THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, MARCH 12TH, 2026 (EP.#5210)

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Episode: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon (Ep. #5210)
Date: March 12, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Key Guests: Eric Bolling, Rosemary Jenks, Mike Howe, Brandon Hall

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Episode Overview

This episode of “The War Room” with Steve Bannon focuses on two primary themes: the escalation of U.S. military and geopolitical tensions in the Gulf and its implications for American energy policy, and the domestic battles around mass deportation, immigration, and perceived Islamic influence in American schools—particularly in Texas. Several guests provide insight, including media personality Eric Bolling, anti-immigration activist Rosemary Jenks, political organizer Mike Howe, and Texas State Board of Education member Brandon Hall.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S. Military & Energy Strategy in the Gulf

Timestamps: 00:57 – 14:36

Geopolitical Shifts & Energy Security

• Bannon sets the stage by outlining escalating tensions in the Gulf, implicating Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. He warns of foreign funding for American adversaries and criticizes reliance on securing oil tankers through military intervention.

  • “This is the primal scream of a dying regime...” (00:22 – Bannon)

• Bannon and Eric Bolling debate the effectiveness of deploying the Navy for tanker escorts and Trump’s industry-backed target for oil prices at $50/barrel.

  • “President Trump...wants full spectrum energy dominance at $50.” (04:18 – Bannon)

• Bolling argues for more assertive military escalation against Iran rather than temporary fixes, referencing Eisenhower: “If you can't solve the problem, elevate it.”

  • “Take out more leaders. Take out people maybe who aren't even actual leaders, but tied to leaders, until they say, okay, what do you need?” (06:07 – Bolling)

• Discussion of military “carrot and stick” tactics: intensify strikes, then negotiate, “drive them to the negotiating table...with American involvement in their oil resources to maximize cash flow.” (07:40 – Bannon)

  • Bolling: “This is about oil. North Korea has nukes. We’re not regime changing there…this is about crude oil.” (08:05 – Bolling)

Notable Quotes:

• “When the commander in chief says, ‘hey, I want tankers and I want them protected,’ you give them a cheery aye, aye and you get a couple of combatants down there as hard as it is, or something’s deeply wrong.” (03:03 – Bannon)
• “You need both. You need the carrot and the stick. And the stick is clearly our military is badass and they’ll kick the living day, continue to do a. Pound them, pound all their top people, pound the families of their top people. Sorry, it’s war.” (09:28 – Bolling)

2. American Domestic Concerns: Immigration, Mass Deportation & Demographic Shifts

Timestamps: 14:36 – 31:23

Poll Results & MAGA Coalition Strategy

• Rosemary Jenks presents polling from her organization, showing overwhelming support among Trump voters—and even a majority of Hispanics—for mass deportation policies.

  • “66% [of all Americans] want all illegal aliens deported. And 59% of Hispanics agree.” (18:13 – Jenks)
  • “74% of Trump voters said that they are more likely to vote Republican in the 2026 midterms if President Trump exceeds a million deportations in 2026—that’s huge.” (18:02 – Jenks)

• Mike Howe commits to elevating the “mass deportation” message nationally, dismissing donor and business class resistance:

  • “We’re not going to say mass deportations. We’re going to frigging scream it across the country with every red blooded American that voted for President Trump to do just that.” (23:58 – Howe)

• Bannon and guests frame the current GOP divide as “special interest in the lobbyists versus the rest of the American people.” (24:33 – Howe)

Counting Deportations & Methods

• Debate on what counts as a “deportation”—formal removal versus “self-deportation” triggered by enforcement and hardship.
  • “Unless illegal aliens believe that they’re going to be apprehended and formally removed, they’re not going to leave.” (26:53 – Jenks)

Notable Quotes:

• “80% said it is unfair for the wealthy to profit from illegal labor while Americans have to compete with it. 72% of Hispanics agreed.” (20:59 – Jenks)
• “Anybody that’s against mass deportations elected with, with Republican grassroots support is a—you’re a collaborator, full stop.” (45:25 – Bannon)

3. Islam in American Public Life & Texas Education

Timestamps: 31:23 – 42:54

CAIR Testimony in Texas & Islamization Concerns

• Brandon Hall (TX State Board of Education) describes refusing to hear testimony from CAIR representatives, calling CAIR a “foreign terrorist organization” as designated by Texas and Florida governors.

  • “CARE stated goal is to push Sharia law in the state of Texas, and now they're here to do it in our schools.” (31:45 – Hall)

• Bannon and Hall argue this is symbolic of broader infiltration into American society (“Islamic invasion”) and tie the conflict over school curricula to a larger culture war.

  • “They want anything but Christianity in our schools because they've allowed the Islamists to come in...Let's talk about the separation of mosque and state.” (41:30 – Hall)
  • “If we lose Texas, we lose the country...The barbarians are in the gate and we have to fight as hard as possible to make sure that they don’t influence our children.” (36:41 – Hall)

• Bannon and Hall point to resistance against teaching America’s Christian roots and claim Islamic influence seeks to revise history curriculum, drawing parallels with “no go zones” in Europe.

Notable Quotes:

• “If CAIR doesn't like the fact that we're teaching that factual history, if they don't like the Christian roots and foundations of this country, then I would suggest we should be buying them tickets, you know, to the Middle east or one of the other 50 plus Muslim countries that we have, instead of allowing them to try to change our history and revise it...” (39:01 – Hall)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Energy & Gulf Discussion / Oil Market & Military Policy: 00:57 – 14:36
• Immigration & Mass Deportation Polls: 16:28 – 31:23
• CAIR, Education Standards, & Texas “Sharia” Debate: 31:23 – 42:54

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Memorable Moments/Quotes

• Bannon: “Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people...this is a full scale invasion of Texas.” (00:20, 01:05)
• Bolling on military escalation: “We should get our military to elevate our boot, step more firmly on the neck of Iran.” (06:15)
• Jenks: “Mass deportations have to be part of that, a major part of it…It’s what we elected President Trump to do.” (18:13)
• Howe: “It’s special interest in the lobbyists versus the rest of the American people.” (24:33)
• Hall: “CARE knows how important [curriculum] is...The barbarians are in the gate and we have to fight as hard as possible…” (36:41)
• Bannon: “Anybody that's against mass deportations elected with Republican grassroots support is a collaborator, full stop.” (45:25)

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Resources & Follow-up

• Rosemary Jenks’ poll: iaproject.org (see poll and documents)
• Mike Howe’s Mass Deportation Coalition: Twitter/X @phase2deport ([30:19])
• Brandon Hall (TX State Board of Education): Twitter/X @BrandonHallTX ([42:46])

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Tone and Language

The episode employs highly combative, alarmist, and partisan rhetoric, mixing military analogies (“go medieval,” “primal scream of a dying regime”) with cultural war terminology. Guests and host use language that frames their opposition as “collaborators,” “barbarians in the gate,” and assert the need for immediate, forceful action both abroad and domestically.

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In Summary

• Global Focus: Bannon and guests decry what they perceive as weak U.S. responses both in the Middle East militarily and on domestic energy strategy.
• Immigration: Strong emphasis on mass deportation as a defining policy for MAGA voters, with recent polling data used to support the position.
• Culture & Education: Texas emerges as a new battleground, with claims of Islamic infiltration into public schools and a broader fight over historical narratives and influence.
• Call to Action: The hosts urge listeners to engage, support coalition efforts, and emphasize the importance of the coming midterms and state-level battles for immigration and educational policy.

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Transcript

[Rosemary Jenks]

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[Brandon Hall]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Eric Bolling]

to share the big lie? MAGA I wish in my soul, I

[Steve Bannon]

wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Thursday 12th March year of alert 2026 but go back to Bolling when the center of gravity of this conflict, which almost seems logical, has shifted to the Gulf and the oil resources of the world and our allies, the Arab nations over there, which have been very tenuous as you know, because they're the funders. Qatar, particularly the house of Saudi Arabia, maybe not uae, maybe not mbz, but definitely Qatar and definitely the Saudis are the funders of so much going on in this country. That's just a fact. Whether people want to admit it or not. The Muslim Brotherhood and care and all of it. And you look at New York City and I've said over and over and over again, it ain't in downtown Tehran. It's never been our problem, full stop. Our problem is what's going on in New York City, in Dearborn, Michigan. This is why we moved our operation down to Texas, right? You can see this is a full scale invasion of Texas. Don't buy it from me. Brandon hall is going to be here in a minute, another folk person on the school board and tell you you look at Mandami over the last 24 hours also as great as the military has been and I think this is why there were leaks a couple of weeks ago, why raising Kaine and people in the Pentagon were hesitant about going now. When the commander in chief, when President Trump says, hey, look, we're taking some incoming on these tankers and you know, I got it, I need the Navy to escort it. Go back to the tanker wars of, of the late 80s, understanding that the battlefield has changed dramatically because of artificial intelligence and drones and all of it. Unacceptable answer. An unacceptable answer is that, oh, we can get to it by the end of the month. That should have been thought through. When the commander in chief says, hey, I want tankers and I want them protected, you give them a cheery aye, aye and you get a couple of combatants down there as hard as it is, or something's deeply wrong. We have young men and women in harm's way. We have the nation's prestige in harm's way. We have the Chinese Communist Party looking at every one of these things. And I agree, and this is why I've been a big advocate of, on this show, to quarantine that oil years ago, and particularly in the June 12day war. What was this show saying? Quarantine the oil going to the Chinese Communist Party. You put a naval blockade right outside of Hormuz and turn them around, say you, you head back to Carg island because you ain't going through the Straits of Malacca, you're not going up to the South China Sea, and you're not going to go into Shanghai or one of the ports, one of the more southern ports, Canton, to use an old English expression. Eric Bolling as so as we sit here today, you're saying that we're heading in the wrong direction of President Trump. I just want to make sure we're very clear about this. President Trump also has another issue he does not want to see, particularly given all the work he's done to get oil to $50 a barrel, which is the industry tells Trump, we want it at 60. Trump says, no, I want it at 50. Full spectrum energy dominance at 50. We ain't got a $4 a gallon gasoline anywhere but California, which is like 12 bucks, right? Because of the madness out there. But President Trump's got an issue. He doesn't want it at $4. So why is unleashing this at least something, the 100 million barrels or whatever they're talking, our strategic reserve. And I'm a big believer in the Jones act because I like to having an American maritime merchant marine force, which the Jones Acts is there legislative to protect. He's saying, hey, I want all the pandemoniums. I want everybody that can bring it, bring it. Why are Those temporary measures, not at least something to deal with the, the immediate problem since the Navy's telling him, hey, maybe at the end of the month we can start escorting the ships and get insurance back up. All of which is problematic and I'm not saying will happen. But when the president's got a limited, and I keep saying give him optionality, give him a range of alternatives. When he picks these alternatives, why are they. They're stopgap measures. But we're in a, we're in the business right now of stopgap measures, are we not, sir?

[Eric Bolling]

We shouldn't be. We should be in the business of fixing this. Fixing this permanently. I mean, Steve, the Jones. So, okay, so foreign tanker can pull into our port. Now what. How does that affect the price of gasoline at the pump? It doesn't. It won't have any effect. I know Trump doesn't want to see a $4. Listen, I love Trump. You and I have been on the Trump. You've been there. I've been there since 2015. I love the man. He's not bigger than the energy market. He's just not. So what he has to do is fix problem, the US Problem. You know, Rickard said something important. He talked, he quoted Eisenhower saying, if you can't solve the problem, elevate it. And I think this is what we should do. We should get our military to elevate our boot, step more firmly on the neck of Iran, not telling what we're doing. Hit more sites, take out more leaders. Take out people maybe who aren't even actual leaders, but tied to leaders until they say, okay, what do you need? What, how do we make this end? And they're not going to do it publicly. Iran today said we're going to keep the straight mind. No, no. Ships will go through the mines. Through the straight. There'll be mines. They have submersibles that have mines on them. They, they ran. You should run this video, Steve. It doesn't matter if our tankers or our ships are going to escort tankers through the, through the strait. These guys can go under the water with submarines. There's a long video of thousands of these things that they have ready to deploy. So killing 14 mine laying ships isn't going to do the trick either. No one in their right mind is going to take a crew and 300 members through that strait if they think they're going to die. So elevate.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, so you're saying elevate. The problem is let Cooper and General Kane, Admiral Cooper, General Kane, UNLEASH Unleash them.

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Help.

[Steve Bannon]

Continue to pound these guys until. Until you rain hell on them. Until you drive them to the negotiating table to start. And part of the negotiation is some negotiation with some sort of American involvement in their oil resources to maximize cash flow. Would you demand a regime change of that? Are you fine with the ayatollah, the mullahs and IRGC being your partners?

[Eric Bolling]

Steve, Steve, why are we in the business? We a regime change. Every country, every communist country, every radical fanatical religious government around the world. No, this is about oil. You can call it about nukes. You could call whatever you want. This is about oil. North Korea has nukes. We're not regime changing there either. Right, so this is about crude oil. We solve our own problem very, very easily and very quickly by doing what you and I have been talking about for six days now. And they have the solution, but they continue to put these temporary fix on a hemorrhage. And by the way, it's not just temporary fixes. You don't have.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, but you don't have. Hang on. But you don't have. I know, but you don't have a. You're assuming you have a partner to negotiate with. We got a partner in Venezuela because we took out the top guy and we had cut a deal with this underling that she's going to run the deal with those guys and we're not going to barely make any changes. We're going to be partners. And she bought off on that. And that's why Maduro's in a prison, in a federal prison in New York City or in Brooklyn. And, and she's running the deal and we're trying to get to the beginning of working out what you're talking about. You. You've got to take it. You're gonna have to take a stick. There's not enough carrots out there to get these guys to come. You're gonna have to a bigger stick than you have now to get them to the negotiating table. Do you agree with that or you think they're. You think they're just gonna. All sudden it's gonna be nirvana. And yes, let's be in business with the Americans.

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[Mike Lindell]

Correct.

[Eric Bolling]

They're not. So you need both. You need the carrot and the stick. And the stick is clearly our military is badass and they'll kick the living day, continue to do a. Pound them, pound all their top people, pound the families of their top people. Sorry, it's war. And then they will finally start to see. And then you Come in and say, look, you, Iran are going to be way more wealthy from this deal. Not less, way more wealthy. They're producing 3 million barrels a day. We're saying we're going to get you to seven. We're just going to buy the oil first.

[Steve Bannon]

A more wealthy apocalyptic, apocalyptic theocracy. I'll hold that for another day before I let you go. Hang on, I'm gonna get to the mess.

[Eric Bolling]

Do you think if we regime change that's permanent? No, no,

[Steve Bannon]

here's okay, hang on for a second before I let you go. You're a New York City guy. You were in the pits there for 12 years. The Mercantile Exchange, I believe. And then you've been to Fox guy. Am I not correct that our problem has never been not our problem, The United States of America. And all this happy talk you see on thing 47, I was there, my kid brother was there, my daughter was there. So we get skinned in this game. And all this happy talk I hear from all, they're awful. The problem was never there. It is a problem. Not the problem. The problem we have in your beloved New York City today. You've got a mayor doing the iftar dinner at Gracie Mansion and everybody's sitting on a rug praying the Muslim prayers, right? They go down to one of the fire stations, I think in New York City, one of the fire stations that was the most that responded most to 9, 11. And they got the prayer works right there in the front because they understand the symbols of dominance today in a budget crisis. The OMB director can't go down and talk because he's fasting for Ramadan. Is that not the problem in this country? We have an Islamic invasion of this country full stop and there's many people trying to divert our attention and say, no, no, no, the problem's in the Middle East. Problem ain't in the Middle East. The Middle east. And we started thinking was a sideshow in the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow. Eric Bolling, your thoughts?

[Eric Bolling]

I think you're 100% right. We've been talking about this forever, Steve. I actually got called to the office at Fox and I want to say 2007 or so because I was talking about Sharia creep way back then. So it's a theory that the, the Muslim, the fanatical Muslims will plant themselves and just spread out, start to grow. They've done it in Dearborn, Michigan. They've done it in Minneapolis, Minnesota. They're very actively and blatantly doing it, thumbing their nose at, at us all in New York City. They tried to do it in Texas, as you point out now, they tried to move the program to Florida. You're 100 million percent right. I mean, that is very important that we, we, we stop that. We had a chance to stop it 10 years ago, 15 years ago, and the woke mob took over and said we were racist and we're bigoted by targeting this one group. Well, this one group happens to be the only group that is willing to sacrifice their own lives to kill Israelis and Americans. So I think you're right. We need to really educate the American population of how dangerous this will be. Remember, no go zones. No go zones. I was. You can't. No go zones on Fox. What do you mean all of a sudden? London, Paris, cities around Europe.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it. They banned Raheem. Kassam was working for me at Breitbart. Breitbart, London, they banned him from Fox because he came out and said that. And Frank Gaffney's been banned in perpetuity because they said the facts about no go zones in the cities in England and in Netherlands, Amsterdam, everything. Anyway, Eric, we gotta go. I'm informed by the way, by the engine room in New York City that we have some of our brightest minds. Informs me Bannon, that is City hall, he had the prayer rugs down. They're in your grill, folks. See what you see because they're taking over here in the United States while we're diverted now on this. You know the opportunity cost because what we spend two thirds of the show, as we must on because we're in an active shooting war right now. Bowling, where do people go to get your show, all your content?

[Eric Bolling]

This has been an amazing at, Eric. Bowling everywhere or the edge on YouTube. But see, just have folks tune in

[Mike Lindell]

a little bit earlier.

[Eric Bolling]

They'll see me lead into you at 4 o' clock into your 5 o' clock show on Real America's Voice where we're getting it done.

[Steve Bannon]

It's amazing. If I was more organized for the afternoon show, we would do more handovers. I want to do a handover with Eric every day. But every day. The morning show I got down overnight and early in the morning from pre dawn, I got the morning show ready. Afternoon show, I'm always scrambling. Bowling, we love you. You've given great observations here. It's only you're a street guy and that's what we need now. President Trump.

[Eric Bolling]

Love you, brother. Love your following as well.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you, brother. Let's go and pile into his new podcast. Okay, we've had, we've been privileged to have two of the biggest hammers in this country on this show frequently. Rosemary Jenks, who started up a new group about immigration accountability, and Mike Howe, who helped organize this mass deportation coalition, is leading it Politico today. Massive story. And guess what? This is predicated upon numbers, just like Dr. Jeffrey Tucker was predicated upon the math. What is really going on in the MAGA coalition and what do MAGA folks really want to put their shoulder to the wheel and fight for one of them. Take your number two principal out. Maybe you don't have to because it's not going to surprise you. Mass deportations Short commercial break Back in the war room with Jenks and Hal next.

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[Eric Bolling]

War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, when you see these scoops coming from Axios, particularly Mark Caputo, and they're about White House, they never get refuted. They're leaking directly to him for a reason. They're trying to run it up the flagpole to the because that's the insiders. That's why we send you so often to Axios, because that's kind of the insiders, the conventional wisdom Insiders news site of Mike Allen and Jim Vanderhay. The other day they had the conference and you know, it was from James Blair, the political director. And these were almost like quotes they were putting up there. You cannot say the words mass deportation anymore. We cannot do that. Just like the Bobby Kennedy thing on vaccine. These are certain words you cannot speak between now and election day. Well, two heroes of this audience, Rosemary Jenks and Mike Howe, beg to differ, and they begged to differ about mass. So Politico today had a massive story. One of their top stories was about the Mass Deportation Coalition. But the important thing is that this is predicated upon Rosemary Jenks, her organization, getting in and going and seeing some math. Rosemary Jenks joins us. Talk about this poll. Why did you decide with the limited resources you have to go and do it? And what does it tell us, ma'? Am?

[Rosemary Jenks]

You know, Steve, it's interesting because being in Washington, D.C. we get our heads patted all the time by politicians who say, you know, it's just not popular. Mass deportations, they're just, we, we can't do those. You know, we're going to focus on the worst of the worst. Everyone agrees that criminals have to go. We're sick and tired of being patted on the head. So we decided to go out and get the proof that Americans, not just Trump voters, especially Trump voters, but Americans, actually want mass deportations. We all knew that President Trump was elected on the promise of mass deportations, on the promise of shutting down Biden's border crisis. God bless him, he shut down the border. That is great, but it's not enough. We've got to reverse the damage. And this poll is absolutely clear that mass deportations have to be part of that, a major part of it. I mean, 74% of Trump voters said that they are more likely to vote Republican in the 2026 midterms if President Trump exceeds a million deportations in 2026, that's huge. And by the way, 53% of Hispanics agreed with that. And then you get into all Americans, All Americans want, 66% want all illegal aliens deported. And 59% of Hispanics agree. This is not some fringe issue. This is what we elected President Trump to do, and we have to do it. That's just all there is to it.

[Steve Bannon]

The numbers 66 to the American, two thirds of the American people. Here's why people intuitively believe in the sovereignty of their country. They want people here who are citizens or came the right way. Right. They just, they, they are the ones that want to repel the invasion most. Why is that? I'm gonna throw out some random examples. Because the invasion of the illegal aliens has destroyed, particularly for working class and lower middle class people and Hispanic Americans and African Americans. It's destroyed their medical system, it's destroyed their schools. It's rife with crime. Their neighborhoods are gone. They're living with it. That's why they demand it, and that's why they're prepared to vote with us. And the business class hates it because the business class likes. They say it all the time. What's 1 or 2% of GDP? Because they're here and they're. Everything they get, they spend right away. And the apartment rents go up, everything goes up. And the labor gets. So our margins, we got higher revenues and we got lower operating costs. What's not to like? Because we've got higher stock prices. So you guys just have to suck on it. And the American people say, we don't want to suck on it. This is one of the reasons President Trump was brought back and won overwhelmingly with the entire deep state, the media, the culture, again, him, because he listened to the call from the American people once again. Just give me those numbers, because these are in an era where 50 plus one vote gets you a win. 50% plus one vote. These are monumental landslide blowout numbers, ma'.

[Mike Lindell]

Am.

[Rosemary Jenks]

Well, let me tell you one other statistic here, Steve. Speaking of fairness, we asked voters, is it fair or unfair for the wealthy to profit from illegal labor while Americans have to compete with it? 80%. 80% said it is unfair. 72% of Hispanics agreed. All of this data is in the poll. You know, again, 74% of Republican Trump voters are more likely to vote Republican in the 2026 midterms if the President exceeds a million deportations a year, which is what the Mass Deportation Coalition is all about. We are trying to give him policy options to do exactly that. 66% of all Americans want every illegal alien deported. It's just impossible to get around these numbers, Steve. And you know, this is Independents agree, Democrats agree with most of this, including the deportations for everyone. So, you know, we've got to get this done. And as you know, the midterm elections are going to be turnout elections. We've got to turn out Republican voters. And this is one of the key issues that will turn them out.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, no. Oh, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. I read the report. I saw this news stories from the, from the amazing Capitol Hill Club meeting about transparency of drug price. All a bunch of lobbyists crap. This is a turnout election. You know, who understands that? The DSA and the Working Family Party and the Mandami set. You can see it down in Texas. That's where they put a presidential election level. You know, turnout in the primary. They understand they're fighting tooth and nail, going door to door. This is about turnout, the White House, and people think it's about persuadables. What, you know, what? Suburban. Karen, are we going to persuade that we're Nicer and gentler. And the whole thing the other day was how bad the Democrats are. How bad the Democrats, yes, they're terrible. But that ain't going to turn out your base. The base knows how terrible they are. Okay, how, why now? Because that, let me be blunt, that what was Axios reported the other day from the Republican conference down at Doral with Blair was a shot across your bow is a shot across Rosemary's bow. You cannot. They're not talking about. They're going to take Rosemary's poll and back it. They're not saying, hey, you've got every hammer in immigration teaming up with Hal. Now in this coalition, you can't even say the words. We don't even want the, we don't want ads about it. We don't want you to say on the campaign trail, we want Johnson to shut up. All we want him to talk about is the worst of the worst bad hombres. So how are you going to pull this coalition together and make it effective when the business community has already captured, the donors have already captured the message here, sir.

[Mike Howe]

Yeah, we'll meet him in the middle. We're not going to say mass deportations. We're going to frigging scream it across the country with every red blooded American that voted for President Trump to do just that. We understand the battle lines clearly. This is a popular issue. It is a mandate, it is a promise. President Trump said he was going to beat Eisenhower. He can do it. He's got to get commas in the deportation number to get them up to at least a million. We're only at a couple hundred thousand now, but here's the fight. It's special interest in the lobbyists versus the rest of the American people. What, you know, Axios put out there by virtue of the White House. And then Speaker Johnson came and said he had some hiccups about it with Hispanic voters. That's lobbyist talk, okay? That's special interest, saying don't do this or we won't donate to you. It's not about winning votes, it's about winning donations. And I'm sick of seeing D.C. run this way. That is why Patriots are flogging in record numbers to the mass deportation coalition. That's why the numbers that Rosemary put out put an end to this debate once and for all. We shouldn't have had to prove the obvious, but she went ahead and did it. Now we're moving forward. By April 1, we'll have the playbook, a menu of options to get to at least 1 million deportations. And if the administration tells the special interest in the lobbyists and the business community to kick rocks, we're riding with the people, they will win the midterms, and that's what we're going to help them do.

[Steve Bannon]

But hang on. Okay, well, President Trump will say, hey, look, because of show of force that I had, particularly in the early days of the administration, the center for Immigration Studies calculates or backs into, yeah, there was a couple hundred thousand that actually went through the formal process of us sending them out of here, but you had almost 1.5 or 1.6 or 2 million that left in their own regard, don't you? Deportation is a deportation. Can't you argue that if you have another show of force and you just make life so miserable for the illegal aliens here versus American citizens that if they get a couple of million that just throw in the towel and say I'm out of here, that also counts as a deportation. Mike, I'll start with you. And then, Rosemary.

[Mike Howe]

Yeah, so right off the bat, only about 100,000 have left by virtue of the CBP1 app and the payments for self deport. That number hasn't been released. It's only been referenced, you know, vaguely in press releases. And so everything else is just an estimate. And you know, the White House certainly has taken those estimates and run with them because the real numbers are actually quite low as real deportations. You're right, though. And it goes like this. Logically, if the deportation numbers massively increase, then the self deportation numbers will follow, but only in that order. And so you're not going to get millions of self deportations without millions of deportations. That is what the coalition at phase two deport is focused on.

[Steve Bannon]

Rosemary, your thoughts on the, on the, on the folks who just decided to throw in the towel and go home. Did they count?

[Rosemary Jenks]

They, they do count and, but then not toward the million formal deportations that we're trying to get to, because Mike's absolutely right. Unless illegal aliens believe that they're going to be apprehended and formally removed, they're not going to leave. Now, part of our policy mission is to give the administration options, including work site enforcement, to make them unemployable, Social Security, no match letters, things that the IRS can do, things that the Labor Department can do. All of these welfare, taking away welfare benefits, all of this stuff makes it harder for illegal aliens to live in this country. So as they're seeing their, in their chances of being arrested and deported increase, then they start thinking, well, Maybe I better leave on my own. The goal here, I mean, remember, you know, 10 to 15 million illegal aliens came here just under the Biden administration. We have to get them out. It's not going to be an easy thing, but we've got to start with the formal deportations getting, as Mike says, commas in them.

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[Steve Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, Rosemary, so where do people go to get the poll? And I want people to spend time in this poll. And if Grace and Mo can help push it out and Elizabeth can help push it out, I'd appreciate it. Where do people go? Rosemary?

[Rosemary Jenks]

Yeah, all the entire poll, all the supporting documents, they're [e-mail] right on our homepage iaproject.org if you follow us on x@ia project, you'll see that we've been putting up screenshots of the actual poll. So it's all there

[Steve Bannon]

in one. April is the day you're going to drop a big policy set of alternatives for the. For the White House.

[Rosemary Jenks]

Yep, that is the plan.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, thank you. So, Mike Howell, where do people go if they want to sign up and join the coalition? You've got a who's who You've brought together all the power players in this. Folks have been fighting this for years and new folks that want to jump into the fight. So where do folks go?

[Mike Howe]

Yeah. Check us out on X at phase two, Deport. You'll find a link to a website where you can plug in your email. This thing's going to go national. We need people to join, spread the word. We got to show DC that there are numbers behind it. You can't argue with it, and there are people behind it. So join. Join us and we'll get these numbers with commas in them.

[Steve Bannon]

No, it's just like Tucker did on the maha. This is. These are. These are blowout numbers. I mean, they're. They're actually shocking because you can tell that's where the American people are. And they want their country back. They want their country back. I can tell you down in Texas, these people are fighting the good fight. They want their country back, and they're not prepared to give it up. Folks, thank you so much. Just great. Great work. Amazing. Also, if we can push out Grace and Mo and Elizabeth, the article in Politico today, you should read it in its entirety. And they got a bunch of links in there. Go to the links. Okay. Speaking of Texas, we're going to return to the Lone Star State. Let's go ahead and let it rip.

[Brandon Hall]

I won't listen to them. Pusheria in our schools. Brandon Hall, a Republican North Texas State

[Rosemary Jenks]

Board of Education member, started Wednesday's public

[Steve Bannon]

hearing by refusing to listen to comments from Shama Zion, who works for the Austin chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations. Governor Greg Abbott classified CARE as a terrorist organization.

[Brandon Hall]

Point of order, Mr. Chairman.

[Steve Bannon]

What's your point of order?

[Brandon Hall]

CARE stated goal is to push Sharia law in the state of Texas, and now they're here to do it in our schools. And for that reason, Governor Abbott designated CARE as a foreign terrorist organization. Can we have the leader of a foreign terrorist organization testify for the State Board of Education?

[Steve Bannon]

As we've talked about twice before, the testifiers here today have a First amendment right to testify in front of this body.

[Brandon Hall]

Can I ask another question, sir? Sure, if she is here, signed up on behalf of the organization that was designated as a foreign terrorist organization. And this is one that not only the FBI called a Hamas front group, but they also said that they had suspended formal ties to this organization or formal contact with them in 2008. And the governor's proclamation states they can't even own property in the state of Texas. So I understand the individual Right to the First Amendment. But does that also apply if they're here on behalf of an organization?

[Steve Bannon]

So I've consulted with legal and the answer is yes, they can testify they have the First Amendment right in this context of public hearing. And so much as we do not go into vulgar content and things of that nature. And if we do, then we'll readdress it then. But hopefully for all testimony today, we will not go there.

[Brandon Hall]

Okay, I won't listen to them. Pusheria in our schools.

[Rosemary Jenks]

Good morning.

[Steve Bannon]

My name is Shaima Zayan. I'm the operations manager. Let me have it. Let me have it. I don't, I'm totally, completely confused. Brandon hall joins us. Brandon, can you first introduce yourself to the audience? Your first appearance on War Room, the first of many. What is your position? Why, why were you even. Why are they even having a local newscast about you? What is your formal position?

[Brandon Hall]

Yeah, Good morning, Steve. I appreciate you having me on and drawing attention to this important issue. I'm a member of the Texas State Board of Education. And right now we are actually rewriting our history standards and social studies standards. And so CARE came to try to influence those been designated as a foreign terrorist organization. And that's why this is getting so much attention. I think it's been a huge wake up call for people to see we have a foreign terrorist organization coming to influence the state Board of Education. I'm glad people are awake and I'm glad you're highlighting it,

[Steve Bannon]

Brandon. But here's what I don't understand. You asked and this is why the audience's jaws kind of dropping. You laid out a pretty simple thing. The governor of the state of Texas and now the governor of Florida. So arguably two of the three, if you take Florida, Texas and California, two of the most important and powerful states in this union, have designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations. I might add, the guys taking incomings from the Iranians today, like UAE and others have designated this as terrorist organizations. Why is a terror the answer of whoever the guy was, the lawyer, whatever. Why is a terrorist organization designated by Gulf emirates designated by the president? States has started it country by country, right on the Muslim Brotherhood. But the state of Florida, Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott have designated CAIR as a terrorist organization. So why is a terrorist organization in an official capacity able to come and to put their poison out to the Texas Board of education, which has $100 billion annual budget, is in charge, I think, of 6 million young Texan students. How can that happen, sir?

[Brandon Hall]

Steve, I'M just as baffled as you are. And I'm sure the rest of the audience and like you said, care. We're not being hyperbolic here. When we call CAIR terrorists, I mean, this is a group with such substantial ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and known connections to terrorism that, as you said, even the UA has designated that they're even too radical for other Muslim countries. And so why are they influencing the Texas State Board of Education while they would have no influence over me? I mean, there are people there, certainly the Democrats, at least, that will listen to them. And so they will have some level of influence. And I'm asking the exact same question. When they come to testify, they don't sign up as individuals. They're testifying on behalf of that organization. That's an fto. And so if we can't stop them from testifying on behalf of a foreign terrorist organization, I'm not sure what kind of weight that designation even carries. And so this is going to be something that we're going to be fighting as hard as we can. And you know, groups like CAIR and the Islamists, they understand something that conservatives and even the church has neglected for a long time, which is that if you capture the minds of our next generation, and like you mentioned, we have five and a half million students in Texas. We lose Texas, as you say on your show all the time. We lose the country. CARE knows that, and that's why they're working their way into our Texas public schools. The barbarians are in the gate and we have to fight as hard as possible to make sure that they don't influence our children and we protect our kids from Islamization of Texas.

[Steve Bannon]

Brandon, I know it looks like you didn't sit through the testimony, but we had Julia Pickren on the other day. Can you just reiterate to our audience or just tell us the types of changes you're talking about? And Texas is so important because the way Texas education goes, many of the states, particularly red states, follow you on schoolbooks. And basically the contents in the schoolbooks when you're talking about focusing on American history and the 250th anniversary of our Declaration of Independence, really kicking off the war that won us our independence. What are the Islamists, the terrorist organizations? What are they proposing about Texas and American history, sir?

[Brandon Hall]

Yeah, that's a great question, Steve. And like you say, whatever Texas does with our social studies standards, that's going to determine what the market does as far as textbooks, we'll have 20 plus other states that'll follow Texas. And so again, Karen knows how important that is. The first time that I ever saw them come to the state Board of Education, they came to protest my appointment with another member who you had on the other day, Julie Pickering. We both appointed David Barton as an expert content advisor. He's an esteemed historian, of course. He gets attacked for his Christian perspective and highlighting the factual Christian roots of Texas in America. And so CARE came the first time because they wanted to shut that down and silence the voice of all of the Texans who want to see factual history about the Christian roots of our nation. And then they've come back since. And like member Pickering pointed out on your show before, I mean, they want us to take the Mayflower Compact out of history. You know, they really anything that highlights the Christian roots because of course we want to indoctrinate students. We just want to show them the truth, which is that America was founded as a Christian nation. Texas is a Christian state. Our founding fathers and the great men and women throughout history have been Christians. And to this day, the majority of Texans are Christians. And you know, if CARE doesn't like the fact that we're teaching that factual history, if they don't like the Christian roots and foundations of this country, then I would suggest we should be buying them tickets, you know, to the Middle east or one of the other 50 plus Muslim countries that we have, instead of allowing them to try to change our history and revise it when Islam has played minimal, you know, basically zero influence in Texas and in America.

[Steve Bannon]

You know, I want to. We just got a couple of minutes, but I want you to take a minute or so. We had a guy we know from London that's an expert on how London fell, and he came over in November and he spent about a week and he contacted us. He says, hey, I want to tell you guys something that given the same time period, Texas is so much more advanced, the Islamic invasion is so much more advanced because they're more sophisticated, they have more money than they did in London 15 or 20 years ago. He said, this is dire since we moved the show and for the primaries down to Texas. I will tell people it's much farther than I thought. This is a serious invasion backed by countries that hate us, money that hates us in the business community, some of the business communities, either the halal food or the real estate ventures, et cetera. But this is an emergency and we've lost New York city. I think 70% of Mondami voters were foreign born. You've lost New York City. And you got the prayer rugs in city hall. You got the prayer rugs in the fire stations of the heroes that went on 9, 11. So just your perspective. How far deep is this in Texas, and what are Texans in your mind prepared to do to stop it?

[Brandon Hall]

Well, I think Texans are prepared to do whatever is necessary to stop this. And, you know, that's who I represent, is the hardworking men and women of the state of Texas who are very concerned to see the influence of Islam creeping into our schools. Nothing could be more important than stopping the attempted Islamic conquest of Texas public schools. And it's not only important for Texans, it's important for your audience around the country, because whatever happens here is going to determine the direction the rest of the country takes. But as I said before, the barbarians are in the gates. We've already seen many examples, even during Ramadan. I'm already getting lots of reports that, you know, we have schools that are facilitating Ramadan observance and setting aside prayer room for students. And, you know, it's always really interesting because the leftists who ally themselves with the Islamists will tell you that they want secular schools, but in reality, that's a lie. They want anything but Christianity in our schools because they've allowed the Islamists to come in. They always want to talk about the separation of church and state. Let's talk about the separation of mosque and state. But we have to push this out again. Islamists understand if they capture the mind of our students that they can take over this state and this country. And we have to preserve our way of life in Texas because Islam is not compatible with Texas culture and values in our history. And our history is so special as Texans and Americans. And it's something that we have a responsibility to pass down. It's a gift that we have to pass down to our students. That's what we're doing in our social studies standards. And actually, I'm about to be a father for the first time. And so this fight's become so much more personal to me because I want my child to grow up in the same Texas that I lived in growing up. And to grow up in a free country in America that's not influenced by this hostile foreign takeover of Islamic.

[Steve Bannon]

Brandon, we got 30 seconds. We gotta bounce. Where do people go to find out more about you and your fight on the Texas Education Board, sir?

[Brandon Hall]

Yeah, see, they can follow me at Brandon Hall TX on X. Brandon hall tx. Thank you so much for having me.

[Steve Bannon]

Amazing, sir. You have a lot of people to have your Back. Amazing. Amazing. See these young people standing in the breach. That's where the fight is. Fights in Texas and New York City. Short commercial break we rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, you know, the speculators are in oil. The Brent, which is really the world's oil, is 101 bucks. West Texas Intermediate, I think it's 96. So they're in it right now trying to drive the price up. Remember the Gulf. Amherst would love to have the price of oil go up. President Trump's been fighting for $50 and he had it at $50 a barrel. Patriot Mobile, you see Brandon Hall. We're going to have dozens and dozens of folks on here from Texas to go through the fight there. The fight is in Texas. We have to win that fight now. We have to win this fight in the Persian Gulf. That's reality, folks. But New York City, Texas, we got to win it. We don't have a choice. You're losing. I hope you understand you're losing your country right in front of your eyes. And look at the collaborators. Anybody that's against mass deportations elected with, with Republican grassroots support is a. You're a collaborator, full stop. This is how the country got in the shape it is with the Rhino Republican Party, right? They were the controlled opposition. It took two, of course, the Democrats. And remember, the Democrats support in Texas. The Democrats support Everything Cares talking about to change the textbooks in Texas. They voted for. The Democratic members of that board support it. That's the heart of their party. It's a red green alliance. It's radical neo Marxism coupled with jihadism. And you can see that it's evident. You can't divert. You divert your eyes from it. You don't want to deal with it. You're going to lose your country. And we're in the process of doing it. You don't have a better state than Texas. You don't have a better group of grassroots organizations than Texas. And they will tell you right now, this a fight. We're going to win it because we have to win it. But it's a fight. Look at, we're going to start delving down in Florida, the Tampa area. Come on, man, you got serious problems in Florida. Ron DeSantis, who I've always said I think is an Excellent Governor, Ron DeSantis is all over this. Ron DeSantis does not come out and say I'm a designate Muslim Brotherhood and cares terrorist organizations for his Health. So first off, Patriot Mobile, 972 Patriot. It's a Christian company that backs your Christian values. Jenny Story, Amazing. What a great grassroots organizer. Glenn Story, Just an incredibly high energy guy. Amazing phone service. Go check it out. Today, 972 Patriot. Just call their call center, talk to one of their customer service reps, a U.S. citizen with an East Texas accent. Talk to them about doing the switch to one of the best phone companies out there and one that supports your values. Also. All family pharmacy we talk about, we had Dr. Tucker on here. We talk about medical freedom. Well, you don't have medical freedom, if not just big pharma, but the distribution system of big Pharma. All the middlemen, the McKessons of the world and then all the pharmacies, these massive pharmacy chains that are going to tell you what your medical freedom is. All family pharmacy has turned that on its head. AllFamilyPharmacy.com, promo code Bannon10, you get 10% off plus some of the overhead savings they have because they're online and don't have huge footprint, physical footprint they pass on to you. Now they have licensed physicians and pharmacists that will deal with you and make sure that everything you get, you need and that it's all done 100% complying with all the state regulations. So go to allfamilypharmacy.com promo code BANNON10 and do it today. Mike Lindell. Let's play. We got a clip from Mike Lindell. Want to play it? Then we're bringing Mike Lindell.

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