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Jack Posobiec
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Banff
Steve Bannon
but It's Palm Sunday 29th March. Ever Alert 2026 we have an all star cast. Really want to thank people for changing their plans with their family to join us. Kathy Finale know we got to bounce one thing and I'm going to get back to Eric Prince on the same topic. And Thayer, you would not put the, the Boxer, the USS Boxer or the Tripoli inside the Persian Gulf to actually launch an amphibious, the Marine Expeditionary Unit attack on either Carg island or these other islands, would you? Is that still too dangerous in your mind? Because I remember, hey, back when we were, there was no chance you'd ever put a capital ship in there.
Captain Jim Fennell
Right? That's one of the lessons from Desert Storm. We had, you know, admirals that didn't want to put carriers up there as well. So it's something that's dangerous. It has to be, you know, well thought out, well planned. And right now, since we're not transiting through there, the last thing I do is send an ARM through as the first ship of, to test that. We have other ways to test that before we would put something up there. So I think the ARG is there for contingency and as the National Security Advisor said, maximum maximizing optionality. That's, I think, what's happening there.
Steve Bannon
Do you see that this week? Just to give people a heads up for Holy Week, you see, and it continued as every night. And I don't think people fully appreciate it. Admiral Cooper over at centcom, they are pounding away and I think they said they had 3,500 targets left, having done over 11,000 already. You anticipate this week is going to be continued maximum pressure by centcom?
Captain Jim Fennell
Yes, I do. I think they're going to continue to go after every one of those main four target areas. And so it's not going to stop. We haven't stopped. And when you think about numbers of targets, go back to the Serbian campaign and General Wesley Clark and his talk about 2000 targets. When he first started, he had less than, much less than that. And things weren't going well. He said, I need 2,000 targets. He pulled that out of the air. Well, we're well beyond that. This is a major event and, and this is a big country and it's got a lot of military capability. So it's not an easy task, but it is a task that can be achieved if we stay on the course. Let me just say one last thing to Eric. I respect Eric Prince.
Steve Bannon
Go ahead.
Captain Jim Fennell
And my non sequitur piece was just to say I don't think there's a direct correlation happening literally in the Strait of Hormuz. I'm saying what we're dealing with now is what we're dealing with now. Nobody's talking about running the wardroom, Iran.
Steve Bannon
We are shipmates in the ward room of the war room, so it's fine. Normally no shop in mess, but here we talk shop. You have a shipmate. Tell us about you had a dear friend, a Texan, a real American, that passed away recently. Tell us about that.
Captain Jim Fennell
Yes. Markham Dossett, commander, U.S. navy Reserve, retired. He and I served together out in Japan aboard the Kitty Hawk. He would come out and serve with me in his reserve role. He also served in combat roles in Afghanistan. He was a seventh generation Texan, a rancher, a cattleman, owned a big ranch and had a beautiful wife and two sons and was well respected in the community, in law enforcement history, knew the history of Texas. And unfortunately, Markham was riding his horse this week and something happened, spooked his horse and he was killed in the event. But there's a picture on the. On the left there from when I was there last year with him. We spent some time with him. Really just salt of the earth American, and somebody will miss dearly and really bedrock of America and Texas society. So I just appreciate you allowing me to remember him, especially on Palm Sunday. He'll be buried Wednesday out in Waco, and we can get details. If somebody wants to watch that. It'll be online.
Steve Bannon
I'll be online.
Captain Jim Fennell
We'll.
Steve Bannon
We'll stream it. If it's going to be online, the worm will stream it. Captain Fennell, thank you so much for taking time away. Appreciate you. Always. Although board room, you're going to have a little discussion. Thank you, sir. Erik Prince, I want to really appreciate you doing this on a Sunday, given how busy you are. I know you. You're very selective about your media hits and only when you feel you have something to say. Any closing observations. And I, one more time, want you to talk about what happened earlier today, because we don't have all the details. Harnwell is going to join us. Posobec is going to join us. We do know the Italian government, I think, has called over the Israeli ambassador, and they're quite livid about this. I know the. What I'm hearing is the Vatican's very upset about it. Your closing thoughts on where we are, particularly with Captain Fennell's assessment of where CENTCOM is on this straight. Or Hormuz and what happened in. At the church or what didn't happen today at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, Sir.
Erik Prince
First, you know, look, CENTCOM undoubtedly over the last two years had all their target sets that they wanted to hit in Yemen to make the Houthis comply and to open up the Babel Mandab Unlimited. The only reason that was opened over the last year is because the Houthis allowed it. It was not done by coercion by centcom. So my concern about CENTCOM saying yes, we have another 3,500 targets to start strike, that's the ones that they think they know of. And my comment about the captain saying, well, things are quiet and they're not really shooting back from the Straits of Hormuz. As I read history, the Germans did
Steve Bannon
not engage
Erik Prince
until the troops hit the beach and the Japanese did not open up on Iwo Jima or Okinawa until the troops hit the beach. And so I really hope no one is considering some kind of a forced entry there because it will be a significant casualty event and a massive blow. And I just hope that the administration is not going to give the enemy the fight that the enemy is expecting because it's not going to go well. Now on even more serious topic on Palm Sunday, look whether it's some mid level bureaucrat that went off the rails to block the cardinal from going to mass, I'm told. I just read that he had asked for four people to go to the church to live stream mass from there and they even barred him from doing that. That's an enormous problem. And it's Israel showing a disdain for Christianity in the Middle east. And it's ridiculous.
Steve Bannon
Do you think now because I've always been against a two state solution, but now that because of the Greater Israel Project, whether they like it or not, we have a two state solution within Gaza with Qatar going to underwrite it and the Turks going to provide security. And the Turks I hear every day are more adamant than ever that they're going to supply security for it. Although the Netanyahu government says it will never happen, isn't it time that we start to have a discussion? If we got a two state solution, a de facto two state solution, don't we need a Thursday, don't we need a Christian state in Jerusalem to take the Christian quarter and you know, maybe a quarter up to Bethlehem, but to make sure that this type of thing can't happen in the future? I mean, shouldn't the Christians take a more active role in the management of the Holy Land, Sir?
Erik Prince
I guess because of the sharp elbows of the other groups in the Middle east, the Christians are going to have to do something, yes, much more sharper in demand for that kind of territorial autonomy. The problem is what is economically Viable with that many fences and barriers and guardianships. So yeah, they managed to work together under the last century or two of kind of Ottoman light rule there. It's a mess and the IDF has certainly made it worse, not better.
Steve Bannon
Well, I'm going to make a proposal as we move forward because there is work behind the scenes going in this. I want to make a proposal that Erik Prince be the interim. I can't think of a bigger throwback to the Crusades in modern times than Erik Prince. So I think that the Crusade type of spirit. The Crusade type of spirit is the spirit we need here. And so I'm proposing that the. The interim head of the new Christian state of Jerusalem be. Eric, I am not second.
Erik Prince
I am not seconding that nomination.
Steve Bannon
Thank you.
Erik Prince
Blessed Easter, Steve.
Steve Bannon
If drafted, I will if I draft a happy good Palm Sunday. Where do people get you, sir? If they're looking to track you down for some of your commentary during the week between War room and the War
Erik Prince
room seems to be the only consistent place I come and. And sound off. But I also say things on Twitter now and then at Real Eric D Prints.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you here on Palm Sunday.
Erik Prince
You bet.
Steve Bannon
Take care. Okay, we're gonna get. We're gonna get that draft movement going on. Eric Prince, he's got the crusader spirit is what we need now. Dr. Bradley Thayer. Got you. And Brandon Weickert. Tell me, give me your assessment. You heard, you heard the captain. You heard Erik Prince. You've read all the details come up. You've done all your sources. Where are we on Palm Sunday?
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, as Rubio identified him on March on Friday, great progress towards the four goals that he identified at that time. Elimination of the Navy, elimination of the Air Force, missile and drone production and then missile launchers. But, Steve, there are three big pulls for escalation or drivers of escalation here that we haven't discussed yet. And that's first, the nuclear issue, the highly enriched uranium and Iran's nuclear facilities. Secondly, as Eric and Jim were talking about, the Strait and Kharg island, major pull for escalation. And lastly, leadership. Are we doing regime change here as Israel wants, or are we not doing regime change? So Rubio lays out on Friday four goals which are eminently achievable. Right. We can meet those goals within the next two weeks or four weeks. The time frame.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. And those goals, those goals have been very consistent from. We got away from unconditional surrender of the first couple. Those have been very consistent, although noticeably they had a fifth, which was power projection onto the Persian people. That's now off. But those four goals have been very consistent with centcom's Admiral Cooper's plan and the Joint Chiefs plan. Correct. And we're, we're methodically going down the defanging and decline of that. Correct?
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Absolutely. But the pulls for escalation or the drivers of escalation are in those three big areas. And when we look at the reports about the 15 point plan that President, the Trump administration has advanced, it seems from news reports that the nuclear component there is very significant. So a major pull again for escalation in this conflict if it is to come. Right. As you said yesterday, if we meet Rubio's four goals and we toss the keys to everyone else in the region. Right. So the Gulf sheikdoms and the Israelis and other actors can do what they want. But if there is going to be escalation, the nuclear is certainly a logical driver of escalation, as is Jim again and Eric was discussing the straight when
Steve Bannon
you say but hang on, you say hang on. But implicit in the four objectives of CENTCOM is the from ballistic missiles to actually having an operating any type of operating even research facility that's all going to be smashed to smithereens or as president loves to say, total obliteration. What could be you know, now they're talking about now Mark Levin because remember Mark Levin, those guys don't really care about the nuclear material. What they want is American combat troops inserted into this situation because once they get American combat troops into this situation, they know we're going to be there for a long time. They want another this is the same exact crowd that wanted the Iraq wanted combat troops into Iraq and came up and essentially bald faced lie the same guy. Steisen, Levin, Hannity, all of Murdoch's crew, the Wall Street Journal, Paul Gigaud, that entire crew, folks, they looked you in the eye and told you that the Iraqis are gonna be throwing roses in the street welcoming, you know, Jim Mattis, who was a general and General Kelly and others as they drove up with the army on one flank and the Marines on the other. The drive to Baghdad. We were going to be welcomed as liberators. We were going to be welcomed because there were so many Jeffersonian Democrats just sitting there waiting to impose democracy onto the Iraqi people and live happily ever after. That was a. Because we had to do it because of weapons of mass destruction, nuclear and other. And that turned out to be not a miscalculation. Everybody can get things wrong. Oh that was wrong. You know that was a wait for it. Bald faced lie. Bald faced lie. And do we ever remember the honored dead of the Iraq war? Was it to combine I think 7 or 8,000 not counting the contractors, the honored dead. Back in a moment.
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Jack Posobiec
Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Posobics here with an update when we get to Jack in just a moment. Brandon Weickert, we've had in the wardroom, in the wardroom of the War Room. We've had a little bit of heated discussion this morning on Palm Sunday about exactly where we stand. I can say that Erik Prince and Captain Fennell are not on the same page. Your assessment, sir?
Brandon Weickert
Well, I think that Mr. Prince is probably more on the money here in my personal opinion. And let me just give you a little inject here. The Royal United Services Instit, which I believe is the oldest think tank in the world and one of the Most respected. They ran a report earlier this week that said that Israel is about a week away from running out of those ARRW interceptors. That's Arrow 2 and Arrow 3. These are the all important, very advanced exoatmospheric interceptors. What that means is they go far, they go long, and they go high into space to knock out incoming missiles and drones that are coming at them as far away as possible. So that is defense in depth that is being negated now. They have drained those supplies, essentially. Another, another part of the report indicates that the US and there's, you can see on the screen, there's my recent article at 1945com. The United States is burning through its THAAD Tomahawk arsenals as well. We've gone through hundreds of tomahawks in about 96 hours alone of the conflict. In terms of the important terminal high area, I'm sorry, High Altitude Area Defense System, These are about $12 billion per system that we have burned through 40% of available THAAD stockpiles, which leaves us with less than, as of this day, less than three weeks of supplies left. So our defensive capabilities, as I warned on this program at the start of the war, our defensive capabilities are constrained to the point of breaking and there are no replenishments coming in. We're already cannibalizing those indopacom stockpile. It's not enough as it turns out. One other inject here. We're talking a lot about target tree, as Matt has said recently, over strategy. Ascentcom is doing their whole General Westmoreland thing, talking about all the thousands of sorties and all the thousands of targets. I think it's important to note that we have no idea how many, not really. We have no idea how many of these underground missile cities there are. And there's a great example here that comes from yesterday. Israel launched an attack on an IRGC base in Yazd. Minutes later, after they claimed they collapsed the tunnel system. Minutes later, Iran fired intermediate range ballistic missiles, IRBMs at Tel Aviv from the same site. So not only are we unlikely to be aware of how many of these missile cities exist, the probability that two and five thousand pound bombs, which are most of the ordinance that we and the Israelis are dropping on these things, the likelihood that we're actually destroying these systems and destroying these tunnel networks is very low. And so this is why we're worried about escalation here because it is very clear that both Israel and the United States are committed to this course of action. The bombing alone is not working. Our interceptors are depleting. The fear now is up. The escalation ladder we go.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. Okay, hang on. But before we go at the escalation ladder, why then hang on. The two guys that have the most politically at stake here, it's not Trump. The two that have most politically at stakeholders are Rubio and J.D. vance. J.D. just went on and said, we got a little while longer. I mean, he couldn't have been more casual about it in this interview. At the same time, he was talking about UFOs and all this other stuff, but he just very casually, we have a little time. He repeated a little time to go, and then this is over. Marco, who is national Security Advisor, he's not just Secretary of State. His national Security advisor, he was adamant on that tarmac that said, hey, this is two to four weeks. We don't need combat troops. We are going to keep this intense air campaign and maybe even make it more intense. Why would they. I understand you don't tell the enemy everything you're doing, but they're really signaling to the American community, to the American people in the international economic community and all of our allies, whether in the Gulf or in Western Europe, that this is a bombing campaign that's not only successful, but it's going to continue on to its conclusion, of which you will have a defanged and declawed Iranian regime. Sir.
Ben Harnwell
Yeah.
Brandon Weickert
Like I've been saying, there's no doubt we're degrading capabilities. I've never denied that. And I think that's what they're probably. Rubio and the administration are probably running off of is because they are aware that this thing could go on for a lot longer than anybody is planning for or that we have the capabilities to sustain. So I think they're probably smartly looking for a narrative frame to say, okay, we've destroyed X amount of targets. We destroyed everything that we know about, so that's. We're done. But that doesn't mean the Iranians are going to let this end. It doesn't mean the Israelis are going to let this. And what I think is going on here is a lot of Hopium, as the kids say today. There's a lot of opium coming out of Rubio and Vance. Because the alternative is, oh, my God, we are. Forgive me. Oh, my gosh, we are stuck in a quagmire that we were not planning for. And so this is how these things play out again, compared to Vietnam, there was a lot of Hopium back then. Everybody was saying, Just a few more thousand we need to take secure Da Nang. And it never worked out according to plan because the enemy gets a vote. The Iranian racing team survived.
Steve Bannon
Do you hang on?
Ben Harnwell
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
It was your initial appearances on here that immediately after that happened, the President called for the CEOs of the top six defense contractors come and have a half a day meeting at the White House. Which is, folks, I will tell you, is not something that is normally done right. That is like, hey, this is serious enough. I want to get you on the room in the Roosevelt Room, look you in the eye. You're going to tell me what reality is. What came out of that is the lead time for these weapons systems and this ammunition, the Tomahawks and all of it, such a long lead time that they can increase production. Huntsville can run 24 hours a day, but it's not going to make a big amount of difference in the short term.
Brandon Weickert
As long as the operational tempo is where it is, or more, there's no way they can catch up. And then we have the added problem, Steve, of most of these weapons rely on rare earth minerals that are sourced from Chinese sources. And the Chinese have already said they're putting on export controls for any system they deem to be used for military development. So, unfortunately, we are now hoist by our own globalist Petard. After 50 years of outsourcing to China, here we are. So, under peacetime, this wouldn't be a problem. Obviously, under the Iraq war, even there was initially a problem with the stockpiles. When we went in there, we were able to surge production because we didn't have the global situation that was so pressurized that we have today. Now, unfortunately, Steve, these defense contractors give them all the money in the world. It's a bottleneck issue that they can't overcome with money. It's an infrastructure problem, and they've not addressed it yet. And it's gonna take too long to address. Now, as we're in the middle of this conflagration,
Steve Bannon
you've been pretty good about giving people kind of walking through, hey, this is where you're gonna go up the exploratory ladder. As you see it right now, as we're starting Holy Week, the escalatory ladder, Rubio could not have been more adamant.
Brandon Weickert
I know.
Steve Bannon
I keep telling people, he ain't the Secretary of State. He's also the National Security Advisor to the President, United States about we're not secretary of everybody. We're not going to send in combat troops. As you see Holy Week playing out this week. Do you think we're now that we got capability in theater, do you think we start rolling out the combat troops this week?
Brandon Weickert
I think in the next couple weeks you're going to see more combat troops. I know the 80 seconds going in. The question is where? I believe that this is where it's going. And I think unfortunately we are stuck in what's known as an escalation trap and there is no off ramp now. So yes, I do believe you will see the introduction of ground troops. I think it will be a disaster under current conditions. We're hearing about Gallipoli and Carg Island. But don't forget there's also the very real possibility that, that the President wants to go on some merry uranium hunt in the heart of Iran, cycling in and out, 82nd Airborne and Marine units and Special Forces. This to me sounds insane. This just doesn't even sound like it's workable. It's gonna get a lot of people killed. So I hope that that is not the plan. I hope those Marines are just being brought in for contingency operations. But ultimately if you look at how we've.
Steve Bannon
When you say there's not an off ramp. Hang on, hang on. You said it's not an off ramp. The President has put out a 15 point plan, has been rejected. They put a five point plan back. That is totally unacceptable to the President. You have the Turks chairing conferences now of powers that are associated with this. You got the Pakistani field marshals very close to President Trump, said hey, I gotta get on the line that we can deal with. You don't see, you don't really see much of that developing?
Brandon Weickert
No sir. No, I think it's too late. I think there's too many hands on the wheel. And I think the wild card is always are the Israelis. And I talked with Yaakov Armador on Monday of last week and Yaakov is the national security adviser to Netanyahu. And Yaakov tells me they're going to keep doing what's in the Israelis national interests no matter what. So that to me indicates the Israelis are planning to push ahead even if we decide to get cold feet. So this is the problem why I say there's too many hands on the wheel. So we are stuck. Steve, unfortunately, this is the essence of a quagmire and I hope and pray that I am wrong. But I haven't been so far. And it looks like we are going to be introducing some component of ground forces, however limited. And it's. There are no good options there. None of the potential landing sites are going to work. It's going to be Gallipoli or some weird Tom Clancy novel that doesn't go according to plan.
Steve Bannon
Brandon, where do people get your assessments? What's your social media and website? All of it. Your writings.
Brandon Weickert
Well, thank you, thank you, thank you. It's1945.com is where I am a senior national security editor. You can catch me as the natsec guy on Emerald tv. Catch me also natsec talk on Rumble and he the Brandon Twitter X also my books are available on Amazon or wherever books are sold.
Steve Bannon
Brandon Weickert, thank you very much for joining us.
Brandon Weickert
Thank you sir.
Steve Bannon
On Palm Sunday.
Brandon Weickert
God bless.
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Jack Posobiec
Steve. Steve.
Steve Bannon
Yep. Okay. You there? I know it's Palm Sunday, Jack, but you know, the tech, the technology is not that complicated. It Ottoman Turks, we've had, we've had mass there ever since, I don't know, for 500 years. What's going on?
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, there's a massive diplomatic row that has broken out over the blocking of Cardinal Pizzabala today there. He is the primarch of Jerusalem of the Holy Land. And he has been someone who has consistently stood for the rights of Christians in the Holy Land during the entirety of his tenure there in Jerusalem. And today, this morning, we'd already been told that the traditional procession on Palm Sunday, where the cardinal would hold a procession through the gate to the Old City and then down to the Church of Holy Sepulcher, that had already been called off because of security concerns due to the ongoing war with, with Iran and various, you know, various munitions that have landed in parts of the Holy Land. And for folks who haven't been to the Old City, it's very, very small area, very tight, very clustered area. Also, of course, if you have these large processions, if you have large public masses, this does become a target, potential target for, for terrorists. And so he had complied and has always complied with security regulations, but was attempting to visit and the Church of Holy Sepulcher this morning, the church where the tomb of Christ is held, as well as the stone function, the rock of Golgotha, the place on earth where the, the crucifixion took place, where, where Easter Sunday took place. Where all of it took place. It's right there. The resurrection, the death, burial and resurrection of Christ all took place within the church. The Holy Sepulcher, that's what sepulcher means. And this is where what the Crusades were fought over. And so, so he was blocked while attempting to hold what they say was a private Mass. He was going in with about four others, and Israeli police blocked him. And they were enforcing this edict, even though he was planning only to go himself as the leader and bring some others, some support staff and perhaps some servers, because he was attempting to do a live stream for the millions of faithful that wanted to tune in, to be able to see. Because, of course, today is Palm Sunday. And on the international stage, this has already become a diplomatic scandal with the Vatican has now summoned the Israeli ambassador. The Foreign Minister of Italy has summoned the Israeli ambassador. You've seen the Prime Minister of Italy, Giorgio Meloni has come out and condemned this. President Macron of France has condemned this. And of course, President Novarodsky of Poland, who just spoke at CPAC yesterday. Massive crowd there, massive reception at CPAC yesterday. He has come out and condemned this as well. Now, in response to this, we've already seen, and after a few hours, the administration in Israel has responded quite quickly. The Prime Minister's office, so Netanyahu's office coming out and saying that they are now going to work on a plan to allow access to church leaders for these holy sites during Holy Week. And the President of Israel, Isaac Herzog, has called up the. Says that he has called Pizzabala, Cardinal Pizzabala on the phone and expressed great sorrow for the incident that took place earlier today. And look for, for folks who don't understand the significance here, today is Palm Sunday. All right? I was at mass with the kids and, and Tanya and I were, you know, we, we take the palms. We always do this for the kids. We do a little, you know, we make the crosses out of them for the kids. And something that, that my parents always did with me. And this one doesn't look so good because it's, it's one that I made. Tanya, as I assure you are much, much nicer looking, are the ones that my mom makes. And this is the day of Jesus's triumphant entrance into Jerusalem, into the holy city itself. And the blocking of the cardinal, of course, on a day like this, of all days, clearly holds biblical significance for so many of the believers. That's why the outrage was so swift and so strong by so many Christians all around the world. Now, Steve, we haven't heard from Ambassador Huckabee yet, whether or not he's reached out. We know he has closed ties with the Netanyahu administration. We don't know whether yet Ambassador Huckabee has reached out and I'm waiting to see and I've asked to see if he's going to put out a statement or is working to clarify what happened here.
Steve Bannon
Now this is the point. They, they knew this was happening. This couldn't just be some junior security guard. I mean, this is the, this is the, the, the religious figure who's essentially in charge of, of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. And Palm Sunday is one of the biggest, I mean, this is the biggest week, much bigger than Christmas. This is the biggest week.
Jack Posobiec
It's the holiest week in Christianity,
Steve Bannon
in the Christian calendar, and particularly given Jerusalem and the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. It couldn't just been some guard saying, no, you can't come through here because we blocked all services. This had to be at the highest levels of the government because, you know, they would have gotten back to people right away. But they still turn him away. And there was no live streaming of the service. Correct?
Jack Posobiec
I have not seen any live streams or any updates on that. I'm looking to see whether or not it's still afternoon there. So I don't know if they're going to allow him in at some point today to say the Mass. It's still Palm Sunday. There's still plenty of time on the clock if they're able to get him in there today to be able to say Mass. And keep in mind. So I do see and there are obvious security concerns, of course, that's no question when you're in the middle of a war. But keep in mind that Cardinal, this is someone who has gone into Gaza and said mass. Bombs were dropping at the Church of
Steve Bannon
the let's cut to the chase and have a real conversation instead of what Huckabee and these clowns do ever since. And this is just a fact. The Greater Israel Project left us with a two state solution. For those of us who said no, you can't have a two state solution, you're going to have Qatar underwrite it. You saw what Jared and Witkoff put out. You saw the diagrams. And the Turks are adamant. They're going to have security whether Israel likes it or not. And the President, his Board of peace has signed off on it. That's a two state solution. We need to get out of this situation where why are the Catholic Church and the Christians supplicants to the Israel government about the most sacred sites in Christendom. This is absurd. We can't go through this. What do you mean? That we got security guards or Netanyahu decides? Netanyahu decides. Does Netanyahu decide if the Catholic Church is going to have a mass in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre on Palm Sunday? Is that his decision? I don't think so. I don't think this is my whole. This is the whole issue. We need the Christians to take control of the Christian sites, full stop. We don't need to be supplicants to the Israel government to do this. And any Christian of Huckabee and Cruz and this crowd that doesn't agree, that shows you what heretics they are. Christians need to control the Christian sites. We don't need to be supplicants to the Israelis on this, okay? And I'm a big supporter of Israel. But these are Christian sites. And the Christian. The Catholic Church and Christians need to take direct control of it. Am I wrong on this, Bosobic?
Jack Posobiec
Look, Steve, there's obviously, you know, when you're in the middle of a war, when you've got targets like this, it reminds me of, you know, St. Patrick's Cathedral there in New York City has always a terrorist target for so many Islamic terrorists that have focused on it over the years. They have their own private security, but of course, they also work with nypd. They work very closely together to work with the public authority. So there's got to be an agreement in place. And whatever agreement is currently in place, it's not working.
Steve Bannon
Working.
Jack Posobiec
It's just not working. When you have a situation like this, one of the high holy days on the Christian Church is our Holy week. The Church is our Holy week.
Steve Bannon
Look, you've got security people all over the world that are Catholic that would volunteer to go do this. You got some of the most sophisticated people in the world, the Vatican, at the Catholic sites throughout the world. That's not the issue. The issue here is who controls the site. The Israelis control these Christian sites or the Christians in the Catholic Church control those sites? It's obvious. You need a new Christian state. You need a new Christian state. It's got to be a three state solution. We can't be supplicants to Muslims and to the Israelis. Why is the Catholic Church and Christians supplicants? Huckabee's humiliating because all he does is kowtow, right? And this has this heretical weirdo belief, right? It's a weirdo. Heretic. He's a heretic. Flat out heretic. This shows you today the Catholic Church and the Christians have to stop being supplicants and start enforcing their will on this situation. Giorgio Maloney running over there and people doing that. That's all fine and good, but we need a resolution to this. You got a resolution in Gaza because you got Qatar, you got a border peace and you got Gaza and you got the Turks providing security. Last time I had looked. Signed off by the President of these United States. We need to move the ball forward on this. I volunteered Prince to be the interim head of it. I'm a volunteer you because your Polish roots and the Poles just in commemoration of Vienna, of stopping the Muslims there, that you would somehow be his deputy. But we need. This is now moving up the chain of action. We have to do this. Let me repeat this. Christians and Catholics cannot be supplicants about. About the holiest sites in our religion. Jack Posobic. It's. It's a. It's absurd. It's absurd. You guys, stop.
Jack Posobiec
Steve, I do want to clarify that I am seeing. Pardon me, I am seeing a statement from Ambassador Huckabee. He has released a statement now and I hadn't seen that getting here, getting set up. So I do see that now that has come out. He said that the restriction the home front command guidelines restrict any gatherings to 50 people or less. The four representatives of the Catholic Church were well below that restriction. Statements from the government of Israel indicate the action to prohibit the cardinal were for safety reasons. But churches, synagogues and MOs throughout Jerusalem have met with the restrictions of 50 or less. For the Patriarch of the Catholic Church to be barred from entry to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher on Palm Sunday for a private ceremony is difficult to understand or justify. Israel has indicated it will work with the Patriarch to accommodate a safe means of carrying out Holy Week activities. So he has. He has released that statement and he also said just now that he is grateful for the conciliatory and gracious statement by President Herzog regarding the unfortunate Palm Sunday incident at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. So Steve, this is something where.
Steve Bannon
And by the way. Come on. It's not good enough. It's not good enough. They get down Palm Sundays and then, and then he's going to count. He's going to kowtow for the happy talk. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, real simple. We gotta stop being supplicants, okay? We need the crusader spirit and we need it in Jerusalem. It's the holiest sites in our religion. The Muslims and the Jews aren't shy about not being supplicants about their holy sites. And I got no problem with that. They should do that. That's their religion. But we got to do it too. And it's time to stop being supplicants of this. Jack Bovic that's about as hard as a statement you're going to get as Huckabee. But at the of the end, he's still got a kowtow.
Jack Posobiec
Sir Stephen when all of this came up last year when we were looking at the strikes on Iran, Operation Midnight Hour, prior to that one issue that I raised and we look at the head choppers up in Syria and this guy from Al Nusra who's now become the leader of Syria and the way that they're just wiping out Christian villages in Syria and I went back to some of those. The question is when these Middle east wars kick off, there always seems to be a forgotten aspect and that is the aspect of the rights of the Christians in the Middle East. Where is anyone standing up for the rights of the Christians who live there who always seem to get wiped out and bear the brunt of so much violence in the midst of these situations? And you're right, Steve, it's not good enough. It is not good enough. The rights of the Christians in the Holy Land and throughout the Middle east need to be represented. Every single government of every single one of these countries needs to have a representative of the Christians as part of that government. Period. Full stop.
Steve Bannon
Jack, Social media, where do people go? You got to get back to the family. Where do they go today to follow all of this on your Twitter account?
Jack Posobiec
Well, thank you very much, Steven. I'm going to be tracking this as well and putting it out as the diplomatic situation continues. Also, if any other of these attacks do take place other than other developments as they come at Jack Posobic and of course the podcast is Human Events Daily. Apple, Spotify.
Steve Bannon
Thank you brother. Appreciate you.
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for healing, learn more and sign the pledge@workingwithcancerpledge.com War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, like I said, today on Palm Sunday, I want to thank Real America's voice, Robin Parker, Sig, the entire team in Denver for giving up part of their Palm Sunday to be with us and to help us technically get this done. Of course, my own production team here, Ben Harnwell, joins us. Ben, all day in the war, in the wardroom of the War Room, we've been having arguments, I say, disagreements among shipmates who have a lot of think very highly of each other. We're bringing you in. Are you, are you digging my new Christian state of Jerusalem, sir?
Ben Harnwell
Well, Captain Bligh, let me put it like this. I'm glad I pulled in to the side of the motorway to hear the preceding segment with you and Jack. If I was still driving, I would have crashed the car. No, I am mutinying on this point. This is hard rolling opposition. I don't share the view. And I tell you what, as I may have intimated before on the War Room, if you create a third state in the Holy Land, a Christian state, you, the United States are never getting out of the Middle East. Full stop. This is your ultimate, eternal Hang on,
Steve Bannon
hang on, hang on. The United States. Whoa. Full stop, full stop, full stop. The United States has nothing to do with this. We're not looking for the United States to create a new Christian State. No way. This has to be done by the Christian Catholics and the Christian. I have. We want nothing. Eric Prince is going to be the interim head. The United States have nothing to do with this.
Jack Posobiec
Zero.
Erik Prince
You.
Steve Bannon
You do with this.
Ben Harnwell
You impossible may say that. And you believe that. Right? But in 20 years, 30 years, I do believe that Huckabee's children and all the rest of them, Right. The next generation and third generation, these people. If you think these guys are all in on Israel, you haven't seen anything yet when it comes to the grift that they are going to perform in terms of fundraising and political support in keeping Christian state going in the Holy Land because it won't be viable without the United States.1. Okay, that's my. That's my first and most fundamental point. My second point, right? First Corinthians. Know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Ghost which is within you. I would be desperately upset. Work for Christianity to lose control over these historic places. But they are only building. But I agree with what you possibly were saying, Steve. I agree with you when you say no to being a supplicant. However, let me, let me sketch out a second alternative. We pull out, the west pulls out. Let Israel do whatever antics they want to, and then we say, you guys are on your own. Let Islam come in, wipe Israel off, and then we cut a deal with Islam to get our properties back. That's what I would suggest.
Steve Bannon
Oh, my God. Anyway, I like my plan a lot better. I think it's much more sellable. And just think, oh, they're just buildings. They're not buildings. They're not buildings. These are actually the place where Jesus Christ walked, died, suffered, taught all of it. It's the Holy Land. Go ahead.
Ben Harnwell
For sure. It's the Holy Land. These things have immeasurable value. But we'll get them back. You see, we'll get the.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. I'm not prepared. I'm not prepared to take. Yeah, right. I. I would not. We can't even get them to sign up to protect their own oil. American citizens have got to do that anyway. America has nothing to do because they know how to be independent.
Ben Harnwell
That's because they know.
Steve Bannon
You're so cynical. You're. You're so cynical.
Ben Harnwell
Because in the Middle east, because, because they know. Know what our weak point is and they go for it every time. And they know that we're just bluffing and that they'll get whatever they want. That's why they get what they want.
Steve Bannon
Okay. Okay. On Palm Sunday, pull back on the motorway. Where do people go? Get all your content, because I'll talk to you afterwards. This is. I've designated Prince as the interim head poso, as his deputy, and you're going to be the comms director, so. And the PR person. Where do people go to get all your beady eyed analysis on Getter?
Ben Harnwell
I'm taking nothing less than Ambassador Steve. Right, Right. Get your number two pencil out and put that in your book. Harnwell penciled in for ambassador. Get at Harnwell. Right. That's why I'm seven days a week. Thanks, Steve. God bless you. And God bless the war room posse on Sunday,
Steve Bannon
Palm Sunday. Thank you, Ben, for pulling us out of the road. Dr. Thayer, we're working on your new book. Your magnum opus will come out sometime later this summer, early fall. We'll give more details on that later. We just had two Wynton Halls was number 13 in the new York Times bestseller list. And of course, Jan Eucalyx was number eight. War room book with Skyhorse. Yours is going to be a hit. We got a couple minutes. Do you agree with Brandon Weickert? Why don't you sum up today on the war room? We've been fighting all day, which is what I love. Once you sum up. Do you agree with Brandon Weikart or not?
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, first, don't box President Trump in. Right. Trump will take his path and will act based on US national security interests. And so Rubio's points that he made on Friday, March 27, I think are spot on. And as Jim Fennell stressed, we're making progress in each of those areas. That's not to say, as Brandon indicated, and he's right. Right. There will be a latent drone and missile capability and Iran will be able to execute some complex operations, missile attack operations, as the intermediate range ballistic missile attack against Diego Garcia illustrated. So that danger is going to be with us from now on. Right. That's part of the consequences of this warfare. I would underscore what Brandon said about the magazine. Right. Our arsenal is being drained. RTX said according to press reports, they made about 600 Patriot interceptors last year. And we're burning that up very quickly. As well as joint air to surface strike missiles, the JASSM missiles and other capabilities that we're using up. The loss of the, the E3 is very significant. AWACS aircraft are very high demand assets and we're getting, you know, we're incurring losses there.
Steve Bannon
So Dr. Thayer, we got to bounce. Where do people go to get all your writings and where they go to get your instantaneous output on social media.
Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, Steve, thanks for your support of the book. And I just say on this Palm Sunday rather than my social media, let's go. Remember that it's National Vietnam War Veterans Day. Nine million Americans served in the Vietnam War and today is the day that we honor them, including 58,000 who were killed in over 58,000 who were killed in the war. So it's important to remember those we had loved ones, of course, friends, family members who died in Vietnam or were wounded there or who served there. So it's important today on this Palm Sunday also to remember our Vietnam War veterans.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, Sir. Appreciate you. Dr. Bredwood there. We'll be back up 10am Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow. I want to thank everybody that helps us put this Sunday show on. Make sure you have a great Palm Sunday with your family for the rest of the day.
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Host: Steve Bannon
Panelists & Guests: Jack Posobiec, Captain Jim Fennell, Erik Prince, Dr. Bradley Thayer, Brandon Weickert, Ben Harnwell
Theme: Palm Sunday, Middle East Escalation, Christian Rights in Jerusalem, US & Allied Military Strategy
This Palm Sunday edition of "War Room" focused on spiraling conflict in the Middle East, specifically US and Israeli military actions, regional politics, Christian rights in the Holy Land, and the meaning of the religious holiday in a time of crisis. The discussion brought together military experts, policy commentators, and international affairs analysts, who debated urgent security decisions, the fate of Christian sites in Jerusalem, and the risk of escalation in Iran and beyond.
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Brandon Weickert: Stressed logistical crisis:
Debate over US Troop Commitments:
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This Palm Sunday episode was marked by a sense of historical and prophetic urgency: intensifying conflict in the Middle East, fears of US escalation, and the meaning of Christian faith and power in a world in upheaval. The discussion moved dynamically from military analysis to theological identity, closing with a sober call to remember the sacrifices of past wars and assert the rights—and the will—of Christians in the present struggles for the Holy Land.