THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, FEBRUARY 9, 2026 (EP.#5128)

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, Feb 9, 2026 (Ep. #5128)

Host: Steve Bannon (iHeartPodcasts)
Notable Guests: John Fredericks, Charlie Kirk, Joe Scarborough (clip), Peter Navarro, John Solomon, Andrew Colvette
Date: February 9, 2026

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Overview of the Episode

This episode of “The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon” dives into the aftermath and cultural debate surrounding the Super Bowl halftime show headlined by Bad Bunny, examining the broader implications for American identity, media narratives, and politics. The discussion then transitions to U.S. legislative developments on election security, an exposé on the FBI’s handling of Jan 6 warnings, and the ongoing economic impacts of "Trumponomics," all conveyed in the signature War Room style—confrontational, patriotic, and pointedly anti-establishment.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Highlights

1. Super Bowl Halftime Show – Culture Clash & Political Fallout

• Timestamps: 01:03–11:02
• Debate over Bad Bunny’s historic all-Spanish halftime performance and reactions from media and conservative circles.
• Joe Scarborough (clip) defends the show as a celebration of American diversity, criticizes bigotry, and lauds the NFL’s indifference to MAGA outrage.
• Steve Bannon and guests argue the performance alienates traditional American audiences and reflects the NFL ownership's globalist, anti-populist leanings.
• Charlie Kirk touts the alternative “All American Halftime Show” with 20+ million viewers, highlighting themes of patriotism and faith.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Scarborough: “He is American. In fact, he's more American than dozens of people who perform for the halftime show…” [02:03]
• Steve Bannon: “My problem, Joe, is I just. I don't get offended very easily... But in a way, it was a very American show.” [01:26]
• Andrew Colvette: “They had Green Day. The most anti American band... Then they have at halftime, Bad Bunny. I mean, NFL is the number one league in the world and they do a lot…” [05:11]
• Charlie Kirk: “We are now over 20 million viewers across just social... Americans tuned into the All American halftime show tonight.” [04:15]

Highlights:

• Kirk notes plans to continue the alternative halftime tradition: “We are going to commit to doing this again next year... breaking a little news here, Brian. 20 million at very minimum. I think that number is going to go higher, 40, maybe even 50 in the next 24 hours.” [09:40]

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2. Ratings, Corporate America, and the NFL

• Timestamps: 11:02–16:21
• Dispute over claims that MAGA “lost” against the NFL; John Solomon argues conservative protest suppressed NFL ratings until anthem kneeling stopped.
• Solomon challenges the “inclusiveness” of a show performed in Spanish when “most of the audience doesn’t understand the words.”
• Ongoing theme: mainstream media as propagandists dismissing “real America.”

Notable Quotes:

• John Solomon: “He said the NFL stronger than ever and MAGA tried to take it out and lost. Actually, MAGA drove down its ratings until football players stopped kneeling…” [15:33]
• “If half or three quarters of the audience or even more doesn't understand the words, it's not very inclusive.” [15:47]

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3. Legislative Moves: Voter Security & ICE

• Timestamps: 16:21–23:51
• House moving to codify voter ID and proof-of-citizenship requirements, pressuring moderate Senate Republicans and Democrats.
• Conservatives hold leverage in Homeland Security funding standoff; ICE funding already secured, potentially embarrassing Democrats if other agencies like FEMA shut down.

Notable Quotes:

• John Solomon: “Every conservative group... wants to lobby and put enormous pressure on the Senate to get the job done. But it will get out of the House by all, by all accounts...” [17:15]
• “ICE is fully funded regardless... It’ll make [Democrats] look silly that they're shutting down Homeland Security...they can't shut down ICE now.” [19:12]

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4. The FBI, January 6th, and Double Standards

• Timestamps: 21:19–25:40
• Solomon reveals new documents: FBI anticipated potential violence far earlier, embedded informants, practiced mass prosecution strategy—but failed to warn key authorities or Trump’s team.
• Alleged double standard: BLM/left violence not treated similarly.

Notable Quotes:

• John Solomon: “The FBI knew there was a strong possibility of a hanging election or a contested election... they even devised strategies – embed informants, mass prosecutions…” [21:40]
• “That is the legacy of the Chris Wray FBI. It's what we now have out and open.” [23:51]

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5. Economic Discussion: “Trumponomics” and the 2026 Boom

• Timestamps: 28:24–38:38
• Peter Navarro details why Wall Street and mainstream economists fail to understand MAGA’s “supply-side” economics; touts tariffs, expensing, and deregulation as drivers of unprecedented GDP and Dow 50,000.
• The “Big Beautiful Bill” and its targeted tax reliefs: no tax on overtime, tips, or Social Security, and 100% expensing for new manufacturing investments.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Navarro: “Everything that Trump does is largely supply side oriented... The four engines of growth are the tax cuts, cutting regulatory burden, strategic energy dominance, and fair trade...” [29:10]
• “It's a three phase process. First you put the tariffs on. Second, investment comes in. Third, construction jobs begin...” [36:56]

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6. Grassroots Energy & the Iowa Tour

• Timestamps: 42:16–48:57
• John Fredericks reports from Iowa on enthusiastic MAGA grassroots support, countering Beltway pessimism.
• Grassroots optimism fueled by economic improvements (real wage gains, no tax on tips/overtime, investment incentives) and a renewed “Main Street” focus.

Notable Quotes:

• John Fredericks: “The feeling here is the exact opposite... You talk to people, they're fired up... The hopelessness is going away, which is driving out the base.” [42:16, 47:20]
• “That thing was a disgusting catastrophe. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.” (on the NFL halftime show) [48:26]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.” — Steve Bannon [11:25]
• “He is American. In fact, he's more American than dozens of people who perform for the halftime show.” — Joe Scarborough [02:03]
• “We are going to commit to doing this again next year...I think that number is going to go higher, 40, maybe even 50…” — Charlie Kirk [09:40]
• “The regulatory burden. Hey, you lower the regulatory burden, you lower costs that increase profits. Future profits give you an expectation that stock prices go up.” — Peter Navarro [32:30]
• “Grassroots optimism is fueled by real wage gains, no tax on tips or overtime…” — John Fredericks [45:00]

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Important Timestamps

• 01:03–11:02: Super Bowl culture wars; halftime debates, Hispanic identity, viewership.
• 15:33–16:21: Solomon’s critique of mainstream (Joe Scarborough) framing, NFL ratings discussion.
• 16:21–23:51: Legislative developments on voter ID, ICE, and Homeland Security.
• 21:40–25:40: FBI revelations, Jan 6 intelligence, informant use, and double standards.
• 28:24–38:38: Navarro on Trumponomics and American economic renewal.
• 42:16–48:57: Iowa bus tour, MAGA grassroots mood, economic impacts on Main Street.

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Tone and Takeaways

• Language & Tone: Combative, patriotic, suspicious of mainstream and elite institutions. Frequently characterizes establishment actions as attacks on traditional America.
• Overarching Message: The "real" America is fighting back—through culture (halftime alternatives), legislation (election security, immigration), and economics (Trumponomics and renewed Main Street strength).
• Notable Issue Framing:
  • Super Bowl halftime show as a microcosm of broader societal values conflict.
  • Media and corporate sports as adversaries to "populist" and "patriotic" America.
  • Economic optimism as a lever for political mobilization.

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This summary captures the full spectrum of themes raised during the episode, useful for those needing a thorough, timestamped breakdown without listening.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is an iheart podcast.

[John Fredericks]

Guaranteed human america.

[Steve Bannon]

Argentina, uruguay, paraguay, bolivia, peru, ecuador, brazil.

[Charlie Kirk]

Colombia, venezuela, guyana, panama, costa rica, nicaragua, hondura, el salvador, guatemala, mexico, cuba, republica dominicana, jamaica, united states, canada, and my motherland, bibadria, puerto rico.

[Joe Scarborough]

Programming didn't work work out too well. 133 million people watching Bad Bunny. But I will say it is. If. If the intention was to provoke people that support ICE and whatever they're doing in Minneapolis, then mission accomplished.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, I suppose so. My problem, Joe, is I just. I don't get offended very easily, so.

[Joe Scarborough]

Yeah, exactly.

[Steve Bannon]

I don't own any of Bad Bunny's music. I'm familiar, you know, I know he. I'm not the target demographic, but I watch the show because I'm watching the game and I'm like, that's kind of a good show. It was entertaining. By the way, my high school Spanish is so rudimentary, I didn't understand a word the guy said. He's speaking too fast. But I grew up in la, Los Angeles, and you know that in a way, it was a very American show. Dale.

[Joe Scarborough]

Unless, of course, you are a bigot and you want to go around saying, we need Americans, as I saw so many people over the weekend. American. He is American. In fact, he's more American than dozens of people who perform for the halftime show. And I didn't see people melting down when it was you two or Paul McCartney or other people who weren't born in America who aren't, you know, American citizens. John Heilman, though, a couple of things. First of all, for Hispanics who have been called the others, who have been treated like garbage, who the Supreme Court has said can be pulled over and stopped because they look Hispanic or because they have broken accents or because of they work at places where Hispanics and other immigrants work because of all the racism and the bigotry that's been directed toward them. First of all, this had to be an extraordinary. And I'd say, okay, great, one of the most powerful institutions in America actually recognizes we are Americans. We are Americans. That's the first thing, because there are a lot of people that somehow couldn't figure that out. Second thing is, the NFL as an institution is bigger than any other institution in America and. And clearly does not care what Donald Trump are. The MAGA right tweets. They just don't care.

[Peter Navarro]

They are that big.

[Joe Scarborough]

The far. The MAGA right tried to go after the NFL. I heard some people say, oh, we're going to boycott them. In 22. Republicans tried to make the NFL an issue. Guess what? It is bigger than ever. And it'll be bigger than ever next year.

[Andrew Colvette]

Andrew, I watched your show. Was great.

[Joe Scarborough]

How did you do?

[Andrew Colvette]

Do you have a sense of how many people watched?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it was a. Kind of blew our minds actually, a little bit, Brian. And you know, we saw at one point, across all the different social channels, we saw over 10 million concurrent views. So that was adding up all of Rumble and all of our partners just on the social side. So and now we. The numbers keep trickling in. I mean, right now as I'm sitting here, YouTube's numbers keep updating, keep updating. And so we're trying to put it all together. What I can safely say is that we are now over 20 million viewers across just social. So we haven't even gotten our partner broadcasters their analytics. As you know, sometimes the ratings take a little while, but that's 20 million viewers. And we don't know how many people were gathered together, 3, 4, 10 in a room watching together. So we're going to try and put our a final number on that when we can. What we can safely say is over 20 million Americans tuned into the All American halftime show tonight.

[Andrew Colvette]

You know, I looked at the pregame show. They had Green Day. The most anti American band you can imagine, they wrote. Their hits album was called the American Idiot. And the lyrics reflect what he thinks of America and our policies. And then they have at halftime, Bad Bunny. I mean, NFL is the number one league in the world and they do a lot.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Andrew Colvette]

I don't understand why in the year 250 they wouldn't think Red, White and.

[Steve Bannon]

Blue, but you did.

[Andrew Colvette]

Lee Bryce also released a song that is so appropriate about our culture. Talk about that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, he actually wrote that in honor of Charlie. So, you know, he has a ton of hits. And we, you know, he wanted to play this one. We said, absolutely, you wrote it for Charlie in his hon, so do it. And I mean, that's what you saw from all of our performers. They did something special to honor the moment, honor how big the stage was, honor Charlie, honor our country. And you saw that from Kid Rock who said God woke him up in the middle of the night to write another verse to that hit song, Till youl Can't. And he used it to, you know, glorify Jesus and lift up his faith and be loud and proud about that. But really there was no agenda. It was just good music for Americans, for people that wanted to feel proud about their country, wanted to love their country, love their God. And love some great music. So, you know, and that was in contrast to the other guys that was on full display tonight.

[Brian]

Brian, Data is pretty clear. It's also the case that we got 60 million, 60 million Spanish speakers in the United States. It's about 45 million where Spanish is first language, another 20 million or so where Spanish is a second language. This is not alternative programming. This is not bold. It's kind of bold break with tradition. It's, it's, it's something new. That's the first super bowl halftime actors ever performed entirely in Spanish. But all this talks about is, all this speaks to is that the, the NFL understands that its capitalist impulses are firmly in line with the choice it made. And the maga, right, is the one that is the, is the force that is on the outside looking in. I will say, on top of everything else, whatever you think of the two last acts of the super bowl, whatever you think of Bad Bunny, whatever you think about Kendrick Lamar, they are two of the most exquisitely well produced halftime shows I've ever seen. I don't know what I expected to see, but the combination of the music and the visuals and what Bad Bunny was singing a pian to here, which was to his heritage in a totally inclusive way. Get every headline. Covering this thing was Bad Bunny's message of unity. And, you know, for all these people who thought, well, he's going to go out there and get political and he's going to say stuff about ice. No, he did a very mainstream, beautifully produced call to everything that's good about how America sees its culture. And he shut up his critics in every possible way last night.

[Steve Bannon]

There's a book that's sitting in your house somewhere that could use some dust. And off there's a man who died for all our sins hanging from the cross. You can give your life to Jesus and he'll give you a second chance till you can see King.

[Joe Scarborough]

Ronald Reagan's farewell speech to America. And he says it is immigrants, it is new arrivals to this country every day. It's an America that throws open their arms to America. Ronald Reagan said this. Ronald Reagan said this. Not some left winger. Ronald Reagan, last speech to America. He says that's what will keep America forever young, forever vibrant and forever ahead of the rest of the world. That's, that's what we have. That's our gift. It's been our gift for over 250 years and it remains that way.

[Andrew Colvette]

And you notice I've yet Kid Rock, Brand Lee Gilbert Lee Bryce and Gabby Barrett all performing tonight. But you mentioned that you went back and looked at Charlie Kirk's tweets and you notice that he was always commenting on the halftime show. He said, why can't they be a little bit more red, white and blue? Why can't it be a little bit more pro American when the whole world is watching? And that's what kind of motivated you guys to do something?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah. He was always fixated on this event, this halftime institution. He wanted it to lift up the best ideals of our country as opposed to pulling us down or being, you know, kind of the lowest common denominator. He wanted it to lift us higher. He wanted it to be about our highest ideals. And, you know, because of the success that just blew. Has blown. It's blown our minds tonight, Brian. So we are going to commit to doing this again next year. We're going to do another halftime show for the country next year. So I'm breaking a little news here, Brian. 20 million at very minimum. I think that number is going to go higher. 40, maybe even 50 in the next 24 hours. So I can tell you that's a shot across the bow. People are paying attention. And you know, if you give us a year to plan this thing, I'm really excited to see what we can pull off. But we got to do it for the country. And the. This is a massive success and we were grateful to do it.

[Andrew Colvette]

And the Make Heaven Crowded tour gets started for 2026, and that's going to be fantastic too. And of course the president's going to be counting on you guys to get the vote out with Turning Point. Turning Point action. So there, there's a lot of. A lot of focus on Turning Point.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're.

[Andrew Colvette]

And you're a great. And you're a great spokesman for it. And the number one more time, how many people watched as of right now?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, what we can say without a doubt, we over 20 million people. 20 million views on social. But that's not broadcast. That's not any of our OTT fast channels. So we don't know what that number is going to be. It could rise as high as 40 or 50 million. We're going to find out that final number tomorrow. But at least 20 million, which we can. You can't even debate.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

[Peter Navarro]

I know you try to do everything.

[Steve Bannon]

In the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

And where do people like that go.

[Peter Navarro]

To share the big lie? MAGA media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Monday the 9th of February in the year of our Lord 2026. I think the number now is up to 25 million. Andrew Colvette is going to join us later in the show before the Charlie Kirk show to get all the latest numbers and Jack Basilva will be with him. We're actually packed this morning but the buried lead in that entire cold open and I really want to give a shout out to my own production team here at the War Room and of course the Real America Voice crew in Denver for putting that was, I think the best succinct package. Now unfortunately we forced you to watch some bad bunny and hear the glazing of Joe Scarborough and the team, but trust me, they don't think it came off that well. Otherwise it'd be wall to wall. It's not wall to wall. We're packed with. I really want to thank Parker Sig, Rob Sig, the entire Real America Voice team that was so instrumental in helping assisting Turning Point to pull that off. It was truly monumental if you know how these things get put together. It was absolutely incredible how it was put together. And the pregame, the pre show package with Jack Bosobic and, and David Zier and Ben Berkwam was fantastic. The numbers here at RAV were huge. Of course, turning. Turning Point was huge. I think they're 25 million now and I believe Andrew's right. Before this thing's over, it will be 40 or 50 million. Just an incredible. And this was put together relatively at the last moment to, to make sure it's done. You saw how exquisitely they put it all together. Of course, the NFL, they're not capitalists. That's oligarchs. And it's not the NFL as an institution. It's the owners in back of them. The owners, some of the wealthiest people in the world. And they just showed you what they think of the United States, what they, what they think about open borders. When you really contemplate how we got 15 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country and now there's A firestorm about getting them out. Just look to the National Football League. Look to the owners of the National Football League because that's really who rules America. And yesterday there was bad as in your face as you can get. Okay, we're take a short commercial break. We're going to leave you with Bruce Springsteen. He was upended on the charts by Natasha Owens. And Real America Music will play Natasha's song a little later. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to come back, we're going to talk about a lot of institutions. Dr. Peter Navarro is going to join us from the White House. John Solomon is going to be here to talk to us about the FBI. Short commercial break. We're going to return to the War Room on the morning after Green Day and Bad Bunny in a moment. War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, we curated that so you didn't have to sit through it last night. I know that all of this audience watched the Charlie Kirk special either over at turning points, YouTube or on RAV or here Worm. It was just fantastic, amazing. John Solomon, we just forced you to watch it. Your, your, your thoughts, sir, before we get into the FBI, before we get into the real news, your thoughts on, on what you just saw.

[John Solomon]

Well, listen, I want to address what Morning Joe said. I think it's time to start calling him make it up Joe. He just makes stuff up. So he said two things. He said, yep, NFL stronger than ever. And MAGA tried to take it out and lost. Actually, MAGA drove down its ratings until football players stopped kneeling. And so if you're going to have a new show, you should have some semblance of factual basis to make your claims. He's completely wrong on that. And then he said the second thing. He and his guests kept trying to portray what Bad Bunny did as inclusive. If half or three quarters of the audience or even more doesn't understand the words, it's not very inclusive. So I thought Morning Joe was more like a propaganda machine. Again today it's supposed to be a new show. He should at least have some semblance of fact when he makes his claims. He's a make it up sort of guy these days.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm gonna play a little later. David Zier had a fantastic analysis last night on the, on the pre game that Posobic and Rav did. I'll get to that in a moment. The reason is we got a ton of breaking news. So John, you talk about the situation, what the bad bunny was, you know, ice out the culture, the pop culture, you know, trying to, trying to shut things down. This week we're supposed to have a vote on, I guess, Save America. Now. Chip, Roy and others are trying to put more things in it. So you've got the mail in ballots, you have the, not just the voter id, but you've got the, about the purging the voter rolls. All of that is your sense, given your knowledge of Capitol Hill, that the House can actually get that passed this week and then turn it over to the Senate and we'll talk about the Senate a second. But do you think the House can actually pull this together to codify President Trump's program about straightening out elections?

[John Solomon]

I think so. When I talked to Steve Scalise, he felt he had the votes to get this package through. By the way, the two key provisions already passed the House separately. Putting them together and sending them to the Senate is really designed to put an enormous amount of pressure on the Senate. The House Republican leaders feel confident they'll get this bill through. What does it do? It makes you show proof of citizenship to register and then requires an ID to vote. Two things that would safeguard our elections. And by the way, both of them are 75 to 85% popular among Americans, including among minorities. So it's not something that's controversial and just like Bad Bunny in the NFL or out of tune elitists that thought it was a great show when the, the rest of America was scratching its head. The Democrats in the Senate and maybe some Republicans in the Senate are going to show their elitism by trying to stop something that is 80% popular. The real question for the Republican Party, the conservative movement, all the conservative groups is do they have the will to pressure the Democrats and the rhino Republicans to get this vote to the floor first, first threshold is can you force John Thune to go back to the standing talking filibuster, not the lazy filibuster that Mitch McConnell put it into place. And then after that, once Republican, once Democrats tire and they can't talk anymore and they used up all their talk time, do the Republicans have enough votes to pass us on a simple majority? Every conservative group should that I'm talking to wants to lobby and put enormous pressure on the Senate to get the job done. But it will get out of the House by all, by all accounts, John.

[Steve Bannon]

Simultaneously, we're also negotiating, the Senate's negotiating this package about restrictions on ice. Of course, as you've seen, the five or six things are up for discussion. The Warren Posse is saying hey, that's the bare minimum anyway. So what is that? Tell me about the potential shutdown of Department of Homeland Security.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, so I think there's a game of chicken going on and this is one of the few times that the conservatives have the upper hand in the game of chicken.

[Brian]

Why?

[John Solomon]

ICE is fully funded regardless of what happens here. ICE is already funded. There was a five year appropriation that was slipped into the bill last year. So ICE will continue on, which will be an eyesore to the Democrats. It'll make them look silly that they're shutting down the Homeland Security Department. But they can't shut down ICE now. What will the Democrats be shutting down? Well, they'd be shutting down FEMA just before the hurricane season starts or while these winter storms are still raging. There is a lot of fodder for conservatives to hold the line if they don't get the deal they want because the demagoguery is going to flip around and boomerang on Democrats in this package if Republicans don't get wobbly knees.

[Steve Bannon]

John, illuminate the audience on this topic. People are saying, hey, all this standing filibuster and even the negotiations. The Munich Security Conference starts Friday. Half of the Senate wants to be on planes on Thursday to make it. Why is the Munich Security Conference such a big deal from members of the United States Senate that it would actually take away from a robust debate and negotiation around Homeland security? Sir.

[John Solomon]

Another proof that America is second in a lot of people's minds. Right? They're more interested in a foreign conference than they are in getting the job done here. They haven't cut spending in a meaningful way. They haven't really given ICE and Homeland all the resources they need. But they'd rather go off and get another junket. I mean, this is a Congress that works less than half the time and spends more time raising money and going on junkets than getting the people's business done. And that's been the case whether it's under Democratic leadership or Republican leadership. Now the House is moving a lot of stuff and the House deserves a lot of credit. They're getting a lot done. The Senate is the place where things go to sleep. They go to die. Because the Senate under Republicans is not much more active than it was under Democrats. Now they got the big beautiful bill. They deserve one kudo on that. But since then, that was in July. What have you done for me lately is what a lot of Americans are asking of Senator John Thune in the Senate.

[Steve Bannon]

You've got a pretty explosive story. You Put up at midnight last night on Just the News. Let me get this correct. A year before January 6, the FBI knew there might be some consternation about the election, given everything, given the Democrats already were gaming it. They thought this thing through and they actually had plans specifically for January 6th, sir.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, they did. They had a tabletop exercise that they ran in Boston in August of 2024, five months before January 6th occurred. The, the, the memos which Cash Patel just turned over to Congress, he just found them recently, turned them over to Congress at the request of Chairman Barry Louder Milk, who's in charge of the J6 investigation now in the House, show that the FBI knew there was a strong possibility of a hanging election or a contested election, that both sides appeared to be agitated and likely would likely carry out that agitation to the point of violence. And, and they even devised very specific strategies. And one of them is to embed informants inside the groups where the most likely political violence or political agitation might occur. That is something that the FBI did. We had two dozen informants on the ground on the morning of January six. The second thing they recommended was mass prosecutions, even for the most minor of crimes. Exactly what the FBI did after January 6. Now, there are two big things about that strategy. It's pretty clear the strategy was hatched months before and that's what they carried out. It's not the strategy they use for the political violence at BLM and the far left conducted all throughout the summer and fall of 2020. So a very clear double standard. The second thing is they did embed informants in a lot of groups, including left and right groups, antifa and right wing groups. And they got lots of intelligence suggesting a bad episode would occur. We now know from Chairman Barry Loudermilk that while those warnings were very strong from the informants, the preparations of the warnings from the FBI to the brethren in the Capitol in Washington D.C. did not exist. They didn't pass on the warnings from the informants. So two failed examples of the Chris Wray era, of the FBI knowing something was going to happen, implementing a strategy that hurt conservatives, but not liberals, and not warning the people who could actually prevent the violence from occurring. That is the legacy of the Chris Wray FBI. It's what we now have out and open. These documents are now out there for everybody to see. Pretty stunning, though maybe not so stunning given what we've learned about the FBI.

[Steve Bannon]

Is there any part of this that shows that they brief that Bill Barr and Chris Wray briefed the President of the United States or briefed his staff or briefed senior people at the White House after the tabletop exercise and after they came up with a plan of how to get informants. Is there any, any evidence at all that people that should have known about this were actually informed about it?

[John Solomon]

No. It doesn't look like the Attorney General knew Bill Barr or the brass, at least not as of now. There's no documentation showing that. There's no mention of it in the documents even suggesting that we alert the Attorney General or the Homeland Security Department or the Capitol Police or the Washington D.C. metropolitan Police. So it looks like the insular, sort of pillared FBI existed again. These are the same diseases that affected the FBI before 9 11. And you're starting to see the same thing. You plan for something, you don't create the scenario where that planning actually results in success, it results in failure. And the American people are the big loser. January 6th was a preventable attack, as was 9 11. We now know that from the 911 report. The parallels between the two are really, really remarkable. And I think the Chris Wray era. You know a lot of people talk about the James Comey era. There's plenty of reasons to talk about James Comey, but he was a much shorter term FBI Director. Chris Wray was a much more consequential, longer FBI director and perhaps caused more harm to the institution into security in America and to law and order in America. He went after Catholics, he went after school, parents. He went after FBI agents if they were pro Trump or pro second Amendment. And he had all the goods to prepare and stop a January 6th crisis, but instead failed to do so.

[Steve Bannon]

John, where do people get all your content? News site, social media and particularly the.

[John Solomon]

Show, Just the News.com is the website. Be checking that out later today. I think there's going to be some news about you there. Steve Bannon, good news for you, good news for the American public. Jay Solomon reports on all social media platform and I'm lucky enough to follow you every night. Six o' clock here on Real America's Voice. Just the news, no noise and television show.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you look forward to seeing. Have a good one at 6:00 tonight. Thank you. I think this argues that it's just not bad apples. It's a structural institutional issue and that's why the FBI I think has got to be taken apart. The question gets to be and this is where it talks about motivation for people that to get out and vote. Where's the accountability? When is Chris Ray when we're going to get in into a serious effort to hold Chris Ray accountable for everything he did. This is another outrage about and then he bald face lied about it. Birch Gold, take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N o n at @989898 the ultimate guide. Totally free, no obligation from Birch Gold. Talk to Philip Patrick and the team today about Gold is a hedge. Natasha Owens takes us out. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, welcome back. Let's go to Dr. Peter Navarro at the White House. Dr. Navarro, you got a lead story up in rucclear markets this morning. Now, the discussion with with speaker of the House Johnson. Last week they had Senate they had a Senate donor meeting I think down in Palm beach and they had other meetings in D.C. they're all talking about the economy's turning around so quickly that that's going to take us through 2026. Of course, we just can't depend upon the economy. There's so many other things that got to be done and to get our voters motivated and up to the ramparts. But specifically on the economy, you're saying that Wall street doesn't understand Trumponomics, that it's all starting to click, yet all you hear in the Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times in London, the New York Times business section is woe as me how bad the economy is. So what is true? What are you guys doing? And I know the stock market hit 50,000, but obviously that means lower cost of capital to make sure that we can build more manufacturing facilities. But a lot of people are not involved in the stock market. So what does Trumponomics mean? What doesn't Wall street get about it? And why are you so confident that we're going to have a robust BO economy come come the fall elections?

[Peter Navarro]

Well, first of all, for folks out Magellan who are not involved in the stock market, it still matters if the stock market's going up because it's a prediction of basically how the economy in the future is going to look like. And by the way, we'll do this maybe later in the week. I'm going to talk about how the manufacturing renaissance is actually going well. Okay. But here's the deal. April 7, 2025, it was shortly after President Trump announced the reciprocal tariffs and Wall Street's head exploded. I was on squawk box with the famous Joe Kernan. And again, futures dead red down and Dow was like flirting with 38,000. Okay. This was not many months ago. It was April 7th. And I got on there with Joe and I walked him through the four engines of GDP growth that Trump nomics does and told everybody to relax that the Dow was going to hit 50,000. I think I'm the only guy on Wall street who said 50,000. And Joe of course was like crazy kind of stuff like that. But we hit 50,000 on Friday. And here's what Wall street doesn't understand. Here's what Jay Powell does not understand. Everything that Trump does is largely supply side oriented. And the virtue of supply side type policies is they can simultaneously stimulate growth without causing inflation. Very different from Keynesian demand stuff. Spend money and just throw at it. And the four engines of growth are the tax cuts, cutting the regulatory burden, strategic energy dominance and fair trade. And all of those work for MAGA because the common denominator is to boost working class jobs, manufacturing. And if you just walk through that, the big beautiful bill, like what's it doing? No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. Most important from a manufacturing point of view, Steve, is 100% expensing for investment in new factories and manufacturing. Okay, check that box. The regulatory burden. Hey, you lower the regulatory burden, you lower costs that increase profits. Future profits give you an expectation that stock prices go up. So we're seeing that strategic energy dominance, Steve, oil and natural gas being cheap isn't just the fact that your car and your house run cheaper. Okay? It's that energy is ubiquitous across the entire economy, particularly for food, because natural gas is a big ingredient for fertilizer. I don't know if you know this, so check that box. And then the fair trade thing and the tariffs, it's like what people don't understand about that is when you stop the world from cheating us. And it's not just China, it's Europe, it's Brazil, it's everywhere. Canada, Mexico. When you stop them from cheating us, then we get more jobs in factories here and abroad. People want to come here to avoid a tariff, so they invest here. So then what that in turn does, that begets investment, begets productivity, productivity begets jobs and increased wages. So this is what Wall street doesn't get. Jay Powell doesn't get it. Back in 2018 when he was raising rates too soon, he cost us a point of GDP growth. Right now he's sitting on interest rates way above where they should be because he doesn't understand Trumpomics. And people just need to understand that this stuff works. We're positioning for a boom. And it's like, I don't like the name drop or Whatever. And I won't say the names. A couple of senators last night just talking about November coming up and then they were like really defensive about the big beautiful bill. I said, no, no, no, no, no. It's like you got to understand between now and November, everything's going to get better. Consumer confidence going up. The ISM manufacturing index had a huge jump last week, Steve. We'll talk more about it later in the week. And so life's going to be good or at least better. And it doesn't mean that we don't understand people's pain. We understand how hard it is to get by in this world. We understand some of the threats out there, like AI. But on balance, there's a reason why 50,000 on the Dow got hit. And it's good for Main street as well as Wall Street.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, it's, let's talk about that. The Wall street versus Main street in the growth. And I think you're seeing in other people, the IMF and the Atlanta Fed and other people coming out. And you're a number, particularly in the real economy that people didn't think you would hit. People turn 4, maybe 4.5% GDP growth is your concern. Particularly a lot of this investment is going in data centers, a lot of investment. You saw $700 billion this year from the major companies into artificial intelligence. Are you concerned that because it's both GDP growth, it's jobs growth and its real wages growth, are you concerned that the job growth may not be as, as robust as the overall growth of the economy?

[Peter Navarro]

Well, first of all, we have to do a reset both on Main street and Wall street on what to expect in terms of job growth every month in order to create enough jobs for the American people. When we were importing 20 million illegal aliens over four year period under Joe Biden's open border policies, we had to create upwards of 200,000 jobs a month, Steve, 200,000 jobs a month to keep the unemployment rate where it was. And as you know in the statistics, which blew my mind when they started coming out, we were actually seeing American citizens go to the unemployment line. And all the net new job growth in the Biden years was illegal aliens. Now today with the deportations, we only need to create about 50,000 jobs a month in order to maintain steady state and keep wages on the upswing. And Wall street hasn't really adjusted to that. You know, you get the Steve Leisman's of this world on CNBC. Well, they only created 50,000 jobs. It's like terrible. Nothing like the Biden years. Well, you don't need to have that number. So that's going to be really important. And look, Steve, I'm as concerned as anybody in MAGA and anybody, including you, about the effect of AI on jobs, on electricity, on water and on agricultural land. But we are working hard on all four points of that compass and hopefully we can stay ahead of that curve.

[Steve Bannon]

Let me last thing I know, you're going to come back and we're going to address this more later in the week. But the Wall Street Journal in particular is on a jihad that President Trump is in fact in your plan and Bessens plan and Hassett's plan is not really creating the manufacturing jobs at the pace that we need. You want to give us at least a couple of lines on your rebuttal to the Wall Street Journal and I understand you're coming back with more statistics later in the week. But the Wall Street Journal seems to be adamant that in fact President Trump has made it a central part of his to bring manufacturing jobs back. That's one of the reasons you have a gig in the White House. What say you, sir?

[Peter Navarro]

It's a three phase process. First of all, you put the tariffs on. Second of all, investment comes in both from abroad, but also from the big beautiful bill, 100% expensing. Third, construction jobs begin. You can't make stuff and create factory jobs until the construction is completed. That takes 12 to 18 to 36 months. So that's how the ramp up looks. And again, the Wall Street Journal wants that talking point. They want two things. They want to say the tariffs are inflationary. They want to say the tariffs don't bring manufacturing. That's their mantra. But they're not looking at the same data I'm looking at. And they're not understand the sequencing, Steve, the sequencing. You got to build the factories before the manufacturing jobs come.

[Steve Bannon]

Dr. Navarro, you were dead right on the 7th of April, which was a couple of days after Liberation Day when we talked about fair trade throughout the world, redoing the world's commercial relationships with President Trump, putting the country first and American citizens first and American workers first at 38,000. Once again your call shot to 50. It's like after we won in 16 when Peter Navarro single handedly stopped a market route by actually explaining Trumponomics to the world for the first time. I think by an economist, a PhD economist. I want to thank you. Where do people go? You're putting up videos all day, content all day long to explain this.

[Peter Navarro]

Where do people go? But we'll tell that story some other time. It's funny. I love it.

[Steve Bannon]

Where do people go for your content?

[Peter Navarro]

Peter Navarro. Peter navarro.com and you go to X Getter and truth. The boss just last night retweeted a video I did which goes with the Real Clear markets piece on Dow 50,000. And you can see that. So Peter navarro.com is the one stop shop. Steve, keep doing what you're doing, brother.

[Steve Bannon]

And the video had no Lion King at the end of it. Peter Navarro made sure that was taken care of. Dr. Navarro, thank you. Look forward to having you later in the week.

[Peter Navarro]

No music either.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Do I have John Fredericks? John Fredericks, can we tease the the next block? Where are you?

[John Fredericks]

So where we can maybe want a bus tour in Iowa? Straw poll coming up. We've got one running. You're in it. You're doing better than anybody expected except me. I knew you'd be right there. Share that later. Bannon on a roll in Iowa.

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to know what the good folks in Iowa are talking about. John Frederick is going to join us after a short commercial break. He's got a We're there to find out as we're here in Texas how fired up the Trump base is for turning out in in November. There's a lot of, I think, miscommunications. New poll out in Texas that shows Ken Paxton has a pretty big lead over John Cornyn. And I can tell you being down in Texas, if you're watching, if you're watching television, John Cornyn, Senator Corner has carried carpet bombed, has carpet bombed, has carpet bombed Texas with $50 million worth of ads, but Ken Paxton up. We're going to try to get Ken Paxton later in the show. We're going to take a short commercial break. John Fredericks is live from his freedom bus in I think Des Moines, Iowa and Iowa. He's going to take a tour around the state this week. So I have a lot of good info on where the MAGA voters stand short commercial break Take your phone out. Text Bannon at 98 get the Ultimate Guide totally free. Totally free of investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Remember, they put silver in there. Gold and silver rise, fall, rise again. Fall. Check it out. Find out why. Find out why central banks are buying it at record rates. Get to Philip Patrick in the team by Birch Gold. We're going to leave you with Bruce Springsteen. We know you. You hate this song. That's where we're Making you listen to it. Natasha Owens in the next room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. John Fredericks joins us. John, you're on your bus. You're taking the bus for a week's tour and I want to go through so the Warren posse knows where you're going. I'm in Texas, you're in Iowa. Neither one of us are in Virginia. Nuclear winters come to Virginia. As we warn people about Spamberger is, is on a, is on a roll. She's going to jam through this ten to one House situation. Maryland's going to go eight zero. Degrasse is going to be up here in the next couple of days. We're going to talk about the redistricting movement across the country. At best we could come up plus three or plus four on the Republican side if everything comes together. But what's the temperature? You just heard Dr. Navarro from the White House. We're have Mark Mitchell on in a couple of minutes. And of course Mark and Richard Barris, who are two of the best MAGA pollsters, have gone to a dark place about what they think. I know on Capitol Hill, there's a lot of people in the House, a lot of people in the Senate are throwing in the towel already. The only thing that matters is the MAGA base and where their heads are at right now. What is your sense so far as you kick it off today? I think you're in the Des Moines area. What's your sense from the actual MAGA fighters out there in the great state.

[John Fredericks]

Of Iowa, shocking in one day to get out of the District? You know, my wife Ann that runs the company, the CEO said you got to get out of this bubble. You got to get out of D.C. i want you to go to Iowa, go on a bus tour there. That's where it all started. Go to the heartland. I mean, you come out here for a couple of days on the weekend, you go to restaurants, you meet people fired up. Nothing like you get in D.C. nothing like the panic ins in the Senate. Nothing like John Thune thrown in the towel, the whole bit. It's so different out here. And the temperature, you know, you look at New Jersey, Virginia, MAGA voters did show they're depressed, et cetera. You had the debacle that went on in North Dallas in that special. The feeling here is the exact opposite. I mean, we got great MAGA candidates like Ashley Vincent running for Senate. You talk to people, they're fired up. You know, you got, you got all these good things happening in the economy and people are starting to feel it. Gas prices have come down, et cetera. So people are starting to feel, hey, there's a light here at the end of the tunnel. And I was becoming almost the cultural center of the MAGA base and your posse base out here because the people are fired up. And so the spring in my step being here just two days over the weekend from where it was, you know, spending three weeks in Washington D.C. every day at the White House, unbelievable difference, Steve. And it gives me great hope that we're going to turn this thing around in the midterms. I think we got a shot right now when this economy turns. We got a shot to actually win these midterms and save the house. I'm fired up. We got great candidates here running. And you know, the thing about Iowa is you got to go talk to people. There's 99 counties. You can't do TV like they're doing in Texas. You gotta go out and talk to people and when you do, they tell you the truth, they tell you what's going on. So we're fired up here.

[Steve Bannon]

No, I think that's why the Texas grassroots aren't fired. I think that's one of the reasons Paxton's a new poll out today. We're trying to get Ken on shows Ken up. But I want to go back because this is very important. A turned around economy from the Biden disaster is the predicate of President Trump's effort to turn around the country. Obviously the closing the borders, mass deportations, all that. But a, a singular event was this passage of the big beautiful bill and tariffs. Like I said, they both work simultaneously about driving manufacturing back here. What you're people are seeing, the green roots there, you got the, you got the entrepreneurial class and you got the workers. Give me, break it down both. What are the business guys and the entrepreneurs saying and then what are the average folks on Main street saying as you talk to them?

[John Fredericks]

Well, let's start with the business folks, the small business, which is the engine driver in the nation for jobs. I mean, there's a very different attitude here because of the one big beautiful bill, because of the write offs they were able to take for new equipment and expansion. Obviously with the stock market up, like Peter Navarro said, like the doctor said, up to 50,000 people are now looking again at reinvesting in this economy, growing their business, hiring workers. You know, this is the time for expansion. So that's going, you get down to the working people and look, they like health care prices to come down. That's the number one negative issue I hear from working people, health care too expensive. But Rx is coming down with Trump Rx prescription prices are coming down. But like I was at a restaurant last night, talked to the waiter, here's what the guy said. I'm getting a $5,500 check back. No tax on tips. Not $55 or $500 like, you know, George Bush or somebody sent out a check. It's a $5,000 I'm getting back. Like I can do a lot with that. I go on vacation, I can buy something. You know, I get my automobile fixed. So it's a big deal for Orkin people when these refunds start to hit and people understand, no tax on overtime, no tax on tips. These are actually real. Plus my general tax rates down. A lot of businesses I've talked to here, talking about five, six of them over the past week. All of them, even if revenue was up, paying less taxes like we are in 25 than they did in 24, all this stuff is starting to roll up. Nobody saw this until they're going to see it in the second quarter. When you look at GDP growth here, the average work of people working, guy punching a clock, he doesn't know what GDP growth is. All he knows is is my paycheck lasting me longer at the grocery store. That's it. And as prices start to stabilize and now come down, that feeling of hopelessness is going away, which is driving out the base. Now I think we're going to start to see it over the spring and, and by the middle of the summer.

[Steve Bannon]

John, where do people go to find out? The bus is going to be going to different sites in Iowa. We want to make sure as many war room posse members as possible get there. Where do they go for information and.

[John Fredericks]

Call in in the morning. If you're from Iowa or you know anybody in Iowa, just, just call in the street show, 6 to 10am Eastern. 888-480-John. 888480, John. You can find it where the bus is. That's John Frigginsradio.com and follow me on, on social media at JF Radio Show. At JF Radio Show. And we've also got a big straw poll up, the first in the nation. You can vote in that. So very interesting the results so far. We're not doing it with now, but you'll get Those [e-mail] I tell you what, Steve. Getting out of the, the Beltway, getting out of D.C. come to Iowa. Best thing I did changes.

[Steve Bannon]

I told. I told you moving to D.C. would. You would live.

[Brian]

You were.

[Steve Bannon]

You would live to regret it. Real quickly, we got 30 seconds. How cynical was the NFL owner's move yesterday on putting Bad Bunny on?

[John Fredericks]

It was just terrible. I mean, that thing was such a joke, Steve. I mean, I bet the Seahawks. Obviously, I was happy about the win. We did not watch the halftime show. But, like, you got to get your audience, dude. I mean, President Trump gets his audience. Steve Bannon gets his audience. I get my audience. Roger Goodell in the NFL suits. They don't understand who their audience is for football. That. That's. That. That thing was a disgusting catastrophe. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[Steve Bannon]

We gotta bounce.

[John Fredericks]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Steve Bannon]

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