talk about. Talk to me about the American system. Why is the alternative quite different than late stage finance capitalism that we find ourselves in this kind of cul de sac?
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Yeah, the, the American system, as you, as you just said exactly right, is, is what built America into the greatest country and economy in the world. That, that led to the, you know, unbelievable prosperity of the middle class. It was obviously a capitalist system. It was a free market system, but it was one that recognized that not anything you do that generates a profit is equally valuable. And also that you, you really do actually need a role for government. That you need to make sure that domestic industry is strong in competition against other countries. You need to certainly invest a lot in things like, you know, infrastructure. I mean, whether it was railroads and canals back in the day or, you know, electrification, all of these things were massive public projects. And you need a financial system that is specifically structured and regulated in the public interest to make sure that what is happening in financial markets doesn't become an end unto itself. Right. You're not trading for the sake of trading, but that it is actually fulfilling its function of helping things to happen in the real world. And that is the tradition that the US followed all the way through the middle of the 20th century. It's only in the last few decades that we gave in to this idea that no, no, no markets in and of themselves, whatever they do, is always going to be the most efficient and productive thing. And if we just get out of the way and let the people on Wall street cook, as the kids would say, that will generate the most prosperity for every. And it's just not true. There's nothing in economic theory that would say it's true. There's nothing in, in human history that would say it's true. And I think we've really paid the price for going along with that. Instead of being willing to say, you know, as I say in the piece, the people on Wall street have no clothes. They're, they're parading around naked. A lot of what they do is ridiculous. It's clearly not valuable. And you know, we need the right regulation, but we also need a culture that's, that's willing to say that and that we deserve better.
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How do you, if you got a meeting and we had you over for a cup of coffee with, with Scott Besant, Secretary treasury, before you guys went to the White House, we got a minute here on this side and, and I tell you what, hang on. I want you just hang on for a second because I want to get to the, the recommendations here because when you talk about civil war in the civil, in the Civil War in the middle of the 19th century, these were some of the issues that were underlying because remember the plantation aristocracy called the Tidewater plantation aristocracy, particularly around places like Charleston. Remember at the time when the Civil War started, I think there were more what would be associated today as billionaires per capita in Charleston than any place on earth. They believed that the investment was in human capital. That was slavery. It was about. They thought humans owning humans was a capital asset. And one of the big differences in Abraham Lincoln and what they, their idea was that you had to build canals and railroads and you need, you needed some sort of either government regulation to do that or maybe even potential financing or helping with financing. And that was one of the big rifts of the. They were high tariffs in the north and of course no tariffs. Some sort of partnership with the British in the, in the south. What became the Federson. Oren Cass has a brilliant piece in this weekend's New York Times. Want everybody to get access to it. He's gonna on the other side, he's gonna give us some recommendations to the President next. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, gold's back up. Not the daily price. It's the process. Take your phone out, text. It's an easy way to do it. Get access to the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals. There's no obligation. Totally free. And get to talk to Philip Patrick and the team over at Birchgold Bannon. B A N N O N 989-898. Do that today. Make sure you make that a weekend thought experiment. How about that? Also 90%, 89% of your home of your net worth is tied up in your home if you're lucky enough to own one. And remember the average age of a first time homebuyer in this country is 40 years old. President Trump Scott Besson working on many programs to make sure that that doesn't that we get that down to. Let's have something with the two in front of it, maybe 25. How's that sound? Hometidelock.com promo code Steve, you get 14 day free trial on access to the $1 million triple lock protection with AI, with Cyber, with rogue lawyers, rogue accountants, rogue family members. You cannot trust anybody when it comes to that home title. You just can't. You got to make sure it's just you and your title. The way to do that is hometitlelock.com hometitlelock.com promo code Steve, make sure you go today and talk to Natalie Dominguez the team about the $1 million triple lock protection. Oren Cass I think best normally we put people in the Oval Office. I think this one you go to treasury and you talk to Besant. Besant comes out, he's a hedge fund guy, been a very safe pair of hands. At one time they were talking about he was going to be wear two hats, maybe Federal Reserve chair and treasury if they could work it out. Looks like they couldn't. So Kevin Warsh is going to take that spot. A big fan of Kevin's known him a long time. Talk to me, the two or three things you and Scott Besant are going to talk about when you're there to make sure that we get this to be a truly capitalist system with every American a capitalist. What are you going to talk about?
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Well, in the context of these issues in the financial markets, I think number one is we're going to just crack down on the stuff that is not useful. So instead of taxing people who actually build businesses that are successful, we're going to put the tax on transactions. So if you're just trading all day in the market, we'd much rather tax that than somebody who's building a business. I think number two is information like so much of this is done in ways where there's just no way to even track, okay, how are these things performing? Is anything useful being done or not? We need to have much better disclosure on, on how these firms are performing, who's making the money, who's collecting the fees. And then number three, we got to stay focused on on the other side. We got to stay focused on making it more attractive to do productive things. And we're starting to see that in chip ships, in critical minerals. I think that's a place where the Trump administration has been making Huge strides and we have to keep pushing on that. Every person who goes and builds a real business, builds things in this country, is helping us all. Every person who goes to Wall street and starts a hedge fund is not.
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There's many hedge funds I think as McDonald franchises. If somebody told me anyway, that'd be a great conversation. That'd be a quite interesting conversation with Scott Bessem. We talk about, I think we got a tax transactions brother. You're getting to the core of the problem. All of a sudden they're to have those big, those big castles out in the Hamptons. Orin Cass, you are a troublemaker, sir. But you come with a high powered brain. So we love having you on. Where, where do people get you?
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My organization is American Compass. We publish a great magazine called commonplace@commonplace.org. definitely subscribe to that in your inbox a few times a week. And I am on Twitter or X as they call it now. Orencast.
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Well, I'd love to have you back on. I want to see the thing published. Got to get my print edition of the Times this Sunday to see this and then and then have you back on next week. Thank you. Or I appreciate it.
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Thank you.
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Fantastic.
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Wow.
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We're going to tax transactions. Hello. It's cutting to the chase. Talk about this. Dr. Thayer. Well, first off, do I have Taj up is I have Tasgo with me. Taj Gill, the coming civil war. Dr. Betts talked about it. It's coming in the United Kingdom. You see, it's happening in Paris. I've said this for a couple of years now. You're not going to veer off of this in the United States. This is one of the reasons we're in Texas, one of the reasons we're focused on prohibiting and banning Sharia law in the great state of Texas. Your thoughts about how do we divert Taj because you're a man of peace. Spent your, I don't know, 20 years being a man of war. But you're a man of peace now with a great coffee company. How do we avert civil war, sir?
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We need to get the people out that hate America and they're being funded by guys like George Soros, Alex Soros. I read Bradley Thayer's article. A lot of this stuff comes out of England, the European Union, but let's not forget the radical Islam in the Middle east. And then we got China pushing it from their side. So we have the communists, we have the Muslims, and then we have these left wing radicals in the European Union pushing their Ideology on America and this, you know, 20 million illegal immigrants, that's disputable. 10 to 20 million somewhere in there. And these people, they do not assimilate in America. They, they start up their own cultures, they start up no go zones. They don't like Americans, they don't like America. They're sending money back to their own country.
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And you're, how many tours did you.
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I like to say re Immigration theory. Yeah, no, this, I'd love the RE Immigration office. And then, yeah, the volume on the deportion and deporting these people, it slowed down. It started out with a bang last year, but the deportations have actually slowed down. We need to turn up the volume on the deportation, start the RE Immigration office and get these people out of our country. You know, when immigrants used to come here to America, they used to go to a two year, three year program and they actually would assimilate, they'd learn all about our culture, they learn about the history of America. And a lot of these people, most of these people actually loved America and they were proud Americans, the immigrants. And they don't do that anymore.
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You spend how many tour again, remind me, how many tours in defense of your country did you spend over in Islamic nation, sir?
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16 times in Iraq and Afghanistan from 2001-20.
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Did you see anything, did you see anything in those cultures and societies you thought would be, would be appropriate for like, say a culture like the great state of Texas, sir?
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No, Steve, no. If you spend time in, you know, you go places like Iraq, it's. You have the Sunnis, the Shias, Shiites and the Kurds and there's a civil war there. And you know, it's, everybody's against everybody there. Everybody's killing each other. Saddam Hussein ruled that place with an iron fist. And as soon as he's gone, it was complete chaos. And then Afghanistan, like I've told you before, they're, we used to call them stone stackers with machine guns. They're a primitive culture. They live out in the middle of nowhere, most of these places. And then in the city, in Kabul, the capital, there's car bombs daily, there's people being killed. And now that the Taliban's back in power. So we spent 20 years in Afghanistan to push the Taliban and Al Qaeda out. And guess what? The Taliban and Al Qaeda are back in power after 20 years. But through failed leadership of Barack Obama and Joe Biden, nothing changed there. They're actually more powerful now. We left $85 billion in America hardware in Afghanistan and pulled out like a disgrace to our country. So, no, there's nothing in these countries that we need to bring to the United States. There's nothing. There's nothing we can take from Afghanistan, not their farming, not their culture, nothing. Yeah, maybe one thing we can take some guerrilla warfare tactics from, but that's about it.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer, I want everybody read this essay. It's very well thought through as people saying, hey, this civil war can't be reversed. You say, no, it can be, but we gotta win it. Walk me through your other points.
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Absolutely, Steve. So the cause of this is well understood. It's Bolshevik ideology in a neo Bolshevik form, which is the ideology of the European elite, the Canadian elite, and in Australia as well, as well as among the Democrats in the US the Trump administration has warned the EU. The Warsaw speech In July of 2017, the National Security Strategy, which came out in December of this year, excuse me, of 2025, and then the Davos speech that President Trump gave in January, all warned the European Union that they don't get to destroy Western civilization. Right. That Western civilization also belongs to the United States. It belongs to Americans, and we get a veto. What did the EU do? They gave President Trump the middle finger on Tuesday, July 27, 2026, right. In Spain, they granted over 500,000 residency permits. And in India, Ursula von der Leyden opened up the migration agreement, which is going to allow tens of millions of Indians to enter the European Union. The EU has been warned. So now President Trump has got to solve this problem to save Western civilization. First, increase the costs to the European Union. Peter Navarro's a magician. He's got his bag of tariffs. Let's start employing them against the European Union. Secondly, because they'll probably absorb the costs of the tariff. Right. Their ideology and their determination to destroy the west is very strong. Britain is part of the five eyes. Intelligence cooperation. We can restrict intelligence cooperation. It's not done lightly. But they've really got to feel the pain because these agreements are coming into effect now. The EU agreement will come in in 2027. So by the time President Trump leaves office, you could have many more tens of millions of Indians living in the European Union. And of course, Spain, 500,000 is taking place almost immediately. And there's always essentially family unification. So 500,000 really means 4 million plus when we're talking about that. So restrict intelligence for the U.K. thirdly, military cooperation. Again, not done lightly. European, have we fought wars together? We have a long history together. But that's really going to get their attention which is what we need to do. This cannot go on. Western civilization is in the balance. Fourth, Brexit. Right. Let's have multiple Brexits. Right. Ireland perhaps should think about exiting the European Union, and there may be elements or points where the US could assist in that regard, as well as developing new trade zones. Right. So that the Irish population doesn't incur a cost, economic cost, from that. And lastly, office of remigration. Let's strategize, let's coordinate and let's develop policies.
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Hang on. I want to come back. I love that office idea. We're going to drill down more. Taj Gill, Dr. Bradley Thayer, Andrew Colvette and Charlie Kirkshaw is going to join us also. We're going to bring the truckers in.
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Andrew Colvett, the co host of the Charlie Kirk show, joins me. I can't get out of my mind what you told me 12 years ago. And this says more about Charlie Kirk. This every young person that says, I want to be Charlie Kirk. I want to help Charlie Kirk. I want to assist Andrew. Brought up yesterday, 12 years ago, Charlie Kirk put out a tweet about this very topic. I think this is when Jackson's sister had the problem with her garb. Whether it was intentional or not, I guess is still controversial. Charlie put out a tweet. It had one like, this is the lesson of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was a grinder. When he put his mind to something, he made it great. It didn't always start great. It started small, tiny, the little seed. One like, one like. And look, this Sunday is the culmination of what Charlie always envisioned before he was assassinated. This is the lesson of the man. As nice as he was, as gentlemanly as he was. I tell people Charlie Kirk was one of the hardest Toughest people I ever met in my entire life. This was a hard, tough guy. And he could keep his gentlemanly demeanor and listen to people and very politely argue with him, which is a superpower in and of itself. But the hard steel at the core, Andrew Colvett was the one like. And 12 years later, through relentless work, it's finally coming to fruition. Your thoughts, sir?
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Yeah, actually, I found1 from 14 years ago, actually, as well, where he said, I never knew singing could be this bad. Hashtag halftime, hashtag Madonna is a joke. And that's from February 5, 2012. And I don't have how many likes on that because our team cut it off for our graphics. But the 2014 one, like, clothing optional halftime performance. Question mark. In February 2nd, 2014. And, you know, Charlie sent us, you know, sent the team images in our group chats, and one day he sent a stadium picture of a stadium and said, this is my vision years and years ago. And that's what he wanted for our big conventions, our big conferences. And it's because he believed that he was a missionary to culture. He went into the parts of culture that didn't want him, but that needed him the most, Steve. And that's why he was in college campuses. That's why Turning Point is on college campuses. That's why we're on high school campuses, because that's where they need us. And, you know, when it became really apparent to us that the professional sports league, we'll just leave it vague, want to honor the forgotten men and women, the people that built this country with the halftime performance, we knew that there was a need in the marketplace. We needed to meet it, we needed to step into it. And we knew that that's exactly what Charlie wanted for Turning Point to be and to be this juggernaut that could do this sort of thing. Yeah, it's still a David and Goliath story. I mean, we're going up against the biggest thing there is, but we have a lot of momentum behind us and a lot of people rallying behind the cause. And so here's my message to you and to your audience. Just flip the channel. Flip the channel. When the action's done, just flip the channel and check out the All American halftime show. Because, Steve, we win this in two ways. We put on a great show that people enjoy. That's high production value. That's excellent. Which it is. I've seen the rehearsal video from this. It is phenomenal. Steve, in your face. You're in the action. High octane songs. You know songs you can sing along with. And they're paying tribute to this country, to their faith, to just, you know, great all American music. And we win it that way. We also win it if people switch the channel for the other guy, for the guy that sings in Spanish and you come over and you sing along with us in English because listen, that's the language we speak in this country. So it's an exciting moment. But help us and help your family. But here's the best part, Steve. It's truly excellent. This is not jv. This is not bush league. This is not subpar. This is going to be amazing. Amazing. Made for TV concert experience.
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Andrew, one more time. Where do people go? I know Rav where I started seven. But the show is made to actually happen exactly during the halftime. We're trying to get ahead of it because I think it's gonna be 8 or 8:30. So RAV is 7. But I want to make sure everybody. RAV. We're very happy. One of the sponsors for you guys to do this. We love Charlie. You're on our channel, our network. But it's everywh and this is important. It's everywhere. Where do people go, Andrew, to get to experience this?
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Yeah, yeah. To your point, Rob and Parker Sig were behind us from the jump. They wanted to know how they could help. So real America's Voice, if you are watching this show right now, you know how to find Steve. If you know how to find Steve, you know how to find the Charlie Kirk show, you know how to find the all American halftime show. So that's first thing. Secondly, it's gonna be all over social media. Just go on x, go on YouTube, go on rumble. It will be there, it will be promoted. It'll be up at the top. All right, so TPUSA, YouTub, TPUSA, x TPOSA Rumble. Now for those that are technologically challenged, get somebody at your, your, your watch party that's younger than you, throw it up on, on the screen. You can. Most TVs have like a YouTube app. You can have a Rumble app and you can just flip it over, make a plan, make sure you know how to get straight over to it. Because as soon as the action stops on the field, you're going to want to be tuning over for us or watch real America's Voice pre show as well. So in addition to that, you're going to have Sinclair broadcasting is going to be syndicated now on The Charge channel, Samsung Plus, YouTube TV, Hulu Sling, all those things. Just like real America's voice is daily wire plus TBN. TBN. If you is online, I think like 70 million homes. So you can switch over on the channel to traditional cable if you want to watch it on tbn. Real America's Voice, NTD and oan those are the places that was our coalition of the willingness that stepped up early and I believe they're all gonna be rewarded for it cuz the energy behind this thing is just tremendous. I mean President Trump is being asked about it, Caroline Levitt's being asked about it. All the shows are interviewing us about it cuz they want to hear more and more and more. So a lot of great storylines here and you're not going to want to miss it because I'm telling you, I have seen the rehearsal footage, folks. It's epic.
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Andrew, you and the team over Turning Point have done Charlie proud on this. Really, he would be so excited about this. So I want to thank and thank everybody over that. I know the team's putting a tremendous amount of effort and all the artists putting in their time and effort too, their managers, all of it. One more time. Where do people go?
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TPUSA YouTube, TPUSA x TPUSA Rumble, Daily Wire plus TBN, which is on traditional cable in a lot of households. So if that's the easiest, do that Real America's Voice. Robin Parker, Sig legends, absolute heroes here stepped up early. Ntd, which is part of Epoch Times. Ntd. And then oan all the good guys.
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Talk about their heroes. They stepped up with a show, the Charlie Kerr show with you as co host early at the very first days. Yes, they are heroes. They will take a risk. They will take a risk. Andrew Colvett. They did always great, always great having you following us. The great The Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Corvette, the co host brother. Go ready and get, get ready for a great show. We're going to make sure everybody goes there on Sunday.
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Thank you, sir. Thank you, Steve.
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Thank you, brother.
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So Rev is going to be, Rev is going to come up at 7pm Eastern Standard Time with kind of a pre game to the halftime show. So if you want to, if you get bored with the game, if, if you're a Patriots fan, they're not doing well or if you're a Seahawks fan, they're not doing well. You're just bored with it. Some of these Super Bowls are quite boring. I'm not a Super bowl fan, a football fan, but not a Super bowl fan. Never have been. Turnover early. The real America's Voice right here. I want to Go to Taj Gill. Taj, you have a very strong message for the American people that sharia law is not compatible. You've spent the better part of your formative years fighting for your country over there because you knew your country needed to be defended. And all the policy mistakes and all the policy debacles that put your generation at risk is got to be set aside when you look at the valor and courage. But you decided in that time, coming back, I just don't want to be in the security business. I'm a man of peace. And what I want to do is start a great coffee company. You have. Where do people go to get the coffee that you and I agree is a lot better than the Navy brew that you get on the midwatch? So where do they go, sir?
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Yeah, you go to Warpath Coffee and then use promo code war room. I think right now it's at a 15 discount. But Warpath coffee, promo code war room. And the promo code war Room, it fluctuates. Sometimes it's up to 20, like Black Friday, it'll be like 25%. But always use promo code war Room. If you're part of the war room posse, you know, we. We've got almost 17,000 five star reviews on the website right now. And we just dropped hot chocolate a couple days ago. So if you're a hot chocolate fan, try the hot chocolate. It's German strudel hot chocolate. And we bought every hot chocolate out there. And then we tested multiple different blends. It's got real hot chocolate in it. And we used our kids to pick the hot chocolate. So this is kid approved hot chocolate. So that's a big thing, hot chocolate. And like a couple weeks ago, we dropped the decaf K cups because decaf is so popular, which I didn't, I never knew until last month. But we got hot chocolate and decaf up on the site now, and we've got all the different flavors. We've got, you know, the Italian frogman espresso. We've got breakfast blend. We've got dark roast. We've got vanilla chocolate. All the different. We got everything. So just go on there. Warpath coffee, promo code war room. And it is the best coffee out there, the way we roast it. We roast it on a perforated drum so we don't burn the beans at all. And that's why it's so smooth. You can drink a straight black. You don't need milk and sugar.
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Don't take it from Tasia and myself. Take it. Just go and read the 17,005 I start reviews folks just like yourself that came to a lot of people who've never been coffee drinkers and excited. Just read them, you'll see. I also want to know as on the selection committee for different brews, I adamantly oppose the decaf. And of course naturally it's one of our number one sellers now. So that's on the marketplace. People are saying no, we want Warpath coffee and want a decaf anyway. It's great Taj. You guys are always coming up with fantastic products. Thank you sir for being on here. Appreciate it.
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Thank you Steve. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
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Warpath Coffee 17,000 five star reviews. Dr. Thayer, the Office of Remigration. Give me 60 seconds on that and then where can I go get all your writings? You're working on a Magnum opus on 100 year war against communism that we're going to come out with by Hooker Crook sometime this spring or early summer. Where do people go to get all your writings after you tell me about the your new position as the Office of Remigration.
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Well, Steve, the Office of Remigration's ordering principle is going to be that the era of mass immigration is over. Mass immigration, illegal or legal, is over and we're entering a new era which is the era of remigration. So illegal immigration is over forever and legal immigration is going to go from the aperture of a storm drain to the aperture of a straw. And what this office needs to do is focus on the following missions. It's going to have to develop strategies that can be shared with other states with Australia, Canada, uk, European Union states. They might not be there yet, but we need to give them the strategies. Secondly, there's going to have to be the coordination and policy development for remigration strategies. Coordination works with other states.
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We got to bounce you. If the president asked you, would you take the office here if we set it up in the U.S. would you, would you step into it?
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I'm happy to advise but Rosemary is awesome and so is, you know, Todd Bensman. Lots of folks have been been neglected for too long.
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Steve, give me your social media. Where do people go to get you?
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Brad Tharrett X and Bradley Thier at Getter and Truth. You know, Rosemary or Todd working on.
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A huge book on the 100 year war against communism. Americans were tragically killed and lost their lives this week yet again from an illegal alien, an individual who was paroled into the country by the Biden administration using the CBP1 app which they created like it was a magic Pass for Disney, Disneyland. That's not how immigration in this country should work. And this illegal alien from Kyrgyzstan was traveling on an Indiana highway, and he failed to brake for a slowed semi truck in front of him. He swerved into the lane and he crashed into a van carrying 15 passengers. And four people were killed in that crash. This is another tragedy that could have been prevented if not for the wide open borders from the previous administration. That's why we now have a secure border. That's why this administration will continue to deport illegal aliens from our country. I mean, are you proud of Caroline Levitt? Every day. Remember, she ran in that first primary? I mean, she's become, I think, the best I've ever seen at running these press conferences. All those jackals in there. Of course, there's a lot of good people now, too, but, I mean, she's the best. So, Shannon Everett from American Truckers United. Brother, here's what I don't understand. Help me out. I know the immigration thing is all screwed up, but we've had you on here for almost a year. I thought that. And you guys made a compelling case. You had the great. The audience thought this problem was solved. We understand there's guys all over the place. They've come in from Biden, but I thought we had them off the road. Tell me, whathow did this tragedy happen? And, Shannon, what do we have to do? What does this audience have to do to have your back to stop this?
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Absolutely. Thank you, Steve. You know, I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the War Room Posse and to you, Steve Bannon, because we did accomplish the mission of elevating this message and bringing the message to the attention of the national media and the American people. Because, you know, prior to coming on your show almost a year ago, the American people did not know that they were driving up and down the highways with a bunch of illegal alien truck drivers who weren't properly qualified, weren't properly trained, and hadn't been vetted. You know, we don't even know who these drivers are. And that's because, like in the case of the recent crash that we had just here in Indiana, these guys have snuck across the border, either using the app or some other means of getting into the country. They come into these sanctuary cities, they apply for asylum. And the loophole that has existed has been these asylum requests and these EAD cards. So, historically, the industry did not issue CDLs to illegal aliens who did not have lawful status in the United States. And there was guidance issued in 2019. And so even though we have awareness now to what the problem is, we do not have action on the problem. President Trump issued an executive order that called for the investigation of the non domicile CDL as soon as he heard that there might be a problem. Our Secretary Duffy, who's been doing a great job of bringing awareness and jumping on this issue, conducted that investigation and found that it was absolutely true that the system's broken and that too many of these licenses have been issued and that they've been issued illegally. And he did. The USDOT did issue an interim final ruling that stopped the further issuance of the non domiciled cdls, but it did not revoke the hundreds of thousands of non domiciled CDLs that have been issued improperly, illegally and illicitly.
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Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna come to you right after the show. We're gonna have you on tomorrow morning. I gotta spend. My head's blowing up now. This is. And look at that. Look at not just taking jobs. First off, taking jobs. Number two, driving down wages. Number three, they're causing massive traffic. I said this is not acceptable. It has to be revocation. We have to revoke these and then get them out of the country. This is another HB like an H1B scam. So, Shannon, tell people where they can go right now for American Truckers United. I'm gonna have you back on tomorrow on the Saturday show. We can spend some time because this is outrageous. And look, the White House knows a problem. Caroline's very judicious about what she selects to talk about, right? And right there she's saying another outrage. But we got to take this as ultimate conclusion. They all have to be revoked. Everybody see the hundred thousand and they got to be sent out of the country. And we got to hold accountable for the accidents and the tragedies they put on American people. This is unacceptable. And we got to take action. Shannon, between now and tomorrow, where do people go to get access to everything at American Truckers United?
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Go to our social medias, our tag on all social media accounts, including X is tutruckers. And then Visit our website, www.americantruckers.com. and I just want to point out the executive administration is doing everything to help us. The roadblocks are in the federal agencies and in the legislative pushes.
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I take it just, I take it that there are trucking companies that people know that think are all American actors that are some of these trucking companies are pushing this so they can have cheaper labor as drivers. Am I correct in that assumption?
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It's a battle between Wall street and Main Street. Your Main Street American companies hire American truck drivers. Huge Wall street corporations are brokering freight to illegal aliens. They're contracting it out. They're operating behind willful blindness. Pretend they don't know. Even though this is all over national media, everybody knows who's involved. Everybody knows who they're giving freight to. But they're not willing to put it down because they're profiting. So we need to discuss who the profiteers are. And we need to talk about this Supreme Court case where they plan to give the people who are profiting off all this immunity from these crashes.
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Okay, Shannon, we're going to have you on tomorrow. Talk to you right after the show. Thank you, brother. Shannon Everett, American Truckers United. Unbelievable. I tell you, it's regulatory capture is what we call it. Mike Lindell, you're leading the one real poll out there. You're leading by one point over, I guess, the speaker of the House of the leading Republican in the House in Minnesota, you're in a dogfight. You're gonna be down with our own Glen story down in Mar a Lago this weekend. What are you guys doing down there?
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I'm doing big fundraisers, Steve, and everybody's gotten behind. Even though this is Minnesota race, Minnesota is the tip of the spear for the country. So important everybody and everybody's getting behind it down there in Mar a Lago. I'm doing that. I'm doing four events to raise money for this huge advertising push, marketing push. I'm going to come to win the governorship of Minnesota. You guys can all be a part of that. Mike Lindellgov.com you guys, check it out. Help donate. We're going to be doing this push over the next next month and a half and I'm going to tell you all about it soon. It's Mike Lindale gov.com In the meantime, you guys, I wanted to get on here. I'm just ready to board a plane sale. And you guys, we have the Giza Dream sheets low as 29.98. We're keeping the mattress toppers and mattresses on sale for another day. Here. Free shipping on your entire order. This is a go to war room.com mypillow.com for forward slash war room. There you see these two sales colliding for today. You get the mattresses lowest price in history. We have technology for you, so you get the best sleep of your life. Promo code war room. It's 800-873-the-st sleep of your life. Promo code war room. It's 800-873-1062. My operators are standing by. And they love talking to you guys. The War Room Posse. They love this time of year when you get both sales for free shipping with promo code War Room. Right to your front door, brother.
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Thank you. We'll talk to you this afternoon. And tomorrow you head to Mar A Lago. Glenn's story is going to be they're the Great Glen story. A lot going on down there this weekend. Charlie Kirk show next. Also after that. We're back at 5pm Eastern Standard Time live.
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Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Date: February 6, 2026
Episode: #5124
This episode of War Room dives into major current issues through the lens of American values: the ongoing debate about the state of capitalism in the US, themes of civil unrest and the threat of civil war in Western societies, the consequences of mass immigration, and the efforts to revive traditional American culture and institutions. The host, Stephen K. Bannon, is joined by a mix of writers, policy experts, veterans, and media figures to unpack these themes with a focus on policy recommendations and cultural impact.
Guest: Oren Cass (American Compass), discussing his New York Times piece on financial markets
Timestamps: [04:52]-[13:20]
Timestamps: [17:13]-[18:47]
Guests: Taj Gill (veteran, entrepreneur), Dr. Bradley Thayer (policy analyst)
Timestamps: [20:01]-[26:49]
Guests: Andrew Colvett (co-host of the Charlie Kirk Show)
Timestamps: [28:04]-[35:54]
Guest: Shannon Everett (American Truckers United)
Timestamps: [42:38]-[46:48]
A hard-hitting, multi-guest roundtable on the crisis of late-stage American capitalism, the looming specter of cultural and civil conflict in the West, solutions focused on remigration and traditional economic policy, all bookended by efforts to reclaim American culture and institutions.