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Steve Bannon
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human me. Because we use the oil market as a information provider. Right now, I think West Texas is over, what, 100, 405 bucks a barrel. Brent is up to 114, 15. The market today, correct me if I'm wrong, has not really bought into the fact that there's some negotiations on this. Going to slow this down, am I. Is that the correct interpretation of that 100%.
Eric Bolling
Right. Beyond 100%. Because for, for the better part of the last four weeks since we've been at this, Trump would come out and say, oh, they're, they're about to relent or the negotiations are going well, oil be down $15 a barrel, $10 a barrel. This is the time where Trump is saying, we've got them where we want them. And the oil market this time said, you know what, we're seeing something different in the actual physical oil market. And they, they're pushing the prices up and they're not. They're going to wait for the real all clear, not the rhetorical all clear.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on. Repeat that. It's very important. For the first time, President Trump and today was actually more detailed. We are talking to the right people. I think Rubio even, even backed up the fact that we are making some progress. They identified the speaker of the House of the Iranian parliament that I even know was a thing. But they've got a parliament, right? And this guy, and he's in the, and he's in the negotiation chains. Supposedly it's as close to direct as we can, although people are still, still saying we're going indirect to the Pakistanis. But what did the. Or for the first time, like you said, he didn't have a dip. The oil market, I think, stayed the same to go slightly up. It actually surged to the end of the day, did it not 100%.
Eric Bolling
So this is the first time that. So Trump, over the past four weeks, Trump would come out and say something very positive. In other words, positive for some sort of solution. Oil would go down. It would retreat immediately. This is the first time where we heard some of that same, I won't call it rhetoric, some of that same commentary coming out of Trump and the administration. Well, every other time the Iranians have disputed. He didn't. That we're not doing this. That's not true. They did it again. But this time the oil market didn't retreat. It stayed. It was one. Oh, it was 99, 60 on Friday at the close, it ended up, it's opened at 103, today it went up to 104 and a half. 5. It doesn't believe anything until it sees it now. And I told you I spoke to a major transporter and a major refiner when I was in Dallas with you guys. And, and they are both and remember the refiner is very susceptible to higher oil prices. They don't want higher oil prices because they need to buy it to run it through the refinery. Both of those transport and refiner refiners are predicting and feeling like oil is going substantially higher, which is, it's tough news.
Steve Bannon
Now the CCP supposedly today breaking, I think in the financial times are telling, in the supply chains they're telling these, they're telling the people in the supply chains they're going to be passing on these higher costs to them. So they're saying costs are going to go up. Remember, our allies, even our enemies, the incentives are not aligned with ours.
Eric Bolling
Correct.
Steve Bannon
President Trump, as we said, his economic plan is predicated upon full spectrum energy dominance and always led by oil at as low as President Trump can get it. We know President Trump had a target of trying to get it to a four handle, try to get it into the 40s. In fact it was I think 53 or 54 when Bibi went to Mar a Lago between Christmas and New Year's. So President Trump's always been that old. You know, our Arab allies are having, you know, 2x2 and a halfx increase in their, in their reserves.
Eric Bolling
And Russia because this so we don't
Steve Bannon
have a ton of allies.
Eric Bolling
And Russia gets in Russia a bump too. Russia, they get a massive bump in there and there was, it's called the, the war dividend to these, to these people and they're, they're in no rush to make have that, that $100 handle on oil and anytime soon.
Steve Bannon
Okay Eric, where do people go? What's your social media? Where do they go for your 4
Eric Bolling
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Steve Bannon
Appreciate sir. See you tomorrow. I'll talk, I'll talk to you as soon as the show's over. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to play our cold open. We are going to go Scott Besson's got an event and I think Scott's going to be talking about some actions they're taking on the war. We're going to cut into that. We got David Zier there in Long Island. Mike Davis is going to join me. Hopefully Sheila Math is going to try to juggle and get some other things in as we talk about the war and the global economy. Let's go ahead now and play our cold open for the afternoon.
Katie Pavlich
President Trump's past emissaries, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump's son in law Jared Kushner are reportedly hitting a diplomatic wall with CNN and the Guardian now reporting that Tehran has indicated it would prefer talks with Vice President J.D. vance. You'll recall it was Witkoff and Kushner who met with Iran in February, right before the US and Israel launched strikes.
Caroline Levitt
President Trump issued a 10 day pause to postpone hone planned strikes on Iranian power plants and energy infrastructure. This remains a truly once in a generation opportunity for the regime to make a good deal with the United States, permanently abandon their nuclear ambitions and stop acting as the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. If the Iranians reject this golden opportunity, the greatest military in the history of the world continues to stand by to provide President Trump with every option available to ensure this regime continues to pay a grave price. One way or another, Iran will no longer have the credible ability to threaten the United States or our allies, which is of course, the overall objective admission the president set out when he launched Operation Epic Fury. The trend remains clear. The United States is conducting more intense targeted strikes with devastating combat power with each passing day to destroy the threat posed by the Iranian terrorist regime, as President Trump sought out to do a month ago. It's no surprise that we are seeing the remaining elements of the regime become increasingly eager to end the destruction and come to the negotiating table while they still can. Despite all of the public posturing you hear from the regime and false reporting, talks are continuing and going well. What is said publicly is of course, much different than what's being communicated to us privately.
Katie Pavlich
Privately, however, and whenever this war in Iran ends is anybody's guess right now. But what is becoming less of a guess is what it's doing to the Republican Party. As Politico puts it, the president is taking a highly unusual twin track approach to this war. On the one hand, he's trying to find the fastest off ramp to a conflict he knows voters do not like and could mortally wound Republicans at the ballot box arguing the war is basically over. You've heard it on the other hand, he is also arguing to escalate by taking the oil, sending in more troops, seizing uranium and repeating his ultimatums, quote, if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it will probably be, and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately open for business, we will conclude our lovely stay in quotes in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their electric generating plants, oil wells and Hog island to follow up,
Sheila Matthews
because Americans are sort of seeing these
Caroline Levitt
conflicting messages between the United States and Iran.
Sheila Matthews
I know the president insists that negotiations are underway, as you just mentioned.
Caroline Levitt
He's also said that Iran has agreed
Sheila Matthews
to Most of the 15 points we just heard from Iran. Again, they're saying no negotiations are taking place. They're calling the proposal excessive, unrealistic.
Caroline Levitt
So how do you square that? What, what is how do you explain that discrepancy between the two?
Katie Pavlich
Ms.
Caroline Levitt
I think the American people are smart enough not to take the word of a terrorist regime that has chanted death to America for 47 years at their word. And I hope the journalists in this room are wise enough not to take an Iranian regime that has repeatedly lied about our country, about our values, about everyone in this room, frankly, for nearly five decades. So I think the American public are smart enough to understand that.
Legal Analyst
The president posted this morning about, you know, his threat that on leaving Iran, he said we might blowing up and completely obliterating all of their electric generating plants, oil wells, Hag island, and possibly all desalinization plans. Under international law, striking civilian infrastructure like that is generally prohibited. Why is the president threatening what would amount to potentially a war crime with the US Military, and how do you square that with the administration repeatedly saying that the U.S. does not target civilians?
Caroline Levitt
Ms. Look, the President has made it quite clear to the Iranian regime at this moment in time, as evidenced by the statement that you just read, that their best move is to make a deal or else. The United States armed forces has capabilities beyond their wildest imagination, and the president is not afraid to use that. That's not what I said, Garrett, and you're saying the word potential for a reason, because I'm sure some experts are telling you that in your ear to try to ask me that question. Of course, this administration and the United States armed forces will always act within the confines of the law. But with respect to achieving the full objectives of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump is going to move forward unabated, and he expects the Iranian regime to make a deal with the administration to that end.
Legal Analyst
Which of those objectives would destroying a desalinization plant. Most help.
Caroline Levitt
Every time the president says something that seems completely contradictory, it's Caroline Levitt's job to go out there and pretend that it's somehow consistent. And this is is the trick for this war, right? He says one thing, as you rightly point out, one minute and another thing, another it wasn't that long ago we were talking about unconditional surrender. Now we're talking about negotiations which are, of course, conditional. And in some ways, the uncertainty which they say is intentional may have some strategic purpose. Nobody can be 100% sure what Donald Trump might do next. That's, you know, there's an advantage to that in some way, but it also means that, you know, even he doesn't seem to know what he's doing or what he's going to do next. And because it seems to be so conditioned on the impulse of the moment, the thing he happens to see on tv, the thing somebody has to happens to tell him most recently. And I think that that's the kind of thing that is, you know, really concerned both the Allies and a lot of American officials who are not certain
Steve Bannon
where this war is going. Thanks a lot, Caroline. Two questions regarding the financial cost of the war. Back during the Persian Gulf War, 1990, 1991, Arab countries paid for the vast majority of the cost of the war Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the uae who's paying for the cost of this war? Will those Arab countries step up to do just that?
Caroline Levitt
Ms. Well, I think it's something the President would be quite interested in calling them to do. I won't get ahead of him on that, but certainly it's an idea that I know that he has and something that I think you'll hear more from him on.
Steve Bannon
Okay. We've been pressing those two points in this total war. Number one, you have to seize the financial assets of the of the Persians and a lot of those financial assets, the ones not sitting in Switzerland are sitting the bulk of them, we are told, are sitting in Dubai. Think about that for a second. A nation that we defend UAE and they can make that decision. Now, there is all types of chatter in Arab media that this is being done because that that would be a big move. The pirate cove they're used to having the pirate code is the double deal. Everybody even double deal themselves and I think even some of the Arab nation is a little surprised about the level of assets they have, but this should be seized immediately. Also, they're absolutely correct in in the Gulf War, I think the vast amount was paid for the by the Arab nations. This should be 100% paid for Iran. Remember one of the war objectives, make sure they can't have power projection regionally. And obviously a big part of that is Israel, but it's also on the Arab nations. And one of the reasons you've seen some folks go wobbly is that they've hit the Arab nations, the desalination plants, the, some of the oil refiners, of course, the Israelis hit the gas plant, which I say the inflection point. But the point is that the Arab nation's got to write checks. First off, the value of their oil has over doubled already just off the profits, just off the wealth increase. And they're all jumping on force majeure. The Saudis the other day, force majeure. They want to break the contracts with the West. They want to break the contracts of old. That's at 50, 52, $55 a barrel. And the Qatar already, I think invoked on the five year contracts for gas or liquefied natural gas, if they liquefy it. These guys are making a fortune. It's time to get the checkbooks out and stroke the checks. I don't know why we would go to Capitol hill, ask for 200 billion until we go around and pass the hat there and say, hey, you in for that? You in for that? You wouldn't forget your checkbook out. I want to see a bunch of zeros at the end of this. Then whatever the net is, maybe you have to throw something in it. I don't even know why you would throw something in it. You know, maybe you got to go to Jerusalem too and say, hey, get the checkbook out. Let's write a check here, guys. Little something for the effort, as they said in Caddyshack. A little something for the effort. I think it's what Bill Murray, you know, told the Dalai Lama after he caddied for him, he was about to get stiffed. We can't get stiffed over there. Scott Bessens up, he's giving a talk about, you know, families and what President Trump's doing for tax cuts and what refund checks are coming and about Trump accounts, all these great things that President Trump's doing for the economy. Well, this pressure of paying for this Gulf War could wipe out a bunch of that. It shouldn't have to happen. We're saving people. It look, it's completely indifferent to us. They get the NATO Navy, get the Royal Navy down, keep Hormuz, let's see their big plants. Keeping Hormuz and the Red Sea open. We talked about this last summer. Why are we, if we're gonna, if we're gonna do this, which I don't understand why we're doing it, why are they not down stroking checks? And what they should do is just replace us. You know, all these guys, all the, they're all great allies until it comes to actually either writing checks or sending people in harm's way. Like our young men and women are volunteered by the political class daily to go into harm's way. Mike Davis is going to join us. There's so much more going on that we're going to get to all of it. We're also going to get back to the war and we're going to cut into Scott Bessen if he talks about what's happening in this war in the Gulf. Short commercial break. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. So from the turnover I did with Eric Bowling, just remember today ready in your number two principle that it was the first time that President Trump had talked about and it was some specificity and backed up by the secretary of state or the national security adviser. The markets did not respond. The oil market did not drop like it has dropped. In fact, West Texas Intermediate finished I think at 105 and 115 or about. For Brent, it's not these specific numbers. It's kind of the pattern recognition. Trent did not back off. I think the markets need to see a little more information because the Iranians are coming out and pretty much saying, well, first off, nobody can figure out who's negotiating. Actually we're doing it directly. But a lot of different elements, remember, they're probably shattered into several different elements or denying it. Of course. The entre room also reports that, you know, I keep talking about Aryan's landmark, this history of the retreat back from India of Alexander the Great and his army. They took the land route right on the rim right there on the North Arabian Sea and then into the Persian Gulf as he put 50% of his troops on the ships and had them go through Hormuz. And it's just horrific. You got to read about this expedition. But they said hey, Aryan in the morning and Caddyshack in the afternoon. That's range. That's what you come to the war room for. Mike Davis, I got two things for you. One is very disturbing. I don't and there's some good guys over there too and I think they went along with this. The Senate, you agree to a deal that carves out ice and customers border. Now there is some Theory, of course, Rosemary Jenks says, she's talked to Appropriations and she says this theory doesn't work. That somehow the big beautiful bill, they got loaded in there somehow. But it's still not clarity of that. Although TSA somehow started getting paid today because CNN went to Houston's airport and they went to Atlanta's airport, which were two of the worst, if not the two worst. And it's like two minutes in there. I hope it's cause ICE agents that were there not getting paid were arresting illegal aliens. I don't know, but they're breezing through. Tell me about that. That's bad enough. Also, you know, we spent all this time, I could tell, and the Warren posse understood it. Mike Lee is up there being a hero on the Save America act and try to seize the floor and force this. But besides him and Eric Schmidt and a couple of good guys, you just didn't feel the heat. The Save America act that's trying to go and get it and break the filibuster, do a standing field. It seemed like a couple of people trying to force it. And then the Senate just. They took off in two ways. They're gone in two weeks. So make this make sense for the audience exactly what happened and who's accountable. Even, even Johnson, the Speaker said, I can't do this. They passed something totally different. So, you know, people are kind of outraged about this. Explain to us what happened.
Mike Davis
The senators have two crucial tasks that they have to accomplish. They need to fund our homeland security. So our DHS workers are not going for more than 40 days without their paychecks. They also need to pass the Save America act in the senate that has 80% support among American voters, including a super majority of Democrats and even a super majority of minorities. These Senate Republicans failed those two crucial tests. They are on their second paid vacation in just about 40 days, while at the same time, these DHS workers were not getting paid. We have DHS workers going to food banks. These, these families are working paycheck to paycheck. And these senators thought it was a good idea to take their second paid vacation in 40 days while DHS workers are going unpaid. What the hell is going on in the Senate? I want to say this to these Senate Republicans. Do your jobs. Your job is to protect our homeland. Your job is to make sure that only American citizens are voting in American elections. These have brought bipartisan support and you
Steve Bannon
want to go on your second vacation. They know all that. Hang on. You work for a guy you revere. Grassley. Right. You know The Senate as well as anybody. Hell, you've led confirmations and some of the hardest confirmations in American history. See what's going on here. Correct me if I'm wrong by somehow they're treating President Trump as a lame duck. They go on recess, and they don't actually go on a technical recess, so he can't do recess appointments. Grassley and these guys still abiding by the rules. So there's not breaking the filibuster. We're still blue, slipping people like crazy. President Trump still only got 14, I think U.S. attorneys, which, you know, are the shock troops over DOJ, and we got nobody at DOJ. You got a handful of great people, but they're barely hanging on. They got Casey. No. Every day they're going into federal court. They were down in Georgia the other day. You've got this situation of the Save America, where they have no, you know, and I know they have no intention of ever passing that. In fact, Tuberville said, hey, you couldn't even get. If we get. If there was no filibuster, we couldn't get 50 votes to make JD the 51st. He says you wouldn't come close. You're a couple of short. There's. So what is President Trump to do that the Senate has basically said, hey, sorry, not sorry, John Thune, isn't it time that we actually get Article three and the war Room Posse and get up? Because you only need 27 votes to change the leader. And John Thune is a good guy, he's a nice guy, but clearly, you know, in wartime, you need a wartime consigliere. You need people prepared to take it to the mat, and he's just not going to do it. So shouldn't our focus be on. Instead of. Things are clearly going to be performative. We just go back and say, let's change the leader and let's get somebody in there that's prepared to have President Trump's back and go all in even if we lose. I think what the Warren Posse and the people at Article 3 that support it, they want to see a fight and a real fight, as Mike Lee said it was going to take a fist fight on the Senate floor to get the Save America act to make it real. And we didn't even come close. As great as Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt and a handful of others were, we didn't come close to a fistfight, sir.
Mike Davis
Yeah. I would say this. The Senate Democrats are fighting like hell for their key constituency, illegal aliens. Right. They want to Senate Democrats want to defund ice, defund Homeland Security, make it easy for their illegal aliens to rig and steal elections. And how do Senate Republicans respond? Like giants. Because that's what they are. And I would say this to John Thune, nice guys finish last. You need to get these Senate Republicans back in the Senate and grind these Senate Democrats to a halt. If they want to filibuster the Save America act, make them stand on their feet and talk until they run out of gas, and then you can pass the Save America act with a simple majority. And on DHS funding, you really can't get the support to pay our TSA workers. You can't get the supports to pay our ICE agents. What the hell are Senate Republicans doing if they can't lean in on these two crucial issues that deal directly with our sovereignty with the Save America act, and our national security with the funding of dhs? This is shameful. These Senate Republicans are cowards. They need to get their asses back to work and get out of Disneyland.
Steve Bannon
So this morning Punchbowl had this poll where the donors are 88% hate mass deportations or any of the videos. They don't like it. And of course, the people are like 80 to 85%. They want deportations. So what are we gonna do? The ICE situation is central. The donors don't want ICE funded. This is one of the reasons the Senate cut. I mean, you couldn't think of a dumber deal. And I understand they're saying, well, it's actually carved out because it's funded someplace else. I've still not gotten a straight answer on that. Maybe you know it, but I mean, Rosemary Jenks, pretty serious person, she says no. The way big beautiful bill was written, it's not an appropriations bill. You couldn't just oversee. It's gotta be by appropriate. This is why they're having this fight right now. President Trump just said, hey, look, you guys deal with it. But we're going to pay the TSA folks. You guys deal with it. Although appropriations is law, what are we to do when the donors clearly have the ear of the Senate? And so they cut these deals and make it impossible to do anything, and then they just leave town.
Mike Davis
Sir, Mike Lee has a good proposal which is using a provision of the Constitution for the president to call these senators back in session to pass this extraordinary measure to pay our DHS workers. They've gone without paychecks for more than 40 days. They're not Senate Republicans. They don't have trust funds. They actually are working Americans living paycheck to paycheck. And it's shameful that these Senate Republicans went on their second paid vacation while these DHS workers are struggling and going to food banks. Senate Republicans are acting shamefully. And John Thune needs to bring the Senate back in session, fund DHS and pass the Save America Act. And I want to remind these Senate Republicans, because I used to work with these cowards when I confirmed judges. They're the biggest. They are. It seems like the Senate is the only swamp in the world where the reptiles lack backbones. And they are really, really proving that this week. I need to remind these guys, these senators. You would not have a Senate majority but for Donald J. Trump and his land slide victory, you would not have won the Senate. You guys are pissing away the majority. Get your asses back to work.
Steve Bannon
Do you think that, by the way, I'm asking you to stay through the break because we're going to talk about the Wednesday 14th Amendment debate at the Supreme Court on birthright citizenship. Do you think you can do that, Mike, unless Dune thinks his job's in jeopardy. I mean, is he going to do it? And it's like everything in Washington, it takes a crisis or it takes somebody think they're going to get thrown under the bus until any action takes place. Do you think Dune will do anything just because Mike Davis and Steve Bannon at the war room are yelling at him, or is it going to take somebody to say, look, let's move on this guy?
Mike Davis
Yeah, that's a very good question. This is a crucial test of John Thune's leadership. Nice guys finish last. Let's deliver results for the American people.
Steve Bannon
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Katie Pavlich
court is set to consider President Trump's attempt to to end birthright citizenship. Citizenship, excuse me, a centerpiece of his agenda. In a post this morning, the president repeated a claim that he's made before. Calling the constitutional amendment establish establishing birthright citizenship having more to do with slavery than equality. He said he also seemed to take a swipe at the justices themselves, saying dumb judges and justices will not make a great country well, not a great country make. He inverted that.
Legal Analyst
Donald Trump and his Solicitor General and a few conservative scholars are bringing to the court are some fringe arguments that have been rejected for more than a century. As you said, the 14th Amendment clearly says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. And that term, subject to the jurisdiction has been held not to include diplomats and invading armies and initially Native Americans, although that was changed later. But now Donald Trump and his allies are trying to say that that should also not include people who are here illegally. And look, he's already predicting he's going to lose. Most legal scholars think he's going to lose this. And this will be the second major defeat after tariffs. And politically, it will allow him to blame the court and say that he tried to fight the good fight and he lost. And it's going to further poison his relationship with this court, which is one of the most conservative courts and in decades. Again, most people do not think he has a prayer here. But there are, there are an increasing number of fringy legal scholars who have come to adopt the idea that maybe there is. It is time to take another look at this. That maybe that initial decision was wrong. So I don't think he can completely rule it out. But some conservatives justices have hinted in previous arguments that they have very little patience for this argument and that they're, you know, it would just, it would just throw 100 years of jurisprudence into chaos, for one thing, Katie, because you're supposed to be able to rely on, you know, decades and decades of settled precedent.
Steve Bannon
Okay. I've heard our viceroy referred to as a ballroom, a barroom brawler, but never a fringy legal scholar. What in the hell is he talking about, Mike? Because I hear from some of the most smartest guys about the Constitution, and they say this one is not even a jump ball. They think it's gonna be a positive ruling. Your thoughts?
Mike Davis
Well, I'm glad that Jack Smith's spokesperson is weighing in on this important Supreme Court case. I would just point to Ken to look at the Wong Kim arc case from 1898, where the Supreme Court very clearly ruled on the 14th Amendment's birthright citizenship clause. And the Supreme Court said that in order for you to have birthright citizenship in this country under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, you have to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. And in the Wong Kim Kim Ark case, the Supreme Court said that lawful permanent residents are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. But American Indians in a separate case were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. So you have to ask this dispositive question. If American Indians are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United states under the 14th Amendment, how the hell would illegal aliens be subject to to the jurisdiction of the United States? They're clearly not if you follow the plain text textualism or the original public meaning of the fourteenth Amendment's birthright citizenship clause. Originalism. These constitutionalist justices on the Supreme Court should find this to be a very easy case. There is clearly no birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. For Chinese birth tourists, for example, should not have birthright citizenship. 1.1
Steve Bannon
Schweizer's found 1.4 million Manchurian voters, Chinese nationals living in China that are US Citizens and can vote when they're of age. I mean, this is one of the reasons the book spent five weeks on the on the New York Times bestsellers. Mike, does it behoove President Trump who selected a lot of these folks and is very close? Is it behoove him? He's like a college basketball coach working the refs. Does it behoove him? He's working the refs on this one hard. Is it behoove him to to work the refs?
Mike Davis
I would just say this to these six Republican appointed Supreme Court justices. If you're actually going to follow the law, this is a very easy case. There is no birthright citizenship or illegal aliens. They're not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They're subject to the jurisdiction from the country from which they came. Right. And so if ambassadors, kids do not have birthright citizenship of invading armies do not have birthright citizenship of American Indians do not have birthright citizenship. This is such an easy legal decision for them to make. Clearly, illegal aliens do not have birthright citizenship. That is if they have the courage to follow the plain text in the original public meaning of the 14th amendment. We'll see who knows how these justices will rule. Courage is in very short supply in Washington D.C. right now.
Steve Bannon
Okay, so we're going to be covering all of that live. It's on Wednesday. Of course, we'll have a whole team is there Rosemary Jenks, Mike Howell, the entire team will be there right before I let you go because the process is, you know, Mike Lee puts out some President Trump puts it up on Truth Social. Just explain the audience. Just take a minute. How do we actually get them back here? What is President Trump call him back. Has Mike Lee put some resolution up? What has to happen to get them all, get them out of their vacations, get them back here on Easter weekend to set things right. Here. Sir, the United States Senate to Senate Republicans.
Mike Davis
I realize that you're in the most exclusive nursing home on the planet, but I would just like to remind you that recess is for kids. You need to get back to work and pass the Save America act and fund DHS workers who are living paycheck to paycheck and have to go to food banks so they don't have the same luxuries that you have with these two paid vacations in 40 days. If you're not willing to do that, President Trump should invoke a provision of the Constitution that allows him to call the Senate back into session during extraordinary times. I think this is an extraordinary time when DHS workers are at food banks because they're not getting paid.
Steve Bannon
Unbelievable. Mike, Article 3 in your social media, where do people go?
Mike Davis
Article 3 project.org, article 3 project.org donate follow us on social media Take action. The most important action item is the Save America Act. Keep illegals from voting in American elections.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Appreciate you At CPAC also, Mike Davis, there are three people kicked off with a party and of course the traditional war room closed it on Saturday night with a party. Heard it was fantastic. We were back here grinding. But the parties are for the younger people. Sheila Matthews. Sheila, you are in. You join us by phone. I think you're in Atlanta. Have just landed. Why is able child? Why are you going to Atlanta? What's going to happen tomorrow?
Sheila Matthews
We have an amazing exhibit in the Capitol. It's the first of its kind and we're hoping for more throughout the country. But it's basically on Eisenhower's able child and we have the checklists of the ADHD child and how it mirrors that of the gifted child. So our presentation is going to be to educate lawmakers. It's open to the public. It's from 8am to 12 noon in the south wing of the Capitol building. And people can find information on FultonCountySpeaks.com in the events section. It is gonna be wonderful. I mean, basically we are working to help Support a bill, HR 1007, sponsored by Todd Jones, a House representative, regarding arts for health initiatives for improving mental health outcomes. So basically it is to work on alternatives instead of psychiatric drugs for children. It's to really look at the validity of the label itself. Because President Eisenhower wanted the children, the able child, to flour and where the ADHD child is a disease model. The President Eisenhower's child is a gifted child. And when you lift up the child, the entire country flourishes. This disease model of ADHD isn't real. It's a checklist. It's subjective where the gifted are the ones like Beethoven and all these wonderful people in history. I could go on and on Einstein and Steve Jobs. So these. It's really looking at this label and saying, why are we putting an ADHD disease label on these children when in fact they're gifted and they're able? We need to flourish through President Eisenhower's National Defense Education Act.
Steve Bannon
A lot, a lot of this is just little boys being little boys. Next thing you know, they got thrown on drugs. This whole thing's so corrupt. It's so awful. It's Big pharma in your life. It's. It's disgusting. And that's why I think you guys are doing such a great job. Let me just change the topic. I don't want to get, I don't want to be accusatory, but this has popped up all over and I know you guys have tracked it. Explain to me this AOC situation with I guess her, the fcc, the, the federal elections. They got a put out once a quarter where they actually spend the money they raise and there's some issue about she and some spending item they've actually paid. I don't know, what is it, $19,000 to one of these doctors that's also a guy that, I guess he prescribes ketamine. What. Is there anything there or. It's causing a big media storm. And I know you looked into it and you didn't want to jump to conclusions because you were the first one to alert me to this weeks ago or a week or so ago. What is actually going on there that her campaign actually paid for ketamine that she would take or do we have any. What are the specifics of this?
Sheila Matthews
Well, that's the thing, that's the question, and that's why we didn't want to jump on it is because she hasn't admitted to taking ketamine. But right now we're working on a story that just came out on the Gateway Pundit about a mom who used ketamine, which is not FDA approved for use in children. It's not FDA approved, so it doesn't have any warnings on it. So we're working on a case where a mom killed four of her children. She was on ketamine and another psychiatric drug. So this is all experimental. And so we didn't jump on it because Number one, we have to find out two things here. One, if she's using ketamine and she's declaring herself mentally ill, she can't run for president. Come on. That's for sure. Number two, if she's working with somebody who's influencing her to make ketamine accessible to the public, I think that's questionable to have on your campaign. And this guy has very deep international pockets with the ketamine. And the other article we did on the TMS where they hook your child up to the wires to their head and put magnetic electric pulses in it. This is all experimental stuff. And so we need to get it clarified. Did she take ketamine, question mark? Is she being influenced by somebody who wants to push ketamine on children? Parents have a right to know that. It's a good issue either way.
Steve Bannon
Sheila, I might add that Elon and these guys, I mean, the Tech Bros. Are very. They're open about the use of ketamine. It's very experimental and quite dangerous. Sheila, one more time. Where do they go? We got about 30 seconds. Where do people go? Tomorrow in Atlanta, De Warren Posse wants to come down and see your display.
Sheila Matthews
Okay, so 8am to 12 noon in the south wing of the Capitol building. First of the Kind exposition here. And if you. If people want us to come to their state, we're happy to do that. They can go on FultonCountySpeaks.com event section and learn more about it. But we are very much interested in helping get this art building. Art Bill HR 1007 by Todd Jones, House Representative for Art for Children Instead of Drugs.
Steve Bannon
Okay, we'll check in with you tomorrow. Thank you so much, ma'. Am. Great work. Short break. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Two things we've got for you. One, if you get in touch with Philip Patrick and the team, I think now more than ever, find out what central banks have been on a roll of buying gold at record rates. And we hear that maybe a couple, three central banks, maybe even in the Gulf Emirates like Saudi Arabia, have been selling gold to make sure they can generate some cash to pay some bills since they can't monetize their oil like they used to. End of the dollar empire. The eighth free installment is up. Make sure you get that and study it. Seven installments are incorporated first. I can get those all free on the online@birchgold.com, promo code Bannon. Also in print edition, the end of the Dollar Empire with all the graphics, all of it. Most importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team talk to them today. Another free. 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She understood that, hey, the reason she signed her the things were going to continue to go up and she realized she didn't understand it. That's where her son, who had no experience in health care really started to drill down on this to solve her problem. Eight, four, five, War Room. Chapter. Go talk to him today. Also in the next hour. I've asked because of everything that's going on in this war also what's going on in Israel with the Church of the Holy Sepulchre? I've asked Raymond Ibrahim, a Coptic Christian Egyptian sword and scimitar, which is, I think, one of the best. And Victor Davis Hanson wrote the introduction and was his mentor or his thesis advisor when he turned his thesis into about the military history. This is a military history between Islam and the West. And of course he wrote then Defenders of the west, which are the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. Incredibly powerful. He has that now. The Two Swords of Christendom or the Two Swords of Christianity, about the Knights of St. John and of course the Knights Templar. The military. The military orders or the monks who were military orders. Fascinating story about the Crusades and thereafter. And Raymond's going to be on for the whole hour. We're going to go through all of this and maybe even talk about the new Christian state of Jerusalem. How you like. They signed up yet? Nothing to sign up yet. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. So much going on in the six o' Clock, hour. I couldn't. I couldn't be more excited to get Raymond on and talk to him. Mike Lindell, get us this. What's the status of the factory? And to tell a little bit of the backstory, I want to make sure people understand this because sometimes it's lost because the audience doesn't hear it all the time. Of the heroes like yourself that stood in the breach, got to remember, Mike Lindell was not a political guy. He's like so many people out there, and particularly so many people until President Trump came on and we started to really get down to the. Really find out the problems in this country. The 2020 stolen election, Mike, was one that triggered you particularly. We said, hey, look, I can't live in a country and just steal an election. It's once you got engaged in that they really came after you. And people have no earthy idea. And I've had the privilege of getting to know Mike for a couple of years of how they've come out, tried to destroy his company, tried to destroy his charity, which is a Christian charity, to make sure people that are addicted can use the word of God to help them in their addiction and turn their life around. Of course, you got a Muslim attorney general in Minnesota that's after him relentlessly. They've come after him on everything. Irs. It's just insane to destroy Mike Lindell after he put all this money in to really. And this is why Georgia is so important. It hadn't been for Lindell, we wouldn't have been anywhere in any of these cases to Mike. But they don't understand behind the scenes what happens. Somebody bought the factory you guys had specifically to make sure they could throw you out. And this happens so much to people, the tricks, the left, they're Bolsheviks. This is what they do. If you see the no kings over the weekend, it's so vicious. It's so vicious coming after Trump. So, Mike Lindell, tell me the story and what are you doing about it and how can the world.
Mike Lindell
Right when I went all in In January of 21, actually, Steve, your show was one of the few places that gave me a platform and I shouted to the rooftops. And then came Lawfare with all these machine companies and then suing me and my pillow, my employee owned company. But then Arctic Frost took over. That was our own coming after my pillow and the most attacked company in history starting in January of 2022. You guys can look it up. We just turned all our stuff over to the government about two months ago, but they went to our vendors to get us in. And they got us debanked four times. Went to our vendors, went to our merchant server. But yes, Steve, they even went to our building. This wool company bought the Mypillow factory and they gave, they didn't renew our lease. They got to, they kept, you know, one month became two months. And this year it was up about two weeks ago, actually it's up this month. And we basically had two months to get moved. It was, they said it would be impossible, but we did it. And we just, all, all the employees, which, you know, that's what we do. They, we've moved many times, but expanding. But this was the biggest time crunch ever and working through the night, getting up, racking and stuff. We have 128 semis that we filled up with product ready to move this stuff. And they all the product and then the stuff we left in the factory, the war room posse, we gave you guys that promo code war room. You guys helped us all with that to get, get it out of there in time, get it shipped right to you. But today we're actually doing, we're going to extend that with our factory. This is the last day, you guys, with the new factory, we're gonna extend that free shipping through today. And today with the mega sale, this is the last day for the 34.956 piece towel says last day for the 1498 MyPillows. We wanted to give you all one last chance to get that free shipping right to your front door. You guys, we, we owe it to the war room past. You guys were absolutely amazing. Amazing. To help us at this time of need, go to mypillow.com war room. And there you're going to see if you check out the factory sale. Some of that 80% off product is still there. You guys do all your shopping. You got made in America socks and you got all this clothing line that we had. These were originally set for the box stores. Everybody, they canceled us. So their loss is your game. Promo code, War room. You call 800-873-1062. That's 800-873-1062. And my employees appreciate everything you do, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. We'll see you tomorrow morning. Raymond Ibrahim, Defenders of the west, next in the war room.
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This episode of The War Room with Steve Bannon (Real America’s Voice, iHeartPodcasts) focuses on the ongoing war involving Iran, U.S. military strategy, energy markets, U.S. domestic politics (especially Senate infighting and immigration), and cultural/mental health issues. Bannon, along with guests like Eric Bolling, Mike Davis, Sheila Matthews, and others, provides analysis on global economics, oil prices, diplomatic negotiations, congressional gridlock, and controversies surrounding public figures. The episode’s tone is urgent, combative, and opinionated—challenging mainstream narratives and calling for staunch conservatism and confrontation, both abroad and domestically.
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The effects of Middle East tensions on oil prices, specifically the U.S.-led operations in Iran and ongoing negotiations, are discussed with Eric Bolling (00:00–04:20).
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Notable Quote:
"For the first time... those positive statements from Trump didn't lead to a price drop. The market doesn’t believe anything until it sees it now."
— Eric Bolling (01:38)
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News coverage and internal analysis of Trump's handling of Iran: combining diplomatic overtures (“10-day pause”, offers to negotiate), threats of escalation, and ambiguity as a form of strategy.
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"If the Iranians reject this golden opportunity, the greatest military in the history of the world continues to stand by... [Iran] continues to pay a grave price."
— Caroline Levitt (05:09)
"One way or another, Iran will no longer have the credible ability to threaten the United States or our allies..."
— Caroline Levitt (05:24)
"Nobody can be 100% sure what Donald Trump might do next. That's... an advantage, but it means even he doesn't seem to know what he's going to do."
— Sheila Matthews (10:39)
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Who pays for the war? Bannon presses that Arab states (who benefited from spiking oil prices) should bankroll operations, referencing the Gulf War model.
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"The value of their oil has over doubled... it’s time to get the checkbooks out and stroke the checks. I don’t know why we would go to Capitol Hill, ask for $200 billion until we go around and pass the hat."
— Steve Bannon (12:15)
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Intense criticism of the Senate, especially Republicans, for failing to support border security, funding DHS workers, and backing Trump’s legislative agenda.
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"These Senate Republicans are cowards. They need to get their asses back to work and get out of Disneyland."
— Mike Davis (22:00)
"Nice guys finish last. You need to get these Senate Republicans back in the Senate and grind these Senate Democrats to a halt."
— Mike Davis (21:50)
"I want to remind these Senate Republicans... you would not have a Senate majority but for Donald J. Trump and his landslide victory. You guys are pissing away the majority. Get your asses back to work."
— Mike Davis (24:40)
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Discussion of Trump’s legal challenge to birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment—set for oral argument at the Supreme Court.
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"If American Indians are not subject to the jurisdiction... how the hell would illegal aliens be?"
— Mike Davis (29:33)
"There is clearly no birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. For Chinese birth tourists, for example, should not have birthright citizenship."
— Mike Davis (31:17)
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Sheila Matthews describes an educational exhibit in Atlanta about alternative approaches to childhood ADHD and mental health, attacking the practice of medicating children. Later, she addresses a developing story about Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (AOC) campaign spending and alleged ketamine usage.
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Notable Quotes:
"This disease model of ADHD isn't real. It's a checklist. It's subjective where the gifted are the ones like Beethoven and all these wonderful people in history."
— Sheila Matthews (35:34)
"If she's using ketamine and declaring herself mentally ill, she can't run for president, come on."
— Sheila Matthews (38:17)
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Mike Lindell recounts business hardships seemingly tied to his political activism post-2020 election, including losing his factory lease and aggressive attempts to bankrupt MyPillow.
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Notable Quotes:
"They debanked us four times... they even went to our building. This wool company bought the MyPillow factory and... didn’t renew our lease."
— Mike Lindell (46:12)
Trump’s talking points no longer move the oil market:
[01:38] — “...the oil market didn't retreat. It stayed...It doesn't believe anything until it sees it now.”
Trump’s ambiguous, dual-track Iran strategy:
[06:35] — “On the one hand, he's trying to find the fastest off ramp...on the other, arguing to escalate by taking the oil…”
Call for Arab states to pay for the war:
[12:15] — “It’s time to get the checkbooks out and stroke the checks…”
GOP senators accused of cowardice, “get your asses back to work”:
[24:40] — “You guys are pissing away the majority. Get your asses back to work.”
Birthright citizenship legal argument:
[29:33] — “If American Indians are not subject to the jurisdiction... how the hell would illegal aliens be?”
ADHD critique & child mental health advocacy:
[35:34] — “This disease model of ADHD isn't real. It's a checklist...the gifted are the ones like Beethoven...”
AOC ketamine controversy implications for candidacy:
[38:17] — “If she's using ketamine and declaring herself mentally ill, she can't run for president, come on.”
Mike Lindell details financial retaliation:
[46:12] — “They debanked us four times...this wool company bought the MyPillow factory and... didn’t renew our lease...”
Focused, high-intensity commentary:
The episode jumps quickly between global geopolitics, financial/energy markets, congressional machinations, legal battles, cultural policies, and personal attacks on political enemies.
Speakers maintain a confrontational, candid tone, leveraging humor, nostalgia, and “insider” references (e.g., Caddyshack, college basketball, barroom brawl analogies).
This episode is packed with rapid-fire political, economic, and cultural analysis—most of it critical of the current state of government, international affairs, and media. The War Room portrays itself as the voice of the grassroots and “wartime” conservatives, blasting establishment politics and calling out what it sees as cowardice, corruption, and double standards, both in foreign policy and domestic issues like immigration, child health, and business.
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